Buffy Mafia 2: A Slayer's Work Game Thread [Concluded]

[Riedquat]

You never had faith in the town to begin with.

No? Really? We haven't noticed.


No, but I still foolishly attempted to help them, knowing they'd screw me over anyway. Always pick mafia, the town is useless.



But you didn't help the town... Your attempt has been nonexistent.

This^

Kids, keep it private please! Everyone is paranoid enough.

I don't care what the write up will say about Atpg, he declared himself neutral and showed himself uncooperative, to me at least. And with the info we had at hand it was the right thing to do. Again, to me at least, Monty disagree and has all the right to do so.

[thefluffyone93]

So what have we learned today children?
...............
That's right!

I'M THE SAUCE BAUCE.

WATCHU KNOW BOUT BACON-HAM LINCOLN?!?

[Lewwyn]

Did Autolycus forget that he hadn't posted the write up? :whip:

[autolycus]

No, I'm just an evil person and my girlfriend left town about an hour ago, so I was prioritizing her. I'll edit in a writeup shortly, but I'll tell you all that Atpg was Rondell so that we can get things moving again. I'd like to end the night in about 18 hours, at 12:00 pm 12/14/2011 EST, but I'll give the full 24 if less than 2/3 of you have sent in orders.

[thefluffyone93]

*sniff*
...........
So....who's Rondell?

[Captain Blackadder]

Looks like ATPG was telling the truth or at least a variation on it. Rondell was a member of Gunn's Crew Vampire Hunters who went slightly crazy and decided to kill all demons regardless of beliefs. I would guess he was a neutral possibly SK whose goal would be to kill all Vamps or Demons which could include Angel but ultimately could work for town since I would assume most if not all bad guys in this game would be Demon and it would be not in his character to join them though he could work with scum if they are human like the trio.

[Montmorency]

Yes yes, he said all that. Him being the big killer in the writeups is possible, but I'm inclined to believe that he was a scanner as claimed.

Obviously, if the big killer doesn't show up in the next writeup...

[edse]

Remember to breathe Blackadder

[Lewwyn]

Monty free up space in your inbox so I can yell at you for being a goddamn idiot or for having been turned.

[El Barto]

No, I'm just an evil person and my girlfriend left town about an hour ago, so I was prioritizing her. I'll edit in a writeup shortly, but I'll tell you all that Atpg was Rondell so that we can get things moving again. I'd like to end the night in about 18 hours, at 12:00 pm 12/14/2011 EST, but I'll give the full 24 if less than 2/3 of you have sent in orders.
So, in that hour, after the girlfriend left, you had more important stuff to do than an update? What happens when people actually marry? I now see what's happened to my father. Poor man.


Remember to breathe Blackadder
'Make it look like an Accident'.

[Montmorency]

I have to say, this is the most grueling early game I've ever played. More games should start with extended phases.

[Captain Blackadder]

Remember to breathe Blackadder

It is a bad habit of mine only when posting without thinking to write very long run on sentences.

[Lewwyn]

I have to say, this is the most grueling early game I've ever played. More games should start with extended phases.

This is actually more normal for me. I was infuriated with the lack of talking in The island. In games I play on different sites this is much more normal.

[Erebus]

Still pretty light for RB. Need Zak here to lead the mislynch bandwagon.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, what the heck did I ask you yesterday before changing my vote? What have you answered?

Then you came in thread and said the host informed you were scanned... that left me thinking why on earth the host didn't say the same to me when I was scanned...

I'm not wasting more my time on you dude, at the very last you were a very uncooperative independent role, as you claimed to be...

Oh jebus.

No one but the host informed me I was scanned. As in, no PLAYER came forward and said hai, I scanned you Pizza.

I thought that was clear. The host doesn't count as a player in this game. I wouldn't know I was scanned in the first place unless the host said something about the hand chopping.

What nonsense is this about "very uncooperative"? Bull droppings. I revealed all my information and helped connect the doctors together without self-contaminating. I've done more for the town than you could possibly ask of a neutral in two phases, I just wasn't kissing anyone's rump, that's all. I asked for one whole thing, which was not being killed off. Did what I was supposed to do to help, but town didn't give a rats behind and listened to some anonymous prankster instead of thinking for themselves, and lynched me.




And guys, I was too busy scanning Player A and Player B (already posted who player B was) and finding out they were human to be doing serial killings.

Neutral serial killer???

Dudes. The character Rondell may have gone anti-demon at one point in his life, in the TV show, but the character Rondell in this game is still a part of Gunn's crew and had no other powers besides scanning. You just want to believe you caught something good, but you didn't, you blew it. That's all. You wasted a really useful scanner based on the premise that neutrals are any less townie than townies in this game.

A game where townies are corruptible as well, and the only difference between a neutral and a townie is the survival win condition.

Essentially, you just lynched one of your better detectives, over BS. Swallow it. It tastes bad, but you'll get over it. I have.



I didn't even have any ability to remove non-humans. All I had was my scan and my vote, just like I said. You didn't catch anyone, let alone anyone of value. You killed your own detective. That's all.

I have nothing left to contribute as my own win conditions are screwed now, so you're on your own. Enjoy the peace and quiet.


One last thing, if I was so anti-demon, why was I so willing to continue to help Montmorency, who admitted he was a demon in-thread, even after he had been a pain in my neck?

Because I wasn't even anti-demon. I was simply pro-human. That's all. No anti-anything, just foolishly concerned with fellow human beings and their ability to live. Killed by those same humans.

Learned my lesson, didn't I, atheotes?

[autolycus]

Buffy Season 1 Episode 3: New Kid in Town

Buffy is on patrol. She comes across a pentagram with burnt out candles at the corners.

Buffy: That's probably not a good thing.

Cue Intro Music

Buffy succeeds in tracking whatever was in that pentagram to a house. She slips inside, to hear fighting.
She carefully looks around the corner...

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and sees AskthePizzaguy struggling with a shark-faced demon!
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Buffy: Yikes! The last time someone like him came to this town, it was disastrous!

And so saying, Buffy pulls out her stake and stabs ... AskthePizzaguy

AskthePizzaguy: Geez, can't a brother catch a break around here?


3269AskthePizzaguy was Rondell!

Buffy: Ok, so maybe that wasn't the best idea. But in that case ...

Buffy looks up, but the Shark-demon is gone, and so is any trail.





Night ends in about 3 hours if I have 2/3 of the possible actions, otherwise it ends in 9, at 12:00 or 18:00 EST respectively
Living 19/25
Alsark
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Captain Blackadder
Daveshack
edse
El Barto
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Kennigit
landlubber
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat
Seon
Thefluffyone


Dead 6/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell

[Alsark]

Well then...

So as far as I see it, there's two possibilities here:

1) The scanner that had contacted Mont's contacts was lying.

OR

2) ATPG may have been converted, thus changing his victory condition.

Really, the second option makes more sense to me. Why go out of your way to get somebody lynched if their victory condition is just to protect all humans? That's hardly a threatening role - especially when they're neutral-aligned.

However, it may be worth looking into an alliance between this individual and the person who was in second place for the lynch (Seon?). If one of them is mafia, it in all likelihood increases the chances of the other being mafia, too. However, this all depends on the timing of the events. If this person only started telling people that ATPG's condition was to kill humans AFTER the Seon votes started piling up, then it's odd. If he spread this information at the beginning of the phase, then there's nothing off about it at all (so that alliance isn't as likely as with any other player).

For now, I'd say we should not reveal this individual publicly. Whoever knows about him (I think we're all males here? I don't know anybody here) should talk things out with him privately and make a decision based upon that. If he is telling the truth, it would suck to out/kill another scanner.

[thefluffyone93]

And this is why I never give my information to anyone ever.

Maybe I'm smarter because I know cats can be bats can be rats can be hats can be gnats can be thats can be thises.

WABBAJACK.

[autolycus]

Angel Season 1 Episode 3: Old Friends

Angel is in a decidedly broody state, so he goes to take council with an acquaintance.


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Angel: Gwen, have I lost my way? Is running this town corrupting me?

Gwen: Don't ask me. You had not one, not two, but three conduits to the higher powers,
and you drove them all away.


Angel stalks off broodily. Cue opening music


Kennigit is on a field trip with her class to the L.A. museum of Art. Bored she sneaks off for a smoke on her own. Another figure approaches her.

Figure: Now now, Kennigit, whatever would your sister say if she knew you'd snuck off like this?

Kennigit: Oh, hey there. She'd say ' Don't go off on your own, and don't smoke, and go to bed early, things can be dangerous.'

Figure: Quite right, after all, you might get attacked by DEMONS!!!



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Kennigit is attacked and slain by the demon, as the figure watches.


Elsewhere in a bar, landlubber is slumped over the bar. A large figure comes crashing in. Everyone else runs screaming, but landlubber just lies there.

Large figure: Huh? That's strange.

The figure grabs landlubber. Landlubber starts to awaken and struggles, but the figure is too strong and simply crushes her in a lethal bear hug.

Large figure: Curious, I was expecting more of a fight.


Additionally, the next morning El Barto was nowhere to be found.


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Kennigit was Dawn!!
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landlubber was Faith!!!
El Barto has disappeared!



Begin Buffy Episode 4
Episode ends in just over 48 hours, at 1 PM EST 12/16/2011
Day Orders to me.



Living 16/25
Alsark
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Captain Blackadder
Daveshack
edse
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat
Seon
Thefluffyone


Dead 8/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell
landlubber- killed night 3 Faith
Kennigit- killed night 3 Dawn

Disappeared 1/25
El Barto

[edse]

So the possibly evil slayer and Buffy's sister. El Barto seems to have fulfilled his goals.

[Montmorency]

So El Barto was the big vig, or what? Hey big vig: if you're still out there, please contact me. That was a good shot N1, but you're kind of killing good people.

I am in contact with that certain individual, the scanner who caused trouble for me. I am still highly suspicious of him.

Hai guys, so guess what? I told my roleblocker that I would scan the individual I found to be the supposed scanner. And THE RESULT?

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

:bow:

Some fools best contact me fast, before I name names.

[Montmorency]

BTW, Kennigit was a location scanner. Cooperative. Probably not evil.

[Alsark]

So there's 16 players left... likely somewhere around 4 mafia. So on the plus side, we have a ~25% chance of lynching correctly; higher still if Montmorency is able to lead a successful lynch based off of his contact pool. I think we've got this :).

What kind of scanner are you, Montmorency?

And that's certainly interesting about the roleblocking. It would definitely be worth looking into; however, I'd say we should look into the roleblocker before the scanner. The reason being is that the roleblocker - if it was the same person, was trying to protect the scanner OR throw you off to generate chaos. This means that while the scanner could be the victim of mafia trickery, it's not very likely that the roleblocker is non-mafia if the scanner is mafia.

[Montmorency]

I'm just not sure anymore. He's the one who was "contacted" by the scanner, and hid it from me, went behind my back - and now roleblocked by him because I WANTED TO SCAN HIS SCANNER?

There are limits to faith.

I am an identity scanner. Make of that what you will.

[Montmorency]

So there's 16 players left... likely somewhere around 4 mafia.

Keep in mind that Mr. Trick, the lucky N1 hit, was definitely scum.

[Montmorency]

And that's certainly interesting about the roleblocking. It would definitely be worth looking into; however, I'd say we should look into the roleblocker before the scanner. The reason being is that the roleblocker - if it was the same person, was trying to protect the scanner OR throw you off to generate chaos. This means that while the scanner could be the victim of mafia trickery, it's not very likely that the roleblocker is non-mafia if the scanner is mafia.

Problem being, I can't trust one to vet the other. :shrug:

And I will note that this VC scanner has a role scanner (scanned Pizza N1) that he has not revealed to me yet.

[edse]

So you wanted to scan your scanner but got roleblocked by your roleblocker.

[Montmorency]

My roleblocker's scanner, let's call it.

[edse]

Ah, I see. sounds like your roleblocker wanted to infiltrate you organisation with the proposed scanner.

[Montmorency]

Mmmm, no. He was originally trying to hide the scanner from me. It took a lot of prying to find his identity.

[johnhughthom]

I might have missed it, but have you roleclaimed, Monty?

[edse]

Mmmm, no. He was originally trying to hide the scanner from me. It took a lot of prying to find his identity.

But do you know it is a scanner? Maybe he just want you to believe it's a scanner so he then could give you any result that fits their interest. So when you wanted to find out he roleblocked you so his lies wouldn't come forth.

[Montmorency]

You guys lynched Pizza on his word, so :shrug:

[edse]

I scanned Lewwyn, he is Dracula.

What did the scanner claim that Pizza was, could he just have misinprented the result?

[johnhughthom]

I might have missed it, but have you roleclaimed, Monty?

:juggle2:

[Montmorency]

He claimed that his VC was to kill the humans, as scanned on N2.

JHT, really? I've done so twice by now. Second time should be on this page or the previous. Don't be lazy.

[johnhughthom]

He claimed that his VC was to kill the humans, as scanned on N2.

JHT, really? I've done so twice by now. Second time should be on this page or the previous. Don't be lazy.

Lazy! Have you any idea how many pms I'm receiving about Westeros? How many QTs I have to keep up with!? And you expect me to search through a thread? Stuff that.

Meh, looked through a load of pages and couldn't find it. Unless that Master thing was a soft claim? I'm not looking through 115 posts.

[Montmorency]

:snobby:

More importantly -

what the :daisy: is this, edse?






Thanks for the info edse, I didn't know you were talking with Monty, let keep it that way!

But I don't want to talk with him :no: He is town aligned :furious3:

Ehhh.... what the ....

[Montmorency]

Here, John. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?139248-Buffy-Mafia-2-A-Slayer-s-Work-Game-Thread-In-Play&p=2053403724&highlight=lorne#post2053403724)

[johnhughthom]

Here, John. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?139248-Buffy-Mafia-2-A-Slayer-s-Work-Game-Thread-In-Play&p=2053403724&highlight=lorne#post2053403724)

You. Big. Fat. Liar.

[Montmorency]

Explain.

[edse]

:snobby:

More importantly -

what the :daisy: is this, edse?



Ah, okey. I thought he was evil and wanted to speak with him.

I got vibes from his second message to me.
Thats TLD, not you and somebody solved that problem already!

My interest on you is not about you being mafia, but if you are and want to tell me your welcome :P

No. My interest in you is as town or independent party, if you are... of course... but lets talk next day ;)


And this sounded like he was angry on me and didn't want to speak with me because i spoke with you.

Thanks for the info edse, I didn't know you were talking with Monty, let keep it that way!
So I just wanted to play along with him and sent him that.

[Montmorency]

Guy,s guys, guys.

Let me say this again: before you go all lone wolf and create headaches for everyone, could you just run things by me first?

[Riedquat]

Guy,s guys, guys.

Let me say this again: before you go all lone wolf and create headaches for everyone, could you just run things by me first?


No!

No? :hide:

[thefluffyone93]

Guy,s guys, guys.

Let me say this again: before you go all lone wolf and create headaches for everyone, could you just run things by me first?


Nope.

I trust no one.

[Montmorency]

Good responses, you two.

But fluffy - I need you!

Join me, and we can make this the Fluffy Mafia!!!

[El Barto]

Uhm, am I still allowed to post? :book2:

[johnhughthom]

Uhm, am I still allowed to post? :book2:

No, go away.

[Montmorency]

Yes. Did you kill landlubber?

[El Barto]

I haven't killed anyone, am 100% Innocent, have no items, and no abilities, am obviously human, and I haven't used any of my items or abilities.

And it's claret.

[Erebus]

Yes. Did you kill landlubber?

No offense, but what gives you the right to make this rules call?

El Barto has disappeared, I'd assume he'd have gotten some sort of PM from Autolycus. I thought he might have been WOGGed as he didn't vote day 1 or day 2, but I forgot he voted ATPG on day 3.

However, the dead aren't allowed to communicate, so that might apply to whatever is affect him now as well.

On the other hand, Edse is confusing me.

He claimed he wanted to lynch Lewwyn but listened to lewwyn to lynch pizza, and now he claims Lewwyn is Dracula. Is this a joke? (For the record Dracula did appear in the Buffy Series, so you should be clear).

He seems to be saying one thing but going the other. How many name seers do we have? Seems a little much huh? Did you scan Lewwyn last night based on your previous day suspicions? Why did you vote for Pizza at the request of your number 1 suspect?

Vote: Edse

[Montmorency]

I scanned Lewwyn, he is Dracula.

He is being sarcastic. His real claim is that he looking for his lover Xander. Harmless enough.

[Captain Blackadder]

I say whomever told the people that ATPG was wanting to kill all humans should be up on the block.It is clear that he was lying and townies should have no reason to lie as it only serves to confuse town.

[Montmorency]

Well, here are the people I know nothing about, for the record:

Alsark
Erebus
Fluffy
Ironside

I know something of these dodgy two; the one who implicated Pizza scanned BSmith, but is withholding the result:

BSmith
Daveshack

Abilities, but not characters:

Atheotes
JHT
Seon

Vote: Ironside

Talk to me. You can't just pop in once a day to vote anymore.

[Alsark]

I say whomever told the people that ATPG was wanting to kill all humans should be up on the block.It is clear that he was lying and townies should have no reason to lie as it only serves to confuse town.

Keep in mind that conversions are likely present in this round - so just because somebody ends up being a particular role when they die doesn't mean that their victory conditions are the same as what they originally were.

Like I said earlier, it would perhaps make more sense to lynch the roleblocker protecting the scanner rather than the scanner himself. If the scanner is mafia, the roleblocker probably is, too; however, the roleblocker can be mafia without the scanner being mafia (in order to generate confusion).

And Edse, were you in fact kidding about Lewwyn being Dracula?

[Montmorency]

Well, I forgot to mention: another roleblocker, one I wasn't aware of, revealed to me and claimed to have blocked me. In which case, my blocker would be guilty only of disobeying orders. How likely it is that he disobeyed my order to block landlubber (which a third blocker claims to have done as well), I can't really say.

[edse]

And Edse, were you in fact kidding about Lewwyn being Dracula?

I was indeed joking. I didn't now there was a possibility that he could be Dracula. Sorry for that.

[atheotes]

So far we have:
N1:
Large figure - Killed with stake - mr.Trick (TLD)
Coated figure calling Demon - Killed Connor (Jarema)

N2:
Coated figure calling Demon - Killed Oz (Csargo)
Figure - Killed with wicked-looking knife - Virginia Bryce (Kage)

N2:
Coated figure calling Demon - Killed Dawn (Kennigit)
Large Figure - crushes with lethal bear hug - Faith (Landlubber)

So the one Demon summoner has not been role-blockled on any of the nights.
We dont know if we have one or 2 vigs/SKs. Pizza claimed he was attacked, which would mean 2. the write up cites figure/large figure. These 2 pts are the only evidence we have of there being 2 Vigs/SKs. Correct me if i am wrong.

Monty has claimed to know 3(?) role blockers. It is intirguing that we havent managed a single role-block on any of the killers. Monty, now that you know all the 3 role-blocker why dont you compile what they did for 3 nights?

[atheotes]

I say whomever told the people that ATPG was wanting to kill all humans should be up on the block.It is clear that he was lying and townies should have no reason to lie as it only serves to confuse town.

How is it clear that he was lying? Please elaborate.

[Montmorency]

Csargio was also attacked by the large figure.

[edse]

At night two a demon attacked Csargo but he was killed by the Large Figure.

It took me 8 minutes to write that.

The demon summoner (or one of them if there's more) is most likely a girl.

The Coated Figure turns and walks away, shaking her head sadly, dismissing the demon with a wave of his hand.

"His" is more likely to be wrong than "her"

[Captain Blackadder]

How is it clear that he was lying? Please elaborate.

It makes no sense with what the character reveal indicates and with his stated objective been kill all humans rather then a convert friendly say kill the slayers or kill all threats to your boss etc to me indicates that it was made up based on what may well have been ATPG's actual objective kill all demons.

[Montmorency]

"His" is more likely to be wrong than "her"

Neither is wrong. This is intentional.

As anyone with an ability can tell you, the host refers to just about everyone with both genders.

[Alsark]

I kinda thought everybody here was male anyway.

[Riedquat]

I kinda thought everybody here was male anyway.

How boring!

Now if you excuse me, I need to take care of an eyebrow rising attack... there is something really odd posted in this page and makes me wonder why I am the only one noticing it...

[autolycus]

Important notice:
Today will end in just over 28 hours. The following night will be a regular 24 hour night. The next day will be a 48 hour day as usual. However, I am catching a flight to China on Sunday for two weeks, and I am not sure of my internet status there. I think I will have access, although the start and end time will likely shift to be more convenient for China time, but if I haven't posted by Wednesday, we should assume I don't have internet access, so please lock the thread and I will message the mods when I get back.

[Montmorency]

How boring!

Now if you excuse me, I need to take care of an eyebrow rising attack... there is something really odd posted in this page and makes me wonder why I am the only one noticing it...

What is it?

[Riedquat]

What is it?

I've told you already! :stare:

[atheotes]

Csargio was also attacked by the large figure.
At night two a demon attacked Csargo but he was killed by the Large Figure. It took me 8 minutes to write that. The demon summoner (or one of them if there's more) is most likely a girl. "His" is more likely to be wrong than "her" Oops.. thanks for pointing that out. SO there are TWO vigs/SKs.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Ironside.

Tell us stuff.

[Montmorency]

You know what, let's back off for now.

Unvote: Ironside

Vote: Erebus

Give me a line.

[Montmorency]

JESUS.

Unvote;

Alsark, Fkuffy - Come on!

[johnhughthom]

:stare:

unvote

I don't like following indecisive people...

[Arjos]

Vote: thefluffyone93

An untrolling fluffy is a mafia fluffy :D

[Alsark]

JESUS.

Unvote;

Alsark, Fkuffy - Come on!

Come on as in vote, or come on as in give you my role? Lol. I'll get around the former once I get back from dinner, but the latter isn't going to happen unless I have a really good reason to.

[Captain Blackadder]

I kinda thought everybody here was male anyway.

ahem the show is called Buffy the Vampire Slayer I think it would be very safe to assume there are multiple girls in this game.

Vote: Edse Unless I am given good reason to change my vote I will stick with this one Edse has being acting off from what at least I think a townie should be acting way too jokey and the like.

[thefluffyone93]

JESUS.

Unvote;

Alsark, Fkuffy - Come on!

Vote: Montmorency
Spelling.


Vote: thefluffyone93

An untrolling fluffy is a mafia fluffy :D

Well.....sorrrrrrry I have finals to contend with!
Guess who just failed calculus?

[Riedquat]

Come on as in vote, or come on as in give you my role? Lol. I'll get around the former once I get back from dinner, but the latter isn't going to happen unless I have a really good reason to.

A good reason eh?

I command you to reveal your role to Montmorency! :vampire:

[Arjos]

Well.....sorrrrrrry I have finals to contend with!
Guess who just failed calculus?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI

^^

Unvote

I hate math lol

[BSmith]

Alright, I am thoroughly confused as to who to vote for or what the current tally is, given all the voting and un-voting going on. Anyone care to give me a synopsis?

vote: abstain for now.

[Alsark]

Alright, so I've looked through things and I'm going with:

Vote: Arjos

He has, in total, voted/unvoted six times (not counting the D1 random vote)... and all of the votes he has made, as far as I can tell, have exhibited little to no logic. He votes Kagemusha for being roleblocked (and Kage ended up town), votes Lewwyn... for... no explained reason at all, votes Seon for lurking (while not making any substantial contributions of his own), then votes for Fluffy saying only that Fluffy must be mafia because Fluffy is not trolling (is this actually a legitimate case? I don't know Fluffy). And he keeps unvoting whenever he does make a vote (unvoted Kage in favor of Lewwyn, and unvoted Fluffy just now). Maybe this is how he always plays, but from somebody who isn't familiar with any of you, it doesn't make any sense to me.

Source: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/search.php?searchid=8430887

I know, I know... "STFU, Alsark, you haven't even voted once!" Finals week/the week before finals will do that to 'ya. Now that finals are done I will be more active. Also, I'm just throwing my thoughts out there.

So Arjos, do you have any real thoughts on the round? Ones that aren't random votes? And to everybody else - what is your opinion on Arjos?

[Arjos]

I'm not voting on serious cases, as there are none, so far people have lynched disastrously...

You vote around and see how people react, by those reactions you try to figure what they are up to...

But you might be on to something, so I'm with you: Vote: Arjos

[Ishmael]

Alsark's argument didn't really sway me (it tends to fit me as well), but come on Arjos. We can't let you get away with that.

vote: Arjos.

Frankly I have no idea who is scum at present, so the self-voter will do. I also apologise again for my semi-inactivity, but I'll be back to normal on about the 20th.

[Arjos]

Unvote; Vote: Ishmael

Jumping asap on an easy vote, while acknowledging the bogusness of the theory behind it and the "sorry, I'm back" bla bla bla that I hate XD

[Lewwyn]

Vote: Ironside

Pressure goes where pressure is due.

[Montmorency]

Guys - all your votes are bad. Stop that.

Do not vote Ishmael.

Do not vote Ironside.

Do not vote Arjos.

Vote: Fluffy

That is my final vote unless he spills the beans. Unknowns go first. :bow:

[Lewwyn]

Unvote; Vote: Fluffy

[edse]

Vote: Fluffy

That is my final vote unless he spills the beans. Unknowns go first. :bow:
Do you have knowledge of every important persons?


Unless I am given good reason to change my vote I will stick with this one Edse has being acting off from what at least I think a townie should be acting way too jokey and the like. I went insane two weeks ago, that's why I have been acting weird. I voted ATPG so that the one leading the lynch, Lewwyn, would be hanged next. I have now made up my mind about him. Now I'm just following Montmorency as I believe he's acting for the towns best.

[atheotes]

Are these votes just to get him to reveal or do you guys have anything on him?

[Montmorency]

He refuses to say anything. Now, when I know everyone's claims, it is easier to really begin vetting the entire population. A precondition for this is the absence of all unknown elements.

Accordingly, we must act to eliminate unknowns where they exist. By whatever means are left to us.

Fluffy being fluffy, I think he will stubbornly go to his death just to say he confounded me. :shame:

[atheotes]

He refuses to say anything. Now, when I know everyone's claims, it is easier to really begin vetting the entire population. A precondition for this is the absence of all unknown elements.

Accordingly, we must act to eliminate unknowns where they exist. By whatever means are left to us.

Fluffy being fluffy, I think he will stubbornly go to his death just to say he confounded me. :shame:

I hope you have been continuosly vetting people from N1...waiting for everyone to reveal might prove to be fatal.

[Montmorency]

I only got going on D2, remember.

[Ironside]

Vote: Fluffy

Might as well.

[Riedquat]

Umm...

Vote: Thefluffyone93

[Arjos]

So the untrolling fluffy had a dirty conscious afterall :P

Unvote; Vote: thefluffyone93

[atheotes]

I only got going on D2, remember.


Fair enough...I hope you are right about this one.

Vote: thefluffyone93

[BSmith]

Wow. Another run-away bandwagon for all the scum to hide in. :2thumbsup:

[johnhughthom]

Wow. Another run-away bandwagon for all the scum to hide in. :2thumbsup:

I was thinking just the same thing. Vote: Arjos

[Montmorency]

At this point, BSmith - unless fluffy and Alsark really are between a rock and a hard place - all the Mafia have "infiltrated" my group.

[Riedquat]

At this point, BSmith - unless fluffy and Alsark really are between a rock and a hard place - all the Mafia have "infiltrated" my group.

Phew!! Lucky me... I've never joined... :clown:

I think tonight I will change my schedule... I'm in the mood to bite some buns...

[thefluffyone93]

A'ight, I see how it is.

I just revealed myself to monty.

I can haz unvote?

[Montmorency]

You put me in a hard place here, Fluffy.

Vey iz you, Fluffy. Vey iz you.

[johnhughthom]

unvote, Vote: fluffy the brutal unrefined psychopath.

[Riedquat]

Tally please? And how much time left... exactly?

[edse]

8 Fluffy: Monmorency, Lewwyn, edse, Ironside, Riedquat, Arjos, atheotes, jht
2 edse: Erebus, CB
2 Arjos: Alsark, Ishmael
1 Montmorency: Fluffy

abstain: BSmith

10 minutes left

[Arjos]

thefluffyone93: 8 (Montmorency, Lewwyn, edse, Ironside, Riedquant, Arjos, atheotes, johnhughthom)
edse: 2 (Erebus, Captain Blackadder)
Arjos: 1 (Ishmael) and invalid vote by Alsark.
Montmorency: 1 (thefluffyone93)
Abstain: 1 (BSmith)

Alsark vote's post was edited...

Edit: ugh 3 minutes too late :P
Still good doublecheck :)

[johnhughthom]

That's why I always post "Tallying" before I start doing it. :wink:

[Riedquat]

:no: Not again...

Edit: thanks for the tallies!

[autolycus]

Buffy Season 1, Episode 4

A bus rolls into town. Thefluffyone's voice can be heard.
TheFluffyone: I left L.A. in search of a better world, the land of opportunity that it never was. My friend was supposed to meet me in Sacramento, but he never showed. Last I knew, he was here. And now I am, and whoever hurt him, I'll make them pay. All I have left is my crew.

Cue Opening Credits

Buffy is patrolling, but the vamps don't seem to be around. Something, or someone, is dusting them before her. Finally, she arrives at a large nest, she walks in, and there is vamp dust everywhere. The doors swing shut with a clang. Thefluffyone drops down from the ceiling.

Thefluffyone: You killed him! You killed him, and left the demon! I suppose I shouldn't expect any better from the woman who slept with not one, but two vampires. Well, this time you went too far. I'm restoring sanity to the world, starting here!

Thefluffyone pulls out an ax, and charges at Buffy. Buffy kicks him in the chest and stakes him.
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Thefluffyone: Man, what is it with this town. Forget about jobs, a brother can't even last three weeks without getting killed!


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Thefluffyone was Gunn!

Begin Night 4
Night ends in just over 24 hours, at 2:30 pm EST



Vote Count

thefluffyone93: 8 (Montmorency, Lewwyn, edse, Ironside, Riedquant, Arjos, atheotes, johnhughthom)
edse: 2 (Erebus, Captain Blackadder)
Arjos: 1 (Ishmael)
Montmorency: 1 (thefluffyone93)
Abstain: 1 (BSmith)




Living 15/25
Alsark
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Captain Blackadder
Daveshack
edse
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat
Seon



Dead 9/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell
landlubber- killed night 3 Faith
Kennigit- killed night 3 Dawn
TheFluffyOne- lynched day 4 Gunn

Disappeared 1/25
El Barto

[johnhughthom]

Thefluffyone:I suppose I shouldn't expect any better from the woman who slept with not one, but two vampires.

At the same time? Dirty Buffy.

[Alsark]

So was he a good guy or a bad guy? It seems like his character jumped all over the place in the Wiki. Good -> Bad -> Good? So he was probably good.

See? Following a random lynch by somebody who random lynchs against people who don't claim to him when all of the mafia have probably fake-claimed to him anyway isn't a very good idea. Guess I'm next if this trend continues - because I still refuse to claim to a "town watch" that is clearly infiltrated by the mafia.

[thefluffyone93]

Welp.......

This is what I get for having finals.....

Time to laugh with Pizza as the town crumbles!

[Montmorency]

Welp.......

This is what I get for having finals.....

Time to laugh with Pizza as the town crumbles!

*coughs*



See? Following a random lynch by somebody who random lynchs against people who don't claim to him when all of the mafia have probably fake-claimed to him anyway isn't a very good idea. Guess I'm next if this trend continues - because I still refuse to claim to a "town watch" that is clearly infiltrated by the mafia.

Did I ever say he was Mafia? In fact, he revealed as Gunn to me, but by then it was too late.

And I was obliged to see it through at that point.

[Riedquat]

Well... I almost feel sorry for lynching fluffy/Gunn but the write up seems to indicate he wasn't a good guy...

Alsark what you fail to get is at this point everyone has revealed except you...

[Riedquat]

Ignore...
Remove...
Attempt to kill my ISP...

[Alsark]

*coughs*



Did I ever say he was Mafia? In fact, he revealed as Gunn to me, but by then it was too late.

And I was obliged to see it through at that point.

I didn't say that you did say it was mafia - but it was a random lynch - and a possibly incorrect one (but it's hard to tell based on the Wiki).


Well... I almost feel sorry for lynching fluffy/Gunn but the write up seems to indicate he wasn't a good guy...

Alsark what you fail to get is at this point everyone has revealed except you...

No, I don't fail to get that. What I do fail to get is why everybody is so blindly claiming, and why somebody claiming must automatically make them immune to Mont's ability to make an instant auto-bandwagon. Keep in mind, if Mont has been converted (or was never town to begin with), then you're all basically allowing Mont to lynch whoever he wants to. Mont himself has even said that by this point, the mafia has no doubt infiltrated his town watch... so... why claim to a town watch that has been infiltrated by the mafia? Further, if at least 4-5 of his claims are from non-townies anyway, it's not as though he has legitimate claims.

[Montmorency]

Mont himself has even said that by this point, the mafia has no doubt infiltrated his town watch... so... why claim to a town watch that has been infiltrated by the mafia? Further, if at least 4-5 of his claims are from non-townies anyway, it's not as though he has legitimate claims.

Let me walk you through:

A.Everyone in the game is part of my network. The game is still on. Ergo, I have been infiltrated.
Addendum. You are not in my network.

B. What about the other 10 claims? And 4-5 is a lot of Mafia at this point. Know anything about it?

[Alsark]

B. What about the other 10 claims? And 4-5 is a lot of Mafia at this point. Know anything about it?

Of course that's a lot of mafia, but it's not a lot of non-townies. No doubt, there are some non-townie neutral roles. So 4-5 sounds about right to me.

[Montmorency]

Neutrals count toward a town victory.

[Montmorency]

I get the feeling that the N1 death of Mr. Trick crippled the Mafia.

[johnhughthom]

I get the feeling that the N1 death of Mr. Trick crippled the Mafia.

I have a feeling your feeling is foolish.

[Montmorency]

Mmm? You claim Mafia?

[Alsark]

Neutrals count toward a town victory.

Not if they make a deal with the mafia.


Game-end clarification: Neutrals count against scum victory unless/until all Innocents are dead.

From the sounds of that, essentially any neutral can side with the mafia, so long as the mafia kills the townies off first. It basically ends up being a matter of personal preference for the neutral or depends on what their victory condition is. But they won't stop the game from ending in and of themselves for either party.

Source: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?139248-Buffy-Mafia-2-A-Slayer-s-Work-Game-Thread-In-Play&p=2053401878&viewfull=1#post2053401878

[johnhughthom]

Mmm? You claim Mafia?

Am I supposed to answer this?

[Erebus]

I have a feeling... it could be bunnies...

[Erebus]

Oh wait, I think it was "theory", not "feeling".

[Montmorency]

Am I supposed to answer this?

If you'd like to.


From the sounds of that, essentially any neutral can side with the mafia, so long as the mafia kills the townies off first. It basically ends up being a matter of personal preference for the neutral or depends on what their victory condition is. But they won't stop the game from ending in and of themselves for either party.

It means neutrals win with whoever is left standing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

:laugh4:

This is such a cluster. You guys want to reveal the part where I got lynched because the game host did not word the scan on myself correctly, meaning the exact opposite of what it was supposed to?


Oh my. I was hoping I got screwed over by brilliant play on the scum's part, instead.... killed via host error. Don't even blame the people responsible for my death, because they weren't, really... I never had a chance.


Now Gunn is dead? Awesome. Is Buffy next? We could make this the worst game ever for the town, but we've still got a lot to do to catch up to Midgard III which I'm sorry I am even mentioning. Still makes me weep.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Have I mentioned I hate detective roles recently?

[Montmorency]

Town's victory is nearly complete, Pizza.

Don't you worry.

:mellow:

[Captain Blackadder]

:laugh4:

This is such a cluster. You guys want to reveal the part where I got lynched because the game host did not word the scan on myself correctly, meaning the exact opposite of what it was supposed to?


Oh my. I was hoping I got screwed over by brilliant play on the scum's part, instead.... killed via host error. Don't even blame the people responsible for my death, because they weren't, really... I never had a chance.


Now Gunn is dead? Awesome. Is Buffy next? We could make this the worst game ever for the town, but we've still got a lot to do to catch up to Midgard III which I'm sorry I am even mentioning. Still makes me weep.

I've forgotten what happened in that game. I know it doesn't look good for town right now we only have taken down one scum from the looks of things since I would say Gunn was town. On top of that the one scum we did get came from a first night random attack.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Also you folks confused by his and her, this game is intentionally ambiguous when referring to gender. The game host habitually refers to everyone as he AND she at the same time, in alternate sentences.

But anyway.

[Lewwyn]

:laugh4:

This is such a cluster. You guys want to reveal the part where I got lynched because the game host did not word the scan on myself correctly, meaning the exact opposite of what it was supposed to?


Oh my. I was hoping I got screwed over by brilliant play on the scum's part, instead.... killed via host error. Don't even blame the people responsible for my death, because they weren't, really... I never had a chance.


This makes me happy. Means technically I wasn't wrong and technically made the right play. I only switched to vote for you because of the scan.

[johnhughthom]

Also you folks confused by his and her, this game is intentionally ambiguous when referring to gender. The game host habitually refers to everyone as he AND she at the same time, in alternate sentences.

Pfft, who doesn't know that? Only an idiot would have based anything on gender in their results.

[Lewwyn]

"wants to kill all demons"
"wants to kill all humans"
same dif.
:2thumbsup:

[Captain Blackadder]

"wants to kill all demons"
"wants to kill all humans"
same dif.
:2thumbsup:

tomato, tomatoe what's the difference?

[johnhughthom]

tomato, tomatoe what's the difference?

One of them is spelt incorrectly?


Rhetorical eh?



Seven!

[edse]

Pfft, who doesn't know that? Only an idiot would have based anything on gender in their results.

Or a noob like me.

[Captain Blackadder]

One of them is spelt incorrectly?


Rhetorical eh?



Seven!

It is very hard to try and show different pronunciations of words. Your a big meany :bigcry: lol

[Askthepizzaguy]

This makes me happy. Means technically I wasn't wrong and technically made the right play. I only switched to vote for you because of the scan.

Don't blame yourself man. You're right, you made the right play under those circumstances. I was also being an :daisy: and I had it coming. But with the scan, I mean how could you not? It was looking like I was lying about my victory conditions and only mafia do that, unless their name is Montmorency or The Spartan. Plus being anti-human would mean I'm against most people here, so everyone would want me dead.

You guys can come back from this. Just need those vigs to hit their targets. Hurry-up offense and all that.


I wish there was a "game host blew the detective result" hand signal I could use, where if I ever use it when that's not the case, I get lynched round one for the next 10 games.

[Montmorency]

Don't blame yourself man. You're right, you made the right play under those circumstances. I was also being an and I had it coming. But with the scan, I mean how could you not? It was looking like I was lying about my victory conditions and only mafia do that, unless their name is Montmorency or The Spartan. Plus being anti-human would mean I'm against most people here, so everyone would want me dead.


EH? When have I ever?

[Askthepizzaguy]

EH? When have I ever?

Three Wolf Moon.


It's happened before.

Also, congrats to Pizza. You really can call out a mafioso. :evil:


I confessed because I am mafia. I thought that was obvious.

Over and over again, not letting up until we had won the game by lynching the other people I accused besides you, mister confessor.

[Montmorency]

:grin:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Although...

You might suggest that the much-needed morale boost of lynching a mafioso is what gave the townies the courage to listen to pizzaguy again and lynch the actual scums.

So in a sense, you helped us win by making us think we were winning. :smile:



No, actually, I'm just kidding. Never do that stuff again. :brood:

[Alsark]

For anybody who hasn't seen Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol yet... do it. Do it now - or Tom Cruise will jump all over your couch.

[Montmorency]

Looks like scum just got countered.

If you can't jam with the best, then die like the rest.

Results to me, comrades.

[Alsark]

And it looks like Mont has sent his mindless goons to kill me off. Good job, guys. Yet another failed vig-hit.

[BSmith]

I assume you guys are talking about the update… but I don’t see it? :inquisitive:

[johnhughthom]

Monty must have received his mafia kill order result.

[Montmorency]

After he departs, you close up for the night, but as you are leaving, you are tackled by a mysterious figure. You would complain, but a giant, was that a worm?, something just bit down right where you were. The figure picks you back up and helps you start running as the figure turns back and joins another figure with an ax in combatting the monster.
Addendum: You get home, make a cup of tea, and are suddenly grabbed by another figure who sits you down, sticks a knife in your face and tells you to start talking. You do, babbling on and on about just wanting a little peace and security here in L.A.


Citizens of the Buffyverse, my fellow townies, on this day we mark a transition. For a thousand years, LA stood as the crowning achievement of civilized beings. But there were those who would set us against one another, and we took up arms to defend our way of life against the demon-scum. In so doing, we never suspected that the greatest threat came from within.

These have been trying times, but we have passed the test. The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed, but I assure you my resolve has never been stronger. The war is not over. The demons have not been defeated, and the internal power struggle has not been foiled. We stand on the threshold of a new beginning. In order to ensure your security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Townie Empire, for a safe and secure society, which I assure you will last for ten thousand years. An Empire that will continue to be ruled by this august GM and a sovereign ruler chosen for life.

By bringing the entire city under one law, one language, and the enlightened guidance of one individual, the corruption that plagued the Town in its earlier years will never again take root. A strong and growing military will ensure the rule of law.

Under the Empire's New Order, our most cherished beliefs will be safeguarded. We will defend our ideals by force of arms. We will give no ground to our enemies and will stand together against attacks from within or without. Let the enemies of the Empire take heed: those who challenge Imperial resolve will be crushed.

Imperial citizens must do their part. Join our grand network. Become the eyes of the Empire by reporting suspected insurrectionists.

Many have died in their devotion to the Empire. Imperial citizens would do well to remember their example.

The New Order of peace has triumphed over the shadowy furtiveness of shameful individualism. The direction of our course is clear. I will lead the Empire to glories beyond imagining.

We have been tested, but we have emerged stronger. We move forward as one people: the Imperial citizens of the first Townie Empire. We will prevail. Ten thousand years of peace begins today.

[johnhughthom]

:inquisitive:

[Seon]

Don't worry about the snake monster, Montremancy. That was me, just trying to say hi.

[Alsark]

I assume you guys are talking about the update… but I don’t see it? :inquisitive:

I was informed of my being night hit via PM.

[autolycus]

Angel Season 1, Episode 4: Killing in the Streets
Once again, my apologies to Atpg for my mix-up.

Angel stalks the streets alone, dressed a little more brightly than usual. He hears a scream in a nearby house, and goes to investigate


He spots Spike in the hall, and is about to challenge him when there's another scream behind a door and the door swings open.


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Angel: You'd better not be behind this.

Spike: Wasn't me, guv'nor.

Commence opening music.


Meanwhile, Seon roams the town restlessly, when he encounters a figure

Figure: You look like a challenge, but you shall die!

Seon: Ahhh!

and Seon attacked the figure, but eventually was pinned and chopped into several pieces.


Cut back to Angel and Spike. They enter the room, only to find a man jumping up and down with joy on the phone

I still can't believe you guys are giving me the job, thank you so much!

Angel: Uhmm, we'll just be leaving now.

Man: Who are you?

Elsewhere in town, [B]Alsark is just getting off the phone with someone, when she hears a knock at the door. She opens it.

Alsark: My god! What, who are you?

She is met with a hail of lead, and falls.



[SPoil] 3290
Alsark was Justine!

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Seon was Mayor Wilkins!

Begin Buffy Episode 5
Day ends in about 48 hours, at 4 pm EST.
Results may be somewhat delayed by me being in China.
I'll try to post if I won't be able to continue running the game.

Living 13/25
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Captain Blackadder
Daveshack
edse
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat



Dead 11/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell
landlubber- killed night 3 Faith
Kennigit- killed night 3 Dawn
TheFluffyOne- lynched day 4 Gunn
Alsark- killed night 4 Justine
Seon- killed night 4 Mayor

Disappeared 1/25
El Barto

[thefluffyone93]

Can there just be another mafia game where I can be Joker? Just one more?

PLEASE?

[Alsark]

Oh, maybe the mafia killed me and the vigilante killed Seon. If that's the case, then uh... congrats?

[Montmorency]

Oh Seon. "Third roleblocker, and blocked landlubber N3". Did you really think I would believe that?

Atheotes, Alsark : it was your own intransigence that led to this. I told you atheotes, I told you dawg - I told you about decisions!

[Alsark]

Oh Seon. "Third roleblocker, and blocked landlubber N3". Did you really think I would believe that?

Atheotes, Alsark : it was your own intransigence that led to this. I told you atheotes, I told you dawg - I told you about decisions!

Well you only screwed yourself over - because I found some very valuable information last night, which I can now share with nobody. Good day, Sir.

[Montmorency]

I only resorted to this because you wouldn't work with me. At least atheotes shared results.

You don't think it pains me to have to do this? When it is in my VC to help others fulfill theirs? :shame:

And you, atheotes. You scanned me, against orders. Satisfied now? Well, I'm satisfied with you, Holtz. But it should not have come to this.

Vote: edse

I'm afraid there is no Xander here.

[Alsark]

*Shrugs.* I see no reason to share info in a round where conversions are quite likely. So I don't regret a thing :).

[Montmorency]

OOC: I didn't mean to become like Pizza. It just happened. The power went to my head. :embarassed:

It's no fun being reviled when you're supposed to be good. After this phase, I will hand down all responsibilities to Buffy.

[johnhughthom]

So those kills were bad for the town?

[Montmorency]

Mmmmm...


Richard Wilkins III was the Mayor of Sunnydale. A sorcerer bent on becoming a pure-breed demon, Wilkins had made a number of pacts with demons to obtain immortality as well as his power-base, though his public persona was that of a charismatic, conservative and pleasant family man.

[johnhughthom]

So it was one of your lackeys killed him? What about the other kill, townie?

[Montmorency]

Dual-kill vig. He leveled up.

Actually, I should mention: with these kills he now has a triple-vig.

Worried yet, scums?

[johnhughthom]

I couldn't tell whether Justine was good or bad from the wiki.

I did like this though, telling a certain someone he was "banging the enemy and keeping slave girl in his closet". :cool2:

[Montmorency]

Wait, who?

Oh, that Wesley. Oh, that - WAIT A MINUTE :stare:

[Montmorency]

These have been trying times, but we have passed the test. The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed,

This is no joke, guys. This is what I look like now.

http://images.wikia.com/buffy/images/1/13/Lorne.empathic.subconscious.jpg

[edse]

Montmorency has lost faith in me :(

My objective is to find Xander and kill him. I haven't found him yet.

Vote: Captain Blackadder I have nothing better to do :huh:

[edse]

To be perfectly clear... I claim Anya Emerson (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Anya)

[Montmorency]

Captain B claims Cordelia Chase.

Alright, then. I supposedly know all of your roles, except for Daveshack's. But he denies being Xander.

:thinking:

So then, Xander: here is Anya, your lover. If you are indeed here, after having died in the previous game, then step forth, and reveal yourself. Be reunited with your Anya. Walk off into the sunset together. I will not hinder you.

But this is a 48 hour phase.

So unless and until that takes place, I strongly recommend a lynch of edse.

[Captain Blackadder]

I have got to say despite my voting for Edse for the past couple of rounds and it being considered Scummy to keep on voting for the same person I have to say

Vote: Edse

Also Monty what did Seon claim to you let's see if there is any link between Scum claims and anyone still left.

[Montmorency]

Seon had a terribly weak claim.

He claimed to be a corruptible roleblocker, who blocked landlubber (:rolleyes:) on N3. He refused to block for me.

Also, check my Empire-declaration post: I was attacked by a "worm".


you would complain, but a giant, was that a worm?, something just bit down right where you were.

Check this out:


A Sluggoth demon is a wormlike natural predator demon resembling a giant maggot. The Sluggoth has one large mouth which can expand the width of its body, allowing it to consume large creatures whole. It can burrow through the ground very fast and snatch small pray and burst trough the ground to take bigger.

According to Spike, the species had supposedly become extinct around the time of the crusades.

Anya once transformed an abusive boyfriend into a sluggoth demon when his girlfriend wished he was a worm, but undid the spell.

[Captain Blackadder]

Seon had a terribly weak claim.

He claimed to be a corruptible roleblocker, who blocked landlubber (:rolleyes:) on N3. He refused to block for me.

Also, check my Empire-declaration post: I was attacked by a "worm".



Check this out:

All right Edse is most certainly scum good job everyone after a few false starts with fluffy and pizza it looks like things are on the up.

[Riedquat]

Monty.... :stare:
What the heck was that post in pink? pink?!!?? Also.. I think you are forgetting something of geographical importance in your delirium...

Yeah... Xander dude... come forward.. what can happen to you? You're already...dead...muerto...tieso...fiambre...finado...kaput..

Edse perhaps you can clarify, to me at least, your VC.... there is something I don't understand or I'm getting it very wrong...

[Montmorency]

What the heck was that post in pink? pink?!!?? Also.. I think you are forgetting something of geographical importance in your delirium...


:inquisitive::shrug:

[edse]

Edse perhaps you can clarify, to me at least, your VC.... there is something I don't understand or I'm getting it very wrong...

I scan people for Xander yes/no. When I find him I can kill him.

I did not attack you Monty, why would I?

[Montmorency]

Well, Daveshack, it's up to you. What do you claim to be anyway?

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Cpt B

[Riedquat]

When I find him I can kill him.

Perhaps he don't want to be killed... :shrug:

[Captain Blackadder]

Monty I would also say that if you know who faith is I would strongly look at lynching her with both Mr Trick and the Mayor being in the game I would suspect that Faith this time around is scummy faith.

[Montmorency]

Monty I would also say that if you know who faith is I would strongly look at lynching her with both Mr Trick and the Mayor being in the game I would suspect that Faith this time around is scummy faith.

Faith was landlubber.

[Captain Blackadder]

Faith was landlubber.

Whoops I should really remember who is already dead. I guess that means if we kill Anya and she is scum we could see the end of the Buffy Season since 4 scum seems about the right number considering there has to be scum on the LA side.

[Montmorency]

How could Faith have been scum? She was killed by the Mafia demon.

[edse]

How could Faith have been scum? She was killed by the Mafia demon.

I thought that the Large Figure were good and Faith evil.

[Montmorency]

Ah, right. Kennigit was killed by the vig.

Good catch. The Mafia is indeed crippled. Let's deal the final blow today.

[edse]

Whoops I should really remember who is already dead. I guess that means if we kill Anya and she is scum we could see the end of the Buffy Season since 4 scum seems about the right number considering there has to be scum on the LA side.

This. Is it true that the Mafia is split up evenly on the towns? As far as I can understand Mr Trick, Faith, Wilkins and me are all from Sunnydale.

And you misunderstood my last post.


So far we have:
N1:
Large figure - Killed with stake - mr.Trick (TLD)
Coated figure calling Demon - Killed Connor (Jarema)

N2:
Coated figure calling Demon - failed attack on Oz (Csargo)
Large figure- Shoots with gun - Oz (Csargo)
Figure - Killed with wicked-looking knife - Virginia Bryce (Kage) <--- Possibly killed by Faith

N2:
Coated figure calling Demon - Killed Dawn (Kennigit)
Large Figure - crushes with lethal bear hug - Faith (Landlubber)

N3:
Large figure - kills - Mayor Wilkins (Seon)
Large figure - kills - Justine (Alsark)

[Montmorency]

I can assure you the N4 kills are all by the individual who killed Trick and Faith, and finished off Oz.

The coated figure is an interesting case. I was protected, so perhaps I don't get all the details, but there was no mention of a coated figure in my PM. You'd think Wilkins should be the demon summoner though.

However, I had Seon blocked last night, on top of being killed. So either it's someone else doing the attacking, or the block was not carried out.

[edse]

If we say that Faith was evil and Seon was the demon summoner, that leaves one or more mafia that haven't done anything during these nights.

[Erebus]

Well a Faith, Mayor Wilkins, Mr. Trick triad of mafia is totally possible. Mayor Wilkins treated Faith like a daughter, and corrupted her in the series.

And Anya has to kill Xander? Did Willow summon her on Xander one season? I forget.

[Captain Blackadder]

Well a Faith, Mayor Wilkins, Mr. Trick triad of mafia is totally possible. Mayor Wilkins treated Faith like a daughter, and corrupted her in the series.

And Anya has to kill Xander? Did Willow summon her on Xander one season? I forget.

Cordelia was the first one to summon Anya with the whole I wish Buffy never came to Sunnydale but Xander was indeed the target of her anger latter in the show.

[Captain Blackadder]

This. Is it true that the Mafia is split up evenly on the towns? As far as I can understand Mr Trick, Faith, Wilkins and me are all from Sunnydale

One would assume so though for balancing purposes it could be different. 8 mafia in a 25 man game seems too many at least to me a full third of the players are scum at the start with recruiting abilities it seems too unbalanced. Should you flip scum and the buffy season ends with your lynching I would say we could have two or three scum left on the LA side of the big bads from Angel we could have Marcus Hamilton and Eve for the last remnant of Wolfram and Hart or maybe the Circle of the Black Thorn since some of the demon write up's could indicate the Archduke.

[Montmorency]

:mellow:

Now, to more constructive action.

Daveshack, you last communicated with me 24 hours ago, yet you haven't posted posted in this thread in 10 days: not since the Willow vote. (Willow was your lover, eh?)

That sort of power lurking is worthy of vig with prejudice. Get your :daisy: in here now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I say we lynch Montmorency just because, and for no other reason.

[Montmorency]

What a shame.

[Ironside]

Vote: Edse

Somebody is a lier. Odds are you or Daveshack. You also switched to save Seon.

Not the only one that voted ATPG, but one is probably scum, when Seon was close to being lynched.

[Arjos]

Vote: Edse

Gah? :D

[edse]

Al right, I confess. I'm the demon summoner. I have been attacking random people every night. I had a failed attack on Captain Blackadder last night. I'm totally neutral and have nothing against working with the town, I don't trust Montmorency's network however and don't want to act at their orders.



Player:edse
Role: Anyanka
Town: Sunnydale
Victory Conditions
2 pts. Survive
1 point per major character that dies.

Abilities: Demons: Each night, you can call upon demons to kill someone.

Flavor Text: Once, you loved. Once, you were human. Now all that remains is to reclaim your true nature and strike down on those still living, good or evil or whatever.

Wiki:Anya (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Anya)

[Montmorency]

Al right, I confess. I'm the demon summoner. I have been attacking random people every night. I had a failed attack on Captain Blackadder last night. I'm totally neutral and have nothing against working with the town, I don't trust Montmorency's network however and don't want to act at their orders.

yes, CB does claim to have been attacked. How did your attack fail, though? He wasn't protected.

And why didn't the Mafia attack until last night?

[edse]

yes, CB does claim to have been attacked. How did your attack fail, though? He wasn't protected.

And why didn't the Mafia attack until last night?


You find captain Blackadder and summon demons to attack her. He kills them. Surprised and a little scared, you flee.
Must belong to his role.

I don't understand your second question.

[johnhughthom]

He kills them.

:thinking:

[Arjos]

I have no idea about which character Cpt. B. is, but I've seen the host posting he or she referring to the same person many times, just focus on the action and the description of attackers...
For example in that quote says "attack her" and right after "He kills", so yeah :D

[johnhughthom]

I have no idea about which character Cpt. B. is, but I've seen the host posting he or she referring to the same person many times, just focus on the action and the description of attackers...
For example in that quote says "attack her" and right after "He kills", so yeah :D

That's not what I was contemplating.

[Montmorency]

Gender, john. Gender.

He kills them? That's not what his PM said.


I don't understand your second question.

If you were summoner, it means the only Mafia attack so far was on me last night, and maybe on Kennigit if we assume Faith was scum.

Blackadder. What the :daisy: is this? Vanilla role my :daisy:.

What are you?

[johnhughthom]

He kills them? That's not what his PM said.

That's what I was contemplating, I was leaving it to Monty to bring it up.

[Arjos]

Ima Unvote; Vote: Captain Blackadder for the tie and the suspense for the round lol

[Montmorency]

You find captain Blackadder and summon demons to attack her. He kills them. Surprised and a little scared, you flee.


You are walking around minding your own business when a figure comes in and attacks you with demons, you scream and attempt to run and are just about to die when another figure enters the room challenging the first. They fight and you run away.

Blackadder also apparently deflected a block. :brood:

[Arjos]

A PM is false, which one? :P

[Montmorency]

I'm thinking Blackadder is some very powerful. A kill and a block, nullified.

We've found a bigger fish to fry than edse. Maybe he can live if I keep him blocked during nights.

Unvote; Vote: CB

Your ungodly strength shall not avail you any longer. Buffy, Angel, Giles! The final boss awaits...

[johnhughthom]

Tally:

Cpt B: 4(edse, jht, Arjos, Monty)
edse: 2(Cpt B, Ironside)

Not voting: mafiotes, BSnitch, DaveScum, Erebusser, Ishnotamale, Lewwynittowinit, Riedwhysoquiet? :whip:

[Arjos]

Not voting: mafiotes, BSnitch, DaveScum, Erebusser, Ishnotamale, Lewwynittowinit, Riedwhysoquiet? :whip:

Ahahahahahah XD

[Riedquat]

Tally:

Cpt B: 4(edse, jht, Arjos, Monty)
edse: 2(Cpt B, Ironside)

Not voting: mafiotes, BSnitch, DaveScum, Erebusser, Ishnotamale, Lewwynittowinit, Riedwhysoquiet? :whip:

Summer, weekend... and my very nature showing up for one side, in the other I'm very out of the loop ;)

Vote: Captain B

[Lewwyn]

Tally:

Cpt B: 4(edse, jht, Arjos, Monty)
edse: 2(Cpt B, Ironside)

Not voting: mafiotes, BSnitch, DaveScum, Erebusser, Ishnotamale, Lewwynittowinit, Riedwhysoquiet? :whip:

:laugh4: pretty accurate for me.
Vote: Captain Blackadder

[johnhughthom]

:smug:

You want to get people voting, just ask me to do a tally. :wink:

[BSmith]

vote: edse to keep it interesting.

[Alsark]

I say we lynch Montmorency just because, and for no other reason.

I'm game :).

[Ishmael]

Not voting: mafiotes, BSnitch, DaveScum, Erebusser, Ishnotamale, Lewwynittowinit, Riedwhysoquiet? :whip:

I could be any gender unnder all this warpaint....

As to serious matters, am I correct in saying that CB blocked a vig and roleblock attempt on him? If so,

vote: Captain Blackadder

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lynching Blackadder is bad move.

Trust neutral pizza on this. Would I lie?

[johnhughthom]

I'm game :).

Ah! Pimple!

[Captain Blackadder]

Ah! Pimple!

Yeah lynch the person who got attacked by the mafia and managed to block it that's a smart idea. I am Cordelia but the night before the attack I prayed to the powers that be and they made me a higher being so I had various one shot abilities I used one to protect myself since I thought now is around the time I would be attacked in a game. I have a one shot vig attempt as well. I have being completely honest and upfront in my dealings with the network in the days of this game. Did I not say to all of you to investigate me scan me do whatever so that you could trust me and I you. Why on earth would I do that if I was scum? It makes no sense here is the pm conversation I have had with various people over the games





Hi Pizza fellow human here. Us human should stick together against these foul demons. What's going on, I am somewhat confused?

You'll permit me to scan you before I tell you anything sensitive, right? By the way, I'm sharing the info that I am scanning you, so if I die, you may become the prime suspect.



Now, paranoia out of the way, who are you?

I have little understanding of Buffy in general, however I do know that there are good and bad demons, good and bad vampires. My character however in this game simply wants to be pro-human.

My best guess is that there are cults, just like the last game(s) and that the murderers are at least half pro-town vigilantes, who have thusfar been not so successful. I fear if their aim doesn't improve, we will lose.

However, there will be other, more sinister kills out there and I hope they're not directed at us. Frankly I don't care what happens as long as I'm not converted or killed.

Cordelia here, scan away I can't expect anything less then that.


Cordelia Chase? And what a lovely pursuit you must be.

My guess is that you'd be convertible to whatever malevolent deity is in this game, as your character was in the show.

Therefore, you're likely recruitment bait. Probably vulnerable to vamps as well, being human and all.

If you get converted, leave me alone. I'm not hunting anyone and my scan is harmless to anyone. Anyone I scan as human I won't vote for, and I don't intend to scan people twice.




I would like to know who you are.

I know Angel, Giles, and Buffy. Angel can only protect. Buffy can protect and vig. She has not used her vig - she loses it upon killing a human.

Not much point in having 2 primaries, eh?

Also, what's with that "Us humans should stick together" business that you sent to Pizza? And apparently, someone scanned Pizza's VC: to kill all humans.

:inquisitive:

Well he seemed to be saying that he had the ability to scan for humans I assumed that was supposed to be a way for Buffy to kill unlike last game where she never killed at all. I am Cordelia Chase investigate away of course since I assume that everyone in your group has being investigated to make sure that they are not lying. So I am a recruit for Angel like last game I would assume. Good to know that the two town forces already know each other since that was what lead to our curbstomping of a victory last time around.




Hello Captain!

First let me ask you if you are talking with Monty or someone else from the mini-town group, I know you were talking with Pizza and supposedly he scanned you last night and now that result went with him to the grave.

So if nobody contacted you from this disfunctional group feel free to pm me back...

I have talked to Monty but before I talk any more I want to know a few things who told you that ATPG VC was to kill all humans based on who he was this seems false and whomever said that should be lynched. So I want you or someone in your group to scan me tonight report back what it says so I can trust you and then you can trust me that I am a simple human.

Ok, lets await the scans results to get any further, but I let Monty do the talking :bow:

Certainly it has been a pleasure.

Here is my communication with various people now does that sound like scummy talk to any of you I don't think so. I have removed some small sections of the pm's to prevent scum from knowing certain things.

[johnhughthom]

You were roleblocked, successfully according to the host, so how can you have used an ability to defend yourself?

[Captain Blackadder]

I don't know ask the host not me. I've got no idea. Maybe the host made a mistake he made one with ATPG afterall and I will die tonight finding out that I have being roleblocked last night.

[Montmorency]

Yeah lynch the person who got attacked by the mafia and managed to block it that's a smart idea. I am Cordelia but the night before the attack I prayed to the powers that be and they made me a higher being so I had various one shot abilities I used one to protect myself since I thought now is around the time I would be attacked in a game. I have a one shot vig attempt as well. I have being completely honest and upfront in my dealings with the network in the days of this game.

:jawdrop:

This, guys, is the ballsiest claim I've ever seen.


so I can trust you and then you can trust me that I am a simple human.


they made me a higher being

Please reconcile this for me.

And why did you change your notification PM so that you ran away and a figure protected you when your attacker's PM states that you killed the demons yourself?

[Captain Blackadder]

Simple as you said so yourself your network has being infiltrated you know that it must be so since you know everyone's role when I said that I was a simple human but then that changed when some event triggered the change I don't know what did but something did. I changed it because I do not trust your network since it has I am sure it is infiltrated.

[Montmorency]

Jesus, ok - so you've become part-demon? The vig is the only power you have left right now?

What I find difficult to believe is that you only just used this power last night...

Unvote;

[johnhughthom]

:rolleyes:

Really Monty?

The rolly eyes thing is to make you feel like pizza, everybody does it to him.

Hey mafia! I'm Wesley the roleblocker, come kill me please.

[Montmorency]

This seems solid in principle:


Precognitive powers granted by the Powers That Be allow her to experience vague, painful visions of people in trouble and sometimes scents.

Would it be possible not to lynch today? Both of these could be blocked by night.

[johnhughthom]

:wall:

[Montmorency]

:inquisitive:

:shrug:

[johnhughthom]

unvote

I wash my hands of this, I'll be concentrating on Westeros write ups and won't be back in here this round.

[Captain Blackadder]

Jesus, ok - so you've become part-demon? The vig is the only power you have left right now?

What I find difficult to believe is that you only just used this power last night...

Unvote;

I only got the power the night before you can of course block away and if you want me to vig someone just ask I will do it and you will see in the write up that I have never killed before.

[Montmorency]

Why did you only use this ability on N4? Anyone else would have activated it on N1. Please send me the relevant text for it.

[Riedquat]

Unvote; vote: abstain for the time being...

[edse]

He is really begging to be scanned if you look at CB's discussion quotes. he has avoided a vig and a block, why wouldn't he get trough a scan? And why did he change his pm from last nigh, trying to make it look like he was protected when Monty knows every doctor.

[Arjos]

I'll keep my vote on him...
The only way to find out who's lying about PMs and his role, is by comparison between everyone's PMs...
But if we have townies who forge theirs 'cos they don't trust anyone, we won't get anywhere...

Plus, to get all those powers it's not very town-like...

[Riedquat]

Plus, to get all those powers it's not very town-like...

This. The couple of pro-town roles I know of are very naive in comparison... :thinking:

[Montmorency]

Check the Cordelia wiki. The Powers-that-be thing is all in there. Cordelia is a good gal: some sort of special case.

Of course, there are many problems with what he's peddling. Why does he have a vig? It seems a scan would be better suited to his character based on the wiki. What sort of power allows one to block an attack and a roleblock? Why did he alter his notification PM in that way?

Why won't he send me his role PM?

So sure, keep your votes on him. If someone has to be lynched, better safe than sorry. And while edse is a murderous liar, unless I can determine that his death is part of the "eliminate threats to innocents" VC, he's easier to keep an eye on. Can be blocked and all that.

[DaveShack]

Did I really go that long without posting? Didn't seem like it... I've been having trouble making sense of the game, and had nothing constructive to say.

"Find Xander and kill him" doesn't sound like a good role. OTOH I've had someone asking me if I'm Xander (I'm not BTW) -- and I don't know if it was to protect, or to bird-dog for the killer. If that roleclaim is even accurate...

So is Monty playing like Pizza in CapoIV, scum leading the town, or is he genuine? I'm going to have to guess genuine, and vote: edse.

[Montmorency]

That's not his claim anymore. He finally revealed that he wants to kill major characters. But you aren't one.

Why don't you show us yours?

[DaveShack]

Actually, I'll unvote, vote:Abstain

I can't make sense of it at all.

[DaveShack]

Why don't you show us yours?
I'm beginning to think you're scum, but your continual questioning is beginning to annoy me so here goes.

Role: Tara
Town: Sunnydale
Victory Conditions
2 points all threats to innocents resolved
1 point Dawn survives
2 points Willow survives

[Montmorency]

Reasonable. I'll call off the hounds.

[Riedquat]

edse: 3 - (Bsmith; capt b; ironside)
Captain Blackadder: 4 - (edse; arjos; Lewwyn; Ishmael)

Dave.... what happened with that soft lover claim form day...2?

[Montmorency]

Tar = Willow's lover.

[Riedquat]

Tar = Willow's lover.

aaahh....

Ouch... so the same day he was saying he didn't want to vote blindly because didn't want to lynch his lover by accident... we actually lynched his lover... tough luck...

[Montmorency]

You know, let's make it a tie.

I don't want to kill either one, but feel as though both should die.

Vote: edse Tie. :shrug:

[edse]

I'm not evil, I'm neutral, I won't kill anyone unless you tell me to kill him.

[johnhughthom]

Flippin' hell, why can't you have headed a townie network when I'm scum Monty? Call off the hounds? Call off the kittens more like.

Vote: Cpt B

[Montmorency]

If you were scum, you'd be dead, my friend. :cool:

[johnhughthom]

Take those sunglasses off, you're struggling to see what's going on as it is...


:clown: