It's a surprise mafia [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm up next, and I don't even have a game concept yet.

I won't throw anything too bizarre at you, because I know you guys need a break from weirdness after Revengening.

Sign-up for the surprise!

Sign-ups: 17/17

Seon
GeneralHankerchief
TheLastDays
Renata
Diamondeye
Populus Romanus
ArpeggiateTHIS
Secura
Believer
Romanic
issaikhaan
Major Robert Dump
Robbiecon
Ibn-Khaldun
Captain Blackadder
Classical_hero
Mr Stuka

Chaotix (Reserve)
Johnhughthom (Reserve)
Nightbringer (Reserve)
Warman (Reserve)
B_Ray (Reserve)

[Seon]

Innate.

[GeneralHankerchief]

All right, here's hoping it's not too complicated. In.


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[TheLastDays]

In Don't make me neutral...

[Renata]

Yup.

[Diamondeye]

For sure.

[Populus Romanus]

:yes:

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

i like the bizarreness, nevertheless im in.

[Secura]

Unfortunately, I didn't get to sign up to Revengening, so you can certainly count me in here. :3

[johnhughthom]

Ayuh.

[Believer]

Will this bring me candy?

[Romanic]

Sign me up, it's not every day you have the opportunity to play a game with GH. :beam:

I remember my last game with him, a Bridge Zhou Far, when we elected him leader, and he was doing such a crappy job! fun fun fun!

And he was anti Town! :grin:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Also, Pizza, don't think for one minute that hosting another game gets you out of Secret Option Bravo.

-edit- Wow Romanic, that was the last game you played with me? I forgot how rarely I actually play these things now. :laugh4:


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also, Pizza, don't think for one minute that hosting another game gets you out of Secret Option Bravo.

-edit- Wow Romanic, that was the last game you played with me? I forgot how rarely I actually play these things now. :laugh4:

You've been a naughty GH, hiding away from the games. Don't you realize these young whippersnappers need to be taught how to be truly scummy? Only you can teach them.

[Visor]

Would join, but I'll be away, so I can't. Good luck to you all.

[seireikhaan]

You've been a naughty GH, hiding away from the games. Don't you realize these young whippersnappers need to be taught how to be truly scummy? Only you can teach them.
:cry:


:charge:

(aka in)

[Romanic]

Also, Pizza, don't think for one minute that hosting another game gets you out of Secret Option Bravo.

-edit- Wow Romanic, that was the last game you played with me? I forgot how rarely I actually play these things now. :laugh4:
Yeah. You played in The Mafia Comeback and Copa Clash recently but I wasn't part of these games. Before that, you took a break of almost a year. We missed you. :bigcry:

Edit: Also, "Secret Option Bravo" ??? :shocked:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Edit: Also, "Secret Option Bravo" ??? :shocked:

I got a taste of power being a Content Manager, and I liked it. Now, Admiral GeneralHankerchief and I are going to be launching a pirate ship filled with the yarringest pirates of all time toward the Total War Center. We shall take their doubloons, harpoons, and pantaloons. We shall hoist out flag proudly over their barely-floating hull. We will dock in their harbor and drink all their ale!

But it wouldn't be a very good secret operation if I told you all about it, so I'm afraid me lips are sealed. Yarrr.

[Major Robert Dump]

The town needs a good first lynch and I am stuck in Kabul for another month, so I will volunteer. BTW in the few mafia games I have played I have an uncanny knack of vigging/voting one of my teammates on round 1.

[Diamondeye]

Sign me up, it's not every day you have the opportunity to play a game with GH. :beam:

Just noticed in the Gameroom Statistics that we both have a winning streak we need to keep going. Let's hope the surprise isn't too mortifying :curtain:

[robbiecon]

Surprise! In

[Ibn-Khaldun]

In!

[Captain Blackadder]

In if there is room for me.

[Romanic]

Just noticed in the Gameroom Statistics that we both have a winning streak we need to keep going. Let's hope the surprise isn't too mortifying :curtain:
Shhh, you'll jinx it.

[Chaotix]

Reserve in case you don't get a full 17.

[Diamondeye]

Shhh, you'll jinx it.

"Look at the bright side, at least it can't get any worse!"

There :curtain:

[classical_hero]

Surprising.

[Mr. Stuka]

IN!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, sign ups are closed.

Give me a day or so to design the game and send out role PMs.

[Nightbringer]

Now that the quarter is over i should have time to play some more of these. If you need a replacement just throw me a pm ATPG.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Can I be a reserve?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay.

I have a game design thrown together, and it should be interesting. I have no idea how this is going to go, but, I do believe all sides are balanced. It's not a fancy or complicated game, but, it's not just a standard town versus mafia setup.


Town (versus) Cult (versus) Cult.
If the Cult Leaders are destroyed, cultists revert to their original alignment.
Regular townies can win with either cult.
Town will have incorruptible members who cannot be converted, their goal is town victory only.
Cult leaders cannot be corrupted, their alignment will always remain the same.
Cultists can be re-converted to a different alignment.
It will not be known to the converter whether or not conversion was successful.
Failed conversion does not reveal who tried to convert you.
Every round, someone will be lynched.
No Lynch is not an option.
Abstain votes are legal as long as there is at least one person voting to lynch.
Quoting/copying/pasting your role PM is not allowed.

Revealing who you are and what your goals are, publicly, or privately, is legal. It may not be wise, but it's legal.
Cult leaders will be granted cover roles. Mass reveals will not solve the game.
Alignment will NOT be revealed upon death. :evil:
Dead players cannot vote or perform any actions.
Dead players may not reveal their alignment or previous actions.
There may be other roles in the game besides basic townies and cult leaders.




Voting procedure:

Vote: Abstain
is legal when someone else has voted to lynch a player.

Vote: Player
is considered a legal vote.

Unvote.
is considered a legal way to change your vote to an abstain. This will not be counted if everyone else has abstained.

Unvote, vote: Player
is considered a legal way to switch votes.




Endgame:


When all players who can be converted have been converted at least once, the remaining Cult Leaders can choose to murder instead of converting someone.
They can convert instead of murdering as well.
This will continue until all Cult Leaders have been destroyed, or only one Cult remains, with enough votes to win outright.



Okay, that's the setup. Comments? If you guys think this one will be lame, I'll scrap the idea and we'll do a basic vanilla GH-style game.

[Diamondeye]

Awesome. Cult leader please :curtain:

[Believer]

That looks fine to me. Give me something cool. :)

[TheLastDays]

So the town wins when both cult leaders are destroyed?

[Askthepizzaguy]

So the town wins when both cult leaders are destroyed?

Yes, the town will win when all the cult leaders are gone.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Simple enough for me. :yes:


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Just a preliminary note to say I'll be inactive for the larger part of the weekend (working off GMT time), I can make anything on Friday morning and then Sunday night, but nothing inbetween.

That is all.

[Renata]

Heh. Completely loony-tunes.


It will not be known to the converter whether or not conversion was successful.
Failed conversion does not reveal who tried to convert you.

But a successful conversion does reveal that? Doesn't make sense with the other rules, but that's what's implied.

[TheLastDays]

Well someone's gotta know when a conversion is succesful and the converted must know who his boss is, right?...

although that's weird... because if getting converted again he'll know who his boss was ^^ and it'll be pretty easy for him to kill him off

[Renata]

That's what I mean. Both by its not making sense with the other rules, and by the setup being loony-tunes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But a successful conversion does reveal that? Doesn't make sense with the other rules, but that's what's implied.

No, conversion or failed conversion both do not reveal who the boss is.

The boss can send instructions along with the conversion message, anonymously, through me. After that, they'll have to contact the convert themselves for further instructions, which as the rules imply, is risky.

[Renata]

That actually does allow a successful recruit to identify themselves as having been recruited, if you think about it.

[TheLastDays]

So success or failure of conversion only depends on whether the one to be converted is a convertible towny or not?
Also, just to be clear, the cult bosses will never know if any of their recruitables has been reconverted to the other cult?
Will they get the anonymous conversion message if conversion was not succesful?
And how will the cult bosses know when every recruitable person has been recruited at least once?

[Askthepizzaguy]

That actually does allow a successful recruit to identify themselves as having been recruited, if you think about it.

Yes, and it also allows an unsuccessful recruit to identify themselves as having been recruited. :evil:


So success or failure of conversion only depends on whether the one to be converted is a convertible towny or not?

Success is automatic if the target is convertible.


Also, just to be clear, the cult bosses will never know if any of their recruitables has been reconverted to the other cult?

True dat.


Will they get the anonymous conversion message if conversion was not succesful?

Yes. :evil:

In other words, Cult Leaders may try to recruit people, but they will never know for sure if they've been converted and are trustworthy.


And how will the cult bosses know when every recruitable person has been recruited at least once?

Because I will know, and I'll tell them.

[Renata]

Oh, ok -- the previous comment implied only successful recruits would get the message; now I see.

[B-Wing]

You can add me as a reserve. I regret not signing up for this. :poutyface:

[Askthepizzaguy]

You can add me as a reserve. I regret not signing up for this. :poutyface:

They always do. :beam:

Jeepers, guys, where are all you people when I need a large game to fill up and then have reserves? It's like pulling teeth; a small game rolls around and all of a sudden I have 25 people falling into my lap.

I didn't even plan or advertise this game!!! :mad:

[johnhughthom]

They always do. :beam:

Jeepers, guys, where are all you people when I need a large game to fill up and then have reserves? It's like pulling teeth; a small game rolls around and all of a sudden I have 25 people falling into my lap.

I didn't even plan or advertise this game!!! :mad:

And 35 at CFC. That other game you hadn't even designed yet, but still got loads of people to sign up for. I hate you. :clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I really regret not having a game idea already designed for that one. It seems I have actually gone through my massive list of game ideas from like 2 years ago and gotten them all done or scrapped the bad ones at last.

I bet if I had something awesome planned, advertised, and invited people, I could push 50 participants over there.

[Chaotix]

Looks good, sort of like a mini-CoV III.

(Because the first thing that pops into my head is always how I can selfishly relate things to my own games :clown:)

I'm around if you need a replacement. Somehow I think I am not a living player in a single running mafia game right now.

EDIT: Forgot KnightTime. Always forget KnightTime.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok, I'll try to launch this one after my closing shift tonight.

Fingers crossed it doesn't suck! :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

In the beginning....



There was a continent surrounded by a nameless sea. The people of this land existed for countless generations, and they were nothing more than a bunch of disorganized tribes constantly warring with one another over territory. The cheese-lovers would be constantly squabbling with the wheat farmers, and the tomato growers would complain that their land would be trampled on by the pig farmers. After several long and bloody wars, the land had been torn apart. None of the tribes could make enough food to feed themselves, so they were forced to rely on trade... and they soon found that the separate foods they all enjoyed actually tasted quite good when mixed together and baked in an oven.

And so, a new religion formed... and it spread throughout the separate tribes.... and they soon formed the Order of the Pizza-Eaters. With their new way of thinking, and their cooperative, egalitarian philosophy, pizza reigned supreme over the land.

Get it? :eyebrows:



But something strange is happening in the Crusty Plains. Some of the common folk are insisting that Pizza is an impure food, and that there is a much better food that should be eaten. The Order of the Pizza Eaters has dispatched someone to investigate the heretics and put a stop to them.... but it might already be too late. A rival religion, whose teachings defy the Order, can only mean one thing: a holy war is about to begin.

Who would prevail?

We shall soon find out.












RULES:




Town (versus) Cult (versus) Cult.
If the Cult Leaders are destroyed, cultists revert to their original alignment.
Regular townies can win with either cult.
Town will have incorruptible members who cannot be converted, their goal is town victory only.
Cult leaders cannot be corrupted, their alignment will always remain the same.
Cultists can be re-converted to a different alignment.
It will not be known to the converter whether or not conversion was successful.
Failed conversion does not reveal who tried to convert you.
Every round, someone will be lynched.
No Lynch is not an option.
Abstain votes are legal as long as there is at least one person voting to lynch.
Quoting/copying/pasting your role PM is not allowed.

Revealing who you are and what your goals are, publicly, or privately, is legal. It may not be wise, but it's legal.
Cult leaders will be granted cover roles. Mass reveals will not solve the game.
Alignment will NOT be revealed upon death. :evil:
Dead players cannot vote or perform any actions.
Dead players may not reveal their alignment or previous actions.
There may be other roles in the game besides basic townies and cult leaders.




Voting procedure:

Vote: Abstain
is legal when someone else has voted to lynch a player.

Vote: Player
is considered a legal vote.

Unvote.
is considered a legal way to change your vote to an abstain. This will not be counted if everyone else has abstained.

Unvote, vote: Player
is considered a legal way to switch votes.




Endgame:


When all players who can be converted have been converted at least once, the remaining Cult Leaders can choose to murder instead of converting someone.
They can convert instead of murdering as well.
This will continue until all Cult Leaders have been destroyed, or only one Cult remains, with enough votes to win outright.



BEGIN DAY ONE.

You will have 48 hours to discuss the situation, and try to point your finger at one of the heretics among you. After that, I'm going to try to shorten it to 24 hour days and nights.





Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Captain Blackadder
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
issaikhaan
Major Robert Dump
Mr Stuka
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Specifically, this round will end at 0259 hours (2:59:59 AM) Monday the 27th, Eastern time USA.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: ATPG or whoever is his avatar in this particular game

Getting the potential weirdness out of the way right now.


Also, Askthepizzaguy is really awesome.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: ATPG or whoever is his avatar in this particular game

Getting the potential weirdness out of the way right now.

Pssshhh. Like your little votes frighten me. :rolleyes:

[TheLastDays]

Vote: ATPG or whoever is his avatar in this particular game

Getting the potential weirdness out of the way right now.

Now you beat me to it... :brood:

still vote: ATPG

It never hurts, does it?

[seireikhaan]

3rd on the bandwagon, oooooooh yeah!

vote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh yeah?

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[Major Robert Dump]

Okay, lets try to figure out what the team distribution will be.

Obviously there are cult leaders and (per the game rules) at least 2 cults. The rules also mention other roles that aren't townie or cult, so maybe a serial killer or the like. That leaves 14 other people to account for. 14 v 2 v 1 seem kind of long odds for the cult and the serial killer. Unless the cults start with organic members other than the leader which would change the composition to who knows what. For example, are both cults equal or do they get specific talents?

Since cultists revert back to original cult after the (new) cult leader dies, I see a lot of misinformation getting thrown around when a cult leader gets lynched since his alignment won't be revealed but the remaining cult will regain members. I would say the most dangerous time in the game for townies will be if and when a cult leader is knocked off because of the sudden mass shift of members into one cult.

[Renata]

I think you're assuming too much; cults almost by definition begin with just the leader.

vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

He looks scummy.

[classical_hero]

vote: Diamondeye since random told me so. Thankfully it is not say to vote for me again, but it was close.

[Diamondeye]

Vote: Believer. Rather you than Renata.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" - I doubt that You are without a sin, Mr.Mafia

[Mr. Stuka]

"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" - I doubt that You are without a sin, Mr.Mafia
Just skimming that, it seemed like a good case.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

[Believer]

Vote: Believer. Rather you than Renata.

Is it really just one or the other?

OMGUS: Vote: Diamondeye

[Diamondeye]

Is it really just one or the other?

OMGUS: Vote: Diamondeye

:stare: I know you're unreliable as long as Renata is around. And rather you than her. So there. Do you deny it? :inquisitive:

[Renata]

I could promise never to talk to him, if that would help.

[Secura]

vote: Mr. Stuka

[Diamondeye]

I could promise never to talk to him, if that would help.

I'm not sure it would be enough. He'd follow your lead even if he only had your public posts to go by. His mind is ripe, defenseless against the charms of those who hate pizza.

[TheLastDays]

So you guys seriously don't think we should lynch Pizza?

[Romanic]

vote: issaikhaan

For trying to lynch our host. :grin:

[seireikhaan]

Knowing Pizza, he tried very dearly to make the game's title mean something. The surprise is that he's the bad guy. I know you might be thinking, "but 'Khaan, that's not a surprise, coming from Pizza!" But that's why its a surprise. Pizza is totally wifom'ing us.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Knowing Pizza, he tried very dearly to make the game's title mean something. The surprise is that he's the bad guy. I know you might be thinking, "but 'Khaan, that's not a surprise, coming from Pizza!" But that's why its a surprise. Pizza is totally wifom'ing us.

:grin:

I have succeeded in completely destroying your mind. My work here is finished.

[Major Robert Dump]

I don't mean to be a whiney butt, but could someone in the proper timezone make a post and tell me what time it is so I can track turn deadlines better? I'm travelling between Kabul and some *cough* other places so my timezones vary from -10.5 to -12.5 etc

I CONFUSE

[Captain Blackadder]

Welcome vote

Vote Populus Romanus

[Major Robert Dump]

Nevermind I changed the CP to Eastern Time, forgot I could do that.

[Diamondeye]

unvote; vote: Issaikhaan

Self-preservation, really. I hate being on the menu day one :sad:

[TheLastDays]

Since cultists revert back to original cult after the (new) cult leader dies, I see a lot of misinformation getting thrown around when a cult leader gets lynched since his alignment won't be revealed but the remaining cult will regain members. I would say the most dangerous time in the game for townies will be if and when a cult leader is knocked off because of the sudden mass shift of members into one cult.

Wait, ATPG, will recruits revert back to their original alignment or their previous alignment if their current cult leader dies?

[Believer]

:stare: I know you're unreliable as long as Renata is around. And rather you than her. So there. Do you deny it? :inquisitive:

Unreliable, no.
Predictable, more like it.

[TheLastDays]

Tally-time:

Askthepizzaguy: 3 (GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays, issaikhaan)

Diamondeye: 2 (classical_hero, Believer)
GeneralHankerchief: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, Mr. Stuka)
issaikhaan: 2 (Romanic, Diamondeye)

ArpeggiateTHIS: 1 (Renata)
Mr. Stuka: 1 (Secura)
Poulus Romanus: 1 (Captain Blackadder)

Do we know how ties will be resolved?

[Believer]

Unvote; Vote: TheLastDays

I remember last game.

[TheLastDays]

You do, don't you?

That's your second OMGUS vote today though...

[Populus Romanus]

Welcome vote

Vote Populus RomanusOMGUS

vote: Captain Blackadder

[Major Robert Dump]

vote: issaikhaan

hope I'm not late

[seireikhaan]

You should probably not lynch me. Just sayin'. Pizza is way scummier.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Round is over. Standby for execution.

[Askthepizzaguy]

DAY ONE



The Pizza-eaters gathered together, and began accusing one another of being heretics. The local magistrate was overseeing these events, but the crowd had obviously gone mad, and some began accusing the local magistrate himself.... the one known as Askthepizzaguy.


The charismatic leader of this group was a General of some sort (nothing to sneeze at!) and as such, he held powerful sway over the others. Soon, they began to follow his lead... and a small gathering of peasants surrounded the magistrate. One of the peasants stepped forward.


issaikhaan: "It's you! You're the heretic among us, pizza man! I know this because you have a dark and scummy past, and you like to melt the minds of mortal men with maddening plot twists! You, magistrate, are the corrupter of the people!"



Askthepizzaguy: "Is that so?"


issaikhaan: "It is so!"


Askthepizzaguy: "Are you sure?"


issaikhaan: "Quite sure!"


Askthepizzaguy: "Are you absolutely positive?"


issaikhaan: "Never been more sure of anything in my life!"


Askthepizzaguy: "WELL YOU'RE WRONG!!!"



And so, the magistrate pulled out a revolver, and fired it at issaikhaan.



*BANG*

Askthepizzaguy: "THIS IS FOR GREATERKHAAN!!!"


And the magistrate fired again.

*BANG*

Askthepizzaguy: "THIS IS FOR MAKAIKHAAN!!!"


And the magistrate fired again.

*BANG*

Askthepizzaguy: "THIS IS FOR SEIREIKHAAN!!!"


And the magistrate fired again.

*BANG*

Askthepizzaguy: "THIS IS FOR SHINSEIKHAAN!!!"


And the magistrate fired again.

*BANG*

Askthepizzaguy: "THIS IS FOR YASEIKHAAN!!!"


And the magistrate fired again.

*BANG*

Askthepizzaguy: "THIS IS FOR ISSAIKHAAN!!!"


And the magistrate fired again, but nothing happened. Everyone stood there, wondering what was wrong.


Askthepizzaguy: "Hold on, hold on.... stupid revolver. I have to reload...."


Everyone, including 'khaan, waited patiently for Askthepizzaguy to fumble through his pockets for a box of bullets, and clumsily load each one into the gun.


Askthepizzaguy: "THIS IS FOR ISSAIKHAAN!!!"


*BANG*


Askthepizzaguy: "AND THIS IS FOR ME!!!"


*BANG*




Everyone waited for 'khaan to fall over dead, but he just stood there. In fact, he seemed in good spirits.


issaikhaan: "Well, your aim could use some improvement, it seems."



Askthepizzaguy: "Fine.... have it your way. Guards! Take him away! He's a blasphemer, spreading vile lies about the wondrous Pizza!"


Without further ado, several heavily armed guards took issaikhaan away to be tried for heresy. Bad things happened to 'khaan.


Terrible things!


And then he died and stuff.





Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Captain Blackadder
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Mr Stuka
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan



This round will end in 24 hours if I have all the orders, but I'll grant an extension if needed.



NIGHT ONE

[GeneralHankerchief]

You missed one of his nicknames. :smartass2:


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[seireikhaan]

You missed one of his nicknames. :smartass2:
:sweetheart:

I told you Pizza was a monster. Forgetting the divine one, what a monster.

[Askthepizzaguy]

And so, the magistrate pulled out another revolver, and ordered issaikhaan's corpse to be brought before him. He jumped atop the fallen one, straddled his chest, and aimed the weapon right at issaikhaan's face.





Askthepizzaguy: "....AND THIS IS FOR KAMIKHAAN!!!"


*BANG*
*BANG*
*BANG*
*BANG*
*BANG*
*BANG*


There was nothing left of khaan's face. While he wasn't any deader than he was already, the ground was a lot gooier.



Askthepizzaguy: "At 7000 posts, I'll call you Gooeykhaan".

[Major Robert Dump]

How many credits will we get at the end of each night phase and how much does it cost to use my item?

I'm guessing the two factions are pizza delivery chains. The serial killer role is probably either an armed robber named Tyrone or an unchained pit bull named Stonewall in a trailer park. (both true stories, I worked "in the business" for many years.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have been attacked by unchained pit bulls just hanging around in people's yards unattended after their owners ordered pizza.

I should have the legal right to drive my car over their dog and straight through their living room whenever that happens. I would, with pleasure. The stupidity of the average human being is astounding to me, and stupidity should have consequences.

[Major Robert Dump]

Hows about wheeled toys (and other hazards) on dark porch steps and no one turns on the freaking porch lights.

Or snow drifts that are so high they cannot open the glass outer door, so they say they need to cancel unless you can help them clear the sidewalk (with no tip afterwards)

Or husbands/kids/friends who get the money from mom/dad, wait for payer to walk off, and then they pocket the tip right in front of you. One dad left me a check with a tip to order for the kid what they always order, and the little tart babysitter asked for the difference back in cash. I told her only if she showed me her breasts.

My personal favorite is Have-The-Baby-Pay-Because-its-cute-and-i-wont-feel-guilty-about-not-tipping customers.

But I really loved that job for a while, until we got a new owner. Lots of smokeouts in the walk-in cooler, late night parties with the other chains disgruntled employees and having sex with girls who smell like pizza. My only regret is that I never got to shoot anyone.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hows about wheeled toys (and other hazards) on dark porch steps and no one turns on the freaking porch lights.

Or snow drifts that are so high they cannot open the glass outer door, so they say they need to cancel unless you can help them clear the sidewalk (with no tip afterwards)

Or husbands/kids/friends who get the money from mom/dad, wait for payer to walk off, and then they pocket the tip right in front of you. One dad left me a check with a tip to order for the kid what they always order, and the little tart babysitter asked for the difference back in cash. I told her only if she showed me her breasts.

My personal favorite is Have-The-Baby-Pay-Because-its-cute-and-i-wont-feel-guilty-about-not-tipping customers.

But I really loved that job for a while, until we got a new owner. Lots of smokeouts in the walk-in cooler, late night parties with the other chains disgruntled employees and having sex with girls who smell like pizza. My only regret is that I never got to shoot anyone.

This is definitely worthy of a backroom thread, so let's open one and stop spamming my own game. :laugh4:



Here it is: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136408-Pizzaguy-s-log-On-the-job-horror-stories

[classical_hero]

I can't access that link you put up ATPG. Perhaps you should be taught how to treat dogs who are not properly trained.

[Diamondeye]

Didn't you forget Yaseikhaan too or is that just me?

[TheLastDays]

I thought I read Yaseikhaan... *goes to check* ...yep, it's there :D

Also I usually tip generously when I order pizza (or anything, for that matter) dunno why, probably don't want to feel guilty or something ^^

[Major Robert Dump]

It's so quiet in here. I know that cults are secetive and all, but at least leave some scary candle arrangements or latin devil worship chants.

What do Pizza cults sacrifice to appease the gods?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Interestingly, I think I am actually missing orders. Which is nifty because certain people were in fact active. :stare:

I'll give you until tonight. Get those orders in peoples.

[Diamondeye]

Interestingly, I think I am actually missing orders. Which is nifty because certain people were in fact active. :stare:

I'll give you until tonight. Get those orders in peoples.

I'll place a bucket of water over my door so any cultist who tries to enter will get SOAKED.

Then we can lynch whoever's sneezing tomorrow.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bah, close enough....



NIGHT ONE







The peasants gathered together in the morning, to find Askthepizzaguy weeping uncontrollably. One of them approached him and asked the magistrate guy what was wrong, to which the magistrate replied:


Askthepizzaguy: "You made me kill him! You people and your voting.... I didn't want to kill this man, for he was the prettiest one among you. And now look at him.... look at his beautiful face...."


Askthepizzaguy scooped up an unrecognizable mess of dirt, blood, and fleshy bits from the ground.


Askthepizzaguy: "Even now, in this state, he's still the prettiest one here, besides me of course. Now, find me a heretic, or you'll soon find yourselves splattered on the ground next to khaan."


Askthepizzaguy pulled out yet another revolver and waved it around at the peasants to encourage their participation.


Askthepizzaguy: "Also, nothing happens if you try to lynch me."


Pizza waved the gun at GH.


Askthepizzaguy: "I unclog my nose in your general direction. Let the accusations commence!"






Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Captain Blackadder
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Mr Stuka
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:






Please spend the next 24 hours discussing and voting!

BEGIN DAY TWO

[TheLastDays]

Right, as if you didn't enjoy killing 'khaan...

random says vote: Secura

[Major Robert Dump]

So who got recruited? I'm curious what kind discount card and dental package these organizations offer.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Captain Blackadder

I have my reasons. But this isn't just some random bandwagon, so I need people to help me out here.


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Captain Blackadder

I have my reasons. But this isn't just some random bandwagon, so I need people to help me out here.

Just because this is not some random bandwagon and GH have a reason.

Vote: Captain Blackadder

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Vote: Captain Blackadder

I have my reasons. But this isn't just some random bandwagon, so I need people to help me out here.

Clever game you're playing there, because there are no reveals upon death and therefore nobody will know the validity of your claims until the end.

Still, Vote: Mr Stuka.

[TheLastDays]

Vote: Captain Blackadder

I have my reasons. But this isn't just some random bandwagon, so I need people to help me out here.

If you could elaborate a bit on these reasons I might be willing to listen to you rather than the almighty random

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote: Captain Blackadder

I have my reasons. But this isn't just some random bandwagon, so I need people to help me out here.

Well you are certainly off base in that regard. Three possibilities are there. Option one you are mafia pulling an incrediably ballsy move. Option Two you are some kind of insane detective. Three you are some kind of crazy townie lying for no good reason at all.

[Renata]

Option 4: Crazy townie trying to see how scummy you do or don't look when you respond?

I don't know, someone falsely accuses me, I generally vote for him.
vote: Captain Blackadder

[Believer]

Vote: Renata

Yep.

[Diamondeye]

Vote: Believer

No U!

[Believer]

Vote: Believer

No U!

You so protective. Are you the blue or the red cult leader?


Psst.. Chess?

[Renata]

Blue. You found us out; I guess we should pack it in, Diamondeye. I'll get the noose.

[Diamondeye]

You so protective. Are you the blue or the red cult leader?

Psst.. Chess?

Blue Chess? Sounds good :beam:


Blue. You found us out; I guess we should pack it in, Diamondeye. I'll get the noose.

Cool. Get one for me too if you please.

[Renata]

....

That was the one for you.

[Diamondeye]

....

That was the one for you.

That's what they want you to believe.
Umph. Sorry.

[Romanic]

Vote: Captain Blackadder

I have my reasons. But this isn't just some random bandwagon, so I need people to help me out here.

I like this.

vote: Captain Blackadder

And I can't see why a mafia GH would pull off this move on Day 2, so I'm believing it.

[Mr. Stuka]

Well, I have a nagging sense Diamondeye is guilty. But why vote for him when I could jump on a bandwagon valid case?

Vote: Captain Blackadder

[Populus Romanus]

vote: Captain Blackadder resistance is futile

[Secura]

vote: Mr. Stuka

My reasons remain the same as yesterday; his D1 vote (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136251-It-s-a-surprise-mafia-In-Play&p=2053333730&viewfull=1#post2053333730) based on an off-the-cuff-remark that he deems to be a "good case", after skim-reading it? Really?

[Diamondeye]

Well, I have a nagging sense Diamondeye is guilty.

Everyone who doesn't agree, hands in the air please.

Also, I was going to vote with GH but that seems to be taken care of. No need to go overboard.

[TheLastDays]

vote: Mr. Stuka

My reasons remain the same as yesterday; his D1 vote (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136251-It-s-a-surprise-mafia-In-Play&p=2053333730&viewfull=1#post2053333730) based on an off-the-cuff-remark that he deems to be a "good case", after skim-reading it? Really?

I think you're scum, the almighty random is always right... I want to point out that this case has as much credibility as the wagon on Blackadder, still people seem to jump all over that one ^^

[Romanic]

I think you're scum, the almighty random is always right... I want to point out that this case has as much credibility as the wagon on Blackadder, still people seem to jump all over that one ^^

Which case are you referring to? Secura's or yours?

Personally I don't think there's a better case than GH's. Even if the setup makes it possible for a bad guy to make such a claim, I'm not seeing why he would choose to do it so early. My guess is that he really has information about Captain Blackadder.

And like Renata said, CB should have been more aggressive in his reply, if he really was Town, because in his eyes the accuser should be misguided. Yet he's not voting GH, not even voting anyone. Why is that so? I think he knows that he's been caught, and there's not much defense to be made.

[TheLastDays]

Do the rules forbid quoting things from anywhere private? (If so, can we paraphrase things?) That would explain GHs behaviour if he's seen something there... if it's not that, his case might be good but from what's in his post it's nothing

And I was referring to my "case" which can't really be called a case, I was just pointing out that GH's case as it stands is not much more... I'd still like to see some explanation for it... and even though it doesn't really do anything I think I'm going to pressure... unvote, vote: GeneralHankerchief

[Romanic]

GH's case holds a lot more than a random accusation because he's putting himself in the spotlight and will become a target for the mafia if he's telling the truth. Such a *strong* case is rarely available on Day 2, why do you hesitate? It looks like you're pushing to get more information from GH, when there's no real need for it. If GH is making a play, we have time to catch him later, particularly if he's still alive when he shouldn't be.

[TheLastDays]

My question is, what reason does he have to withhold the information that leads to his vote if he's an honest townie?

I'm not hesitating, my vote isn't needed on the CB-wagon... I'm trying to pick up some other hints and put pressure at other people...

Also how does he make himself a target in a game where the Mafia will not be able to kill him for a while?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm not going to explain myself beyond the fact that I have a good reason to vote for CB. Yes, this way I'm keeping everybody guessing. This is intentional.


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[Romanic]

Also how does he make himself a target in a game where the Mafia will not be able to kill him for a while?
We cannot be sure how long it will be before the mafia can kill, but at this point GH may very well be their first victim if he's truthful, thus yes he'll be a target, albeit perhaps not immediately (or perhaps yes, what do we know of the mafia abilities anyway?)

[Populus Romanus]

vote: GeneralHankerchief
I do not see what information he could possibly have.

[Romanic]

Populus, your last vote is invalid. You need to unvote first.

[Populus Romanus]

I already voted this round? Thanks.
unvote; vote: GeneralHankerchief

[classical_hero]

I am going to listen to GH and hopefully he has a point. vote:Captain Blackadder

[Major Robert Dump]

vote:Captain Blackadder
I may change this if an explanation is not posted. GeneralHankerchief: the only way I can think of that you have solid evidence is if BlackAdder was the target of a failed conversion, in which case in order for you to know this means you are in one of the cults.

If there is some sort of PM traffic that you were part of that incriminates BA then the town would very much like to be privvy to that info.

Edit: wasnt bolded

[Mr. Stuka]

vote: Mr. Stuka

My reasons remain the same as yesterday; his D1 vote (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136251-It-s-a-surprise-mafia-In-Play&p=2053333730&viewfull=1#post2053333730) based on an off-the-cuff-remark that he deems to be a "good case", after skim-reading it? Really?

Good case, got me there! I must be a cult leader because I voted for someone randomly on Day 1!

[Captain Blackadder]

Well I haven't got any messages from anyone. I have no idea how GH came up with his view that I am scum. He is wrong on that front and should be lynched. I have thought overnight and the only reason that I can think of him doing this that he is scum. ATPG doesn't like investigators so I doubt their is one in the game. Which means that he is a cult leader that attempted to convert me and failed. This makes me think I might have a hidden ability on that front. My role pm doesn't mention any ability to resist conversion however the rules do

Town will have incorruptible members who cannot be converted, their goal is town victory only.

Vote GeneralH

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok the round is over. Standby for the writeup.

[Major Robert Dump]

Unvote Blackadder
Vote: General Handkerchief

[Major Robert Dump]

damnit

[Askthepizzaguy]

DAY TWO



The Pizza-eaters gathered together, and began accusing one another of being heretics, once again.

This time, the charismatic leader of this group, a General, began accusing one of the lower-ranked peasants of being a dangerous heretic!


GeneralHankerchief: "General says vote Blackadder!"


Most everyone: "Okay!"


GeneralHankerchief: "Hmmm..... General says touch your toes!"


Most everyone: "Okay!"


GeneralHankerchief: "All right..... General says do the chicken dance!"


Most everyone: "Okay!"


GeneralHankerchief: "General says, stomp your feet, and wiggle your ears!"


Most everyone: "Okay!"


GeneralHankerchief: "Now, strip completely naked and run around screaming 'shabba-dabba-doobie' with your eyes closed!"


Believer: "SHABBA DABBA DOOBIE!!!"


GeneralHankerchief: "Ah, ah, ah..... I didn't say General says!"


Believer: :shame:


Askthepizzaguy: "Are you crazy?"


GeneralHankerchief: "Crazy like an escaped mental patient! Now bring Captain Blackadder to justice!"


Askthepizzaguy: "All right. I guess I will. Are you prepared to meet your doom, Captain?"


Captain Blackadder: "Hmm.... let me think. How about no, you silly banana. You're all a bunch of sheep! Sheep I tells ya! Baaaaahh! Baaaahhhh!"


Askthepizzaguy: "Sheep, you say? Well, you gotta admit this is a..... sticky.... situation...." :laugh4:


Captain Blackadder: "Wait... that doesn't even make any sense! What does sheep have to do wi-"



The magistrate raised his revolver and fired it at point-blank range, splattering Blackadder's brains all over everyone. Slowly, the headless body of Blackadder slumped to the ground.



Askthepizzaguy: "All right. Something tells me there's still more of them out there, and we can't even be sure Blackadder was guilty. Everyone, I order you to go get some sleep!"


Everyone slowly started to back away, and go home for the evening...


Askthepizzaguy: "Yes.... in Soviet gameroom, Pizza orders you."






Blackadder: GH, IK, Renata, Romanic, Mr Stuka, classical_hero, MRD,
GH: TLD, Populus Romanus, CB
Mr Stuka: AT, Secura,
Renata: Believer
Believer: DE


Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Mr Stuka
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:
Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:



This round will end in 24 hours if I have all the orders, but I'll grant an extension if needed.



NIGHT TWO

[Secura]

Good case, got me there! I must be a cult leader because I voted for someone randomly on Day 1!

You can as facetious as you like, but that isn't what your vote says:

Just skimming that, it seemed like a good case.

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

This post implies three things; that you skim-read Ibn's post (how does one skim-read a sentence?), that you believed he was making a good point and that you joined him in voting for GH. It does not imply that your vote was randomised; au contraire, in fact.


ATPG doesn't like investigators so I doubt their is one in the game.

It's true that Pizza isn't too fond of investigators (and roleblockers, killers...) metagaming him, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't use them in his own games (wasn't there an investigative role in Revengening 2?); my guess is that they'd be in a reduced capacity though, probably scanning for something like susceptibility to recruitment rather than outright alignment.


Which means that he is a cult leader that attempted to convert me and failed. This makes me think I might have a hidden ability on that front.

Unfortunately, that isn't possible, because the rules state the following:

It will not be known to the converter whether or not conversion was successful.

Only GH knows what his reasoning was for your lynch.

[Believer]

Believer: "SHABBA DABBA DOOBIE!!!"


You are never watching me sleep again. :angry:

[Diamondeye]

You are never watching me sleep again. :angry:

Or is he? :curtain:

[classical_hero]

:laugh: @Believer in the write up.

[Believer]

:laugh: @Believer in the write up.

I was never really good at si... General says.

[Mr. Stuka]

You can as facetious as you like, but that isn't what your vote says:


This post implies three things; that you skim-read Ibn's post (how does one skim-read a sentence?), that you believed he was making a good point and that you joined him in voting for GH. It does not imply that your vote was randomised; au contraire, in fact.

If I remember correctly, you also voted for me in the ill-fated KnightTimeII(:shame:). Now, you can't possibly think I'm scummy in two games, can you?

This implies to me that you have some kind of personal grudge against me, for some reason. You best drop it so we can find the real cult leaders.

[Captain Blackadder]

GH now that I am dead can you please explain your reasoning behind your view? Also I will hound you on this one at the end of the game if you role town at this point. Since to be quite honest if you are town then what you did was at least not in my mind in the spirit of the game, the only mitigating factor would be if you are scum in which case I bow my hat to you for getting a townie lynched with great ease and no explanation.

[Secura]

If I remember correctly, you also voted for me in the ill-fated KnightTimeII(:shame:). Now, you can't possibly think I'm scummy in two games, can you?

This implies to me that you have some kind of personal grudge against me, for some reason. You best drop it so we can find the real cult leaders.

My only vote in that game was a joke vote for Amsel's pun, you voted for me based on that, I didn't vote for you at all. In this game, your opening vote strikes me as odd, moreso since you rationalised it as being randomised even though the comment that accompanied it inferred anything but; I can't be the only person to think this, surely?

Your second paragraph disheartens me, though; I'm not one for holding grudges and I don't really understand how you'd infer that from my accusations, particularly as our interactions prior to this game have really been nil. I'm truly sorry that you feel that way. :/

[Mr. Stuka]

My only vote in that game was a joke vote for Amsel's pun, you voted for me based on that, I didn't vote for you at all. In this game, your opening vote strikes me as odd, moreso since you rationalised it as being randomised even though the comment that accompanied it inferred anything but; I can't be the only person to think this, surely?

Your second paragraph disheartens me, though; I'm not one for holding grudges and I don't really understand how you'd infer that from my accusations, particularly as our interactions prior to this game have really been nil. I'm truly sorry that you feel that way. :/

Oh yea, I guess you're right. you didn't vote for me that game. Sorry, my mistake. But still, voting for me two days in a row based based off a Day 1 vote is kind of ridiculous.

[Diamondeye]

My only vote in that game was a joke vote for Amsel's pun, you voted for me based on that, I didn't vote for you at all. In this game, your opening vote strikes me as odd, moreso since you rationalised it as being randomised even though the comment that accompanied it inferred anything but; I can't be the only person to think this, surely?

Nope, Little Monster. :beam:

[GeneralHankerchief]

GH now that I am dead can you please explain your reasoning behind your view?

Nope, not yet anyways.


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[Mr. Stuka]

Nope, Little Monster. :beam:

You, you agree with Secura? Fine, make me cry! :cry:

[Diamondeye]

You, you agree with Secura? Fine, make me cry! :cry:

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second tah-me!

[Mr. Stuka]

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second tah-me!

Yeeeees, Master.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Oh, by the way, in case anybody is thinking of putting a serious amount of pressure votes on me next round to get me to talk, it isn't going to happen.

Askthepizzaguy rules!

[robbiecon]

Oh, by the way, in case anybody is thinking of putting a serious amount of pressure votes on me next round to get me to talk, it isn't going to happen.

Fine, we'll pressure you now! :p

[Captain Blackadder]

Nope, not yet anyways.

Just curious how you came up with that horrible excuse for "evidence" since you were wrong so very wrong about me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

NIGHT TWO




Askthepizzaguy ran around town wielding a metal trash can lid, and banging it with a huge wooden spoon.


Askthepizzaguy: "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up everyone! Time to play General says one more time!"


Some of them crawled from their homes, very groggy. The sun hadn't even come up yet. Why was Pizza tormenting them this early?


Askthepizzaguy: "Because I can! And yes, I can read your minds!"


So, after some coffee, they began to wearily point fingers at one another.







Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Mr Stuka
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:
Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:



This round will end in 24 hours.



DAY THREE

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Again, Vote: Mr Stuka

[Major Robert Dump]

But what about teh lurkies?

[Diamondeye]

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

[TheLastDays]

I'll have to vote: GeneralHankerchief

This is not a pressure vote, this is a vote to get you lynched if you don't work for the town.

Honestly I see no reason for the way you wagoned Blackadder yesterday if you are a pro town role, now notice, I'm not saying Blackadder wasn't scum, he defended very poorly and looked scummy while doing so, but if you are not working for some personal goal other than a town win I don't see the reason for withholding the information you have... especially at a stage where there probably won't be any murders right now...

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm not working for a personal goal or anything beyond a town win.

I fully realize that this stance I'm taking will get me lynched and quickly, but frankly from where I am, being lynched is worth keeping my reasons to myself.



Askthepizzaguy rules!

[Major Robert Dump]

Is there a fate worse than lynching you are trying to avoid? Being smothered by fat guys in bannana hammocks for eternity? Eating at Waffle House every meal for the rest of your life? Having to listen to Rush and never being able to turn it off?

[classical_hero]

I'm not working for a personal goal or anything beyond a town win.

I fully realize that this stance I'm taking will get me lynched and quickly, but frankly from where I am, being lynched is worth keeping my reasons to myself.You could share it with someone you trust.

[[MAFIA] Giorgio]

I'll just leave quietly :creep:

[Believer]

Vote: General Hankerchief

Seems reasonable for now.

[Captain Blackadder]

I'm not working for a personal goal or anything beyond a town win.

I fully realize that this stance I'm taking will get me lynched and quickly, but frankly from where I am, being lynched is worth keeping my reasons to myself.

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Trust me everyone from my end GH behaviour this entire game is incredibly amusing.

[Mr. Stuka]

Guys, I have feeling GH isn't scummy.
So, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

[GeneralHankerchief]

I enjoy Rush, despite their misfortune of having been born a hundred miles or so too north. :stare:

(also, happy Canada Day! :canada:)



Askthepizzaguy rules!

[Populus Romanus]

vote: General Hankerchief

[Secura]

So, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

vote: Mr. Stuka

It's like you're ticking all the boxes on purpose now.

[Romanic]

I'll have to vote: GeneralHankerchief

This is not a pressure vote, this is a vote to get you lynched if you don't work for the town.

Honestly I see no reason for the way you wagoned Blackadder yesterday if you are a pro town role, now notice, I'm not saying Blackadder wasn't scum, he defended very poorly and looked scummy while doing so, but if you are not working for some personal goal other than a town win I don't see the reason for withholding the information you have... especially at a stage where there probably won't be any murders right now...

That's the second time you're pushing for GH to reveal his information. While I have difficulties seeing a scummy motivation for him, to make this move on Day 2, I don't for you. Either you're picking the easiest lynch target around, or you want to get rid of a potential dangerous Town role. Either way it's a potential scummy motivation.

vote: TheLastDays

[Diamondeye]

(also, happy Canada Day! :canada:)

How do you get 200 Canadians out of the pool?
By asking nicely

[ArpeggiateTHIS]

Guys, I have feeling GH isn't scummy.
So, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS

Blatant OMGus. Where's the bandwagon when you need it?

[Renata]

Right here.

vote: Mr Stuka

[Believer]

Unvote;
Vote: Abstain

[Ibn-Khaldun]

To kill the General you first kill his underlings..

Vote: Major Robert Dump

[GeneralHankerchief]

Because I would like to stay alive:

Vote: Mr. Stuka



Askthepizzaguy rules!

[TheLastDays]

That's the second time you're pushing for GH to reveal his information. While I have difficulties seeing a scummy motivation for him, to make this move on Day 2, I don't for you. Either you're picking the easiest lynch target around, or you want to get rid of a potential dangerous Town role. Either way it's a potential scummy motivation.

vote: TheLastDays

Well give me a case on someone else and I might follow suit, right now GH's behaviour is what seems the most scummy to me. I don't think the information he's hiding is that he's some scanner because why would he hide that? That's what everybody thinks anyways if GH is town.

[Mr. Stuka]

Blatant OMGus. Where's the bandwagon when you need it?

And still no reason why you voted for me twice now? But of course, I am OMGusing(?)

and really GH? after I told them you weren't scummy? Oh well, I'd like to stay alive too. unvote; vote: GeneralHankerchief

[GeneralHankerchief]

and really GH? after I told them you weren't scummy?

Tell you what, compromise?

Unvote: Mr. Stuka
Vote: TheLastDays

His vote's already on me. :tongue:



Askthepizzaguy rules!

[TheLastDays]

I'll have to vote: GeneralHankerchief

This is not a pressure vote, this is a vote to get you lynched if you don't work for the town.

Honestly I see no reason for the way you wagoned Blackadder yesterday if you are a pro town role, now notice, I'm not saying Blackadder wasn't scum, he defended very poorly and looked scummy while doing so, but if you are not working for some personal goal other than a town win I don't see the reason for withholding the information you have... especially at a stage where there probably won't be any murders right now...


Vote: General Hankerchief

Seems reasonable for now.

Fair enough.


That's the second time you're pushing for GH to reveal his information. While I have difficulties seeing a scummy motivation for him, to make this move on Day 2, I don't for you. Either you're picking the easiest lynch target around, or you want to get rid of a potential dangerous Town role. Either way it's a potential scummy motivation.

vote: TheLastDays

A valid point but I'm not moving my vote as long as I don't have a better suspect than GH.


Unvote;
Vote: Abstain

Huh? No reason given? Why? Just after Romanic has pointed out that voting for GH might put one on the scum-radar it's not "reasonable" anymore? Why was it "reasonable" before? Because you could jump onto a wagon unnoticed without really explaining it?

I think I have a better suspect...

unvote, vote: Believer

[TheLastDays]

@GH: :furious3:

now I might have to rethink that...

[Mr. Stuka]

Tell you what, compromise?

Unvote: Mr. Stuka
Vote: TheLastDays

His vote's already on me. :tongue:

Okay, sounds good to me. Now my vote goes back to ArpeggiateTHIS for 2 days of voting for me with no reason given. unvote, vote:ArpeggiateTHIS

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can't stay awake.... round will end at 00:40 regardless (the 24 hour mark) unless it's tied. If it is tied, the round will continue until you break the tie.

Will do writeup when I wake up.

[Major Robert Dump]

test to see what time it is before I make an A** out of myself

[Major Robert Dump]

Man my time is all jacked up.

[Romanic]

The deadline was one hour ago.

[Major Robert Dump]

Its 1030 am here, the sun rises at 0330, sets at 1900, the wind won't stop and I haven't pooped in 5 days. This be worse than Paktya

[Askthepizzaguy]

You need more vegetables in your system. Come here, let me drive this carrot through your heart. :wiseguy:



Stuka: Arpeg, Secura, Renata,
GH: DE, PR,
TLD: Romanic, GH
MRD: IK
Believer: TLD
Arpeg: Stuka

Talleh. Writeup to begin immediately soon.

[Askthepizzaguy]

DAY THREE





Askthepizzaguy: "Okay! Who is guilty of heresy this time?"


They looked toward their leader, General H. It seemed that Generals A through G were complete failures. Perhaps they were unprepared for leadership. But General H knew all about preparation. That's why his nickname was..... Hanky?


General Hanky: "General says do the Bartman!"


And it was so. They all did the Bartman.


General Hanky: "General says he's innocent."


And it was so. They all nodded in agreement.


General Hanky: "General says he's not a heretic!"


And it was so. They all nodded in agreement.


General Hanky: "General says that Mister Stuka will move his vote, and let me live!"


And it was so. Mister Stuka did exactly as he was told.


Askthepizzaguy: "You're freakish, I just want you to know that. People say I can make people do what I want, but you.... Hanky, are something else. You are the man who stares at goats."


General Hanky stared at a goat, and made it explode. Everyone applauded.


Then General Hanky stared at Mister Stuka, and he was blown into smithereens.


Askthepizzaguy: "Okay everyone! The sun went down a long time ago, and that means it's almost time to wake up and do this again. Get yourself about five minutes of sleep, and then I'll be in to wake you up with a garden hose."




Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:
Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:
Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/pissed.gif



This round will end in 24 hours. An extension will be granted if I don't get all the orders in.



NIGHT THREE

[Mr. Stuka]

I do like Katy Perry.
...and I forgot TheLastDays changed his vote from GH....:wall:

[Believer]

I do like Katy Perry.
...and I forgot TheLastDays changed his vote from GH....:wall:

He has an obsession for voting me when I'm innocent. We all catch some of the bad sides of it now and then.

[Major Robert Dump]

Oh, Stuka, that was friggin classic.

[TheLastDays]

He has an obsession for voting me when I'm innocent. We all catch some of the bad sides of it now and then.

Well, instead of smart-talking, you could explain your vote change last day. Especially why you changed it to an abstain D3.

[Believer]

Well, instead of smart-talking, you could explain your vote change last day. Especially why you changed it to an abstain D3.

I couldn't let you lynch my cult leader, of course.

[Major Robert Dump]

And what is the name of this cult?

[Mr. Stuka]

Oh, Stuka, that was friggin classic.
:2thumbsup: Great! that's the only reason I was playing you know, to get some laughs outta you guys with my wacky antics, such as dying!

[TheLastDays]

I couldn't let you lynch my cult leader, of course.

Come on, I never said you were trying to "save" GH. I said you were pulling out of a bandwagon after Romanic's post suggested that voting for GH could be interpreted as scummy. That's why I'm asking: If I am wrong, why did you change your vote, especially when you obviously didn't have a better suspect and thus abstained?

If you're still holding grudges because I made a mistake in Music Mafia, fine, I'll say again that I'm sorry but please answer my question...

[Believer]

And what is the name of this cult?

Black September. Our main goal is to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and liberate the glorious nation of Serbia.


Come on, I never said you were trying to "save" GH. I said you were pulling out of a bandwagon after Romanic's post suggested that voting for GH could be interpreted as scummy. That's why I'm asking: If I am wrong, why did you change your vote, especially when you obviously didn't have a better suspect and thus abstained?

If you're still holding grudges because I made a mistake in Music Mafia, fine, I'll say again that I'm sorry but please answer my question...

I had no suspects at all.

[Diamondeye]

Black September. Our main goal is to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and liberate the glorious nation of Serbia.

My old archnemesis!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll post an update after work.... which is in about 11 hours from now.

[TheLastDays]

I had no suspects at all.

Ok, then why vote GH in the first place and what has changed between your vote for him and your abstain?

[Believer]

Ok, then why vote GH in the first place and what has changed between your vote for him and your abstain?

I wanted to pressure him into opening up about his info he had on CB.

I realized he wouldn't do it.

[Diamondeye]

I wanted to pressure him into opening up about his info he had on CB.

I realized he wouldn't do it.

Hello,

You're starting to sound like Saregona.

You certainly look like him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

NIGHT THREE




OUCH!!!

OUCH!!!!



You wake up and see Askthepizzaguy at the foot of your bed, beating you with a garden hose.



Askthepizzaguy: "WAKE UP!!! WAKE UP!!! It's time for more heretic-hunting, sleepy-head!!! BWAHAHAHAAAA!!!!"



You're really starting to hate that guy.






Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Believer
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:
Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:
Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/pissed.gif



This round will end in 24 hours.



DAY FOUR

[classical_hero]

vote:GeneralHankerchief I just don't think he has been all that helpful to the town cause.

[Believer]

Vote: Secura

Post more, we need you if town.

[TheLastDays]

vote: Ibn-Khaldun

say something...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

What do you want me to say?

[TheLastDays]

Well don't you have anything to say?

[Secura]

Post more, we need you if town.

This is a fair point, though I'm unsure whether you're merely trying to encourage me into posting more or you're actually implying that I might be lurking, which I abhor and wouldn't resort to were I town or scum.

Anyway, I'm going to vote: classical_hero today.

Your vote feels a little lazy and seems to lack any real conviction this time around; you accuse GH of being disruptive to the town's cause, but he only seems so because you're allowing his behaviour to distract you.

Lynching GH isn't going to result in him revealing his reasons for the Blackadder lynch, and in a game with no reveals we only have Blackadder's word that he was innocent, which begs the question of what you hope to achieve by lynching GH? Heck, I'd also like to know what it is that GH would have to gain by getting Blackadder lynched when he could've employed that tactic against someone like Renata or Romanic?

[Believer]

This is a fair point, though I'm unsure whether you're merely trying to encourage me into posting more or you're actually implying that I might be lurking, which I abhor and wouldn't resort to were I town or scum.


No mistress, I would never dare! Please don't hurt Believer. Believer good!


Your vote feels a little lazy and seems to lack any real conviction this time around; you accuse GH of being disruptive to the town's cause, but he only seems so because you're allowing his behaviour to distract you.
You got me by the balls here. I have nothing good, that's why I'm poking better players for something.


Lynching GH isn't going to result in him revealing his reasons for the Blackadder lynch, and in a game with no reveals we only have Blackadder's word that he was innocent, which begs the question of what you hope to achieve by lynching GH? Heck, I'd also like to know what it is that GH would have to gain by getting Blackadder lynched when he could've employed that tactic against someone like Renata or Romanic?

Perhaps. I was considering the fact that he might be bluffing. Obviously he wasn't, or he's too cool to give it away to some pressure.
I lack good initiative in this game, I want something tangible but can't seem to grasp at it. Give me something to shoot!

[Secura]

You got me by the balls here. I have nothing good, that's why I'm poking better players for something.

My comments after the vote were aimed at classical_hero, not you! :3

[Diamondeye]

Vote: Believer.

[TheLastDays]

unvote, vote: classical_hero

[Believer]

My comments after the vote were aimed at classical_hero, not you! :3

I stand by my balls and your grip of them.


Vote: Believer.

Sup?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well don't you have anything to say?

Actualy, no. This is not exactly the usual mafia game and I'm really confused.

[Diamondeye]

Sup?

I just did, thank you very much.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Major Robert Dump

I still think he is guilty.

[Major Robert Dump]

No.

Vote: Believer

Because he is in a cult

[GeneralHankerchief]

Since that's a pretty definitive statement:

Vote: Believer


Askthepizzaguy rules!

[Believer]

I just did, thank you very much.

I think the forum rules dictate that we both speak and interpret in English, my nordic friend. :)

Why vote me? (The same goes for MJD and GH)

[Romanic]

No.

Vote: Believer

Because he is in a cult
Do you know this for a fact?

[Romanic]

I don't understand this from you TheLastDays:


vote: Ibn-Khaldun

say something...

What do you want me to say?

Well don't you have anything to say?

unvote, vote: classical_hero
How are you satisfied enough with Ibn's answer to unvote him?

The "don't you have anything to say?" implies that Ibn should have something to say, and you're right, he should have, if he's looking for scum. But then you simply unvote him before he answers.

Plus you're now voting classical_hero without giving a reason. Why?

vote: TheLastDays

I might switch to Believer if MRD's answer is satisfactory, but I ain't going to follow another "hidden claim" like GH's, not coming from MRD anyway, after I've seen the mess he made in ATPG Mafia 2.

[Believer]

After scummy conversations in private and even scummier dark-alley transactions I have decided upon the following.

Unvote;
Vote: TheLastDays

[Diamondeye]

I think the forum rules dictate that we both speak and interpret in English, my nordic friend. :)

Sup (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sup): To take or drink in swallows or gulps.
Chiefly dialect: to take food and especially liquid food into the mouth a little at a time.


Why vote me? (The same goes for MJD and GH)

The same reason I've voted you before; You're hiding in the skirts of others (Secura!).

[Believer]

Sup (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sup): To take or drink in swallows or gulps.
Chiefly dialect: to take food and especially liquid food into the mouth a little at a time.

The same reason I've voted you before; You're hiding in the skirts of others (Secura!).

Ah. That's about what it means in Swedish aswell, I thought you were responding at that.

I'm not hiding anything. I'm trying to come up with something but I can't, so I'm poking someone for activity for the benefit of the town. I'm posting at all hours and people are free to ask me about anything. I'm being completely open.

[Populus Romanus]

Believer, you had PM conversation with TheLastDays?

vote: TheLast Days

[TheLastDays]

After scummy conversations in private and even scummier dark-alley transactions I have decided upon the following.

Unvote;
Vote: TheLastDays

So is that an OMGUS for last vote on you or for Music Mafia? Or the joining of an argument by yet someone else in Romanic?

unvote, vote: Believer



How are you satisfied enough with Ibn's answer to unvote him?

The "don't you have anything to say?" implies that Ibn should have something to say, and you're right, he should have, if he's looking for scum. But then you simply unvote him before he answers.

Plus you're now voting classical_hero without giving a reason. Why?


It's not so much about being completely satisfied with an answer than about getting a bunch of answers. Sometimes unvoting someone can be as effective as voting for them, I got my answer after I unvoted him. You're right, he should have an answer. That he doesn't have an answer is also an answer.

Plus, I wanted to support Secura's argument by putting more pressure on classical_hero and since I was at work I wasn't sure when I'd be able to post again. Unfortunately he hasn't answered, although pressured.

Now I'd like to know why you seem so intent to critique my votes? IMO they make sense and I'm trying to do something at least.


Believer, you had PM conversation with TheLastDays?


No, he did not. That's another GH-like argument he's pulling off there.

[Romanic]

Now I'd like to know why you seem so intent to critique my votes? IMO they make sense and I'm trying to do something at least.
I've said why I critique your vote:

1) Your vote on Ibn is fine, but the unvote is strange, given his answer.
2) Your vote on CH was unexplained.

But if you were asking why I critique your votes then I'll reply that I am looking for scumbags. What kind of question is that anyway? :smug2:

As for why Believer moved his vote, I asked him to, to pressure you, and also see how he would react. I can't say that I liked his reaction, as he started on the defensive, stating that I might be a cultist trying to trick him, but he eventually did it. As far as I'm concerned, you two are satisfactory lynches for now.

And I'm still waiting for MRD's explanation *tap* *tap*

[Romanic]

Tally time perhaps?

4 Believer (Diamondeye, Major Robert Dump, GeneralHankerchief, TheLastDays)
3 TheLastDays (Romanic, Believer, Populus Romanus)
1 GeneralHankerchief (classical_hero)
1 classical_hero (Secura)
1 Major Robert Dump (Ibn Khaldun)
---
4 not voting (ArpeggiateTHIS, Renata, robbiecon, Seon)

[Populus Romanus]

So he was lying about the PMs? Then I shall put another nail in his coffin. unvote; vote: believer

[Major Robert Dump]

I don't have an explanation. We lynch people in cults, therefore, when I decide to lynch someone, I will say I think they are in a cult. There is nothing I have on Believer that I don't have on every other person in this game, as I can't scan, haven't had PMs with people and haven't been recruited (yet). Based on the timeframe and number of night, each cult should have had 3-4 people now if they started with just one, assume 1 or two have been lynched, that means town is greatly outnumbered right now.

so yeah, Believer is in a cult.

[Major Robert Dump]

Black September. Our main goal is to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and liberate the glorious nation of Serbia.



I had no suspects at all.

See, he even says so here

[Believer]

So he was lying about the PMs? Then I shall put another nail in his coffin. unvote; vote: believer

I haven't lied about anything. Refer to this by Romanic:


As for why Believer moved his vote, I asked him to, to pressure you, and also see how he would react. I can't say that I liked his reaction, as he started on the defensive, stating that I might be a cultist trying to trick him, but he eventually did it. As far as I'm concerned, you two are satisfactory lynches for now.

I never stated that I was in contact with TLD.


We lynch people in cults.

so yeah, Believer is in a cult.

Seeing the rules of the game, cultists should be the best townies around. If you suspect someone is a cultist you can be pretty clear that person is your best friend, since he will most likely be gunning for his own cult leader.
Why?
Once his leader is dead he will revert back to his original town alignment. Looking at this setup it's easy to see that a town victory is easier than a cult victory. So no, I don't think we should lynch people because they are cultists. Cult leaders, definately.
With all this said and your logic flawed; I am not a cultist and neither am I a cult leader.

[Seon]

I come here and I am not yet dead. This must mean Renata must be a cultist, for she would never allow me to die. Vote: Renny

[Askthepizzaguy]

Time up. Allow me to get settled, do a tally, and advance the round.

[Askthepizzaguy]

DAY FOUR




The assembled peasants grumbled at their shoddy treatment, and began accusing one another of being a heretic. The discussion was light. People seemed to be pointing fingers without much reason. But soon, a large group pointed their fingers at one man. And that man was a Believer.

A Believer in what? Voodoo? Faeries? Love at first sight? Or perhaps he was a Believer in some foul, dastardly, un-Pizzalike religion!


Askthepizzaguy: "Is this him? Is this the guy?"


Several folks looked at GeneralHankerchief, who nodded.


General Hanky: "General says Believer is guilty."


Believer: "I'm not a heretic, I'm not a heretic! I'm a true Believer!"


Askthepizzaguy: "It doesn't matter, Believer man! It doesn't matter! For you have crossed the line, and defied the word of Generalissimo Francisco Frankerchief!"


Major Robert Dump: "Actually, now they're playing Major Robert Dump says."


Askthepizzaguy: "Are they? Are they? Or are you just a puppet of the General, an underling, sent in his stead? Will you die in the line of duty, just like the Captain before you? And where did you all get these military ranks? You're just a bunch of silly wheat farmers! I'm out of it for a little while and everybody gets delusions of grandeur!"







Major Robert Dump: "................Dump says he's guilty! DUMP! DUMP! DUMP!!"



And so, the crowd grabbed Believer, and dumped him unceremoniously in the wheat thresher.


Askthepizzaguy: "Ok.... meeting adjourned. Back to bed, peasants!"




Alive:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Classical_hero
Diamondeye
GeneralHankerchief
Ibn-Khaldun
Major Robert Dump
Populus Romanus
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
TheLastDays


Dead:

issaikhaan- Far, far too pretty for the likes of you :snobby:

Captain Blackadder- Permanently cured of headaches :eyebrows:
Mr. Stuka- Boom, boom, boom.... even brighter than the moon, moon, moon. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/pissed.gif

Believer- Died going against the grain. :grin:


This round will end in 24 hours, please remember to send in orders. I'll grant an extension if necessary.





NIGHT FOUR

[Major Robert Dump]

I am a virgin

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am a virgin

I don't believe you. Clown britches are a one-way ticket to adult-oriented good times.

[Diamondeye]

The real reason I voted Believer was because he beat me at chess :stare:

[Major Robert Dump]

I don't believe you. Clown britches are a one-way ticket to adult-oriented good times.

Tis a line from one of the greatest songs of all time, by the legendary GWAR, so yes good times abound but one can still be a virgin. It also reminds me of a job horror story, but I shall put that in the proper thread

[Believer]

Lack of activity will kill this game.

[TheLastDays]

What kind of activity do you expect at night time?

[Believer]

What kind of activity do you expect at night time?

I expect everyone to vote during the day, that way we can lynch bad guys.

[Major Robert Dump]

It worked this last day

[Believer]

It worked this last day

You're just digging yourself a deeper hole. People know I'm innocent.

[Major Robert Dump]

I'm not digging anything and I never said you weren't innocent, and my entire case on you was based on a post you made in jest, which is about as solid as GeneralHankerchiefs case for people to lynch Blackadder "because he said so." As a townie who has been left out of all sort of collusion between you and your scheming "townie" homeboys, I don't know if you are innocent or guilty, but I do know this: I am a townie, and better you than me, and I'd be willing to bet that some of your homeboys are cultists.

[Believer]

I'd be willing to bet that some of your homeboys are cultists.

My homeboys consist of Romanic, which was the reason I voted TLD. I never talked to him earlier in this game. And Renata, which I haven't seen online for several days and therefore hasn't talked to. That's all, if you don't want to count ATPG in.

Question these two if you want to question my "homeboys", because these are all I have.