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Kage and CR rode back into the gardens on War Ostriches. CR surveyed the crowd in a regal fashion, while Kage dismounted, carefully avoiding the various blades and Borg lasers strapped to the creature. The latter then walked up to the assembled group of henchmen.
"So, which one of you is this most horrible Thing?"
Nearly every man present pointed at Emilio.
Kage looked at him cautiously for a moment, then smiled. "Greetings, alien from another star! I am Emperor Kagemusha, Supreme Overlord of the Terran Dominions. That," he gestured to CR, "is my co-Emperor, Rabbit von Crazypants. We welcome you to our most wondrous planet!"
Kage gave Emilio a sweeping bow. Emilio just stared at the wall and grinned.
"Uh, yes..." Kage continued, "we welcome you to Earth, and would like to forge an alliance between our two great peoples. Think of it! With our armies of expendable henchmen and your laser guns and proton accelerator beams, the galaxy will fall before us!"
Emilio picked his nose.
Kage frowned. "You do have laser guns, don't you?" Emilio didn't move. "No? Proton beams? Ion disentanglement devices? Veral Thrust Capacitors?" Emilio licked CR's War Ostrich.
"This is an insult!" scowled Kage. "How dare you come to this planet as the ambassador for your race and refuse to even negotiate with us?! Are you planning on giving your supreme power to another overlord? You are, aren't you!"
Emilio drooled on himself.
"We cannot allow this treason to continue! If we cannot possess your Magma Generators and Phase Shields, no one shall!" He looked at CR, who nodded. "Crumpet, Twinkie... KILL!"
The War Ostriches went wide eyed and jumped on Emilio. There was an orgy of squawks, feathers, blades, and blood. Eventually, CR pulled back on the reigns. "Easy Crumpet. That's enough, Twinkie." The birds cleared away, revealing a grisly scene of dismembered body parts and crushed organs.
CR turned to the henchmen. "Alright, well, nothing left to worry about then. The alien is obviously dead, so get back to work. Remember, tonight is the nuclear missile silo and french bakery. We both expect piping hot croissant for breakfast."
"I wouldn't mind a soft-boiled egg as well," added Kage.
Emilio: 7 (Nick, Vito, Frank, Silvio, Luciano, Sonny, Bobby)
Vito: 2 (Luigi, Rocco)
Not Voting: 3 (Emilio, Johnny, Vinny)
Night 4 will end in:
(Note: The end time for this phase will be 9am EDT instead of the usual 10am EDT, as I will be busy at 10am tomorrow.)
Alive: (11/17)
[MAFIA] Bobby
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Nick
08-18-2011, 17:10
I hope history will vindicate me.
Why did Em not speak in defensery?
Oh jeez, maybe last minute transfery?
As for myself, I await your summary judgment. I neither beg nor expect your pardon: It is our doom to suffer the consequences of our acts, regardless of the piety of our intentions.
Some pollution begs not the cloth, but the knife; this I accept and understand.
Sin is sin.
The bakery oven had been successfully installed, and the henchman was busy connecting it to the fueling system of the ICBM missile silo. He asked his partner to hand him a crescent wrench. While he was tightening a nut, he began to muse. "Kage and CR are very big on dual-use facilities. Is that environmentalism or economics?"
The partner shrugged, "Could just be perversity."
"And what's with these 'lynchings' every day? Of all people, Kage and CR should know that those things don't work to catch enemies, but they make us do it anyway. You know, I'm as grateful as you that they don't just slaughter us all at once to kill the Thing, but they're not exactly the kind of people to care about losing some henchmen. It just..." the henchman shook his head, "...doesn't make a whole lot of sense."
"Perhaps they are trying to educate us."
The henchman dropped his wrench and turned to look at his partner, "Educate us? What is that supposed to mean? This is all some kind of lesson?"
The partner shrugged again, "Well, we all insist on being jokey and creating artificial speech patterns. Such things are inherently unnatural, as all fabrications are, and thus they are even easier for someone to impersonate than normal behavior. I suspect CR and Kage realize this and are giving us a chance to prove our capabilities by rectifying our errors."
The henchman scowled, "well, you're as bad as the rest of us. I haven't seen you trying to do a whole lot of analysis. Who are you to lecture me on the various points of detecting enemies?"
The partner sighed, "I see this will require a bit more of a lesson than I had planned on giving. Very well," he hopped up on the edge of a counter and sat, his legs dangling off. "pay attention and you will learn something. All these Points, I say, are supposed and believed by certain rigorous Exactors of Evidence in Intuition, Men who pretend to believe no further than they can see. That Men, who have been conversant only about clear Points, should with difficulty admit obscure ones might not seem altogether unaccountable. But he who can digest a "Scummy" Entity, a second or third degree of WIFOM, need not, methinks, be squeamish about any Point in Inspiration. There is a natural Presumption that Mens Faculties are made alike. It is on this Supposition that they attempt to argue and convince one another. What, therefore, shall appear evidently impossible and repugnant to one, may be presumed the same to another. But with what appearance of Reason shall any Man presume to say, that Mysteries may not be Objects of Faith, at the same time that he himself admits such obscure Mysteries to be the Object of Science? "
The partner jumped down from the counter and began to pace the aisle. "It must indeed be acknowledged, the modern Behavioralists do not consider these Points as Mysteries, but as clearly conceived and mastered by their comprehensive Minds. They scruple not to say, that by the help of these new Analytics they can penetrate into Infinity it self: That they can even extend their Views beyond Infinity: that their Art comprehends not only Infinite, everything dealing with motivation, but Infinite of Infinite (as they express it) or an Infinity of Infinites. But, notwithstanding all these Assertions and Pretensions, it may be justly questioned whether, as other Men in other Inquiries are often deceived by Words or Terms, so they likewise are not wonderfully deceived and deluded by their own peculiar Signs, Symbols, or Species. Nothing is easier than to devise Expressions or Notations for "scummy" and "WIFOM" of the first, second, third, fourth, and subsequent Orders, proceeding in the same regular form without end or limit. These Expressions indeed are clear and distinct, and the Mind finds no difficulty in conceiving them to be continued beyond any assignable Bounds. But if we remove the Veil and look underneath, if laying aside the Expressions we set ourselves attentively to consider the things themselves, which are supposed to be expressed or marked thereby, we shall discover much Emptiness, Darkness, and Confusion; nay, if I mistake not, direct Impossibilities and Contradictions. Whether this be the case or no, every thinking Reader is intreated to examine and judge for himself."
When he was done preaching, the partner turned to face the henchman. The man was staring at him blankly. "Uh, what? Sorry, I tuned out after you said 'extractors.'"
The partner grew visibly angry. So visibly angry that his jaw seemed to extend, his ears shrank, and his limbs lengthened into claws. "You have chosen..." he sneered, exposing row after row of wickedly sharp teeth, "poorly."
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CR was munching on a croissant. It was fresh and its crust was perfectly crisp. "MMMmmmm..."
Kage, busy tucking into his egg, "Mmpphh"ed in agreement.
When the two were done with their breakfast, they turned to the assembled henchmen. "Not bad at all," said Kage. "Any henchman can build a nuclear missile silo, but it takes a talented crew to create a bakery."
"Very versatile," nodded CR. "I was particularly surprised by the fluffy bakiness of the croissants and baguettes. Where is Bobby? Didn't he do some work on the oven with someone else? I'd like to shake his hand."
Everyone looked around, Bobby was nowhere to be found. Kage grew suspicious, "Say... maybe Emilio wasn't the alien after all!" CR raised an eyebrow, "interesting theory, my evil friend." "Indeed," replied Kage. He eyes suddenly widened, "which means we have another chance at meeting the fellow today!" "YOU!" he pointed at the assembled henchmen, "find Mr. Thing for us, so that we can have a most proper conversation with him."
"And make it quick," added CR, "tonight we build the Room With The Giant TV Screen and Waterpark."
Day 4 will end in:
Alive: (10/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-19-2011, 14:23
I will survive! :beam: Vote: Johnny
Multiply entities as much as possible as the most complex explanation is usually the right one. Am I still Pizza-as-Reenk-as-Pizza, or have I now become Reenk-as-Pizza-as-Reenk-as-Pizza? :wink: Use Reenk's Razor to find out.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-19-2011, 15:03
Uhm... Bobby isn't around eh?
Vote: Bobby :P
[MAFIA] Vito
08-19-2011, 18:28
Rocco;2053361718']I will survive! :beam: Vote: Johnny
Multiply entities as much as possible as the most complex explanation is usually the right one. Am I still Pizza-as-Reenk-as-Pizza, or have I now become Reenk-as-Pizza-as-Reenk-as-Pizza? :wink: Use Reenk's Razor to find out.
You're still Pizza, Reenk stopped advocating Reenk's Razor a while ago. :smartass2:
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-19-2011, 18:51
Frank;2053361743']Uhm... Bobby isn't around eh?
Vote: Bobby :PNon sai leggere? Si dice che è morto e ancora di votare per lui. Non molto bene di voi.
[No personal attacks, even in foreign languages under anonymous accounts - GH]
[MAFIA] Frank
08-19-2011, 18:54
I read that anyway, and it was a joke vote...
[MAFIA] Frank
08-19-2011, 18:56
And Unvote; Vote: Nick
For the Emilio wagon.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-19-2011, 19:35
Ok.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-19-2011, 19:37
Vote:Nick
In so surrendering do I conquer. In so yielding do I seize. :bow:
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 01:34
Okay guys, don't vote for Nick. Nick, this includes you. Reenk may be a lot of things, but he is also a sportsman at heart. Reenk said here that he wasn't going to take over Nick:
Paulie;2053360190']I'm The Thing :2thumbsup: and I'm going to take one small step for a mafioso, one giant step for Mafia, and replace my first victim tonight. :grin: It could be any of you (except Nick because I'm not writing poems for any period of time).
...which means that we can basically strike Nick off the list. Reenk's smart enough to win without resorting to outright lying to us (and he knows it too) and a simple misdirection move like this would provide him no enjoyment. Basically, unless Reenk acts completely out-of-character I think we can safely cross Nick off the list and move onto other suspects.
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
I'm taking myself off the list; believe me if you want to or not. I'm also taking Rocco/Pizza off the list, who I'm about 99% sure isn't Reenk due to posting style.
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
Luciano's been speaking Italian the entire game, and I think Vinny is khaan (unless Emilio was) because neither of them have posted much.
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
Shot in the dark here, but I think it's one of these five.
Vote: Sonny
[MAFIA] Nick
08-20-2011, 01:54
Fine, very well, I will do what I will.
But Reenk shall still - in the end - get his fill.
As confirmed town, I'm soon up for the kill.
Unvote: Nick; Vote: Sonny
[MAFIA] Johnny
08-20-2011, 06:40
vote: Vito
You seem to understand this Reenk fellow well. A little too well. Granted, we have been stuck in this frozen prison of a labor camp for days now. I know I've gotten a little closer with some of my fellow men than I'd ever admit to anyone back home... Regardless, you seem fishy. And you're one of the few people who have yet to start brushing your teeth after I complained about everyone's breath smelling like coffee. *points Toothbrush of Suspicion at Vito*
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-20-2011, 06:47
Sigh, I make the effort to make sentences that Reenk would have no shot at translating properly by himself and this is what I get.
我不肯接受这不得了的情况。但还是不太迟,所谓 ”亡羊补牢,未为晚也”。
Luciano's been speaking Italian the entire game
And how does this prove anything really? Reenk could simply use an online translator, heck, even google translate translates it into a sentence which makes sense (Indicative of translating English to Italian), he wouldn't be hard pressed to do that.
If you're voting for me, you basically believe that:
1) Reenk went to extremes to translate chinese to try and prove his innocence
2) Reenk has consented to "take the easy way out" and post maybe once a day which is my normal habit
3) Reenk likes to post at 2am/4am just to act innocent.
Essentially if you think that Reenk has taken over me, or that I am Reenk, you would likewise believe that Reenk would be lax in his posting, and conversely put in a heavy commitment to post at ungodly hours at his time, which would be odd.
In any case, I think between Frank and Luciano I'd pick Frank.
Post Preview: Nevermind, I didn't think it was Johnny until he posted. Seems out of place with the reference to the passing attempt at humor in one of Johnny's post. I'm inclined to think that it is very unlikely that such a passing joke would be re-used again, seems more like an attempt to pretend to be the same guy. Just a bad feeling about this guy.
Vote: Johnny
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 07:05
Johnny: I have been playing Mafia games with Reenk for roughly five years now and have moderated the Gameroom for the past two where it is my job to read every single solitary post made to make sure rules are being followed. Add that with the fact that Reenk is one of the more unique personalities I have ever come across, not just on this forum or on the internet, but most unique, period, and yeah, I'd like to think that I'm able to at least have an idea where to start in trying to pick him out of a crowd.
Sonny: First of all, regarding the Luciano thing, since he's exclusively speaking Italian there is absolutely zero challenge in replicating his posting style. As I mentioned before, I think Reenk is a sportsman and would go for the more challenging route so he can relish in his victory all the more once things are done.
Secondly, I basically randomly picked you out of the five names I had listed as probable suspects. But your rationalizations and defenses are interesting to note. Mainly, your usage of timezones, which puts yourself in Eastern Daylight to two hours to the east of that, which is the Atlantic Ocean and Eastern Canada. Actually, now that I think on it you might be Tratorix, but then again timezone obfuscation seems like the sort of thing Reenk would do. I also note that right now it's 1am in Michigan, hardly an ungodly hour.
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Also, everyone, please keep in mind that the above list I made is good for this one round only, as the chances that Reenk makes a doppelganger kill to throw us all off the mark are quite high.
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-20-2011, 07:09
Hmm? The 2am/4am thing was just a rough gauge.
I honestly expected the language to be a pretty darn big sign about who I am.
And I recall posting at 3am EST (I think) before.
Anyway I'm going to be out for 5 hours. Feel free to make a guess on who I am and consider whether I'm Reenk or not.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 07:15
Hm, this makes sense. DiY, I presume.
Unvote: Sonny
Vote: Silvio
Another shot in the dark.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-20-2011, 08:42
Unvote: Sonny
Nick (1) : Frank
Silvio (1): Vito
Johnny (1): Sonny
Vito (1): Johhny
Vito hangs immediately before you, suspended by nails through his thighs and forearms, naked save for the Agonic Collar about his throat. He seems scarcely conscious. Dagliash had been a great sentinel once, staring across the wastes of Antarctica toward the Board Index, her turrets manned by the hard-hearted men of Norway. Now she was but a way station of the Org's ruin. Norway was dead, her people extinct, and the great cities of the Frontroom were little more than gutted shells. The guests had fled to TWC, and the remaining Orgah nations —EB and the Backroom—battled for their very lives. Five years had passed since the advent of the Reenk-Roink. The Orgahs could feel him, a looming across the western horizon. A sense of doom.
A harrowing cry cuts through the air. You actually crouch, though you know no harm could befall you, peer in the direction of the sound. You grip the bloodstained timber. On a different brace of scaffolding farther down the fortifications, a Bashrag stoops over a thrashing shadow. Long black hair streams from the fist-sized moles that pock its massive frame. A vestigial face grimaces from each of its great and brutal cheeks. Without warning, it stands—each leg three legs welded together, each arm three arms—and hoists a pale figure over the heights: a man hanging from a nail as long as a spear. For a moment the wretch kicks air like a child drawn from the tub, then the Bashrag thrusts him against the husk of corpses. Wielding an immense hammer, the monstrosity begins battering the nail, searching for unseen mortises. More cries peal across the heights. The Bashrag clacks its teeth in ecstasy.
Immobilized, you watch the Bashrag raise a second nail to the man’s pelvis. The wails become raving shrieks. Then a shadow falls across the townie. “Anguish,” a deep voice says, as close as a whisper in your ear. Intake of breath, sharp and sudden. The incongruent taste of warm Gameroom air …
Then there he is—Reenk—standing over him, staring at Vito where he hangs flushed and alive among gaping mouths and groping limbs.
“Anguish and degradation,” the Thing continues, his voice resonant with inhuman tones. “Who would think, GH, that salvation could be found in these words?”
Reenk stands in the curiously affected manner of horrible Mafia aliens, his hands clasped and pressed into the small of his back. He wears a gown of sheer black damask beneath a corselet of nimil that had been worked into circles of interlocking cranes. Tails of nimil chain follow the gown’s pleats to the ground.
“Salvation …” Vito gasps in GeneralHankerchief's voice. He raises his swollen gaze to the Mafia Prince. “Has it progressed so far, Roink? Do you recall so little?”
A flicker of terror mars the Thing’s perfect features. His pupils become thin as quill strokes. After millennia of practising scummery, the alien bears a Mark that is far, far deeper than that borne by any Andres, Sasaki, or Pizza—like indigo compared with water. Despite his preternatural beauty, despite the porcelain whiteness of his skin, he seems blasted, blackened, and withered, a husk of cinders at once animate and extinct.
“Recall?” Reenk replies with a gesture at once plaintive and majestic. “But I have raised such a wall …” As though to emphasize his declaration, the sun flares across the wall’s length, warming the dead with crimson.
“An obscenity!” Vito spits. The nets flap about the nailed corpses. To his right, near to where the wall curves out of sight, you glimpse a carrion arm waving back and forth, as though warning away unseen ships.
“As are all monuments, all memorials,” Reenk replies, lowering his chin toward his right shoulder—the Mafia gesture of assent. “What are they but prostheses that pronounce our impotence, our debility? I may live forever, but alas, what I have lived is mortal. Your suffering, GH, is my salvation.”
“No, Reenk …” Hearing the strain in the General's voice fills you with an eye-watering ache. “It need not be like this! I’ve read the ancient chronicles. I studied the engravings along the High White Halls before Tosa Inu ordered your image struck. You were great once. You were among those who raised us, who made the Orgahs first among the Tribes of Forumites! You were not this, my Prince! You were never this!”
Again the eerie sideways nod. A single tear scores his cheek. “Which is why, Hankerchief. Which is why …” A cut scars where a caress fades away. In this simple fact lies the tragic and catastrophic truth of the Mafia. Reenk Roink has lived a hundred lifetimes—more! What would it be like, you wonder, to have every redeeming memory—be it a scum buddy's touch or a night kill's horrified squeal—blotted out by the accumulation of anguish, terror, and hate? To understand the soul of a mafioso, the philosopher Lemur had once written, one need only bare the back of an old and arrogant slave. Scars. Scars upon scars. This is what makes them mad. All of them.
“I am an Erratic,” Reenk is saying. “I do that which I hate, I raise my heart to the lash, so that I might remember! Do you understand what this means? You are my children!”
“There must be some other way,” GH gasps. The Thing lowers his bald head, like a son overcome by remorse in the presence of his father. “I am an Erratic …” Tears sheen his cheeks when he looks up. “There is no other way.”
Hankerchief strains against the nails impaling his arms, cries out in pain, “Kill me, then! Kill me and be done with it!”
“But you know, GeneralHanerchief.”
“What? What do I know?”
“The location of the secret detective.”
Vito stares, eyes rounded in horror, teeth clenched in agony. “If I did, you would be the one bound, and I would be your tormentor.”
Reenk backhands him with a ferocity that makes you jump. Droplets of blood sail down the wall’s mangled length.
“I will strip you to your footings,” the Mafioso grates. “Though I love, I will upend your soul’s foundation! I will release you from the delusions of this word ‘Town,’ and draw forth the beast—the soulless beast!—that is the howling Truth of all things … You will tell me!”
The old mod coughs, drooling blood.
“And I, GeneralHankerchief … I will remember!”
You glimpse rows of fused, sharp teeth. Reenk's eyes flare like spears of sunlight. Orange-burning circles appear about each of his fingertips, boiling, seething with fractal edges. You recognize the sorcery immediately: a Mafia variant of the cult conversion ability. With volcanic palms, Reenk clenches GH's brow, serrates both body and soul.
Vito howls in voices not his own.
“Shhhh,” Reenk whispers, clutching the old townie's cheek. He squeezes away tears with his thumb. “Hush, child …”
Vito can only gag and convulse.
“Please,” the Thing says. “Please do not cry …”
In case I die before Vito :shrug:
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 09:48
Johnny;2053362090']vote: Vito
You seem to understand this Reenk fellow well. A little too well. Granted, we have been stuck in this frozen prison of a labor camp for days now. I know I've gotten a little closer with some of my fellow men than I'd ever admit to anyone back home... Regardless, you seem fishy. And you're one of the few people who have yet to start brushing your teeth after I complained about everyone's breath smelling like coffee. *points Toothbrush of Suspicion at Vito*
Understanding Reenk is a worthy endeavor, a feat many have attempted; a feat almost all have yet to master. But to pretend to understand Reenk is the height of arrogance. Men with relatively remarkable intellects strive toward this Understanding, struggling in vain to comprehend his Points, achieving little in the process. It is not the meager achievement but the struggle which interests me the most, for life itself is a continual struggle towards Comprehension; to Know, to Understand, and to realize what can and cannot be Known. If Man could begin to fathom the limits of his own Comprehension, then he would truly begin to Understand.
The first and greatest Endeavor is to know thyself. Only a fool would suggest that he grasps the complexities of another when he cannot begin to understand why he does what he does. If Man does not know himself, then he cannot completely trust his judgment on others. To Presume that another is "Scummy" or "Innocent" based on his own judgments is to Presume Man can trust his own judgment; if that premise is flawed, then inexorably what follows is that Man is blinded by his own ignorance of himself. Man accepts as a matter of Faith that his judgment is trustworthy, and through that Faith he may begin to Achieve. But regardless of positive accomplishments (or indeed, negative ones) he cannot full credit himself; he is only a bit player in his own destiny. At the very edges of his consciousness the fog of the Unknown permeates everything. Man believes that he is at the center of the Known and that he is peering out into the Unknown, but in truth, his very being resides within the Unknown, because he does not know himself fully. As such, it is the Unknown which drives him forward, compelled by his Faith in his own limited Knowledge and the illusory concept of Choice, towards his ultimate fate.
This Point forms the root of self-knowledge; knowing that you do not know yourself. Man only begins his journey towards Understanding when his perspective changes, and he does not consider himself at the center of what is Known, and accepts that the greatest factor in his sentience is the Unknown. Then he can begin to consider Moods, biases, flawed logic, and begin to Understand what drives his own Intuition; better grasping the Unknown Factors which dominate his consciousness allow a more self-aware individual to flourish. As such, this individual will be better prepared to understand and to judge the factors in others which drive their own consciousness; their moods, their biases, their very intuition. Each person will have similar Factors and different Factors from another person, but patterns begin to emerge. From those patterns, true behavioral analysis can be attempted. Analytical Men can then perhaps put their energies toward a better and higher purpose. Until such time, however, Man must rely on his flawed intuition, and submit to the chaotic unknown that resides within his own Understanding.
When you were getting closer to these men, did you get to know them on a deeper level? Were their feeble bodies mere sacks of moist flesh for you to inhabit? Or, perhaps, were you experimenting with a new kind of intimacy, diving deep into the mysterious Unknown of your own sexuality?
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 09:58
Well, even if I'm dead wrong (which is always a distinct possibility), at least he doesn't get to laugh at me and point out how wrong I am/was until the game is over.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:02
Vito;2053362013']
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
Shot in the dark here, but I think it's one of these five.
An excellent premise, but your conclusion is flawed. Reenk resides now within Johnny, or myself. :bow: I will allow you the opportunity to decide which is the true Reenk, and which is the poseur. If you choose incorrectly, I may inhabit you next, so think carefully.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:06
Rocco;2053362137']An excellent premise, but your conclusion is flawed. Reenk resides now within Johnny, or myself. :bow: I will allow you the opportunity to decide which is the true Reenk, and which is the poseur. If you choose incorrectly, I may inhabit you next, so think carefully.
Getting better, but it's still the same round where you made the outdated reference to Reenk's Razor, so I know you're still Pizza. :tongue:
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:08
Vito;2053362138']Getting better, but it's still the same round where you made the outdated reference to Reenk's Razor, so I know you're still Pizza. :tongue:
Very good. Now all you have to do is unvote, and vote for Johnny. Bravo, General, bravo.
Unless of course you are as enamoured with the idea of Reenk continuing to play games with us as I am. I wouldn't miss it for the world.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:15
Why Johnny more so than the others on the list?
And I notice you haven't voted yet.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:16
Vito;2053362095']I'd like to think that I'm able to at least have an idea where to start in trying to pick him out of a crowd.
But can you tell when he's speaking directly to you, and you to him? :smartass:
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:17
Vito;2053362143']Why Johnny more so than the others on the list?
And I notice you haven't voted yet.
You haven't noticed much, then.
Rocco;2053361718']I will survive! :beam: Vote: Johnny
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:19
Ah, whoops, I was going based off Nick's tally a few posts back.
But since you clearly avoided answering my first question, I'm assuming you're just screwing around now. G'night. :yes:
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:22
Vito;2053362149']Ah, whoops, I was going based off Nick's tally a few posts back.
But since you clearly avoided answering my first question, I'm assuming you're just screwing around now. G'night. :yes:
If you wish to be enlightened, I will happily oblige. Stick around for five minutes and I shall demonstrate.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:23
Nah, I can just always read it when I wake up.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:26
Vito;2053362013']Okay guys, don't vote for Nick. Nick, this includes you. Reenk may be a lot of things, but he is also a sportsman at heart. Reenk said here that he wasn't going to take over Nick:
...which means that we can basically strike Nick off the list. Reenk's smart enough to win without resorting to outright lying to us (and he knows it too) and a simple misdirection move like this would provide him no enjoyment. Basically, unless Reenk acts completely out-of-character I think we can safely cross Nick off the list and move onto other suspects.
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
I'm taking myself off the list; believe me if you want to or not. I'm also taking Rocco/Pizza off the list, who I'm about 99% sure isn't Reenk due to posting style.
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
Luciano's been speaking Italian the entire game, and I think Vinny is khaan (unless Emilio was) because neither of them have posted much.
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Johnny
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
Shot in the dark here, but I think it's one of these five.
Vote: Sonny
In this analysis, you were almost completely correct. And so, Reenk himself congratulated you on your insight.
Johnny;2053362090']vote: Vito
You seem to understand this Reenk fellow well. A little too well. Granted, we have been stuck in this frozen prison of a labor camp for days now. I know I've gotten a little closer with some of my fellow men than I'd ever admit to anyone back home... Regardless, you seem fishy. And you're one of the few people who have yet to start brushing your teeth after I complained about everyone's breath smelling like coffee. *points Toothbrush of Suspicion at Vito*
He's telling you that you know him only too well.
He's telling you that he's "gotten closer" to his fellow men more than he would care to admit. As in, inside of them.
Then, he smirks at you verbally with a witty comment about you needing to brush your teeth.
It is the same bravado you would expect from Reenk, hiding directly under your nose, General Kleenex.
Vito;2053362095']Johnny: I have been playing Mafia games with Reenk for roughly five years now and have moderated the Gameroom for the past two where it is my job to read every single solitary post made to make sure rules are being followed. Add that with the fact that Reenk is one of the more unique personalities I have ever come across, not just on this forum or on the internet, but most unique, period, and yeah, I'd like to think that I'm able to at least have an idea where to start in trying to pick him out of a crowd.
That is why this quote is absolutely hilarious.
Now, follow MY Reentuition and my Pizzanalysis, and destroy the THING that is Reenk Roink. Or I will laugh at you from the grave.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:27
Vito;2053362151']Nah, I can just always read it when I wake up.
When you do, the round will have ended.
Congratulations, we let him escape again. I blame you. :wiseguy:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-20-2011, 10:27
Rocco;2053362133']Understanding Reenk is a worthy endeavor, a feat many have attempted; a feat almost all have yet to master. But to pretend to understand Reenk is the height of arrogance. Men with relatively remarkable intellects strive toward this Understanding, struggling in vain to comprehend his Points, achieving little in the process. It is not the meager achievement but the struggle which interests me the most, for life itself is a continual struggle towards Comprehension; to Know, to Understand, and to realize what can and cannot be Known. If Man could begin to fathom the limits of his own Comprehension, then he would truly begin to Understand.
The first and greatest Endeavor is to know thyself. Only a fool would suggest that he grasps the complexities of another when he cannot begin to understand why he does what he does. If Man does not know himself, then he cannot completely trust his judgment on others. To Presume that another is "Scummy" or "Innocent" based on his own judgments is to Presume Man can trust his own judgment; if that premise is flawed, then inexorably what follows is that Man is blinded by his own ignorance of himself. Man accepts as a matter of Faith that his judgment is trustworthy, and through that Faith he may begin to Achieve. But regardless of positive accomplishments (or indeed, negative ones) he cannot full credit himself; he is only a bit player in his own destiny. At the very edges of his consciousness the fog of the Unknown permeates everything. Man believes that he is at the center of the Known and that he is peering out into the Unknown, but in truth, his very being resides within the Unknown, because he does not know himself fully. As such, it is the Unknown which drives him forward, compelled by his Faith in his own limited Knowledge and the illusory concept of Choice, towards his ultimate fate.
This Point forms the root of self-knowledge; knowing that you do not know yourself. Man only begins his journey towards Understanding when his perspective changes, and he does not consider himself at the center of what is Known, and accepts that the greatest factor in his sentience is the Unknown. Then he can begin to consider Moods, biases, flawed logic, and begin to Understand what drives his own Intuition; better grasping the Unknown Factors which dominate his consciousness allow a more self-aware individual to flourish. As such, this individual will be better prepared to understand and to judge the factors in others which drive their own consciousness; their moods, their biases, their very intuition. Each person will have similar Factors and different Factors from another person, but patterns begin to emerge. From those patterns, true behavioral analysis can be attempted. Analytical Men can then perhaps put their energies toward a better and higher purpose. Until such time, however, Man must rely on his flawed intuition, and submit to the chaotic unknown that resides within his own Understanding.
When you were getting closer to these men, did you get to know them on a deeper level? Were their feeble bodies mere sacks of moist flesh for you to inhabit? Or, perhaps, were you experimenting with a new kind of intimacy, diving deep into the mysterious Unknown of your own sexuality?
This style is very similar to the Thing's in the write-ups.
Unvote; Vote: Rocco
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:28
Just a reminder why your inaction dooms the town.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:29
Actually wait, upon a quick reread I know who Silvio is.
Unvote: Silvio
Vote: Johnny
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:29
Frank;2053362154']This style is very similar to the Thing's in the write-ups.
Unvote; Vote: Rocco
Thanks, but it's actually a rather bad knock-off. I think Reenk would be insulted by the comparison, actually.
That's okay though, since you've failed to listen to me, I am now rooting for Reenk to destroy you all. I hope he wins.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:30
Vito;2053362156']Actually wait, upon a quick reread I know who Silvio is.
Unvote: Silvio
Vote: Johnny
:bow: courteously.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:31
Unless Reenk's doing a very good imitation, of course, which we can never rule out. But let's let the chips fall where they may.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:34
Vito;2053362159']Unless Reenk's doing a very good imitation, of course, which we can never rule out. But let's let the chips fall where they may.
You could always ask me any darned thing about Askthepizzaguy, and I would answer flawlessly.
But that would be too easy. Give Reenk a fighting chance now. Let's be sporting about it, like he's been.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-20-2011, 10:35
What I don't get is how the doppleganger could take place, without being blatantly obvious from the write-up.
Your arguments are good, but you think Johnny was taken over, how?
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:37
Rocco/Pizza: Not sure I understand what you're saying. Do you want an unvote?
Frank: From the OP:
The Thing (mafioso): (1)
The bad guy. The mafioso gets one kill per night, however the mafioso will have two options on how to kill:
Option 1: Normal Kill. The mafioso kills a person and they die. Dead player's account is unlinked to their Anonymous account.
Option 2: Doppleganger Kill. The mafioso kills a person, but takes their form. The dead player is unlinked from their Anonymous account, while the mafioso takes control of the dead player's Anonymous account and uses it as his own. The mafioso's old Anonymous account shows up as dead.
The town will not know which option was used. The night write-up will narrate a kill, but the identity of the person who died will not be part of the narration. Instead, at the end a body will be found. The townies will not know whether the body is from a new victim, or The Thing's old (now discarded) doppleganger body. The mafia have some say in how much/little they put in their kill descriptions. It is up to the town to figure out how much is their work and how much is mine.
Emphasis mine.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:37
Frank;2053362163']What I don't get is how the doppleganger could take place, without being blatantly obvious from the write-up.
Your arguments are good, but you think Johnny was taken over, how?
I haven't actually read the book or seen the movie, so I don't know the process of taking over someone's body. That's not what concerns me.
I'm just interested in either catching Reenk myself, or watching him have the time of his life. Either will satisfy me, really. I don't care if you let him go. It would be fun to try to catch him again.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-20-2011, 10:38
Oh, I see, missed that XD
Unvote; Vote: Johnny
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 10:38
You want to let him go, that's your prerogative. Your vote's on him too. As for me, I'm going to sleep for real this time. :laugh4:
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:39
Vito;2053362164']Rocco/Pizza: Not sure I understand what you're saying. Do you want an unvote?
No I'd rather you kill Johnny/Reenk. But honestly, if you prefer to keep playing the game, I'll understand. This is fun.
But keep your vote on Reenk for now.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:39
Frank;2053362166']Oh, I see, missed that XD
Unvote; Vote: Johnny
:bow: courteously
[MAFIA] Luigi
08-20-2011, 10:40
After much investigating, to include post times, verb usage and rectal temperture, I have determined to
Vote: Johnny
[MAFIA] Frank
08-20-2011, 10:41
I'm just trying to get people's reactions, yours seems townie-like.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 10:45
Frank;2053362171']I'm just trying to get people's reactions, yours seems townie-like.
Can you truly trust your own judgment, though? :wink:
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-20-2011, 11:47
vote:Vito
Tally:
Johnny: 5 (Rocco, Sonny, Vito, Frank, Luigi)
Vito: 2 (Johnny, Luciano)
Not Voting: 3 (Nick, Silvio, Vinny)
I may be a bit busy when the timer ends, but should be ready to close it by 10:30 or 11:00am at the latest. For my own amusement, voting will remain open until I specifically post that it is closed in the thread.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 14:36
:stupido:
I would imagine that "Johnny Reenk" may have some kind of trump card to play if he's cornered. You know, being an inhuman monster and all. :yes: Perhaps he can escape from close votes. Recommend the full wagon treatment.
All aboard the bandwagon!
It couldn't hurt at this point, but there's an outside chance it may help.
"Alrighty! Mr. Thing, come on down!" Kage looked at the assembled crowd, expectantly. No one moved. "No? Anyone? Mr. Thing, where are you?" Several henchmen pointed at Johnny.
Kage's face brightened. "Mr. Thing! A pleasure to meet you." He bowed low.
"Uh, I'm me," said Johnny. "I'm not an alien."
"Of course you aren't, Mr. Thing," nodded Kage. "You're our most dearly respected guest." The evil overlord began pacing. "I'll admit I'm a bit disappointed you were caught this easily. You know, you cannot be a true partner for us if you cannot even fool a handful of n00b henchmen." Kage looked at Johnny. "I expected better of you. You may possess Ultranox Discombobulators, but clearly you do not have what it takes to infiltrate the enemy, sow chaos, and make them tear themselves apart. These are the true weapons of a mafioso."
"But, I'm not the Thing..." complained Johnny.
"If you are, then you are not worthy," said Kage, "and I am pleased to dispose of you. If you are not, then Mr. Thing is doing quite well and we are a step closer to obtaining a most excellent partner." CR did some air guitar. Kage pulled out a gun and aimed it Johnny's head.
"But, I" started Johnny. Before he could get any further, there was a loud bang and his body crumpled to the floor.
Kage peered at the corpse suspiciously for several moment. "Hmmm... that doesn't seem like a dead alien to me, what do you think Mr. Rabbit?" CR looked at Johnny's body. "Just looks like short, dead henchdude."
"Excellent!" Kage grinned, and did some air guitar. CR joined in.
"Alright, nothing left to see here," said Kage. "Get back to work. Remember, by morning we want the Room With The Giant TV Screen and Waterpark."
Johnny: 5 (Rocco, Sonny, Vito, Frank, Luigi)
Vito: 2 (Johnny, Luciano)
Not Voting: 3 (Nick, Silvio, Vinny)
Night 5 will end in:
Alive: (9/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Silvio
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Johnny (D4)
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 15:32
Well, so much for that idea.
*crumples up paper, tosses it away*
At least we get to watch Reenk have some more fun.
BAH!
[MAFIA] Nick
08-20-2011, 16:19
From what darkness does this failure come? If only we could perceive that which has come before; then, and only then would we understand.
Further, I fear Reenk has become a self-moving soul. :shame: Rocco-guy, do you betray us? This must be the terrible Truth of the Reenk: he makes us love!
Bah! There must be a way! This place must have secrets! EVERYTHING OLD HAS SECRETS...
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 17:32
It could be the old "leave 'em in suspense for a night because I can" trick. :yes:
[MAFIA] Silvio
08-20-2011, 18:54
Don't hold your breath on that GH.
~:grouphug:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-20-2011, 19:05
Group hug = communism, thus Reenk = Body Snatcher?
[MAFIA] Frank
08-20-2011, 19:34
Nick;2053362339']Group hug = communism, thus Reenk = Body Snatcher?
LOOOL
As for the lynches, either we are extremely unlucky, the thing has special powers, or it's cleverly managing to pilot our votes XD
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-20-2011, 20:15
Silvio;2053362337']Don't hold your breath on that GH.
~:grouphug:
Not posting at all in a round?
Reenk!!!!!!!
Honestly, I never thought you'd stoop so low. :rolleyes: <---You deserve this! :stare:
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 23:33
Nicely done. This time. :bow:
Fairly certain Silvio used to be Blackadder. Guess it doesn't help a reread when you have no new data to go off of. Now we're probably going to see his corpse.
[MAFIA] Silvio
08-20-2011, 23:45
Rocco;2053362351']Not posting at all in a round?
Reenk!!!!!!!
Honestly, I never thought you'd stoop so low. :rolleyes: <---You deserve this! :stare:
Lurking is awesome, even more improved with the flexibility granted as The Thing. :smug: Plus the town isn't even bothering to go after lurkers. If this was my second game as The Thing I would probably lurk more. But alas I have many things to try.
By the way, it's Reenktuition. :wink: If you had the 'k' you would have gotten me, but Reentuition...
Vito;2053362423']Nicely done. This time. :bow:
Fairly certain Silvio used to be Blackadder. Guess it doesn't help a reread when you have no new data to go off of. Now we're probably going to see his corpse.
I posted as Silvio though, just not on Friday's round. But only you have proven yourself worth so far GH :bow:, lodging the one and only vote on me, albeit for only a few minutes before switching. :laugh4: And you finally spurred a good round of the game. Too bad I wasn't there to participate, but it turned out most excellent nonetheless.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 23:47
Yeah, Blackadder's one of the easier people to emulate, IMHO (no offense, mate). Mostly one-liners and then the trademark, which is the lack of a colon after the usual Vote[:] Whoever posts.
And the lack of a K in Reenktuition was one of the factors that tipped me off that Pizza wasn't Reenk. :laugh4: Didn't want to say anything though, because it made it easier for me to distinguish who was who. Thanks for making it out in the open, jerk. :tongue:
[MAFIA] Silvio
08-20-2011, 23:53
But I couldn't take seeing the wrong word over and over again. The only good part was that it was accompanied by a case on the wrong guy that Atpg was as certain of as Nick on Emilio. It bothered me as much as 'wenax'. :laugh4: Last round was almost as good as the Emilio debacle (I'll hold off on saying what it is just in case, but it's hilarious, and you guys can't blame Nick for it :beam:).
[MAFIA] Nick
08-20-2011, 23:55
How did you escape Emilio, Reenk? There will be a Reckoning at the closing of this path, so you might as well reveal it. I MUST KNOW WHAT YOU SEE. TELL ME.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-20-2011, 23:56
We'll still get you yet. The purpose of most early and midgames in the more vanilla contests is to set up for the endgame anyway, why would this one be any different?
I look forward to continuing the hunt. :bow:
[MAFIA] Silvio
08-21-2011, 00:12
Nick;2053362427']How did you escape Emilio, Reenk? There will be a Reckoning at the closing of this path, so you might as well reveal it. I MUST KNOW WHAT YOU SEE. TELL ME.
You tell your part of the story, and then I'll fill in the rest. :bow:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-21-2011, 00:31
Silvio"]Vote Emilio
But I would like to know why you can't reveal the evidence right now if it is so good?
Oh, you - very well.
Please, Tincow. It will affect nothing but my pride.
I got these from Emilio a couple of days ago. The first: on the night of the 16th. The next two: immediately after Emilio's lynch. The last in the afternoon. Finally, you understand.
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/1-2.jpg
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/2-1.jpg
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/3-1.jpg
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/4.jpg
[MAFIA] Silvio
08-21-2011, 00:38
:laugh4: so good :2thumbsup:
Never, ever, rule out how people will act in any situation. :laugh4: TinCow, you must add a Emilio role to future games. :yes:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-21-2011, 01:14
Hard to believe that the original Emilio could have PMed me after the lycnh. :inquisitive: I see through your tricks...
My brothers, how can we follow the Shortest Path to victory? Our only certainty is certainty in doubt. :shame: :cry:
upon the high wall the townies slept,
while 'round the hearth their lurkers wept,
and fugitives murmured tales of woe,
of greater games lost to Reenk-a-Ro...
—"THE REFUGEE'S SONG,"
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-21-2011, 08:26
Meh. It was still fun pretending to be Reenk. You really have to stretch your brain into all kinds of pretzel shapes.
Two henchmen were working The Big Board while behind them, in the distance, the sound of running water and splashing could be heard. One of the Board workers was getting annoyed. "Why do they get to play in the waterpark while we're stuck here doing all this wiring?"
The other henchman shrugged, "It matters not, at the rate we're going we'll all be dead within a few more days. This situation really needs to be taken more seriously."
"Oh, thanks Sherlock," scowled the first henchman. "I don't exactly see you spouting of fabulous revelations about who's body the alien is in right now. How can you expect the rest of us to do better?"
The second henchman raised an eyebrow. "Such reasoning as this for Demonstration, nothing but the obscurity of the Subject could have encouraged or induced the great Author of the Behavioralist Method to put upon his Followers, and nothing but an implicit deference to Authority could move them to admit. If a Man by Methods, not logical or demonstrative, shall have satisfied himself of the usefulness of certain Rules; which he afterwards shall propose to his Disciples for undoubted Truths; which he undertakes to demonstrate in a subtile manner, and by the help of nice and intricate Notions; it is not hard to conceive that such his Disciples may, to save themselves the trouble of thinking, be inclined to confound the usefulness of a Rule with the certainty of a Truth, and accept the one for the other; especially if they are Men accustomed rather to compute than to think; earnest rather to go on fast and far, than solicitous to set out warily and see their way distinctly."
"What in the nine hells is that supposed to mean?" said the first henchman. "Are you even speaking English? Who talks like that?"
"Diction and language are fundamental parts of the coursework at the University of Maximegalon." The second henchman frowned, "it's not my fault that this planet has only evolved one species with higher intelligence. Once the apes get uplifted, I'm sure you'll take intellectual achievement a bit more seriously."
The first henchman furrowed his brow, "What are you talking about, you're from Jersey... You..." The man had a moment of clarity and the color drained from his face.
"Oh, yes, this face." The second henchman poked himself in the eye, and his face shifted to resemble Elvis. "Really, this whole masquerade is getting a bit tiring. Pleased to meet you, I am Wachugi Aozu Nhelhaqelh Ahizolo Xthuwi. May I be frank about how you fellows are doing?"
The henchman nodded warily at Wachugi, while his eyes darted back and forth looking for an escape. He was in a corner of the room though, and the only way out was past the alien. "We're... we're trying..."
Wachugi gave a small laugh. "And yet it should seem that, whatever errors are admitted in the Premises, proportional errors ought to be apprehended in the Conclusion, be they finite or infinitesimal: and that therefore the ἀκρίβεια of Behavioral Analysis requires nothing should be neglected or rejected. In answer to this you will perhaps say, that the Conclusions are accurately true, and that therefore the Principles and Methods from whence they are derived must be so too. But this inverted way of demonstrating your Principles by your Conclusions, as it would be peculiar to you Gentlemen, so it is contrary to the Rules of Logic. The truth of the Conclusion will not prove either the Form or the Matter of a Syllogism to be true: inasmuch as the Illation might have been wrong or the Premises false, and the Conclusion nevertheless true, though not in virtue of such Illation or of such Premises. I say that in every other Science Men prove their Conclusions by their Principles, and not their Principles by the Conclusions. But if in yours you should allow your selves this unnatural way of proceeding, the Consequence would be that you must take up with Induction, and bid adieu to Demonstration. And if you submit to this, your Authority will no longer lead the way in Points of Reason and Science."
"I have no Controversy about your Conclusions, but only about your Logic and Method. How you demonstrate? What Objects you are conversant with, and whether you conceive them clearly? What Principles you proceed upon; how sound they may be; and how you apply them? It must be remembred that I am not concerned about the truth of your Theorems, but only about the way of coming at them; whether it be legitimate or illegitimate, clear or obscure, scientific or tentative. To prevent all possibility of your mistaking me, I beg leave to repeat and insist, that I consider the Behavioral Analyst as a Logician, i. e. so far forth as he reasons and argues; and his Conclusions, not in themselves, but in their Premises; not as true or false, useful or insignificant, but as derived from such Principles, and by such Inferences. And forasmuch as it may perhaps seem an unaccountable Paradox, that Behavioralists should deduce true Propositions from false Principles, be right in the Conclusion, and yet err in the Premises; I shall endeavour particularly to explain why this may come to pass, and shew how Error may bring forth Truth, though it cannot bring forth Science."
"So then it must be remembred, that in such Case although you may pass for an Artist, Computist, or Analyst, yet you may not be justly esteemed a Man of Science and Demonstration. Nor should any Man, in virtue of being conversant in such obscure Analytics, imagine his rational Faculties to be more improved than those of other Men, which have been exercised in a different manner, and on different Subjects; much less erect himself into a Judge and an Oracle, concerning Matters that have no sort of connexion with, or dependence on those Species, Symbols or Signs, in the Management whereof he is so conversant and expert. As you, who are a skilful Computist or Analyst, may not therefore be deemed skilful in Anatomy: or vice versa, as a Man who can dissect with Art, may, nevertheless, be ignorant in your Art of Analysis: even so you may both, notwithstanding your peculiar Skill in your respective Arts, be alike unqualified to decide upon Logic, or Metaphysics, or Ethics, or Intution. And this would be true, even admitting that you understood your own Principles and could demonstrate them, which you clearly cannot claim to have done so. "
The henchman sprang forward and tried to run for it, but the alien was too fast. Seven hands gripped the man's legs, arms, and neck. "That was rude," said Wachugi. "Shall I show you how we treat rudeness at Maximegalon?"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!" CR came gliding down the waterslide and landed with a loud splash in the central pool. He did a lazy backstroke while admiring The Big Board, its current display showing a map of the world with major cities highlighted for easy identification. "Not bad," he said to the assembled henchmen, "but does it get ESPN?"
Kage flipped the channel to a cricket match. CR cringed, "Please excuse my partners behavior, all the killings have made him slightly eccentric over the years. I have a theory that all cricket fans are actually mass murderers. In any case, looks like it's that time of the day again!" CR pulled himself up onto an inflatable raft and started sipping from the fruity cocktail that was stuffed in a nearby inflatable drink holder.
Kage turned around to look at the assembled crew. He opened a bag and pulled out a large sheet of bloody skin. It looked vaguely like Silvio's face. "As you can see, we still have a small problem here. We expect you to resolve it very soon, as your reduced numbers will start impacting the construction schedule. We really do not want to have to order more henchmen, it would make us very unhappy."
"Can we get a few more chicks next time?" asked CR.
Day 5 will end in:
Alive: (8/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Luigi
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
[MAFIA] Silvio (N5)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Johnny (D4)
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-21-2011, 15:46
Vote: Luigi
Reenktuition dictates it. :wink:
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-21-2011, 15:55
O è o Nick Vinny. Entrambi non hanno votato l'ultimo round quindi dovremmo cercare di lurkers Lynch. Quindi, da un lancio della moneta ho scelto di linciare, Nick.
Vote:Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-21-2011, 16:24
Luciano;2053362588']O è o Nick Vinny. Entrambi non hanno votato l'ultimo round quindi dovremmo cercare di lurkers Lynch. Quindi, da un lancio della moneta ho scelto di linciare, Nick.
Vote:Nick
Lynching lurkers is fine, but Nick can hardly be considered as such, in terms of both post frequency and content. His abstentions and poetry notwithstanding, the fellow has been trying, which isn't something you can say about everyone.
I'm not sure I agree with GH on the point that Reenk wouldn't take over Nick, but the General was surely correct that we have to set up for the endgame. And what better way to do so than denying Reenk the chance to lurk? It will not only make it easier to find him, but it will also be more entertaining for all of us.
:2thumbsup:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-21-2011, 17:08
Agreed about lurkers, but Nick imo isn't one.
Vote: Vinny
[MAFIA] Nick
08-21-2011, 17:43
Curse you, Reenk! Do you feel so assured of victory that you will freely disparage us as unprincipled? This is a manifest injustice, for how could we possibly deduce and grasp these Formulae from Intuition, which has so often failed us before? We cannot and will not realise the Principles of Behavioralism. We are the Blind groping in the dark. Reenk, your Path is narrow, to be certain, but it is very clear. You cultivate our awe and our inklings, telling us things no man could know. You appeal to the spark of Logos within us. You map the Logic of our commitments, show us the implications of the Tenets we already hold. You show us Beliefs fixed by Truth rather than function. You make our fears and weaknesses plain—you show us who we are—even as you exploit those weaknesses to your advantage. :shame:
My Brothers, the end of it approaches. Perhaps some of you are conversant of the Analytics of Mafia, but Reenk derives his Power from Analytics of Men. Our only hope was to apprehend the Logos, the Proposition, That Which Comes Before Determines What Comes After, and with it to follow the Shortest Path to triumph. Alas, there can be no Truth for us, the worldborn. We travel ever in spirals, towards our inevitable Doom.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-21-2011, 19:00
Rocco;2053362590']Lynching lurkers is fine, but Nick can hardly be considered as such, in terms of both post frequency and content. His abstentions and poetry notwithstanding, the fellow has been trying, which isn't something you can say about everyone.
I'm not sure I agree with GH on the point that Reenk wouldn't take over Nick, but the General was surely correct that we have to set up for the endgame. And what better way to do so than denying Reenk the chance to lurk? It will not only make it easier to find him, but it will also be more entertaining for all of us.
:2thumbsup:Concordato. Stavo dalla lista che l'host fornito con l'ultima votazione, quindi stavo per avere un tirare a sorte fra tre persone, prima di Sivlio è stato ucciso.
unvote; vote:Vinny.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-21-2011, 19:30
Two things:
One, in terms of what Reenk would or wouldn't do, my list from the previous round is now utterly obsolete, with the main reason being because Reenk will purposely look at it, see who I've crossed off, and take one of those people I've crossed off in order to stick it to us and keep having fun.
Two, I very much believe that Vinny is khaan (compare Vinny's inactivity in this game with khaan's delays in the Netherworld writeups recently). Does this mean that Vinny is still khaan? Absolutely not, but for now I'm going to pick an alternative lynch target, another inactive.
Vote: Luigi
While active, he's been giving us very little to go on anyway.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-21-2011, 19:45
I think its someone else, so it's probably not whomever I suspect.
Vote: Luigi
But, what if Reenk has changed his strategy from lurking to hiding in plain sight, through one of the big names? :creep:
[MAFIA] Vito
08-21-2011, 19:46
That's entirely possible, but right now it's more advantageous of us to get rid of a lurker. Later on, if Reenk is hiding in plain sight, we have a better chance of getting him due to good analysis.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-21-2011, 19:48
Basically, to sum this up, I couldn't give two hoots about whether or not the person we lynch today is actually Reenk or not (if it's Reenk it's just a bonus) so long as it sets ourselves up well for the endgame.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-21-2011, 20:44
Luigi's posting style suits itself to Reenk far more than Vinny's. Most importantly, it gives him an opportunity to actually post, unlike Vinny.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-21-2011, 20:45
Vito;2053362646']Later on, if Reenk is hiding in plain sight, we have a better chance of getting him due to good analysis.
That's what Reenk would like you to think. :wink:
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-21-2011, 20:58
Nick;2053362644']But, what if Reenk has changed his strategy from lurking to hiding in plain sight, through one of the big names? :creep:
Certainly. You must decide whether or not Reenk would continue to lurk, or if he would shift his behavior and imitate, say, Askthepizzaguy. :wink:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-22-2011, 02:40
What is 2 + 2, Rocco? You have 10 minutes.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-22-2011, 02:59
Pizza posted in the Gameroom 9:51. The deadline was 9:50. Rocco missed the deadline. Ergo, Rocco is not Pizza OR Pizza has abandoned us to our deaths.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-22-2011, 05:07
Vito? Anyone? :sweatdrop:
[MAFIA] Vito
08-22-2011, 05:09
Here.
I don't think it's as bad as you think; last time there was a tie IIRC TinCow chose randomly. Actually I'm quite happy with how that one turned out - I was the lynch candidate that survived.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-22-2011, 05:15
What? How does that address my concerns? I asked Rocco to post when Pizza was active in the Gameroom. I gave him ten minutes. 11 minutes later, Pizza posted in another Gameroom thread. Rocco has not posted. Well?
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-22-2011, 05:34
I didn't want to respond initially, but since you are continuing to advance the point, your concerns weren't addressed because, as a matter of principle, all Org staff intentionally avoid looking at the online list and viewing profiles in connection to mafia games. It's a code of honor thing. Your little request may not fall under the letter of that code, but it falls under the spirit I'm afraid.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-22-2011, 05:40
Well, that's embarrassing. Then I rescind and apologize.
[MAFIA] Rocco
08-22-2011, 05:48
No problem. :bow: Given that Org staff can not only see invisible mode users, but we can also see exactly who somebody is private messaging, it would be trivial to cheat the system in a game like this. Which is where the honor code comes in.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-22-2011, 07:34
Yeah, for instance I can see through Reenk's invisible mode, which would make it pretty easy to determine who he is based on "last active" times and the like, but I've been purposely avoiding it (as GH anyway, Vito's analysis is fair game for the people that don't have invisible mode turned on :evilgrin:).
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-22-2011, 13:34
啊,热烈的天气真令人很懒惰。
Vote: Luigi
I concur that lynching lurkers will make it easier to decide in the end game.
Tally:
Luigi: 4 (Rocco, Vito, Nick, Sonny)
Vinny: 2 (Frank, Luciano)
Not Voting: 2 (Luigi, Vinny)
Please note that I am very busy this morning and will not have time to do a proper write-up. The phase will end on time though, and I will do my best to fill it in with a full write-up later.
Luigi has been lynched. As noted earlier, I will try and do a proper write-up for this later today.
Luigi: 4 (Rocco, Vito, Nick, Sonny)
Vinny: 2 (Frank, Luciano)
Not Voting: 2 (Luigi, Vinny)
Night 6 will end in:
Alive: (7/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Rocco
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
[MAFIA] Silvio (N5)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Johnny (D4)
[MAFIA] Luigi (D5)
(Sorry, real life has been a bit hectic for me over the past couple days. I don't have time to go back and do a nice write-up for the last phase.)
With the most essential Evil Base facilities completed, the next phase of construction shifted over to providing more comfortable living quarters for the henchmen. The henchmen were very morose; installing beds and living facilities for over a hundred people only emphasized how their group had dwindled in size. There were now only seven remaining, and that increased the workload on each of them. The boredom of assembling flat pack furniture with Allen wrenches soon got to one pair of workers.
"What the :daisy: is this?" exclaimed one of the henchmen. "Mikea? Have we really performed so poorly that we only deserve a Chinese Ikea knock-off?"
He started in to a minor rant, expressing similar disgruntlements with the way CR and Kage were treating their crew. Eventually, the quieter henchman chimed in. "You know, perhaps we would all be sleeping on king-size Tempur-pedic mattresses tonight if we actually put some thought into this situation."
The complainer scowled at this comment. "Who are you to lecture me, dumb:daisy:? You're doing no better than anyone else. What do you know?"
The quieter henchman smiled pleasantly. "You may possibly hope to evade the Force of all that hath been said, and to screen false Principles and inconsistent Reasonings, by a general Pretence that these Objections and Remarks are Metaphysical. But this is a vain Pretence. For the plain Sense and Truth of what is advanced in the foregoing Remarks, I appeal to the Understanding of every unprejudiced intelligent Reader. To the same I appeal, whether the Points remarked upon are not most incomprehensible Metaphysics. And Metaphysics not of mine, but your own. I would not be understood to infer, that your Notions are false or vain because they are Metaphysical. Nothing is either true or false for that Reason. Whether a Point be called Metaphysical or no avails little. The Question is whether it be clear or obscure, right or wrong, well or ill-deduced?"
The lecturer put his Allen wrench down and started pacing around the room. "Although momentaneous behavioral deviations, nascent and evanescent scumminess, WIFOM of all Degrees, are in truth such shadowy Entities, so difficult to imagine or conceive distinctly, that (to say the least) they cannot be admitted as Principles or Objects of clear and accurate Science: and although this obscurity and incomprehensibility of your Metaphysics had been alone sufficient, to allay your Pretensions to Evidence; yet it hath, if I mistake not, been further shewn, that your Inferences are no more just than your Conceptions are clear, and that your Logics are as exceptionable as your Metaphysics. It should seem therefore upon the whole, that your Conclusions are not attained by just Reasoning from clear Principles; consequently that the Employment of modern Analysts, however useful in idealized and unrealizable Constructions, doth not habituate and qualify the Mind to apprehend clearly and infer justly; and consequently, that you have no right in Virtue of such Habits, to dictate out of your proper Sphere, beyond which your Judgment is to pass for no more than that of other Men."
By this point, the other henchman had stopped all of his work and was just glancing warily at his partner. The speech continued. "Of a long Time I have suspected, that these behavioral Analytics were not scientifical, and gave some Hints thereof to the Public about five Years ago. Since which time, I have been diverted by other Occupations, and imagined I might employ my self better than in deducing and laying together my Thoughts on so nice a Subject. And though of late I have been called upon to make good my Suggestions; yet, as the Person, who made this Call, doth not appear to think maturely enough to understand, either those Metaphysics which he would refute, or Analytics which he would patronize, I should have spared my self the trouble of writing for his Conviction. Nor should I now have troubled you or my self with this Address, after so long an Intermission of these Studies; were it not to prevent, so far as I am able, your imposing on your self and others in Matters of much higher Moment and Concern. And to the end that you may more clearly comprehend the Force and Design of the foregoing Remarks, and pursue them still further in your own Meditations, I shall subjoin the following action..."
At this point, the lecturer stopped dead in his tracks and stood stock still in the middle of the room. The complainer watched for about 30 seconds, but the lecturer was frozen like stone. Eventually the complainer got up and approached his static colleague. He look closely at the man's face, but everything looked normal. As he started to circle his statuesque co-worker, he noticed something odd and looked more closely. There was a second mouth on the man's posterior. It smiled and said, "Boo!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The henchmen were all sleeping in their newly assembled bunks when Kage and CR walked into the room, banging on trashcan lids with truncheons. "Alright you maggots! Time to rise and shine! It's another fine day here in beautiful Antarctica, and we're going to practice a little discipline here today."
Kage tossed something on the ground in the middle of the barracks. It was a bloody fedora, which everyone recognized as belonging to Rocco.
CR began pacing up and down in front of the bunks. "Today, you will learn to kill. So far, you have all been cowardly victims, letting yourselves get eaten by our friend, Mr. Thing, each and every single night. So far, you have failed to apprehend him, and now time is running short." CR pointed his truncheon at each of the remaining henchmen in turn. "Today, you will find your enemy and you will kill him. You will tear him apart with your bare hands and stomp on the remains until it is goo! Failure to do this..." he gestured at Kage, who was picking his teeth with a foot long combat knife, "will be punished."
"So..." grinned CR. "Who shall die today?"
Day 6 will end in:
Alive: (6/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
[MAFIA] Silvio (N5)
[MAFIA] Rocco (N6)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Johnny (D4)
[MAFIA] Luigi (D5)
[MAFIA] Vito
08-23-2011, 16:29
Crap, Rocco was actually my suspect for today.
Don't have much time to be online/do analysis right now, I'll try to get on in 12 hours or so. In the meantime,
Vote: Frank
[MAFIA] Vito
08-23-2011, 16:31
Also Reenk, if you turned out to be Rocco last round, I'm going to kick myself.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-23-2011, 16:55
I told yall knuckleheads. :smirk:
I just hope I get a nice writeup when I'm replaced, given the time I spent constructing all those comments. :bow:
Vote; FRank
[MAFIA] Nick
08-23-2011, 16:56
Whoops.
Vote: Frank
[MAFIA] Frank
08-23-2011, 17:22
I'll stick to the lurkers vote.
Vote: Vinny
Anyway what happened to the poetry Nick?
[MAFIA] Nick
08-23-2011, 18:03
I decided to branch out into literary references, but when no one remarked upon them, I decided to speak only when:
a. I find something particularly striking
b. I am directly prompted.
Yeah, watch me Superman these couplets, Frank.
Yeah oh yeah, Soulja Boi, that hoe I'll crank.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-23-2011, 21:56
Unvote: Frank
Yeah, you know what?
Day 6: 6 players
Day 7: 4 players
Day 8: 2 players NO VOTE
That's two lynches left to us. But if we abstain for today:
Day 6: 6 players
Day 7: 5 players
Day 8: 3 players
VICTORY?
See, if there's one less person to vote for per round, rooting Reenk out will be that much easier.
Come on, please? Besides, a 3-man showdown would be more fun. Hey?
Don't I have some credibility points to spend here? I mean, I told you about Rocco, bro. I told you dog!
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/bro.jpg
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/533yt35.jpg
It is not possible to avoid a lynch. In the event of a tie, random.org will choose who dies. If no one votes for anyone, then all players are tied and will be included in the random.org list.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-23-2011, 22:09
Always, my theatrics are wasted. I hope Day 8 eill be resolved satisfactorily. :/
Vote: Frank
[MAFIA] Frank
08-23-2011, 22:16
I like the images XD
Reminds me of "I am weasel" lol
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 04:19
Right, went back and did a reread. I no longer think it's Frank. If it is, then Reenk's pulling off a damn good fake and my hat's off to him.
Unvote: Frank
Vote: Luciano
DiY's timezone is radically different from Reenk's where I don't think he'd try to pull it off. This leaves Vinny and Luciano, and I still think Vinny is khaan unless Reenk pulled the switch last night.
Considering that right now I'm the only vote on Luciano, if there's not a switch to him by the time I go to bed, I'll most likely move my vote to Vinny.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 04:36
Notice that the other 3 guys are not voting, even though there are only 10.5 hours left in the phase. COME ON, YOU NIHILISTS
At least Luciano deigns to vote (usually). Vinny has not posted since the beginning. Convince me he isn't a liability.
Unvote, Vote: Vinny
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 04:43
I'm actually speaking to khaan on Steam right now, but as per the game rules I can't mention this game to him. I think he's just forgot about it.
Unvote: Luciano
Vote: Vinny
While I still think it's Luciano (IF IT'S YOU REENK AND YOU MAKE FUN OF ME AGAIN FOR TAKING MY VOTE OFF YOU FOR FIVE MINUTES I WILL BAN YOU FROM THE GAMEROOM) I see your point. Worst-case scenario, we get to a three-man endgame with Vinny and it's up to TinCow's 50-50 resolution to decide the game.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 04:47
well, remember that technically it's a four-man endgame. But anyway, I've taken a look at Luciano's behavior, and I'll check in at the last hour to analyze anything he posts - if he posts. If it does turn out to be Luciano and I let him slip through, then we'll call it even I guess.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 04:50
Alright, sounds good. There's a slight chance I may be awake when the round ends, but probably not.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-24-2011, 05:05
Dobbiamo sbarazzarci di lurkers. vote:Vinny. Perché non è il suo nome Vincenzo? Questo è un nome proprio Italiano non, Vinny.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 05:25
That's strange, Lucy, your pattern is contrarianism, except for the Emilio boondoggle, for which you csn be restrospectively confirmed innocent. I would have expected you to go for Frank or something.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 10:50
If only we managed an abstain lynch, we could have had an odd number of people, with a tiebreaker town vote.
This is going to be funny though :P
Also as long as the four of us are alive, I hope we'll see changes in behaviour, with Vinny or Sonny I wouldn't know where to turn.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 14:46
Yep, I don't feel confident enough to switch. Figger that neither one is it.
"So, who is the lucky winner today?" asked Kage.
Most of the remaining henchmen pointed at Vinny. Kage squinted at him, then looked back at the rest of the group. "Really? That one?" The henchmen glanced at Vinny. He was seemingly obsessed with smelling his own hand and was entirely oblivious to the entire discussion. "Doesn't look very much like some kind of incredibly devious and intelligent alien from another galaxy, but what do I know?"
CR cracked his knuckles. "Alright, you lily-liver losers. Let's see if you've got it in you to beat a man to death with your bare fists. This will be useful training for when those government agencies paradrop their elite forces into this base." He nodded towards Vinny. "Make with the nastiness."
The other five henchmen looked at one another. Four of them looked a bit unsettled, but one of them smiled broadly, stepped forward, and kicked Vinny in the nuts. The man collapsed in a heap on the ground. The other henchmen stepped forward and began pounding on him. After several minutes, Vinny had been reduced to a pile of tenderized meat.
"Well done, gentlemen!" said Kage. "Amazing how easy it is to kill transmogrifying alien. I would have expected some kind of epic battle with tentacles and spider heads and whatnot. Ah, well," he sighed, "I suppose things don't always live up to our expectations."
CR smiled at the remaining five men. "Looks like we're almost done here! Tonight should be the final phase of construction before we're ready to begin operational activities. The last thing we will need completed is the combination Snack Bar and Secret Agent Torture Room. The man who comes up with the most interesting kitchen-related torture mechanism will win a free weekend trip to Hartford, Connecticut."
Vinny: 4 (Frank, Nick, Vito, Luciano)
Not Voting: 2 (Sonny, Vinny)
Night 7 will end in:
Alive: (5/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Sonny
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
[MAFIA] Silvio (N5)
[MAFIA] Rocco (N6)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Johnny (D4)
[MAFIA] Luigi (D5)
[MAFIA] Vinny (D6)
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-24-2011, 15:28
Ho basato la mia recente strategia su come liberarsi di lurkers basato sul gioco precedente anonima, quindi non si può criticare me per fare una strategia che avrebbe dovuto essere utilizzato il gioco precedente anonima per ottenere la vittoria. Così fuori l'possters che bruciacchiato in su, come si fa a ragazzi che io sia? Fino ad oggi "La Cosa" ci ha sfuggito.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 15:37
Yeah, so far the Thing had a very easy life.
With so few people left, only thing to do is to look out for different behaviour or apathy.
Unless it kept the charade with the same body from the very beginning, I doubt this though.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 15:45
Remember that on Day 4 it was Silvio. Reenk revealed this. Day 5 and 6 we don't know.
We should NOT vote for a lurker on the last day, because that is our LAST day.
Hey Tincow, howsa bout a one-time vig?
Edit: Alright, we shouldn't vote a lurker just for being a lurker.
Nick;2053363896']Hey Tincow, howsa bout a one-time vig?
Apologies if the vanilla roles were a little dull here, but remember that the purpose of this was mainly to test out the replacement kill mechanic. Roles will get a lot more interesting when I turn this into a Large game.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 15:51
In.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 15:57
Oh yes, this whole game concept has a lot of potential :)
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-24-2011, 16:25
Mi sento come una cavia.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 16:46
The one thing we all need to do next round is post as often as we can. I think we can get Reenk, but we're all going to need to invest some time and effort into doing it.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 16:49
-edit- And a happy birthday to our intrepid host! :medievalcheers:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 16:54
Hey Reenk, I really like your write-ups. :grin:
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 17:45
Didn't want to reveal today, but given that if I wanted to pursue a ruthless winning strategy at expense of all else, both Nick and Vito would be long dead, I might as well. ~:grouphug:
This is it :bow:
Vinny was the lynch I expected and hoped for, you four are the ones I wanted to remain alive at the endgame. Especially GH and Monty, my two arch nemeses this game. :duel: Luciano is only here because I haven't figured out who he is yet, I got the other three. :laugh4: There were other good candidates I would have liked, of course, such as Atpg and TLD, but you four are a good crew.
P.S.: Compliment TinCow for the writeups. I had nothing to do with them except for (slightly modified) The Analyst quotes. Did anyone get this by the way? GH you should have... :whip:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 18:15
So, next day we'll find Sonny's body and one of us will be "possessed"?
Omoshiroi ^^
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 18:17
Heh, my plan was to point out those quotes at the start of next day phase to assure everyone that I was still GH (since, like you said, I was probably the only one that should have gotten them).
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 18:21
The Analyst, eh? Assumed it was something 18th or 19th century. My carefully crafted comments were intended as a response from - a certain direction.
I was convinced that you intended to keep Vito and I alive for the endgame, but of course couldn't express this without compromising the calculation.
Your admission holds certain implications.
I have mastered the Probability Trance. I even managed to influence you into revealing yourself! I am now unstoppable. I have deduced every logical development in this game from now to the end. All other outcomes have been struck down. I have apprehended History. I have come before. I have mastered the passage of events. I have attained the Absolute - the Unconditioned Soul. I am no longer town. I am more. :evil:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 18:22
I predict that my triumphalist posturing will be my downfall.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 18:24
LOL Nick XD
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 18:27
I'll swap you Reenk - Luciano's identity for Frank's.
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 18:34
Vito'] Heh, my plan was to point out those quotes at the start of next day phase to assure everyone that I was still GH (since, like you said, I was probably the only one that should have gotten them).
I think that might have not worked out as you planned though, GH. Also, there are no passages left for the last round, I finished the relevant ones last kill.
Nick']My carefully crafted comments were intended as a response from - a certain direction.
See, the thing is unless you were speaking very plainly, which you did do a lot in the second half of the game, I basically just didn't try to read your posts carefully. :creep:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 18:47
Vito;2053363962']I'll swap you Reenk - Luciano's identity for Frank's.
If you wanna know mine I can tell you lol
But what's all this affection? :D
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 18:47
Aww, not even the one where you torture GH? I was particularly proud of that one. :cry:
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 18:51
Frank;2053363975']If you wanna know mine I can tell you lol
But what's all this affection? :D
Sure, if you want. That way it'll keep him from knowing Luciano.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 18:53
Everyone's laying down their cards anyway :P
I'm Arjos :)
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 19:04
Frank is Arjos. It's not critical for me to know who Luciano is, his behavior is the easiest to imitate should I pick him, but it would be nice to know, since for the last couple of rounds I got everyone down except him. :wall:
edit: crap, you already revealed. Your text smileys gave you away though Arjos. :beam:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-24-2011, 19:09
Bah I wasn't even trying to hide myself XD
For this last phase the only people I wasn't sure about where Vinny and Sonny, since for a few rounds many "helped" Vinny 'cos they thought he was khaan, I hoped you took it as a safe body haven :P
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 19:12
All right, I guess I'll have to do it the hard way and get Luciano by process of elimination now. There are only 4 potential people he could be though.
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 19:31
Gonna guess classical, and the other options have fairly similar (non-italian) posting styles as well, so my options are pretty open now. Toodles my friends, it was fun chatting, and I never expected to last this long, but now it's time to try and finish this off. :yes:
The wheel in the sky keeps on turning
I don't know where I'll be tomorrow
:sunny:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 19:44
The wheel in the sky keeps on turning
I don't know where I'll be tomorrow
:sunny:
This is the end
Beautiful friend
The end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
Of safety and surprise, the end
I'll never look in-to your eyes
Again...
The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery...
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die
This is the end.
https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/tye.jpg
Beautiful
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-24-2011, 20:01
I might as well speak in my native tongue, rather than using Google translate to put all my words into Italian. So Sonny, who are the other players you suspect me of being?
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 20:57
I love The Doors.
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 21:01
Luciano;2053364005']I might as well speak in my native tongue, rather than using Google translate to put all my words into Italian. So Sonny, who are the other players you suspect me of being?
Just what I wanted, a precedent for English for the final round. All is set. :2thumbsup: Wish me luck guys, I tried my best not to just be a mechanical Thing. I hope you enjoyed. :bow:
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 21:04
Good luck of course :bow:, but all the same, you're going down.
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 21:12
In 1997, the Flyers were the favorites, but the Wings swept them 4 straight, so you never know. Besides, I replaced Atpg, almost got caught by Nick with the somewhat cheap but also incredible force of his watching posting activity when I wasn't there. It was like Kareem's skyhook, unblockable, except... for Hakeem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrEsNS9zKg) :2thumbsup: Now, I can understand why Nick fell for the moderator code of honor thing, but why you, Mr. Gameroom moderator? :wiseguy:
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 21:20
The funny thing is, I had my suspicions that you had replaced ATPG that round, mainly through smiley usage (I'd never seen ATPG use the wink smiley and knew you were fond of it). The thing that held me back was that I purposely held off going after you for a round because I wanted you to make more posts/evidence so I'd have a stronger case on you the next day. :wall:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 21:21
Devious guy. See, I could tell immediately that you were just bluffing there. What you described had nothing to do with what I'd done! See, you lucked out here: I am by nature a timid and non-confrontational guy, and I didn't want to call down approbation by pressing the issue. Exactly, Vito. WE COULD HAVE TAKEN HIM DOWN
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 21:28
Wow, maybe I should have been more careful about how much detail I care about. I was initially concerned about what exactly Atpg would call you. I call you GH most of the time, but I wasn't sure if that's how he referred to you. Pretty soon I just said **** it and went with whatever impressions I had in mind from this very game. I figured nobody would care to notice if I did misstep, aside from perhaps you.
But the wink smiley thing was something Atpg himself did here:
Rocco;2053361164']Vote: Emilio
I'll give you guys another hint: It's not Emilio :wink: Can you save yourselves in time? I really hope not, because I'm really having lots of fun.
I TELL YOU THIS MUCH, HE ASKED FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Maybe he was impersonating me, but he used it before I replaced him.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-24-2011, 21:31
Generally you can get away with calling me GH as it's what the majority of people do. Of course, there are some notable exceptions to this but I'm not going to list them here. :tongue:
And about the wink smiley, I had pretty much discounted that particular post you quoted since I deemed it as ATPG doing a Reenk impersonation, mainly because I associate you with that particular smiley.
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 21:31
Nick;2053364034']Devious guy. See, I could tell immediately that you were just bluffing there. What you described had nothing to do with what I'd done! See, you lucked out here: I am by nature a timid and non-confrontational guy, and I didn't want to call down approbation by pressing the issue. Exactly, Vito. WE COULD HAVE TAKEN HIM DOWN
The thing is, I doubt I even would have to reply to that post of yours, because at the time, nobody was going for it, and you yourself didn't even vote for me. Granted, it wasn't as clear cut as you were saying it was, it is understandable if someone is active in other threads and doesn't check this game thread, I myself usually spend my time in the gameroom separately from the rest of the forum, but in this case you were on to something.
Has the Emilio debacle really destroyed your confidence Monty? It shouldn't. Nobody can understand the great Emilio. :laugh4:
edit: you don't mind being called Monty right? I don't want to say Montmorency all the time.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 21:45
Sonny;2053364041']Granted, it wasn't as clear cut as you were saying it was, it is understandable if someone is active in other threads and doesn't check this game thread, I myself usually spend my time in the gameroom separately from the rest of the forum, but in this case you were on to something.
I had guaged that Pizza was fairly invested in this game, given the way his posts always dripped with exultory glee and anticipation. :shrug:
Has the Emilio debacle really destroyed your confidence Monty? It shouldn't. Nobody can understand the great Emilio. :laugh4:
I didn't vote for you there because I had been suitably chastised. My previous response stands. Just as with Emilio, I hoped that history would vindicate me. Ah, if the Emilio Affair weren't hanging over me, maybe someone would have said "Aha! Of course. Pizza has been acting even Reenkier than usual."
edit: you don't mind being called Monty right? I don't want to say Montmorency all the time.
Sure. I think I understand what you're doing here...
[MAFIA] Nick
08-24-2011, 21:52
By the way, may I sig one of your lines?
[MAFIA] Sonny
08-24-2011, 21:54
Nick;2053364050']Sure. I think I understand what you're doing here...
Um, I don't have an agenda here... :laugh4:
By the way, may I sig one of your lines?
Sure. We will discuss compensation later. I really have to go study now.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 14:48
I feel the Reenk overtaking me. It is a good pain.
After Kage and CR departed, the five surviving henchmen look at each other, warily. No one really felt like doing any work; they all just stared at each other. Eventually one of the men broke the ice, "You know, we might as well just get to work. Kage and CR will be very upset if we do not complete this final project."
Another henchman scowled, "Oh, sure, that's exactly what you'd like, isn't it? You want us all to go off into dark corners, all alone, so that you can kill us! You're the Thing!"
A third henchman pointed at the second henchman, "that kind of accusation is exactly what the Thing would do to get us to turn on one another! You're the Thing!"
"You're all crazy!" said the fourth henchman. "You've probably all been replaced, I bet I'm the only human left here!" He pulled out a knife and waved it at the others. "Don't come any closer to me!"
"Guys, guys..." the fifth henchman said. "You seriously need to calm down. Zen, relax... chill yo. None of you is the Thing, you're all just being paranoid."
"How would you know?" cried the second henchman. "If we're not the the Thing that means you must be the Thing!" The first four henchmen stared at the fifth intently while slowly positioning themselves for a fight.
"No, you fools... think about it," replied the fifth henchman. "Who gives us stupid orders all the time that get us killed each night and then kills more of us every single day? Kage and CR! One or both of them has been replaced, not one of us!"
The fourth henchman lowered his knife, "Hmmm... that does kind of make sense, actually." The other three grudgingly agreed. "So what do we do about it?" said one of them.
The fifth henchman just laughed, "Nah, I'm just messing with you. I'm Wachugi Aozu Nhelhaqelh Ahizolo Xthuwi, pleased to eat you." He bowed. There was a second mouth on the top of his head. It blew a raspberry at the rest of the henchmen. They shrieked and ran, each moving down a different corridor.
"Eeny, meeny, miny, moe," Wachugi pointed to each of the hallways in turn. "Catch a henchman by his toe, if he offers you some blow, make the choice and just say no." He stood looking down the hallway his finger had landed on. "Wait for me, I just want to be friends! We can cuddle!" He laughed and began running down the corridor.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kage and CR were not pleased. "Where's my :daisy: torture chamber and snack bar, you bums?!" screamed Kage.
"Well, we..." stammered one of the henchman, "I don't..."
"You did not build the last part of the base, you nitwits!" Kage was red in the face. "The base is not finished! This project was in your hands!"
"This is our concern, henchdudes," said CR.
"C'mon man, there's an alien out there trying to eat us!" said one of the henchmen. "We were about to get to work when we thought that maybe you were the Thing..."
"What?!" exclaimed Kage.
"We were about to get to work, man" said the henchman, "and then this guy, he was saying. Look, we've got certain information, certain things have come to light, and uh, has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new :daisy:, that, us instead of running around blaming us, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh, you know?"
Kage stared at him blankly. "What in Sasaki's holy name are you blathering about?"
Another henchman piped in, "I'll tell you what he's blathering about! We got new information, new :daisy: has come to light and, :daisy:, man! There's an alien trying to eat us and when it finishes eating us henchmen it's going to eat you two as well!"
Kage and CR just stared at the henchman.
"Hasn't that ever occurred to you...?" said a third henchman, "Sirs?"
"That had not occurred to us, henchdude," said CR.
The third henchman nodded, "Well, okay, you're not privy to all the new :daisy: that happened last night, so uh, you know, but that's what you hired us for. Speaking of which, would it be possible for us to get out of here now? My grandmother back in the Frontroom is kinda sick, I gotta check with her doctor of course, but my concern is that, you know, it could be a rash..."
"CR, give them the package," said Kage.
CR handed a package to the second henchman. "We found it this morning." The henchman frowned and undid the outer paper wrapping.
Kage glared at the henchmen. "Since you have failed to complete even the modest task that was your charge, since you have lazed about and grown more concerned about your own lives than the orders of your Overlord, and since you have betrayed our trust..." The second henchman began unwrapping the towel in the middle of the package. "I have no choice but to tell Mr. Wachugi that he can do whatever he wants to you right here in this very room to punish you for your failures. And with CR as my witness, I tell you this: any further harm visited upon our Evil Antaractic Base shall be visited tenfold upon your heads!" The henchman finished unwrapping a package. Inside was a shoe-box diorama of a kitchen. A small James Bond action figure was stuck, head-first, into a fryalator made out of crudely cut construction paper. On the back, in red crayon, was written 'To Kage and CR, Love W.A.N.A.X.' There was a heart around it and a couple smiley faces. "By Sasaki, we will not abide another failure," said Kage. "This is your last chance to kill Mr. Wachugi, or we are officially replacing you all with him."
"Oh," CR's eyes brightened. "Also, we found this." He held up a toe. The henchmen just looked at it blankly. "Hrm, sorry... does this help?" He picked up some nail polish and painted 'I am Sonny's severed toe,' on it.
Kage stood up and adjusted his fedora. "Listen on! Listen on! This is the truth of it. Suspicion leads to lynching, and lynching gets to killing. And that was damn near the death of this base. Look at us now, busted up and everyone talking about going home. But we've learned by the blood of them all. Karnak's learned. Now when henchmen get to bickering, it happens here, and it finishes here. Four henchmen enter, three henchmen or one alien leaves," he gestured to the survivors. "And right now, we've got four henchmen. Three henchmen with a gut full of fear, and one alien with a gut full of beer. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls..." Kage smiled wickedly, "dying time's here!"
Day 7 will end in:
Get'cho freak on.
Alive: (4/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Nick
[MAFIA] Vito
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
[MAFIA] Silvio (N5)
[MAFIA] Rocco (N6)
[MAFIA] Sonny (N7)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Johnny (D4)
[MAFIA] Luigi (D5)
[MAFIA] Vinny (D6)
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 15:18
So down to 33% chances eh?
How's everyone feeling? XD
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 15:23
I LIVE! So which one of you is the phony, eh?:bounce:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 15:25
Before we finish this, I'd just like to say that being Nick has been fun. :)
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 15:25
Anyway I think Reenk's plan is to impersonate GH or Monty (as he knew them the most?)...
I don't buy the "oh an english sentence before the last round" regarding Luciano, even though he might have taken mine or Luciano's bodies as a final show down against his nemesis :P
I'm openly discussing, as yeah this is a do or die situation...
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 15:32
I'm just glad not to have to write all those annoying poems and stuff. It's such a relief.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 15:35
Waiting to see the other two posting, just hope it doesn't end with someone being away.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 15:36
But someone's already away. :wink:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 15:37
Well yes, I mean beside the Thing :P
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 15:38
Alright, here we go.
I'm obviously going to exclude myself as a potential suspect right off the bat. This may sound self-centered, but I believe Reenk is focusing quite a lot on me this game. In several places he has made that clear. It's the same gamesmanship I spoke of before, and I doubt I would be alive unless Reenk didn't want to pull the wool over my eyes for a more entertaining and enjoyable victory.
I feel safe in saying this same point applies to Nick as well, and so I'm going to clear him - for now.
That leaves us with Frank and Luciano.
I'm interested in why you've been holding off voting Frank? It's not unusual for Nick not to, but I can't say the same about you.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 15:39
What do you mean?
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 15:41
I'm getting ready to do a reread right now, but you've always seemed to vote with your first post. Here you aren't.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 15:41
We'll figure it out. :)
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 15:44
Sounds like a slam dunk case, GH! :smile:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 15:45
Mmmmm nope I haven't always.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 15:48
I see Vito much more aggressive than usual, since as Reenk said only GH could get his hints from the write-ups, I'm going to say that you wanted to take his body.
Vote: Vito
Still waiting to see Luciano though.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 15:51
Reenk was quoting The Analyst, which was something he first mentioned in Mafia V, a game which I hosted.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 15:56
And what a game that was.
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 16:00
Frank, you seem to be voting for me simply because I pointed out a change in behavior of yours. You see it is me being aggressive, but I see it as you being defensive.
Looking back on yesterday's posts, Reenk's focus on Luciano struck me as forced. This statement especially:
Sonny;2053364022']Just what I wanted, a precedent for English for the final round. All is set. :2thumbsup:
It looks like Reenk planted this whole exchange as a distraction towards Luciano. Interestingly, Frank sees the same thing.
Frank is a bit quieter than myself or Nick, and he's a bit easier to impersonate. I think Reenk replaced Frank knowing he could pull off a good impersonation of him throughout the last round. Luciano would serve as the red herring.
Vote: Frank
It's over Reenk. :smoking:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 16:02
You are being even more Reenkish now :P
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 16:03
Excellent. I win!
Vote: Frank
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 16:12
I see, you kept them because you knew they'd vote in pair, with you starting it?
I still wanna see Luciano, but I think Reenk is in Vito...
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 16:13
I'm not sure I agree with GH on the point that Reenk wouldn't take over Frank
Look, a post made by Rocco during his Reenk possession.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 16:20
Well if that isn't the proof of my view:
Reenk knew GH understood him well, while knows you'd believe in him (GH).
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 16:24
The problem with that is that Reenk has left me alive the entire game.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 16:27
Never, ever, rule out how people will act in any situation. :wink:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 16:28
He left GH for this round in order to blame another one, in this case me, knowing Monty would tag along...
From the idea of your (Reenk's) profile I'm getting, this would be the most enjoyable victory for you...
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 16:29
Anyway as I said, we really need to hear Luciano.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 16:30
Have you two chosen wisely?
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 16:32
Your Reenk-impersonating-Nick-impersonating-Reenk needs work, Nick.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 16:41
Very well.
Unvote; Vote: Vito
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 16:48
The reason I don't think it's Nick is because he has been acting a lot like Pizza early on. Trite, jokey one-liners aimed at impersonating Reenk. I don't think Reenk would do that.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 17:00
Perhaps Pizza never died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYV-JSjpyU&feature=related
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 17:02
Nice one ^^
That's the feeling I've been getting :)
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 17:11
Right, care to tell us exactly why you're voting for me Nick? Frank has made his case, and I have made my case. At this stage in the game I'd expect you to do the same.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 17:16
I should not present it as of yet.
Suffice to say, you feel scummy. However, empirical evidence suggests that neither of you are Reenk.
If this were a 3-man standoff, I would keep my vote on you. However, Luciano divides the attention. Besides, it would be just like Reenk to lurk until the end, right?
Unvote; Vote: Luciano
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 17:24
In the endgame, everyone feels scummy, and that's not a very ideal platform for discussion. I guess we'll have to wait for Luciano for any more of that.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 17:25
I agree if it's between the three of us, then is clearly Vito.
Must say though that Luciano always posted later on, most likely due to study/work schedule, but yes we need to hear from him.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-25-2011, 18:14
Right from the start I have been suspicious of Vito. I started out just always google translating my words from English into Italian since I know very little Italian to make a proper sentence. On reason why I have been posting later is that I have not been feeling well, so I have been staying up much later than normal due to the illness since it is causing me to not get much sleep. This is why I am only going to be signing up for the last gameroom anniversary mafia. Hopefully I get a doctor that will listen to what I say and hopefully will take the right steps in curing me, since this health problem has been going on for over 5 years now and the last month has been the worst.
BTW I am classical_hero as Sonny correctly guessed. Well done before you died or were left behind by the killer.
vote:Vito
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 18:21
Take care of yourself, sounds quite annoying that illness.
Anyway I don't get why being suspicious from the start? He's in Vito only for this round...
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 18:28
Luciano;2053364540']Right from the start I have been suspicious of Vito. I started out just always google translating my words from English into Italian since I know very little Italian to make a proper sentence. On reason why I have been posting later is that I have not been feeling well, so I have been staying up much later than normal due to the illness since it is causing me to not get much sleep. This is why I am only going to be signing up for the last gameroom anniversary mafia. Hopefully I get a doctor that will listen to what I say and hopefully will take the right steps in curing me, since this health problem has been going on for over 5 years now and the last month has been the worst.
BTW I am classical_hero as Sonny correctly guessed. Well done before you died or were left behind by the killer.
vote:Vito
Sonny was Reenk.
I can only hope you all will change your mind later on, otherwise congratulations Reenk. :bow:
I did look up Frank's posting behavior; aside from the first day, every time he made his first post, he voted.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 18:32
I noticed that about Sonny, coupled with "suspicious" from the start: those do sound fishy.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 18:39
Are you kidding me. :laugh:
I might as well speak in my native tongue, rather than using Google translate to put all my words into Italian. So Sonny, who are the other players you suspect me of being?
Right, so English suddenly became his second language just for today. And of course, perfect sob story. 5 years, huh. Neat coincidence. GH, are you really not seeing this?
The last line directed at Sonny: Luciano asked Sonny yesterday whom he suspected Luciano was. Sonny guessed classical. Luciano did not confirm. Anyway, why is Luciano suddenly acting as if he has never interacted with Sonny?
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 18:44
This is very confusing, all I need to know are GH's motives to act as he did before...
But Luciano really is behaving as "possessed", but would Reenk make so many mistakes?
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 18:49
:shrug:
May not be worth much, but one of the visitors to classical's profile was Mafia[Sonny].
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 18:53
Can this illness being screwing with his head? XD (If you are really sick, I'm sorry this is just a joke)
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 19:09
No, you wouldn't make that many mistakes, would you, Reenk? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-EEEEEEEEEE-EEEEEEEENK
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-25-2011, 19:37
Luciano;2053356683']I am here and I am the thing. ;)
Luciano;2053356685']Vote:Fat Tony. He was evil the last game and surely must be evil again.
@TC, can we change the location?
Luciano;2053356945']I was going to try and have some fun with my location, but now I can't.
As you can see my first few posts in this thread were in English
Vito;2053356950']Minnie Mouse è il mouse per me!
Frank;2053356959']Accontentati di Bertha!
Luciano;2053356974']Go on the subway diet. But I think we should all be talking Italian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhuOicPFZY
Hulu e stupidi i propri annunci.Then I saw those two "speak" in Italian so I thought it would be fun to speak in "Italian" for most of the game, but I eventually found it annoying going to google translate all the time. That was just part of the fun being in this game. So for most of this game I have been speaking in Italian until I got tired of that joke.
Well my time is most definitely not near 6:30pm, which the anon account saying, since my time is past 2:30am here in Perth.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 19:41
Explain the Sonny and always suspected Vito deals please.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-25-2011, 20:03
Well Sonny was the only one to correctly guess who I was, well he was the only to even try and guess so he was the only one who could possibly get it right. It will be interesting to see the Dead QT and see who got killed and if they were taken over or not. Well I have had votes on Vito for much of the game, so I am not going to change that right now, but I am starting to have second thought and thinking it might be your Frank who is the killer.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-25-2011, 20:07
I normally hate changing my votes, but i will this time and hope I am correct. unvote; vote:Frank
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 20:09
Asked, because who asked who you were was Reenk using Sonny's account.
But I think your story adds up (maybe you couldn't follow all the previous posts?)...
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 20:27
It may just be me, but I'm reading this exchange between Frank and Luciano as Reenk trying to cover both bases.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 20:32
Alright you Liberians, LISTEN UP. I've got data.
Look through all of this carefully.
Arjos Post 11:32
Frank post 11:29
Vito post 11:32
GH Active 11:31
Vito post 1:28
Vito active 1:29
Gh active 1:12
Luciano 1:14
Frank post 1:53
Frank active 1:54
Arjos post 1:54
Reenk post 1:45
Arjos post 2:04
Reenk post 2:06
Reenk post 2:34
Luciano post 2:37 (long post)
Luciano active 2:39
Classical activity 2:39
Arjos post 3:02
fRANK ACTIVE 2:42
Classical active 3:00
Luciano post 3:03
Luciano post 3:07
Luciano active 3:07
Classical active 3:07
Frank post 3:09
Vito posting 3:24
GH active 3:26
Vito post 3:27
Vito active 3:27
Cheap? Maybe.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 20:34
Reenk post 2:34
Luciano post 2:37 (long post)
Luciano is safe I think. The rest seems to lean toward Frank as Reenk.
Unvote: Luciano
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 20:37
Cheap indeed, that's why I switched to invisible...
Here's how I see it:
The whole Vito is Reenk assumptions from before remains, while classical imo didn't follow all the pages.
Maybe we can figure out that Luciano is trully classical, and I think so, 'cos he said Perth...
Is Reenk an Aussie?
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 20:38
Reenk follows American basketball. YOU SHOULD KNOW, EH?
[MAFIA] Vito
08-25-2011, 20:41
Reenk is American, from Michigan. His timezone is the same as mine (Eastern).
[MAFIA] Frank
08-25-2011, 20:44
Well Reenk you are a sport...
If this backfires to me, so be it, but I did got that you are in Vito now...
[MAFIA] Nick
08-25-2011, 23:38
No. Just when I begin to clear a guy he starts acting all scummy. But I have some weight to throw around here. I am not entirely powerless.
Vote:Vito
Eat tie.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-26-2011, 07:04
Nick;2053364636']Luciano is safe I think. The rest seems to lean toward Frank as Reenk.
Unvote: LucianoThat is really scummy of you, since he clearly put me with classical_hero. I am not RR.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-26-2011, 07:18
Just shaddap, vote Vito. It's all so clear to me now.
Vote. I've been compulsively refreshing for the last 11 hours. Just vote. Please.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-26-2011, 07:55
I misread what Nick said. Idiot of me. So we have a tie with Frank and Vito having two votes each.
[MAFIA] Nick
08-26-2011, 07:59
It is Vito. Please switch.
[MAFIA] Luciano
08-26-2011, 08:07
They don't call me Lucky Luciano for nothing, so hopefully my gut is right. unvote; vote:Vito
[MAFIA] Nick
08-26-2011, 08:15
Good night, good night.
We've won the fight.
And so, farewell.
O go to Hell.
Nobody home
in the shantih.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-26-2011, 10:07
Good we got him ^^
Reenk :) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne8WwlCP-44)
[MAFIA] Vito
08-26-2011, 13:23
Okay, listen to me very clearly. I am not Reenk.
Frank, I simply voted for you based on what I thought Reenk would do and your change in behavior. I don't regret it at all, at the point all the evidence pointed to you, and you kept making yourself look suspicious. However, I think it's become clear to me who the real scum is. The one who's been watching our activity for discrepancies, but instead has them in his own activity. Nick cannot be Montmorency.
Unvote, Vote: Nick
-edit-
To elaborate, since you have to log out of your main account to post with your anonymous account, the fact that Nick and Montmorency were both logged in at the same time several times yesterday is an impossibility if Montmorency were Nick. This could explain why Nick was ready to vote for anybody who seemed to have the strongest suspicion against him at the time, be it Frank, then myself, then Luciano, then Frank again, and finally myself again.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-26-2011, 13:50
Nick basically never voted for Luciano, he placed his vote on him because he was still to post...
I don't know about all these activity and posts data, never checked them nor I like the idea, as I said imo it's cheap...
I explained why I think you are Reenk, I know who I am and Luciano is all clear...
Nick so far behaved as Nick, I'm open to discuss it though, just bring logic and reason to the mix...
[MAFIA] Nick
08-26-2011, 14:16
Cool story , but I am going to Montmorency will post onto his profile at exactly 9:16 EST. Checkmate.
your post fairly reenks of desperation.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-26-2011, 14:18
Exactly, also he's saying that he's very suspicious of me, but out of the blue goes on voting for you...
[MAFIA] Vito
08-26-2011, 14:32
Yes, Nick did vote for Luciano, and he was suspicious of him. He didn't believe at all he was classical for a while.
Frank, I was suspicious of you. I posted my reasons beforehand. My vote on Nick was hardly out of the blue though. Nick cannot be Montmorency. It's impossible. If you want the logic and reason, who has shifted their behavior the most? Even more than you? Nick.
By the way, since Luciano was suspicious of you the most, what benefit would I have by going to Nick at the very end? Because he's avoid all suspicion so far, although it's a slam dunk case that he's guilty.
I'll humbly accept my fate to die here, but I got you Reenk. :bow:
[MAFIA] Frank
08-26-2011, 14:38
All I have to say to that is:
Nah XD
[MAFIA] Vito
08-26-2011, 14:40
Well, serves me right for being so suspicious all game. :laugh4:
[MAFIA] Nick
08-26-2011, 14:53
If you can't slam with the best, then jam with the rest.:smoking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWKQiZVBtu4&feature=related
[MAFIA] Vito
08-26-2011, 14:59
If you suppose that I am The Thing, you gotta also suppose that I have a get out of lynch free card.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-26-2011, 15:01
Write-up will tell, I'm expecting bug's juices squirting around :D
[MAFIA] Nick
08-26-2011, 15:04
Vito;2053365084']If you suppose that I am The Thing, you gotta also suppose that I have a get out of lynch free card.
Emilio? :wink:
Frank;2053365086']Write-up will tell, I'm expecting bug's juices squirting around :D
You will be disappointed.
[MAFIA] Frank
08-26-2011, 15:07
Damn XD
Montmorency
08-26-2011, 15:08
Stop f'ing with us. Gh hasn't been active in 7.5 hours. :smug:
Kage and CR watched the henchmen debate for hours. After a while, CR stood up and everyone grew quiet. "So, what is your decision?" Three of the henchmen pointed at Vito. CR frowned. "Vito? Really? Why him?"
"He's acting weird!" said one henchman.
"I've been staring at him for hours and hours, and... he moves weird," said another henchman.
"Those guys told me to vote for him," the third henchman said, gesturing to the first two.
CR shrugged, "Welp, if that's what you think, I guess there's only one thing to do..." CR looked at Kage. Kage nodded and left the room. After a few moments her returned with a flamethrower. CR picked it up and strapped it to his back, then leveled the nozzle at Vito.
"Uh, the rest of you might want to stand back a bit," Kage said. Frank, Luciano, and Nick, quickly edged away from Vito, who was now sweating and glancing around the room nervously.
"Can't we talk about this some more?" pleaded Vito. "I swear, there's been some kind of misunderstanding here. Just give me a little more time..."
"Time?" CR put on some dark goggles. "Where you're going, you don't need time."
"You deserve this," added Kage.
CR pulled the trigger and Vito covered his face and screamed an unearthly scream. It seemed to come from multiple orifices on his body. He shrieked and thrashed about... and then suddenly stopped. He looked down at himself and saw nothing but colored confetti. The floor around him was littered with the stuff, and some was still drifting through the air. A few pieces were still lodged in the nozzle of CR's flamethrower. Kage was wearing a party hat.
"Uh..." said Vito.
CR walked up and mussed up his hair and gave him a slap on the back. "We couldn't kill you, Mr. Wachugi! We think you're great."
Kage nodded and slapped him on the back. "You made it far enough, you've proved your worth. We think with a little more training you could be the bestest henchman EVAR!"
"For reals," said CR. "You'd be super useful for 'filtering out' the losers from the good recruits for the next phase of our Global Conquest plan. In the meantime, you can enjoy the luxuries the rest of these schlepps have been building." The two evil overlords put their arms on Mr. Wachugi's shoulders and started walking towards their private harem.
"Sirs?" Frank had his hand raised.
Kage glared at him. "What is it, Mr. Frank?"
"Don't we get some kind of reward? We did catch him, after all." The other two surviving henchmen nodded in agreement.
CR scowled at them. "Shadduppa your face and get back to work! Your pathetic lives are all the reward you deserve; you didn't even finish construction! What kind of pathetic henchmen can't even build a proper Evil Antarctic Ultra-Lair?" Kage glared at them as well. "Finish your work, or we'll feed you to Mr. Wachugi."
And with that, the two evil overlords left to play with their new Super Henchman. As Mr. Wachugi left the room, his posterior morphed into a face and stuck its tongue out at the surviving henchmen.
TOWN VICTORY
Alive: (3/17)
[MAFIA] Frank
[MAFIA] Luciano
[MAFIA] Nick
Killed:
[MAFIA] Bertha (N1)
[MAFIA] Fat Tony (N2)
[MAFIA] Paulie (N3)
[MAFIA] Bobby (N4)
[MAFIA] Silvio (N5)
[MAFIA] Rocco (N6)
[MAFIA] Sonny (N7)
Lynched:
[MAFIA] Salvatore (D1)
[MAFIA] Bugsy (D2)
[MAFIA] Emilio (D3)
[MAFIA] Johnny (D4)
[MAFIA] Luigi (D5)
[MAFIA] Vinny (D6)
[MAFIA] Vito (D7)
All thread bans have been lifted, and all players are free to post in this thread now.
Deader Quicktopic (http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iyGJUZQACSTc)
Original Anonymous Account Assignments:
[MAFIA] Luciano - classical_hero
[MAFIA] Vito - GeneralHankerchief
[MAFIA] Johnny - B_Ray
[MAFIA] Emilio - Mr. Stuka
[MAFIA] Salvatore - Tratorix
[MAFIA] Fat Tony - Populus Romanus
[MAFIA] Frank - Arjos
[MAFIA] Bobby - TheLastDays
[MAFIA] Bugsy - Ishmael
[MAFIA] Sonny - Death is yonder
[MAFIA] Rocco - Askthepizzaguy
[MAFIA] Silvio - Captain Blackadder
[MAFIA] Nick - Montmorency
[MAFIA] Vinny - issaikhaan
[MAFIA] Paulie - johnhughthom
[MAFIA] Luigi - Major Robert Dump
[MAFIA] Bertha - Reenk Roink
[MAFIA] Vito
08-26-2011, 15:10
Stop f'ing with us. Gh hasn't been active in 7.5 hours. :smug:
If you close your browser with your anonymous account, you open up with it.
Montmorency
08-26-2011, 15:13
He may have escaped, but - Arjos, Classical -
the glory is all ours, boys.
Bwahahahahahahah tough life for the henchmen :D
Montmorency
08-26-2011, 15:14
If you can't slam with the best...
Reenk Roink
08-26-2011, 15:14
Thank you so much for hosting TinCow, great mechanic and excellent execution of it with the accounts and timer. :bow:
Now, the only thing I don't understand, what is up with CR and Kage here? Anything I'm missing?
Montmorency
08-26-2011, 15:15
Setting up for the sequel Large Game, probably.
I wasn't lying, no bug juice. :2thumbsup:
Well done to everyone, particularly Reenk, Monty, and Arjos. I think the Deaders and I universally agree that Reenk intentionally took the hard road in this game just because he wanted to challenge himself. It was a masterful performance, and we all enjoyed it greatly. You'll notice that pretty much all the dead townies were rooting for him, which is something of a rare occurrence in a mafia game. Monty and Arjos really did do some superb analysis in the final stages of the game though, and the two of them won this game for themselves and solidly deserve it.
Thanks to everyone for participating, I've learned a lot about how the replacement mechanism works and have a lot of ideas on how to improve on it in the future. I'd appreciate some post-game commentary on the system from anyone who has an opinion. What worked, what didn't work, what can be improved?
A few of my own observations to get things rolling:
1) Activity tracking makes life incredibly hard for Things. I am considering making it mandatory to enable invisibility mode on all main AND anonymous accounts for the duration of the next game. There is no way for me to prevent dead players from posting on the forums, but we can at least level the playing field a little more by preventing activity tracking simply with online status.
2) When I turn this into a large game, I think I will have two or three Things as well as pro-town roles. One thing I am unsure of though... should Things gain the powers of any pro-town role they take over?
3) I think next time I will allow dead players to continue posting in the main thread if they were lynched. There's no way the replacement mechanism will work if night-kill players are allowed to post, but there will always be ambiguity about lynchees. This may give the game a bit more discussion.
Also gratz Reenk, you played it extremely well, in all honesty I wouldn't have minded losing due to some superb acting, but losing it to confused votes: never! :D
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