Large Mafia Game Mafia X [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 2

GeneralHankerchief

06-18-2011, 20:46

Three days into the voting, and the observant... er... observers noticed that cases were finally starting to get made. Poor shadows of cases, yes, but cases nonetheless. This might have been the beginning of something.

The villagers also seemed to be coalescing their votes, as there was far less of the >50% of the entire population receiving votes this time, as was the case in days past. Instead, their cases seemed to focus on three people: Joe, Vincent, and Claudia. The cases were odd things: Joe for, er, well, Vincent voted for him... Vincent for, uh, his face seemed more like the type to kill people using various radio-controlled devices... and Claudia because she was allegedly sending in her votes via text message, even though everyone saw she was actually present on the scene. Nonetheless, these were still cases, and they actually had mass backing behind it. Progress.

After Chief of Police JuJuBee prodded some of those who were napping with a large stick, the cases continued to mount. Vincent "caught up" to Joe, Claudia received a string of votes that briefly tied her with the other two, somebody broke the deadlock for Joe, a vote for Vincent tied it up again, and then, finally, Joe pulled away for good. Joe, cursing and spitting, shook his head as he waited for the Chief of Police to do with him as he pleased.

"Come on, Joe, over here now," JuJu said, the usual amiable expression on his face, as if nothing bad had happened over the past three days. "That's right, just step on up to the execution platform, you can do it, it'll be okay..." His voice kept on going as Joe made his way to the execution platform, but it all amounted to the same thing. Joe tried to block it out all out of his head, instead focused on dying a dignified death. He certainly wouldn't beg for his life, maybe not even scream, instead go out in a stony silence, staring daggers at -

*SPROING* "WAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!"

As Joe, also known as Chaotix, mounted the execution platform, his putting pressure on a key area triggered a reaction that had enough PSI behind it to send Joe flying hundreds if not thousands of feet in the air, eventually landing him clear to three towns over. JuJu simply chuckled, and after a minute the entire town got a good laugh out of it. After all, nothing mitigated bad circumstances like good old-fashioned slapstick comedy and booby traps.

Day 3 tally:

Joe: 7 (Vincent, Johnny, Bertha, Frank, Mickey, Ralph, Luciano) :skull:
Vincent: 5 (Sonny, Joe, Salvatore, Richie, Anne)
Claudia: 4 (Bruno, Bugsy, Nick, Big George)
Bugsy: 2 (Claudia, Fingers)
Connie: 2 (Luigi, Bobby)
Bobby: 2 (Connie, Paulie)
Ralph: 1 (Giorgio)
Sonny: 1 (Fat Tony)
Fat Tony: 1 (Angelo)

Didn't vote: 3 (Emilio, Fredo, Pete)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (27)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Big George
Bobby
Bruno
Bugsy
Claudia
Connie
Emilio
Fat Tony
Fingers
Frank
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Mickey
Nick
Paulie
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Salvatore
Sonny
Vincent

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Carlo (Death is yonder)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)

Player list:
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Night 4! Orders are due in 24 hours. I'll make a ruling on the anonymous accounts and WoG criteria at the start of the next day phase, due to the popular results of the poll.

[MAFIA] Johnny

06-18-2011, 22:38

After reading over the rules, I didn't notice any mention of whether or not the affiliation of the lynch victim was specified after their death. Does this mean that we will never know if we killed Mafia or Townie?

GeneralHankerchief

06-19-2011, 00:58

Johnny;2053330526']After reading over the rules, I didn't notice any mention of whether or not the affiliation of the lynch victim was specified after their death. Does this mean that we will never know if we killed Mafia or Townie?

Correct, you're in the dark until the end.

[MAFIA] Richie

06-19-2011, 14:54

Few players seems to have a female name.
Are they female players?

GeneralHankerchief

06-19-2011, 19:43

Richie;2053330836']Few players seems to have a female name.
Are they female players?

There is no correlation between the anonymous accounts being male/female and the players themselves being that same gender. :yes:

Also, kills will be a bit late as I've got Father's Day things to do in a little bit.

GeneralHankerchief

06-19-2011, 23:29

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. The few early risers left in the village noticed a curious absence of the usual birdsong. This was treated as a mixed blessing, as some viewed the birds as more annoying than anything else, but others enjoyed the pleasant morning melodies of the musical avians. However, despite each individual villager's feelings about the feathered sopranos, all of them noticed that the birds were utterly gone.

All except one.

Fingers had been observing the cloud of birds gathered over him for some time, noting with growing fear that it was almost something out of a Hitchcock movie. He had seen enough of these movies in what he hoped wasn't his rapidly-diminishing time on earth. He knew how these things ended. Since Fingers didn't possess a flak gun of any sort (clearly, something that had to be remedied) or own a falcon or five to put the fear of God in these birds, he decided to do the next best thing and run screaming for his life.

"WAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHGARBL!!!!" Fingers started screaming, throwing his arms up in the air and running around every which way. Strangely enough, the birds only continued to observe this, continuing to increase in numbers and circle overhead. They didn't even start coooing in a pattern or anything, which only served to increase Fingers's terror. Surely, something would have to happen soon. The suspense was killing him.

For his part, Fingers realized that running around every which way would do him no good, as he needed to have a destination in mind. So, Fingers altered his direction, going from "every which way" to "straight", figuring that was good enough to start and he'd get an ultimate destination in mind later. He made it about 50 yards, the birds still only observing overhead, when he placed his foot down on an odd-feeling surface. Fingers stopped dead, looking down.

"Oh -"

*SPROING!!!*

Fingers found himself flying through the air, almost going to the height where he'd reach the birds. "Oh great," he reasoned, still flying through the air, "They'll pick me off in midair. By the time my corpse reaches the ground there'll be nothing left of me." But the birds still only observed, viewing the entire scene with something that - if this was even possible - resembled amusement. Fingers finally crashed through a window - the window to the Chief of Police's office, as a matter of fact, which would provide a nasty surprise when he got in the office for the day.

As Fingers lay inside JuJuBee's office, bleeding out, he noticed a bird sitting on the edge of the broken windowsill. The bird dropped a note off its leg, regarded Fingers for a second, and then flew away. Upon further inspection, the note read as follows:

"So you don't have to waste time gathering up the bodies today."

The mafioso once again put away his radio-controlled device and walked away, chuckling.

Across town, Big George had learned better than to go outside. He was an intelligent person who followed trends, you see, and Big George had noticed one trend of the great majority of kills happening outside of the victim's home. Therefore, Big George reasoned, if the trends held, then he would be far safer in his own home. Therefore, Big George stayed inside, eating a leisurely breakfast and congratulating himself on his superior intelligence.

"Whatcha eating?" came a voice from behind Big George. Big George jumped.

"Uh, cashews and milk," Big George mumbled, his mouth full of what he had just described.

"Didn't your mother ever tell you it's not polite to talk with your mouth full?" The mafioso slapped Big George hard, so hard that the cashews and milk he was eating spilled out of his mouth.

"OW!" Big George cried, rubbing his cheek in pain. "That really hurt, man!"

"I'm sorry," said the mafioso, in a tone of voice that suggested he plainly wasn't. "Do you want me to stop slapping you?" George nodded, whimpering. "Then you need to stop eating those ridiculous cashews and milk and start eating THESE instead!" He shoved a gigantic box of organic cereal in Big George's face, easily the largest box of cereal George had ever seen.

"But -" George started to say, motioning over to his cashews and milk.

"Either stop with the cashews and milk or get slapped again," the mafioso said. George started eating the organic cereal. The mafioso watched as George finished the bowl, wiping his lips with a napkin, as if finished eating for the morning. "Wait a minute," he said, "Who says you're done eating? Surely eating only one bowl of my cereal is impolite, is it not? You want to have seconds." Big George groaned and reluctantly poured himself another new bowl of the mafioso's organic cereal.

And so it went like this for a long period of time. Big George would finish another bowl of organic cereal, ask the mafioso if he was finished, and the mafioso would reply that Big George needed to keep eating or otherwise he would get another slap. The gigantic box of Organic-O's, meanwhile, despite all of Big George's withdrawals, still looked as if nobody had made a dent in it. With each bite taken, George looked weaker and weaker, but he still kept pressing on, the threat of another hard slap enough to keep him going.

Thirty-four excruciating bowls of cereal later, Big George was done. He simply could not have one more bite of cereal. He was almost past the point of comprehensive speaking, that was how stuffed he was. But the mafioso made his usual threat, and George poured himself yet another bowl, took one bite, and then suddenly crumpled out of his chair onto the floor, clutching his stomach and groaning.

"Ah good," the mafioso said, "it's about time. It certainly took you long enough, but now your body has become oversaturated with Organic-O's and now your stomach is in the process of rupturing. Enjoy your last few hours on earth."

Big George softly moaned.

"Oh, and by the way," the mafioso said, drawing a book from his pocket, "Here. Something to pass the time for your last hours. This has nothing to do with the cereal or your stomach, but it does relate to that foolish assumption you made that just because most of the kills so far have been made outside, that trend would continue. Happy reading!"

Big George glanced over at the title. It read "An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding", by one David Hume.

Later that day, Chief of Police JuJuBee gathered everyone into the Frontroom square in order to make an announcement.

"Okay everyone," JuJu said, with a much grimmer expression on his face than usual, "We have two more deaths today, one of whom was delivered right into my office! This cannot stand, folks! They might have stained one of my Judy Garland pictures with blood! Unacceptable! Anyway, your two victims today are Fingers, also known as Seon, and Big George, who you know as ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88. For the sake of not having to read long philosophy tracts and my Judy Garland pictures, let's get this one right!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (25)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Bugsy
Claudia
Connie
Emilio
Fat Tony
Frank
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Mickey
Nick
Paulie
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Salvatore
Sonny
Vincent

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)

Player list:
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Day 4! Voting will last for 24 hours.

Chaotix

06-20-2011, 00:36

:laugh4:

I literally burst out laughing when I read the cashews and milk line. Awesome write-up, GH!

[MAFIA] Johnny

06-20-2011, 00:39

So far we have two Mafiosi on the loose. Each killer has a distinctive modus operandi. Mafiosi number one enjoys slaying his victims with remote controlled devices, and Mafiosi number two murders by poison. Although we may never be able to tell if one of those we have executed is Mafia directly, we should be able to indirectly infer this based upon the MO of the killings the following night.

Yesterday our dearly departed friend Big George voted for Claudia, and Fingers (the beloved creeper?) voted for Bugsy. It could be a coincidence, but it is likely that they were murdered because they voted for the Mafia. As it happens, Claudia voted for Bugsy, making her unlikely as scum. Therefore, Bugsy appears to be the most likely choice.

Vote: Bugsy

[MAFIA] Richie

06-20-2011, 01:29

Johnny;2053331019']So far we have two Mafiosi on the loose. Each killer has a distinctive modus operandi. Mafiosi number one enjoys slaying his victims with remote controlled devices, and Mafiosi number two murders by poison. Although we may never be able to tell if one of those we have executed is Mafia directly, we should be able to indirectly infer this based upon the MO of the killings the following night.

Yesterday our dearly departed friend Big George voted for Claudia, and Fingers (the beloved creeper?) voted for Bugsy. It could be a coincidence, but it is likely that they were murdered because they voted for the Mafia. As it happens, Claudia voted for Bugsy, making her unlikely as scum. Therefore, Bugsy appears to be the most likely choice.

Vote: Bugsy

Normally thats not likely. But with the anonymous account business, mafia can make the boldest move and still get away with it.
Vote: Bugsy

For the lack of better candidate.

[MAFIA] Paulie

06-20-2011, 03:01

vote: Anne, for killing Christopher/JHT!

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 03:16

Fat Tony;2053330390']Ah, but you voted for him for just talking, ....

Lemme explain this one more time. It really ain't that complicated.

The late Rocco, also known as "Hatchet-Face" says somethin dumb, gets himself a half dozen or so votes to go take a long walk off a short pier, dance the hemp fandango, that sorta thing. Which is :daisy: stupid, but it's day two of a vanilla :daisy: mafia game, you gotta expect these things.

Now along come little Vincent, also known as Scumbag, also known as You-Shoulda-Been-Dead-Two-Days-Ago-Goomba. Does he vote for Rocco? Nah, that's too scummy for dear Vinny. Does he try to do in someone else, with like a real reason and everythin? Fuhgeddabout it, that's too much like work or somethin and anyway he's a scumbag, he don't care who gets the chop long as it ain't him. So you get to the option any self-respectin mafioso shoulda taken, which is to just vote: Random-o an call it a day. But our Vinny, he just a little too fulla himself for that. He gotta tell us we're doin it wrong. He gotta tell us how to do it right. Because he's one of us an he cares. ('Scuse me while I wipe away a tear.) 'Cept he ain't never voted Rocco, he ain't needin to change his mind. So what's this "we" :daisy:?

Rocco is an ugly brute, but let's not let the bandwagon pick up too much speed just yet, in case we change our minds. I'll vote:Furio, rage isn't what we need most right now.

That there, gals and boys, is a mafioso.

vote: Vincent

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 03:19

(The quote beginning "Rocco ..." is from Vincent (post 197), not Fat Tony.)

[MAFIA] Mickey

06-20-2011, 03:36

Richie;2053331039']Normally thats not likely. But with the anonymous account business, mafia can make the boldest move and still get away with it.
Vote: Bugsy

For the lack of better candidate.

How do the anonymous accounts let mafia make bolder moves and get away with it?

[MAFIA] Salvatore

06-20-2011, 05:06

Alrighty! I've been following trends from the start. And even to my unprincipled mind, this could be more then a bit scummy, 'xcept of course, that everybody else has been doing pretty much the same. But I've decided to streamline my voting record to make more sense, hence, I'll vote: [MAFIA] Vincent again and be consistent with myself. My reason remains the same.

For the record, I don't understand Sonny's argument and thus am little influenced by it.

Now I'll go hide in some unspecified hotel room with locked door and not a single electronic and/or radio device for around even though that could potentially be a death warrant...

[MAFIA] Anne

06-20-2011, 07:14

Vote: Frank

Frankly, you're mafia.

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-20-2011, 08:45

I like Johnny's reasoning.
We are taking you down scum - vote: Bugsy

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-20-2011, 10:32

Alright, I agree with Sonny here.

vote: Vincent

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-20-2011, 11:43

vote: Connie

[MAFIA] Bertha

06-20-2011, 12:51

Vote Connie
Third on the Bandwagon a mafia is.

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-20-2011, 13:55

Bertha;2053331210']Vote Connie
Third on the Bandwagon a mafia is.
Is that you Sigurd?

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 16:47

I know I'm pointing right back at my accusers here, but Richie and Johnny should really pick up their reasoning. They have both just inquired (publically) about some aspect of the rules that should be obvious, trying to play the fool. Then, they go on to suggest that because Claudia voted for me (as she's also doing now, I see - interesting!), she's unlikely to be my scum partner.

Well that last bit seems true, since I ain't Mafia. Claudia, however, I have my doubts about.

Now, looking at a tally (spoilered below), I can see that I'm tied with Vincent at three votes. Nobody's currently voting Claudia, Richie or Johnny, which would be my picks, so I'm going to hope this trend can be turned around if I Vote:Claudia. But if it remains tied at the end of the day, I'm going to save my own hide. Just saying.
Johnny: Bugsy
Richie: Bugsy
Paulie: Anne
Sonny: Vincent
Salvatore: Vincent
Anne: Frank
Claudia: Bugsy
Angelo: Vincent
Bobby: Connie
Bertha: Connie

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

06-20-2011, 16:55

:laugh4:

I literally burst out laughing when I read the cashews and milk line. Awesome write-up, GH!

Brought a smile to my face, hoping he was going to do this :laugh:! :balloon2:

GH will forever have my respect!!:balloon2::balloon2:

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-20-2011, 16:56

Is that so?

What do you say to this then?

unvote: Vincent, vote: Bugsy

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 17:03

Angelo;2053331289']What do you say to this then?

"Unnecessary bandwagoning, though not inherently scummy, should be avoided."

I am half expecting that my post will provoke that kind of a reaction, but I don't want to just shrug off accusations silently. That's scummy. I prefer to try and reason with people, even if it sometimes seems impossible :laugh4:. Nevertheless, if you want me to try and elaborate on the argument about Johnny and Richie above, please say so and I will :beam:

Also, there are 14 nonvoters with roughly 5 hours to go. Shameful.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 17:09

:help:

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 17:10

(OK, posting worked. This account is behaving very strangely right now.)

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 17:11

Angelo;2053331289']Is that so?

What do you say to this then?

unvote: Vincent, vote: Bugsy

I dunno about Bugsy, Angelo, but yours truly ain't too amused.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 17:14

Johnny;2053331019']So far we have two Mafiosi on the loose. Each killer has a distinctive modus operandi. Mafiosi number one enjoys slaying his victims with remote controlled devices, and Mafiosi number two murders by poison. Although we may never be able to tell if one of those we have executed is Mafia directly, we should be able to indirectly infer this based upon the MO of the killings the following night.

That ain't true. Either you new here, or you pretendin to be.

Yesterday our dearly departed friend Big George voted for Claudia, and Fingers (the beloved creeper?) voted for Bugsy. It could be a coincidence, but it is likely that they were murdered because they voted for the Mafia. As it happens, Claudia voted for Bugsy, making her unlikely as scum. Therefore, Bugsy appears to be the most likely choice.

Vote: Bugsy

Try explainin that underlined bit again.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 17:42

The part you underlined was what caught me as well; It goes by the assumption that "Claudia and Bugsy are mafioso", using it to prove "Claudia is not mafia". That is self-contradiction, logically speaking. It confused me more than anything else. I'd say Johnny is either cooking up a bogus case, or needs to elaborate and explain what he actually meant by it; the way it stands now, it doesn't make sense (to me at least). I'm not saying Johnny's bad (or incomplete) reasoning means he's scum, that's unlikely, but the people who decide to trust in such thin reasoning seem to be as people looking for an easy bandwawgon to jump onto.

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-20-2011, 17:45

Bugsy;2053331291']
"Unnecessary bandwagoning, though not inherently scummy, should be avoided."

I am half expecting that my post will provoke that kind of a reaction, but I don't want to just shrug off accusations silently. That's scummy. I prefer to try and reason with people, even if it sometimes seems impossible :laugh4:. Nevertheless, if you want me to try and elaborate on the argument about Johnny and Richie above, please say so and I will :beam:

Not at all unncecessary, just applying some pressure and yes, please elaborate :yes:

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 18:38

Angelo;2053331316']Not at all unncecessary, just applying some pressure and yes, please elaborate :yes:

Okay... The way I read Johnny's accusation of me (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?135978-Mafia-X-In-play&p=2053331019&viewfull=1#post2053331019), he first remarks that each of the two killers has his own modus operandi, or way of killing, and describes those. That, I can agree with. From this, he infers that a change in kill methods means that one of the mafia have been caught. I disagree with this; It might be that it's true, but it should not be taken for given. The mafia could (as far as we know) change one of the kill methods without having been reduced. They might even do this to plant distrust against one of us, post-mortem. That's what I'd do.

In the second paragraph, he notes the following voting pattern from the previous day:
Big George (now dead) votes for Claudia
Fingers (now dead) votes for Bugsy/Me
He postulates that the choice of killings have to do with the votes that Big George and Fingers cast on that day. This strikes me as improbable. Ignoring for a moment the obvious "I know because I am not mafia", I would like to say that even if the mafia should choose to leave leads like that (they almost have to, sooner or later), it would be ignorant to pick two people who had voted for you just now and not, say, a couple of phases ago. So that part of the theory is not too hot, in my book.
What rocks my boat, though, is when he goes on (under the assumption that his theory has at least some merit) to say that, due to Claudia's vote on me, it is unlikely that she is scum, because she would not vote for her partner. That is how I read his post. As you can see, that is oxymoronic; Claudia would only be less likely to vote for me were we both mafia, and then the argument "so Claudia is more innocent" is wrong.

Phew, what a wall of text.

That's Johnny's post. He might be misguided, or need to explain himself, or he might be scum, but I don't know how likely that is. What strikes me as odd is that Richie joins in (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?135978-Mafia-X-In-play&p=2053331039&viewfull=1#post2053331039) on the vote, even touching upon the oxymoronic part of the argument; "That's not likely" is the best part of this post. :daisy: right it's not likely, it's a logical impossibility. And then he goes on to vote me for the lack of a better candidate. It might, again, be honest town wanting to build a (weak) case and put pressure, but it could also be an easy way to dish a "secure" vote out.

Claudia's vote (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?135978-Mafia-X-In-play&p=2053331118&viewfull=1#post2053331118) is the worst, though. She's third on a bandwagon, and the only thing she says is that Johnny is making sense when he says that she's a mafia. But apparently that doesn't hurt the case on me in her eyes.

I want those three to speak up and defend their votes, soon. Preferably with more than the feeble pressure currently on them. So, apply that pressure, please.

[MAFIA] Vincent

06-20-2011, 18:42

Bugsy is making useful contribution to the game by analysis, we're running low on time, so despite this putting me third on a bandwagon, I will vote:Connie. Additionally, I'd appreciate any and all analysis the murdered care to give, now and for the rest of the game, since they're the only confirmed innocents.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 18:46

Vincent;2053331350']I'd appreciate any and all analysis the murdered care to give, now and for the rest of the game, since they're the only confirmed innocents.

Seconded.

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-20-2011, 18:49

Alright, satisfies me for now, so I'll unvote: Bugsy, vote: Claudia

To actually pressure her we need another one thought so... Vincent?

Or if not:

Bertha;2053331210']Vote Connie
Third on the Bandwagon a mafia is.

I think you meant Claudia. Since Claudia was the third on a bandwagon.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-20-2011, 18:57

You guys should forget that whole "third on the wagon" nonsense and vote for Frank.

:gbow:

[MAFIA] Nick

06-20-2011, 19:36

I was going to say Johnny's reasoning doesn't really make sense too. The votes yesterday put the leading candidate over the top when a wagon on Claudia was catching up. Obviously they can't all be Mafia, there's not that many of them, but it seems like this could have been a close call.

Vote: Claudia

Happy to pressure again today.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-20-2011, 19:41

No, Funny-smelling Frank! Funky Franky garbage face! I can't stand this any longer. Somebody please pay attention to me! Hello, pay attention to me! Look at me! I'm Anne, I'm Anne! Look at me, look at me, look at me!

:tongueg:

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 19:45

Anne;2053331398']No, Funny-smelling Frank! Funky Franky garbage face! I can't stand this any longer. Somebody please pay attention to me! Hello, pay attention to me! Look at me! I'm Anne, I'm Anne! Look at me, look at me, look at me!

:tongueg:

Find an avatar that convinces us that you're a girl and you can have all the attention you want :curtain:

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 20:03

I still want Vinny deader'n disco, you hearin me Bugsy?

unvote, vote: Claudia

[MAFIA] Anne

06-20-2011, 20:06

Bugsy;2053331400']Find an avatar that convinces us that you're a girl and you can have all the attention you want :curtain:

Bugsy wouldn't know a woman if one came up and snatched his gun.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 20:16

Bugsy's got a point there, doll. You look like the south end of a north-bound mule.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-20-2011, 20:18

Sonny;2053331439']Bugsy's got a point there, doll. You look like the south end of a north-bound mule.

You look far too prim and proper to be a real man, Sonny. I think you're a lady in disguise. :evilgrin:

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 20:28

My beautiful Maria, God rest her lovin soul, would gut you like a fish for that insinneration.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-20-2011, 20:40

Sonny;2053331452']My beautiful Maria, God rest her lovin soul, would gut you like a fish for that insinneration.

You remind me of a babe I used to know at the all-girls boarding school. Slender hips, immaculately manicured little hands, short-trimmed hair style, and a strong hint of something fishy on her breath.

Wait.... it IS you. Sandy!? After all these years, you're still the same old girl in drag. Didn't they tell you, sweetie? It's not the clothes that make the man. I could spot your wiggly little butt with two blind eyes and half a gallon of gin in me.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 20:49

Anne;2053331456']at the all-girls boarding school

They sent you there when you won't stop playin doctor with the little boys in Sunday School. Poor things, scarred for life, ev'ry one of em now wearin high heels an falsies in Times Square.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 20:49

This place is finally getting some atmosphere!

Now did someone mention "gin"?

[MAFIA] Anne

06-20-2011, 20:59

Sonny;2053331464']They sent you there when you won't stop playin doctor with the little boys in Sunday School. Poor things, scarred for life, ev'ry one of em now wearin high heels an falsies in Times Square.

What can I say? I have a ravenous appetite for all things girly. Incidentally, that's how I could spot you coming a mile away. I don't blame Bugsy for not being able to tell that I'm a girl, as I'm more of a man than he is. At the boarding school, they called me "Mann". Give me five minutes with Bugsy and I'll have him wearing my high heels too.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-20-2011, 21:24

Anne;2053331473']What can I say? I have a ravenous appetite for all things girly. Incidentally, that's how I could spot you coming a mile away. I don't blame Bugsy for not being able to tell that I'm a girl, as I'm more of a man than he is. At the boarding school, they called me "Mann". Give me five minutes with Bugsy and I'll have him wearing my high heels too.

My dressing habits are not privy to discussion here!

Tally:
Johnny: Bugsy
Richie: Bugsy
Paulie: Anne
Sonny: Claudia
Salvatore: Vincent
Anne: Frank
Claudia: Bugsy
Angelo: Claudia
Bobby: Connie
Bertha: Connie
Bugsy: Claudia
Vincent: Connie
Nick: Claudia

I count four votes on Claudia, three on me and Connie each. The phase should end in roughly 25 minutes.

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-20-2011, 21:27

Way too many that didn't vote for my taste...

[MAFIA] Mickey

06-20-2011, 21:36

Vote:Richie

Johnny's reason for voting is bad. Really bad in fact. Richie never responded to my question though. He voted on someone else's bad case and that's worse than actually making a bad case.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-20-2011, 21:43

Mickey;2053331489']He voted on someone else's bad case and that's worse than actually making a bad case.

:laugh4:

GeneralHankerchief

06-20-2011, 21:44

Okay, I know I sound like a broken record, but the round is going to end an hour late or so. I'm behind on RL errands today.

[MAFIA] Emilio

06-20-2011, 22:06

vote:connie.I like tied up women.

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-20-2011, 22:06

In my opinion, Claudia is one of the worse lynch around because Christopher died the night after she voted for him, and last night Big George died after voting Claudia. I think the mafia wouldn't be so bold as to attract attention to one of their own this way. So far they probably were content to kill people who didn't vote for them, and who they didn't vote for.

unvote; vote :Bugsy

Making it a tie, I believe. You should reconsider Claudia based on my arguments.

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-20-2011, 22:08

Oh, I even prefer to lynch Connie, you know.

unvote; vote: Connie

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-20-2011, 22:10

So what's the case on Connie?

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-20-2011, 22:24

Angelo;2053331513']So what's the case on Connie?
I think none was made, and it's hard to come up with a case given the few posts and no death reveal, so I'm working with "reasons to think someone is Town" here. Connie is hardly trying to find the bad guys and she OMGUSed me yesterday. It's not a case, but she's the best lynch between the three current candidates (Connie, Bugsy, Claudia). In my opinion. :yes:

GeneralHankerchief

06-20-2011, 23:28

Voting closed.

Stand by for the execution.

GeneralHankerchief

06-20-2011, 23:46

Tie vote between Connie and Claudia, you guys know the drill.

In the interests of halting the deadline creep, I'm stopping voting at 18:00 US Eastern tomorrow, which is slightly over 23 hours from now.

Day 4 tally:
Connie: 4 (Bobby, Bertha, Vincent, Emilio)
Claudia: 4 (Bugsy, Angelo, Nick, Sonny)
Bugsy: 3 (Johnny, Richie, Claudia)
Anne: 1 (Paulie)
Vincent: 1 (Salvatore)
Frank: 1 (Anne)
Richie: 1 (Mickey)

Didn't vote: 10 (Bruno, Connie, Fat Tony, Frank, Fredo, Giorgio, Luciano, Luigi, Pete, Ralph)

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-20-2011, 23:53

vote: Connie

[MAFIA] Connie

06-21-2011, 00:08

Bertha;2053331210']Vote Connie
Third on the Bandwagon a mafia is.

Okay now this is scummy. I never voted third on a bandwagon. whether I am lynched or not I think your mafia scum is right here folks.

Also bobby is a bit scummy. Yeah he may say it was an omgused but his initial reasons for voting for me were rather deliberate at such an early stage in a game where people don't know much about each other.

obviousl,

vote: claudia

Your cases are nil on both of us but there are people acting much more scummy not to mention inactives we could all be better off voting.

[MAFIA] Connie

06-21-2011, 00:09

Also bobby has now voted for me two phases in a row which seems all too serious and not lighthearted in the slightest.

[MAFIA] Connie

06-21-2011, 00:11

Bobby;2053331521']I think none was made, and it's hard to come up with a case given the few posts and no death reveal, so I'm working with "reasons to think someone is Town" here. Connie is hardly trying to find the bad guys and she OMGUSed me yesterday. It's not a case, but she's the best lynch between the three current candidates (Connie, Bugsy, Claudia). In my opinion. :yes:

I am barely trying to find the scum? Pray tell good sir what efforts you have made besides jumping on a bandwagon of me with a fabricated claim which is a bigger scum tell this early in the game than a nonsensical silly vote. And then starting another bandwagon with no reasoning whatsoever?

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-21-2011, 00:42

Connie;2053331574']I am barely trying to find the scum? Pray tell good sir what efforts you have made besides jumping on a bandwagon of me with a fabricated claim which is a bigger scum tell this early in the game than a nonsensical silly vote. And then starting another bandwagon with no reasoning whatsoever?
It's been said many times that one can find someone else scummy, for reasons that he himself could be guilty of. I'm certainly not going to accuse myself since I know my personal reasons for not having looked for scum before today, but I don't know yours. I'm looking for scum and you gave me no reason to believe you're a good guy.

Furthermore, interesting reaction you have there. That's two times you latched back at me after I voted for you, it's typically scummy to OMGUS or try to turn the table on your accuser, pointing why he's scummy when in fact what you don't like is his vote on you. Unfortunately I cannot judge if this is normal behavior for you, the game being anonymous, so I can only encourage my fellow Town teammates to follow my vote here.

[MAFIA] Paulie

06-21-2011, 00:44

Ties are for yuppies.
vote: Claudia

[MAFIA] Fat Tony

06-21-2011, 02:12

Vote: Claudia

Seeing as there's some sort of a case against her and she was third on a bandwagon.

[MAFIA] Ralph

06-21-2011, 02:33

These 24 hour phases are killing me.

I had another suspect in mind but town inactivity is horrible.

Vote:Connie

[MAFIA] Bertha

06-21-2011, 02:57

Connie;2053331572']Okay now this is scummy. I never voted third on a bandwagon. whether I am lynched or not I think your mafia scum is right here folks.

Also bobby is a bit scummy. Yeah he may say it was an omgused but his initial reasons for voting for me were rather deliberate at such an early stage in a game where people don't know much about each other.

obviousl,

vote: claudia

Your cases are nil on both of us but there are people acting much more scummy not to mention inactives we could all be better off voting.

Sorry meant to vote for Claudia I must of got confused between the two C's

Vote Claudia

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-21-2011, 08:26

Vote Claudia. I dislike Johnny's case on Connie almost more than the one on me.

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-21-2011, 09:55

This is ridiculous.
I voted Bugys first of all because he was trying to pressure the host into getting rid of players. He specifically asked for 11 WoGs. Using my logic, that would just help the mafia getting rid of people to kill and provide fewer rounds to be caught.

You might think that getting rid of players is helpful narrowing down mafia candidates. But let’s not kid ourselves; we don’t want to indulge the Mafiosi the service of a shorter game by lessening the kill pool. Time is a resource we need. Time is not what Mafiosi wants; they want dead townies, as fast as possible.

You have forced my hand:
Vote: Connie

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-21-2011, 10:01

Well, well. The 2 lasses I talked about last round ended up in the forefront this time. Talk about a coincidence~:smoking:
Now who's made a greater offense?

Claudia, who posted via a Mobile Device but denies it (explanation?):stare:
or Connie, who committed the most despicable act of triple-posting:whip:

Explanations, NOW!!!

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-21-2011, 10:01

vote: Claudia

the case on Connie is non-existent but still, Connie, advising the town to lynch inactives? Way to go, wasting lynches, the mafia is most probably not inactive

Visor

06-21-2011, 10:03

You voted for Claudia though?

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-21-2011, 10:07

Yes, because:

the case on Connie is non-existent

After that I was merely pointing out to Connie that her proposed strategy of lynching inactive players is nonsense

Visor

06-21-2011, 10:09

Please, someone sum up the cases in point form and I'll give an opinion.

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-21-2011, 10:20

Luigi;2053331745']Well, well. The 2 lasses I talked about last round ended up in the forefront this time. Talk about a coincidence~:smoking:
Now who's made a greater offense?

Claudia, who posted via a Mobile Device but denies it (explanation?):stare:
or Connie, who committed the most despicable act of triple-posting:whip:

Explanations, NOW!!!
Show me the evidence where I posted via mobile phone, which was the original accusation. And what kind of bogus accusation is that anyway?
I wager that both candidats for the lynch this round is innocent. So who it finally will be is less important. I am just saying, Bugsy is scum.

[MAFIA] Salvatore

06-21-2011, 10:25

This has nothing to do with the current cases we have to vote on, but, sifting through recent posts trying to figure out the cases on Claudia and Connie, I had a few remarks:

1- the killings have been remarkably imaginative and consistent, especially the radio-controlled theme
2- GeneralHankerchief's writing skill must of course be taken into account for the colorfulness of the demises
3- mafia could actually be lying low

Despite points 2 and 3, I would opine that:

1- at least 1 mafioso is very active in the thread/public posting
2- he is imaginative and colorful in his posts and consistent in his style

I'll just leave that as food for thought for the time being as I'm not quite sure if this can actually single out one person but I suggest we all follow up on it - or just blast this reasoning if you think its totally off-track!

As for the Connie vs Claudia case... I'm not 100% sure I get it, but vote: [MAFIA] Claudia

Visor

06-21-2011, 10:27

1- at least 1 mafioso is very active in the thread/public posting

Mafia are always never inactive.

2- he is imaginative and colorful in his posts and consistent in his style

This.... nah.

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-21-2011, 10:28

Please, someone sum up the cases in point form and I'll give an opinion.
Are you looking for actual, solid cases against these 2 popular ladies, my dearly recently departed friend?
You might as well watch me chug down 2 cases of beer in top form, and give your opinion about it. Ready?

Visor

06-21-2011, 10:29

I'm lazy. But fine.

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-21-2011, 10:39

I'm lazy. But fine. Good man. Prepare to be impressed! GAHAHAHA! :barrel:

Claudia;2053331756']Show me the evidence where I posted via mobile phone, which was the original accusation. And what kind of bogus accusation is that anyway?
I wager that both candidats for the lynch this round is innocent. So who it finally will be is less important. I am just saying, Bugsy is scum.Ehem. If you would please go to page 9, post #3 & post #6, on the lower lefthand section of both posts. You may also like to check the last post on the same page, to see a certain [MAFIA] Bruno commenting about the same matter.:study:

Visor

06-21-2011, 10:47

Connie:

^ ah right i messed up that one a bit..................
Posts in the wrong accout.

For God's sakes man think about what your typing. I mean my Goodness lol...................
A tad hypocritical considering you posted in the wrong account and then posted in the alt account very soon afterwards.

Then posts: "Fail" twice.

Sigh i am really sorry............. didnt bold

vote: [Mafia] Bruno

Still a bit confused here. Votes Bruno because he made a comment about night. The mafia typically (IMO) won't make a comment about the night before/after Day 1. Voting for him seems scummy to me.

Votes for Pedro next, IIRC, keeping the tally even at that stage, but note Pedro was lynched.

The rocco character seems more like a clown than a killer................. or is it a clever ruse?

vote: rocco

Nonsensical vote. Makes a joke therefore scum? Never gonna be true, sorry. Case in point, me. Note Rocco was lynched.

You cannot use our fake account names to draw conclusions about who could be mafia, they're just account names. This would be like drawing the same conclusions in a non-anonymous game, figuring that one of the few females we have around, would be mafia. Doesn't work, sorry.

vote: Connie

However I like who you are voting for. Scum sauce and salsa, surely a good candidate.
Now this. this is scummy.

It's not scummy at all. Connie is looking more scum by the post.

Then again this is also pretty scummy. Make something out of nothing doncha yah.

vote: bobby
Decentish vote IMO.

Okay now this is scummy. I never voted third on a bandwagon. whether I am lynched or not I think your mafia scum is right here folks.

Also bobby is a bit scummy. Yeah he may say it was an omgused but his initial reasons for voting for me were rather deliberate at such an early stage in a game where people don't know much about each other.

obviousl,

vote: claudia

Your cases are nil on both of us but there are people acting much more scummy not to mention inactives we could all be better off voting.
Now we talk? Suspicious. Deliberate because you were acting scum. You were setting yourself up.

Also bobby has now voted for me two phases in a row which seems all too serious and not lighthearted in the slightest.

Scummy Scummy Scum Scum.

I am barely trying to find the scum? Pray tell good sir what efforts you have made besides jumping on a bandwagon of me with a fabricated claim which is a bigger scum tell this early in the game than a nonsensical silly vote. And then starting another bandwagon with no reasoning whatsoever?

Yes, you are barely trying to find the scum. You cannot really blame a bandwagon starter. They don't know their vote will be a bandwagon.

Conclusion: Not looking good. Bad Townie/Scum.

Claudia:

vote: Christopher. I am sure I saw you munching on a chicken leg.

Random vote.

vote: Rocco
Waiting for your dirty results and voted after the required academic quarter. A little too smooth...

The person to first post after a phase always draws attention to themselves. This post is a bit scummy to me.

I would like a tally... Could some of you boys help a lady?
Lazy.

vote: Bugsy getting gipsy about having to kill a lot of townies, huh?

Nonsensical vote.

My phone? What are you drinking? I am using Chrome as a browser for this game... on a laptop.
Maybe you should check your intelligence source? That person might be Mafia...

Gets defensive about possible phone posting. TBH, my account says all my posts are from a mobile device, even when I'm on my desktop computer or laptop. So I don't see this as scum.

I like Johnny's reasoning.
We are taking you down scum - vote: Bugsy

Gets a supporter, helps.

This is ridiculous.
I voted Bugys first of all because he was trying to pressure the host into getting rid of players. He specifically asked for 11 WoGs. Using my logic, that would just help the mafia getting rid of people to kill and provide fewer rounds to be caught.

You might think that getting rid of players is helpful narrowing down mafia candidates. But let’s not kid ourselves; we don’t want to indulge the Mafiosi the service of a shorter game by lessening the kill pool. Time is a resource we need. Time is not what Mafiosi wants; they want dead townies, as fast as possible.

You have forced my hand:
Vote: Connie

Sounds like frustrated peron. Actually sounds a bit like Greyblades. :laugh4:

Show me the evidence where I posted via mobile phone, which was the original accusation. And what kind of bogus accusation is that anyway?
I wager that both candidats for the lynch this round is innocent. So who it finally will be is less important. I am just saying, Bugsy is scum.

Suspicious IMO.

Conclusion: Not as scummy as Connie, probably should be kept alive for another round.
Verdict: Kill Connie.

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-21-2011, 10:59

Hey Visorslash, do you mind telling what device you're using to post right now?

Visor

06-21-2011, 11:02

Desktop Comp. It says it for all my posts since I posted on an iPad once.

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-21-2011, 11:09

Your cooperation is much appreciated, Visorslash.
Hence, Vote: Connie

edit: Time's up for hearing defenses for me. Ol' Connie's silence must mean guilty.
Off to sleep for the next 22 hours. Nighty night

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-21-2011, 11:09

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

(please ignore)

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-21-2011, 12:09

Dissection time...

Claudia:

vote: Christopher. I am sure I saw you munching on a chicken leg.

Random vote.
True, but he did specifically mention chicken after Chickenman got killed.

vote: Rocco
Waiting for your dirty results and voted after the required academic quarter. A little too smooth...

The person to first post after a phase always draws attention to themselves. This post is a bit scummy to me.
The first person(s) should get a little attention as Mafia do tend to wait for the results and post accordingly.

I would like a tally... Could some of you boys help a lady?
Lazy.
Incorrect assessment.

vote: Bugsy getting gipsy about having to kill a lot of townies, huh?

Nonsensical vote.
Not at all... this is my main case against Bugsy. He blatantly asked for 11 WoGs, which I have already explained why is scummy.

My phone? What are you drinking? I am using Chrome as a browser for this game... on a laptop.
Maybe you should check your intelligence source? That person might be Mafia...

Gets defensive about possible phone posting. TBH, my account says all my posts are from a mobile device, even when I'm on my desktop computer or laptop. So I don't see this as scum.
Defensive = don't like to be wrongfully accused. Nothing particularly scummy about standing up for what is right. You should stop treating this as indication of scummieness. In fact - I would assert that anyone accusing someone for wanting to be heard, want's to kill discussion. And that my friends, is quite scummy.

I like Johnny's reasoning.
We are taking you down scum - vote: Bugsy

Gets a supporter, helps.

Can't lynch someone with one vote.

This is ridiculous.
I voted Bugys first of all because he was trying to pressure the host into getting rid of players. He specifically asked for 11 WoGs. Using my logic, that would just help the mafia getting rid of people to kill and provide fewer rounds to be caught.

You might think that getting rid of players is helpful narrowing down mafia candidates. But let’s not kid ourselves; we don’t want to indulge the Mafiosi the service of a shorter game by lessening the kill pool. Time is a resource we need. Time is not what Mafiosi wants; they want dead townies, as fast as possible.

You have forced my hand:
Vote: Connie

Sounds like frustrated peron. Actually sounds a bit like Greyblades.
Just pointing out why I voted as I did. Reading back would have made my re-posting unnecessary. Getting the votes i did, I had to help the lazy bastards.

Show me the evidence where I posted via mobile phone, which was the original accusation. And what kind of bogus accusation is that anyway?
I wager that both candidats for the lynch this round is innocent. So who it finally will be is less important. I am just saying, Bugsy is scum.

Suspicious IMO.
Not very good at this are we?

Conclusion: Not as scummy as Connie, probably should be kept alive for another round
Who are you to give advice of whom to keep or whom to let go? "Keep alive for another round?" Nonsensical dribble.

I know you are an innocent townie, but I have to speak up when the seeds of lies creeps into the game.

Visor

06-21-2011, 12:22

True, but he did specifically mention chicken after Chickenman got killed.

And that makes him scum. :yes:

The first person(s) should get a little attention as Mafia do tend to wait for the results and post accordingly.

To each their own.

Incorrect assessment.

You ask someone else to do something you could do yourself = lazy.

Not at all... this is my main case against Bugsy. He blatantly asked for 11 WoGs, which I have already explained why is scummy.

A mafia would never ask for 11 WoG's unless it was a joke. IT draws too much suspiscion.

Defensive = don't like to be wrongfully accused. Nothing particularly scummy about standing up for what is right. You should stop treating this as indication of scummieness. In fact - I would assert that anyone accusing someone for wanting to be heard, want's to kill discussion. And that my friends, is quite scummy.

Notice I said it wasn't scum. Try reading what I post.

Such as:
So I don't see this as scum.

Can't lynch someone with one vote.

Just posting a fact.

Just pointing out why I voted as I did. Reading back would have made my re-posting unnecessary. Getting the votes i did, I had to help the lazy bastards.

You're one to talk of lazyness. :P

Not very good at this are we?

If you're talking about me, then I got lazy at the end.

Who are you to give advice of whom to keep or whom to let go? "Keep alive for another round?" Nonsensical dribble.
I'm sorry, what?

I am a townie player, and I have an interest in seeing the town win.

Now this is certainly curious for me. I said they should keep you alive and kill Connie instead, so I am technically against killing you, at least for the moment, but you question my words? Why would you do that?

[MAFIA] Anne

06-21-2011, 12:31

This Claudia woman is a little bit batty, talkin' to spirits and whatnot. I can't tell who she's talking to or why. Might be good to put her in a straitjacket for her own good. Y'all sound pretty certain you know what yer talking about, but that's strange. You can't possibly be so sure based on what's happened so far. Besides, it's plainly obvious that it's Frank who is guilty. You can take it to the bank.

Try reading what I have to say! I know better'n anyone here! Pointless posturing! Yadda yadda! I AM THE MAFIA QUEEN!

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-21-2011, 12:46

You ask someone else to do something you could do yourself = lazy.

Still incorrect. It is called delegating.
Some pips have a fetish about lists. I don't and hence asked if someone would help out.

A mafia would never ask for 11 WoG's unless it was a joke. IT draws too much suspiscion.
Not if that player is who I think he is.

Notice I said it wasn't scum. Try reading what I post.
Stating something in that way = implying scummines. It is how I read it and it is probably how others read it.

Now this is certainly curious for me. I said they should keep you alive and kill Connie instead, so I am technically against killing you, at least for the moment, but you question my words? Why would you do that?
It was the "let's keep her alive for another round" that got me all ruffled up. You are assuming authority where none is warranted.

Anne;2053331797']This Claudia woman is a little bit batty, talkin' to spirits and whatnot. I can't tell who she's talking to or why. Might be good to put her in a straitjacket for her own good. Y'all sound pretty certain you know what yer talking about, but that's strange. You can't possibly be so sure based on what's happened so far. Besides, it's plainly obvious that it's Frank who is guilty. You can take it to the bank.

Try reading what I have to say! I know better'n anyone here! Pointless posturing! Yadda yadda! I AM THE MAFIA QUEEN!
Typical, "Its too quiet in here... all dead or sometin'?" then, "Too much chatter... let's pipe down shall we?"
Nothing is good enough, eh?

Visor

06-21-2011, 12:50

Still incorrect. It is called delegating.
Some pips have a fetish about lists. I don't and hence asked if someone would help out.It is called lazyness....

Not if that player is who I think he is.

Which means what? Elaborate.

Stating something in that way = implying scummines. It is how I read it and it is probably how others read it.

If they read it, they would see that I said NOT scum. You would see it too, if you read the post.

It was the "let's keep her alive for another round" that got me all ruffled up. You are assuming authority where none is warranted.

Just my opinion on the situation.

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-21-2011, 12:57

It is called lazyness....

No, it isn't.

Which means what? Elaborate.
That he is scum. Are you not paying attention?

If they read it, they would see that I said NOT scum. You would see it too, if you read the post.
Your "body language" said differently.

Visor

06-21-2011, 13:04

No, it isn't.
Yes it is. We can go in circles all day.

That he is scum. Are you not paying attention?
I mean, which player is he? Give a hint of some kind, otherwise your words are pretty useless then. (On this particular bit).

Your "body language" said differently.

*shrugs*

TinCow

06-21-2011, 13:48

A new feature has been added to make the Anonymous accounts easier to use. All in-use Anonymous accounts are now automatically linked to the profiles of the players to whom they are assigned. Changing between accounts now takes only a single click and does not require logging out, logging in, or entering passwords. To switch accounts, simply use the Quick Account Switch dropdown menu on the navbar at the top of the forum:

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This feature has been enabled for all living players in Mafia X. Enjoy. :bow:

[MAFIA] Claudia

06-21-2011, 14:19

Yes it is. We can go in circles all day.
No, it isn't. I am a woman and thereby win any argument by default.

I mean, which player is he? Give a hint of some kind, otherwise your words are pretty useless then. (On this particular bit).
My words are useless?
And he has revealed himself already. You don't care to look? That is according to you, just lazy. My argument is not diminished or enhanced by knowing Bugsy's true face. He has displayed scummines in asking to kill off players which would greatly help the Mafia. Ergo, town or not, not very helpful for the town effort. Which I associate with, without emphasizing it in every post.

[MAFIA] Bruno

06-21-2011, 14:23

Vote: Connie

Following Visorslash.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-21-2011, 15:01

(Thank you, TinCow!)

This nonsense never woulda happened if you'd all just listened to me and voted for Vincent-the-scummo.

An eh, Claudia doll? You're goin down the wrong track on that WOG thing. Maybe Bugsy's mafia and maybe he ain't, but askin for WOGs don't prove it. Don't even hint at it. I don't care who he is, mafia don't need to draw that kinda attention to theirselves when they can ask all quiet-like in private. Now you tell me Bugsy's someone who'd never do that if he was wearin his own face, an maybe that's different.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-21-2011, 17:03

Fantastic, TinCow!

Also, as to my comments on the WoGs: I hate games where the scum just fly below the radar without even voting. I have no problem with 11 WoGs if those 11 would otherwise be needed to be lynched or carried as dead weight into the endgame. Give me active players any time, even if they are less. I mean, this is a large game against two mafia. We could probably have a good shot at it even if we were a bit fewer.

[MAFIA] Connie

06-21-2011, 17:06

^ ah right i messed up that one a bit..................
Posts in the wrong accout.

For God's sakes man think about what your typing. I mean my Goodness lol...................
A tad hypocritical considering you posted in the wrong account and then posted in the alt account very soon afterwards.

Then posts: "Fail" twice.

Sigh i am really sorry............. didnt bold

vote: [Mafia] Bruno
Still a bit confused here. Votes Bruno because he made a comment about night. The mafia typically (IMO) won't make a comment about the night before/after Day 1. Voting for him seems scummy to me.

Votes for Pedro next, IIRC, keeping the tally even at that stage, but note Pedro was lynched.

The rocco character seems more like a clown than a killer................. or is it a clever ruse?

vote: rocco
Nonsensical vote. Makes a joke therefore scum? Never gonna be true, sorry. Case in point, me. Note Rocco was lynched.

You cannot use our fake account names to draw conclusions about who could be mafia, they're just account names. This would be like drawing the same conclusions in a non-anonymous game, figuring that one of the few females we have around, would be mafia. Doesn't work, sorry.

vote: Connie

However I like who you are voting for. Scum sauce and salsa, surely a good candidate.
Now this. this is scummy.
It's not scummy at all. Connie is looking more scum by the post.

Then again this is also pretty scummy. Make something out of nothing doncha yah.

vote: bobby
Decentish vote IMO.

Okay now this is scummy. I never voted third on a bandwagon. whether I am lynched or not I think your mafia scum is right here folks.

Also bobby is a bit scummy. Yeah he may say it was an omgused but his initial reasons for voting for me were rather deliberate at such an early stage in a game where people don't know much about each other.

obviousl,

vote: claudia

Your cases are nil on both of us but there are people acting much more scummy not to mention inactives we could all be better off voting.
Now we talk? Suspicious. Deliberate because you were acting scum. You were setting yourself up.

Also bobby has now voted for me two phases in a row which seems all too serious and not lighthearted in the slightest.
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum.

I am barely trying to find the
Yes, you are barely trying to find the scum. You cannot really blame a bandwagon starter. They don't know their vote will be a bandwagon.

Conclusion: Not looking good. Bad Townie/Scum. scum? Pray tell good sir what efforts you have made besides jumping on a bandwagon of me with a fabricated claim which is a bigger scum tell this early in the game than a nonsensical silly vote. And then starting another bandwagon with no reasoning whatsoever?

Posting in the wrong account is scummy? To me it sounds like i misunderstood the whole anon account concept and thought we were creating actual new accounts.

Yeah i posted fail twice because if you notice i edited my posts. Edited posts can't be counted as votes. In the first i accidentally edited without thinking. In the second i accidentally messed up voting, i.e. forgetting something like a colon.

OMG really. First round votes are always ridiculous. I just found some silly fabricated reason for the first round vote everyone does that it isnt a scum tell. By not jumping on another players bandwagon i did something non scummy.

Early in game i choose a candidate that was lynched so did all the other people who voted for him. are all of these players scum as well?

Silly vote. what were your votes based off of before now? Hard cold evidence and logic. The basis of the Pedro vote for instance was so people got to make funny napoleon dynamite jokes. At this time in the phase it was still joke time since nobody knows anything.

OMG!!!!!! I talk more when fighting for my life. Everybody breaking news your not scum if you meekly go to your death..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can blame a bandwagoner who consistently tries to start bandwagons on you without any real strong evidence. And i am trying to find the scum quite a bit more than a large percentage of players in this game.

I am a bad townie? what were your contributions to the town.

[MAFIA] Connie

06-21-2011, 17:09

Sonny;2053331879'](Thank you, TinCow!)

This nonsense never woulda happened if you'd all just listened to me and voted for Vincent-the-scummo.

An eh, Claudia doll? You're goin down the wrong track on that WOG thing. Maybe Bugsy's mafia and maybe he ain't, but askin for WOGs don't prove it. Don't even hint at it. I don't care who he is, mafia don't need to draw that kinda attention to theirselves when they can ask all quiet-like in private. Now you tell me Bugsy's someone who'd never do that if he was wearin his own face, an maybe that's different.

Its a double edged sword. It gives us less time to get it right while giving a greater chance of getting it right as well as lessens the ability of the mafia to hide. Most people often lynch inactives to clear up the field so im not really sure why she is getting blasted for the idea.

[MAFIA] Connie

06-21-2011, 17:10

Please, someone sum up the cases in point form and I'll give an opinion.

Also this. Your the one ragging on Claudia for being lazy. Why don't you look it up yourself?

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-21-2011, 18:02

[MAFIA] Vincent

06-21-2011, 18:29

Nothing's changed for me.
Vote:Connie

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-21-2011, 18:45

Yup, you still mafia, Vinny.

[MAFIA] Nick

06-21-2011, 19:19

I ought to just renew my earlier vote. We can keep an eye out on follow ups including Connie's future behavior and if we know to avoid the stupid double jeopardy mistake towns often make we'll be fine.

Vote: Claudia

[MAFIA] Mickey

06-21-2011, 19:33

Sonny;2053331962']Yup, you still mafia, Vinny.

Sonny, can we be friends?

I'm going to abstain from voting now. Don't think either of the two should be lynched.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-21-2011, 20:32

Claudia;2053331851']No, it isn't. I am a woman and thereby win any argument by default.

My words are useless?
And he has revealed himself already. You don't care to look? That is according to you, just lazy. My argument is not diminished or enhanced by knowing Bugsy's true face.

Ain't nobody got time for chasin around wild bats. Point to the spot or stop yappin about it.

(Do we have to repeat previous votes? If so, vote: Claudia.)

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-21-2011, 20:35

Mickey;2053331983']Sonny, can we be friends?

I'm takin applications for yes-men down at the pool hall.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-21-2011, 21:25

Connie;2053331926']Its a double edged sword. It gives us less time to get it right while giving a greater chance of getting it right as well as lessens the ability of the mafia to hide. Most people often lynch inactives to clear up the field so im not really sure why she is getting blasted for the idea.

It's principle more than anything. I can't understand (and have a hard time tolerating) people who sign up just to do nothing, not even play. Yes it makes it harder for the mafia to hide but first and foremost it makes the game more funny and active, and it sends a signal. "Make them an offer they cannot refuse" and so on.

GeneralHankerchief

06-21-2011, 23:00

Voting closed.

Stand by for the execution.

GeneralHankerchief

06-21-2011, 23:41

Chief of Police JuJuBee watched with detached interest as the villagers of the Frontroom continued their voting process for the fourth day in a row. It seemed as if the townspeople, after a rocky start, were finally getting the hang of things.

"Wait a minute, so Claudia's the lynch choice, right? All right, I'm behind that! I cast my vote for Connie!"

"No, you idiot, it's Connie that's the lynch choice, so you made the right choice in the first place, but she's still different from Claudia."

"Okay, so... Connie's actually the lynch choice? Right then, I'm changing my vote to Claudia!"

"..."

Well, JuJuBee, surmised, they did still have some kinks to work out.

Anyway, as the sun set, due to perhaps a mixup in names, perhaps not, Connie and Claudia were tied in the voting, narrowly edging out Bugsy for "first place". "Connie and Claudia?" JuJu said to himself after reading the votes out loud, "Sounds like a bad Nia Vardalos movie. Then again, they're all bad. HEY-O!!!"

With the entire remaining population of the Frontroom groaning at that horrible joke, they all resumed voting, it being - as expected - a tight back-and-forth battle between Connie and Claudia. Connie was getting rather belligerent with the voters for putting her in this position, as she smoked her fat cigar and started yelling at everyone for their perceived idiocy. This seemed to be hurting her more than helping her. But then, somebody cried out:

"HEY! LOOK, EVERYBODY! Claudia's texting in her vote!!!" Instantly people started gravitating towards Claudia and throwing votes her way, Claudia, looking utterly puzzled, could only gape in shock for a minute. Finally, she recovered enough to stammer out an explanation.

"But - I'm not texting in my vote! I don't even know how to text in a vote, especially if we're doing it by ballot box! I don't even have JuJuBee's number! I don't even have my phone with me, for God's sakes! You can't lynch me based off this! It's not right!"

But it was too late. At that moment, the Chief of Police cut off voting, leaving a very angry Claudia with nothing to do but stare daggers at everyone and mount the execution platform.

"Any last words?" JuJu said, as he revved up the day's method of execution - a chainsaw.

"This *#%! happens way too often," Claudia, also known as Sigurd, muttered, before the saw made contact.

Day 4a tally:
Claudia: 9 (Connie, Paulie, Fat Tony, Bertha, Bugsy, Salvatore, Angelo, Nick, Sonny) :skull:
Connie: 6 (Bobby, Ralph, Claudia, Luigi, Bruno, Vincent)

Abstained: 2 (Anne, Mickey)
Didn't vote: 8 (Emilio, Frank, Fredo, Giorgio, Johnny, Luciano, Pete, Richie)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (24)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Bugsy
Connie
Emilio
Fat Tony
Frank
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Mickey
Nick
Paulie
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Salvatore
Sonny
Vincent

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)

Player list:
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Night 5! Orders are due in 23 hours and 19 minutes. WoG warnings will go out at the start of next day phase.

[MAFIA] Giorgio

06-21-2011, 23:44

My apologies for missing the voting this round, got mixed up and figured it'd be alright as long as I did it before 24:00 GMT. That worked well...

[MAFIA] Anne

06-22-2011, 03:57

Don't think you can hide from me, Franky. I know you're still here. If you think you can make me move on to someone else just by being silent, you're wrong. Not even in the ballpark, Frank.

:wiseguy:

Visor

06-22-2011, 10:08

Posting in the wrong account is scummy? To me it sounds like i misunderstood the whole anon account concept and thought we were creating actual new accounts.
Didn't say it was scummy. Read the post FFS.

Yeah i posted fail twice because if you notice i edited my posts. Edited posts can't be counted as votes. In the first i accidentally edited without thinking. In the second i accidentally messed up voting, i.e. forgetting something like a colon.
Okay.

OMG really. First round votes are always ridiculous. I just found some silly fabricated reason for the first round vote everyone does that it isnt a scum tell. By not jumping on another players bandwagon i did something non scummy.

Not all the time, but most of the time, yes. I'm saying I didn't like what you did from a town perspective.

Early in game i choose a candidate that was lynched so did all the other people who voted for him. are all of these players scum as well?

Notice I didn't say that it was scummy that that person was lynched, I added it as an afterthought.

Silly vote. what were your votes based off of before now? Hard cold evidence and logic. The basis of the Pedro vote for instance was so people got to make funny napoleon dynamite jokes. At this time in the phase it was still joke time since nobody knows anything.

Meh.

OMG!!!!!! I talk more when fighting for my life. Everybody breaking news your not scum if you meekly go to your death..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you mad? I'm just posting my opninion of the situation. You're acting panicy now, which won't be good for your future prospects.

You can blame a bandwagoner who consistently tries to start bandwagons on you without any real strong evidence. And i am trying to find the scum quite a bit more than a large percentage of players in this game.
A) Someone who starts a "bandwagon" cannot be blamed. They don't know that it will turn into a bandwagon. It is the voters who agree that should have suspicion.

B) Please, show how. Besides the inactives though.

I am a bad townie? what were your contributions to the town.

I was nightkilled on night 2, IIRC, so I had no real impact on this game, through I believe, no fault of my own. This is my first real contribution.

Sigurd

06-22-2011, 10:09

I really like the anonymity these accounts give you. It is fun horsing around in a character knowing that the rest of the players don't know who you are.
Greyblades, heh?
And making that tally would have given my identity away... Third on the bandwagon got me lynched? What a load of superstitious drivvel... :sneaky:

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-22-2011, 10:12

To say "the one starting a bandwagon doesn't know it'll be a bandwagon" is naive.

I can create you a bandwagon for any player that's at least slightly logical (i.e. not for inactives or the like) and I can also vote in a way that makes sure no one else will vote for that person...

Visor

06-22-2011, 10:15

Greyblades, heh?

He does the frustrated townie well. :laugh4: But apparently you do too. Scum.

Visor

06-22-2011, 10:16

He does the frustrated townie well. :laugh4: But apparently you do too. Scum.

I can create you a bandwagon for any player that's at least slightly logical (i.e. not for inactives or the like) and I can also vote in a way that makes sure no one else will vote for that person...

Okay, some people can. But for me, I don't expect my votes to become bandwagons, and when they do I am surprised.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-22-2011, 13:05

And making that tally would have given my identity away...

All the goombas woulda thought you was Romanic.

[MAFIA] Johnny

06-22-2011, 14:28

Did I forget to vote last round? Drat, I think I did.:wall:

GeneralHankerchief

06-23-2011, 00:27

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. The mafioso used this silence and early portion of the day to enter his target's house undetected with several bottles of a mysterious spray. He spent a significant portion of time spraying down the entire house, every room, using up all of his bottles in the process. He used an entire bottle on his target, who luckily did not wake up during the spray-down. Satisfied, the mafioso left with his target still asleep, going off to parts unknown. His target would face an unpleasant death indeed, but it would take some time.

It had been five days. Five long days since the mafia attack had begun on the Frontroom and had consumed all of the villagers' lives and free time. Frankly, Nick was starting to get sick of it. He was a citizen of the world, after all, and despite the relevance of local events to his own health and well-being, Nick wanted more. Needed more. The first thing he would do once the threat had been eliminated was pack up and leave the Frontroom for safer grounds, so Nick needed to be well-informed about what was going on elsewhere. He sat down in his favorite recliner, picked up the TV remote, and turned on the news.

The man in the suit with impeccable hair continued in his usual soothing tone as Nick watched and prepared to immerse himself in important world events.

"And in lighter fare," the anchor said, "This little guy's getting a taste of summer fun just like the rest of us! Everybody meet Twiggy the Waterskiing squirrel! It's his favorite time of year!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37fDXX9stJY

Nick reached for the remote in disgust, about to turn the television off. Of course they would show this. Nothing had changed in five days, why would it? Nick chastised himself for being so foolish.

Gripping the remote, Nick pressed the "power" button. Nothing happened. Twiggy continued to aimlessly ski around on the television. Leaning forward so he could be closer to the TV, Nick pressed it again. Nothing happened. Nick popped open the battery cap and fiddled around with his Double-As before trying again. Still nothing. Twiggy seemed to be mocking him. Muttering to himself, Nick pulled himself out of his chair and walked over to the TV to turn it off the old-fashioned way - the power button actually located on the TV itself. He pressed it. Nothing happened. Nick, more confused than anything else by this point, started pressing it rapidly.

This time, something did happen. The TV screen rose by two feet as a pair of robotic legs sprung out from under it. Likewise, a pair of arms shot out from opposite sides of the screen. Nick jumped back a full five feet, screaming in a very high-pitched voice. Later investigators when examining his corpse would discover that he had soiled himself.

"PERMISSION TO SHUT MACHINE DOWN DENIED," the television said in a menacing voice. "PROGRAMMING OF TWIGGY THE WATERSKIING SQUIRREL HAS NOT YET FINISHED. PREPARE TO BE TERMINATED." Nick tried to scramble out of the room, but the robo-TV was far too fast for him, gripping Nick by its arms and delivering 90,000 volts of electricity through Nick's body. All the while, Twiggy continued to ski around in his boat piloted by hamsters.

A few buildings away, the mafioso once again put away his radio-controlled device and walked away, chuckling.

Meanwhile, Mickey had noticed that he had been having a bit of an ant problem in his house ever since he had woken up. He thought that it was just because he had left his dinner out last night and was too lazy to wash the plates and silverware, but no, that wasn't it. The things seemed to be everywhere - in the basement, his TV room, even his shower and bedroom. And they weren't the normal black variety, either, no. These ants were all red; deadly and menacing fire ants, the kind that devoured humans alive in more the more ridiculous and unbelievable movies (like the fourth Indiana Jones film).

When Mickey was washing his hands for the 40th time that morning and took a quick count of the ants of his bathroom, the number went above twenty-five. In a small, rather confined space. It was at this point when Mickey decided that he would call up the local pest control services. He walked into his living room, dialing the number - and stopped mid-dial. Facing him was an army of 100 red imported fire ants, all of them marching his way.

Dropping the phone, Mickey turned and ran the other way, shrieking. However, the room he fled into was no better - a full 500 fire ants this time faced him, and were once again marching his way. Meanwhile, the 100 from the other room were closing the gap quickly on him. Rapidly running out of room, Mickey took the one escape route he had left that wasn't completely blocked off by the ants - and found himself face-to-face with fire ants. 2,000 of them, covering the entire remainder of his house, were all marching right at him, attracted by the spray that the mafioso had used on his house and especially him at the start of the morning.

Surrounded on all sides by fire ants, Mickey was frozen in fear as the ants started to overwhelm him. By the end of it, there was very little left to identify that anything named "Mickey" had ever existed.

Later that day, Chief of Police JuJuBee gathered everyone into the Frontroom square in order to make an announcement.

"Okay everyone," JuJuBee said, "There are a couple of issues on the agenda today. First off, I've received several calls from local citizens that numerous ant farms have been emptied. These ants' whereabouts are currently unknown. Secondly, we have two more deaths today: Nick, also known as Earthling, and Mickey, better known as Csargo, are sadly no longer with us. These two cases are probably related, but I'm too swamped trying to figure out the missing ant mystery to know for sure. Anyway, you know the drill!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (22)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Bugsy
Connie
Emilio
Fat Tony
Frank
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Paulie
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Salvatore
Sonny
Vincent

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)

Player list:
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Day 5! Voting will last for 24 hours.

WOG WARNING: Fredo, Pete. I do have replacements standing by. PMing their main accounts now as a heads-up. There are others that are in danger of appearing on this list if they do not lodge a vote in this phase.

Chaotix

06-23-2011, 00:47

Can we please change Fredo's name to Al Fredo?

johnhughthom

06-23-2011, 00:56

I'll be a replacement if you need anymore GH.

GeneralHankerchief

06-23-2011, 01:06

I'll be a replacement if you need anymore GH.

I have a policy to not use already-dead players as replacements, sorry JHT. :embarassed: But thanks for still bothering to follow along! :yes:

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-23-2011, 01:26

vote: Vincent

Wake me up when he's dead, I'm takin a nap.

[MAFIA] Paulie

06-23-2011, 01:54

vote: Anne
You gotta go.

johnhughthom

06-23-2011, 02:01

I have a policy to not use already-dead players as replacements, sorry JHT. :embarassed: But thanks for still bothering to follow along! :yes:

No problem, I thought you might not want to use former player but offered just in case.

I have to follow along to find out who Paulie is, I need to know who was actually upset by my death, I thought the only emotions I engendered amongst orgahs was apathy or contempt. :huh:

[MAFIA] Johnny

06-23-2011, 02:18

Vote: Claudia

B-Wing

06-23-2011, 02:29

She's dead, bro.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-23-2011, 02:42

No problem, I thought you might not want to use former player but offered just in case.

I have to follow along to find out who Paulie is, I need to know who was actually upset by my death, I thought the only emotions I engendered amongst orgahs was apathy or contempt. :huh:

*throws the ghost of johnhughthom a beer*

[MAFIA] Johnny

06-23-2011, 03:13

She's dead, bro.
Still alive: (23)
...
Claudia
...:shrug:

Earthling

06-23-2011, 03:16

No, sorry guys, I think you're on the wrong leads. I don't think the Mafia would have gone for those kills last night, especially giving up the chance for future lynchbait (simple postcount/lurker argument after all, me and Mickey were not really conspicuous targets) if they hadn't been thinking about things going behind the scenes and didn't think we townies were onto something. Either they feared through our votes that we were going to be supporting too strong of an overall Innocent block in voting or that we were on the right track otherwise.

Here's some people who are looking strongly Innocent, so I'd go for someone not on this list. For now I might think Frank is perhaps a good call, or Ralph.

Anne
Bobby
Bugsy
Connie
Fat Tony
Johnny
Pete
Sonny
Vincent

[MAFIA] Anne

06-23-2011, 03:17

Paulie;2053332584']vote: Anne
You gotta go.

I'm sure I do, Paulie, I'm sure I do.

But first, let's kill Frank, and make me the happiest little orphan Anne around.

Vote: Frank

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-23-2011, 03:26

You help me kill Vinny today, I vote for Frank tomorrow.

Earthling, I ain't been after no one but Vinny since day two, an I'm pretty much the only one. Mafia kill me, Vinny bites it next day no question. He don't belong on that list.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-23-2011, 03:27

Sonny;2053332614']You help me kill Vinny today, I vote for Frank tomorrow.

Reverse the order, and you have a deal.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-23-2011, 03:29

unvote, vote Frank

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-23-2011, 03:30

You growin' on me, Annie. A bit like a fungus, but a man can't have everythin.

[MAFIA] Paulie

06-23-2011, 03:53

I have to follow along to find out who Paulie is, I need to know who was actually upset by my death, I thought the only emotions I engendered amongst orgahs was apathy or contempt. :huh:

Well, to be honest, I didn't actually notice it was you behind Christopher's name. :rolleyes: I just sincerely believe Anne killed ya. I am a fan, however!

Also, Claudia is on both the Executed and Alive lists. But she definitely just got executed.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-23-2011, 04:16

Why did you think I killed Christopher? I didn't, but I still have a feline-like curiosity as to why you think I killed him.

[MAFIA] Paulie

06-23-2011, 04:20

Gut reaction. Plus I asked a psychic.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-23-2011, 04:50

Paulie;2053332631']Gut reaction. Plus I asked a psychic.

Yes, of course. That explains why you're so wrong. :laugh4:

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-23-2011, 05:43

Here's some people who are looking strongly Innocent, so I'd go for someone not on this list. For now I might think Frank is perhaps a good call, or Ralph.

Anne
Bobby
Bugsy
Connie
Fat Tony
Johnny
Pete
Sonny
Vincent
Kinda similar to my list (of players I get a Town feel for):
Anne
Bobby (me :yes:)
Bugsy
Frank
Fredo
Johnny
Richie
Vincent

Connie is not on my list, and she's one of my top suspects. In fact, I'll follow up on my suspicions....

vote: Connie

But I'm interested to hear why you think Connie is Town, Earthling. Maybe I've missed something.

Also interested about Fat Tony, Pete and Sonny, that are on your list and not on mine.

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-23-2011, 06:13

vote: Connie

I think she's scum, mainly because they defended each other so vehemently when they were tied last day phase. Now you might say scum would never do that but there's so many things scums would never do and apparently they have all been done in the past so to me there's nothing the Mafia couldn't do.

And how in the world am I not on the "looks like townie to me"-list? :yes:

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-23-2011, 06:19

Why Connie is a good lynch candidate:

Connie;2053326372']Sigh i am really sorry............. didnt bold

vote: [Mafia] Bruno
Voting Bruno, not saying why. I don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys.

Connie;2053326983']vote: pedro
Voting Pedro, again not saying why. I don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys.

Connie;2053328664']The rocco character seems more like a clown than a killer................. or is it a clever ruse?
vote: rocco
Voting Rocco, still not saying why. Oh wait, she is saying why, but she's joking around, so I don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys.

Connie;2053330140']Now this. this is scummy.

Then again this is also pretty scummy. Make something out of nothing doncha yah.

vote: bobby
OMGUS vote on me, typically scummy. She didn't bother to make a case on me, the only reason for her vote is my vote on her. I don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys.

Connie;2053331572']Okay now this is scummy. I never voted third on a bandwagon. whether I am lynched or not I think your mafia scum is right here folks.

Also bobby is a bit scummy. Yeah he may say it was an omgused but his initial reasons for voting for me were rather deliberate at such an early stage in a game where people don't know much about each other.

obviousl,

vote: claudia

Your cases are nil on both of us but there are people acting much more scummy not to mention inactives we could all be better off voting.
Voting to save her life during the tiebreaker between Claudia and her. I can't really blame her for that.

Connie;2053331573']Also bobby has now voted for me two phases in a row which seems all too serious and not lighthearted in the slightest.
.Mafia is serious business. This post doesn't give me the feeling that she's looking for the bad guys.

Connie;2053331574']I am barely trying to find the scum? Pray tell good sir what efforts you have made besides jumping on a bandwagon of me with a fabricated claim which is a bigger scum tell this early in the game than a nonsensical silly vote. And then starting another bandwagon with no reasoning whatsoever?
Now she's serious! Yes, when she's being threatened with a lynch, she's serious. OMGUS and attacking people who suspects her, instead of trying to convince them of her innocence, and look for scum with good arguments. This is either hot scum sauce or someone who doesn't know how to defend as a townie. I'm willing to bet on the first possibility.

Because she only sees her aggressors as scummy, I don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys.

Connie;2053331923']Posting in the wrong account is scummy? To me it sounds like i misunderstood the whole anon account concept and thought we were creating actual new accounts.

Yeah i posted fail twice because if you notice i edited my posts. Edited posts can't be counted as votes. In the first i accidentally edited without thinking. In the second i accidentally messed up voting, i.e. forgetting something like a colon.

OMG really. First round votes are always ridiculous. I just found some silly fabricated reason for the first round vote everyone does that it isnt a scum tell. By not jumping on another players bandwagon i did something non scummy.

Early in game i choose a candidate that was lynched so did all the other people who voted for him. are all of these players scum as well?

Silly vote. what were your votes based off of before now? Hard cold evidence and logic. The basis of the Pedro vote for instance was so people got to make funny napoleon dynamite jokes. At this time in the phase it was still joke time since nobody knows anything.

OMG!!!!!! I talk more when fighting for my life. Everybody breaking news your not scum if you meekly go to your death..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can blame a bandwagoner who consistently tries to start bandwagons on you without any real strong evidence. And i am trying to find the scum quite a bit more than a large percentage of players in this game.

I am a bad townie? what were your contributions to the town.
More annoyed stuff from her, this time lashing at Visorslash, who we know is townie, since he was night killed. When someone is this annoyed at being voted for, there's something wrong. Just look at acin in ATPG Mafia II when he had early votes on him, he was all "I'm gonna drop this game, this and that....", very annoyed, because his goal was threatened. Happened in other games too, it's typical, I tell you. You don't see this as much from Town players, because their goal is not as much threatened, but still they will (should) try to convince people to unvote them. This previous post is just a big ball of annoyance, I'm not seeing any genuine argumentation with someone (Visorslash), who is known to be on Connie's side (if she's Town), which leads me to believe that she is not.

Connie;2053331926']Its a double edged sword. It gives us less time to get it right while giving a greater chance of getting it right as well as lessens the ability of the mafia to hide. Most people often lynch inactives to clear up the field so im not really sure why she is getting blasted for the idea.
Not sure what's the point of this comment, but I stiill don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys.

Connie;2053331927']Also this. Your the one ragging on Claudia for being lazy. Why don't you look it up yourself?
Annoyance again, tsk tsk. And sure, instead of helping, she lashes again at Visorslash, a known townie. I don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys from this post.

tldr:

If you read all my post, you should realize that one sentence often comes back, that's because it's the general feeling I got about Connie: I don't get the feeling she's looking for the bad guys. And that's why she has to be lynched.

[MAFIA] Ralph

06-23-2011, 07:02

Good one Bobby. How is Connie still alive?

vote: Connie

[MAFIA] Bruno

06-23-2011, 07:47

vote: Connie

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-23-2011, 11:09

Today seems bandwagon-happy. I'm busy atm, so I'll Vote:Connie - maybe later I have time to read the writeup in detail and so on.

Visor

06-23-2011, 11:20

Connie should have died last round.

GeneralHankerchief

06-23-2011, 11:36

Claudia's name has been removed from the "Still alive" list. Thanks for the catch!

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-23-2011, 13:06

Connie should have died last round.Yup. Thought so too.

Vote: Connie

Em out the rest of the phase, so im afraid i won't be able to answer any inquiries...

[MAFIA] Richie

06-23-2011, 14:51

Vote: Connie

Shameless bandwagon.
Sometimes its the most effective.

[MAFIA] Fat Tony

06-23-2011, 15:26

I don't think this sort of bandwagon is going to help us.

Vote: Frank

So we have someone else besides Connie with a couple votes. We should try to keep at least two candidates in the running.

[MAFIA] Vincent

06-23-2011, 15:37

vote:Connie The case on her has only gotten stronger.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-23-2011, 16:21

Scum.

Earthling

06-23-2011, 19:02

Guys, it's a really bad idea to go after Connie. If she is scum, and that's a big if, she'd easily incriminate herself later too, because you must assume she's been playing terribly. We're not learning anything from today's bandwagon otherwise.

None of the recent nightkills were to her advantage, in fact if Connie was scum she was absolutely suicidal, killing off townies who weren't against her for a couple of days when people from yesterday's wagon that WERE against her easily show up again today.

Connie looks like a frustrated townie.

On top of that, the kills look like a major switch up in strategy because we already caught or were close to catching one of the scum. It could be a bluff tactic from someone on no one's radar, that of course is easy, but I really doubt one of the actively suspected people in the past couple days carried out the last couple nights of nightkills. This is either purposeful by the scum because they knew you were after the wrong lynchees so didn't kill more active townies, or they just wanted general confusion as they are lurkers/under the radar themselves, but the kills don't match a desperation measure by Connie or someone like that, it's a bad case.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-23-2011, 19:14

Yo Earthling-ghost, how are the kills bein a switch in strategy? Serious question.

Here's why, despite the bandwagon bein stupid and useless (yo Vinny, how ya doin hangin out there in scum land?), suspectin Connie ain't:

Its a double edged sword. It gives us less time to get it right while giving a greater chance of getting it right as well as lessens the ability of the mafia to hide. Most people often lynch inactives to clear up the field so im not really sure why she is getting blasted for the idea.

That post there is bein way too sensible for a flighty gal like our Connie. Mask is slippin; she got brains in there somewhere. She want to live, she :daisy: oughta put em to use, know what I'm sayin?

An' I still want to know who "she" is, Connie. Only "she" in that conversation, aside of you, was Claudia, but it looks like you talkin about Bugsy. Was Bugsy was gettin the blastin, not Claudia.

[MAFIA] Johnny

06-23-2011, 20:18

So since my target is not alive after all, I'll unvote; vote: Connie

[MAFIA] Connie

06-23-2011, 20:19

So I defended Claudia? Ah no i didnt i simply said she wasn't scum. The again she wasn't since we still had two night kills last night. That tells me we killed the wrong person.

As for bobbys now third consecutive day he has voted for me. Out of what? 5 days....... so for all of those days he had a good solid case for me? No he is gunning for me based off of absolutely nothing. and every single time players follow him. And this is classic follow the wot. Y'all see a wall of text a "case" and decide that he must be right look at how much effort he put into it!!!! When in reality people often say a case is a load of bull. No this one is actually bull and heres why. He attacked my first round vote!!!!! Who does that? Who treats a first round vote seriously? He does the same with my second round vote. Once again who does that? Especially in a game where I unless i screamed in every post that I was the mafia he has no idea I was mafia. First and second round votes are nearly all facetious. Yet the sheepish town follows along this character meekly doing what he suggests to them. For what purpose what makes this guy so trustworthy? He claims he is doing so much for the town yet all he has done is start voting on me without a reason. If you ask me voting early on in the game without any reason but forcing there to be a reason is about as scummy as you can get. So I implore you town think before you vote for once or you will all be led astray by this character.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-23-2011, 22:24

This round contains fail.

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-23-2011, 23:37

Connie;2053332906']So I defended Claudia? Ah no i didnt i simply said she wasn't scum. The again she wasn't since we still had two night kills last night. That tells me we killed the wrong person.

The rules clearly state that once one of the Mafia is down the other one gets two night-kills and you know that. This sentence sounds awfully like you want to look as if you didn't even know the game mechanics, thus implying you're innocent.

As for bobbys now third consecutive day he has voted for me. Out of what? 5 days....... so for all of those days he had a good solid case for me? No he is gunning for me based off of absolutely nothing. and every single time players follow him. And this is classic follow the wot. Y'all see a wall of text a "case" and decide that he must be right look at how much effort he put into it!!!! When in reality people often say a case is a load of bull. No this one is actually bull and heres why. He attacked my first round vote!!!!! Who does that? Who treats a first round vote seriously? He does the same with my second round vote. Once again who does that? Especially in a game where I unless i screamed in every post that I was the mafia he has no idea I was mafia. First and second round votes are nearly all facetious. Yet the sheepish town follows along this character meekly doing what he suggests to them. For what purpose what makes this guy so trustworthy? He claims he is doing so much for the town yet all he has done is start voting on me without a reason. If you ask me voting early on in the game without any reason but forcing there to be a reason is about as scummy as you can get. So I implore you town think before you vote for once or you will all be led astray by this character.

Tell you what, after you're dead if there's still kills I'll give bobby my vote

[MAFIA] Salvatore

06-24-2011, 00:22

GeneralHankerchief

06-24-2011, 00:55

Voting closed.

Stand by for the execution.

GeneralHankerchief

06-24-2011, 01:14

Connie was in serious trouble.

After having narrowly escaped the lynch the previous day, this left her as the clear-cut favorite to receive the death sentence on Day 5. She smoked her trademark cigar - Cuban, of course - and tried to look impassive, realizing that new targets would present themselves as the day went on. They were five days in, after all, and during all five days new targets had popped up. They always did.

Connie puffed on her cigar, trying not to notice that the votes had started to pile up on her and were on the verge of becoming a full-fledged bandwagon.

Connie continued puffing on her cigar, perhaps even chomping on it a bit, as the votes continued to mount to the point where nobody could deny that she was in the process of receiving a good old-fashioned bandwagon.

Connie put away all pretenses of puffing and instead started chomping on her trademark cigar like there was no tomorrow - and for her, this was exactly the case - as the day grew short and the second place candidate was nowhere near her in votes.

Finally, mercifully, Chief of Police JuJuBee called an end to voting, just as Connie had finished her last cigar. Well, at least her timing was perfect in one regard.

"Okay Connie," JuJu said cheerfully, "looks like it's that time. However, I'm going to try something a bit different today. I noticed that you were smoking a lot of cigars while the voting went on today. Now, I don't know if you're aware of this fact, but smoking is bad for you! It causes lung cancer, heart disease, emphysema, and may complicate pregnancy. Plus, even if you don't smoke, secondhand smoke will still give you these nasty diseases, and it may even be more potent than if you actually smoke yourself! So don't smoke!"

Connie was nonplussed. "How is this going to help me minutes before I die?"

"Well," JuJu said, "I got a buddy of mine who works in a lab to design this prototype for me." The Chief of Police reached into his pocket and brought out an extremely large cigar. "I call this the SuperSmoker 5000, with all of the latest tobacco-related technology present in this handy, compact form. The SuperSmoker is so powerful, it's designed to pack 50 years of constant smoking at a rate of two packs a day into one single puff. So, Connie, if you would, please try out this wondrous piece of technology for all of us here."

Connie, a bit put off, shrugged. "This had better be some *#%! good tobacco," she muttered, and then took the overly-large cigar from JuJu. After lighting it, she lifted it to her mouth and inhaled.

Her lungs. They were on fire. This was no metaphor either, they were literally on fire. Even though there was absolutely nothing in the lungs or material that the lungs themselves were made of that could catch on fire, somehow this crazy cigar was able to break the laws of physics, at least in regards to combustion. Connie's screams started getting louder and more and more inhuman as the flames spread, and for the first time the villagers could notice that something was wrong, as Connie's shirt was now visibly burning and smoke was pouring out of her mouth, nostrils, ears, and probably other parts too, but nobody could see those.

Eventually the screaming stopped, as Connie no longer had lungs to scream with. She fell to the ground, writhing in pain, her skin turning a violent shade of orange as the fire inside of her spread. Everybody started murmuring in shock. There it was, it was a rumor that everybody had heard about over the years, but now it was undeniably true: Connie, better known as Centurion1, was undergoing spontaneous combustion.

Before long Connie was only a pile of ashes on the execution platform, and JuJuBee was on the phone with his buddy, saying that the SuperSmoker needed some adjusting.

Fredo and Pete have been replaced. Fredo was Greyblades, Pete was a completely inoffensive name. The identities of their replacements will remain a mystery.

Day 6 tally:
Connie: 10 (Bobby, Angelo, Ralph, Bruno, Bugsy, Luigi, Richie, Vincent, Johnny, Salvatore) :skull:
Frank: 3 (Anne, Sonny, Fat Tony)
Anne: 1 (Paulie)

Abstained: 1 (Connie)
Didn't vote: 7 (Bertha, Emilio, Frank, Fredo, Giorgio, Luciano, Pete)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (21)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Bugsy
Emilio
Fat Tony
Frank
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Paulie
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Salvatore
Sonny
Vincent

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)
Centurion1 (Connie)

Player list:
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Night 6! The phase will last for 24 hours.

[MAFIA] Connie

06-24-2011, 01:20

I hate all of you. Let's go mafia.

The rules clearly state that once one of the Mafia is down the other one gets two night-kills and you know that. This sentence sounds awfully like you want to look as if you didn't even know the game mechanics, thus implying you're innocent.

hmm...... maybe if you noticed i was actually clueless enough to create a whole other account before realizing what exactly the alt accounts we were using were. Maybe if you think about it its not so bizarre i didnt notice all that.

Poor lynch and typical lazy town this is a pretty bad case of the laze.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-24-2011, 03:53

Meh, at least there was an attempted case involved. Though the "me too" wagoners did kill discussion off.

GeneralHankerchief

06-24-2011, 12:15

The lynch scene has now been properly updated.

Earthling

06-24-2011, 22:40

Well I'm thinking Fredo and Pete are real goners, the scum can't allow nearly confirmed Innocents-through-replacements to be hanging around, that would put us at status quo for actual suspects and lynches again though, same as the past couple of days.

GeneralHankerchief

06-25-2011, 04:06

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. The reason for this quietness was because the mafioso had not revved up his chainsaw yet, a fact that he was about to change.

*BBBBRAPITA BBBBRAPITA BBBBRAPI-BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*

Salvatore, who was closest to the racket, awoke with a start, turning to open the window and yell out, but then he found out another unpleasant truth a second later - he physically could not move, as being tightly strapped into your bed with roughly an entire roll of duct tape keeping you down would be enough to do that to you. Grimacing, Salvatore wondered who had committed this childish prank on him over the night. Had he voted for anyone in the previous days who had taken it personally? Was it just someone screwing around?

In any case, Salvatore forgot all about the consistent sound of the chainsaw as he tried to shimmy out of his duct tape prison. Despite all of Salvatore's efforts, it had little effect. His hands were his first priority, obviously, and he went to work on them, moving, back and forth, trying desperately yet still deliberately to provide even more of a half an inch of breathing room for his wrists, would be enough for him to get his hands free. If his hands were free, then the rest of the escape would come easier.

Five extremely difficult minutes later, Salvatore finally provided himself enough space where his hands could be of some use to him. Salvatore took a breather, wondering who on earth hated him to much to tie him up like this over the night. It was a pretty elaborate prank, after all -

The house rumbled. Suddenly, Salvatore remembered the chainsaw. Was somebody - was somebody actually trying to cut the house down on him? Stupid stupid stupid, he knew he should have sprung for an actual foundation when he bought the place years ago instead of just buying wooden stilts. But hey, it was a lot cheaper, and the economy was a lot worse back then, and he was looking for a job anyway, and -

*rumble CRASH!!!* The mafioso had finished his work.

There was similar "renovation" work that was happening on the other side of town. Paulie, who lived by the seaside, was also woken by a very loud noise that signified work of the malicious sort being done on his house. Unlike Salvatore, however, Paulie did not have to be meticulously duct taped to his bed in order to for the work to be completed while uninterrupted. For while Salvatore's house was done in by a simple chainsaw, the forces against Paulie's house were three bulldozers, lined up side-by-side, collectively packing enough force to push Paulie's house straight into the sea.

As Paulie, unhurt but in utter shock, paddled around his increasingly-flooding house, trying to make sense of what exactly happened, he noticed a crash through the window. In his rather compact room - which was still open to the sky, thanks to the bulldozers - he finally got an answer in a seal, which swam up to his broken window and entered the "room".

The first thing that Paulie noticed was that the seal, while still cute and adorable, was wearing something odd. It almost seemed like a helmet, perhaps even with a radio transmitter on the top of it. This use of this transmitter had to be practical, as it certainly didn't make the seal animal beauty contest material (if there even *were* beauty contests for seals). The seal was also carrying something. When Paulie stopped dog-paddling (he had never learned how to swim properly), he saw what it was - a bottle of gasoline. The seal emptied it right on him, and then swam away.

Cursing, Paulie tried to struggle away, but it was a losing battle. Not only did his lack of swimming skill hinder him in this effort, but there was also simply too much rubble. The gasoline was not helping things, either. He "swam" for about two minutes, accomplishing nothing aside from tiring himself out. And then, he saw it. Up in the air. A seagull, also wearing one of the helmets with the antenna on it. Carrying a flaming torch. Right above him. Which the seagull dropped. Right on top of -

FOOM.

A few buildings away, the mafioso once again put away his radio-controlled device and walked away, chuckling.

Later that day, Chief of Police JuJuBee gathered everyone into the Frontroom square in order to make an announcement.

"Okay everyone," he said, "So it looks like we have two more deaths today. Salvatore, also known as Ashurnasirpal II, died when his house collapsed on him. Additionally, Paulie, who you know as B_Ray, died when, uh, *his* house collapsed on him and he was lit on fire. By, uh, a seal and a seagull. Yeah, I'm going to have to look into this. In the meantime, you guys all know what to do, so do it!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (20)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Bugsy
Connie
Emilio
Fat Tony
Frank
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Sonny
Vincent

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)
Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore)
B_Ray (Paulie)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)
Centurion1 (Connie)

Player list:
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Day 6! Voting will last for approximately 24 hours.

WOG Warning: Emilio, Frank, Luciano. PMs are going out now. I no longer have replacement players lined up either.

Centurion1

06-25-2011, 04:35

*cough* bobby. *cough* bertha. oddly silent last phase.

theres your scum yall.

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-25-2011, 04:55

*cough* bobby. *cough* bertha. oddly silent last phase.

theres your scum yall.
Which phase? The night phase?

It's useless to talk at night, here. Naming suspects will tip the mafia on who they should leave alive, and talking about your lynch has not much benefits as we don't know if you were mafia or not.

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-25-2011, 05:24

vote: Bruno

His contribution so far is very low, but is voting/posting enough to stay off the radar. His votes so far:

Bruno;2053326512']Oh.. Elections?!

I also support Pedro!

Vote: [Mafia] Pedro
Yay, no reason given.

Bruno;2053328313']Vote: Bertha
Idem.

Bruno;2053329616']Vote: Claudia

Looks like the game is so important that you have to check it using your phone. Centurion1 did the same thing and was caught..
Is aware of a "scumtell" here on the ORG, perhaps too concious about it. The reason isn't really a good one to vote someone, in my opinion, but I guess it's nice of him to give a reason, specially because I think this one makes him scummier.

Bruno;2053331853']Vote: Connie

Following Visorslash.
It's ticking me that he had to add "following Visorslash", kinda like washing his hands off this vote because a confirmed dead Townie is pushing for Connie.

Bruno;2053332669']vote: Connie
No reason given, is 4th on the Connie bandwagon. With the case I've made on Connie, it's too easy to just go "me too" and/or give no reason to vote for a popular candidate, but hey it's not enough for me. You gotta do your share of the work, find your reason to vote someone, or at least develop a little on why you think that player is suspicious. If you don't, it doesn't help the other Townies analyze if your vote is genuine or not.

Basically I'm voting Bruno for similar reasons I've voted Connie: He apparently not looking for scum, and that's gotta count for something. Either he's scum, or not worth keeping for the endgame since he ain't working the solution. I say let's get rid of him.

Centurion1

06-25-2011, 05:29

This is why all of you should vote bobby. His case seems to keep resounding around the fact of everyone who voted silly in early rounds. Nearly every pedro vote had a little joke attached there was no case on him nor could there be. End this farce now and stop this madness,

vote bobby for scum.

Vote: Claudia

Looks like the game is so important that you have to check it using your phone. Centurion1 did the same thing and was caught..

also yay for being known as a scumtell. Ironically it was nothing of the sort. I had dialup internet at the time and only access to a poorly located family computer. Otoh hand i had just got my droid phone which had far faster internet. So not a scumtell at all actually

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-25-2011, 05:51

Had I known who you were Centurion, I would have left you alone because you are not known for trying to find scum, or not much anyway, but I didn't have that information.

It might come as a surprise to you, but the mafia is rarely looking for scum, or appear to, and specially in an environment that doesn't punish lazyness, joke votes and "no reason given". If people think that pressuring other players to give reasons for their votes, and be more active, is a good reason to vote me, then I'll accept their decision.

It's however too bad that you decide to give reasons for your suspicions only after your death, or you possibly would still be alive, and you would have been more helpful to your team. As it is, you wrote "I hate you all. Let's go mafia!", you're suspecting people who voted for you, only because of it, and your alignment is unknown. Those are three good reasons why you should keep silent and why people shouldn't be listening to you.

I can put flowers on your grave, if it can help you rest in peace?

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-25-2011, 05:56

Promised.

vote: Bobby

Centurion1

06-25-2011, 06:01

Bobby;2053333482']Had I known who you were Centurion, I would have left you alone because you are not known for trying to find scum, or not much anyway, but I didn't have that information.

It might come as a surprise to you, but the mafia is rarely looking for scum, or appear to, and specially in an environment that doesn't punish lazyness, joke votes and "no reason given". If people think that pressuring other players to give reasons for their votes, and be more active, is a good reason to vote me, then I'll accept their decision.

It's however too bad that you decide to give reasons for your suspicions only after your death, or you possibly would still be alive, and you would have been more helpful to your team. As it is, you wrote "I hate you all. Let's go mafia!", you're suspecting people who voted for you, only because of it, and your alignment is unknown. Those are three good reasons why you should keep silent and why people shouldn't be listening to you.

I can put flowers on your grave, if it can help you rest in peace?

A. I presented my reasons. I posted who I believed were mafia. Simply because it was you doesn't mean it is not a contribution.
B. Don't be rude.
C. your attempts to silence me only present you in an increasingly negative light.
D. I gave plenty of suspicions, namely yourself. I backed those up with decently agreeable reasons. Your wall of text accusation regarding myself was unfounded and quite frankly bull.
E. WHAT ROUND WAS THE PEDRO VOTE. Who did you vote for? And finally, what were your reasons that you posted?

Had I known who you were Centurion, I would have left you alone because you are not known for trying to find scum, or not much anyway, but I didn't have that information.

Resulting to insults to silence an individual is in poor taste and deserves a lynch all of its own. It also signals scum to me at least.

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-25-2011, 06:10

Resulting to insults to silence an individual is in poor taste and deserves a lynch all of its own. It also signals scum to me at least.
I apologize if you feel insulted by what I wrote, but I was merely stating how I perceive your play style. Active/Lurker, Making cases/not looking for scum etc.. are play styles, none is clearly better as they all have advantages and drawbacks: I wasn't insulting you.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-25-2011, 07:00

Vote: Frank

He's still not dead, and this disturbs me.

[MAFIA] Ralph

06-25-2011, 08:15

Let's all just calm down and have fun, it sucks when you get lynched but you need to calm down Centurion1.

It's clear that the mafia are killing off inactive people, who might not vote but might pile in on a bandwagon.

night 1:Winston Hughes (Chickenman) 2 posts, 1 vote
robbiecon (Giuseppe) 0 posts, no vote

night 2:Visorslash (Maria) 4 posts, 2 votes
johnhughthom (Christopher) 7 posts, 2 votes

night 3:issaikhaan (Furio) 1 post, 1 vote
Death is yonder (Carlo) 3 posts, 1 vote

night 4:Seon (Fingers) 8 posts, 3 votes
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George) 3 posts, 1 vote

night 5:Earthling (Nick) 4 posts, 4 votes
Csargo (Mickey) 10 posts, 6 votes

night 6:Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore) 9 posts, 7 votes
B_Ray (Paulie) 11 posts, 6 votes
I am going to spoiler the above because it is just numbers, which are not really reliable.

Frank has made only 3 votes and 3 posts, which is the bare minimum to survive. That the point you trying to get across Anna? Vote:Frank

[MAFIA] Anne

06-25-2011, 08:24

Ralph;2053333519']Frank has made only 3 votes and 3 posts, which is the bare minimum to survive. That the point you trying to get across Anna? Vote:Frank

I could reveal the questionable and laughable methods I used to arrive at his name. Given how early in the game I picked him out, I can't say for sure he's guilty. But, he's certainly been unresponsive to my votes, after being semi-active in the beginning. I want to see what happens if we string him up by his toes. Will he sing like a canary, or will he go quietly into the night?

[MAFIA] Ralph

06-25-2011, 08:37

Anne;2053333524']I can't say for sure he's guilty.
Not exactly what I would call a good case.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-25-2011, 08:45

Ralph;2053333529']Not exactly what I would call a good case.

I could argue until I'm even grayer in the face, it won't make him any more or less guilty. Give me a ring whenever any of you are certain someone is guilty, by the way. Anyone who is certain is either a liar, a mafia goon, or a fool.

[MAFIA] Ralph

06-25-2011, 09:08

I said a "good case" not that he was a "100% Mafia scum guaranteed by Anna".

I even had to fish out why he was so suspicious, but I well admit it looks bad for Frank.

[MAFIA] Luciano

06-25-2011, 12:51

Vote: Ralph

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-25-2011, 13:08

vote: Frank

An I think the resta you goombas oughta too.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-25-2011, 13:21

Anne;2053333524']I could reveal the questionable and laughable methods I used to arrive at his name. Given how early in the game I picked him out, I can't say for sure he's guilty. But, he's certainly been unresponsive to my votes, after being semi-active in the beginning. I want to see what happens if we string him up by his toes. Will he sing like a canary, or will he go quietly into the night?

Anne is Pizza ? :stare:

Ho-hum. For now, I think I'll avoid an unduly bandwagon on Frank, even if he's an okay lynch. Vote: Vincent

[MAFIA] Bruno

06-25-2011, 13:34

Bobby;2053333474']vote: Bruno

His contribution so far is very low, but is voting/posting enough to stay off the radar. His votes so far:

Yay, no reason given.

Idem.

Is aware of a "scumtell" here on the ORG, perhaps too concious about it. The reason isn't really a good one to vote someone, in my opinion, but I guess it's nice of him to give a reason, specially because I think this one makes him scummier.

It's ticking me that he had to add "following Visorslash", kinda like washing his hands off this vote because a confirmed dead Townie is pushing for Connie.

No reason given, is 4th on the Connie bandwagon. With the case I've made on Connie, it's too easy to just go "me too" and/or give no reason to vote for a popular candidate, but hey it's not enough for me. You gotta do your share of the work, find your reason to vote someone, or at least develop a little on why you think that player is suspicious. If you don't, it doesn't help the other Townies analyze if your vote is genuine or not.

Basically I'm voting Bruno for similar reasons I've voted Connie: He apparently not looking for scum, and that's gotta count for something. Either he's scum, or not worth keeping for the endgame since he ain't working the solution. I say let's get rid of him.

You can find scum in different ways, my young Padawan. ~;)

GeneralHankerchief - Centurion1 (Connie) is not mentioned in the executed list.

[MAFIA] Richie

06-25-2011, 13:43

Sonny;2053333591']vote: Frank

An I think the resta you goombas oughta too.

Explain why please

Centurion1

06-25-2011, 15:17

Ralph;2053333519']Let's all just calm down and have fun, it sucks when you get lynched but you need to calm down Centurion1.

It's clear that the mafia are killing off inactive people, who might not vote but might pile in on a bandwagon.

night 1:Winston Hughes (Chickenman) 2 posts, 1 vote
robbiecon (Giuseppe) 0 posts, no vote

night 2:Visorslash (Maria) 4 posts, 2 votes
johnhughthom (Christopher) 7 posts, 2 votes

night 3:issaikhaan (Furio) 1 post, 1 vote
Death is yonder (Carlo) 3 posts, 1 vote

night 4:Seon (Fingers) 8 posts, 3 votes
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George) 3 posts, 1 vote

night 5:Earthling (Nick) 4 posts, 4 votes
Csargo (Mickey) 10 posts, 6 votes

night 6:Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore) 9 posts, 7 votes
B_Ray (Paulie) 11 posts, 6 votes
I am going to spoiler the above because it is just numbers, which are not really reliable.

Frank has made only 3 votes and 3 posts, which is the bare minimum to survive. That the point you trying to get across Anna? Vote:Frank

Uh yeah im fine. My posts aren't even angry. If anyone is angry its bobby. Also bobby why dont you answer the question i posed you?

Earthling

06-25-2011, 15:54

Frank will be WoG'd away or if not then tomorrow he is a good lynch. Worth waiting a day really.

I think the living should take a good look at Luigi.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-25-2011, 16:43

Frank will be WoG'd away or if not then tomorrow he is a good lynch. Worth waiting a day really.

I think the living should take a good look at Luigi.

I agree. I just looked up his 11 replies in the thread and they aren't too impressing. He's primarily voted on bandwagons and talked nonsense about male/female roles and "posted from mobile device"-stuff. FoS: Luigi

[MAFIA] Anne

06-25-2011, 16:44

Frank will be WoG'd away or if not then tomorrow he is a good lynch.

Except GH has never mentioned his name as WoG material, and he was voting for three days in a row, going silent only when I voted for him.

So, a Frank lynch is getting rid of someone who is either ducking the thread on purpose, or someone who will be wogged anyway eventually, but not right now; and if he's scum, letting him run amok in silence isn't my idea of a good plan.

People respond to pressure or they die. That's how I look at it. There are two rules that I live by:

1) No lurker victories
2) No lurker victories

[MAFIA] Emilio

06-25-2011, 17:16

Vote: Frank. Thank you for the reminder. I will try to get more involved in this game from now on.

[MAFIA] Anne

06-25-2011, 17:30

Emilio;2053333700']Vote: Frank. Thank you for the reminder. I will try to get more involved in this game from now on.

May I ask why you weren't before?

It's not inconceivable that a scumbag could decide to flirt with a WoG to make it seem like they're too inactive to be mafia. It's a strategy, designed to misdirect.

Missing large portions of the opening game doesn't make you scum, but it is one path that a scum might choose to avoid being lynched for 5-6 rounds. An explanation would be nice.

[MAFIA] Pete

06-25-2011, 18:01

Bugsy;2053333686']FoS: Luigi

Why point the finger at this stage and not actually throw a vote out there? What is there to lose from a little more pressure?

It could just be that the bandwagons and such are a typical facet of this person's playstyle, but the anonymity of these accounts makes it difficult to ascertain; I think I'd like to hear something more constructive from dear Luigi.

vote: Luigi

[MAFIA] Fat Tony

06-25-2011, 18:12

Vote: Bobby

I've had a bad feeling about him ever since this post:

You cannot use our fake account names to draw conclusions about who could be mafia, they're just account names. This would be like drawing the same conclusions in a non-anonymous game, figuring that one of the few females we have around, would be mafia. Doesn't work, sorry.

vote: Connie

However I like who you are voting for. Scum sauce and salsa, surely a good candidate.

He disagrees with the reasoning for voting someone, then votes for them anyway with no reasoning.

And centurion is correct; a great deal of the votes for pedro were based on jokes.

[MAFIA] Bruno

06-25-2011, 18:34

Anne;2053333687']There are two rules that I live by:

1) No lurker victories
2) No lurker victories

Good rules.

Vote: Frank

[MAFIA] Ralph

06-25-2011, 18:45

Anne;2053333687']
1) No lurker victories
2) No lurker victories I get the feeling it also includes town, not just mafia for you.

I hope your not mafia, because it would be a lot of trouble trying to lynch you.

GeneralHankerchief

06-25-2011, 18:52

Bruno;2053333604']GeneralHankerchief - Centurion1 (Connie) is not mentioned in the executed list.

Ugh, I could have sworn I put it there too. Updated. :wall:

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-25-2011, 19:19

Pete;2053333721']Why point the finger at this stage and not actually throw a vote out there? What is there to lose from a little more pressure?

It could just be that the bandwagons and such are a typical facet of this person's playstyle, but the anonymity of these accounts makes it difficult to ascertain; I think I'd like to hear something more constructive from dear Luigi.

Because, unfair as it seems, I only have one vote, currently placed with Vincent.

Ashurnasirpal II

06-25-2011, 19:41

I'm kinda new to these forums, so maybe this whole "inactive, lurking players are mafia" is all good and true here, but in my experience, mafia tend to be very active, pointing fingers all over the place, jumping on or creating bandwagons and warning against them at the same time, making bad cases on about people who don't defend themselves and generally speaking, being very loud about people who aren't active, making for easier lynching of anyone but them.

I'm always wary of those who are too loud about something or just trying too hard.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-25-2011, 20:26

Annie, Frankie did get a WOG warnin, just this mornin. No hard feelins, but he really oughta be left to rot.

unvote, vote: Luigi

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-25-2011, 20:27

Centurion, I aksed you a question too. Two times, doll.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-25-2011, 20:29

An hey Bugsy, now a vote on Luigi might do somethin useful.

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-25-2011, 20:29

Bugsy;2053333686']I agree. I just looked up his 11 replies in the thread and they aren't too impressing. He's primarily voted on bandwagons and talked nonsense about male/female roles and "posted from mobile device"-stuff. FoS: LuigiInteresting. Perhaps you should point out examples of 'impressing' posts that have been made in this game so far, that has helped point out real scum.

And bandwagons? The only time I've been part of something that can legitimately called a bandwagon, was Connie's (revealed to be Centurion1) demise. And since I've voted for her the previous day twice (including the extension), I doubt you'd call that blatantly joining one w/o showing any reason.

(edit: anyone do feel free of assessing my activity/voting record and not simply assuming what he said as to be true. Besides, I did admit my assumption about possible mafia gender roles does not hold solid ground, and did not further pursue the case w/ posts made via mobile device )

Dear Bugsy, you certainly should put more effort in assessing someone's activity, instead posting a really half-a$$ed one. The way I see it, a) you did not take this seriously at all, and hastily at that; b) Trying to place false suspicion on someone, then washing your hands off the case by merely casting a FOS c) make yourself look good by jumping on a dead townie's uncertainty about someone ( Earthling's, which I believe is not even of scum suspicion).

Vote: Bugsy

Centurion1

06-25-2011, 21:01

Sonny;2053333778']Centurion, I aksed you a question too. Two times, doll.

Thats ******* weird dont call me that.

its irrelevant sinc ei am dead. bobby isn't. So convenient he has disappeared. Fire getting a little too hot?

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-25-2011, 21:03

It's a simple question, Connie doll, an you ain't no known townie. You wanna answer?

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-25-2011, 21:06

What Bugsy said is true, Luigi.

Day One -- Bugsy
Day Two -- no vote
Day Three -- Pedro
Day Four -- Connie
Day Five -- Connie

Don't mean he ain't scum, don't mean you are. But he's right.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-25-2011, 21:09

Luigi;2053333783']Interesting. Perhaps you should point out examples of 'impressing' posts that have been made in this game so far, that has helped point out real scum.

There are no post-mortem reveals. So we don't know if we've caught any scum yet. That makes what you ask a hard task...

And bandwagons? The only time I've been part of something that can legitimately called a bandwagon, was Connie's (revealed to be Centurion1) demise, but then again I've voted for her the previous day twice (including the extension). I doubt you'd call that blatantly joining one w/o showing any reason.

I wouldn't call it that and I didn't. I said your votes were primarily on bandwagons because that is the case. As far as I recall, your votes have always been on the person who hung, bandwagon or no.

Dear Bugsy, you certainly should put more effort in assessing someone's activity, instead posting a really half-a$$ed one. The way I see it, you're just a) you did not take this seriously at all; b) Trying to place false suspicion on someone, then washing your hands off the case by merely casting a FOS c) make yourself look good by supporting a dead townie's uncertainty about someone.

I'll put more effort into it later, then. Adressing your points; a) I take the game as seriously as I think is appropriate. That means I'm trying to win - and trying to have fun. b) I am not placing false suspicion on anyone; If I have more suspects than I have votes, isn't that evidence that I am not afraid of declaring my very real suspicion of multiple players? I think I'm the only one who's used the FoS in this game so far. c) I want to look innocent, as would anyone playing, townie or not. And yes, the support of a confirmed innocent is kind of comforting; it means I'm on the right track (or at least that I'm not alone in my suspicions).

So. unvote, Vote:Luigi. You're squirming, so I'm putting my vote where it counts.

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-25-2011, 21:13

Really? I think you made a mistake there, Sonny.

D1 -- Bugsy (only vote that round)-ext -- Pedro (executed)
D2 -- n/a
D3 -- Connie (of 2 total)
D4 -- n/a--------------------------ext -- Connie
D5 -- Connie (executed)

I'd think extensions don't really count as bandwagons. D5 I didn't just 'jumped in' to the bandwagon out of nowhere, I've had suspicions on Connie way before that, just because a few got their votes in first, does not mean mine's anything more that a bandwagoner

Bugsy;2053333792']There are no post-mortem reveals. So we don't know if we've caught any scum yet. That makes what you ask a hard task... Exactly. That’s why claiming my posts are not ‘impressing,’ when none of the others could be called ‘impressing’ either, I found hilarious

Bugsy;2053333792']

I wouldn't call it that and I didn't. I said your votes were primarily on bandwagons because that is the case. As far as I recall, your votes have always been on the person who hung, bandwagon or no. FALSE. Look above. Day 1 on Pedro is not even worth mentioning

Bugsy;2053333792']c) I want to look innocent, as would anyone playing, townie or not. And yes, the support of a confirmed innocent is kind of comforting; it means I'm on the right track (or at least that I'm not alone in my suspicions).Don't twist it. I don't remember you posting any suspicions about me prior to Earthling's inquiry. You've had none to begin w/. So I don't think he's supporting you at all. The way I saw it, you jumped into Earthling's inquiry, made a case out of it (of w/c I found very weak), hoping to get on his good graces and make you look good to the rest.

[MAFIA] Sonny

06-25-2011, 21:41

Luigi, you right, I'm wrong, I ain't sayin that again jus so's you know.

unvote, vote: Bugsy

Bugsy;2053331284']I know I'm pointing right back at my accusers here, but Richie and Johnny should really pick up their reasoning. They have both just inquired (publically) about some aspect of the rules that should be obvious, trying to play the fool. Then, they go on to suggest that because Claudia voted for me (as she's also doing now, I see - interesting!), she's unlikely to be my scum partner.

Well that last bit seems true, since I ain't Mafia. Claudia, however, I have my doubts about.

Now, looking at a tally (spoilered below), I can see that I'm tied with Vincent at three votes. Nobody's currently voting Claudia, Richie or Johnny, which would be my picks, so I'm going to hope this trend can be turned around if I Vote:Claudia. But if it remains tied at the end of the day, I'm going to save my own hide. Just saying.
Johnny: Bugsy
Richie: Bugsy
Paulie: Anne
Sonny: Vincent
Salvatore: Vincent
Anne: Frank
Claudia: Bugsy
Angelo: Vincent
Bobby: Connie
Bertha: Connie

Bugsy;2053331314']The part you underlined was what caught me as well; It goes by the assumption that "Claudia and Bugsy are mafioso", using it to prove "Claudia is not mafia". That is self-contradiction, logically speaking. It confused me more than anything else. I'd say Johnny is either cooking up a bogus case, or needs to elaborate and explain what he actually meant by it; the way it stands now, it doesn't make sense (to me at least). I'm not saying Johnny's bad (or incomplete) reasoning means he's scum, that's unlikely, but the people who decide to trust in such thin reasoning seem to be as people looking for an easy bandwawgon to jump onto.

Check out the underlinin. You gettin careless with your "suspicions" there, Bugs, now maybe that's understandable your neck bein on the line an all, but you'd think you could remember if Johnny needs votin for or not from one moment to the next. You flailin, Bugsy.

Richie (and Johnny) still alive today, you know. You coulda voted for either one, but you don't. You vote Vincent (my suspect) and Luigi (Earthling's). Lookin to blow smoke up some townies hind ends, eh Bugs.

[MAFIA] Bugsy

06-25-2011, 21:52

Yes, I jumped on the suggestion of a proven innocent to look at you and it looked bad enough that I voted you. Is that really suspicious?

Sonny, I'm keeping my suspects in mind, but as it was said earlier, today a vote against Luigi actually matters, whereas another vote for a candidate nobody else votes isn't going to accomplish anything. I'm still suspicious of Richie, but he's so silent he might be WoGbait soon. No, I'm not trying to lick up to others, I'm trying to lynch a suspect. If I wanted to brown-nose, I'd keep quiet and vote Frank. I didn't.

Also, Luigi, I noticed the crosspost, and the first day one vote seems to be the only thing I was wrong about. I agree that extensions aren't really bandwagons per se, but your votes have still been rather uncommitted. If you actually manage to lynch me today, your votes are going to be purely against dead people, as I said. Also, your last post seems more than a little rhetorical, yelling "false" at a quote where only part of it (the underlined part) is false.

[MAFIA] Angelo

06-25-2011, 23:07

unvote, vote: Bugsy

Tsk, tsk, tsk, the thing about forgetting who your suspects were doesn't really help your case... didn't you read the rule about keeping tabs of your lies in a notepad?

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-25-2011, 23:07

Bugsy;2053333804'] Yes, I jumped on the suggestion of a proven innocent to look at you and it looked bad enough that I voted you. Is that really suspicious? If you bring up a weak/shallow case , it is. (w/c I think yours is)

Bugsy;2053333804']I agree that extensions aren't really bandwagons per se, but your votes have still been rather uncommitted. If you actually manage to lynch me today, your votes are going to be purely against dead people, as I said. So much for me being Uncommitted to my suspicions. I try to pursue those who I have an inkling to be suspicious, and let it out in the open (when necessary) to be picked apart to see if it is worth pursuing. There will be blood in my hands, but it can’t be helped really, esp if there’s no confirmation of scum when lynched. Have you been committed to your suspicions?
Bugsy;2053333792'] I'm still suspicious of Richie, but he's so silent he might be WoGbait soon.
Bugsy;2053333597']Ho-hum. For now, I think I'll avoid an unduly bandwagon on Frank, even if he's an okay lynch. Vote: Vincent
So you say he's worth pursuing but you'd rather stay away & not get attention. Then vote Vincent (whom you've never voted before) w/o adding your reasoning, instead of someone you may have pointed suspicion on in the earlier rounds
I’d say you’re way more uncommitted than I am.

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-25-2011, 23:10

Uh yeah im fine. My posts aren't even angry. If anyone is angry its bobby. Also bobby why dont you answer the question i posed you?
Angry, why would I be angry? I lynched my top suspect yesterday. :party2:

Answer which question? Feel free to ask it again, but if you refer to the question about when your pedro vote was, and what I did on the same day. I could answer you, but
1) Your alignment is unknown, why should I bother?
2) You can look it up yourself, why should *I* bother?

If you want to make a case on me, don't expect me to look up the facts for you. I know that you're just looking for some reason to point your finger even more at me, and I prefer to be looking at my actual suspects if you don't mind.

[MAFIA] Bobby

06-25-2011, 23:24

unvote; vote: Bugsy

I'm agreeing with Sonny, that the contradiction he outlined is suspicious, and it happened within less than one hour. I can't explain how Bugsy's point of view can change this quickly, without any mention of it in the game thread, unless he's one of the bad guys and is faking suspicions.

Earthling

06-25-2011, 23:29

oh Luigi that's a laughably scummy defense. Either really poor, or you're actually scum, but you're straight out OMGUSing Bugsy this whole way.

Furthermore Luigi makes a lot of sense to me as someone who could be responsible for the nightkills so far. The fact that he attacked Bugsy for following me rather than attacking me is funny, but I'd already looked over his posts myself and it's pretty much what Bugsy said. Bugsy would have to be trying really really hard as a scum to come up with a summary of everything that sounds exactly what a townie would say from a townie perspective.

It was certainly helpful for the recent post summarizing the kills and I'm thankful for that but I don't fully agree with the reasoning that it was just for postcount/inactivity. It seems quite clear to me that the scum killed people who
a) were not obsessively pursuing a case against someone else. (Like Anne vs. Frank or those vs. Vincent. If all involved are Innocent, the scum could just sit back and let townies hack away at each other...probably what happened)
b) were still active enough to be likely to vote and pursue other suspects, possibly catching the scum.

Regarding me personally I highly doubt I was murdered by someone I would have already supported or believed was a townie and made that clear, that's just suicidal by the scum just as I said yesterday with Connie. That does leave plenty of candidates of course, I can't say it's just Luigi, there are still Richie, Ralph, a bunch of others who seem to be just lurking-but-active-enough to be scum or a random surprise. But don't follow the OMGUS votes on Bugys guys.

Luigi really is in a good situation to meet all of these scum criteria though and look how scummy his defense is, huge jump in activity and posting tons of quotes to try to prove his case by attacking his accuser without addressing the points against him. He doesn't defend his bandwagonning or promise to reform his ways to contribute more to a town, his first resort is calling Bugsy a liar.

Centurion1

06-26-2011, 00:13

Fine then.

First vote.
Big George.
Reason, none given.

Vote two.
Luciano
No reason given

Vote three
voted Joe

Reason? "My flair is telling me he's our guy."

Vote four
Me
Reason: It appears that while bobby disagrees with the initial reasoning he sees this as no reason to not vote me! Fantastic logic. Also an incredibly flippant vote.

So bobby here is a question i cannot look up. Why are flippant votes okay when they come from you? Also why do you jump so quickly from your first accusation this round to vote on the bandwagon?

1) Your alignment is unknown, why should I bother?

Classic attempt to cast a negative light on the accuser. you are of far more questionable alignment. Furthermore your alignment is far more important.

[MAFIA] Luigi

06-26-2011, 00:21

Oh, man... seriously?

Is it scummy if I attempt to disprove what i feel are wrong accusations made against me?
Is it scummy if I feel alarmed that people just started voting for me w/o confirming said wrong accusations? I do feel that i've addressed them properly so far.
Am I scummy if I place suspicion and vote against someone trying to frame me? I don't think that's even an OMGUS vote.
Did you accuse me of anything prior to your last post? You didn't. Why would I even attack you at all? All I read is you not knowing what to think of me.
Why would you find it funny that I didn't attack you, Eartling, & rather Bugsy? There's no debate what role you had. You were killed at night.

[MAFIA] Richie

06-26-2011, 02:59

I've done everything that Luigi did with less activity and contribution. Yet I'm innocent.
I should be getting votes on me. Those voting for Luigi isn't doing a good job.
I don't feel like voting for Luigi.

I'll go with Bugsy

Vote: Bugsy

[MAFIA] Anne

06-26-2011, 03:10

Guess I did miss the WOG warning. I hope he gets it too. If he shows up to avoid the WOG, I'm going to personally gun him down myself.

unvote: Frank
vote: Luigi

Seems a bit flinchy under pressure.

GeneralHankerchief

06-26-2011, 04:30

Voting closed.

Stand by for the execution.

GeneralHankerchief

06-26-2011, 05:09

Day 6 in the Kingdom of Peace and Love and things were getting personal. People who had laid out cases against each other a few days prior were starting to shout more and gesticulate in order to be heard, and once that was accomplished, listened to. Insults and accusations, this time more serious than the ones that had come before, were being thrown around more readily. Finally, one or two people started yelling at nothing, almost as if picking a fight with the air.

This was the scene that Chief of Police JuJuBee presided over on Day 6.

The list of viable candidates for execution flew back and forth as the day progressed, but by the end of things there were two: Frank, who hadn't done much of anything over the past few days, and Bugsy, who had laid out numerous cases and even gotten a person or two lynched, and the living players were now turning on him. Bugsy, for his part, tried to mount a defense, giving and explanation of his actions and offering an alternative lynch candidate, with persuasive statements to back it up. Frank just sat motionless in his lawn chair.

As the sun began to disappear over the horizon, the increasingly-desperate Bugsy continued to talk away, hammering home his points with the same rigor as he had always done, although with maybe a bit more of an edge in his voice than he had ever done before. Clearly, this man did not want to die and he was laying it all out on the line for the villagers in what was perhaps his final hour on earth.

Frank just sat motionless in his lawn chair.

The sun set for good, and Bugsy, fresh off the last one of his speeches which did absolutely no good, slumped his shoulders in final defeat. He had kept a running tally of the day, a telling sign of his overall involvement and investment in the situation, and knew the score. He was down for the count. Bugsy, resigned to his fate, mounted the execution platform, prepared to face whatever means of execution the Chief of Police provided for him with dignity.

Frank just sat motionless in his chair.

The villagers observed Bugsy's execution with mixed reactions. He had gotten the most votes, yes, but it wasn't by much, and Bugsy did have his share of fans, if not followers, that had tried to defend him over the day. Many of them pondered this new change in direction for the Frontroom's villagers and how Bugsy's absence would affect future lynch proceedings, if indeed there were to be any. That was the effect Bugsy had on you, after all. His presence had galvanized the Frontroom and gotten everybody more involved, and if not that than it had least gotten them thinking. That presence would be there no longer.

Frank just sat motionless in his chair.

As JuJuBee cleared away the body of Bugsy, also known as Diamondeye, everybody began clearing out of the Frontroom square and returned to their homes for what would be another sleepless night. Everybody except Frank, of course, who remained motionless in his chair. It had turned out after all that Frank had actually died two days ago, passing away quietly, and it was just that nobody had noticed.

As the twilight expired and darkness fell over the Frontroom square, only the corpse of Frank, also known as spL1tp3r50naL1ty
remained. Well, Frank and the flies, of course.

Day 6 tally:
Bugsy: 5 (Luigi, Sonny, Angelo, Bobby, Richie) :skull:
Frank: 3 (Ralph, Emilio, Bruno) :skull:
Luigi: 3 (Pete, Anne, Bugsy)
Bobby: 1 (Fat Tony)
Ralph: 1 (Luciano)

Didn't vote: 6 (Bertha, Frank, Fredo, Giorgio, Johnny, Vincent)

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Still alive: (17)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Emilio
Fat Tony
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Sonny
Vincent

Wrath of God:
spL1tp3r50naL1ty (Frank)

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)
Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore)
B_Ray (Paulie)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)
Centurion1 (Connie)
Diamondeye (Bugsy)

Player list:
Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Night 7! Due to my work schedule, the round will last for 30 hours as opposed to the usual 24.