Royal Treasury

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This thread exists primarily as an easy reference for the Royal Treasurer and where he should post seasonal incomes of all Players. If you have selected Sea Trade option for your income, please post at the start of each year your preferred trade route. You cannot have both estates and sea trade!

Estates:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/estates269.jpg
1. Alexandros Thraikikos
2. Euergetes Ptolemaios
3. Ankwennefer Philometor
4. Meleagros Ptolemaios
5. Satyrion Limyraios
6. Leontiskos Thraikikos
7. Kydrogenes Epiphanes
8. Zoarchos Helios
9. Timon Arrhidaeos

Here is the list of action you can do with Personal funds:
Basic Income Sources

Estate
Cost: 2000 mnai + Recruitment cost of supervisors
(Supervisors - Either skirmishers, archers or slingers who are needed to keep the fort disappearing)
Income: settlement taxes + farming income
Misc:
1) Can only be built in Homeland territories with Type 1 government.
2) Cannot be built by the Clients.
3) If the fort is left ungarrisoned and it disappears then person who lost it must pay another 2000 mnai to rebuild it.
4) If there are Brigands in the same province as Estate then it will get 50% income penalty.
5) If Enemy army is in the same province as Estate then it will get 75% income penalty.
6) Supervisors are considered Private units.
7) Only one unit is considered Supervisors.
8) Only 1 Estate per person is allowed.

Sea trade
Cost: 500 mnai per cargo ship
Income: Export + Import of a trade route.
Misc:
1) Ship owners must at the start of each year declare in a Royal Treasury thread that they have signed a trade contract.
2) Trade Contract - Player must choose Home and Target ports.
3) Players can have only one trade route at the time.
4) Each Player can have maximum of 15 ships.
5) Each ship have upkeep cost of 50 mnai.
6) If there are Pirates close to the Home/Target port then there will be 50% Income penalty.
7) If Pirates or Enemy fleet blockades Home/Target port then there will be 100% Income penalty and the possibility to loose ships.
8) If players have not signed a trade contract then they don't pay the upkeep of the cargo ships until they sign one again.

Loot from Battles
Cost: n/a
Income: The number of enemies / 2
Misc:
1) Battles against Brigands do not give Loot.
2) If enemy settlement is conquered then the general who captured it will receive the Loot(how much is gained depends whether Occupy, Expel or Enslave was chosen).


Other Income Sources

Corruption
Income: Corruption penalty from the Settlements Details
Misc:
1) Only for Officials.
2) Must be present in the city.
3) Will be automatically transferred to the Hidden Account.
4) Player who wants to use this option should PM Ibn-Khaldun.

Expenditures

Anonymous Messengers
Cost: 50 per message
Misc:
1) If Player want's to send an anonymous message to another Player then he should PM his text to Ibn-Khaldun who will then forward it to the right person.
2) The Person who received the message can reply without paying anything.

Fiddle with the votes
Cost: 500 mnai
Misc:
1) During voting period Players can PM Ibn-Khaldun and ask to increase/lower Influence of another Player. Influence can not go lower than 1!
2) Players can use this power also on themselves.
3) This can be used only once during voting period!

Assassination attempt
Cost: 1000 mnai
Misc:
1) No, you can't kill another avatar this way!
2) The success depends on the traits and ancillaries of the target.
3) If succsessful, then the target cannot move during the next turn.
4) Teleporting option cannot be used if the attempt was succssessful.

Other

Hidden Accounts
Misc:
1) Can be used once a year(4 turns).
2) Player should PM Ibn-Khaldun and say how much mnai he wants to hide.
3) Hidden mnai can be used the same way as unhidden one.
4) Players can't hide more than 1000 mnai per year.

Slave Trader
Misc:
1) Every Player can buy whatever retinue member/item that other Players have transferred to the "Slave trader"(Rule 2.3).
2) Each of these retinue mebers/items cost 100 mnai.

Here are the starting mnai for every player:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/269income.jpg
Skullheadhq have also 3000 mnai.

[Myth]

I wish to establish an estate in Alexandria (because it's the capital and the farming rate is 1.5) If the region matters but the exact spot does not, I'd put it where there is the least chance of an enemy army stepping on it. I think this would be a good spot:

https://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8856/rometw2011061213384626.jpg

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And who will be supervisors in your estate?
(OOC: Please choose a unit who will stay in the fort: Akontistai, Toxotai or Sphendonetai)

[LeoCordis]

I would also wish to create an estate in Alexandria, possibly near the coast to avoid any bandits and enemy armies.

A unit of toxotai will suffice for my supervisors.

[Visor]

I would request also, an estate in Alexandria. The position should be along the coast as well if possible, but anywhere will do. And I will choose Akontistai to supervise.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

I would request an estate in Alexandria, at the extremity of the road going down to Memphis, with a unit of Toxotai as the supervisors.

[GenosseGeneral]

I would also request an estate somewhere in the Delta, supervised by a unit of toxotai.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

No more estates can be built in the Delta region. The only option now is near Memphis.

[Myth]

A unit of toxotai should suffice for that province. May the royal treasurer provide me and the other generals with some information as to how much income can be expected per season from one's estate, and how much income can one expect from four trading ships, on average?

[The Celtic Viking]

I will, if I'm allowed, build two estates in Memphis, one in the corner created by the nile just south of Memphis, and the other on the south side of that corner. One unit of sphendonetai for each as supervisors.

I will also build 1 cargo ship and please take the trade route between Alexandreia and Salamis.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I will use Alexandreia as an example. The income will increase in time due to population growth and the tax level of the settlement also has an effect on the income. So, currently you get 1775 mnai from estate.
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/532estate.jpg
Income from farms + Taxes = 350 + 1425 = 1775 mnai

The important part of the equation that determines the mnai gained from trade is the trade route.
I again use Alexandreia as an example. If you have set the trade route between Alexandreia(home port) and Diospolis Megale(target port) then the income from one ship would be 173 mnai. That's not much. Barely covers the upkeep of the ship. With four ships you get 692 mnai. However, if you use 10 ships you might get 1730 mnai.
Some trade routes are more valuable than others. So, if you instead set the trade route between Alexandreia and Salamis you will get 263 mnai with just one ship! with 10 ships it's 2630 mnai! That is more mnai than the estates could ever produce!

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/472trade.jpg
Trade route between Alexandreia and Diospolis Megale
Export + Import = 152 + 21 = 173 mnai

OOC: The home port is always the settlement from whose details this information is taken.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I will, if I'm allowed, build two estates in Memphis, one in the corner created by the nile just south of Memphis, and the other on the south side of that corner. One unit of sphendonetai for each as supervisors.

I will also build 1 cargo ship and please take the trade route between Alexandreia and Salamis.

Unfortunatelly, dear Basileus, you can't have both trade ships and an estate. Also, only one estate is allowed per province per person. You could ask someone to swap their place in the Delta region.

OOC: You can have one estate near Alexandreia and another one near Memphis but you can not have 2 estates in the same province.

[The Celtic Viking]

I understand. (OOC: It also dawns on me now that I couldn't afford two estates with sphendons. Two with toxotai, though...)

However, I shall instead put 5000 on creating 10 ships for the trade route between Alexandreia and Salamis.

[johnhughthom]

edit: Clearly didn't read the rules.

[The Celtic Viking]

*Cough* You're making the same mistake as I made before, Leontiskos. You must choose between either the estate or the ships; you cannot have both.

[johnhughthom]

OOC: I-K, Triereis cost 5500 to build, over three turns. Would it be possible for a player to build them out of personal funds and pay, say 1500 the first year and 2000 in the second and third turns? That's actually probably more realistic than paying everything upfront.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I-K, Triereis cost 5500 to build, over three turns. Would it be possible for a player to build them out of personal funds and pay, say 1500 the first year and 2000 in the second and third turns? That's actually probably more realistic than paying everything upfront.

OOC: Very well. I allow it. As long as the person have the neccessary mnai each turn. If he don't then I will cancel that recruitment. Reason would be he lacked funds(which is true). However, he will not receive all the mnai invested into this "project". Also, remember that you later have to pay it's upkeep as well.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Construction list:
Alexandros Thraikikos: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Bothos Lapedou Kypriakou: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Ankhwennefer Philometor: Estate near Alexandreia + Akontistai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Meleagros Ptolemaios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Satyrion Limyraios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Philadelphos Ptolemaios: 10 cargo ships = 5000 mnai
Leontiskos Thraikikos: Fleet of Trireis = 4000 mnai this season and 1500 next season
Zoarchos Helios: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai

[johnhughthom]

I would like to build one unit of Triereis, I will pay 4000 this turn and 1500 next turn. And hope I wipe out the Seleukid navy quickly...

[Visor]

Can I change my supervisors to Toxotae?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I would like to build one unit of Triereis, I will pay 4000 this turn and 1500 next turn. And hope I wipe out the Seleukid navy quickly...

Your fleet will be constructed as soon as possible.
Hopefully, you have some sponsors who can financially help you.


Can I change my supervisors to Toxotae?

Yes, you can.

OOC: I hope you all know that it's possible to gift mnai to each other?

[johnhughthom]

OOC: It looks like I've misunderstood the table in the op. I took "Income" to mean seasonal Income, with estates and trade ships being extra, I assume that's incorrect?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

OOC: It looks like I've misunderstood the table in the op. I took "Income" to mean seasonal Income, with estates and trade ships being extra, I assume that's incorrect?

OOC: Yes. That is just the starting mnai each player got.

[strategos roma]

I'd like to build ten ships, all to Salamis. Pls disregard my previous PM as I hadn't read this thread when I sent it.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I'd like to build ten ships, all to Salamis. Pls disregard my previous PM as I hadn't read this thread when I sent it.

OOC: You can build just 6 ships this turn. Also, pick a trade route. The one in PM is not possible.

[strategos roma]

Oh ok...in that case six would be fine. Alexandria to Salamis would be my route.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Unfortunatelly, that route is already taken. You must pick another one.

[Skullheadhq]

Is it possible that an estate of mine could be constructed just south of Hierosolymna? And I would like a unit of Toksotai as well.

[Myth]

It is my understanding that we can have either estates or trade ships but not both.

[The Celtic Viking]

Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.

[Skullheadhq]

Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.

Oh, Memphis then. No cargo.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.

Will do that now!

Kydrogenes' estate will be built in Memphis then.

Construction list:
Alexandros Thraikikos: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Bothos Lapedou Kypriakou: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Ankhwennefer Philometor: Estate near Alexandreia + Akontistai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Meleagros Ptolemaios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Satyrion Limyraios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Philadelphos Ptolemaios: 10 cargo ships = 5000 mnai Trade route: Alexandreia-Salamis
Leontiskos Thraikikos: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Zoarchos Helios: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Isigonos Kleopatrites: 6 cargo ships = 3000 mnai Trade Route: Alexandreia-Diospolis Megale
Kydrogenes Epiphanes: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Timon Arrhidaeos: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai

[johnhughthom]

Since I clearly can't afford to pay for the Triereis myself, I would like to build an estate in Memphis, north west of the port on the road please, with a unit of toxotai.

[strategos roma]

In that case I'd take the route from Alexandria to side.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

At the moment there are just two available trade routes from Alexandreia.
They are:
Alexandreia - Diospolis Megale
Alexandreia - Tarsos

There are also the following trade routes available:
Memphis - Hierosolyma
Memphis - Salamis
Diospolis Megale - Alexandreia
Diospolis Megale - Hierosolyma
Hierosolyma - Memphis
Hierosolyma - Diospolis Megale
Hierosolyma - Tarsos
Salamis - Alexandreia
Salamis - Memphis
Salamis - Tarsos
Salamis - Rhodos

I wouldn't choose trade route with Tarsos since it is besieged by the enemy.

OOC: I suggest you to open the save and check the settlement details if you want to know what trade routes are available.

[strategos roma]

In that case I'd take the route from Alexandreia to Diospolis Megale.




At the moment there are just two available trade routes from Alexandreia.
They are:
Alexandreia - Diospolis Megale
Alexandreia - Tarsos

There are also the following trade routes available:
Memphis - Hierosolyma
Memphis - Salamis
Diospolis Megale - Alexandreia
Diospolis Megale - Hierosolyma
Hierosolyma - Memphis
Hierosolyma - Diospolis Megale
Hierosolyma - Tarsos
Salamis - Alexandreia
Salamis - Memphis
Salamis - Tarsos
Salamis - Rhodos

I wouldn't choose trade route with Tarsos since it is besieged by the enemy.

OOC: I suggest you to open the save and check the settlement details if you want to know what trade routes are available.

[Folgore]

I, Timon Arrhidaeos, wish to purchase an estate on the fertile banks of the Nile in the province of Heptanomis.
Preferably in the following location, but if this land has been sold already, any other land on the Nile will do.

https://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3822/estate01.png

It is to be supervised by a division of Toxotai.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Estates:
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/estates269.jpg
1. Alexandros Thraikikos
2. Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou
3. Ankwennefer Philometor
4. Meleagros Ptolemaios
5. Satyrion Limyraios
6. Leontiskos Thraikikos
7. Kydrogenes Epiphanes
8. Zoarchos Helios
9. Timos Arrhidaeos

The income and spendings.
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/269incomefixed.jpg
* Last turn is the starting money.
** The recruitment cost of the Trireis is not deducted yet.
*** johnhughthom have 1487 in treasury. I subtracted 1500 mnai(first payment of the fleet) from his treasury.

[johnhughthom]

OOC: Do we get any private funds from looting after conquering a city?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

OOC: Yes, it's mentioned in the first post.

[johnhughthom]

OOC: Doh, how'd I miss that?

[The Celtic Viking]

Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.

[strategos roma]

Hello, I'd like to build two more trade ships for my route. Thx!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.

Can't do that. Law E1.2 prevents it.


OOC: Is there a limit to the amount of estates that can be owned and is there a limit to the amount of estates per province? It was stated earlier that no more estates could be built in the Nile delta. Did that apply to only this season, or is there a 5 estate per province limit? If so, how can I now expand my personal economics? I cannot build trade ships, for I already have an estate and I cannot build another estate, because I can have only 1 per province and the only other province with a type 1 government is full already.

OOC: Yes, there is 5 estate per province limit and you can build estates only in Type1 province. However, there are 2 of them(type1 provinces that is) ~;)


Hello, I'd like to build two more trade ships for my route. Thx!

Will do that.

[johnhughthom]

Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.


Can't do that. Law E1.2 prevents it.

We are talking a small sum here, I will pay the difference for the Basileus this turn to enable him to concentrate on his trading ships.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

@TCV - True, did not think about it that way. So, in that case you can have your cargo ships.

[The Celtic Viking]

OOC: Thanks TVC. This is all a little confusing. :S

Yeah, I know. We'll all get used to it, though.

@I-K: Thank you.

@johnhughthom: thank you too, though as it turns out, you needn't do so. Your offer (however small it may be :laugh4:) will not be forgotten.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer report - Autumn, 269

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/269autincome.jpg
* TCV have maximum number of ships now(15 out of 15).
** strategos roma have 8 ships.
*** I suggest for strategos roma to change his trade route in Spring. Salamis-Sidon trade route brings in 259 mnai per season.
**** If TCV wonders why his expenses are so high then he should remember that the upkeep from15 ships is 750 mnai.

[Myth]

I would like to make a second estate in Memphis or any other region that has a farm rate greater than 1. And also pay whatever is due for the fleet.

[LeoCordis]

I would like to make a second estate in Memphis or any other region that has a farm rate greater than 1. And also pay whatever is due for the fleet.

This, with Toxotai supervisors.

[strategos roma]

@ Ibn-Khaldun

Thx for the advice! I'll change the route in this case then at the beginning of the next turn.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Winter, 269

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/269wininc.jpg

* This is the last turn when people have to pay the recruitment cost of the Trireis.
** Added 182 mnai to john's income since I accidentally deducted it from his Treasury. The Law E1.2 say: "To this end, Leontiskos Thraikikos will initially pay 1500 mnai for the construction, while the remaining cost of 4000 mnai should be shared equally among the rest of the Council."
*** The richest person is TCV!

[Folgore]

Now that a navy has been raised to deal with the thread of the Seleucid ships pirating near Kypros, I wish to invest 5000 mnai into 10 tradeships, sailing from Hierosolyma to Memphis. My estate, I will sell, or abandon if there are no parties interested in its purchase. The unit of Toxotai supervising my estate shall be disbanded.

By my calculations, that's 2500 income and 500 ship upkeep:
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9015/traderoute.png

[The Celtic Viking]

I, Basileus Philadelphos, re-sign my trading contract between Alexandreia and Salamis.

[LeoCordis]

I would like to recruit three Machimoi Phalangitai and a Thureophoroi from the Delta Neilou. I assume these will be available to move this turn?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I would like to recruit three Machimoi Phalangitai and a Thureophoroi from the Delta Neilou. I assume these will be available to move this turn?

You can recruit only one unit of Machimoi thus season. The other phalangitai units will be recruited during the next 2 seasons. Perhaps you want to recruit mercenary Thureophoroi?

[LeoCordis]

You can recruit only one unit of Machimoi thus season. The other phalangitai units will be recruited during the next 2 seasons. Perhaps you want to recruit mercenary Thureophoroi?

How much extra will the mercaneries set me back compared to home-grown ones?

OOC: I thought you would spawn them all at once. :[

[Ibn-Khaldun]

How much extra will the mercaneries set me back compared to home-grown ones?

OOC: I thought you would spawn them all at once. :[

The upkeep of the unit is the same. The recruitment cost is higher though. You don't loose much since other two machimoi units are recruited during the next two seasons.

OOC: No, I don't spawn them. The only time I used this option was when we started the game. Later, if anyone wants an estate then his supervisor units are recruited like normal units.

Edit: Just to make sure I don't miss anything.
These are current orders:
Timon Arrhidaeos
*Sell estate (I leave it empty so that it will disapper next turn)
*Disband Supervisor unit.
*Buy 10 ships (-5000 mnai)
*Trade route: Hierosolyma - Memphis
Philadelphos Ptolemaios
*Trade Route: Alexandreia - Salamis
Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou
*Recruit: Machimoi Phalangitai (Alexandreia)
*Recruit: Merc Thureophoroi (Alexandreia)

OOC: I'm giving strategos roma little more time to establish a new trade route.

[LeoCordis]

Right I see. The tiny money lost will be OK over the offset of the time. I assume they'll all be in Alexandria until I choose to recruit them?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Right I see. The tiny money lost will be OK over the offset of the time. I assume they'll all be in Alexandria until I choose to recruit them?

What do you mean by "until I choose to recruit them"? You don't want to recruit them this turn?

[LeoCordis]

OOC: Just a mistype. I do want them recruit as soon as possible.

[johnhughthom]

I would like to recruit a unit of mercenary Galatians, I presume it's okay to mix my private units with the army I command?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I would like to recruit a unit of mercenary Galatians, I presume it's okay to mix my private units with the army I command?

Yes, it is okay. However, your private units must be listed in the SoT post.

OOC: Since, Bothos is in Side then I cannot recruit his Thureophoroi because they are not available in his province. Like I said, you can recruit mercenaries only if the avatar is present in the province.

[LeoCordis]

OOC: I thought you mentioned them because I could. :| Just make 4 turns of recruitment then. It's fine with me.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Spring, 268

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/268sprinc.jpg
* The upkeep of Trireis is 154 per turn.
* john got his unit of Galatian shortswordsmen.
* TCV have 15, Folgore 10 and strategos roma 8 ships.
* strategos roma did not established trade route and thus he did not received any income this season.
* I accidentally added Leo's Machimoi Phalangitai into the recruitment queue of Memphis. If he wants them to be recruited in Alexandreia then I ask Ash to change the town.

[Folgore]

I would like to invest another 2500 mnai towards 5 more trade ships, sailing on the same route as my other ships.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Summer, 268

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/sum268.jpg
* TCV and Folgore have 15 cargo ships. strategos roma have 8 ships.
* TCV gets 511 mnai from the battle of Damaskos. He have 12867 mnai.

[Folgore]

You forgot to subtract 2500 mnai for my 5 ships purchased there. Or has Christmas come early this year? Oh wait, we don't have Christmas yet for 268 years. Oh well...

[The Celtic Viking]

Actually, you won't have Christmas for more than 1268 years, but that's just a rip off of pagan festivals anyway. ~;)

[johnhughthom]

I went with occupy in Paratoinon and the amount was 150. 704 defenders, so that means I get 502 altogether from it, right?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

You forgot to subtract 2500 mnai for my 5 ships purchased there. Or has Christmas come early this year? Oh wait, we don't have Christmas yet for 268 years. Oh well...

You are right. That leaves 1450 mnai into your Treasury. Weird that I missed it since I have it in my notes and are marked OK. :shrug:


I went with occupy in Paratoinon and the amount was 150. 704 defenders, so that means I get 502 altogether from it, right?

Okay, I should clarify how you receive mnai when you take settlement.
Firstly, you get "the number of enemies / 2" and that is 352.
That's just like field battle.
However, once you take the settlement and choose..
.. occupy the you get nothing.
.. expel then you get "the number of expelled citizens / 2"
.. enslave then you get "the number of enslaved citizens / 2"

This reminds me that I forgot to add 511 mnai to TCV for winning that battle near Damaskos. :shame:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Euergetes Ptolemaios' funds are frozen as per this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136107-OOC-Thread&p=2053333839&viewfull=1#post2053333839).

Also, from this season on I don't deduct upkeep from the cargo ships if people have not signed a trade route.

[strategos roma]

I would like to establish a trade route from Salamis to Sidon then...haven't been here for a few days

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I would like to establish a trade route from Salamis to Sidon then...haven't been here for a few days

Unfortunatelly, I already calculated this season's income. I will use that trade route for you next season.

Never mind.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Autumn, 268

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/268autinc.jpg
* This is the last season when johnhughthom did not payed the upkeep of the Trireis.
* The upkeep cost this turn was 170 mnai per player.
* Some statistics: Players have in their treasuries 86314 mnai! Income this turn was 23425 mnai and expenses were 7716 mnai!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Winter, 268

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/268wininc.jpg
* Added Zim's funds to LeoCordis.
* The upkeep of the Trireis is 154 mnai.

[johnhughthom]

I'd like to recruit a unit of Mercenary Greek Hoplite Phalanx please.

[Folgore]

I wish to extend my current trade shipping contract for 15 ships sailing from Hierosolyma to Memphis for the next year (267 BCE).

I would also like to recruit 2 units of sphendonetai (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=greek%20missile%20sphendenotai&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Memphis.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Spring, 267

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/267sprinc.jpg
* TCV and strategos roma did not resigned the trade contract so they received no income.
* I received 60 mnai from the battle and thus I have 8212 mnai.

[The Celtic Viking]

Gargh! Resigning the trade route between Alexandreia and Salamis.

[Folgore]

Can I recruit a unit of Ioudaioi Taxeis (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20infantry%20iudaioi%20taxeis&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Hierosolyma in addition to a unit of Sphendonetai (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=greek%20missile%20sphendenotai&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Memphis? (I can't seem to find if the limit was 1 per turn or 1 per city per turn.) If I can't, I'd like the Ioudaioi Taxeis first.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes, you can.

[Folgore]

Cool. Put 'em on my tab. :p

[The Celtic Viking]

Could I hire one unit of Galatikoi Kluddolon and one unit of Mistophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi (both mercenaries)?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Could I hire one unit of Galatikoi Kluddolon and one unit of Mistophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi (both mercenaries)?

I was going to post the save.. However, I'll recruit them for you..

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Summer, 267

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/267incsum.jpg
*Recruited Heavy skirmisher cavalry for Myth, Sphendonetai and Ioudaioi Taxeis for Folgore and Mercenary Kretans and Galatians for TCV.

[johnhughthom]

I'd like another unit of Mercenary Greek Hoplite Phalanx please I-K.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Treasurer Report - Autumn, 267

https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/267autinc.jpg
* johnhughthom, Skullheadhq and I lost 50% of the income due to the Rebel army in Memphis province.

EDIT: TCV will receive 261 mnai next turn from the battle he fought.

[strategos roma]

Arrgh...never knew tht trade route could be so annoying.
Are there any estate slots still available? If not, then I'm resigning my trade route

[Folgore]

Yeah you can build one in Memphis. The rebels there are also gone now. Trade ships net you a lot more money though, so if you're reasonably active, that's what I'd go for.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

That's once a year(4 turns). I don't think it's that difficult to resign it after every 4-5 days. Considering that sea trade generates 2-3 times more money(with 15 ships) than estates then I'm not going to change it. You can also take it as an activity control.

I posted this in the Rule changes thread.

[Folgore]

This winter, I would like to:

Recruit 1 unit of Machimoi Phalangitai (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20infantry%20machimoi%20phalangitai&text=&ownership=numidia&class=any&category=any) in Alexandreia
Recruit 1 unit of Machimoi Phalangitai (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20infantry%20machimoi%20phalangitai&text=&ownership=numidia&class=any&category=any) in Memphis
Donate 700 mnai to Alexandros Thraikikos (Myth)

[Myth]

I wish for my two hurt units to be retrained using my private funds.

[johnhughthom]

I would like to donate 1 mnai to Myth to help cover his retraining.

[Myth]

OOC snide remarks? This is roleplaying remember? :D

[Folgore]

The boundries of OOC and IC are a bit blurred in this thread. Still, johnhughthom's post is hilarious :D

[johnhughthom]

OOC snide remarks? This is roleplaying remember? :D

It wasn't intended as a snide remark, it's a genuine order. Though the IC intent is quite clear. :wink:

[The Celtic Viking]

I shall resign the Alexandreia-Salamis trade route.

[Paul D]

Lysimachos Ptolemaios requisitions 6 Cargo Ships

[The Celtic Viking]

You're lucky Ibn-Khaldun forgot to post the report for the winter or you would have missed it for this turn. Just tell me which trade route you would like to capitalize on and I'll set you right up.

[Paul D]

Salamis to Tarsos please, based in Salamis.

[The Celtic Viking]

Okay, lets hope I got everything right. Note: this is for the last turn, not this one. (For example, that's why Lysimachos isn't on this list.)

https://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5158/winterreport267.jpg

(Edit: I noticed now some of those have positive expenditures. Though the numbers are correct and the calculation done right, there should be a subtraction mark before.)

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6352/reportspringsubmit.png
Folgore and strategos roma did not resign their trade routes, and therefore earned no money.
The Celtic Viking decided to pay Paul D's ship tax for this turn so he could afford his 6 cargo ships.

[Folgore]

I would like to re-sign my traderoute from Hierosolyma to Memphis and recruit one unit of Machimoi Phalangitai in Memphis.

[Folgore]

I just realised I failed to report my privately owned units which I recruited in the past year and thus have committed tax fraud to a small degree. I'll calculate how much I owe the treasury and I'm willing to submit myself to whatever punishment the council deems fit. (A stern warning or a small fine seems in order...)

Ibn-Khaldum deducted the upkeep correctly, so I only missed payments for this winter.
The total amount of mnai I owe the state is 984 mnai.


My sincere apologies.

[The Celtic Viking]

Are you sure you mean this winter, and not this spring? ~;p

Anyway, I'm quite sure I calculated all your units correctly for the winter report except for one of the sphendos. In the spring report it's true I missed them all; I can fix that at the same time as I advance the save, though.

In other words, I'm using my power as the Basileus to pardon you. If someone else have private units not listed in his SOT, I will pardon you too if you come out before I do this; if you don't, however, I might not be so merciful. :evil:

[Paul D]

Lysimachos Ptolemaios requisitions 3 cargo ships.

His cargo fleet signs onto the Salamis-Antiocheia route based at Salamis

[The Celtic Viking]

You can only have one trade route at a time, and though you may switch, the one you speak of is already taken by yours truly.

[The Celtic Viking]

This should be a correct version of the spring report.

https://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8424/reportspring266.jpg

[Paul D]

Where did you say you took that one?

Fine, I stay on Salamis-Tarsus

[The Celtic Viking]

Hmm, that's my mistake. I had assumed that, since you get both export and import, that line was crossed. Going back I see that was rash, and wrong. If you wish to change that, you can, but it won't happen until summer this year. :shame:

[LeoCordis]

I wish to recruit three units of Toxotai Kretikoi (Kretan Archers). Once these are done the other missile units in the Heir's Royal Army may become defunct and serve elsewhere in the Kingdom.

[strategos roma]

I would like to resign my trade route and build an estate if possible in any province.

Sorry but I was away for a few days

[The Celtic Viking]

Yes, it's possible in Memphis. You need to tell me what you want governing it though: toxotai, akontistai or sphendonetai.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5277/reportsummer.jpg
Three Toxotai Kretikoi setup for recruitment in Antiocheia for LeoCordis.
Three Cargo Ships built and trade route changed to Salamis-Alexandreia for Paul D.
One Pantodapoi Phalangitai setup for recruitment in Memphis for Folgore.
The Celtic Viking spent personal money to improve the religious infrastructure in Alexandreia.

[Paul D]

Lysimachos Ptolemaios:
- requisitions 3 more Cargo ships

Hires 1 unit of Peltastai (1,218) at Diaspolos-Megale for his Private military.

[Folgore]

I would like to recruit a unit of Machimoi Hippeis (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20cavalry%20machimoi%20hippeis&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Alexandreia this autumn.




In other words, I'm using my power as the Basileus to pardon you.
All hail King Ptolemy the merciful! I am most grateful. :)

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4338/autumn266.jpg
Recruited a unit of Machimoi Hippeis for Folgore.
Built three cargo ships for Paul D. However, there were not enough money to hire the Peltastai. (Will do so this winter instead unless stopped.)
Retrained The Celtic Viking's private units.

[Paul D]

Lysimachos Ptolemaios:
- requisitions 4 more Cargo ships

Continue Peltastai in Diaspolis-Megale (I don't see why I didn't have enough money? With the 3 cargo ships and the troops, I spent 2,718- do you count upkeep as a true expense, or do you subtract it from current treasury after purchases are made?)

[Folgore]

I would like to recruit another unit of Machimoi Hippeis (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20cavalry%20machimoi%20hippeis&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Alexandreia. (2 more units and my army is complete. :P )

[The Celtic Viking]

Continue Peltastai in Diaspolis-Megale (I don't see why I didn't have enough money? With the 3 cargo ships and the troops, I spent 2,718- do you count upkeep as a true expense, or do you subtract it from current treasury after purchases are made?)

You had 2996 mnai. You bought 3 ships for 1500, getting you up to a total of 12 ships. The upkeep for each ship is 50, so 50*12 = 600. The fleet tax (for the Trieries) is 151 for each active player. 1500 + 600 + 151 = 2251. 2996 - 2251 = 745 mnai, which is less than the 1218 mnai required.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9058/reportwinter266.jpg
Built 3 cargo ships and recruited a unit of Peltastai in Diaspolis-Megale for Paul D.
Recruited a unit of Machimoi Hippeis for Folgore in Alexandreia.

(Paul D, if you wonder why I only built 3 cargo ships for you, it's because you already had 12 and there's a limit of 15.)

[Paul D]

Lysimachos Ptolemaios recruits a unit of Peltastai in either Memphis or Diaspolis-Megale (Preferrably in Memphis) (cost= 1,218)

Lysimachos commisions the construction of a Pentekoneroi fleet wherever it is convenient to do so. (cost= 2,500)

Lysimachos Ptolemaios keeps his Alexandria-Salamis trade route contract in effect.


OOC: In case anybody is wondering, I'm planning on having my guy make naval reforms, which involves having a permanent contingent of marines (peltastai or Kretan Archers) aboard all military ships, and a fleet consisting of specified modular units that we can deploy either the ships, or the marines to coastal provinces, when needed. He wants to make an example by forming a private force first to show its potential usefulness.

[Folgore]

I would like to sign the trade route from Salamis to Antiocheia (385 mnai per ship per turn).

[The Celtic Viking]

I'm signing the trade route between Antiocheia and Salamis.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9471/reportspring265.jpg
Recruited Pentekonteroi in Alexandreia and Peltastai in Memphis for Paul D.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9995/summerreport265.jpg
The Celtic Viking and Folgore's income was cut in half due to pirates.

[Paul D]

Lysimachos Ptolemaios hires 1 more unit of Peltastai at Alexandria or Memphis to form the marines for his personal navy.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5245/reportautumn265.jpg
Recruited a unit of Peltastai for Paul D in Alexandreia.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7482/reportwinter265.jpg
Extra (127) charges for repairing the Trieries has been applied.

[The Celtic Viking]

I'm signing the trade route between Salamis and Antiocheia. (:tongue2: to you, Folgore!)

[Folgore]

(Ah you scoundrel, I was on vacation! :p )

I'll take Antiocheia to Salamis then this year.



EDIT: I would also like to retrain my Ioudaioi Taxeis (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20infantry%20iudaioi%20taxeis&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Hierosolyma and recruit another unit of Ioudaioi Taxeis (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20infantry%20iudaioi%20taxeis&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any), also in Hierosolyma.

[Paul D]

Lysimachos Ptolemaios keeps his trade contract of Salamis-Alexandria open.

[The Celtic Viking]

(Ah you scoundrel, I was on vacation! :p )

That seems to me to be the best time to strike. ~;)

Treasurer's Report:

https://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7821/reportspring264.jpg
Retrained the Iudaioi Taxeis in Hierosolyma and recruited another one in the same place for Folgore.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3923/reportsummer264.jpg
Recruited a unit of Trispithamoi Katapeltai for The Celtic Viking in Antiocheia, and also used his money to build a type 3 goverment in Ammonion.

[Folgore]

What happened to my trade route? Suddenly it's 1400 mnai less.

Can I switch to Salamis-Side or do I have to wait until the end of the year?

[The Celtic Viking]

I don't know what happened either; I was just as surprised as you and had to double check it just to make sure I hadn't made a mistake. At least you still didn't go minus.

In any case, no, you don't have to wait and you can change trade routes at any time. You will still have to sign it again as soon as the next year begins though.

[Folgore]

Yeah, I figured maybe it was rebels again, because they caused my trade to go down when I was in Ioudaia, but your route (my previous route ( :angry: )), which is the reverse of my current route, is unaffected.

Anyway, if I can switch then it's no big deal. I'd like to sign the Salamis-Side route then.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7047/autumnreport264.jpg
Recruited a unit of Mistophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi for The Celtic Viking, merged them with his old ones and then disbanded the rest.
Disbanded Visorslash's supervisors and removed his estate. There is now an open spot for an estate in Alexandreia for anyone interested.

[johnhughthom]

I would like to purchase the estate in Alexandreia please.

[The Celtic Viking]

I would like to purchase the estate in Alexandreia please.

I assume you'll use the same supervisors as before, yes?

[johnhughthom]

I assume you'll use the same supervisors as before, yes?

Yes, thanks. :bow:

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2783/reportwinter264.jpg
Tore down johnhughthom's estate outside of Memphis and built a new one for him outside Alexandreia.

[Folgore]

Got loot from 289 Seleucid soldiers from the Battle of Assyrie (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053351688#post2053351688).

[The Celtic Viking]

Treasurer Report, Spring 263 BCE
https://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9714/reportspring263.jpg
The Celtic Viking signed the Salamis-Antiocheia route.
Folgore and Paul D didn't sign any route, so they got no income this turn...
... except for the money that Folgore made from the battle.

[The Celtic Viking]

Got loot from 289 Seleucid soldiers from the Battle of Assyrie (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053351688#post2053351688).

Actually, you got loot from 301 Seleucid soldiers. The rules just says that it's the number of enemies is what counts, not how many of them that you killed.

Edit: you know what? I'm going to do it again, and "steal" your trade route. I'm switching to the Salamis-Side trade route. My greed was just too strong for me to resist it. ~;p

[Folgore]

Haha! I somehow managed to report the 151 mnai I got for the battle, but forgot the 5800 mnai trade route...

I'd like the Salamis-Antiocheia route then please.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I think we can call strategos roma inactive as well for now.

[The Celtic Viking]

Roger. I will probably take the save and do my stuff in a couple of hours, so Paul D still has some time to sign a route.

[Folgore]

I defeated 299 Seleucid soldiers at the The Battle of Syria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053352408#post2053352408).

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9472/reportsummer263.jpg
Folgore's made 150 mnai from The Battle of Syria.
Strategos roma's account was frozen.

(OOC: Foiled by my own greed! I don't know how - I'm sure I double checked - but Folgore made more money from the trade than I did. Serves me right I guess. :shame:)

[Folgore]

Haha! Karma works. :2thumbsup:

When do you calculate the income though, after ending the turn? I'm sure Salamis-Side was making more when I had the save.

[The Celtic Viking]

No, I do it after I've made all construction and recruitment, usually just before I do my own moves. Is that really affecting sea trade as well? :/

[Folgore]

Ah, I just loaded yesterday's save and looks like I was wrong. My route was indeed more.

It should be less than yours this season though. :P

[The Celtic Viking]

Treasurer Report, Autumn 263 BCE

https://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2029/reportautumn263.jpg
Disbanded Paul D's Peltastai in Diospolis-Megale.

[Folgore]

I defeated an army of 594 Seleucid soldiers in the 2nd Battle of Syria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053353734&viewfull=1#post2053353734).

[The Celtic Viking]

Treasurer Report, Winter 263 BCE

https://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3927/winterreport263.jpg
Folgore earned 297 mnai from his battle.

[Folgore]

I would like to re-sign the Salamis-Antiocheia route, before I forget it again.

[Folgore]

I have defeated 264 Seleucid soldiers in the Battle of Palmyra (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053358287&viewfull=1#post2053358287) and earned 1057 from selling 1433 Palmyrians into slavery.

I need walls around Palmyra as soon as possible. If the Chancellor does not see fit to spend the empire's money on this, I will pay for them myself.

[The Celtic Viking]

Actually, you only earned 717 mnai from selling the slaves, as your personal income for that is number of slaves sold/2. I'm going to let you pay for the walls yourself, because since RC 3.1 failed, I have no choice but to recruit units until both Royal Armies are made up of 20 units each. Since it's your fault it failed, you've only yourself to blame. :p

Anyway, I'm signing the Salamis-Side trade route again.

[Folgore]

So I only made 717 mnai from my slaves and 132 mnai from the battle loot, from which I have to subtract 800 mnai for the walls I need for my protection. So in total, my glorious conquest of Palmyra earned me 49 mnai...

I should have listened to my mother and become a pottery merchant.

OOC: And my character got the "wealthy" trait after this battle...

[The Celtic Viking]

:laugh4:

Treasurer Report, Spring 263 BCE
https://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1324/springreport262.jpg
Unfroze strategos roma's account and built him an estate in Memphis, with sphendonetai as supervisors. (PM contact. I hope he's not developed a shyness and shows up here as well.)
The Celtic Viking loaned strategos roma 228 mnai so he could afford it.
Froze Ashurnasirpal II's account.
Unfroze Skullhead's account.

[The Celtic Viking]

Treasurer's Report, Summer 262 BCE
https://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5306/summerreport262.jpg

[strategos roma]

:laugh4:

Treasurer Report, Spring 263 BCE
https://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1324/springreport262.jpg
Unfroze strategos roma's account and built him an estate in Memphis, with sphendonetai as supervisors. (PM contact. I hope he's not developed a shyness and shows up here as well.)
The Celtic Viking loaned strategos roma 228 mnai so he could afford it.
Froze Ashurnasirpal II's account.
Unfroze Skullhead's account.

Haha, thanks for loaning me the cash. Sorry for the long absence.

[Folgore]

I would like to have my two units of Ioudaioi Taxeis retrained in Damascos.

[The Celtic Viking]

@strategos roma: No problem. I do expect to be repaid for it at some point, though. :p

@Fogore: Sure, shall do so when I can.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img545.imageshack.us/img545/435/autumnreport262.jpg
Folgore's Iudaioi Taxeis units have been retrained in Damaskos.

[Paul D]

using personal funds to set up provisional government in Kydonia (costs 200)

Hiring 2 units of mercenary peltastai on Krete with personal funds (costs 5,602)

Well, might as well attempt to cut losses:

Signing my 15 trade ships onto the Kydonia-Athens route (338 per ship)

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2489/winterreport262.jpg
Hired 2 mercenary peltasts for Paul D.

[The Celtic Viking]

I'm retaining the Salamis-Side trade route.

[Folgore]

And I am retaining the Salamis-Antiocheia route.

I defeated and army of 1157 Seleucid soldiers at the 3rd battle of Syria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053361356&viewfull=1#post2053361356).

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1019/springreport261.jpg
Recruited a unit of Enoci Curoas for The Celtic Viking
Folgore earned 579 from The 3rd Battle of Syria
Paul D didn't sign any trade route

[Folgore]

I would like to:
Retrain my Ioudaioi Taxeis (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20infantry%20iudaioi%20taxeis&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) and Sphendonetai (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=greek%20missile%20sphendenotai&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Antiocheia
468 mnai
Recruit one unit of Toxotai Kretikoi (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20missile%20cretan%20archers&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Antiocheia
1424 mnai
Recruit one unit of Ioudaioi Taxeis (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=hellenistic%20infantry%20iudaioi%20taxeis&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) in Damascos
1503 mnai

3395 mnai in total

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8956/summerreport261.jpg
Retrained Folgore's Iudaioi Taxeis and Sphendonetai, and recruited a unit of Toxotai Kretikoi for him in Antiocheia, and a unit of Iudaioi Taxeis in Damaskos.

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img823.imageshack.us/img823/612/autumnreport261.jpg
Fined Paul D 1000 mnai for breaking the law and ignoring his Basileus warning.

(Edit: forgot to give the tiny battle bonus to Folgore. Will do so next season.)

[Folgore]

(Edit: forgot to give the tiny battle bonus to Folgore. Will do so next season.)
I did not report it because I didn't kill any of the enemy and it would have been a very small amount.

This season though, I defeated an army of 425 Seleucid soldiers at the battle of Kilikia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053362956&viewfull=1#post2053362956).

[Paul D]

What trade routes are open right now? I'd better start doing some.

Yeah I was going to say something about that- its pointlessly easy to make money off of trade

[Folgore]

All are open, except Salamis - Antiocheia and Salamis - Side.

You can see how much a route is worth by clicking the settlement, then the trade button in the lower left and then the trade routes button in the left of the trade screen. I believe the Antiocheia - Salamis route is most profitable from the ones that are not taken, giving you 353 mnai per ship per season. Sign a route now to keep yourself from going bankrupt, but remember that trade routes expire at the end of the year (next turn), so you will need to resign them again in the spring.

[Paul D]

Signing Antiocheia-Salamis route

[The Celtic Viking]

https://img818.imageshack.us/img818/258/winterreport261.jpg
Paul D has gone into debt. If he doesn't sort it out next turn his units will be disbanded.

Edit: Oh, I'm such a lousy Treasurer! I was in a hurry when I made this that I once again forgot to give you your battle income, Folgore. Seeing how strapped you are for money right now, I do hope you can find a way to pull through to the next season. ~;)

Seriously though, I do apologize.

Edit 2: Oh, and I'm resigning the Salamis-Side trade route.

[Folgore]

Edit: Oh, I'm such a lousy Treasurer! I was in a hurry when I made this that I once again forgot to give you your battle income, Folgore. Seeing how strapped you are for money right now, I do hope you can find a way to pull through to the next season. ~;)

Seriously though, I do apologize.
You made up for it by messing up my expenses as well. :D

I think you forgot my ship upkeep or something. My expenses are down more than 800 mnai from last turn and I only lost 30 units in the battle I fought.



Anyway, I would like to re-sign the Salamis - Antiocheia route.

[Paul D]

Signing Antiocheia-Salamis route

[The Celtic Viking]

You made up for it by messing up my expenses as well. :D

I think you forgot my ship upkeep or something. My expenses are down more than 800 mnai from last turn and I only lost 30 units in the battle I fought.

Bloody hell, you're right. You should've paid 3826 mnai this turn, so you paid 696 mnai too little. I know 378 of that is the unit of Iudaioi Taxeis you raised in Damaskos, and the 318 mnai that's left is equal to your 36 man machimoi hippeis, so that's them. 265 mnai you're owed, so next turn you'll pay 431 mnai extra. If I can remember it. :embarassed:

[The Celtic Viking]

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Folgore paid his dues. (:p)

[The Celtic Viking]

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Paul D has been fined 500 mnai for violating the Chancellor's taxation control for a second time.
Paul D earned 95 mnai when capturing Halikarnassos.

[The Celtic Viking]

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[The Celtic Viking]

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Froze Skullhead's account.

[Folgore]

I am retaining the Salamis-Antiocheia route.

[The Celtic Viking]

I suppose I'm keeping the Salamis-Side trade as well.

[Paul D]

I shall take Antiocheia-Salamis route.

[The Celtic Viking]

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[The Celtic Viking]

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Disbanded The Celtic Viking's Enoci Curoas.

[The Celtic Viking]

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[Folgore]

I have defeated an army of 237 Seleucid soldiers in the Battle of Seleuceia (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136213-Battle-Reports&p=2053370004&viewfull=1#post2053370004).

I have sold 21903 Seleucid men, women and children into slavery after the capture of Seleuceia.

https://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4726/259battleseleuceia2.png



And I would like to recruit a unit of Klerouchoi Phalangitai (http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.net/index.php?mp=unit&unit=greek%20infantry%20kleruchoi%20hoplitai&text=&ownership=any&class=any&category=any) for my personal army in Seleuceia.

[The Celtic Viking]

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Froze johnhughthom, LeoCordis and strategos roma's accounts.
Raised a unit of Klerouchoi Phalangitai in Seleukeia for Folgore.