The March of Time - A Stainless Steel 6.4 hotseat

[phonicsmonkey]

I'll find out if he's joining the game - some comments in the recruitment thread suggested otherwise. If not I'll skip this time and we'll try for one more turn to find another player before declaring them sacrosanct as per my previous posts on the subject.

[RexLegend]

Well it looked for me that aazard is not joining because he(she?) wants horrible vanilla hotseat.
One does not simply walk into magnificent Stainless Steel. :tongue2:

[phonicsmonkey]

Well it looked for me that aazard is not joining because he(she?) wants horrible vanilla hotseat.
One does not simply walk into magnificent Stainless Steel. :tongue2:

Please do not disparage other people's preferences. I know you're joking but we try very hard to be welcoming here, not critical of new members.

[slysnake]

bump!

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, still not sure if he's joining but it doesn't look like it so I've skipped the turn this time

Swabia

[RexLegend]

Wait why is Teutonic Order still present?? "surrender_regions" console command didn't work? :(

[Nigel]

Well, all I can say is that I just skipped them, when their turn came up after Kiev.

They do not have any regions at all, nor do they have any armies. Two bishops is all they have left if I recall correctly.

[RexLegend]

Looks like assassins have job to do >:)

[slysnake]

Sicily! 3521

[Myth]

Genoa up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9907)

[slysnake]

bump!

[RexLegend]

Ahem... Anyone??! Anyone out there?! 'Cmon guys... I don't like to wait pointlessly for my turn by checking more than 3 times in day. :(
Btw... Genoa seems to get some hard punch in all fronts.

[Nightbringer]

Ahem... Anyone??! Anyone out there?! 'Cmon guys... I don't like to wait pointlessly for my turn by checking more than 3 times in day. :(
Btw... Genoa seems to get some hard punch in all fronts.

Hey, I tried to help...

[RexLegend]

Your help is greatly appreciated! :)

[Nightbringer]

Your help is greatly appreciated! :)

???

I meant about Genoa, but I would do anything I could to keep things running quickly.

I could of course sub Genoa :)

It looks like nobody left a message for iggy that it is his turn though (I just did so). Maybe they sent a pm, but his inbox is pretty much always full so he might not have gotten it.

[Myth]

I sent a PM and it did not bounce back. Genoa didn't have any fronts really, apart from AI France. I warned Ignoramus to hold off on attacking Venice but he insisted. I did what I can to stop him from doing this, but allies are allies and I don't go back on my word.

[Ignoramus]

Myth, I'm sorry, but you never warned me from attacking Venice - you told me yourself you deliberately didn't tell me so you could then attack me unprepared.

[Nightbringer]

Ah, such diplomatic intrigue...

I LOVE it!

[Ignoramus]

BTW: Don't worry, Myth, I'm not annoyed at you all personally - in fact, I prefer it if IC dealings stay IC and are handled in the Diplomacy thread - it stops acrimony.

[Ignoramus]

Denmark:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9920

The Republic of Genoa wishes that the Sicilians stop their greedy land grabbing and bare-faced lies and negotiate a peace treaty with us. We are prepared to offer concessions, as our latest offer suggests. Otherwise, we call upon upon our friends the Moors to come to our aid!


The Sicilian fleet off the coast of Tuscany has been defeated and can't move next turn. Milan taken and that settlement in Nth Africa next to Tunis.

Also, I had a strange thing occur when I assaulted one of the Sicilian forts: I had a single trebuchet which breached one of the walls, but when it got destroyed the battle ended saying I lost, despite the fact that the fort only had a single circuit of walls and I could access everywhere. Anyone had this happen, or know why?

[Myth]

Igno I told you IC that Venice is much stronger and that attacking them would prove disastrous for you. Anyway how did you take that African settlement, do you have siege weapons? The Trebuchet probably did not destroy the wall fully. If even a tiny bit of rubble remains, it still counts as a wall. You have to hear the announcer say that you've breach the enemy's walls for the siege weapon to become irrelevant.

That fort is full of quality troops though, you'd have to have unparalleled skill in leading spear militia to victory over them. The GB unit and the Sicillo-Norman knights alone can probably kill 2000 spear militia.. Such is the way of SS.

[RexLegend]

Fatimid's Turn (http://www.upload.ee/files/2046437/MoT-6-Fatimids.rar.html)

Took two cities of Norway, which means Norway is no more. Attacked rebels outside of Turku and took control over Finland. Also declared war on France and took Metz. Another wave of landgrabbin'! :)

[Nightbringer]

That fort is full of quality troops though, you'd have to have unparalleled skill in leading spear militia to victory over them. The GB unit and the Sicillo-Norman knights alone can probably kill 2000 spear militia.. Such is the way of SS.

If led by a player yes, but with the ai leading them spear militia can deal with anything except GB fairly well. And european GB are no where near the monsters that the eastern ones are.

[Myth]

Not when he's assaulting a stone fort though. And the GBs/SNKs are tough cookies even if they are not Scholarii and Roman BGs.

[phonicsmonkey]

Cumans

[Ignoramus]

Myth: (No hard feelings but for record here is the PM)

"Respected Chancellor of Genoa,

we are surprised by your decision to wage war on Venecia. Truly, their armies are formidable and their republic stretches from Hamburg to Durazzo. Genoa is small, and you would be hard pressed to win against them. We also knew of the Mooris-Egyptian alliance, and yet the Moors went to war with France on your grace's behalf. The Egyptians are preoccupied with conquering Roman territories, as are we to be honest, as the more territories we take, that much less will be left for the Muslims.

Sicilly will need some time to think, as undoubtedly blood will need to be spilled. Let us know of your plan so that we may judge correctly."

No, it did destroy the wall, as the breech was promptly occupied by enemy spearmen and I did hear the voiceover. I probably wouldn't have won, but I didn't realise until I started fighting the battle that in SS fort are stone. Otherwise, I might have done otherwise.

That stack in Africa had a catapult in it. That's why I left it there - in case this happened.

[Nightbringer]

You know, you can share that IC if you want. I figure that diplomatic pms should be fair game in the diplomacy rome. Although others may become hesitant to inform you of their plans in secret.

[Myth]

I think it fairly obvious I meant to deter you from attacking. BTW when siege assaulting, target the gate, as it's 2 times weaker than the walls at lest. I don't remember seeing a catapult in the African stack but I probably missed it.

[Ignoramus]

I tried that with my first assault on Milan - and I ran out of ammunition. Getting the trebuchet rocks to actually hit the gates and not the gatehouse is quite a challenge.

[Myth]

Yeah, when you only have the one treb you need a bit of luck to knock out two gatehouses. One will go down 90% of the time though. When I have one treb I usually autocalc.

[Rougeman]

3670

[Zim]

The Grand and Noble Kingdom of Poland is up.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9938

Also, the fellow in the dress and pointy hat in Rome sure likes France at the moment.

[Myth]

The Grand and Noble Kingdom of Poland is up.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9938

Also, the fellow in the dress and pointy hat in Rome camping in the hills near Sicilly's Rome (because he is punished), sure likes France at the moment.

Fixed for you :laugh4:

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Turn 6 again ?..

[Zim]

Sorry, I mixede up the current turn 6 for the turn 6 we had last turn. ~;p

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9942

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Np,

Moors up!
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21317913/MoT-Moors-6.sav

[Nightbringer]

lithuania!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9943

[Nigel]

Downloaded it and played my turn.

Kiev is up:

3801

[Mithridate]

Kwaz

[RexLegend]

Do we have player for Kwarezm?

[phonicsmonkey]

Nope. Could someone please skip them? The pw should be clear.

[RexLegend]

Took care of this. And suprisingly, Swabia turn (http://www.upload.ee/files/2071927/MoT-7-Swabia.rar.html) appeared! :)

Slysnake is already informed about that.
EDIT: Btw, next time slysnake will skip Kwaz turn when we still haven't found player for them. Or we could just make them to AI...

[phonicsmonkey]

Btw, next time slysnake will skip Kwaz turn when we still haven't found player for them. Or we could just make them to AI...

We're going to leave them human and just skip them as discussed here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?138477-The-March-of-Time-A-Stainless-Steel-6-4-hotseat&p=2053413434&viewfull=1#post2053413434)

So it'd be great if either Nigel or slysnake could do that each turn. Thanks guys!

[slysnake]

Sicily!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/bhlu88

[Myth]

Wow. this came up fast. Sorry, I read the PM at work and forgot I was up. I'll do this tonight.

[Myth]

Since I couldn't wait on the Dodge's decision I took Piza and Genoa this turn. One of the two Genoese fleets has been sunk, the one with the army barely survived but can't move next turn. A Roman halfstack destroyed in the East.

Genoa up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9953), though they are living on fumes.

[RexLegend]

Bumpty bump! Is ignoramus missing something again?

[slysnake]

bump.

[RexLegend]

C'mon guys, I gotta have to go tomorrow. Should be able to do my turn tomorrow morning, so please... Ignoramus has gone missing again, shouldn't we skip his turn now?

[Nigel]

Hmm, it seems that @phonicsmonkey has been forced to go on vacation.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136573-The-Anteroom-community-discussion-thread&p=2053423802&viewfull=1#post2053423802

Does anyone else have admin access to the game? Zim or NB?

[Zim]

Pmed Ignoramus. I can skip this tonight if need be.

[RexLegend]

Still no sign, 5 hrs and I gotta have to go.

EDIT: I appoint slysnake as my sub.

[Zim]

Sorry Rex. I was trying to to err on the nice side before skipping a turn, had not noticed just how soon before you wouldn't be able to play your own turn. :bow:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9970

[slysnake]

Fatimids!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ey8m8

[Nightbringer]

Cumans up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9972

[Rougeman]

4062

[Zim]

I'll be needing a sub for this turn. I'll try to get one quickly or if that's not possible, get Phonics to skip my turn.

[Myth]

I would have offered to sub you but you've been all mysterious like and not answered a single diplomatic message... So maybe I'm not your prime candidate :clown:

[Nigel]

I could, if you want to (and leave me some pointers of what you want to do).
Or, if I remember correctly, NB has subbed you before, no?

Edit : ok, I did your turn, Zim.

Poland is up now:
4126

[Nightbringer]

woops, I was supposed to sub England and I totally forgot. Sorry... Things have been crazy.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Damn, forgot about this. Ill do it in several hours.. sry guys.

EDIT: http://www.gamefront.com/files/21371731/MoT-7-Moors.sav

[Nightbringer]

Lithuania up! Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9990

slysnake

I couldn't give you Corinth this turn because hotseat games don't let you accept 1 sided deals. I sent a counter offer where I give you Corinth in exchange for your map information. As long as that is okay with you, you should be able to accept it on your turn.

[slysnake]

Lithuania up! Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9990

slysnake

I couldn't give you Corinth this turn because hotseat games don't let you accept 1 sided deals. I sent a counter offer where I give you Corinth in exchange for your map information. As long as that is okay with you, you should be able to accept it on your turn.

As long as you will let me ask you for map information next turn :)

[Nightbringer]

As long as you will let me ask you for map information next turn :)

sure thing, just make sure it isn't a one sided deal. you can offer 1 florin or something.

[Myth]

Hey, I'd pay you one florin for your map information :laugh4:

[Nigel]

Did my turn.

Mithridate, Kiev is up for you.

4233

[Mithridate]

kwaz

aazard

[phonicsmonkey]

kwaz

aazard

aazard is not playing - please skip the Kwaz turn and post the next one.

These are the special rules about the Kwaz:

It is forbidden to interact with the Kwaz in any way - they should be considered to be not a part of the game at all and their territories are not part of the map.

So, no-one can take any of their lands or attack any of their armies or agents. No diplomatic deals are allowed with the Kwaz including trade rights and map swaps.

Exceptions:

- if their armies and agents are in your lands you may attack and destroy them.
- if your victory conditions include territories currently held by the Kwaz you may take them and any territories along the way, but only if your other victory conditions have already been satisfied.

Please let me know if you have any questions about these special rules.

[slysnake]

Khwarez skipped, Sicily up:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0aoscm

[Myth]

https://img546.imageshack.us/img546/6425/kingdoms201202282145440.jpg

Genoa's royal bloodline has been severed and the faction is no more. Good game to Ignoramus!

Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9995) RexLegend

[RexLegend]

Fatimid's turn (http://www.upload.ee/files/2119400/MoT-8-Fatimids.rar.html) phonicsmonkey

Didn't expect turn to come up that fast. No time-wasting, straight to-do. :)

[phonicsmonkey]

Cumans, Rougeman

[Rougeman]

Zim

[Nigel]

Zim asked me to sub him.


Here is the upload for Poland.
Good Luck, Gaius Octavius Caesar

4331

[phonicsmonkey]

Are France and Norway dead now? Any idea what turn it happened on for each?

[Nightbringer]

Are France and Norway dead now? Any idea what turn it happened on for each?

France still exists, but is likely to be gone next turn. If not, the turn after that for sure.

[RexLegend]

Norway died on 6th turn. Checked older posts.
In my opinion things are getting little tight on this map... :clown:

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Nightbringer

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21391697/MoT-8-Moors.sav

[Nightbringer]

Nigel

lithuania up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10006

And France has somehow made it through another turn, they are hiding their king somewhere. (also, I forgot to move my trebuchets in range of paris last turn :laugh4: )

[Nigel]

Kiev is uploaded here.

Good Luck and Gods Speed, Mithridate

4379

[Mithridate]

Luck and heavenly speed received

So it begins...


haha, this turn was a blast^^
My honorable ally, i know i said you would not take losses but sadly i have failed...
3k Novgorodian men lie dead, 600 of mine and i regret to say... 5 of yours :sweatdrop:
They had a LOT of siege units so great balls of fire flew everywhere, quite awesome if i may say so

After the battle i moved on and attacked Novgorod... lost 12 men not counting plastic bodyguards while an army of 700 dispersed ^^
Novgorod is yous Nigel!

Now i merely have to find the PM saying how much if the income i was supposed to get xD Its 4k/turn from the city


phonicsmonkey

[RexLegend]

Actually it's directed to slysnake, but it's ok. Quite fast speed...

[slysnake]

Myth You're up :)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/f7s0vf

[Myth]

Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10009)

[slysnake]

Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10009) The Celtic Viking

Don't you mean RexLegend ? XD

[RexLegend]

Fatimids! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/uq0ova) phonicsmonkey

Go go go!

[phonicsmonkey]

Fatimids! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/uq0ova) phonicsmonkey

Go go go!

Ye gods that came around quickly, nice work guys!

I'm at work though so I'm afraid the run stops here...

[Myth]

Oh yeah, wrong Denmark (TCV is Denmark in WOTK2) :laugh4:

Mithridate you took ERE Targoviste?

[phonicsmonkey]

Cumans, Rougeman

[Nigel]

Hehe, there was a time when this game was going at 1 turn per month.
Then it seemed to speed up to 1 turn per week, but the recent turn around made me think :

Gosh, you guys are really trying to take it to 1 turn per day. :jester:

[Myth]

My social life got a jolt during the weekend and it's sleeping now. I'm playing TW while it wakes up again in two weeks :laugh4:

[Rougeman]

aazard is not playing - please skip the Kwaz turn and post the next one.

These are the special rules about the Kwaz:

It is forbidden to interact with the Kwaz in any way - they should be considered to be not a part of the game at all and their territories are not part of the map.

So, no-one can take any of their lands or attack any of their armies or agents. No diplomatic deals are allowed with the Kwaz including trade rights and map swaps.

Exceptions:

- if their armies and agents are in your lands you may attack and destroy them.
- if your victory conditions include territories currently held by the Kwaz you may take them and any territories along the way, but only if your other victory conditions have already been satisfied.

Please let me know if you have any questions about these special rules.

i just relised, after looking to see if i could take one of their regions, that one of the cuman victory conditions require them to Destroy the kwazzies :confused:

[phonicsmonkey]

Rougeman, are you going to post the save?

Maybe, for you, we'll make custom victory conditions so that you can do everything on your standard list except destroy the khwaz. Would that be ok?

[Rougeman]

yeah, that'd be fine

woops, i thought i posted the save Zim

[Nigel]

Good going, guys.

I will be away from now until Sunday evening.
As it is likely my turn will fall into that time, Mithridate is subbing for me.
Please send him a note, when Lithuania comes up.

Have fun,
Nigel

[Zim]

I've been having trouble getting mods to work with the steam version I bought (already attempted the workarounds) and will be switching to a gamersgate copy this weekend. Could I get a couple extension? It would be Sunday at the latest.

[Rougeman]

I've been having trouble getting mods to work with the steam version I bought (already attempted the workarounds) and will be switching to a gamersgate copy this weekend. Could I get a couple extension? It would be Sunday at the latest.


by workarounds do you mean renaming the mods campaign folder to a kingdoms campaign folder and running it through the vanilla launcher?

[RexLegend]

Bump!

[Zim]

I just tried whatever I could find in the SS tech support section. I don't believe that was one of them though...

First gamersgate download had an error. Bah. I'll see about getting a sub while this is worked out.


by workarounds do you mean renaming the mods campaign folder to a kingdoms campaign folder and running it through the vanilla launcher?

[Nigel]

I dont know it if will be any help, but here is a link to the tials and tribulations I had to go through to get my MTW patched to 1.05 and be able to install the SS6.4 mod.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?138643-Problem-patching-M2TW-Kingdoms-(Gold-Edition)-to-patch-1-05

[phonicsmonkey]

I have sent Zim a pm offering to sub for him

[RexLegend]

Bump again. We're basically in hibernation stage...

[Nightbringer]

I'm subbing, and I can do it in about 6 hours.

[Nightbringer]

poland up!
Gaius Octavius Caesar

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10037

[phonicsmonkey]

bump Gaius Octavius Caesar

[Nigel]

Did anyone hear anything from Gaius Octavius Caesar?
Did he ask anyone to sub him?

[phonicsmonkey]

Time to skip this turn. However I'm at a conference and my backup admin doesn't have a working copy of the game.

Nigel, would you mind helping? I'll send you the admin password by pm

[RexLegend]

I could help you out. Plenty of time here.

[Nigel]

hmm, I seem to be having problems entering the console.
Tilde ~ key does not seem to work for me. Is there a specail place where I need to be to get in? What am I supposed to be seeing?

Rex, are you able to access the console? Or someone else?

[RexLegend]

Try "Ü".
It's estonian keyboard however... Take a look here and improvise. (http://ascii-table.com/keyboard.php/454) :P

[Nightbringer]

lithuania up!
Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10050

[Nigel]

Novgorod city is now part of the Lithuanian Grand Duchy.
Our governor was given a warm wellcome by the burghers - order and peace are restored.

Mithridate, Kiev is up:

4804

[Mithridate]

Kwaz

phonicsmonkey slysnake

[slysnake]

Sicily Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0tsp0f

[Nigel]

Hmm, I nocied something strange about the way the time is counted in this game.

I thought it was half a year per turn; the last turn (8) was Winter 1232, this turn (9) is Summer 1233.
But turn 7 was Summer 1231 !!


Is this a bug, or is time counted differently in the game?

[RexLegend]

SS6.4 works in that way. Late Era campaign should run on half-year version.

[Myth]

This game is ran at Early Campaign, just fast-forwarded for 200 turns. It's 1TPY.

Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10061) RexLegend

[Nigel]

It's 1TPY.


Ah, now I get it: It is one turn per year and alternating between Summer and Winter.

Gah, and I had thought it was 2 turns per year and wondered, why the years were flying by so fast....
Guess I have to go and re-calculate the end dates of some of my contractst now. :smile:

[RexLegend]

Fatimid's turn (http://www.sendspace.com/file/wc9kpr) phonicsmonkey
Double-time, Spartans! Enough of delay! :P

[phonicsmonkey]

Rougeman, Cumans are up

[Rougeman]

Zim

[RexLegend]

Ugh... Bump! Zim phonicsmonkey

[phonicsmonkey]

Zim is installing the game as we speak. Nightbringer has been subbing for him in this game, not me. It's late here and if no-one has played by the time I get up I'll skip it then.

[Zim]

That'll be a skip then. Go ahead, I think England can take it (I'm assuming noone invaded me in the last turn).

[phonicsmonkey]

@Gauis Octavius Caesar, Poland is up

[slysnake]

I'm going on holiday tomorrow for a week - if I am late playing my turn (48 hours) assume I have no internet access, although, apparently, there SHOULD be. In the event I am late playing my turn, I designate RexLegend as my sub :)

[Nightbringer]

if the turn hasn't been played tomorrow morning, I can sub for zim.

[phonicsmonkey]

if the turn hasn't been played tomorrow morning, I can sub for zim.

Nightbringer, please go ahead, and skip Poland when you're done. I don't think GOC is coming back but we'll give him another turn before looking for a replacement or turning Poland AI.

[Nightbringer]

lithuania up!
Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10075

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Hey, im still in this, i only check the forum when i receive a mail about my turn. And i didnt received any about my last 2 turns.

So, please send a PM when my turns pops up. Thanks!

[phonicsmonkey]

Hey, im still in this, i only check the forum when i receive a mail about my turn. And i didnt received any about my last 2 turns.

So, please send a PM when my turns pops up. Thanks!

Sorry buddy. we've been using the forum 'mention' thing but it doesn't send an email. Zim, could you please pm GOC next turn? (I realise NB has been subbing for you so this isn't a criticism of anybody)

Glad to hear you're still in the game GOC!

[Nigel]

Kiev is uploaded, Mithridate

5076

[Nightbringer]

same here GOC, and sorry about you missing your turns!

On the plus side, you have a nice treasury built up now as I recall. :)

[Mithridate]

Playing

[Mithridate]

kwaz slysnake

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Thanks for subbing NB! :)

[Nigel]

Hi Guys,

I will be away from today until Tuesday evening.
If my turn should come up before I return, I am asking Mithridate to sub me.

Have a good Easter Holiday, everyone. :)

[slysnake]

Sicily! Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8hb6no

[RexLegend]

Bump Myth

[Myth]

Denmark up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10090) RexLegend

Thanks for the bump. Heh this game has gotten pretty laid back for me at least. I haven't seen this much prosperity in my kingdom in a HS game in a long time :yes:

[RexLegend]

Fatimids (http://www.upload.ee/files/2244052/MoT-11-Fatimids.sav.html) phonicsmonkey

[phonicsmonkey]

Rougeman, Cumans are up

Myth, Admiral Roberto cannot move next turn

[Myth]

I'm looking forward to pisting yet another elimination screen for a faction you lead Backstabbermonkey :)

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm looking forward to pisting yet another elimination screen for a faction you lead Backstabbermonkey :)

C'mon, I gave you fair warning this time, all those IC messages saying we'd be a war if we couldn't come to an agreement. Hardly a backstabbing!

And you were clearly preparing for it, why else are you sneaking your FM through Rus lands towards my northern border?

[Mithridate]

C'mon, I gave you fair warning this time, all those IC messages saying we'd be a war if we couldn't come to an agreement. Hardly a backstabbing!

And you were clearly preparing for it, why else are you sneaking your FM through Rus lands towards my northern border?
Now THIS i find interesting! Im lazy in this hotseat but ill have to check it out, location?

No Sicilian forces have been allowed to march on our lands! Myth

[Myth]

No sweat Phonics, I saw your two stacks sailing in one ship each north of the African coast. I've known for a while. I hope your guys brought their rubber duckies :smash:

I'm more aware of what's going on than you think.

[phonicsmonkey]

No sweat Phonics, I saw your two stacks sailing in one ship each north of the African coast. I've known for a while. I hope your guys brought their rubber duckies :smash:

I'm more aware of what's going on than you think.

I doubt that! I'm counting on your being fully aware

EDIT: and I should say I'm looking forward to fighting you again!

[Rougeman]

Zim

[RexLegend]

I know 48 hours are not up yet, but I'm wondering if Zim is able to do his turn by now...? Anyone has intel about that? Nightbringer?

[Zim]

Oddly, SS is the only of the mods/Kingdoms Campaigns that is not saving to some place outside my regular games folders so I'll be able to play England tonight.

[RexLegend]

In which drive you installed game? C: drive? According to my experiences, C: is quite troublesome.

[Zim]

C drive, although this is the first time I had a problem with it.

Save for Gaius Octavius Caesar

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10099

Also, an anomaly to report to phonicsmonkey One of my provinces in England itself (Mercia) shows on the minimap as belonging to poland (and shows white borders on the main map). I can recruit from it normally, build in it normally, and merge troops into it. Phonics, could you check my save and see if it shows that way for you as well?

[Rougeman]

this too happened to me in wrath of the khan, after a while i checked my saves, and i found that i had played the save during the late campaign, so that may have been your problem

[phonicsmonkey]

Save for Gaius Octavius Caesar

Did you send him a pm?

[Nigel]

Sent him a PM right now - just to be on the safe side.
Better more than needed than not enough. :D

[Nightbringer]

That thing always happens with england and poland. It is just a weird glitch and has no other effects aside from the minimap oddity.

[Zim]

Of course, I'm too old to rely on that newfangled @ stuff. ~;p


Did you send him a pm?

[Myth]

FYI Monkey wanted to trade settlements. I asked for the levante in return for N. Africa and he never contacted me untill he attacked me. So I've not betrayed my word.

[phonicsmonkey]

FYI Monkey wanted to trade settlements. I asked for the levante in return for N. Africa and he never contacted me untill he attacked me. So I've not betrayed my word.

I did not consider that a serious proposal, IC or OOC

OOC I don't think either of us has acted dishonourably

[Myth]

I could have hardly kept the levant if you had agreed to such a trade.

[phonicsmonkey]

I could have hardly kept the levant if you had agreed to such a trade.

True, but that would have meant me going back on my word, which I did not want to do.

I'm curious though, why would you agree to a deal like that if you believed I would betray it?

[Myth]

First it would have given me the moral high-ground versus you, for RP purposes but also to ensue you get more enemies than you know what to do with. No one wants such a huge faction to be their neighbour if they are proven traitors.

Second, you would have to move a lot of armies to the east to reconquer the Holy Lands, and this is lead battles. You being a cautious player would mean I'd get a few turns of trade from there + the option to sneak some stacks around, take other settlements, sack or even remove some of your own stacks. Overall you'd be bogged down reconquering your own lands.

Also, I'd have a massive staging point form Italy, where retaking the African lands would take but a few turns, since I have the bulk of my forces concentrated in one strong front. Plus, there was always the option of you keeping your word.

[Nigel]

Hmmm, phonicsmonkey, are we going to wait for Gaius Octavius Caesar or shall we move on?

[phonicsmonkey]

Hmmm, phonicsmonkey, are we going to wait for Gaius Octavius Caesar or shall we move on?

Let's give him a little more time. I'm here all day so I'll pm him and skip the turn later if he doesn't show up.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Hey, thanks for the extension guys, it was really bad timing in the Easter..

Anyway, Moors up.

http://www.2shared.com/file/BBaju82e/MoT-Moors-T11.html

[slysnake]

bump...

[Nightbringer]

Hey slysnake, I'm waiting on you and RexLegend to pledge that you will honor the one turn peace agreement. :)

Otherwise....

[slysnake]

Hey slysnake, I'm waiting on you and RexLegend to pledge that you will honor the one turn peace agreement. :)

Otherwise....

Has Rex not messaged you yet?? Don't get me wrong but I think he said 'yes'...

[phonicsmonkey]

By the way chaps this truce of yours does not apply to the Fatimids....just to be clear

[Nightbringer]

Has Rex not messaged you yet?? Don't get me wrong but I think he said 'yes'...

Sorry, I got that too, I just wanted to be clear that this wasn't just a Moors don't attack for a turn thing, but a "I don't want to pull a surprise attack so we can both have a turn to prepare so we start from even ground next turn."

[Nightbringer]

With war now declared between The Moorish Sultanate and the Kingdoms of Scandinavia and Swabia, let it be known that the Sultan ordered his forces to hold back from seizing Antwerp and Strazbourg so that the war may begin on an even and fair footing. The Sultan firmly believes that his honorable foes will not take advantage of this honorable move, and shall abide by the agreement that they may gather their forces so as to be prepared for war, but shall strike no blow against the moors this season, just as the Moors refrained from doing.
lithuania up! Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10117

[Nigel]

5271

Well, at last the long and tense silence breaks.

Mithridate , Kiev is up.

[Mithridate]

Kwaz slysnake

[phonicsmonkey]

Kwaz slysnake

I trust you guys not to sneak a look at my borders by peeking at the Kwaz turn...

[Nightbringer]

The kingdoms of Scandinavia and Swabia have shown their true colors, and have immediately declared that they shall not honor the one season truce. Many good moorish soldiers shall fall because of their treachery, but the world shall be their judge.

As to their claims that the Moors broke the peace. Yes, we have moved troops into position for the war to begin, but that was the purpose of the truce, to allow both sides to take positions, rather than to have Moorish troops simply attack without warning. Well, we shall see if their treachery can give them the edge they shall so greatly need in the coming war.

[phonicsmonkey]

Myth, slysnake - you realise this war we're embarking on is a replay of the 2nd world war

I am the british in egypt, NB is the US in algiers and france.

Myth is Mussolini and sly that makes you......:devil:

[Nightbringer]

Well, I think it is more like sly and rex combined are... :)

[RexLegend]

We have different visions of "truce". One does not simply march into enemy territory before war starts and especially when truce is on set. It's elemental, dear sir's. (According to my mind of course...):clown:

NB couldn't attack those fortified cities of Bern and Staufen. Not sure about Antwerp and Cologne, probably would had fallen. Nice try though!
I personally would had left Moors to have some jolly time before declaring war... But well, no-one gives a cookie anymore since we have become as "bad guys" :P

[Nightbringer]

Hah, I could indeed attack those settlements. I had siege equipment within range and could have captured them, but as I had hoped this war might be more of a formality than a fight to the death, I offered a chance to fight no equal terms. Yes, some of my troops crossed just over the border, but they held back from doing any damage. Additionally, you were the first to breach border rights. The moors complied with your request to remove all agents from your territory, but you did not do the same, but kept your spies spread throughout our lands. We know you did this.

I hardly think that stepping a just over the border in the middle of the mountains can be called a breach of a treaty to allow fair preparation for war in the following season. This was not a deal to maintain the niceties of friends, but to allow for fair preparation. Allowing both sides to move troops into advantageous positions was the purpose o this agreement. You are simply grasping at straws so that you can attempt to claim legitimacy in breaking your sworn oath.


OOC, I really didn't intend to be doing anything against it, I think we had different ideas of what the treaty meant though. As for not feeling a need for war, you are the one who declared it. The Moors asked for peace, and you refused,

[slysnake]

Sicily! Myth http://www.sendspace.com/file/grusic

As you all may have already guessed, my turn mostly consisted of...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W_u4UTvk9w

[Nightbringer]

lol! I hope so. I'm sure that this will be a good fight though. In OOC, I look forward to it, and good luck to you! (just not too much luck)

[Myth]

Where did I put my Holy Hand-grenade?

Denmark up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10124). RexLegend

So, being attacked by the Fatamids and Moors in unison. No IC reason for the Moors to do so but whatever. So many navies and armies, i really hope the other fronts are weakened because of them.

A good thing to note is that the majority of the Muslim armies are crude spear milita units that suck gold away and die horribly versus elites even when the latter are AI lead. Come now, and meet my men of steel. See how your turban wearing peasants fare against them.

Oh, and that navy consisting of three Fatamid ships has been defeated and can't move net turn.

[Nightbringer]

What do you mean no IC reason? My IC reason is exactly the same as that of the Fatimids, I simply let them handle the negotiations.

[Myth]

You knew from the start I'd never give Africa away without a trade. I said we can resume negotiations after the ERE is gone, I never promised I'd give you or them these lands after the war. But you know what'd be funny? If I gave one or the other all my African holdings in exchange for peace and an alliance. Since both of you want them, what would you do? Plus, Monkey still holds Jerusalem so he is closer to winning than you are.

If I gave him these provinces to "return them to the Muslim fold" then what will the Moors do? You'll have to fight him sooner or later if you want to win :laugh4:

[Nightbringer]

Tunisia and west would go to me, but if you handed those over, and you and your allies were willing, I would sign peace.

[Myth]

And would you sit idly by, watching as we maul the Fatamids into oblivion?

[Nightbringer]

No, I had thought you meant we all make peace.

[Myth]

So basically I give you 1/3 of my kingdom to get everyone in peace so that you can raise better armies and larger fleets and attack me or my allies later?

[Nightbringer]

Who says I would attack later? But essentially yes. We demand North Africa, but have no reason to fight you if you give it up.

[Myth]

I rather think it necessary if this game will end at all.

[RexLegend]

Fatimid turn! (http://www.upload.ee/files/2298324/MoT-12-Fatimids.rar.html) phonicsmonkey

Tough turn...

Nightbringer : Curses on you for being careful putting armies on right tilts :P

I think slysnake forgot to mention that Scandinavia and Swabia have declared war on Poland to take certain territories from them. I suggest Poland to contact with us if he wants peace.
Took over Poland's fort and seized Wroclaw.

Declared war on Zim 's England since he didn't respond to my diplomatic message. Conquered Aberdeen and Bruges. Took out another English almost-full-stacked fort. Happy searching guys!

Will post something in diplomacy thread soon.

Happy hunting monkey! :)

EDIT: Oh right, some fleets were sunk. Just sayin'

[Nigel]

Whow, a lot of action starting.

And just now I will be traveling for a couple of days and not return until Tuesday evening.

Probably my turn won't come up until then, but if it does, I will be happy for Mithridate to sub me as usual.
GL and HF during the weekend, guys.

[Nightbringer]

Nightbringer : Curses on you for being careful putting armies on right tilts :P


You didn't really think I would trust you? Did you? I take it then that no Moorish armies were destroyed?

[RexLegend]

You didn't really think I would trust you? Did you? I take it then that no Moorish armies were destroyed?

Answer is no for both questions. Have a nice turn!

[Nightbringer]

No meaning no armies destroyed, or as in no, I did in fact destroy armies. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to be patient.

[phonicsmonkey]

On the subject of patience, I just wanted to let you guys know that I have started playing the turn but might need another couple of days to finish it as I'm only home for about an hour or so a day at the moment. Hope you don't mind me taking an extension!

[Zim]

Perfidious Danes. Having troops ready to swoop on Aberdeen says enough about their intentions, though.

I didn't answer the pm yet because things have been busy in real life. Also, why waste words trying to prevent an already planned attack. Better to settle it on the battle field. :charge:


Fatimid turn! (http://www.upload.ee/files/2298324/MoT-12-Fatimids.rar.html) phonicsmonkey

Tough turn...

Nightbringer : Curses on you for being careful putting armies on right tilts :P

I think slysnake forgot to mention that Scandinavia and Swabia have declared war on Poland to take certain territories from them. I suggest Poland to contact with us if he wants peace.
Took over Poland's fort and seized Wroclaw.

Declared war on Zim 's England since he didn't respond to my diplomatic message. Conquered Aberdeen and Bruges. Took out another English almost-full-stacked fort. Happy searching guys!

Will post something in diplomacy thread soon.

Happy hunting monkey! :)

EDIT: Oh right, some fleets were sunk. Just sayin'

[phonicsmonkey]

Ok, found a chance to finish things on this turn.

slysnake, Admiral Tusco cannot move or be attacked next turn

also, I see a lot of ballistae in your forts and settlements - just a reminder that according to the rules these cannot open the gates of anything, even forts...

Myth, Admiral Roberto cannot move next turn

Rougeman, Cumans are up!

[slysnake]

bump...

[RexLegend]

Rougeman
phonicsmonkey

[phonicsmonkey]

Skipped, sorry Rougeman but the show must go on

Zim, Ingerlund is up

[Zim]

Noble Poland, also besset by the Heathen Danes (if I understand correctly) is up.

Gaius Octavius Caesar

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10138

Denmark's fleet at York has been driven away and may not move on their next turn.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

EDIT: The swabians were defeated in two bloody battles.

Moors up!
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21662409/MoT-Moors-12.sav

[Nightbringer]

A glorious season. Bern, Strasbourg, Frankfurt, Antwerp, Ajaccio, and that wooden settlement in North Africa all fell to the glorious forces of the Moors. Additionally, the Sicilian fleet lurking near Sardinia was wiped out.

Lithuania up! Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10141

[slysnake]

EDIT: deleted :P

[RexLegend]

Zim
And to add up, which Strasbourg you are talking of? If I recall correct, there is no "Strasbourg" named city on SS map...

[Nightbringer]

Zim
And to add up, which Strasbourg you are talking of? If I recall correct, there is no "Strasbourg" named city on SS map...

I must be remembering the name wrong. It is the castle just above Bern in the Alps.

[Zim]

What's up?


Zim
And to add up, which Strasbourg you are talking of? If I recall correct, there is no "Strasbourg" named city on SS map...

[RexLegend]

What's up?
Sorry, my bad. Somehow managed to confuse you as Moors and Nightbringer as England. Silly mistake... :clown:

[Nigel]

Kiev is up Mithridate

5474

[Mithridate]

slysnake ur up phonicsmonkey wrote u an in game reply, your attack on Kiev have been met with force.

Due to the sircomstances, we do not yet view us to be at war.
Your coming actions will decide if that shall change or not.

[phonicsmonkey]

slysnake ur up phonicsmonkey wrote u an in game reply, your attack on Kiev have been met with force.

Due to the sircomstances, we do not yet view us to be at war.
Your coming actions will decide if that shall change or not.

Mithridate - If you beat my fleet you should let me know so I know not to move it

[Mithridate]

Sorry, but they where sunk so it should not be an issue^^

With the exception of ur one ship next to my port... I could check it out for you if you want, but im more than Ok if you move it.
phonicsmonkey will make sure to type it down in the future, that turn was chaotic for me -.-'

[slysnake]

My SS_Launcher.exe is refusing to start and yes, before you ask, I have already tried running SS_setup.exe again with no avail :P

Basically, when I click the .exe to run it, the little blue circle that appears when loading stuff appears next to my cursor for a second or two before disappearing. The disk doesn't even start to spin in the drive. All other .exe's on my system seem to work fine except this one, although I did do a windows update last night. Do you guys think that could be the cause of the problem?

[Nightbringer]

What version of windows are you using? Do you have admin privileges? If you have vista there is a thing, can't remember what it is called, but its a weird security thing, you have to turn off to run SS.

[RexLegend]

UAC?

[Nigel]

I remember having a difficult time with installing M2TW patch and mod.

Here is the link to my trials and tribulations, including a summary of how I got it to work in the end.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?138643-Problem-patching-M2TW-Kingdoms-(Gold-Edition)-to-patch-1-05

[Nightbringer]

UAC?

Yes, thats what I was talking about! thank rex!

[slysnake]

Yes, thats what I was talking about! thank rex!

Unfortunately, that didn't seem to work... I don't get any error message as such - there is just the loading icon next to the cursor for a second or two then it disappears and nothing starts.. >.<..

UPDATE: Ok, I'v reinstalled Kingdoms and disabled UAC, but the problem still persists. One thing I have noticed though is that when the loading icon disappears, kingdoms.exe appears to be under 'processes' in the task manager, but it is not accessible..

[slysnake]

UPDATE 2: This morning I was going to try a short-term solution to the problem - play the turn on my laptop. But, just my luck, it fails to launch there to. Instead of the game simply not loading, the disk starts to spin but then it crashes to a BSOD, great..

[slysnake]

UPDATE 3: After leaving my computer for about half an hour, two error messages have appeared, probably from the two times I attempted to run SS:

5544

[slysnake]

Problem solved - had to reinstall Medieval 2 >.>..

Sicily up! Myth http://www.sendspace.com/file/rvhpct

[Myth]

Danes up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10153) RexLegend

[Ignoramus]

A glorious season. Bern, Strasbourg, Frankfurt, Antwerp, Ajaccio, and that wooden settlement in North Africa all fell to the glorious forces of the Moors. Additionally, the Sicilian fleet lurking near Sardinia was wiped out.


Ouch, I'm glad Genoa got sacked by Christians... :laugh4:

[Nightbringer]

Ouch, I'm glad Genoa got sacked by Christians... :laugh4:
Hey iggy, long time no see!

How's it goin?

In any case, I'm glad to finally be avenging you. I never thought it was necessary for them to kill you off. :) Of course, if I manage to sack Genoa myself it sure won't be helping your people any. XD

[RexLegend]

Fatimids (http://www.upload.ee/files/2347056/MoT-13-Fatimids.rar.html) phonicsmonkey

Slightly dizzy *hiccup* when completed turn.:medievalcheers: I can not allow myself the luxury of asking extension :)
Zim and NB, remember, no attacking Admiral Ragnar in North Sea since poor fleet was defeated last turn...
Re-took Frankfurt with spy. Inverness was pain for my poor head. Another English King is dead, dying alone in Edingburgh Castle.
Also, era of biological warfare has begun... :end:

I'm actually slowly losing interest to game since it's running slowly. I'm not willing to give it away though :)

[Myth]

Ouch, I'm glad Genoa got sacked by Christians... :laugh4:

It was occupied, good sir!

[phonicsmonkey]

Cumans are up, Rougeman

slysnake, Admiral Guilelmo cannot move next turn (that's your big fleet)

I feel like Silvershield, with his knack of taking out huge armies with just a couple of horses, could have done more with this turn than I did....

[slysnake]

Cumans are up, Rougeman

slysnake, Admiral Guilelmo cannot move next turn (that's your big fleet)

I feel like Silvershield, with his knack of taking out huge armies with just a couple of horses, could have done more with this turn than I did....

I assume you are referring to our little confrontation in Greece and the Balkans? ;)

[phonicsmonkey]

I assume you are referring to our little confrontation in Greece and the Balkans? ;)

Amongst other things, yes

By the way this turn I took Arta and Scopia. It'd be great if everyone else could post their conquests like this so we can all keep track of what's happening in between our turns.

[Rougeman]

Zim

[RexLegend]

Bump Zim

[Zim]

Things are a bit hectic in real life at the moment, although there is an end in sight (end of the month). Any chance Nightbringer would be able to sub?

[Nightbringer]

Sure, i can sub tonight. :)

[Nightbringer]

Zim, I will need the password though :)

[Nightbringer]

poland up!
Gaius Octavius Caesar

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10171

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Nightbringer

Moors up
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21742362/MoT-Moors-13.sav

[Nightbringer]

Nigel
lithuania up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10172

Cologne, Bern, Genoa, Pisa, Cagliari, and Tunis captured. Also had a very tough battle to beat that army west of Bern, and destroyed a Sicilian army northwest of Genoa.

[Nigel]

Kiev up.
Mithridate

5614

[Mithridate]

Another turn of peace for the people

Ur up slysnake

[slysnake]

Sicily! Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx9etn

[Nigel]

Hi guys,

since Phonicsmonkey is extremely busy at the moment, looking after Baby Monkey, he has asked me if I could keep an eye on this thread. I promised him that I would do my best to help and do what is necessary to move it along.

With that, Myth, please be reminded, that your turn is due. Will you be able to play it?
Alternatively, slysnake or RexLegend, would one of you be able to sub Myth this evening?

If not, I will try to do it myself tomorrow.
Hope, this will helpt the game to continute to move forward.

[RexLegend]

I'm badly ill, so I'm out. Doesn't mean I leave my game to someone else's hands. Too much on stake :P

[slysnake]

Could Myth have a 48 hour extension? His turn is, I'm assuming, going to pretty important for both him and his allies so naturally, it would be best for him to play it. Alternatively, I DO know his password so if it comes to it I can sub and play his turn :P

[Myth]

I will play it today, sorry for the delay.

Being blitzed by the two largest factions on the map doesn't give me much breathing room. Still, one Moorish fleet sunk. But NB is coming at me hard, 2 full stacks in Italy, 3 or 4 in Africa and the islands. The Fatties are full of fleets and armies, but Phonics is away atm hence their delay. I'll fight until the end though, this game is fun for me!

Danes up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10178) RexLegend

[Nigel]

Glad you were able to do it, Myth.

Rex, sorry to hear about your illness. All the best and get well soon (lots of vitamines, healthy food and rest :nurse: ).

You have 2 days for your turn, but if you need an extension, let us know. I am sure that no one will object.

[RexLegend]

My condition has gone worse, so I was able to do somewhat crucial part. I'm forwarding unfinished turn to slysnake

EDIT: Stainless Steel on main PC has stopped working completely, popping up "Fatal Error" crap. Had to move on laptop.

[slysnake]

My condition has gone worse, so I was able to do somewhat crucial part. I'm forwarding unfinished turn to slysnake

EDIT: Stainless Steel on main PC has stopped working completely, popping up "Fatal Error" crap. Had to move on laptop.

RexLegend messaged me and said he should be able to play his turn tomorrow :)

[slysnake]

Ok, RexLegend is still not feeling great today so I subbed his turn. Fatimids up, phonicsmonkey!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cx6s4b

[Nightbringer]

Sorry to hear you are so ill rex, and hope you get well soon!