The Rise and Fall of Vespasian [Concluded]

[Captain Blackadder]

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The Year is 69 AD in the Christian Calender and the Republic of Rome has returned under the leadership of the Epicharis and Faenus Rufus. Rome has entered a glorious new age with the senate restored to its rightful place as the leaders of Rome.As the sun falls over the city and the moon rises the many Senators are happy. They are now powerful once more many of them have taken the chance to gain large amounts of money. Bribes are common and corruption is increasing yet there are still some men idealistic though they may be that continue to fight for the Republic and all that is good and decent. As time wears on they have some victories and some losses but overall they are beginning to win the fight. However not all is good in this land. There are rumours and plots arising in the provinces. There are men who feel that Rome is weak that it is unable to defend the Empire it has gained over the years. Whilst these threats from outside of Rome are scary there is more threats lurking from within. These men that wish harm upon the Senate and the People of Rome must be stopped for if they are not the very fabric of Rome may crumble and die. Without the Senate being strong the rule of Tyrants and Emperors shall return to Rome. The Senate was decimated naught but 5 years ago of its Nero loyalists the Senate could not survive a second culling. With the Senate dead Rome may very well fall. Men of great names like Vespasian are gaining in power as some think that perhaps that overthrow of the Emperors was a mistake. It is up to the Senate to defend Rome once more against the forces that wish for its destruction


This is the third in the series of Roman games. This is the first game that will not be based off an actual historical event and some of the characters in the game will be fictional as due to the deaths in the previous game there is not enough historical figures to make up the game. The rules will be the same as previous games. No screen shots and the such and such.

Sign Ups

17/17
JohnHughthom
Montmorency
Autolycus
Visorslash
EliteKingWarman
Bowwowwow
ATPG
PopulasRomanus
ClassicalHero
BestrfcPlayer
GibsonSg
DeathisYonder
MajorRobertDump
Soulblade
Ishmael
Khann
Robbiecon

Reserve
TheLastDays

[johnhughthom]

I'll play.

[Montmorency]

Is participation in either of the previous Roman games or any Mafia game at all a prerequisite?

[Captain Blackadder]

Not at all

[TheLastDays]

I think I'll give it a go

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thread moved as requested.

[Visor]

Yeah.

[autolycus]

In.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

IN.

[TheLastDays]

I'd like to change my status to reserve. If you don't get enough players I'll still play, if you get enough without me, I'll be a backup :yes:

[Captain Blackadder]

I am going to give this a few more days to get the numbers if not I will make a mini mafia based on Rome.

[Bow-wow-wow]

I'll play.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll play, even though I'm booked solid by commitments. Anything to help a fellow game host.

[Populus Romanus]

I'm being in.

[classical_hero]

All roads lead to Rome.

[bestrfcplayer]

I'll play.

[gibsonsg91921]

Super in.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Gibs! It's been a long time, man. Welcome back.

Welcome to bestrfc, should be your first game at the .org? CFC'ers know him well.

[Captain Blackadder]

Thank you everyone we will go one more day and then we shall begin with however many more people we get.

[Death is yonder]

It looks like you would want more players, so I'll try and set aside some time for this.

In please :bow:

[Major Robert Dump]

I ARE IN

[Askthepizzaguy]

How ya doing, Captain Blackadder? Think you can make a decent game out of these?

[SoulBlade]

/in

[Ishmael]

Well I'm new to Mafia, and I'd love to join, but before I do can somebody link me to one of the previous games? I'd just like to check out the rules, time per phase and suchlike before I join in.

EDIT: As I'm about to go to sleep, would I be able to reserve a place for the interim and confirm in the morning? Hope it's not too much trouble.

[Captain Blackadder]

How ya doing, Captain Blackadder? Think you can make a decent game out of these?

Most certainly my brother came over for the week so I haven't being on the comp that much to write pm's so it will start tomorrow evening my time.

[Ishmael]

Well I'm still a little hazy as to how this will play, but I'll probably pick it up as I go along. Count me in!

[seireikhaan]

:charge:

[robbiecon]

In, if there's room.

[Captain Blackadder]

Excellent that is the game full with role pm's to go out. Since it appears that we have some new players I will explain the rules and concept of the game.

The game is called mafia basically what happens is that you have is a group called the Mafia that know who each other are and they have the job to kill all the other players who are called the town. Now the game swaps between a day phase and a night phase. It begins with a day phase what you have to do is vote for whomever you think is part of the mafia. After 24 hours the votes are tabulated and then that person is killed and removed from the game. Then we move into night you may continue to post but there is no voting you send in orders based on your abilities and the mafia tells me who they want to kill. The game then swaps between these two phases until either the mafia are all dead or the mafia outnumbers the town.

[Ishmael]

I noticed in your previous games that there was both an 'Exile' and 'Execute' option when voting - are you still doing that? Also, will you tell us what the roles are or do we have to figure it out for ourselves?

Incidentally, thanks for being so helpful.

[Captain Blackadder]

No it is not in the game since in the first game it was never used so I took that as a sign that people didn't want it. However I could put it back in this game if people wanted it. I will tell you your roles as of now I am going through the list and are sending them out.

[Captain Blackadder]

All Pm's have being sent let the game begin. This round will finish at 12.00 hours GMT

[robbiecon]

Vote: PopulusRomanus, do you truly have the good of the people in your heart, or is it merely indulgences and luxury that you seek. The people might love you, but perhaps you are leading them on like sheep, in order for them to flock to you, waiting on you on bended knee. Will you strike them down if they no longer love you?

[Ishmael]

Having consulted the omniscient random number generator, and discarded its initial suggestion that I vote for myself, it told me to vote: Bow-wow-wow.

[Visor]

NSW, Australia (except during State of Origin)

Queensland supporter?

[Ishmael]

Queensland supporter?

No, just not willing to admit to being a NSW supporter :hangs head in shame:

[Visor]

I cannot tolerate this.

Vote: Ishmael


No, just not willing to admit to being a NSW supporter :hangs head in shame:

But you just kinda did, so....

(Queenslander here mate.)

[Ishmael]

But you just kinda did [admit], so....


Nonsense. I'm from, uh...Melbourne. Yes, Melbourne. I just haven't got around to updating my location in a while. That sounds convincing, right? :laugh4:

[Visor]

Yes it does, so much so that I will Unvote; vote: SoulBlade

Hello mate. Nice to see you over here. :yes:

[Major Robert Dump]

Being a Senator I feel that I should act accordingly, so if anyone would like some Tweets or emails of my Special Roman Package gimme holla!!

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Major Robert Dump.

Somebody who thinks their farts don't smell clearly has something to hide.

[Death is yonder]

Having consulted the omniscient random number generator, and discarded its initial suggestion that I vote for myself

Defiance! :stare: This is a man who would incite rebellion and grant power to the plebeians!

Off with his head!

Vote: Ishmael

Welcome to mafia ~:thumb:

[classical_hero]

vote:Robbiecon because I have to according to the RNG.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Eh, what the hell.

vote:Robbiecon

[Montmorency]

A warning to all who would bring Rome once more under the Imperial yoke: glimpse through your hubris a Neroic downfall. I believe that Titus Flavius Vespasianus is one of those to whom I refer. I believe furthermore that he is a good man; but he will never be a good emperor - no one can. If Flavius Vespasianus truly loves Rome, he will realize that only throuugh its Senate can it survive in this age. No autocratic gesture will ever match the glory of faithful service to the SPQR.

Vote: Abstain

Great men of Rome, this is not the time to be at each others' throats. We must root out the traitors in our midst, to be sure, but beyond that we must maintain stability in the Republic. These wild accusations being levied at men of great stature are backed only by augury and divination; this is not how the gods act, as you well know. Hope that they do not visit blight and destruction on our city over your presumption!

[Populus Romanus]

As we all know, pizza was the food of the stinky Italian plebeians. It was they who first enabled the overthrow of the Republic, now they must die. vote: Askthepizzaguy

[SoulBlade]

Vote: ELITEOFKWARMAN88GINGERBREADMAN for voting for Robbiecon 2nd. Do you know anything something we don't, good sir?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Vote: ELITEOFKWARMAN88GINGERBREADMAN for voting for Robbiecon 2nd. Do you know anything something we don't, good sir?

How the Hell would I know? :laugh4:

[SoulBlade]

I don't know, maybe by being a scum or something? It's very suspicious to vote 2nd directly after a post with the same vote, don't you think?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Gingerbreadman888SwissCastlePikewarmanGibberish15


For hogging all the gingerbread cookies.

[Major Robert Dump]

Vote: Death is Yonder
For being a classist. Someone needs to get his silk panties out of a wad and have the silver spoon lynched from his mouth. Inciting between the upper and lower class is not the way forward, it is the status quo and exactly what the scummies want.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh there you go Dump bringing class into it again.

[Visor]

Damn white trash kids...

[Major Robert Dump]

I didn't bring class into it, Mr. I-HATE-TEH-PLEBIUMS did. I am trying to look out for the common man. I want endless Beanie Weanies and Corndogs for everyone!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I just want to point out how awesome I am.


That is all.

[Visor]

1 Bow-wow-wow (Ishmael)
1 Populus Romanus (Robbiecon)
1 SoulBlade (Visorslash)
1 Major Robert Dump (johnhughthom)
1 Ishmael (Death is Yonder)
2 Robbiecon (Classical_Hero, Warman)
1 Askthepizzaguy (Populus Romanus)
2 Warman (SoulBlade, Askthepizzaguy)
1 Death is Yonder (Major Robert Dump)

1 Abstain (Montmorency)

Danke Ishmael.

[Ishmael]

Also, don't forget to add Robbiecon's vote for Populus Romanus. It probably won't make any difference, but I'm a bit of a perfectionist OCD.

[Visor]

Thanks, changed.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Major Robert Dump.

No communists here, no sirree.

[Visor]

1 Bow-wow-wow (Ishmael)
1 Populus Romanus (Robbiecon)
1 SoulBlade (Visorslash)
2 Major Robert Dump (johnhughthom, Major Robert Dump)
1 Ishmael (Death is Yonder)
2 Robbiecon (Classical_Hero, Warman)
1 Askthepizzaguy (Populus Romanus)
2 Warman (SoulBlade, Askthepizzaguy)
1 Death is Yonder (Major Robert Dump)

1 Abstain (Montmorency)

It'd be nice if you guys could keep a tally in every post...

[SoulBlade]

Visor, you always vote for me. :sadface:

Keeping a tally is the mod's role.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I like how you went back in time and joined the .org two years ago just to play in this game, SoulBlade.

[Visor]

You're scum in the DF game over at TWC though. :P


Keeping a tally is the mod's role.

Sometimes. I like player tallies in games of mine, cause I'm lazy. :P

[Ishmael]

To save our poor host the trouble of calling a tiebreaker, I'm going to unvote, vote: EliteofWarman.... Your reasoning for bandwagoning robbiecon was a little flimsy, MRD has been contributing more so far, and robbiecon made a passable go at roleplaying :yes:. Nothing personal.

EDIT: Here you go Visorslash

1 Populus Romanus (Robbiecon)
1 SoulBlade (Visorslash)
2 Major Robert Dump (johnhughthom, Major Robert Dump)
1 Ishmael (Death is Yonder)
2 Robbiecon (Classical_Hero, Warman)
1 Askthepizzaguy (Populus Romanus)
3 Warman (SoulBlade, Askthepizzaguy, Ishmael)
1 Death is Yonder (Major Robert Dump)

1 Abstain (Montmorency)

[johnhughthom]

Meesa like ties. unvote, vote: robbie



1 Populus Romanus (Robbiecon)
1 SoulBlade (Visorslash)
1 Major Robert Dump (khaan)
1 Ishmael (Death is Yonder)
3 Robbiecon (Classical_Hero, Warman, jht)
1 Askthepizzaguy (Populus Romanus)
3 Warman (SoulBlade, Askthepizzaguy, Ishmael)
1 Death is Yonder (Major Robert Dump)

1 Abstain (Montmorency)

[SoulBlade]

I like how you went back in time and joined the .org two years ago just to play in this game, SoulBlade.
It's one of my many super powers.

You're scum in the DF game over at TWC though. :P
You'll be dead meat on the next day.



Sometimes. I like player tallies in games of mine, cause I'm lazy. :P
Contradiction! You must be one of them! IGMEOY.

[Captain Blackadder]

Round is over JHT vote change missed by 4 minutes so it is not counted. EliteKingWarman has being lynched

1 Populus Romanus (Robbiecon)
1 SoulBlade (Visorslash)
2 Major Robert Dump (johnhughthom, issaikhann)
1 Ishmael (Death is Yonder)
2 Robbiecon (Classical_Hero, Warman)
1 Askthepizzaguy (Populus Romanus)
3 Warman (SoulBlade, Askthepizzaguy, Ishmael)
1 Death is Yonder (Major Robert Dump)

1 Abstain (Montmorency)


As the Senate debates and rages on and on many Senators are implicated in this new threat to the republic. Some Senators appear to be using this chance to settle old scores. These men will stop at nothing to ruin another Senators dignitas. As is common with these things the first man to go is the one that has little power. It is the kind of man who was quiet and no one knew what he was up to. Unlike many of the other Senators this man was no great war leader, he was no great general nor a great orator who could capture his audience and make them believe as he wished. Instead as the senators turn on him Sextus Julius Frontinus (KingWarman) just sits there continuing to read his books and write down notes. Sextus Julius Frontinus is going to be known throughout the ages. As the Lictors drag him out of the Senate to take him up to the Saxum Tarpeium to through him off it down 25 metres to the sharp rocks there are few that moan his passing. Once the scream of the man is heard the senators file out of the building. As the last one leaves he bends down to pick up whatever Sextus was writing he looks down at it sees the title page which reads De Aqueductibus Urbis Romae. The man looks at it for but a second before throwing onto one of the fires lighting the Senate House with this final act there will be no memory of Sextus Julius Frontinus and what he did.

KingWarman Sextus Julius Frontinus is dead

Begin Night One

[Major Robert Dump]

I mourned him.

[SoulBlade]

Wait, you don't reveal the role of the lynched?

[johnhughthom]

Google the character, doesn't seem like a likely mafia role.

[classical_hero]

Unless we are all senators and diplomats and the like, then we won't know.

[Montmorency]

How long does this night phase last?

[Captain Blackadder]

24 hours so it finished up in around 4 hours. You will know when you have lynched a scum.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

No Cashews and Milk for all of you!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

No Cashews and Milk for all of you!!

Warman be frontin', yo.


KingWarman Sextus Julius Frontinus

You be trippin on mad power with your crown. Rome needs no more kings. Where's your crown, king nothing?

[johnhughthom]

You really need to work on your reward scheme Warman, offer pistachios and beer and maybe we can start talking.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Warman be frontin', yo.



You be trippin on mad power with your crown. Rome needs no more kings. Where's your crown, king nothing?


I'm the King of Swissland and the Emperor of the Black Hawk Clan EMpire. :laugh4:


You really need to work on your reward scheme Warman, offer pistachios and beer and maybe we can start talking.


Sure, why the hell not.

[johnhughthom]

Come on Capt B! I want to read about Pizza's brutal decapitation now! NOW!!!!





Please.

[classical_hero]

I doubt he could have posted when you did, since that would be 3am his time.

[Captain Blackadder]

Round Over prepare for write up forgive the lateness I had a killer headache last night so writing the write up slipped from my schedule.

[Captain Blackadder]

As night fell over Rome for the first time little did the senators of Rome know that soon some of them would no longer be amongst the living. The first man to go would be a man by the name of Decimus Claudius Ingenuus (Death is Yonder) whilst history will not remember his name as he had not done anything that countless others had not done before him. He was the kind of man that was well respected in his age but whose memories would die with the last man who knew him. He never would have being a Caesar the most he could have hoped for was to be a Quintas Cicero a man who is part of the story but not the driver of it. He was a man of great kindness and humality who would never forget a friend. All of these kind traits would count for nothing when the assassins blade came for him. As he sleeps his restful sleep the foul assassin's arrive talking about their plans. Two of the men look to the third for orders. One of the men seems to be restless annoyed with the talking that decided this however he nods respectfully to the third man who says with but a look all they need to know. Decimus is to die. They move into his house killing silently the slaves and servants that look after this senator. They finally reach the room of Decimus move in and kill him. This is no noble death it Decimus a senator and representative of Rome is killed like a swine with his throat cut he dies within seconds and the assassins flee.

Decimus Claudius Ingenuus (Death is Yonder) is dead


The death is yet to be finished as there is another man that will die tonight this time we move to the house of Petronius (Robbiecon) this is a different kind of murder. Petronius is the great survivor he lived through the entire last change of power with his life intact. He has continued to write great witty remarks. Unlike Decimus Petronius would be remembered for an age as his greatest work will survive the passages of time. As he sits down at his desk he writes one final poem which reads as follows.

He that would be an orator, must strive
To follow out the discipline of old,
And heed the laws of stern frugality;
Not his to haunt the Court with fawning brow,
Nor sit a flatterer at great folks' boards;
Not his with boon companions o'er the wine
To overcloud his brain, nor at the play
To sit and clap, agape at actors' tricks.
But whether to Tritonia's famous halls
The Muses lead his steps, or to those walls
That Spartan exiles rear'd or where
The Sirens' song thrill'd the enraptured air
Of all his tasks let Poesy be first,
And Homer's verse the fount to quench his thirst.
Soon will be master deep Socratic lore,
And wield the arms Demosthenes erst bore.
Then to new modes must he in turn be led,
And Grecian wit to Roman accents wed.
Nor in the forum only will he find
Meet occupation for his busy mind;
On books he'll feast, the poet's words of fire,
Heroic tales of War and Tully's patriot ire,
Such be thy studies; then, whate'er the theme,
Pour forth thine eloquence in copious stream."

Petronius smiles at this and goes to bed. With this the assassin moves in once more to kill. He slinks into the room of Petronius and pulls out a gladius. He moves and makes two cuts one to the head of Petronius and the other to his hands that wrote such wonderful words. The killer hacks away cutting off these hands his picks them up the bloody stumps that they are and takes them with him. He moves to the Senate House and writes on the front door here lies the hands of a lie and a fraud. With these his sticks the hands to the door with them and departs.

Petronius (Robbiecon) is dead.

This round will finish at 12.00 hours GMT

17/17
JohnHughthom
Montmorency
Autolycus
Visorslash
EliteKingWarman
Bowwowwow
ATPG
PopulasRomanus
ClassicalHero
BestrfcPlayer
GibsonSg
DeathisYonder
MajorRobertDump
Soulblade
Ishmael
Khann
Robbiecon

[Askthepizzaguy]

Death is yonder, as much as I love your name, maybe you should change it to "Life is yonder"

[Populus Romanus]

My name is adequate, methinks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Something followed by Khaan

People have died, and I blame you!

[Ishmael]

Vote: Autolycus for lurking, as I don't have enough evidence for any legitimate suspicion yet. I'd be happy to remove the vote if/when you show up.

[Visor]

Vote: BestrfcPlayer

Show up.

[Populus Romanus]

Vote: Montmorency show yourself.

[Visor]

Following the trend eh?

Montmorency showed up last phase with a vote to abstain.

Why didn't you go for Gibson, who hasn't even showed up? Instead of someone who has voted...

[Visor]

Bow-wow-wow didn't show up either...

Other than those two, the lurkers are all being voted for I think. Lets see what they have to say and who they vote for. Should be interesting.

[autolycus]

Hey guys. I was moving from New York to Michigan during all of the last day phase. I'll vote:Populus Romanus, because I find his vote on the abstainer a little bit off.

[SoulBlade]

vote: GibsonSg
I haven't seen you for a while, show yourself!

[Major Robert Dump]

Plebains unite.

[SoulBlade]

My lynch candidate GibsonSg still didn't appear! I say we hang him today!

[johnhughthom]

Vote: GibsonSg

Hellooooooooo

[classical_hero]

My lynch candidate GibsonSg still didn't appear! I say we hang him today!Yeah, it was only two hours. Surely he has time to come here at your command. Considering your impatience, I am going to vote for you. vote:SoulBlade

[SoulBlade]

No problem, scums are known for their impatience. Agree fellow townies? You're in my FoS.

[Montmorency]

Vote: Montmorency show yourself.

Very well, ____.

I am merely somewhat subdued, having received news of the assassination of Petronius Arbiter last night.

I enjoyed his poetry. His death is indeed a loss.

I find it notable that his hands were cut from his body post mortem. The same hands that mere hours earlier had pointed at you in accusation. I think it is clear who bears the responsibility for this murder.

Vote: Populus Romanus

[gibsonsg91921]

oh lord I completely forgot about this I will need a sec to catch up haha.

[Ishmael]

For the peoples' convenience, here's a tally:

2 x Gibonsg (Soulblade, johnhughtom)
2 x Populus Romanus (Mortmorency, Autolycus)
2 x SoulBlade (classical_hero, Ishmael)
1 x Mortmorency (Populus Romanus)
1 x Issaikhaan (ATPG)
1 x Bestrfcplayer (Visorslash)


NB: Autolycus, I'll probably move my vote off you, but I just need some time to work out who to.

[Ishmael]

No problem, scums are known for their impatience. Agree fellow townies? You're in my FoS.

Incidentally SoulBlade, this probably isn't the greatest defence, as classical_hero was accusing you of impatience.

[Ishmael]

Okay, this will be my last consecutive post, I promise!

unvote, vote: SoulBlade

For a few reasons:

a) He seems very eager to accuse people of scumminess, often based on a flimsy premise:


My lynch candidate GibsonSg still didn't appear! I say we hang him today!

This was a mere 2 hours after his initial vote


I don't know, maybe by being a scum or something? It's very suspicious to vote 2nd directly after a post with the same vote, don't you think?

Whilst this can be a sign of scum (in association with other clues), the way SoulBlade aggressively and assertively stated it, with no other supporting evidence, seems a tad suspicious.


Contradiction! You must be one of them! IGMEOY.

I realise this last one was intended to be humorous, but with the other comments it gives the impression of trying a little too hard.

b) He was implicitly opposed to keeping a tally, which provides a voting record for the town to use later


Keeping a tally is the mod's role.

c) His voting this round is somewhat suspicious. Specifically, he was fourth on the 'Lynch the Lurkers' bandwagon, and whilst I said earlier this is insufficient evidence by itself, in association with the above it provides a little more support. And again, his aggressive tone when he ordered Gibonsg to "Show yourself!" seems to be trying too hard.

There you have it, possibly my largest ever post on the .Org and my first usage of the multiquote tool. I will freely admit that this case is all circumstantial, but it raises the odds of Soulblade being Mafia to much higher than that of other members, and to me that is sufficient reason to lynch him.

EDIT: I've edited my earlier tally to avoid making another post.

[Major Robert Dump]

vote: SoulBlade

[Askthepizzaguy]

oh lord I completely forgot about this I will need a sec to catch up haha.

unvote, vote: gibsonsg91921

Oh lord, I completely forgot to vote for gibsonsg91921

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy. Because you've avoided our romantic encounter for too long. Something always gets in the way. I think you're hiding a secret affair. :stare:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Askthepizzaguy. Because you've avoided our romantic encounter for too long. Something always gets in the way. I think you're hiding a secret affair. :stare:

It's because you never want to cuddle or talk about my day.

I'm not just a piece of meat, you know. I'm also different kinds of meat, vegetables, cheese, tomato sauce, spices, and baked crust.

[Visor]

Unvote

...

[Major Robert Dump]

I was honestly expecting some more eloquent speeches from free-balling dudes wearing man dresses

[Visor]

3 x Gibonsg (Soulblade, johnhughtom, ATPG)
3 x Populus Romanus (Mortmorency, Autolycus, Visorslash)
3 x SoulBlade (classical_hero, Ishmael, MRD)
1 x Mortmorency (Populus Romanus)
1 x Issaikhaan (ATPG)

Vote: Populus Romanus

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have two votes? Kewl.

unvote: issaikhaan
vote: gibsonsg91921
vote: gibsonsg91921

[seireikhaan]

It's because you never want to cuddle or talk about my day. I'm not just a piece of meat, you know. I'm also different kinds of meat, vegetables, cheese, tomato sauce, spices, and baked crust. So you've cheating on me with sausage? I thought you were a one meat man! :cry:

[Major Robert Dump]

MY NAME IS ATPG, NICE TO MEAT YOU

[Askthepizzaguy]

So you've cheating on me with sausage? I thought you were a one meat man! :cry:

If any one meat could satisfy me, I wouldn't have six different kinds at once. I need different shapes, sizes, flavors. Variety is the spice of life, and I demand spicy meat.

[SoulBlade]

Okay, this will be my last consecutive post, I promise!

unvote, vote: SoulBlade

For a few reasons:

a) He seems very eager to accuse people of scumminess, often based on a flimsy premise:

Of course, this is point of the game! The more eager, the more I want to win the game!

This was a mere 2 hours after his initial vote



Whilst this can be a sign of scum (in association with other clues), the way SoulBlade aggressively and assertively stated it, with no other supporting evidence, seems a tad suspicious.

If I don't have any evidence, then I will force my lynch candidate to post so he can defend himself. The way he defends will determine his nature. Of course the defending may take a lot of posts.

I realise this last one was intended to be humorous, but with the other comments it gives the impression of trying a little too hard.

Too hard? My lynch candidate was still absent, or maybe lurking? I can't know! So I call him again.

b) He was implicitly opposed to keeping a tally, which provides a voting record for the town to use later

I didn't "oppose", just pointed out that the mod has a role and obligation to keep track of the votes. Of course, if you volunteer, it will just help our cause to hunt down scums.

c) His voting this round is somewhat suspicious. Specifically, he was fourth on the 'Lynch the Lurkers' bandwagon, and whilst I said earlier this is insufficient evidence by itself, in association with the above it provides a little more support. And again, his aggressive tone when he ordered Gibonsg to "Show yourself!" seems to be trying too hard.

How my voting is suspicious? My first vote was against the first bandwagon on Day 1 when Warman immediately voted second for the same guy. On Day 2, I was looking out for lurker, not on the "lurker bandwagon" - it was my decision. The "Show yourself" was a second call, which didn't help, unfortunately.

There you have it, possibly my largest ever post on the .Org and my first usage of the multiquote tool. I will freely admit that this case is all circumstantial, but it raises the odds of Soulblade being Mafia to much higher than that of other members, and to me that is sufficient reason to lynch him.

You're making a mistake, and you will regret it. Or it will just help your scummy cause?

EDIT: I've edited my earlier tally to avoid making another post.
My arguments in purple, 'cause it's my favourite colour.

Edit: If I was a scum, I'd really try to blend in, but the way I behaved I wanted to force people to answer me so I can see how they will react. So by acting aggressively, I indirectly caught your attention. Did I catch a fellow scummy of yours?

[Captain Blackadder]

Round is over prepare for write up

[Captain Blackadder]

Montermancy Populas Romanus
Populas Romanus Autolycus, Montmorancy, Visorslash
GibsonSg Soulblade, Johnhughthom, ATPG
Soulblade ClassicalHero, Ishmael, MRD
ATPG Khann

As the day ends in Rome once more there appears to be a three way tie. The Consul of the day looks at this and stands and proclaims the following.
As it has being decided that we cannot make a decision my fellow Romans have have asked the the Pontifex Maximus comes here to tell us what signs the gods have given us this day. As the man steps forward making various mutterings about the luck of the gods.Over time the Pontifex falls into a trance as the senators await his decision talking about various things suddenly the Pontifex screams to the heavens that the gods of justice have made their decision. The Pontifex stands moving to point to who it is that will die this day. As the various Senators cringe under the hand of the Pontifex one stares him down and it is this man that the Pontifex points to. The man is Soulblade or Gaius Licinius Mucianus the governor of Syria. This man who had much reason to hate Vespasian would be the one to die.For it was Vespasian who took his command in Syria and prevented him from having a triumph. As Gaius is dragged out he screams and curses Vespasian to the roof tops saying things that could not be said in polite company

Gaius Licinius Mucianus (Soulblade) is dead

13/17
JohnHughthom
Montmorency
Autolycus
Visorslash
EliteKingWarman
Bowwowwow
ATPG
PopulasRomanus
ClassicalHero
BestrfcPlayer
GibsonSg
DeathisYonder
MajorRobertDump
Soulblade
Ishmael
Khann
Robbiecon

Begin Night Two

[SoulBlade]

/Facepalm. Another game I've got lynched. Anyway, now it's up to you guys to find the traitors.

[Captain Blackadder]

Also if CrfPlayer does not turn up during the next day phase he will be wogged/replaced.

[Major Robert Dump]

I will replace him, and the two of us shall rule Rome.

[Ishmael]

/Facepalm. Another game I've got lynched. Anyway, now it's up to you guys to find the traitors.

Sorry mate, nothing personal. Incidentally Captain Blackadder, when you say we'll know the person lynched was mafia, how obvious do you mean it will be? Will you outright state it, or will it be more subtle?

[Captain Blackadder]

Sorry mate, nothing personal. Incidentally Captain Blackadder, when you say we'll know the person lynched was mafia, how obvious do you mean it will be? Will you outright state it, or will it be more subtle?

It won't say next to them that they are mafia but even a glance at the write up should tell you if they are scum.

[Major Robert Dump]

Well based on the write ups thus far everyone who has been lynched/murdered has obviously been scum, so I predict a town win in one more day.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll go with the odds and predict doom for the town.

[Major Robert Dump]

Please don't be such a party pooper. I am an optimist, and it is clear that with a united plebian front we can squelch this internal threat.

[Captain Blackadder]

As night falls over Rome once again we enter the house of Publius Egnatius Celer (BestcrfPlayer) a lone figure enters the room and finds Celer seemingly in a coma the man gives a gallic shrug before killing Celer in a way that would cause unimaginable pain slowly bleeding out over the next several days as no man seem to come to the house of Celer nore has Celer left it in some time.

Publius Egnatius Celer (BestcrfPlayer) is dead

We now move to another man's house but this house has a much better quality of person living in it Helvidius Priscus (ATPG) is his name and republicanism is his game. This is the man that fought constantly for the republic to be returned a man for who virtue was not some word to be thrown about in elections but was a way of life. The figures move into his house and unlike the other time Priscus is still awake he looks into the eyes of the men that now surround him. The first man begins and commands that Helvidius Priscus not to go into the senate, he replied, "It is in your power not to allow me to be a member of the senate, but so long as I am, I must go in." "Well, go in then," says the man, "but say nothing." "Do not ask my opinion, and I will be silent." "But I must ask your opinion." "And I must say what I think right." "But if you do, I shall put you to death." "When then did I tell you that I am immortal? You will do your part, and I will do mine: it is your part to kill; it is mine to die, but not in fear: yours to banish me; mine to depart without sorrow. I am a man who know the rightness of my beliefs my death shall not stop them nor shall the threat of it make me cower in my bed. Kill me and be done with it. The assassins nod to each other and with the Priscus is killed

Helvidius Priscus (ATPG) is dead

11/17
JohnHughthom
Montmorency
Autolycus
Visorslash
EliteKingWarman
Bowwowwow
ATPG
PopulasRomanus
ClassicalHero
BestrfcPlayer
GibsonSg
DeathisYonder
MajorRobertDump
Soulblade
Ishmael
Khann
Robbiecon

[johnhughthom]

Vote: GibsonSg

So what's happening with that "catch up" of yours?

[Major Robert Dump]

Vote: GibsonSg


ATPG may have been killed by someone he knew or was in cahoots with.

[Populus Romanus]

I am going to be gone for the next week with no access to a computer

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG may have been killed by someone he knew or was in cahoots with.

Bah. *waves dead hand dismissively*

[Montmorency]

ATPG may have been killed by someone he knew or was in cahoots with.

We all knew Helvidius, Prescus, senator. We were all (or should have all been) in cahoots with him. Most of us here are republicans, as was our departed friend. It is clear that certain traitorous elements in our midst are thinning our ranks, removing the most powerful or influential of us. No small-time upstart is behind these murders. No, it must be a man who in turn has great power and influence that is responsible. A man who seeks the imperial throne. I have my suspicion: Vespasian.

OOC: So which one of you is Vespasian?

...

For now, I can only recommend that each Senator invest in a larger personal guard for the coming nights.

[classical_hero]

Why would anyone want to kill a lurker? That is not a good strategy by the mafia.

[classical_hero]

I am going to be gone for the next week with no access to a computerThat is normally a scum tell, so I will vote:Populus Romanus

[autolycus]

vote:visorslash His vote to tie I find suspicious.

[Montmorency]

Is it me or is this game not seeing a lot of activity?

[Visor]

Why would anyone want to kill a lurker? That is not a good strategy by the mafia.

There are two night kills, so why are you so sure that the lurker kill is by the mafia?

Vote: Classical Hero

[Ishmael]

There are two night kills, so why are you so sure that the lurker kill is by the mafia?

Vote: Classical Hero

Wait, what do you mean by this? I was under the assumption that there were 2 mafiosi who got 2 kills per night, regardless of numbers - that seems to be the most common rules in use at the Org, from what I gather. Also, Captain Blackadder said that if BestrfcPlayer didn't show up during the next day phase he would be WoGed, so his death can't have been because of that. To me, that suggests classical_hero is correct, and one of the mafiosi is inexperienced. Or pretending to be. Or maybe they want us to think that... WIFOM, my head hurts. Anybody, the only inexperienced player that fits the bill is Mortmorency, so for the interim I'll:

vote: Montmorency

[Visor]

Wait, what do you mean by this? I was under the assumption that there were 2 mafiosi who got 2 kills per night, regardless of numbers

I don't think so. Typically mafia get one kill for the team, in ATPG's game, 7 mafia (I think) and only two night kills. SO I'd say for a small game, one kill would be suffiicient, especially with a town vig or SK.

Or someone who wants to kill a lurker personally.

1 kill, 3 members seems the logical choice.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Khaan must die.

[Visor]

I think, from my memory of the previous games, the mafia had one kill per the entire team. In a small game with 17 players, three mafia is balanced I think, and with one nightkill at that. I think two members with two kills is slighlty unbalanced. A serial killer or protown vigilante along with 3 scums in a 17 player game seems okay to me. Maybe there are some other power roles.

[Ishmael]

Fair enough, I was mostly going off Mafia X, which is the only game I've really looked at here. My/Classical_hero's point about the inexperience of one of the killers still stands, though.

[Visor]

That's a one of a kind game.

I suppose you may have a point...

Unvote; Vote: Montmorency

[Ishmael]

Incidentally folks, have a tally:

2 x GibonSg (johnhughtom, MRD)
2 x Montmorency (Ishmael, Visorslash)
1 x Populus Romanus (classical_hero)
1 x Visorslash (autolycus)

[Visor]

Thanks. You're doing really well for a first game in my opinion.

[Ishmael]

Thanks. You're doing really well for a first game in my opinion.

Thankyou. To be honest, I'm surprised I wasn't lynched as scum in the first day - my enthusiasm from this being my first mafia game is making me post way more than normal, which from what I gather can sometimes appear suspicious :beam:. As to the tallies, my brain craves order and statistics, so seeing as I'd be keeping them anyway I figure I may as well post them. I apologise in advance if my blindness to the identities of the mafiosi is the death of the town :laugh4:.

[Visor]

I end up having an abnormal post count lol. It's so bad. :P

[Montmorency]

Thanks. You're doing really well for a first game in my opinion.


Anybody, the only inexperienced player that fits the bill is Mortmorency, so for the interim I'll:

vote: Montmorency

:inquisitive:

As RPing in this one seems to be, ah...

We all have personal goals, but if there are 3 Mafia/special, the rest must be pro-Republic/town. Which, of course, I claim to be. Yesterday's lynch writeup was a bit unlike the 4 other deaths. Is that significant?

As my defense, I'll say that, for one, I'm not that inexperienced. I've read through 3 or 4 games here. :clown:

Remember that tomorrow (Day 4) there will be only 8, maybe 9, left. I don't suppose anyone here is a "legit best Mafia player, for realsies", but why risk a Mafia X repeat with frivolous lynches? Of course, there are no good candidates as of now and probably won't be until the endgame, so I'm probably as valid a choice as any.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I haven't said it for nearly 12 hours, so here it is.

Khaan must die.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Populus Romanus

The wheel of fate, she shall spin.


I haven't said it for nearly 12 hours, so here it is.

Khaan must die.
I wuv you too, snoogums.

[Montmorency]

Ugh. Since 90% of the posts come during the AM hours, I will have to get up pretty early for this one. As one of the four non-voters, I should be courted by those who seek victory. :wink:

[Major Robert Dump]

Says the guy who is willing to sell the Romans out to Big Cattle and Big Chariott cronies....
Unvote; vote: Montmorency

[Montmorency]

It's worse than that: I want to sell your land to the barbarians, thereby disenfranchising you freemen while cementing my own position with hordes of loyal warriors! :D

If excitement and death must be inextricably linked, so be it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I like Montmorency. I give him my dead thumbs up of approval. Still want him to vote though.

[Montmorency]

Fine, but before I vote I should do one of those worthless analyses.

Day 1:

Ishmael > Bow-wow-wow
Robbiecon > Romanus
Visor > Ishmael
Visor (unvote) > Soul
John > Dump
DiY > Ishmael
ClassicalHero > robbiecon
Warman > robbiecon
Montmorency > Abstain
Romanus > Pizza
Soul > Warman
Pizza > Warman
Dump > DiY
Khaan > Dump
Ishmael (unvote) > Warman
John (unvote) > robbiecon


Many ties throughout the day. John would have made it a tie between Warman and robbiecon, but he was 4 minutes late.

Warman was lynched, writeup seems to indicate town.

Final tally:

1 Populus Romanus (Robbiecon)
1 SoulBlade (Visorslash)
2 Major Robert Dump (johnhughthom, issaikhann)
1 Ishmael (Death is Yonder)
2 Robbiecon (Classical_Hero, Warman)
1 Askthepizzaguy (Populus Romanus)
3 Warman (SoulBlade, Askthepizzaguy, Ishmael)
1 Death is Yonder (Major Robert Dump)

1 Abstain (Montmorency)

I have no idea what to take from this, besides that Warman is innocent. Also, it's the 1st day.



Night 1:


DiY and robbiecon die. Writeups suggest innocence. DiY's similar to Warman's. Robbiecon was a runnerup for the lynch on Day 1. Death is Yonder had voted Dump.

Day 2:


Pizza > Khan
Ishmael > Autolycus
Visor > Bestrfcplayer
Romanus > Montmorency
Autolycus > Romanus
Soul > Gibson
John > Gibson
Classicalhero > Soul
Montmorency > Romanus
Ishmael (unvote) > Soul
Dump > Soul
Pizza (unvote) > Gibson
Khaan > Pizza
Visor (unvote) > Romanus


For much of the day, there was a triple tie between Populus, Gibson, and Soulblade. Autolycus and Montmorency are scum buddies? Autolycus and Visor are scum buddies? :/

Anyway, the final tally was:

1 Montermancy (Populus Romanus)
3 Populus Romanus (Autolycus, Montmorancy, Visorslash)
3 GibsonSg (Soulblade, Johnhughthom, ATPG)
3 Soulblade (ClassicalHero, Ishmael, MRD)
1 ATPG (Khann)

The GM randomly (?) killed Soulblade, who went out violently. I don't know what it means, but it is different.



Night 2:


Bestcrfplayer and ATPG die. The former seems to be a de facto WOG? Maybe not? ATPG's death similar to Robbiecon's. Both probably innocent. ATPG was voted by Khaan. ATPG voted Gibson. Crf did nothing ever. No conclusion.


Day 3 (so far):


John > Gibson
Dump > Gibson
Classicalhero > Romanus
Autolycus > Visor
Visor > Classicalhero
Ishmael > Montmorency
Visor (unvote) > Montmorency
Dump (unvote) > Montmorency
Khaan > Romanus

So we have this late wagon on Montmorency. Eh.



I have no idea, I'm not seeing anything here. Maybe looking at it player-by-player will provide a more useful perspective.

Montmorency: Innocent. Old. Powerful. Pro-republic. That is all speculation, of course. Abstained on Day 1. OMGUS Romanus (tie for lynch) on Day 2. No vote on Day 3 yet.

ATPG: Voted Warman (lynched) Day 1. Voted by Romanus Day 1. Voted Gibson (tie for lynch) Day 2. Voted by Khaan Day 2. Nightkill Night 2. Innocent, I say.

Robbiecon: Voted Romanus Day 1. Voted by Classicalhero and Warman (lynched) Day 1. Nightkill Night 1. Innocent, I say.

BestcrfPlayer: No votes. Voted temporarily by Visor on Day 2. Nightkill Night 2. Innocent, I say.

DeathisYonder: Voted Ishmael Day 1. Voted by Dump Day 1. Nightkill Night 1. Innocent, I say.

Warman: Voted robbiecon Day 1. Lynched Day 1. Innocent, I say.

Soulblade: Voted Warman (lynched) Day 1. Voted by Visor Day 1. Voted gibson (tied for lynch) Day 2. Voted by Ishmael, Dump, and Classicalhero Day 2. Lynched Day 2. I dunno.

I think Romanus' name shows up there a lot, and he's the one who first brought attention to me. Vote: PopulusRomanus.

A lot of connections between these dead guys, the people they voted, and the people who voted them. Romanus, Ishmael, Visor, Dump, and Classicalhero are the only ones to come out of that mess of names alive. Data is insufficient, no conclusion.

PopulusRomanus: Voted Pizza (killed) Day 1. Voted by robbiecon (killed) Day 1. Frame? Voted Montmorency Day 2. Was voted to tie by autolycus, montmorency, and visorslash Day 2. Apparently gone for a while, so he cannot defend himself.

Classicalhero: Voted robbiecon (killed) Day 1. Voted Soulblade (lynched) Day 2. Is voting Romanus Day 3. Is being voted by Visor Day 3.

Ishmael: Voted Warman (lynched) Day 1. Voted by Death is Yonder (killed) Day 1. Voted Soulblade (lynched) Day 2.Is voting Montmorency Day 3. Has a strategy? Makes much of his own inexperience. Very earnest and eager. When Montmorency dies, all who have been associated with him will have died.

Gibson: No votes. 1 or 2 posts. Voted by Johnhughtom, Pizza (killed), and Soulblade (lynched). Tied for lynch. Is being voted by Johnhughtom on Day 3. Dump was voting him too, but recently switched his vote to Montmorency.

Visorslash: Voted Soulblade (later lynched) Day 1. Voted Romanus (tied for lynch) Day 2. . Is voting Montmorency Day 3, after switching from Classicalhero. Is being voted by Autolycus Day 3

Bowwowwow: No posts. No votes. Not voted by anyone. Well, the very first vote of Day 1 was on him, by Ishmael, but this was soon removed.

Isaikhaan: Voted Dump Day 1. Voted Pizza (killed) Day 2, after Pizza voted for him (but switched). Has not yet voted Day 3.

MRD: Voted Death is Yonder (killed) Day 1. Voted by Khaan and John Day 1. Voted Soulblade (lynched) Day 2. Is voting Montmorency Day 3.

Johnhughtom: Voted Dump Day 1. Voted Gibson (tied for lynch) Day 2. Is voting Gibson again Day 3. Doesn't say much.

Autolycus: Clearly my partner. No, but haven't we seen enough redundancy for one post? He's never been voted, and he's only voted people who threaten me. So there.


Alright, I have contributed nothing and pissed off both town *and* mafia. Either way, I'm dying today.

[Visor]

I like you. (I could say more, but I'd look life a fool.) Well, more of a fool.

Unvote; Vote: Populus Romanus

Eh... I'll comment after we resuce Montmorency from the lynch.

Tally...

[Visor]

1 x GibsonSg (johnhughthom)
4 x Populus Romanus (Classical Hero, khaaaaaaaaaaaaan, Visorslash, Montmorency)
1 x Visorslash (Autolycus)
2 x Montmorency (Ishmael, Major Robert Dump)

Tally.

Now... PR seems a decent choice for the lynch to me, but I'd like autolycus to post more. :D

[Montmorency]

Gah, so I missed khaan. Well, if I knew I were merely tied maybe I wouldn't have spent two hours on that post. :dizzy2:

[Visor]

Some people may see that as a panicking scum. (Y'know, a DEFENCE).

It helps us later in the game to analyse patterns and to me, suggests you shouldn't be lynched.

[Captain Blackadder]

5 more hours to go until round is over.

[Visor]

Then back to 24 hour phases?

[Ishmael]

You know what Montmorency, I think you've convinced me you aren't mafia. Nice post and analysis. However, the inconsistencies in the killings still strike me as odd. Why kill BestrfcPlayer when he was clearly going to be WoGed the next day? (we know he wasn't WoGed as our host said that would occur if he didn't post in the next day phase, and he was killed the preceding night). Why kill robbiecon if he was a lynch target that day?

Based on this, I'm swinging towards an experienced player trying to frame the newcomers. I don't think Populus Romanus is (still) scum as if he is away for a week he surely would be WoGed/replaced. Unfortunately, I've got nothing beyond this. I think I'll vote johnhughtom on the basis he's been voting very safely, on bandwagons and the like. I've also got an eye on Issaikhaan, who's been slipping under the radar somewhat and only posting the bare minimum (except for that slightly bizzare, tangential conversation with ATPG). In conclusion:

unvote, vote: johnhughtom

FoS: Khaan

EDIT: Thanks Visor

[Captain Blackadder]

Yes hopefully, its just that my second comp is one the fritz and I share the one I am on now and the person I share it with doesn't seem to like me saying I need to do a write up as reason to get it.

[Visor]

Need to unvote Ishmael.

[Captain Blackadder]

Also Bowwowwow will be replaced/wogged at the start of the next day phase. I will first ask Last Days to replace if not then the first one to reply who is dead will get the role.

[SoulBlade]

me me!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Khaan? Bizarre? Slipping under the radar? Strange dealings with Pizzaguy?


Nothing unusual here. Still, I want him to join me in the afterlife for some reason. :eyebrows:

[Captain Blackadder]

Round is over prepare for write up.

[Captain Blackadder]

This time as day ends on the city of Rome once more the Senators have made their decision once more. This time they have elected to kill one of the heroes of the Republic a woman whose virtue and honour in the darkest days of Nero has lead to her being called the paragon of Womanhood. Her name is Epicharis or PopulasRomanus Some have asked in recent years that if this woman could be so brave and honourable even when compared to those so called noble eques or Senators should she not have the chance for political power. These were dismissed as lunacy. However if this woman had being born a man it is she that would be the first man in Rome. Her death may very well be in vain but as she hears the death sentence against her she says but one sentence. I have done my duty as a Roman I only hope that others will do the same.

Epicharis (PopulasRomanus) is dead

Bowowwow has being replaced by The Last Days.

Begin the Night.

[johnhughthom]

(except for that slightly bizzare, tangential conversation with ATPG)

Unfortunately that conversation was quite normal for that pair.

[seireikhaan]

I'm sensing jealousy in this thread. It's thick enough you could slice it with a pizza cutter. :mellow:

[TheLastDays]

Reporting in to be murdered as a replacement :yes:

[Captain Blackadder]

Round Over Prepare for Write up

[Captain Blackadder]

As Night falls over the city of Rome we once again see a lone figure stalking his prey with the utmost care. Soon he is to be Emperor it is just a question of when not of if but of when. This man stalks the streets of Rome this time however he finds a different target a man who has just returned to Rome having being departed for some time. This man has the name Marcus Claudius Marcellus (TheLastDays). He is one of the backbenchers never to see greatness himself he was a legate and could have in the future become Consul but this is not to be as the foul assassin quickly fells him with a quick slash and returns to his home.

Marcus Claudius Marcellus (TheLastDays) is dead

However despite his success thus far in killing those that oppose him the killer will not mange to live to see the end. Appius Claudius Pulcher (JohnHughthom) having killed once more has returned to his house to plot his next evening's activities. As he prepares these things a group of men enter his house unlike other victims of the men this one they know will be harder. As they attempt to sneak up behind the man he suddenly turns and realises that he has being had. He screams at them. My name is Appius Claudius Pulcher. I am destined for greatness my family has seen twenty-eight consulships, five dictatorships, seven censorships, six triumphs and two ovations in our family. The prophecies told me that I was to be the third great Claudii I am part of the gentes maiores this cannot be. With this Pulcher takes out his dagger and leaps at the men who are attempting to kill him however this is to be in vain as the figures stab him to death.

Appius Claudius Pulcher (JohnHughthom) is dead

[TheLastDays]

Shock! Horror! I was killed! :O

[johnhughthom]

Shock! Horror! I was killed! :O

Well, you did ask...

[Major Robert Dump]

An after-hours lynch mob killed the serial killer. Interesting.

[autolycus]

That looks to me like the trio we've seen before. I think I will vote: khaan, as DiY and Atpg kills seem plausible choices for a scum team with him on it, and I think knowing if he's scum will give me more ideas about more other people than any other choice.

[Montmorency]

It seems Ishmael is being framed.

[Montmorency]

Welp, looks like nobody cares anymore.

[TheLastDays]

Well, you did ask...

It's fine, now I don't feel so bad about you dying N1 in CFOM :tongue:

[TheLastDays]

Welp, looks like nobody cares anymore.

The problem is, I'd have some catching up to do and seeing as I was killed I'm not sure I'll get to it... I'll try though

[Visor]

Vote: Autolycus

Then wouldn't that be a frame of Khaan then?

[Major Robert Dump]

Vote: Autolycus

[classical_hero]

It would be nice to have an updated player list. It would nice to see who is alive.

[Ishmael]

Here you go, the surviving players are:

Visorslash
Major Robert Dump
Classical_hero
Gibonsg
Ishmael
Issaikhaan
Montmorency
Autolycus

Whilst I'm at it, I've been keeping voting records for each player, so I'll give each remaining player's in turn (and let's see if I can get these spoiler tags to work):

Visorslash
Day 1: Ishmael > Soulblade
Day 2: BestfrcPlayer > Populus Romanus
Day 3: Classical_hero > Montmorency > Populus Romanus
Day 4: Autolycus

Major Robert Dump
Day 1: DeathisYonder
Day 2: SoulBlade
Day 3: Montmorency
Day 4: Autolycus
Classical_hero
Day 1: Robbiecon
Day 2: SoulBlade
Day 3: Populus Romanus
Day 4: None
Gibonsg
Day 1: None
Day 2: None
Day 3: None
Day 4: None

(note: I may have missed one day here)
Ishmael
Day 1: Bowwowwow > Warman
Day 2: Autolycus > SoulBlade
Day 3: Montmorency > johnhughtom
Day 4: None (yet)
Issaikhaan
Day 1: Major Robert Dump
Day 2: ATPG
Day 3: Populus Romanus
Day 4: None

Now some interesting things emerge when you look at these voting records. Major Robert Dump, in particular, has been very irregular with his voting. In the first day phase, MRD voted for DeathisYonder, who was subsequently killed that night. Obviously, in and of itself this isn't all that relevant, but it lends weight to subsequent arguments. In Day 2, he immediately went along with my case against Soulblade with no comment whatsoever. This could suggest a scum trying to blend in with the crowd, and voting a popular option.

However, Days 3 and 4 are the really telling ones. On both days, MRD unquestioningly followed Visorslash's vote. I am not proposing Visorslash is scum, but in fact this fits perfectly with what we've seen of the kills so far. It has already been clearly established that at least one of the killers is trying to frame the new players. The same mindset is evident in MRD's voting here - when he is outed as scum, it will frame Visorslash once people look at the voting record. I'm pretty sure MRD has the experience needed to pull such a stunt off.

As supporting evidence, MRD has been trying to play down the threat and numbers of the mafia:


Well based on the write ups thus far everyone who has been lynched/murdered has obviously been scum, so I predict a town win in one more day.

And his reasoning for his votes has been flimsy or non-existent:


ATPG may have been killed by someone he knew or was in cahoots with.

Says the guy who is willing to sell the Romans out to Big Cattle and Big Chariott cronies....
Unvote; vote: Montmorency

I don't think any more needs to be said.

vote: Major Robert Dump

[Visor]

8 people alive.

Montmorency
Autolycus
Visorslash
ClassicalHero
GibsonSg
MajorRobertDump
Ishmael
Khann

Tally:

2 Autolycus (Visorslash, Major Robert Dump)
1 Khaan (Autolycus)
1 Major Robert Dump (Ishmael)

Ishmael, you forgot Montmorency and Autolycus in your alive players tally.

I'll comment on your case soon.

[Ishmael]

Damn, I keep making mistakes in these tallies, don't I. I'll edit in the names, but I can't be bothered to update the voting - if anybody really wants the voting record, just PM me.

[Visor]

What about Auto or Montmorency? You forgot them...?

AH, nevermind.

Alright...


I am not proposing Visorslash is scum

I don't mind if you do. It's best to keep all avenues open.

I'm tempted to vote for MRD based on the last two days, but I think MRD is right in following me in this with Auto. Especially after Auto's comment about a frame of you I think it was?

Ah... I'll reread the thread and see who catches my eye.

[Visor]

Ah, no sorry, I was wrong here. Autolycus didn't post that. (About you being framed...)

But Montmorency did, and I'd like to hear more.

So, Unvote

Ishamel, how confident are you of your case? (Your personal opinion of it.)

[Visor]

Tally:

8 people, and we only have two hours to vote...

1 Autolycus (Major Robert Dump)
1 Khaan (Autolycus)
1 Major Robert Dump (Ishmael)

[Major Robert Dump]

@ Ishmael.

1. You obviously have a broken sarcasm detector. My comment about the town being about to win was sarcasm based on how horribly the town was doing.

2. The idea of there being any sort of consistency in mafia voting is a farce, particularly in this game. The vast majority of participants have no night-based abilities and all we can do is vote. No one is sharing info. The write-ups are detailed but vague in relation to suspicion of said players. That being said, any notion that someone will have a voting pattern in a game like this is silly. Also, due to the aforementioned reasons, there is no reason not to just random votes. I come here, I vote on someone. No case needed, as I don't have one.

3. You heavy participation in tallies and voting "patterns" is very indicative of a scum cover. More often than not, one of the town "leaders" is a scum.

4. Your willingness to make a case on me, and then link Visorslash to me when we have nothing to do with each other, would be highly convenient for a scum as he now has the next two days of lynches lined up. The fact that I voted with Visor means nothing, nor does the time proximity of my vote to his. We are not talking.

5. I could care less, since at this point I cannot help the town in any way. Making random votes is not really helping the town. When I am lynched, and it is revealed that I am innocent, then hopefully the town will turn on you for your obvious railroad attempt of someone who is barely participating.

6. See point 1. This is the huge scum tell. Paranoia.......

[Major Robert Dump]

Also, if you read my previous posts earlier in the game, I am obviously a peasant Senator and was trying to get someone to handshake with me due to mutual support of Plebians.

But since I apparently have to spell things out, no one ever contacted me. Between that and the fail at detecting sarcasm....I give up.

unvote. Vote Ishamel

[classical_hero]

Thanks for that, guys.

vote:Autolycus

[Visor]

Classical, why Autolycus?

[Ishmael]

It should be obvious to anybody that MRD is incriminating himself further. He outright states that he randomly votes on people for no reason. Hardly a helpful action for the town. Yet he has voted shortly after Visorslash for the exact same reason twice now, which according to my rudimentary knowledge of probability has about a 1 in 80 chance of occuring. Sound random?

Sure, that 1 in 80 chance could pop up naturally, and it's not sufficient evidence by itself. But look at the other facts. MRD is deliberately obfuscating, saying that "the idea of there being any sort of consistency in mafia voting is a farce" and "No one is sharing info." Yet by definition this is what the mafia can do, and so any complicity in voting is a very strong sign of mafia. MRD also throws out unsupported claims, for example that usually "one of the town leaders is a scum." And he accuses me of being paranoid.

It should be pretty clear that MRD's ramblings are the actions of a mafiosi desperately trying to cover himself. Lynch him now before the mafia gain the numbers and we lose the chance.

[Major Robert Dump]

You are accusing me of things I did not say, scummy.

You are saying It cannot be random, then go on to say random hurts town? which is it, Senator Kerry?

I didn't say it was random.com or I was rolling the dice. I said I log in, I vote, I leave. If Visorslash is on the same schedule as me, then what of it? Furthermore, why are we even talking about Visor to begin with? Help me understand.

You are either a terrible detective, and are grabbing at straws that don't exist and making cases that aren't there, or you are scum. Either way, after this phase, you will try to justify it with an equally poor argument.

In the meantime, I am only posting so I can hear some more of your terrible case. I expect to die, as I simply don't care. Let me off this boat, please.

**way not to address the sarcasm thing, so I presume you are still fooled**

[Visor]

Furthermore, why are we even talking about Visor to begin with? Help me understand.

You voted the same as I did. On two consecutive days. Other than that, I have no idea.

Now, we have 55 minutes until close of voting. We have a four way tie.

1 Ishmael (Major Robert Dump)
1 Khaan (Autolycus)
1 Major Robert Dump (Ishmael)
1 Autolycus (Classical_Hero)

[Captain Blackadder]

1 hour to go also if Gibson does not turn up this round he will be wogged.

[Visor]

Gibson does not turn up this round he will be wogged.

No replacement? SoulBlade said earlier he wanted to play. WOG's don't help the town.

[Major Robert Dump]

You voted the same as I did. On two consecutive days. Other than that, I have no idea.

Now, we have 55 minutes until close of voting. We have a four way tie.

1 Ishmael (Major Robert Dump)
1 Khaan (Autolycus)
1 Major Robert Dump (Ishmael)
1 Autolycus (Classical_Hero)

Well make it four then, and kill the tourist-conspirator

[Visor]

I'm tempted to vote Gibson now.

Vote: Gibson

[Visor]

@ Ishamel and MRD

We don't really know how many scumbags there are left. Well I don't. You guys might if you're scum, but whatever. You two arguing seems like ATPG and Andres in the Campground. I know this has been brought up in other games, but you two don't seem like scum to me.

Now, in a game this size, as per my previous comments, I'm assuming three mafioso.

So, assuming worst case situation, we have three scumbags and 5 townies. I hope this isn't the case, but I don't know.

If we lynch a townie, then the mafia kill someone, we lose. Game Over.

So if Gibson is inactive town, we lose.
If he is inactive scum, we don't lose yet. We still can win.

(It'll be 4 town 2 scum then, on the next day.)

Again, this is only in the worst case situation.

So I'm suggesting we vote Gibson. No lurker victories.

If Gibson is town and wogged, and we lynch wrong, that means we lose, as it is then 3 scum and 3 town.) If he is scum and wogged and we lynch a townie, it becomes 4/2. If gibson is scum, and we lynch him, then it is 2 scum and 5 town. If we are wrong, it is then 3 scum and 4 town. ARGH!

No idea who to vote for...

Unvote

[TheLastDays]

This makes no sense. Lynch him tomorrow if he shows up but I doubt that he does before the deadline. He'll be wogged and the round is wasted if we lynch someone who would be wogged the same phase.
Lynch khaan.

[Montmorency]

Ah, no sorry, I was wrong here. Autolycus didn't post that. (About you being framed...)

But Montmorency did, and I'd like to hear more.


Guess I'll just quote my analysis. But first, Vote: MRD. You're flinching, scum.

[Visor]

@ TLD

Why?

Argh...

If MRD is town, I'm gunning for you Ishmael.

Vote: MRD

Checking up on your analysis.

@ Monty

Really don't get it. Please explain?

[Ishmael]

If MRD is town, I'm gunning for you Ishmael.
Vote: MRD

If MRD is town I'm pretty sure we've all lost anyway, so it won't really matter much.

[Montmorency]

Visor, 3 -3 is what could happen tomorrow. What happens there is that 3 *must* vote for the same candidate, or town definitely does lose as the Mafia takes it apart at ther leisure.

[Major Robert Dump]

unvote. Vote: MRD

Just to make sure.

[Captain Blackadder]

Round Over prepare for write up.

[Visor]

1 Wog
1 Lynch
1 NK

8 - 3 * 1 = 5

This is assuming one of the WoG or Lynch is a scum. (It's it the WoG, not the lynch, Ishmael wil be my target.) If it's the other way round, I'm going to have to think hard.

Therefore 2 scum and three townies.

So we have to have a definite lynch tomorrow or we lose tomorrow. :/.

[Montmorency]

Ishmael: Voted Warman (lynched) Day 1. Voted by Death is Yonder (killed) Day 1. Voted Soulblade (lynched) Day 2.Is voting Montmorency Day 3. Has a strategy? Makes much of his own inexperience. Very earnest and eager. When Montmorency dies, all who have been associated with him will have died.

He changed to vote for johnhughthom. Who just happened to be killed by Mafia that night. Warman and Soulblade don't say too much, but Death is Yonder and Johnhughthom - think about it.

EDIT: Oh, and I failed to take a wog into account. I guess that's definite because he didn't show up before the round ended, right?

[TheLastDays]

Johnhughthom killed me though. He wasn't innocent.

[Ishmael]

Well, see you guys in the morning.

[Montmorency]

Visorslash asked me why I thought Ishmael was being set up/framed. That's my response.

I guess I should have mentioned that, but still, it's clear enough.

[Captain Blackadder]

As Day falls over the city of Rome once more it is decided that two must die. The first is a man that has not spoken yet in this foul chain of events the second is a man that has spoken at length throughout but has as a result made many enemies. The first man is dragged up before the senate his name is Titus Flavius Vespasianus (GibsonSG) he looks around shocked that he of all people is now before the Senate. He looks almost cocky as if expecting something to happen however as the seconds pass he quickly realises that this is not to be. He screams at the top of his lungs for his father to save him. He looks at various people around the senate trying to catch certain peoples eyes. Then his eyes fall on his father. His father makes a curt sign and just like that all the fight departs from Titus he makes but a whimper as he is lead away to his death.

Titus Flavius Vespasianus (GibsonSG) is dead wogged

The next man dragged up is Quintus Licinius Bibulus (MajorRobertDump) he is not a wealthy man by any stretch of the imagination.He is a man that rose up through the ranks of power whilst he is no novus homus his uncle had that honour. He still had that air about him that made the more established families dislike him. He always had that plebeian nature to him and he would go to his grave because of it. However unlike Titus their is no whimpering or crying. Quintus is a military man he had just returned from Syria where he had being serving as a legate with honour. He stands with a ramrod posture as he is walked out of the senate house. The senate realises that as he goes that they have got very lucky that day there are so few of them left and some suspect that if Titus had spoken more loudly during the debate that the republic might have gone to its grave on the back of Quintus.

Quintus Licinius Bibulus (MajorRobertDump) is dead

Montmorency
Autolycus
Visorslash
ClassicalHero
Ishmael
Khann

Night begins.

[Montmorency]

Well...****

I done :daisy: up.

[Major Robert Dump]

bravo

[autolycus]

On the bright side, since scum got WOGged, we're not dead yet.

[classical_hero]

What on earth just happened? How on earth did MRD get lynched?

@Auto, you should fix your signature.

[TheLastDays]

Because no one listened to me :P

[Captain Blackadder]

Round Over Prepare for write up

[Captain Blackadder]

As the next night falls on the City of Rome the next victim returns to his home. He enters the house and unlike the other house that he saw this one displays the great wealth of its individual however there are some key differences. This house contains not fine artwork or sculpture but it contains manuscripts from the greatest minds in the entire world. This house is a library to knowledge itself. The assassin creeps past the busts of the great men of Athens and Rome to the study where he sees a collection of speeches written by the man himself Quintus Hortensius Hortalus plus his work on history. Hortensius was a great friend of Cicero and this shows the kind of man that lives in this house. A staunch republican lives here. This is a man that prises knowledge. The house also shows other thing this is not a man who cares for shows of wealth rather then spending a fortune on a sculpture a new manuscript would be preferable. The assassins have decided that hopefully this will be the last time that they are forced to kill and that the senate will surrender The assassin's pulls out a cord of rope raps it around the neck of Proculus Antonius Arcadius (Autolycus) and strangles him.

Proculus Antonius Arcadius (Autolycus) is dead

Montmorency
Visorslash
ClassicalHero
Ishmael
Khann

[Montmorency]

Is surrender actually an option?

[johnhughthom]

Your edit was too late Capt B, I saw it. Clearly your Nan is the killer!

[Montmorency]

Classicalhero: Voted robbiecon (killed) Day 1. Voted Soulblade (lynched) Day 2. Voted Romanus (lynched) Day 3.

On Day 4:


Thanks for that, guys.

vote:Autolycus

Autolycus was killed tonight. What reason was there for that vote? His was the only vote on autolycus, after Dump voted himself. What is he thanking the "guys" for?

[TheLastDays]

I'll say it again, for emphasis: Lynch Khaan! :yes:

[Captain Blackadder]

Is surrender actually an option?

I suppose you could if you wanted to. It would mean the mafia wins but your "characters" survive for a sequel if there is one.

[Montmorency]

Wait, I think there might be a mistake in the writeup.


Quintus Hortensius Hortalus plus his work on history. Hortensius was a great friend of Cicero and this shows the king of man that lives in this house. A staunch republican lives here. This is a man that prises knowledge. The house also shows other thing this is not a man who cares for shows of wealth rather then spending a fortune on a sculpture a new manuscript would be preferable. The assassins have decided that hopefully this will be the last time that they are forced to kill and that the senate will surrender The assassin's pulls out a cord of rope raps it around the neck of Proculus Antonius Arcadius (Autolycus) and strangles him.

Proculus Antonius Arcadius (Autolycus) is dead

:X

[Captain Blackadder]

The sentence means that the assassin found some of Quintus work since Quintus was a very famous man in Rome the second greatest orator in history.

[TheLastDays]

Whoever the townies among you are, get voting. The Maifa will vote eventually, so go ahead and lynch Khaan :yes:

[Montmorency]

Khaan schmaan, there is a second mafioso (even assuming Khaan is the first). So how about we do classical hero today?

[TheLastDays]

It's your choice anyway, I'm dead and thus have no vote but do something.

[Montmorency]

Very well. I hope to Jove that the innocents will come around to this.

Vote: classical hero

[Visor]

I'm not going to surrender.

Vote: Classical Hero

[Ishmael]

I agree with the above, classical's vote for autolycus came completely out of the blue and had no apparent logic to it.

vote: classical_hero

With my luck, Visorslash and Montmorency are probably scum and are laughing themselves to death (thereby saving us the trouble of lynching them :laugh4:)

[Montmorency]

No, it's visor and Ishmael. :smug:

Hrm, I really hope this super-great Town teamwork FTW and not game-winning Mafia WIFOM. :/

Oh, and apparently Ipads can connect to the Internet where I am going, so I should be able to pop in Day 6.

[Visor]

Where are you going by the way?

Ipads can connect to wireless connection, or sometimes mobile ones if I recall correctly. Been a while since I used one.

Nothing to do now but wait.

[Askthepizzaguy]

KHAAAAAAAAAN

[Visor]

Tally:

3 x Classical_Hero (Montmorency, Visorslash, Ishmael).

Not voting: Khaan, Classical Hero

Four hours and 12 minutes to go.

[TheLastDays]

Well... if khaan and classical don't show up to vote it's almost for certain that there's scum among the other three... but I think they will show up. Otherwise they'll get lynched anyway...

[classical_hero]

I might as well go with the flow, not. If I wanted to lynch Auto, it would not make much sense to have him killed. It was the only time I have ever mentioned him. He was only list as scum, but obviously he was not. My second guess would be vote:khann I am rarely a man of few words so I will not defend myself.

[Visor]

Tally:

3 x Classical_Hero (Montmorency, Visorslash, Ishmael).

1 x Khaan (Classical hero)

Not voting: Khaan

3 hours 24 minutes ish to go.

Four hours and 12 minutes to go.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Khaan.... you evil, evil, evil dirty man.


19K just to tell you that you're evil and dirty. I hope you're proud. :snobby:

[Visor]

What is your obsession with Khaan? :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

What is your obsession with Khaan? :laugh4:

Isn't it obvious? I died because Khaan killed me AND he has the balls to do it even though I know he would do it.

And he can get away with it, because, he, is, KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

[TheLastDays]

Well since khaan will probably not show up and use his awesome double vote powers to lynch himself I guess classical is doomed. Let's hope for the best.

[Visor]

Well I don't know your history with Khaan so I'm not the person to ask that question.

Though I must say, it is rather catchy to say khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan instead of khaan.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well since khaan will probably not show up and use his awesome double vote powers to lynch himself I guess classical is doomed. Let's hope for the best.

No, let's NOT hope for the best, let's hope the people voting classical switch to KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

[TheLastDays]

No, let's NOT hope for the best, let's hope the people voting classical switch to KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

What I said. Hope for the best :yes:

[Visor]

Why is Khaan a better choice than Classical?

[Askthepizzaguy]

At this point I'm a little concerned that my tension with khaan is non-hetero.

Nah. Still like the girlies. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

Khaan must die. That young man fills me with murderous rage. Plus some other emotions which are weird and deeply confusing.

[TheLastDays]

Why is Khaan a better choice than Classical?

Ask Captain Kirk