Official Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim thread!

[rajpoot]

My rig will probably blow up if I tried something like that.

@thefluffyone93
Went to the mine. Got enough ebony. Thanks.

[Veho Nex]

My rig will probably blow up if I tried something like that.


I just ordered my new computer last night, I wanna play this maxed out, right now I can only go med-high

[Ronin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4z9TdDCWN7g

amazing...

now I gotta go play more Skyrim!

[Vladimir]

Her face is so close to the camera that I always smile when she says "Dragonborn comes".

Yea.

[Lemur]

Too much reverb. She has a lovely voice; no need to gild the proverbial lily.

Meanwhile, Zero Punctuation (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5020-The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim) has as close to a positive review as Yahtzee ever gets. Warning: Zero Punctuation pretty much always contains some sort of obscenity. Not safe for work, grandma, or smallish children.

[Vladimir]

Minecraft was almost positive too. It all came down to having a plan before you start.

[lars573]

Too much reverb. She has a lovely voice; no need to gild the proverbial lily.

Meanwhile, Zero Punctuation (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5020-The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim) has as close to a positive review as Yahtzee ever gets. Warning: Zero Punctuation pretty much always contains some sort of obscenity. Not safe for work, grandma, or smallish children.
I have zero respect for his reviews since he nakedly trolled in his War for Cybertron review.

[rajpoot]

I have zero respect for his reviews since he nakedly trolled in his War for Cybertron review.

I doubt people watch his reviews for fair judgement of the games. His reviews are funny though, and that is why I always watch them.

[lars573]

But the kind of trolling he did for that one I find to be quite vulgar, and not funny.

[easytarget]

The joke is still entirely on you regardless if you take anything Zero says seriously.

[naut]

The joke is still entirely on you regardless if you take anything Zero says seriously.
Yatzee plays a caricature of himself in those vids. He often likes the games he is taking the mickey out of. However, his point is that there is no perfect game, and he points out the flaws accordingly.

[easytarget]

Yep, just punching holes in a very immature medium with comedy. If I'd been around and paying attention at the start of cinema or literature I'm sure there were folks doing the same thing.

These aren't game reviews he's doing people. ;)

[lars573]

The joke is still entirely on you regardless if you take anything Zero says seriously.
I take no internet reviewer seriously. I STILL take issue with that kind of trolling, joke or otherwise.

[Lemur]

This arrow to the knee (http://www.ranker.com/list/the-very-best-of-the-skyrim-_arrow-in-the-knee_-meme/robert-wabash) thing is getting out of hand.

[naut]

This arrow to the knee (http://www.ranker.com/list/the-very-best-of-the-skyrim-_arrow-in-the-knee_-meme/robert-wabash) thing is getting out of hand.
I agree 140%.

Personally I prefered the guy in Windhelm who used to be a soldier, but then he took a sword in the gut.

[johnhughthom]

I agree 140%.

Personally I prefered the guy in Windhelm who used to be a soldier, but then he took a sword in the gut.

Was it one of those curved swords? CURVED SWORDS.

[Lemur]

No comment:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/ArrowToTheKnee.jpg

[LeftEyeNine]

https://i.imgur.com/QypP2.jpg

[Hamata]

nice one

[thefluffyone93]

Maybe I'm smarter because I know cats can be bats can be rats can be hats can be gnats can be thats can be thises.

WABBAJACK.

[Veho Nex]

You guys are all just milk drinkers.

[LeftEyeNine]

You can actually FUS RO DAH! now. (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3251)

[Divine Wind]

You guys are all just milk drinkers.

Whats wrong, did someone steal your sweetroll?

[rajpoot]

You can actually FUS RO DAH! now. (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3251)


Niiiice find :thumbsup:

I just have to get my mic port repaired now....

[tibilicus]

What's the actual point of Dragon smithing when Daedric Armour has better stats?

[rajpoot]

What's the actual point of Dragon smithing when Daedric Armour has better stats?

I'm guessing they were trying to keep a balance between the old and new.
Daedric armour has traditionally been the strongest in all TES games to date, AFAIK. To nerf that in favour of dragon armour wouldn't have made much sense.
But on the other hand Dragon Armour is nearly as good, and has a different look to it (one I don't much like BTW...the helmet's cool, but everything is else is too boney).

Anyway none of it matters. With enough points in smithing and a few well chosen items with smithing-fortifying enchantments on them you can eaisly reach the armour level cap, even with Orcish or Steel plate.

Personally I wish that they should've made the Draugr armour look cooler. It's got a really nice looking helmet and everything else looks like leather and fur.

[LeftEyeNine]

Skyrim HD textures (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=607#content) change your game a lot.

However if you ever decide to give that a go, do not forget to use Skyrim 4GB (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013) so that 4GB of a virtual memory could be allocated to your Skyrim as well as -afterwards- adding iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=3000000000 under [Papyrus] in your Skyrim.ini file that is located at My Games\Skyrim.

[Beskar]

What's the actual point of Dragon smithing when Daedric Armour has better stats?

Other than being lighter, Dragon Armour is far easier to get the mats for.

[naut]

Other than being lighter, Dragon Armour is far easier to get the mats for.
Looks better.

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Shout mod is excellent. I often get the wrong shout, but it does own.

[Monk]

Other than being lighter, Dragon Armour is far easier to get the mats for.

I do enjoy genres wherein making suits out of my enemies is considered socially acceptable.

[LeftEyeNine]

Oh in addition to Skyrim HD Textures, these complement best:

Vurt's Flora (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=141)

Lush Trees (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3385)

I should reiterate that in case you use these mods Skyrim 4GB (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013) is a must to evade crashes and purple textures problems.

ATI users are advised to turn off AA and AF from the game and use ATI CCC to apply such settings. It indeed allows a drastic FPS incrase especially after patching the game with the Hi-Res texture packs above.

Nvidia users (I'm not one) are told to tweak to certain configurations via a tool called Nvidia Inspector (http://downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-Inspector-1.94-download-2612.html) as instructed here (http://uk.geforce.com/optimise/guides/five-fast-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-tweaks-guaranteed-to-make-your-game-look-even-better).

The game is over-dull with its original textures. No wonder why we were amazed at the smoothness of the graphics maxed out. Textures are too light to create any burden on a good rig although top notch is switched.

[naut]

Those HD textures look great. But, my machine is just barely doing the job with the graphics as they currently are. And my machine is pretty decent... so I think I'll give those a miss for now... =P

TBH, the game runs like poop on my machine. No idea why. Every other game I have runs fine. (AMD Phenom II x6 OC 3.5Ghz [down-clocking to default specs doesn't help], HD5870, 8gb RAM) I consistently get about 25fps on anything above medium settings. :shrug:


Hmmm. OCing down and back up to 3.5Ghz seems to have done the trick. Runs beautifully. I knew it was CPU bound, but didn't realise how much so.

[LeftEyeNine]

For those looking to push their monster rig further and enhance Skyrim visuals even further should try out ENBSeries (http://enbdev.com/download_en.htm).

Make sure you have a top notch gfx card though.

[naut]

Make sure you have a top notch gfx card though.
TBH. CPU is more important for Skyrim. It is bound to 2 cores, performance on anything below an solid i5 or heavily oced AMD rig is not great.

[LeftEyeNine]

I've read that the game is heavily CPU-bound however I doubt it's the same about post-processing injections, e.g. SSAO, like ENBSeries do. Are you sure, matey ?

[Lemur]

[P]erformance on anything below an solid i5 or heavily oced AMD rig is not great.
Depends on how you're defining "not great"; I've been playing on a lightly OCed Core 2 Duo E6600, and I'm doing just fine. I was chuffed when one of the Skyrim team's patch notes talked about optimizing for Core 2 Duo performance. They like me! They really, really like me!

[LeftEyeNine]

Lads, lads...

Here is what we were looking for.

UP FOR GRABS (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/23/a-smoother-skyrim-for-christmas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rockpapershotgun%2Fsteam+%28Rock%2C+Paper%2C+Shotgun%3A+Steam+RSS%29).

[naut]

Thanks for the link LEN, I'll give it a whirl.


Depends on how you're defining "not great";
My definition of "not great" is ultra settings at 1080p running at a stuttery 25fps. Which, yes, is a little different from many other's definitions. However, if a game is pretty, I want it at it's prettiest.

[LeftEyeNine]

Please report back about (non-existent) benefits, Psychonaut.

[naut]

Ok. Tested.

Settings:

1080p
AAx8
AFx8
Textures=High
Radial Blur=low (personal preference, I hate radial and motion blur in any and every game)
Shadows=High (ultra has minimal improvement for the fps hit)
Decals=Ultra
FXAA=On
Reflect=All
View Distance=Max
Distant Objects=Medium

Testing Area:

Markarth, probably the most visually demanding area in the game. A good combination of NPCs, ambient activity, water and distant objects. Starting from the entrance, looping to the left, up to Understone Keep, to the Guard Tower, round to Vlindrell and back to the entrance. A place where my fps was always average at best.


Without Tweak:

Max fps: 43
Avg fps: ~35
Min fps: 19

Minimum was reached at the entrance to Vlindrell, with the view of the valley, the city and three waterfalls dropping fps.


With Tweak:

Max fps: 45
Avg fps: ~35
Min fps: 21

Overall, it made a minor difference. The minimum occurred in the same spot, and a 2fps gain there. It seems to make a difference, but it would probably be more pronounced on a weaker rig.

[Drunk Clown]

All of this is exactly why I bought the Xbox 360 Version. Moderate load times, no frame-rate issues. :2thumbsup:

But you are ****ed harder when you encounter bugs :)

[LeftEyeNine]

All of this is exactly why I bought the Xbox 360 Version. Moderate load times, no frame-rate issues. :2thumbsup:

With even more dumbed-down textures, it must be a joy to behold, mate. :2thumbsup:

[Vuk]

Vine grow and twine,
Green and curl. Choke and bind;
Leaves unfurled. Formsie spine;
Tumble wall. Wreath and vine,
Cover all, Leafsie mine.
Call the vine!
Call the Green!
Bringsie forth world be seen!

Storm black, and blow
Swirly gusts! Rain! Winds flow,
Pushing dust. Storm Clouds grow
Darksie. Clouds lightning throw;
Misty shroud; freezie snow
Call the Storm!
Call the gray!
Bringsie forth world's old way!

Flame, burning heat!
Fences charred blazie sheet.
Blackened tar manflesh meat!
Melting gears dance and leap,
Manfool's fear come to reap!
Call the fire!
Call the red!
Bringsie forth past not dead!

Tide rise and fall.
River flood, rain and squall,
Churning mud. Dam, break all
Sea waves wash swampy Squall
Sewer slosh drain pipes stall
Call the wave
Call the blue
Bringsie forth world anew!

Stone grind and quake.
Shatter tile! Columns shake
Brick unpile! Chip and flake!
Darky soil; Windows break!
Earthy toil; wall unmake!
Call earth!
Call the brown!
Bringsie back world thrown down!

Night smother light
Black break lamp! Done with bright.
Dew and damp smother tight.
Dark, and hide foolsie sight.
Stay inside fear the night!
Call the dark!
Call the Black!
Bringsie forth; I call it back!

Open for me
Open to me
Open my way
Open the path
Open for me
Open

[Centurion1]

just got for 360.

holy *******************

im tempted to swear because it deserves it.

[Centurion1]

what doesnt deserve it is me buying a game for a 360 that freezes twice in the space of thirty minutes. seriously lower the graphics a little before you allow that.

[Centurion1]

hasnt for a couple hours which eases me.

this game is gorgeous will weigh in more tmmrw.

happy holidays yall

[rajpoot]

I gotta say, this one is certainly more immersive than any of the other Elder Scrolls games. I picked a big tough Nord Warrior guy for a character, and I'm currently following the Stormcloak storyline. Its pretty sweet. I don't recall caring one whit about Oblivion's storyline after it became apparent that I was, in fact, going to have to go into all of those damned irritating Oblivion gates.

Ahh I did the same thing until one particular story mission which made me realise that Stormcloak is indeed the 'less-good' way to pick. That made me feel so distressed I started the game again from an older save losing over three days worth of gameplay.

Speak to the mage in Solitude's court. That's an eye opener.
And infiltrate the Thalmor Embassy. Even bigger proof there.

[Centurion1]

im usually a steath bow guy but i too chose a nord warrior using a massive two hander. i feel distressingly over powered though tbh.

[Hamata]

I'm more of a warrior charector then battle mage etc

ps what's your favorite race in the game mines kajite or how ever you spell it

[thefluffyone93]

Sneak overpowered? Meh.

How bout an Orc with a 100 in smithing, conjuration, heavy armor, and one-handed?
A tank like that with full legendary Daedric Armor is tough to kill, as is the two storm Atronachs I can summon at once!

[Centurion1]

sneak friendly classes but maybe redguard overall.

[Greyblades]

Sneak overpowered? Meh.

How bout an Orc with a 100 in smithing, conjuration, heavy armor, and one-handed?
A tank like that with full legendary Daedric Armor is tough to kill, as is the two storm Atronachs I can summon at once!

Its a pity the max armour rating makes any armour more advanced than ebony pretty redundant.

[Drunk Clown]

On which difficulty do you play? I assure you; playing it on master isn't easy.

[Centurion1]

adept difficult enough for me so far,


annoyed right now.
big glitch lost an hours worth of gameplay because in the way of the voice ive encountered a game breaker. cannot get master einkrah (spelling is off sorry) to teach me the second word the symbol just sits on the ground. DAMN

Edit; and then i kid you not i turned back to the game after typing this and it immediately froze on me.

[Centurion1]

no this is glitch. i didnt get some of the dialgue and it didnt go through with it.

ive gotten other words

[Tuuvi]

adept difficult enough for me so far,


annoyed right now.
big glitch lost an hours worth of gameplay because in the way of the voice ive encountered a game breaker. cannot get master einkrah (spelling is off sorry) to teach me the second word the symbol just sits on the ground. DAMN

Edit; and then i kid you not i turned back to the game after typing this and it immediately froze on me.

When you're playing I think it's a good idea to save often and have multiple saves in case you get a bug like that or you encounter an unbeatable enemy you can't run away from.

[Centurion1]

yeah i try to sleep after every fight and save relatively often but sometimes you just get caught up in the game

[Centurion1]

Another thing I'm just starting to admire is the way this game encourages role playing. If you haven't slept in awhile, people will encourage you to go to an inn. If you sleep, you get a bonus towards skill-learning for 8 hours. And by hanging around the Inns you can find all kinds of quests and random fun. And if you're sick, the people will say "You look sick." Sometimes that's the only indication, until the effects start showing up as the disease progresses.

There's a ton of stuff to love about this game. I especially like the Radiant Quest system. It's perhaps the most seemless and enjoyable RPG experience i've had in a long while.


its true about role play. i am playing a two handed nord and it just feels so..... right.

also as an aside easily the best main quest in any elder scrolls game so far (just got horn of jurgen)

Edit2: seriously though the glitches and bugs are horrible in the 360 version. yet again unable to complete the quest to learnt he final word of unrelenting force. this time the dragon writing doesnt even show up when he says it on the ground and it just sort of ends; luckily i have saves available.

[Centurion1]

is it just me or does this game take up an epic amount of space...... one save and 23mb deep.... how much will it take?

[Drunk Clown]

It's too bad that due to some thing I can't get well rested or sick anymore :P

Anyways, I suggest to notch the difficulty up to expert (not master! that's just masochism) it makes it IMHO more enjoyable if you beat someone/something.

[Centurion1]

yeah i think im going to on my next playthrough.....

only lvl 13 though right now!

wow..... new favorite armor for all of elder scrolls?

steel plate. sexy as hell. it is going to be a struggle updating anytihng over. absolutely gorgeous

[thefluffyone93]

It's too bad that due to some thing I can't get well rested or sick anymore :P

You become a werewolf?

[lars573]

Gotta stand right on top of the word. All words work like that--you just get close enough, and it'll happen. I've done that part twice with no problems.

It's the not knowing whether or not each loading screen is going to crash the game that's killing me. Shoulda spent the extra money on an Xbox 360 with a harddrive, so I could install it and see if that fixes it a bit.
The HDD ability to install games makes it well worth the cash outlay. I bought it separately for my 360 2.0 and have not regrets. My Skyrim game does hang a bit on loading, but has yet to lock-up.

[Drunk Clown]

You become a werewolf?

Yup, never use it though. Only plus is that you can move very quickly and the immunity for deceases.

[thefluffyone93]

Yup, never use it though. Only plus is that you can move very quickly and the immunity for deceases.

Being a werewolf removes the ability to gain the Well Rested bonus and contract diseases.
I dunno about not getting poisoned though. You an argonian?
Or did you get an item that increases resistance to poison?

[lars573]

It turns out most of them weren't freezes, I was just impatient. I refused to believe that loading times could be over two minutes, but apparently they are. Guess I need a Hard Drive!

That said, this game is amazing. After trying a few characters just to get the hang of it, I finally settled on a Redgaurd Fighter-Mage guy. I'm now level 13, and I've got a badass suit of enchanted Elven Armor. Also, the Mage College quest line is fantastic--absolutely worth checking out, even if you don't like the Magic aspect. In fact, the whole story feels very Wheel of Time-ish, and I like it.

Also, Bound Blades are awesome if you get the Perks.. especially if mixed with some magic, dual wielding, and one-handed perks.
I haven't done anything but the main quest (and 1 side quest) yet. I'm gonna break off when I get the Dragonrend shout. Then I can deal with random dragon encounters better.

[Drunk Clown]

Being a werewolf removes the ability to gain the Well Rested bonus and contract diseases.
I dunno about not getting poisoned though. You an argonian?
Or did you get an item that increases resistance to poison?

Nope I'm a Dark Elf. Don't know about poison; though do not recall being poisoned. You can get poisoned by those spiders, can't you?

[thefluffyone93]

yep

[Greyblades]

steel plate. sexy as hell. it is going to be a struggle updating anytihng over. absolutely gorgeousOh yes, I love it, though I dont really like the fur pelt they stuck on the groin area.

Fortunately if you can upgrade it to legendary the whole max armour rating thing makes it as strong as daedric.

[Lemur]

new favorite armor for all of elder scrolls?

steel plate. sexy as hell. it is going to be a struggle updating anytihng over. absolutely gorgeous
Ebony is sexy as well, but Daedric is too much for my aesthetics. My Nord looks like something from a hair metal band or a Gwar concert.

From what I've heard, though, you hit some sort of max armor level or something like that, so you can take your steel plate all the way to level 50. Can somebody explain that to me?

[rajpoot]

Ebony is sexy as well, but Daedric is too much for my aesthetics. My Nord looks like something from a hair metal band or a Gwar concert.

From what I've heard, though, you hit some sort of max armor level or something like that, so you can take your steel plate all the way to level 50. Can somebody explain that to me?

This should explain it better than I can. (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Armour#Armor_Cap)



Damage reduction is capped at 80%. If you are wearing all four pieces of armor, this occurs at 567 displayed armor rating. If you have 100 skill and all relevant armor perks, this requires a smithed armor rating of about 135. You can increase your smithed armor rating by 1 roughly every 2 points of Smithing with the appropriate perk, or every 4 without. Therefore, at 100 Smithing you will need 85 base armor with the appropriate perk, which is not achievable without a shield with Light Armor (though Dragonscale comes close at 82 for the set) and requires at least a Steel Plate set for Heavy Armor. With Fortify Smithing enchanted apparel and Smithing potions you can boost Smithing even further, which can potentially allow any material for which a Smithing perk exists to reach the cap. At the extreme end, you will need about 126 Smithing to make Steel Armor hit the cap, and about 154 Smithing for an Elven set. Unfortunately, Fur, Hide, Studded, Leather, and Iron armors are not affected by any Smithing perks and so cannot be improved as much.
With the aid of enchanting (fortify smithing) and pre-made enchanting and smithing potions, and of course the appropriate armor perks, you can reach the armor cap with any style or type of armor in the game, even hide and iron armor. All without even using a shield.
Shields, spells, and the Lord Stone (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Standing_Stone) can reduce the base armor required to hit the cap even further, but these require more management.

Basically, as I see it, if you can get a rating of 567 with an armour (possible, like the article says by using fortify smithing potions/enchantments.....remember you can keep improving armour even after legendary...even though it stays legendary, its rating increases), then you can use it happily.

[Centurion1]

started a new playthrough (was 20 on my nord two hander but i have restartitis and also am not a fan of melee builds) decided to mix it up and went with a breton mage. lol weight all they way to right so hes jacked as well.

magic was powerful until i upped the difficulty to master..... everything is so much more difficult now its insane.

[Centurion1]

i know lol im using light armor and one handed.

obv smithing is a go as always.

its just more difficult but i relish the actual difficulty now just killed whiterun dragon

[Centurion1]

this game takes up a heinous amount of space on the xbox.

i just lost my decade old profile (no recovery available) along with my current save. i had 12000 gamer score which is meaningless i know but it is of value to me.

look i like to pretend im a hardcore gamer and know alot about games and play for hours a day but i do not have the kind of money or willingness to spend said money on some things. i just have a cheap little memory unit that the xbox comes with and only have an arcade to begin with.

that being said I shouldnt NEED anymore than that to play this game.

very very angry and disappointed right now.

also i cant ever start new games because there is a ******* game breaking glitch where no one talks at all and so the ******* game never progresses and i never get out of the **********88 wagon to start and i have to try over and over again until it finally ******* works.

i freaking love this game but it just literally resulted in the loss of my beloved profile, lost my 48 hour save, and now i cannot even start a new game. Im so angry right now i cannot even think

/rant

[HopAlongBunny]

Ouch! Sorry to hear that Centurion1 You would think features like a profile would be stored in a separate cache or something.

I have read a lot about the game and I'm dieing to play it. Wait until the Construction Set and a player made "patch" or just dive in? Over at UESP they have documented a lot of the gamebreakers... would it be sufficient to just avoid the known bugs and hope I don't "discover something new?

[Centurion1]

yet another game breaking glitch and it may through all of my saves.......


once again because the ******* npcs wont talk and therefore the quest will not continue. i swear to god this will be the third lost character and ive already reverted to an earlier dave sacrificing five levels so ar but it appears to not be enough. DOES BETHESDA EVEN TEST THEIR ********* PRODUCTS

finally got it i lost five levels and two hours thanks to it. and immeadiately froze

edit2: nope i lied now iorleth wont talk. so i reload. and it freezes.

**** you bethesda.

[lars573]

yet another game breaking glitch and it may through all of my saves.......


once again because the ******* npcs wont talk and therefore the quest will not continue. i swear to god this will be the third lost character and ive already reverted to an earlier dave sacrificing five levels so ar but it appears to not be enough. DOES BETHESDA EVEN TEST THEIR ********* PRODUCTS

finally got it i lost five levels and two hours thanks to it. and immeadiately froze

edit2: nope i lied now iorleth wont talk. so i reload. and it freezes.

**** you bethesda.
This is what you call typical Bethesda game experience.

[Centurion1]

ive been appeased momentarily by two things

a. no more bugs today

b. i now have scimitars to dual wield and look like a complete bamf

[Drunk Clown]

yet another game breaking glitch and it may through all of my saves.......


once again because the ******* npcs wont talk and therefore the quest will not continue. i swear to god this will be the third lost character and ive already reverted to an earlier dave sacrificing five levels so ar but it appears to not be enough. DOES BETHESDA EVEN TEST THEIR ********* PRODUCTS

finally got it i lost five levels and two hours thanks to it. and immeadiately froze

edit2: nope i lied now iorleth wont talk. so i reload. and it freezes.

**** you bethesda.

And that's why you want to get it for the PC. With the console you can solve such annoyances.

[frogbeastegg]

It's the poor souls trying to play the game on a PS3 I feel for. Once your save game reaches a certain size the frame rate is forever reduced to unplayable levels. Speculation has it that it's a combination of how the PS3 shares its RAM, how the game keeps saved world data in RAM, and the fact the game saves the status of every single object you move forever instead of implementing some sort of reset that moves it back after X game days. "Sorry, you moved a few too many baskets and it's eating up the GPU's RAM. Start a new character." If that speculation is correct then a fix may not be possible as it would require some hefty engine re-writing. This in addition to the longest load times of any platform, and all the problems experienced by the other platforms.

[HopAlongBunny]

Early game's pretty stable, except for a few bugs that I haven't personally seen yet.

Sounds good!

I guess I'll just do what worked for Oblivion; save early, save often, and don't play too long w/o jumping out of the game for a bit. Even at it's most stable that game had some quirky surprises.

The Official Forum was informative; the most common complaint seemed to be that there is no way to be "good"/"heroic" in carrying out most of the quests. Certainly not game-breaking for me (if true) but a surprising oversight by Beth.

[Centurion1]

yeah instead of white or black there is quite a bit of grey in this which i tend to play. even when i try to be evil on a playthrough i just cant. i always console myself that this reflects well on my character.

[rajpoot]

I play on the PC, but have you tried simply uninstalling and reinstalling the game? Because if even the earlier saves are messed up it must be some problem that might've occurred with the installed files itself, and not just a bug.

[Centurion1]

Quick question for other Skyrim players:

How many of you have done the Companions questline? Did anyone else get a messed up camera, permanently, after the ceremony where you drink the were-wolf blood? I can't find anywhere on the 'net where this bug has been reproduced, but it permanently corrupted the character--even on early saves, the camera is permanently zoomed way the heck in. I was playing a Breton Sword/Shield guy. So if you bring a Breton to the companions, watch out.. and please post here if you have the same problem. Wanna make sure its not just me.

ive heard of this before actually im always looking up bugs as i encounter them so if i see the fix for this ill let you know. personally besides the freezes which i can live with to an extent (not long term though or i may get pissed) its the npcs not engaging me in conversation when they ar escripted too that kills me. bethesda needs to learn how to test their games i refuse to believe they have because there are way too many bugs that are heinously prevalent.

tbh all of these bugs and glitches are souring my experience to the point where my desire to play is shrinking.

[HopAlongBunny]

Took the plunge!

I find the controls a little clunky but I guess I'll get used to it. Need to see if one can map a lot of the clicking to a mouse or controller.

Graphics are nice but that's not what I play a game for; need to see if the story picks up.

I know I'm doing a lot wrong; Breton-sign of the Mage and I've killed everything with a mace so far :p Guess I better re-track to the first dungeon I passed and learn how combat really works :)

[Centurion1]

imperial is a good race the gold bonus is not something that can be replicated and its sizeable haha

[lars573]

Took the plunge!

I find the controls a little clunky but I guess I'll get used to it. Need to see if one can map a lot of the clicking to a mouse or controller.

Graphics are nice but that's not what I play a game for; need to see if the story picks up.

I know I'm doing a lot wrong; Breton-sign of the Mage and I've killed everything with a mace so far :p Guess I better re-track to the first dungeon I passed and learn how combat really works :)
For ES races in broadest storkes;

Pure Combat:
Nord
Orc
Redguard

Pure Magic:
High Elf

Pure stealth:
Kajit
Wood Elf

Magic/combat:
Breton
Dark Elf

Combat/stealth:
Argonian
Imperial (maybe)

The Imperials and the Argonians are the weakest races (in terms of bonuses). That said with some fore though and luck any race can succeed in most situations.

[Centurion1]

imperials bonus gold ability is filthy. none of the bonuses for any race are really super strong but that extra gold is very very noticeable. instead of say five gold you find 15. ive also seemed to find better loot overall and more gems.

[Vuk]

Argonians are the bomb. They have always been my favorite race to play as.

[lars573]

Which is less than useless, and always has been. Water-breathing potions and charms are more plentiful and entirely more useful. At least now they can wear shoes.

[lars573]

Which is also a perk on the restoration tree that anyone can get. That also happens automatically.

[HopAlongBunny]

Hit my first bug.

Mage guild. Went to talk to the guy in "Hall of Elements"... still waiting for his reply. He, and only he froze up solid. Hope I don't need him for anything else :p

[Vladimir]

I love hearing about all these problems everyone is experiencing. My Xbox Morrowind GOTY was almost flawless. It gives me hope that Skyrim should be similar. Never played Oblivion though.

[Centurion1]

my most common issue and its incredibly infuriating. notihng you can do unfortunately. it will not reverse itself.

@vladdy oh im sure by goty status it will be totally clean. morrowind on release was horrendously buggy as well all elder scrolls games are.

[Lemur]

I keep rolling Nords, since I figure, you know, you're in Nordistan, might as well play a native. I've tried out four characters, all Nords, just to see how they played. Did a big armor mage, a stealth bow dude, a pure mage, and then a 2H heavy armor stabby guy. I'm enjoying the 2H smacky stabby fellow the most, so I guess he's going to take me through Skyrim.

[HopAlongBunny]

The guy unfroze when I came back to him (did a cpl other quests)

Today I got something I hate about Steam or any other on-line dependency. "cannot connect to cloud" and various portents about "out of sync" if I proceed w/o a heavenly connection. FFS the game is on the computer; its not a mmorpg I should not even have to think about that bs. /rant

Overall game seems good but I am really annoyed with some things.

[thefluffyone93]

Nothing weak about the Argonians. Immunity to Disease and Poison, and a pretty neat special power.

Have you tried using an Orc's berserker power? My God, talk about overkill.

[lars573]

The Stormcloak story actually manages to tug at your emotions if you approach it from a roleplaying perspective, and you're playing a Nord.

"I have come to free my people! FREEEEDOOOOOM!"
I haven't done that quest line yet. But I'm siding with the empire, the Stormcloaks are (unwitting) butt-monkeys of the Thalmoor. And if they win Skyrim ends up like at best like Hammerfell, at worst (and most probably) like Elswyer. Elvish states in the ES universe are not what you'd call just or fair. Bethesda goes out of their way to write them like pointy eared Nazi's.

[Vladimir]

I haven't done that quest line yet. But I'm siding with the empire, the Stormcloaks are (unwitting) butt-monkeys of the Thalmoor. And if they win Skyrim ends up like at best like Hammerfell, at worst (and most probably) like Elswyer. Elvish states in the ES universe are not what you'd call just or fair. Bethesda goes out of their way to write them like pointy eared Nazi's.

Yea, but if you help the Stormcloaks *you* could be the pointy-eared Nazi.

In an oppressive society it's best to be the oppressor. :yes:


Its pretty sick. I like the Reguard Adrenaline Rush too.

Worth noting that Khajits look really cool this time around, and their Night Vision ability makes the game feel like Splinter Cell had romantic relations with an RPG and this is the result.

My warrior build will likely be a Redguard. Always wanted to play one of those. Dunmer are my preferred thief race.

[Monk]

I haven't done that quest line yet. But I'm siding with the empire, the Stormcloaks are (unwitting) butt-monkeys of the Thalmoor. And if they win Skyrim ends up like at best like Hammerfell, at worst (and most probably) like Elswyer. Elvish states in the ES universe are not what you'd call just or fair. Bethesda goes out of their way to write them like pointy eared Nazi's.

This. In fact, i found it incredibly poignant and emotional from a Nord's perspective to side with the Empire than the stormcloaks. I was throwing down my own people's hopes for freedom in order to save them from an even worse fate than service to an apathetic empire - being the next Thalmor target of invasion.

Freedom is an impossible hope for Skyrim being sold to the populace by a short-sighted, racist power-monger: Ulfric.

[Lemur]

The Stormcloak story actually manages to tug at your emotions if you approach it from a roleplaying perspective, and you're playing a Nord.
You know, even though I was a fur-wearing, two-handed weapon smashing Nord, I sided with the Imperials. Mel Gibson would hate me SO MUCH.

[Vladimir]

You know, even though I was a fur-wearing, two-handed weapon smashing Nord, I sided with the Imperials. Mel Gibson would hate me SO MUCH.

[removed Backroom-worthy comment] -Husar

[Drunk Clown]

So, did anyone of you finish the companions quests and the thief's guild? If so what do you think of the story?
I for one think both are poorly written

[lars573]

I've only done the Thieves guild so far, and I didn't feel it was poorly written. Taking the thieves back to being Tamriel's Mafia like they were in Morrowind was a good thing. I feel that the cursed Robin Hood thing they had in Oblivion was a lot weaker. Plus the lack of the whole independent thievery thing makes it much better to play through.

[rajpoot]

So, did anyone of you finish the companions quests and the thief's guild? If so what do you think of the story?
I for one think both are poorly written

Didn't do the thieves guild quest. The companions quest-line though, was quite short, compared to Oblivion's Fighters Guild. As far as writing is concerned, IMO that was never a strong point with TES games.
What really bothers me is that lack of a 'Destroy the Thieves Guild' quest.

[Drunk Clown]

I do not think Oblivion's was better. I think Oblivion's thief's guild was poorly written too.

What personally bothered me was that Maven is portrayed as a big and powerful woman and that you don't wanna mess with her. So when it turned out she has a meager role in the whole story I was kind of disappointed. They hopped to quickly to the nightinggale bull****. It was all about Maven and her wine with competition and then all of the sudden nothing. Guess we didn't need her help that much after all. IMHO just a weak bridge, really weak.

[LeftEyeNine]

Have you tried SkyUI (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3863) for a much better organized inventory ?

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Have you tried SkyUI (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3863) for a much better organized inventory ?

Some more minor (but useful) interface mods
Better sorting mod (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2730) - Renames some items so that they are sorted better
Container categorization (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1227) - Allows you to view containers the same way you view your own inventory, with the various categories (weapons, apparel, etc)

I highly recommend using them in conjunction with SkyUI (and to make it easier on yourself, use the Nexus Mod Manager, too).

[HopAlongBunny]

Thank you for the link to SkyUI:yes:

Trying out an Argonian now. Much happier overall. The best thing for a new toon to do seems to be practicing on whoever leads you out of the initial area; As essential npc's, you can't kill them and they don't react, therefore the ideal target dummy for whatever you're going to need.

The thief quests seem a little weak. I am not fond of the "enforcer" role but I'm just getting started on it really. The thief class seems pretty strong though and I do like "sneaking" :)

Bugs are a problem. It took me a mind-bending amount of time to complete the dungeon for Azura's quest. At the end? No star (broken or otherwise) in the "boss" chest so no way to advance it. Will have to "console" the item in order to continue :(

The "perks" feature is really nice! Makes for some tough choices and allows a bit of personalization. Still, getting stun-locked by an NPC mage is really frustrating :P

[Andres]

Got it for Christmas and absolutely loving it.

How do you guys approach this game? Normally, I play a TES game with one character, join as many factions as possible and do as much as possible with this one character. I tried that in Morrowind, but when I reached about level 60 or so, there wasn't any real incentive for me to keep going. I had a very powerful enchanted sword that killed almost everything with one or two strokes and the game started to feel boring.

I think I'm going to "divide" the game this time. Now, I'm playing as a Nord, focused on fighting (sword and shield, bow and light armor). I joined the Companions, have been doing lots of little side quests, discover the land. I think I'll join the Legion, do those quests and then probably finish the main quest. Instead of also doing Thieves Guild, Dark brotherhood, Mages Guild etc.; I think I'll just start over again to play a ruthless criminal, focusing more on pickpocketing, sneaking, speechcraft etc. and only join Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood (and perhaps the Stormcloaks as well). After that, I can try a Mage (but I'm not so fond of mages).

[HopAlongBunny]

Got it for Christmas and absolutely loving it.

How do you guys approach this game?

I like to do it all! Not possible this time around I think. The strongest part of the character develops through perks, and you only get so many.

Like Oblivion it's easy to run into the "leveling problem"; too many levels and not a playable selection of skills. I am trying to keep focused on a fairly narrow range of skills that help me kill stuff - at least until the main quest is over.

All classes appear to have abilities that are very powerful, so I think Bethesda did a good job on balance.

[Centurion1]

I tend to roleplay at first and then if i actually keep a character for long enough i do everything else. most of my time is just spent exploring and stockpiling my house.

I usually tend to restart at around 20-25.

havent played in a week and a half the bugs are unbearable and make me want to smash my xbox absolutely horrendous and makes me hate bethesda and ive loved the gameplay of every game they have ever produed. i even loved oblivion. but i find it so disrespectful to not do enough testing to fix this insane amount of bugs i am quickly beginning to hate the game.

[Gregoshi]

Got it for Christmas and absolutely loving it.
Me too.

I'll probably stick with one character and see how far I get. If I finish the game or take the character as far as is fun, I might try another, but usually just getting through the game even once is enough for me as it takes me so long to do so. In Oblivion I went heavy mage with almost no weapon skills. This time I'm going to try something like a battle mage, but hand to hand combat is too stressful (because I suck at it). Maybe practice will improve my skills. Like with Oblivion, I've taken the main quest a few missions in, but there are so many distractions, it is hard to decide which way to go.

[Andres]

double post

[Andres]

I tend to roleplay at first and then if i actually keep a character for long enough i do everything else. most of my time is just spent exploring and stockpiling my house.

I usually tend to restart at around 20-25.

havent played in a week and a half the bugs are unbearable and make me want to smash my xbox absolutely horrendous and makes me hate bethesda and ive loved the gameplay of every game they have ever produed. i even loved oblivion. but i find it so disrespectful to not do enough testing to fix this insane amount of bugs i am quickly beginning to hate the game.


You're probably going to hate me now, but after 23 hours of gameplay (PC version), I encountered only one bug (just couldn't move my character at a certain moment, a reload of a previous save solved it).

People always complain about how bugged the Bethesda games are, but, apart for some minor things, I never encountered game breaking bugs in Oblivion and Morrowind. Guess I'm just lucky.

:shrug:

I like being wealthy, having many houses and being able to bring in all kinds of loot, trophees and "old armour". I crafter my entire Elven armor myself and allthough I'll change it for better armor later on, I won't sell it. I'll keep it as a souvenir. Once I'm old, I'll be able to sit in front of my fireplace and look at all my old armour sets and tell stories to my grandchildren. "I was using that bow and wearing that helmet when I defeated blahblahblah".

At level 19 now. Archery + sneaking rocks.


Me too.

I'll probably stick with one character and see how far I get. If I finish the game or take the character as far as is fun, I might try another, but usually just getting through the game even once is enough for me as it takes me so long to do so. In Oblivion I went heavy mage with almost no weapon skills. This time I'm going to try something like a battle mage, but hand to hand combat is too stressful (because I suck at it). Maybe practice will improve my skills. Like with Oblivion, I've taken the main quest a few missions in, but there are so many distractions, it is hard to decide which way to go.

So many distractions. It's hard to finish a quest in this game, certainly so if you need to walk some distance before you get there. I really should learn how to say "no, not now" to people. It's starting to feel like work, where you need to prioritize your tasks, else nothing gets done. There's even a quest where the quest giver sends mercenaries after you if you don't finish the quest fast enough :mean:

It's a quest given to you by a woman in Shor's Stone, near Riften. She asks you to deliver something to her father. I first did some other things and afterwards, three thugs showed up. Turned out they were sent by the woman who gave me the quest (which I had completely forgotten about, since it was a minor one), to make sure I understand I need to make the delivery. So far for escaping in a computer game to forget about whining unsatisfied customers :laugh4:

[Vladimir]

Does a double post count as a bug?

[Gregoshi]

So many distractions. It's hard to finish a quest in this game, certainly so if you need to walk some distance before you get there. I really should learn how to say "no, not now" to people.

I try to heed the lyrics of Bilbo's "The Walking Song" from Lord of the Rings:


Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate.
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.



Alas, too often I fail at the "pass them by today" part. :laugh4: But it is fun none-the-less. :2thumbsup:

[LeftEyeNine]

Skyrim HD (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=607) textures pack updates to 1.3.

[scottishranger]

Hi all, got the game for christmas and I am a Nord fighter/mage at level 15. My biggest problem is my intense curiousity. I literally cannot complete a quest because I keep getting distracted whenver i see a new place to explore on my map. Add to that my curious kidnapping during a drinking game to the far side of the world and I have spent entire days without even leveling up or even fighting.

Only had a few bugs so far, nothing game breaking, although one has ruined a sidequest by teleporting an NPC into the sky...

[Tuuvi]

Got it for Christmas and absolutely loving it.

How do you guys approach this game?

I like to put myself in the game and make decisions as I'm really there. I didn't join the thieves guild or the Dark Brotherhood because I feel sort of bad if I steal stuff or murder someone even though it's not real life.


Hi all, got the game for christmas and I am a Nord fighter/mage at level 15. My biggest problem is my intense curiousity. I literally cannot complete a quest because I keep getting distracted whenver i see a new place to explore on my map. Add to that my curious kidnapping during a drinking game to the far side of the world and I have spent entire days without even leveling up or even fighting.

Only had a few bugs so far, nothing game breaking, although one has ruined a sidequest by teleporting an NPC into the sky...

I'm the opposite, I don't do much exploring because I hate getting distracted in the middle of quests.

[rajpoot]

Belethor's shop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YEMD28MMtNg

[LeftEyeNine]

LÖL (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5518)

[lars573]

LÖL (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5518)
It's offensive crap that like this that makes me glad consoles can't have mods.

[Vladimir]

That's amazing.

[HopAlongBunny]

The video is great!

Pretty much done with the main quest now. I doubt I'll play it again...maybe a new patch or the release of the Construction Set will make it worthwhile. Controls on PC are borked imho; spells and attacks sometimes go MIA and you just stand getting slaughtered (no, not stunned which would be a valid game mechanic); minor things abound but my pet: why not put some indication of where to go in the quest completion box? Its nice that usually it tells you WHO to see, but never WHERE you might find them.

Some problems are just me. I have never found a way back to the Cistern, so the Thief questline is kinda stuck :p

Good idea, poor execution.

[Craterus]

There's an entrance to the Thieves Guild behind the Temple of Mara. Otherwise you can get in the way you originally did, through the Ratway.

[LeftEyeNine]

Hello,

We got SkyBoost (http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6058) that claims to be relieving the CPU-bound bottlenecks that still get updated. It promises FPS gains in areas especially like Markath.

[LeftEyeNine]

A lot of praises for SkyBoost -simply better than TESVAL- which I can confirm myself too. SkyBoost r4 (FPU version for AMD, SSE2 for Intel) indeed relieves your system at a noticable level.

Try it (http://alexander.sannybuilder.com/?category=other&altname=skyrim_boost).

I am not getting any FPS drops while viewing Whiterun from Dragonreach. I have a Skyrim packed full of HD textures with .ini tweaks as well as AA 4x and AF 16x on 1680x1050 resolution.

[HopAlongBunny]

Thank you Craterus I found the entrance behind temple of Mara :)

LEN, SkyBoost is wonderful! No more standing and getting snuffed while trying to do things on-the-fly. Thank you for another very useful link :) Again, the player community is making a Bethesda release "user friendly".

[LeftEyeNine]

:bow:

[Monk]

A lot of praises for SkyBoost -simply better than TESVAL- which I can confirm myself too. SkyBoost r4 (FPU version for AMD, SSE2 for Intel) indeed relieves your system at a noticable level.

Try it (http://alexander.sannybuilder.com/?category=other&altname=skyrim_boost).

I am not getting any FPS drops while viewing Whiterun from Dragonreach. I have a Skyrim packed full of HD textures with .ini tweaks as well as AA 4x and AF 16x on 1680x1050 resolution.

You are my hero. This has solved nearly all of my issues with fps.

[LeftEyeNine]

You are my hero. This has solved nearly all of my issues with fps.

*watches the horizon with his hands on his waist*

[Nelson]

why not put some indication of where to go in the quest completion box? Its nice that usually it tells you WHO to see, but never WHERE you might find them.


If you select a quest it will place a nav point where you need to go on the map that you can also see on the compass. Is this what you're looking for?

I'm playing the PC version, BTW.

[LeftEyeNine]

To add more into this, when you bring up [L]ocal map while you are viewing the global [M]ap, you can even spot the exact NPC you are supposed to interact for the accomplishment and it's not fixed, it's real-time.

[Gregoshi]

I installed Skyboost and I'm seeing a little improvement. I have all settings maxed and the fps when viewing Whiterun from Dragonreach improved from 14 fps to 19. I know that is still rather low, but the movement of people did smooth out much better with that 5 fps increase.

[HopAlongBunny]

If you select a quest it will place a nav point where you need to go on the map that you can also see on the compass. Is this what you're looking for?

I'm playing the PC version, BTW.

I'm aware the icon comes up when doing the quest, but it does not seem to appear for turn-ins...

Hmm, I may be missing the obvious... do I have the quest selected when looking at completion? I'll have to check!
Thank you Nelson :)

[lars573]

So the Bronies have invaded Skyrim.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuttPZ7j63A

Truly the Devil has made his kingdom on earth. FLEE! FLEE!! For only the righteous shall be spared!

[Secura]

I can't believe that, after two and a half months of owning this game, I'm still enjoying it and discovering new locations and events even without the ability to download mods and such; I received AC:Revelations and Arkham City for Christmas, but once finished they were resigned to the shelf as Skyrim went back into the 360 for the umpteenth time.

I have severe roleplaying syndrome coupled with restart-itis and alt-itis, so I'm currently packing a character for each race; at the moment, I'm playing as an Argonian Bard called Hits-High-Notes (spot the joke, anyone?). He's mainly specialising in Light Armor, Illusion and Speech, carries a lute everywhere, likes hanging around in taverns pestering people. He's a refreshing change of pace from my other characters, at any rate.

Has anyone ever had to explain Skyrim to the uninitiated? I was in the plains around Whiterun, looting Mammoth Cheese, when a comment from my other half comes up about where the stuff comes from. I muse that the giants must milk the mammoths themselves, whereby we then get into a debate about how it's not possible for giants to do that, because they're clearly too stupid to do so, the proof of which being that they scratch their heads, which obviously makes them unintelligent! I mean, let's ignore the fact they make their own clothing and weaponry and they're also running their own airlines (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5CZjxC7P8I)...

[johnhughthom]

They are way past the airline stage. As I was wandering the plains west of Whiterun, I saw a mammoth shoot 50 feet straight up into the air and then float back down again as some giants watched. Clearly the giants are in the early stages of their space program.

[rajpoot]

Or maybe they are simply trying to find some sort of anti-dragon projectile weapon.

[Gregoshi]

I hear the giants have a frequent flyer club... :inquisitive:

I've yet to attempt taking on a giant or a mammoth for that matter. However, I did witness an interesting battle with a dragon taking on two giants, a mammoth and a sabre-tooth tiger. The main battle took place on a plateau of sorts with small cliff drop-offs at several places around the edge. I could see the dragon was swooping and attacking something as I approached and then noted one giant was hiding behind some trees. Right after seeing the hiding giant, the second giant disengaged from the dragon and ran down and hid along one of the cliffs while the dragon continued to fight the mammoth and/or tiger (I didn't have a clear enough view to see exactly what the dragon was fighting until I found the bodies later). After a brief rest, the one giant hiding behind the cliff, ran along it and then charged at the dragon from another direction. Again, I couldn't see the action on the plateau fully but soon the dragon went silent and the giants walked away. I ran up to the scene of the battle and found the dead dragon there...and found myself taking in the dragon soul. Thanks giants!

[lars573]

Some combo of attacks makes things go flying in this game. Last night I found this Orcish shock sword that was making the weaker Forsworn go flying up in the air or fus roh dah style knock back.

[Greyblades]

I believe that I read somewhere that when someone is hit by a killing blow the remaining damage that didnt get absorbed by the creature's hit points get's converted to momentum. So if you hit them with the infinity+1 sword when they have only 1 hp left they go flying. Dont quote me on this though.


...I wonder if I modded in a cheat sword I could get the enemy so high they end up bouncing off ceiling of the world's invisible walls.

[Secura]

I believe that I read somewhere that when someone is hit by a killing blow the remaining damage that didnt get absorbed by the creature's hit points get's converted to momentum. So if you hit them with the infinity+1 sword when they have only 1 hp left they go flying. Dont quote me on this though.

That's correct, good sir, and it's the reason for giants being able to send you into orbit; apparently they're Lvl.32 at the start of the game (their mammoths are Lvl.38, allegedly) and you would have neither the hitpoints nor mitigation to shrug off their attacks at that stage in the game, you're instantly killed when hit, even on Novice difficulty. The sheer amount of damage they deal over one's health limit is enough to send your lifeless body ragdolling through the air.

This is technically a glitch in the way the system handles damage calculations, but Bethesda have maintained that they'll keep glitches in the game if they're funny, as this one is. Never gets old for me, at least. :laugh4:

[Andres]

I've yet to attempt taking on a giant or a mammoth for that matter.

I've killed two mammoths in one battle once while hiding in some ruin. The mammoths couldn't enter and I simply shot at them from the inside.

As for giants, they don't seem to like water. I ran away from one once, into a river. I noted he didn't follow me, but just kept standing there, yelling at me. So, I slowly swum back to a spot where I could stand, but still out of reach from his club. Many arrows took care of him. For a rocket scientist, he didn't seem the brightest bulb to me.

[HopAlongBunny]

Despite what I said about not playing the game again, it drew me back :(

I have to admit I have never managed to kill either a mammoth or a giant. Kiting seems to be the best way , but I'm just not that good at it. A hit and run melee attack almost worked, but I zigged when I should have zagged and was rewarded with a bird's eye view of the area.

Quirky behaviour seems to be the rule. I have battled dragons with their aid; after such battles it's a coin toss whether they quietly walk away or chase me. At least they have personality :)

[Monk]

I have to admit I have never managed to kill either a mammoth or a giant

Your highest upgraded knockback shout (the meme generating "fus-rho-dah") will knock giants clean off their feet and send them flying backwards. Once you're around level 15-20, you can capitalize on this by running up to them and BEATING THEIR BRAINS OUT before they recover. That should take about 50% of their life, then its all about the footwork. Engage them on ground where you can dance them around and avoid their massive strikes. Sprinting and jumping out of the way is the best way to avoid a hit, since even crazy decked out, if they hit you with their rocket club its a 1 hit k.o

I've killed two giants at once before using the shout dodge and strike method.

[Veho Nex]

That's correct, good sir, and it's the reason for giants being able to send you into orbit; apparently they're Lvl.32 at the start of the game (their mammoths are Lvl.38, allegedly) and you would have neither the hitpoints nor mitigation to shrug off their attacks at that stage in the game, you're instantly killed when hit, even on Novice difficulty. The sheer amount of damage they deal over one's health limit is enough to send your lifeless body ragdolling through the air.

This is technically a glitch in the way the system handles damage calculations, but Bethesda have maintained that they'll keep glitches in the game if they're funny, as this one is. Never gets old for me, at least. :laugh4:

There used to be a glitch where chickens could report crimes. I think they should have made a chicken that looked like an english bobby that wanders the map looking for crime to report. When he see's you commit a crime it should run up to you and shout, "STOP RIGHT THERE, BA-KAWWWK, CRIMINAL SCUM!"

[LeftEyeNine]

If you opt in (via Steam), 1.4 is up as BETA for Skyrim.

Both the author of performance boosters and users confirm that they experience the highest FPS gain with 1.4.

Make sure you make backup for your saves considering this is labeled "Beta" for a reason.

[lars573]

So I just got a kill a giant quest. This should be fun. Call dragon and flaming ebony battle axe.

[Lemur]

Part deux.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WriurIFyyo

[rajpoot]

Those guys really nail it :laugh3:

[Gregoshi]

For the record, I'm not Gregethor. My character is Gregolas.

[HopAlongBunny]

Those guys really nail it :laugh3:

Completely agree! The way they mix goofy in-game stuff with real-life is great; I still laugh when I picture Gregethor's "aid" with the basket over his head :)

[a completely inoffensive name]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BHKLVr_Cxw

[Gregoshi]

Very cool find acin. :2thumbsup:

[rajpoot]

Nice song.

He's also done this DA2 song which actually manages to make DA2 and Hawke's bumbling around sound epic.

[Drunk Clown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaiHTvifGt0&ob=av3e
Great.

I wonder if Bethesda actually wants this...

[HopAlongBunny]

Wagner goes techno?

[Lemur]

I hope everyone is following the adventures of Felix the Peaceful Monk. Four parts so far, explaining a purely pacifist run of Skyrim.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2d2KRIUYCM

[HopAlongBunny]

I hope everyone is following the adventures of Felix the Peaceful Monk. Four parts so far, explaining a purely pacifist run of Skyrim.

Thank you for that Lemur!

It's good to see someone trying something quite different. That is actually a playstyle I thought about but rejected for the same reasons he goes over: expensive spells; leaving a living crowd on the path you may have to walk again. Kudos to him for having the courage to do it, and the ability to make it work :)

[TinCow]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/01/fus-ro-mod-skyrims-creation-kit-in-action/

The Skyrim creation kid (modding tool kit) has an automated system which uploads mods to Steam. Players can install mods by selecting them on Steam, and Steam will handle the installation itself, and keep all mods up-to-date as new versions are released. This is quite possibly the greatest modding news I have ever heard. If this works well, it means that the single most frustrating aspect of modding Bethesda games is now a thing of the past.

[Vladimir]

When I saw the Bethesda video on this yesterday I started to like Steam; just as I was worried about where I could find great mods. I've had so many problems with M2 mods. This will take the worry away.

[LeftEyeNine]

1.4 live.

[Gregoshi]

1.4 live.
Yes, I noticed when Skyrim with Skyboost wouldn't run last night. I uninstalled Skyboost and launched the game. I noticed framerate improvement better than that provided by Skyboost: Whiterun fps with Skyboost was about 19 and with 1.4 alone was 25. However, as I travelled along roads, the movement was not fluid despite the higher framerates. Often the movement would ever-so-slightly pause every couple of seconds - enough to be annoying. There were no other processes running that should have interfered with Skyrim. I should have re-booted just to see if that mattered as I haven't done so for a couple of days. I'll do so tonight.

[Chirurgeon]

Would you guys be interested in me posting an AAR about my orc? I have it over at twcenter.net. If not here where would be a good place to place aars for skyrim?

[johnhughthom]

Would you guys be interested in me posting an AAR about my orc? I have it over at twcenter.net. If not here where would be a good place to place aars for skyrim?

:laugh4: When I saw your name in the Skyrim thread, my immediate thought was "bug him to do an AAR." Our TreasAARy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?296-TreasAARy) is not quite as active as TWC, but you'll get a loyal following for a well written AAR, which yours always are.

Off to TWC to check it out.

[Chirurgeon]

:laugh4: When I saw your name in the Skyrim thread, my immediate thought was "bug him to do an AAR." Our TreasAARy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?296-TreasAARy) is not quite as active as TWC, but you'll get a loyal following for a well written AAR, which yours always are.

Off to TWC to check it out.

Hey good to see you again! Sweet Ill post it in there as well :)

[LeftEyeNine]

horrorview from SkyrimNexus has a tiny collection of "Sexy" re-texturing collections for villages and towns (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=7583), followed by Riften, Windhelm and Winterhold College for now, upon the success of the first.

"Sexy" stuff, although improving dumbed-down textures is an attraction indeed, raised my eyebrow since I wondered if warmer colours would spoil the intended ambiance of the game. You know the color palette must have been chosen carefully for an atmospheric game like this. If any of you dares trying, let me know about your thoughts on the mod.

[Hamata]

Lol i forgot about my own thread! i havent played the game in a while since to me after the story, everything just got dull,does anyone agree with me? i might start playing again killing some random gaurds

[TinCow]

horrorview from SkyrimNexus has a tiny collection of "Sexy" re-texturing collections for villages and towns (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=7583), followed by Riften, Windhelm and Winterhold College for now, upon the success of the first.

"Sexy" stuff, although improving dumbed-down textures is an attraction indeed, raised my eyebrow since I wondered if warmer colours would spoil the intended ambiance of the game. You know the color palette must have been chosen carefully for an atmospheric game like this. If any of you dares trying, let me know about your thoughts on the mod.

Rumor has it that the construction kit download will also include official High-Res textures for the game. It's scheduled to be released on Tuesday.

[Gregoshi]

Lol i forgot about my own thread! i havent played the game in a while since to me after the story, everything just got dull,does anyone agree with me? i might start playing again killing some random gaurds
Story? There's a story? Just kidding, I'm having a hard time paying any attention to the main story with everything else there is to do. I'm just over 1/3 of the way through the main quest. I've got a bad case of "Yes, I'll help you sir/ma'am." and "Oh look! A cave!". :laugh4:

[LeftEyeNine]

Oh, Greg-sensei, I should have predicted long before that we are surely from the same clan.

[HopAlongBunny]

. I've got a bad case of "Yes, I'll help you sir/ma'am." and "Oh look! A cave!". :laugh4:

Much the same for me on my first couple of starts. When I got a toon I was happy with, I still said "yes!" to all requests but pushed the main quest. I was afraid that waiting too long would result in the same thing as Oblivion: You might be the most powerful thing in Tamriel, but you will never! get Martin through alive!!! Muahahahaa!

As far as I can tell, there is no need to worry. Enjoy your journey! :)

ps: do NOT take any follower you wish to keep, on the last stage of Meridia's quest.

[Chirurgeon]

Here is the link to my AAR:

Life In The Stronghold (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=516234)

[Lemur]

A journey with a farmer named turnip. (http://imgur.com/a/8kodR#0)

[Drunk Clown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2DshotexMU

[LeftEyeNine]

Tried official Hi-Res Textures DLC yet ? Anybody ?

[Monk]

Yeah I did. Some improvement in a number of places especially on character models and wood/tree textures, but there are still mods that have added better texturing. The one i've seen people drawing the most comparisons with is Skyrim HD, which seems noticeably better than the High Res pack.

Honestly I'm more impressed with patch 1.4 and the optimization fixes. The game now runs as well unmodded as it did when I had it loaded with half a dozen optimization tweaks. And it only took themfour months, impressive. :laugh4:

[HopAlongBunny]

The patch seems good, although I am back to stutter-casting sometimes.

Game has a lot of content to while away the hours, but I won't be recommending it to anyone. Way too often I get to the end of a dungeon slog capping off a quest, and there is no "Hurrah!" at the end. It just makes me really annoyed to go through the whole bit, and end up having to rely on the console to complete.

I suppose I should be glad I can save the game that way; I'm not.

[Gregoshi]

There are lots of "funny" Skyrim videos out there, but this short one just cracks me up every time.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHbF9ynGZV0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[lars573]

I'm partial to this one. But you know potty mouth and all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlC6Z0iRoOA&feature=plcp&context=C3dcbb7cUDOEgsToPDskIPxzrGxK2GLdVimB20LsZv

[HopAlongBunny]

The vids for this game are quite a varied lot; many of them very funny :)
For all my moaning about the game I have logged over 400hrs at it...can't be all bad :p Maybe I would recommend it to others.

[lars573]

I just hope they announce a DLC soon.

Also THIS IS SKYRIM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqaV6HFpXOs&list=FLtGgEEodq_bzKXWzZtaS8dw&index=1&feature=plpp_video

[rajpoot]

It's supposed to be a song from Skyrim. TBH I never heard it in-game but who cares. It's really well sung.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FLQ4rACE-0&feature=digest_sun

[Gregoshi]

The recent Catalyst driver update for Radeon cards (12.2 - but it has been refered to as 12.3 in some places) causes graphic pixelation in Skyrim. Seems to affect water, reflected light and other such things. The only solution I've found is to uninstall 12.2 and reinstall 12.1. It works.

Go to AMD.com support page and select your card class and operating system. At the download page, look for the "previous drivers" link and select it. Find 12.1 on the page and download it. Run the installer, first time to uninstall current drivers and then after rebooting, run it a second time to install the 12.1 drivers.

[Monk]

The recent Catalyst driver update for Radeon cards (12.2 - but it has been refered to as 12.3 in some places) causes graphic pixelation in Skyrim. Seems to affect water, reflected light and other such things. The only solution I've found is to uninstall 12.2 and reinstall 12.1. It works.

Go to AMD.com support page and select your card class and operating system. At the download page, look for the "previous drivers" link and select it. Find 12.1 on the page and download it. Run the installer, first time to uninstall current drivers and then after rebooting, run it a second time to install the 12.1 drivers.

This is one time where not keeping up to date with my graphics driver has saved me a lot of hassle. I've been thinking about playing Skyrim again all week and this would have surely ruined that. Thanks for the heads up Gregoshi. :bow:

[lars573]

Imma go hug my Xbox now.

[Quid]

The PS3 version is virtually unplayable after you reach a certain level. It crashes constantly. Bummer!

Quid

[Kekvit Irae]

Decided to try my hand at modding Skyrim now.

Came up with a small mod to remove the Dragon Priest Masks from a character model.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=13371

[HopAlongBunny]

I find it intriguing that dragons are not "treasure hoards" in the usual sense; instead of vast piles of gold and goodies you get some gold and products (bones/skin) It seems more akin to landing a whale in that respect. Given the number of dragons you end up killing that's a good thing :)

[lars573]

Actually Dragon lairs have some nice loot. And some times word walls.

[rajpoot]

Mounted combat
(http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117451-Mounted-Combat-Comes-to-Skyrim)
I uninstalled the game, and my HDD is filled to the brim so I cannot try it right now :cry:
Here's hoping it's like M&B or better.

[johnhughthom]

Here's hoping it's like M&B or better.

Not asking for much there, are you mate! :laugh4:

[Greyblades]

Considering it's bethesda we're talking about, I dont think it would be unreasonable.

[johnhughthom]

Considering it's bethesda we're talking about, I dont think it would be unreasonable.

I don't really understand that sentence, do Bethesda have some reputation for making great combat engines I'm unaware of?

[rajpoot]

Once they know what they have to do, I don't think replicating M&Bs combat should be all that hard.
I mean they don't have to do the lances or polearms at all, nor have they done the shields as far as I know. And the horse/riding bit is already decent enough.

Anyhow by what I know this actually started out as an in-house mod at Bethesda itself. Then they liked the idea and decided to release it as a patch.

[johnhughthom]

I've re-downloaded Skyrim and have opted in to the beta. I'll let you know my thoughts on the mounted combat when I get a horse, I'm quite a slow player though, so could be a few days. Unless I just steal one.

[rajpoot]

I've re-downloaded Skyrim and have opted in to the beta. I'll let you know my thoughts on the mounted combat when I get a horse, I'm quite a slow player though, so could be a few days. Unless I just steal one.

Much obliged.
You can also use the console to just give yourself one. :D

[Greyblades]

I don't really understand that sentence, do Bethesda have some reputation for making great combat engines I'm unaware of?
Not really but they're pretty much the only company I have an interest in (other than Stardock) that hasn't really screwed up royaly yet.

[rajpoot]

Dawnguard trailer. Better than pr0n.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3PjBSicSVqI

That is a new breed of vampires I think.
Hope they do a PC version soon after.

[Vladimir]

All I got out of that was mounted crossbow combat. And I'm so happy!!!

[Monk]

Looks like they were serious about the game jam being ideas for new content. I seem to remember one of the ideas they played with was vampire master or something similiar, looks like we'll finally get a chance to try that out.

Personally I'm a little disappointed the DLC is about vampires. Almost seems a step down from the Galactus level threat that Alduin posed to the dragonborn. Still it doesn't look bad, per say, but I was hoping for something a bit more threatening.

[rickinator9]

This looks awesome. The vampire is less awesome than the werewolf in Skyrim.

[thefluffyone93]

I dunno; it looked like something related to Molag Bal.
I thought I saw something that looked like him in there.

[rickinator9]

I dunno; it looked like something related to Molag Bal.
I thought I saw something that looked like him in there.

As far as I know, the only creatures that feed from the living and live under the tyranny of the sun are vamps

[thefluffyone93]

You know, I'm incredibly tempted to make a My Little Pony reference.
But I won't; I believe myself to be better than that......

Even if it would make this thread 20% cooler....

Wait....

[HopAlongBunny]

Looks ok; been trying to get my groove on in Thief again...harder than I remember it :p

[rajpoot]

Personally I'm a little disappointed the DLC is about vampires. Almost seems a step down from the Galactus level threat that Alduin posed to the dragonborn. Still it doesn't look bad, per say, but I was hoping for something a bit more threatening.

As long as these new vampires don't start sparkling, I'm OK with it.
More seriously, if they're going the way they did with Oblivion, this is probably like Knights of the Nine pack. I'm pretty sure eventually they will release a much bigger, real expansion pack with an alternate realm/extra landmass.

[johnhughthom]

Mounted combat very underwhelming, more time spent fighting the controls than the opponents. Then again, this is more of a consequence of the horse mechanics from the base game, I'd forgotten how bad they are (don't really know why they changed it from Oblivion, one of the few changes for the worse, imo). Kept finding myself trying to use M&B controls as well, might get better with a bit of practice, probably take a mod that changes horse controls though.

[lars573]

As long as these new vampires don't start sparkling, I'm OK with it.
More seriously, if they're going the way they did with Oblivion, this is probably like Knights of the Nine pack. I'm pretty sure eventually they will release a much bigger, real expansion pack with an alternate realm/extra landmass.
If Bethesda sticks to it's plan of making the content for Skyrim like Fallout 3 rather than Oblivion. We may not get much in the way of a new landmass.

[Hooahguy]

Im sorta tempted to buy this when it goes on sale on Steam, but Im not a huge fan of killing demons and ghouls. As someone who dislikes those kind of games, would I enjoy it? Dragons are awesome though.

[Monk]

Im sorta tempted to buy this when it goes on sale on Steam, but Im not a huge fan of killing demons and ghouls. As someone who dislikes those kind of games, would I enjoy it? Dragons are awesome though.

Elder Scrolls games are more about exploration and finding cool stuff rather than engaging storylines or 'epic' quests. Yes, you are the dovahkiin and the potential savior of the world, but most of the fun of the game revolves around exploring exotic locations and uncovering lost lore. You know, finding lost trinkets, uncovering treasure maps, killing their ancient undead protectors, ect, things like that. I've always thought of Elder Scrolls games sorta like an Indiana Jones simulator with magic and swords rather than whips and guns :grin2:

If that sounds like the game for you then I'd pick it up without a doubt. If you are expecting a more traditional quest/story based experience, however, you will likely want to go elsewhere.

[Hooahguy]

Elder Scrolls games are more about exploration and finding cool stuff rather than engaging storylines or 'epic' quests. Yes, you are the dovahkiin and the potential savior of the world, but most of the fun of the game revolves around exploring exotic locations and uncovering lost lore. You know, finding lost trinkets, uncovering treasure maps, killing their ancient undead protectors, ect, things like that. I've always thought of Elder Scrolls games sorta like an Indiana Jones simulator with magic and swords rather than whips and guns :grin2:

If that sounds like the game for you then I'd pick it up without a doubt. If you are expecting a more traditional quest/story based experience, however, you will likely want to go elsewhere.

Well all of that sounds fantastic. Except the " killing their ancient undead protectors" part. Not a fan of that.
Probably for the same reason I wont touch a horror movie with a mile long pole.

[Monk]

Well all of that sounds fantastic. Except the " killing their ancient undead protectors" part. Not a fan of that.
Probably for the same reason I wont touch a horror movie with a mile long pole.

How about giant spiders. Are you a fan of giant spiders? :grin2:

[Hooahguy]

How about giant spiders. Are you a fan of giant spiders? :grin2:

NOPE.
NOPE.NOPE.NOPE.NOPE.NOPE.NOPE.

This whole thing annoys me because it looks like an amazing game. I just dont want to :daisy: myself while playing.

And the main theme for Skyrim is amazing.

[johnhughthom]

Ya big gurl!

[Hooahguy]

Thanks!

I might play it anyway, just to make an attempt to get over this fear.

[johnhughthom]

You said you're looking to buy it on Steam, right? There is a mod that changes the giant spider to bears, there may well be mods to change any of the other spooky things that make you pee your pants. :clown:

The mod integration using Steam workshop really is fantastic, pretty easy to find what you want too.

[Hooahguy]

Well Im not afraid of most spiders. Just the freakishly large ones.
Like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEE1rjkZFag

Laugh at me if you want, but I scare easily. Mostly by zombies though. A friend even suggested I have Kinemortophobia- fear of zombies.

[rickinator9]

Skyrim doesn't have typical zombies, as far as I know. Only undead vikings, skeletons etc. Those spiders are fairly common, both in dungeons and in the wild.

[johnhughthom]

Those Draugr are pretty much Viking zombies, pretty much Hooahguy's worst nightmare I'd have thought. Apart from spider zombies.

Hooahguy, I've never actually got to know a Jew in real life, you are beginning to make me think all those stereotypes about wussiness are correct... :laugh4:

[Hooahguy]

Eh, that shouldnt be so bad. If they act like normal beings then I guess I can look past their deformities.
But zombies and giant spiders are a big NOPE.

Ill just use that spider to bears mod.

[Centurion1]

skyrim isnt scary at all its just an rpg.

nothing like say doom or dead space. no jump outs, especially scary creatures whatsoever.

[Hooahguy]

So I guess Im going to buy it. Once its on sale on Steam.

[johnhughthom]

Summer sale can't be far off.

[Hooahguy]

Yeah. Reddit has been crawling with complaint/shock posts how it didnt start today even though everyone predicted it would.

[lars573]

Those Draugr are pretty much Viking zombies, pretty much Hooahguy's worst nightmare I'd have thought. Apart from spider zombies.

Hooahguy, I've never actually got to know a Jew in real life, you are beginning to make me think all those stereotypes about wussiness are correct... :laugh4:
Actually the Skyrim Draugr are mumified not zombiefied.

And replacing the Frostbite Spider with bears will be much comedy. As they come in three sizes. Black bear sized, grizzly bear sized, and T-rex sized.

[Hooahguy]

Ive been watching a bunch of Skyrim videos and they dont seem too bad.

[thefluffyone93]

All right, my opinion on the DLC so far.
Spoilers might be ahead.

I like it, but the name of said DLC was misleading to me.
I pretty much had no interaction with the Dawnstar; the story line
seemed to flow right into the Vampire's side of the story, and it was only after
the story was completed did I realize this.

The only interaction I had with them was speaking with their leader to initiate the first quest.
And that's it. The story had pretty much nothing to do with them, and it seems like
the game wants you to side with the vampires.

That being said, Soul Cairn is :daisy: awesome.
Undead dragon, and undead Horsie?
YUS PLS.

Oh, and the Forgotten Vale? One of the coolest places I've seen.
Mind the frozen Lake.

Have yet to fight a legendary dragon, because I'm only 53.
They spawn at around 80.
Might be a while.

[Vladimir]

Still waiting for GOTY but I'm getting excited.

[lars573]

Have yet to fight a legendary dragon, because I'm only 53.
They spawn at around 80.
Might be a while.
Not true. I got handed a plate full of my arse with all the trimmings by one at below level 50 (~45 IIRC). They're out there, just few and far between. It was in the mountains of the Reach I think.

[thefluffyone93]

Well that's good to know.
I do like the look of the Revered Dragons; they look amphibious to me.

[Secura]

The only interaction I had with them was speaking with their leader to initiate the first quest.
And that's it. The story had pretty much nothing to do with them, and it seems like the game wants you to side with the vampires.

I didn't get this impression, but then I play Skyrim from a roleplaying perspective, so my characters consider Harkon's offer based on their dispositions and desires; my Mabrigash seeks power, and pure vampiric blood was another means of exerting her will over Tamriel, whereas I have a Breton who seeks vengeance against the Volkihar for killing her fellow priestesses and leaving her as a vampire (well, I'm levelling for Necromage before I turn her, but still...), thus she wouldn't accept the offer of becoming a Vampire Lord and would probably hack Harkon's head off if not for the sheer number of vampires in the room.

From what I understand, the only reason to join the Volkihar is for the narrative/roleplaying prospects and some jewellery items that improve your vampiric combat; if you're joining them solely to be a Vampire Lord, you can actually side with the Dawnguard and become VL at the conclusion of the DLC's main questline anyway, but you'll get access to the Dawnguard's advanced crossbows, undead-slaying spells and the like too.

[spankythehippo]

Damn. Dawnguard sounds really fun. I wish the PC version will come soon.

[Secura]

Damn. Dawnguard sounds really fun. I wish the PC version will come soon.

For me, the best part of the DLC doesn't have anything to do with the Dawnguard-Volkihar dynamic; let's just say that there's a nice amount of story devoted to one of the more interesting races in Tamriel, and leave it at that. :P

[Memnon]

Are you talking about the Orsimer? They've always had the most interesting history and society to me, but the game doesn't delve into it at all other than the Malacash quest. Also, where do you find the Forgemaster's fingers? The game doesn't give me an objective marker.

[rajpoot]

Are you talking about the Orsimer? They've always had the most interesting history and society to me, but the game doesn't delve into it at all other than the Malacash quest. Also, where do you find the Forgemaster's fingers? The game doesn't give me an objective marker.

It's the
Falmer
I think.

[Secura]

Also, where do you find the Forgemaster's fingers? The game doesn't give me an objective marker.

The Forgemaster's Fingers are radiant and, as far as I know, can be found before you're tasked to do so, much like Meridia's Beacon or the books for the Arcaneum. When you press the button/key to "show on map", does it point anywhere?

An alternate way into the Orc Strongholds is to befriend an Orc in one of the cities (Markarth is a good place to go) or complete the Malacath quest.


It's the
Falmer
I think.

I certainly think they're one of the interesting races on Tamriel, definitely up there with the Dwemer. :3

[spankythehippo]

I certainly think they're one of the interesting races on Tamriel, definitely up there with the Dwemer. :3

Probably because they're culture is non-existent. I just wish there was at least one Dwemer still living... Parthurnax was alive before Alduin was teleported forward in time. I think. So, I hope there are some Dwemer lurking around.

[Memnon]

Probably because they're culture is non-existent. I just wish there was at least one Dwemer still living... Parthurnax was alive before Alduin was teleported forward in time. I think. So, I hope there are some Dwemer lurking around.

There is, he's just diseased and not at all a specimen that reflects the normal physical traits of that people. I forget his name, but he's in morrowind. He's immortal because of a disease called corprus(sp?). But all we know of their disappearance is that they all left at the same time, not necessarily died. The guy who was left behind was only left because he was exploring some other plane of existence, so we can assume it had something to do with the plane(t)s. sorry for geeking out, I've read every in game book...

[rajpoot]

There is, he's just diseased and not at all a specimen that reflects the normal physical traits of that people. I forget his name, but he's in morrowind. He's immortal because of a disease called corprus(sp?). But all we know of their disappearance is that they all left at the same time, not necessarily died. The guy who was left behind was only left because he was exploring some other plane of existence, so we can assume it had something to do with the plane(t)s. sorry for geeking out, I've read every in game book...

Lol beat me to it.
The last Dwemer is Yagrum Bagarn (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Yagrum_Bagarn). Sadly he knows next to nothing about what happened to his folks.
His friend Divayth Fyr wears a full set of Daedric armour though, which was a rarity in Morrowind.

[lars573]

He's also probably dead now. Given what happened to Morrowind.......

[Hooahguy]

Just to point out on this thread that Skyrim is on sale on Steam for a bit less than $30.

[Memnon]

When is dawnguard coming out for ps3? I've looked around and can't even find an acknowledgment that there isn't a release date yet.

[Vladimir]

Still waiting for GOTY edition.

[Hooahguy]

So I played through three dungeons. Not so bad, actually not bad at all. Draugrs seem just like normal warriors to me. The spiders are annoying because of their venom but otherwise theyre no problem at all.
Though :daisy: giants. Seriously. One minute Im on my way to Windhelm and the next Im flying through the air.

Also the Dance of Death mod is amazing. Such awesome kill moves.

[Memnon]

How're you dealing with the spiders? I used to be able to face them, but now when I find one is chasing me, especially in the swamps and forests, I just run away. Even the way they sound haunts my every in-game moment. As for the giants, agreed.
One of them caused my first death, I was just exploring a mountain after doing the dragon stone quest, and came across a camp with what looked like another bandit (I was far above him). So I fired my bow at him, expecting to at least be able to hurt him, when I saw that not only did my attack do nothing, but it was a giant coming after me, I decided to charge in there with my great sword... Bad idea. I've never been able to find that particular camp for vengeance.

[Andres]

So I played through three dungeons. Not so bad, actually not bad at all. Draugrs seem just like normal warriors to me. The spiders are annoying because of their venom but otherwise theyre no problem at all.
Though :daisy: giants. Seriously. One minute Im on my way to Windhelm and the next Im flying through the air.

Also the Dance of Death mod is amazing. Such awesome kill moves.

Here's a tip to take out giants if you're still a low level character: they don't go into the water.

So, you need to draw their attention, then sprint for a nearby river or pool and shoot plenty of arrows in them until they die.

[HopAlongBunny]

You can use rock outcrops in a similar way. Plonk a cpl arrows into a giant while standing on top; the giant will eventually find a way to get to you, but all you have to do is jump down and keep shooting. It gets to be a confusing mess if you get multiple giants and a mammoth or two :)

You can find a suitable place in or near to every giant camp.