Buffy Mafia 2: A Slayer's Work Game Thread [Concluded]

[Montmorency]

I can forgive your ignorance, John - but not your arrogance.

unvote: edse

I have a very good idea of what to do with you. :brood:

[edse]

5 Captain Blackadder (edse; arjos; Lewwyn; Ishmael; jht)
3 edse (Bsmith; capt b; ironside;)

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys can drop the charade, at this point its obvious you're all scumbags.

[Ishmael]

We are? Why didn't anybody tell me! :beam:

[Captain Blackadder]

You guys can drop the charade, at this point its obvious you're all scumbags.

Indeed once I am lynched and shown to be not lying I would recommend that you should all look at Monty as scum. Whilst he knows all the doctors and the vigs does anyone know what he has being doing at the night? If you do and can confirm it then I would admit fault but if otherwise I think a lynching would be in order.

[Lewwyn]

Unvote; Vote: Edse

I'll even it up. With Trick, the mayor and Faith dead we're sort of low on targets... I don't trust either Edse or CB. Edse is actually probably a better lynch based on the VC of points per main character death. But honestly both are under suspicion here.

[Montmorency]

Ergh, the round ended some time ago. But auto's in China, so we might not find out what's up until 2012. :sweatdrop:

[Lewwyn]

Ergh, the round ended some time ago. But auto's in China, so we might not find out what's up until 2012. :sweatdrop:

That's a lame excuse... I"M in China...
:clown:

[autolycus]

Buffy Season 2: Episode 1: Heinlein's Paradise

Buffy is walking near the edge of town. When a demon attacks her. Buffy kills it with a sigh.


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Buffy: You know what, I'm sick of all this trouble coming into my town. We need a more permanent solution!

Cue opening music

Buffy: And that's why we must shut down our borders, completely! If nothing new ever came to this town, we'd be safe forever!

Large Crowd: Yeah!!!

Single Dissenter: But what about you, Buffy? Didn't you come-- He is silenced by someone hitting him on the head with a frying pan.

The crowd goes to the bus station, and starts slashing the tires on the buses and throwing lit matches into the fuel tanks, including on a bus that just parked, and whose passengers have not yet exited. The bus goes up burning all those inside, including Captain Blackadder.

Captain Blackadder: All I wanted was to bring about a little peace!


Elsewhere:

Ethan Rayne: Excelllent ....


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Captain Blackadder was Jasmine


Living 12/25
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Daveshack
edse
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat



Dead 12/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell
landlubber- killed night 3 Faith
Kennigit- killed night 3 Dawn
TheFluffyOne- lynched day 4 Gunn
Alsark- killed night 4 Justine
Seon- killed night 4 Mayor
Captain Blackadder- lynched day 5 Jasmine

Disappeared 1/25
El Barto

[Montmorency]

Aha! He lied!

Not really - he was Cordelia Chase: Evil Cordelia Chase! (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Jasmine)

WOOHOOHOOO

[johnhughthom]

Fancy that. And you wanted to keep him alive and roleblock him. :rolleyes:

[Arjos]

Good call and nice random.org lol

[Montmorency]

Yeah? Well, bugger me for skimming the wiki. Yeesh.

So the scum must have lost their recruiter and killer by now.

[johnhughthom]

Yeah? Well, bugger me for skimming the wiki. Yeesh.

So the scum must have lost their recruiter and killer by now.

Ooh, he spouted a phrase anybody skimming the wiki could have! He must be telling the truth! Even though everything else points to the contrary! :rolleyes:

I notice you didn't exactly help with your non-voting this round, lucky I didn't carry through on my not coming back to the thread rant.

[Montmorency]

Ooh, he spouted a phrase anybody skimming the wiki could have! He must be telling the truth! Even though everything else points to the contrary!

Technically, he was truthful about that.

He just neglected to mention that he was also evil.

[Riedquat]

You guys can drop the charade, at this point its obvious you're all scumbags.

For some reason this is most hilarious now... :laugh4:

[Montmorency]

He means it in the sense that we've all dirtied our hands here.

Like what William Laurence said during the Trinity test:


Now we are all sons of bitches.

That is why I'm having every single one of us nightkilled.

:bow:

[edse]

That is why I'm having every single one of us nightkilled.

:bow:

Do the night orders still stand?

[Montmorency]

Yes, yes. :rolleyes:

[edse]

Ok. I only follow his^ orders even though I myself also found the target scummy. I would rather sit quiet in a corner than run around and kill people.

[Montmorency]

That's flattering, I guess.

So I've got what are technically two serial killers working for me.

I hope autolycus decides to do the awesome thing and let you win with us.

[edse]

That's flattering, I guess.

So I've got what are technically two serial killers working for me.

I hope autolycus decides to do the awesome thing and let you win with us.

I don't have to kill anyone at night and I'm neutral so I count for the town.

[Riedquat]

I don't have to kill anyone at night and I'm neutral so I count for the town.

Yeah... right... :rolleyes:

[Montmorency]

I'm sure he's neutral in the sense that he isn't one of the scum-cult.

[edse]

Yeah... right... :rolleyes:

I could refrain from killing tonight if that make it easier to believe.

[Captain Blackadder]

I wasn't evil you fools read further into the wiki what happened once I was killed? Wolfram and Hart the real bad guys of the series said well done Angel for getting rid of this whole peace on earth thing then you all felt bad and wondered if you had done the right thing.

Bahh Good luck town may the best man/demon/vampire/god win.

[johnhughthom]

I could refrain from killing tonight if that make it easier to believe.

Yes, you do that.



Dead demon guff.

Shhh.

[Montmorency]

Right thing?

You yourself said that there is no right or wrong. Such a concept is alien to Mafia.

Also, you lied about pretty much everything except for the fact that you were formerly known as Cordelia Chase.

[autolycus]

Angel Season 2: Episode 1: Riddles

Angel is sitting in his office, drinking a nice hot cup of blood and poring over a piece of paper intently. Lorne walks in.

Lorne: What'cha looking at?

Angel: See for your self.


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Lorne: Well, that looks grim. What is it, some sort of dark prophecy.

Angel: No, just a brain-teaser an old friend sent me. At least, I hope that's all it is.



Begin Day 6
Episode Ends in just over 48 hours, at 4 pm EST

Living 12/25
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Daveshack
edse
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat



Dead 12/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell
landlubber- killed night 3 Faith
Kennigit- killed night 3 Dawn
TheFluffyOne- lynched day 4 Gunn
Alsark- killed night 4 Justine
Seon- killed night 4 Mayor
Captain Blackadder- lynched day 5 Jasmine

Disappeared 1/25
El Barto

[Montmorency]

Very nice. That riddle is likely just to mess with us.

I say keep everything the way it is, and eventually the host will get tired and let all of us win.

[johnhughthom]

Arjos was The Riddler in a game I hosted recently, perhaps he liked it so much he decided to bring it in to this game?

[Montmorency]

Cut the WIFOM John, this isn't D1.

[johnhughthom]

Cut the WIFOM John, this isn't D1.

:shrug:

[Montmorency]

Don't take it the wrong way, I still consider you expendable. :smitten:

[edse]

Ok, I followed Monty's orders but was stopped by a man with a crossbow. That's all I have to say.

[Arjos]

I'm more puzzled by the file name: "loyalty_main"...
Given the previous write up with Buffy closing the town, she's not going all rogue on us, now is she? XD

[edse]

http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Loyalty

Don't know if it has anything to do with it, I can't find anything useful in the text.

[Montmorency]

That's nice, edse.

Buffy's a woman.

My arrogant smugness is reaching unprecedented heights. Quick, betray me.

[Montmorency]

The father will kill the son.

This is definitely relevant (the episode). Wesley, Angel, and Holtz.

Connor is dead. Holtz, may I see your victory conditions?

[johnhughthom]

Call me nuts, but isn't there something we are supposed to do during day phases of a mafia game?

[Arjos]

Vote: No Lynch you mean? :D

[Montmorency]

If that's actually a possibility, then cool.

Vote: No Lynch

I bet the host is just desperate to stir up controversy by making us suspect atheotes. But Connor is dead, Wesley and Angel are good (enough), and all Holtz can do is scan.

:shrug:

Just end the game, man. The killers need not die. Come on, my mercy sets up a good sequel opportunity! :yes:

[johnhughthom]

:brood:

[Montmorency]

Ce-e-e-el-eb-rate good times, come on!

[Ishmael]

Call me old fashioned, but isn't it traditional to actually lynch the people murdering members of the town, rather than letting them live happily in the community on a good-behaviour bond?

[Arjos]

Call me old fashioned, but isn't it traditional to actually lynch the people murdering members of the town, rather than letting them live happily in the community on a good-behaviour bond?

But no one killed anyone last night, so you want us to kill good people?

[Montmorency]

But they've been loyal. Not one townie has been killed in cold blood after I got to them. Heck, one of them even killed the scum's head honcho.

You can plainly see that no one at all died last night. That is because I specifically asked that no more blood be shed.

That is why we had that exchange. I guaranteed you that there would be no attacks.

Give them a chance. Rehabilitation over retribution.

[Arjos]

Rehabilitation over retribution.

Yay, demons and humans living together in a big orgy XD

[johnhughthom]

Yay, demons and humans living together in a big orgy XD

Or, Monty keeps us twiddling our thumbs while we are slowly converted. :thinking:

[Montmorency]

With 4 scum dead, you honestly think they have a converter? Or that one of the killers is also a converter?

No, John, either Mr. Trick or Mayor Wilkins was the recruiter, if there ever even was one. Check their wikis. Anya and the other guy are unmitigated brute force, and unaffiliated with Wilkins.


Yay, demons and humans living together in a big orgy XD

We're both demons. Half the players are demons. One or two are vampires. :)

[Lewwyn]

I guess it all depends on what constitutes a threat to the town. If the game isn't over, shouldn't we lynch someone? Buffy game is odd. I mean what if we did miss a converter? and they are happily converting in peace? Maybe I'm paranoid, but this IS a mafia game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Still not too late to lynch Montmorency.

[Ishmael]

It is tempting, I'll admit.

[Riedquat]

Show me a single recruitment... a recruiter... a recruit... a converter? So many scanners and nobody has find one?

Options:

1- there is scum still around but are playing dead.
2- there is scum around but inactive due RL.
3- everybody has been converted except you... :laugh4:
4- the host is playing with us.

I think there is a combination of 1 and 2...

Vote: abstain

[edse]

Vote: No Lynch

[johnhughthom]

I can't remember the last game I played where so many assumptions were made.

[Captain Blackadder]

All right I am going to be honest here I was scum.However seriously Auto is not ATPG there will be no tricks in this game where not lynching results in victory.The reason the game continues is because scum still stand.

[johnhughthom]

My goodness, known scum needlessly admitting to being scum type awfully long sentences these days.

[Captain Blackadder]

My goodness, known scum needlessly admitting to being scum type awfully long sentences these days.

I mealy speak the truth I have lost this game. However why should it needlessly spread out because town refuses to lynch known scum. Someone is lying in your town group find out who it is and lynch them. Don't drag this game on for days and days.

[Arjos]

Don't drag this game on for days and days.

Yes, by all means, let's random lynch so that the last mafia standing can have a chance XD

[Riedquat]

I mealy speak the truth I have lost this game. However why should it needlessly spread out because town refuses to lynch known scum. Someone is lying in your town group find out who it is and lynch them. Don't drag this game on for days and days.


Town refuses to lynch and scum refuses to kill, if game keeps going day after day is not only a town responsibility... scum do scummy things and town lynch them for that... what happened in day 1? Town didn't lynched and we didn't do so wrong so far...

[Arjos]

Town refuses to lynch and scum refuses to kill

I think we are at the point that we can roleblock whoever claimed to have kill powers...
Or if the mafia is refraining from killing, is because it would be clear from the result PMs who did it...

[Captain Blackadder]

Yes, by all means, let's random lynch so that the last mafia standing can have a chance XD

Don't random lynch lynch people who are scummy you know that thing that the game is built around. Lynch Edse he could be lying about being neutral re-scan people to see if they were converted.

[edse]

Was I the only one who got the pm?

[johnhughthom]

Was I the only one who got the pm?

This one?


I've been manipulating everybody the entire game! Mwahahaha. Now there's nothing you can do about it!

[Riedquat]

Was I the only one who got the pm?

:stare: explain.yourself.fast.

[Riedquat]

This one?

You are to paranoid john... calm down...

[Montmorency]

Guys, the host was quite obviously setting us up to lynch atheotes with that writeup. But he's just a scanner, so what's the point?

Remember that the presence of even one converted individual is hypothetical and highly dubious at this point. The host never even said that this is a conversion game.

Finally, this is a game with multiple scum teams. 4/25 so far. The last game had 8/35 starting scum.

So who do we call scum? Edse and the Demon SK clearly are, but they've been rehabilitated. They won't kill anyone unless its been sanctioned. Because if they do, they'll be lynched immediately. Atheotes just really hates vampires: I don't see that as being enough to count as scum. Spike and Dru, then? But they survived the last game with town. Angel, Giles, and Buffy? Please. Tara and Wesley? Again. My cousin? He's a doctor.

So what do you want? The only threats at this point are the ones you choose to fabricate.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Montmorency

[johnhughthom]

Unvote

Just teasing. You do all realise no lynch counts as abstain though, and that would have lynched Monty?

[Arjos]

that would have lynched Monty?

There's still one hour and 30 minutes, and I'm watching you XD

[johnhughthom]

There's still one hour and 30 minutes, and I'm watching you XD

If I time it right there is nothing you can do.

[Arjos]

I can go preemptive, you would get killed the following night or everyone will vote for you the next day :P

But the fact that, as you say, there's no difference between No Lynch and Abstain, seems bit silly to me...

[johnhughthom]

I can go preemptive, you would get killed the following night or everyone will vote for you the next day :P

So? We don't know the situation with the scum/cult/Monty's play group/whatever. So far as I'm aware all the information in the game is kept by Monty, were he to die the network would be blind. Taking him out could be a good move, we don't know if any hypothetical anti-town group might be able to risk it.

But yes, please do go and preemptively strike against the person speaking out about the current situation and not, you know, waiting until the last minute to do what he has already laid out. Somebody do something, even if it is vote me off. This Montmorency ego parade, "Ooh look how many people I saved in winning the game, I am Mr Awesome!" is bugging me.

[Arjos]

to do what he has already laid out.

If I want to stop a last second vote, all I have to do is vote anyone, doesn't have to be you, as you know there are "expendable" elements...

[Montmorency]

Aww, ego parade?

Everyone who wants me to squeeze gats till my clips is empty (i.e. use all 5 kills I control tonight), say I!

[johnhughthom]

Mafia at its heart is a game of an uninformed, nearly powerless majority against an unknown, informed, powerful minority. The town uses the lynch to win, the mafia tries to avoid being lynched and uses the murder as their main weapon, killing whoever the town doesn't lynch.

Have we forgotten this simple truth people?

Stuff it, scummy as hell but not lynching is stoopid.

Vote: jht

Either lose a town roleblocker, or actually pick a target.

[Montmorency]

For various reasons, the roles were switched this time. Except for the majority/minority element.

I just think it's unfair to the scum. They want to play ball, but have to be killed off just because of an alignment they didn't choose? That doesn't sit right with me.

[johnhughthom]

They want to play ball, but have to be killed off just because of an alignment they didn't choose? That doesn't site right with me.

:inquisitive:

Checks thread title...

You are playing mafia because?

edit: I don't know if you frequent CFC, but in a recent game there I had a "Lover" role, where I could only win the game with my partner. A situation arose where I didn't see how we could win, but I could direct the game to a townie or mafia win. I did so and lost the game, but the town won. It didn't even enter my head to say, "Oh host, I want to win with these guys, let me, let me, let me, please!" The host gave me a role, and I played that role. If I didn't like not being able to win how and with whom I want I wouldn't play mafia.

[Montmorency]

Montmorency ego parade,

vote: jht

Either lose a town roleblocker, or actually pick a target.

Well played, john. You certainly are a character.

My hands are tied, Anya. Someone has to be thrown under the bus...

Vote: edse

[johnhughthom]

Just because I am a character doesn't mean I have character.

unvote, Vote: edse

[edse]

Stop this, I'm not even evil. I targeted Blackadder two nights ago and brought him forth. We can win without killing anyone.

I got this pm this morning.

Title: End Game?

Dear all,

You are receiving this because you are either scum or neutral with one or more objectives unfulfilled. Montmorency wishes to see the game end without further bloodshed, and no lynch votes have been cast. If all of you send back messages in the affirmative during any period in which there is no lynch vote or kill action attempted, I will end the game. Otherwise, the game will continue.

[edse]

Vote:Athoestes I hope you will do well and I will remove this vote

[Montmorency]

Goddamnit John.

So guess what?

You try this, tomorrow, and we lynch you and the game ends without you present. How does that sound?

[johnhughthom]

Kill me off tonight. Not that I'm saying the pm is genuine, but changing game mechanics halfway through a game to let everybody win? What was the point of playing?

[Montmorency]

This is not your typical Mafia game. Look around you.

[johnhughthom]

It's not a game at all, again not saying I believe the pm is genuine, but "Montmorency wishes to see the game end without further bloodshed"? WTF? Who died and made you God of mafia end games?

[edse]

I wasn't even a bad guy! That's what sad. Somewhere among you there is a Scum hiding.

First night was a random kill, Jarema was Connor, don't yet know if that was a good or a bad kill

Second night I believed Csargo was an important figure among the vampires, he wasn't

Third night I guessed that Kennigit was Buffy, He was her sister

Fourth night I was sure Blackaddr was evil but couldn't kill him because of his abilities but I was able to get him lynched.

[Arjos]

changing game mechanics halfway through a game to let everybody win? What was the point of playing?

With all those powers, this game was composed of many "mafia" families really...
It's not like changing mechanics, a town/neutral victory works perfectly with everyone's victory conditions...

[johnhughthom]

Oh, and don't blame me for this cluster****. I didn't have a pm from the host I alluded to 7 hours ago, but only introduced to the game with 11 minutes of the phase left.

[Montmorency]

Well, your VC was to kill main characters. Though I'm sure survival was one of them.



It's not a game at all, again not saying I believe the pm is genuine, but "Montmorency wishes to see the game end without further bloodshed"? WTF? Who died and made you God of mafia end games?

What do I lose, John? Nothing, that's what. The only thing you're managing to do is take away victory (or at least survival) from others.

[Arjos]

lol far from me to blame anyone (by reading that PM, it states that it was sent to neutrals and mafia), I was just answering you to the "what's the point?" argument...

By that PM we get that there's at least a mafia still alive I take, right?

Let's not go all townie paranoid now, scanners will do their job and smoke out the scum, but let's refrain from silly votes out of principle...

[Ishmael]

With all those powers, this game was composed of many "mafia" families really...
It's not like changing mechanics, a town/neutral victory works perfectly with everyone's victory conditions...

What about a town/neutral/scum victory? And it's obviously not working with everybody's victory conditions, as we know edse at least needs to kill some more important townies to achieve his.

[johnhughthom]

By that PM we get that there's at least a mafia still alive I take, right?

Exactly, letting neutrals win, fine, I have no problem with that, but mafia?

Anyway, Unvote if we all unvote surely auto will let it slide if it's only a little late?

[Montmorency]

:no:

[johnhughthom]

:shrug:

You think it's likely the host will let eveybody have a big "we're all friends together" party, but won't allow a slight extension in a game that has never really run to schedule?

[Arjos]

What about a town/neutral/scum victory? And it's obviously not working with everybody's victory conditions, as we know edse at least needs to kill some more important townies to achieve his.

Edse was simply getting more points for each, didn't require to kill them all...
Sharing with mafia? Of course not, but what autolycus was doing there (I think), was to end it now, since that poor guy stands no chance...

[Montmorency]

Hahaha. Ha. Oh sure, might as well!

Unvote;

[johnhughthom]

This is why I'm usually a hide in the corner and hope no-one notices me townie. See what happens when I get involved.

[Arjos]

This is why I'm usually a hide in the corner and hope no-one notices me townie. See what happens when I get involved.

You'll have one more round to fight your adamant principled views or townie paranoia :P

[johnhughthom]

Come on edse, unvote and let us see this ultimate human, demon and vampire orgy you promised us.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You can lynch Montmorency and give pizzaguy his giggle fit. That's a victory in and of itself.

Doooo eet. Consider it my dying already dead for no good reason wish.

[Montmorency]

Vote: NoOneAskedthePizzaGhost

[Askthepizzaguy]

Montmorency represents the evil networking. You can't just stand aside and let this happen! You must kill the evil!

I'm already dead so there's just one evil left. My demon spawn, the Monty who would be Pizza except he's NOT PIZZA!!! Death to the pretender to the throne!

[Arjos]

My demon spawn, the Monty who would be Pizza except he's NOT PIZZA!!! Death to the pretender to the throne!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFYO43UCMYE&feature=related

XD

[Askthepizzaguy]

Help me Obi-wan Johnhughthom, you're my only hope.

[Montmorency]

I'm afraid I'm going to give in to my anger tonight. John has turned me to the dark side. :shame:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm afraid I'm going to give in to my anger tonight. John has turned me to the dark side. :shame:

All the way? Or are you only darkside-curious?

I can sense the good in you. Let go of your hate. Look at this picture of Jessica Alba (http://iphonewallpapersx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/jessica-alba.jpg).

[Montmorency]

I favor this one at the moment.

https://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/desertSypglass/05_Teaser_Mama_Productora_Toma_78_Direccion_Andy_Muschietti_2.jpg

[autolycus]

Buffy Season 3 Episode 1: Kicking Back
Buffy is sitting around at the local pub with some guys.
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Buffy: You know, it's been awfully quiet around here since I closed the town. I think I did the right thing.

edse bursts into the room, looking panicked and/or angry [I]

[I]Cue intro music

edse: Buffy! Are you nuts? People are starving in the streets. Sunnydale is not a self-sufficient economy. Did you even pay for that beer? I guess I shouldn't be complaining. I've had more work here than anywhere since the Russian Revolution!

Buffy: Shut up!

She throws a knife into edse's throat. Edse gives a gurgle and dies.


Elsewhere

Ethan Rayne: Well, isn't this fun.



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edse was Anya! I'll edit in a full write-up shortly (@ johnhughthom, I may not give you write-ups promptly, but I've always had the phase cut-off right where I said I would.)


Begin Angel Episode
Episode ends in just over 24 hours, at 6:30 pm EST

Vote Tally:
edse: Montmorency, johnhughthom
atheotes: edse

Living 11/25
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Daveshack
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat



Dead 13/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell
landlubber- killed night 3 Faith
Kennigit- killed night 3 Dawn
TheFluffyOne- lynched day 4 Gunn
Alsark- killed night 4 Justine
Seon- killed night 4 Mayor
Captain Blackadder- lynched day 5 Jasmine
edse- lynched day 6 Anya

Disappeared 1/25
El Barto

[Riedquat]

Ahhh... bad timing... cross posted with auto...

[johnhughthom]

So I guess I'm dead tonight? I'm not going to bother roleblocking anyone, so fire away.

[Montmorency]

Someone's going to die tonight.

As befits my new evil nature.

[Arjos]

So I guess I'm dead tonight?

Meh, let's get the mafia guys...
Maybe a scan on JHT to be sure :D

[Askthepizzaguy]

So let me guess, Monty mah boy.

Being a neutral demon is just a cover, you're actually the more evil kind of demon. In other words, like 99 percent of demons, you're evil evil.

And if you're not evil, you're obviously convertible so you're evil by now. Therefore why on earth is anyone trusting you?

So should have died today. die, die, die.

[Montmorency]

Mmmph, c'mere, the greasy souls taste best! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink026.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[autolycus]

Angel Season 3, Episode 1: Boredom

Angel is sitting in his office, twiddling his thumbs.

Angel: I've brought peace to this city, again. Humans and demons, all living in harmony, and somehow, it all feels ... empty.

Suddenly a demon bursts in.

Angel: You look angry. Do you want to fight? Please tell me you want to fight.


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Begin Opening Music

Elsewhere ... Daveshack gets out of a car.

Daveshack: Man, this is just what I needed. A little fun in a big city. Sure, it's no San Francisco, but hopefully I can move on. Willow's been dead for a season and a half now. Besides, Buffy's made Sunnydale just a little too ... fascist for my taste.

A large figure steps out of the shadows.

Large figure: Interesting, a witch. I haven't killed one of those before.

Daveshack whirls, chanting a spell, but the figure simply steps through her wards and grabs her throat, closing until the bones snap. Then he drops the body and turns and walks away.


Back at Angel's office. He and the demon are both lying on the floor, out of breath.

Angel: Well, that was fun. Now what was it you wanted to talk to me about?


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Daveshack was Tara!



Begin Buffy EPisode
Episode ends in 48 hours, at 8 pm EST 12/28/2011

Living 10/25
Arjos
atheotes
Bsmith
Erebus
Ironside
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Lewwyn
Montmorency
Riedquat



Dead 14/25
The Last Days- Killed night 1 Mr. Trick
Jarema- Killed Night 1 Connor
Scottishranger- Lynched Day 2 Willow
Kagemusha- Killed night 2 Virginia Bryce
Csargo- Killed night 2 Oz
Atpg- Lynched Day 3 Rondell
landlubber- killed night 3 Faith
Kennigit- killed night 3 Dawn
TheFluffyOne- lynched day 4 Gunn
Alsark- killed night 4 Justine
Seon- killed night 4 Mayor
Captain Blackadder- lynched day 5 Jasmine
edse- lynched day 6 Anya
Daveshack- killed night 6 Tara

Disappeared 1/25
El Barto

[Montmorency]

Good move.

I thought you would kill someone important.

But I suppose I can't blame you for turning on me.

You felt it, didn't you? You realized the implications of my turn to the dark side.

You realized that I would betray you.

And so you, like a cornered rat, lunged out at us.

Of course you would attack Buffy and Angel, even if you realized that they would always be protected: had to try.

But then you attacked and killed Daveshack. Why? I forgot to send in orders in time for anyone else to be protected. That's why you weren't blocked.

So why attack Daveshack? You could have killed Wesley. You could have killed Giles.

You could have killed me.

But you passed up the opportunity. You killed Daveshack instead.

Your defeat of Buffy's vig was another surprise.

Soon enough, though, surprises get tedious.

So goodbye, Bsmith. It was a pleasure working with you, while it lasted.

Vote: Bsmith

[Montmorency]

Good move.

I thought you would kill someone important.

But I suppose I can't blame you for turning on me.

You felt it, didn't you? You realized the implications of my turn to the dark side.

You realized that I would betray you.

And so you, like a cornered rat, lunged out at us.

Of course you would attack Buffy and Angel, even if you realized that they would always be protected: had to try.

But then you attacked and killed Daveshack. Why? I forgot to send in orders in time for anyone else to be protected. That's why you weren't blocked.

So why attack Daveshack? You could have killed Wesley. You could have killed Giles.

You could have killed me.

But you passed up the opportunity. You killed Daveshack instead.

Your defeat of Buffy's vig was another surprise.

Soon enough, though, surprises get tedious.

So goodbye, Bsmith. It was a pleasure working with you, while it lasted.

Vote: Bsmith

[Ishmael]

Montmorency said it all.

vote: Bsmith

[Arjos]

Montmorency said it all.

And twice! XD

vote: BSmith

[Riedquat]

Don't like it.

How he knew who was who? He attacked Buffy, Angel and Daveshack? Weird choice don't you think? If I were so badass to attack Buffy and Angel same night I would spend my third attack in another high profile target...

[Lewwyn]

I'm sorry my orders weren't in soon enough. Christmas kinda fubared that. :(

Vote: BSmith

[Riedquat]

What were your orders exactly Lewwyn? Monty?

[johnhughthom]

Bugger, I only got your pm today Monty, haven't been on the org since Saturday. I was supposed to roleblock BSmith and obviously I didn't.

Vote: BSmith

[Ironside]

Hi Adam. ~:wave:

Vote: BSmith

Bye Adam. :flybye:

[Riedquat]

Bugger, I only got your pm today Monty, haven't been on the org since Saturday. I was supposed to roleblock BSmith and obviously I didn't.

Vote: BSmith

You! :stare:

Vote: BSmith

[BSmith]

I suppose my time has come. At least I tried to go out with a bang. :rifle:

[johnhughthom]

Red China has kidnapped our host!

[autolycus]

Only a little bit. The game is over, I'll post a write-up and final individual scores sometime soon. Thank you all for your patience with me.

[Captain Blackadder]

Well done town another spanking by the pro town forces. I am glad to see that my former character Giles survived this one as well.

[Montmorency]

Heh, the game was basically won by the middle of D4. Round 5 was all about self-aggrandizement.

It was fun, going from no-name schmuck to quasi-Pizza in two days. My imperious arrogance did cost the non-evils a few lives, though. :shame:

Oh well. :pimp:

[Captain Blackadder]

Indeed I needed some luck early on in order to win.

[Riedquat]

I owe Monty a bear hug!! Congratulations to him! He did a superb job just tolerating me :yes::laugh4:

[Montmorency]

Hey, you did fine. In a more balanced game, your paranoia would have been warranted (forgive me, autolycus).

The mutliple scum teams mechanic doesn't seem to work for games of this size. Scum more or less killed each other in this game.

[Lewwyn]

Yay, we won. Things got wrapped up pretty nicely once we knew who BSmith was.

Thanks CB, Giles reporting in!

Looking forward to the final write-up.

[Captain Blackadder]

Well now I can say what luck I needed and why I wanted to be investigated. I had the perfect role for ATPG anyone who performed a night action on me was converted to join my team I had three days to do that before I had to eat one of my followers who was El Barto. Basically with your giant townie group if I got one of you I would have ripped through the entire pro town power roles by getting the investigator to say that I should be recruited then protected. It would have being great but alas my style of play means that I do not get attacked early or investigated early which meant that by the time i was in that position it was too late. Also I have to ask ATPG why did you think I was innocent since you clearly never investigated me?

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's called benefit of the doubt. You claimed a nice role so I was going to adopt a "wait and see" approach to you.

And I didn't investigate you because you claimed someone who was human, then I said I could scan you to make sure, and you didn't flinch, so therefore I wanted to scan other people because regardless of your alignment if you were human I was fine with you.

I did want all non-humans dead but I had no means of making that happen. I was neutral and relatively powerless.

Anyway, Auto already apologized for accidentally shafting me, but I'd hate to have this game on my record books.... :sad:

Could you like award me a draw or something? :laugh4:

[BSmith]

At what point did you guys know my exact identity?

I knew I was scanned as a killer on N3, which pretty much put me in a bind for the rest of the game. Since I just had to kill people, I waited until I knew which side had scanned me and then did my best to join them. I was perfectly willing to take kill orders from Monty, as it got me closer to my goal, and kept me alive longer.

I always knew that it was going to be a tenuous agreement between us, each keeping the other only as long as was needed for our individual needs. I was just hoping that the other scum would last long enough for me to keep getting kills and staying off the radar of the rest of the group. Unfortunately both lucky kills on my side and the strong town network led to the remaining scum getting eliminated pretty quickly.

On N5 Monty asked me to attack him, and him alone. One thing I hadn’t told him was that I could concentrate my kills on one target, overcoming any protection or other means. I almost used all three kills on him that night, which would have surely beat any protection or natural ability to avoid a night kill. The only thing that held me back was not knowing how strong the network really was, and figuring that if he was killed, I would be immediately lynched – regardless of me trying to explain that Monty had really asked me to attack him, and otherwise weaseling my way out of a lynch.

N6 was a Hail Mary for me. I pretty much knew that I was going to be attacked, or at the least lynched the next day, regardless of what I did, as I was obviously still a threat to the town and needed to go for the town win. I had a slight misreading of my VC conditions, mistaking “kills” for number of people I had killed instead of the real definition which was the number of people I could attack in one night.

If the number of kills I had equaled the number of people left in the game, then the game would end and I would win
(I thought). If all three of my kills on N6 had gone through, then there would have been 8 people left, and I would have killed 8 players. Unfortunately I picked (also somewhat at random) two players that were absolutely protected. That and I misunderstood the kills bit so I wouldn’t have ended the game anyway. Regardless I didn’t really have any other options as I was attacked that night and luckily avoided being killed.

[Montmorency]

I had 4 doctors, you wouldn't have gotten through.

But what an indulgence that, leaving the killers out of good will, while double-checking the confirmed doctors to ensure that they hadn't been converted.

Angel actually called me out on it, and I whined up a storm to get the obeisance I needed to feed my ego.

Heck, the best part of the game for me was this:



Please clear out Alsark and Seon.

With style.

:bow:

It shall be done. :bow:


I kind of wish you had said "Thy will is law".

[BSmith]

Who scanned me, and what was the exact result? Just that I was a killer, or more info like my character, etc...?

[Montmorency]

The leadership struggle of N3 culminated in my discovery of atheotes as role-scanner, and I got him to spill his results. His mason buddy Alsark, a VC-scanner, had you as wanting to become the greatest killer.

So I reached out to you based on that, and you caved immediately. Pretty nice. Probably had something to do with all the softening up I'd done, prodding you to reveal in the hours before I learned of your nature. Then I had Ironside scan your role (Adam) on N4. These scans plus your well-corroborated failed attack on Ironside on N3 (and your confession of course) were easily enough to convince.

Oh, and CB, on N3 and 4 you were very nearly scanned by me and/or atheotes. Good thing "better" leads came up before the phases closed.

[edse]

At what point did you guys know my exact identity?

I knew I was scanned as a killer on N3, which pretty much put me in a bind for the rest of the game. Since I just had to kill people, I waited until I knew which side had scanned me and then did my best to join them. I was perfectly willing to take kill orders from Monty, as it got me closer to my goal, and kept me alive longer.

So you weren't evil? Just a neutral killer like me?

[Riedquat]

Unfortunately I picked (also somewhat at random) two players that were absolutely protected.

You attacked Angel (Ishmael) and Buffy (me) same night... somewhat at random? While I was unsuccessfully trying to kill you, first time I used my vig ability just to feel like a rag doll...

See Monty! I was partially right in my paranoia... he didn't know who were us...

[Montmorency]

So you weren't evil? Just a neutral killer like me?

Now, hold on there, you were both evil by human standards. You both had to die, I merely felt strong enough to "spare" you. Any reference I made to "vigs" was a bit of a handwave.

Also, you should have been converted by your attack on CB. And John by his roleblock. Why did this not occur?

Oh, ah, by night 3 and then the deal was off. Bad break there, definitely.

[edse]

Now, hold on there, you were both evil by human standards. You both had to die, I merely felt strong enough to "spare" you.

We weren't evil, we could act as we wanted. It's thanks to us that the town won.

[Montmorency]

Absolutely. That's what I meant by "scum killed each other".

[edse]

I refuse to be called scum. I'm just as neutral as any scanner or blocker or whatever.

edit: or I was...

[Montmorency]

You were NiNO: Neutral in Name Only. You and BSmith were essentially serial killers.

If you don't like that, well, you can't deny that you were a "threat" to "innocents": your self-admitted VC of killing main characters...

[edse]

My actual VC was one point per Scooby but I gave that up after night two and wanted to survive instead by taking out the bad guys. Why didn't the game end after the death of Blackadder?

[BSmith]

I was most certainly scum. Serial Killer to the core. Alone and looking to kill. If I had enough kills I'd end the game and win, which is naturally what I was going for.

I was just hoping that my cooperation would let me live just long enough to get what I needed. Given the scan on me on N3, I think I did the best I could.

As for coming clean immediately Monty, I had a choice - make myself useful to you, or get lynched right away. I chose to play the longer game and at least try for the victory.

[BSmith]

You attacked Angel (Ishmael) and Buffy (me) same night... somewhat at random? While I was unsuccessfully trying to kill you, first time I used my vig ability just to feel like a rag doll...

See Monty! I was partially right in my paranoia... he didn't know who were us...

I did get the PM that edse referred to, and it was sent to 5 or so of us (not blind copied) supposed scum/neutrals. I chose to not hit any of them and just go for town members, then picked who I thought might not be protected (I figured Monty would be). I find it quite amusing that 2/3 of my picks were the most important characters in the game. My goal was kills, but I was amused that I did cause some concern among the ranks with my actions.

[Montmorency]

As for coming clean immediately Monty, I had a choice - make myself useful to you, or get lynched right away. I chose to play the longer game and at least try for the victory.

I would have liked for that to happen, fulfilling others' VCs being 2 or 3 points for me. It just happened that there weren't enough, eh, good "targets".

I guess we should post our role PMs, or will auto do that?

...

(I deleted mine long ago - ~1000 PMs in this game - and the txt backup's on another HD)

[edse]

Player:edse
Role: Anyanka
Town: Sunnydale
Victory Conditions
2 pts. Survive
1 point per Scooby (Giles, Buffy, Willow, Tara) that dies

Abilities: Demons: Each night, you can call upon demons to kill someone.

Flavor Text: Once, you loved. Once, you were human. But the humans were weak, and let your love die. Now all that remains is to reclaim your true nature and strike down those so-called "friends' of Xander's that let him die.

Wiki:Anya (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Anya)

Should have understood that Xander was dead




kill csargo
As you can see, you succeeded. By the end of today I need answer to this question. If you are still alive when all the Scoobies die, you have the choice of disappearing in a puff of smoke and guaranteeing your 5 points or sticking around for the possibility of 1 bonus point if you are alive at the end. What is your decision?

I answered yes.


Dear all,

You are receiving this because you are either scum or neutral with one or more objectives unfulfilled. Montmorency wishes to see the game end without further bloodshed, and no lynch votes have been cast. If all of you send back messages in the affirmative during any period in which there is no lynch vote or kill action attempted, I will end the game. Otherwise, the game will continue.

This last message was blind to me.

[Ishmael]

Well that was fun - thanks autolycus! As mentioned above I was Angel (read: doctor), which was also my first pro-town power role, which was nice. I apologise for being semi-inactive throughout this game; I didn't post much in the thread, but I did do a lot of communication behind the scenes with Montmorency and Riedquat (Buffy).

[Montmorency]

And you're how it all started!

My attempt at networking with Pizza ended disastrously, as you all recall. In a huff, I decided to take matters into my own hands. Looking over the list, I contacted Ishmael for metagame reasons, and just happened to strike gold.

Your initial Illyria cover-role, which you seem to have made up on the spot, was a nice piece of work. I think you would have done well as Mafia.

[Captain Blackadder]

The leadership struggle of N3 culminated in my discovery of atheotes as role-scanner, and I got him to spill his results. His mason buddy Alsark, a VC-scanner, had you as wanting to become the greatest killer.

So I reached out to you based on that, and you caved immediately. Pretty nice. Probably had something to do with all the softening up I'd done, prodding you to reveal in the hours before I learned of your nature. Then I had Ironside scan your role (Adam) on N4. These scans plus your well-corroborated failed attack on Ironside on N3 (and your confession of course) were easily enough to convince.

Oh, and CB, on N3 and 4 you were very nearly scanned by me and/or atheotes. Good thing "better" leads came up before the phases closed.

Curses because as you can see if that had happened your townie group of four doctors would have being converted so would many other people. It was my bad luck really. Since I needed that first convert to come to me then they could have spread.

[autolycus]

Still a bit too busy to post final write-up, sorry. Edse and johnhughthom weren't converted because their actions happened after El Barto's being devoured (Keeper of the Name). Once El Barto was removed from the game, Blackadder lost his conversion power and just became a killer that was hard to kill (BSmith could have killed him by spending two kills on the same night on him, there was also a mechanic for Connor going killer, and Connor could have killed her).

[BSmith]

My roll PM:


Player: BSmith
Role: Adam
Town: Sunnydale
Victory Conditions
X pts: You can perform X+1 Kills. (If you have as many kills as there are players left, you will end the Game)
1 pt: You survive

Abilities: Each night you may attempt to kill someone. Once you successfully perform 2 kills, you will gain a second. Once you perform 3 more kills you will gain a third, etc. Kills done before reaching a new kill level do not roll over.

Flavor Text: You are Adam, an unholy man-machine hybrid created by the government. You are curious about the nature of these fragile beings that surround you, you must investigate through dissection

Wiki: Adam (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Adam)

Note: You may find it useful to claim another role. I guarantee that Graham Miller is not in this game. This is not a cover role with respect to abilities, but you are free to fabricate it into a full role PM without fear of counterclaim.

Second note: There may be some value in doubling up your kills onto one person once you have more than one. Any one protection will only protect against one of your kills, and there are also those who will be resist to a first assault by you but be vulnerable to a second prosecuted on that same night.

Later modified as follows:



Congratulations, you now can send in two kills a night. Order does matter, as if you kill a protector and then attack their target, both attacks will succeed. Additionally, you can target the same person twice to penetrate 1 layer of protection. I am also slightly changing your VC structure. It remains 1 less than the number of kills you have, but the "survive to the end" scales to make your total 5 regardless of how many kills you have.

[classical_hero]

So there were no cover roles for those who were scum. In a game where players are known, it makes the town's work so much easier. It is a good thing I did not sign up since last time I was scum and it was really easy for the town to figure out that I was scum. In a game where the characters are known, you must provide cover roles to make it harder for the town to win. The previous game was even easier for the town to win due to this fact. It is a good thing I did not sign up for this since if I were town or even scum again, it would have been frustrating.

[autolycus]

classical_hero, did you look at BSmith's role PM? I provided a cover role to him, as well as Jasmine and several others. This game may not have been balanced, but most scum did have cover roles.

[Ironside]

So there were no cover roles for those who were scum. In a game where players are known, it makes the town's work so much easier. It is a good thing I did not sign up since last time I was scum and it was really easy for the town to figure out that I was scum. In a game where the characters are known, you must provide cover roles to make it harder for the town to win. The previous game was even easier for the town to win due to this fact. It is a good thing I did not sign up for this since if I were town or even scum again, it would have been frustrating.

Seon was immune to my name scan at least and the name scanners were both neutral, with Alsark leaning towards working with killers (he/they needed to kill angel, he mistook me for scum).

I had luck with the scans:
Bsmith- Adam
Seon - Unknown but obviously powerful
Riedquat-Buffy

Thought about working with Seon in the spirit of neutrality (he rolefished a bit on me making it more obvious that he was scum and being able to scan Buffy made him even more likely to be scum) but we never came up with a good opening. Since Edse(=Spike) protected me, I was mostly safe, so protection of Edse was the important bit. The problem was that giving up your protector, while trying blackmail is a very dangerous combination.

Then Monty started to fish around a bit with the nice tell me or I kill you style, so I had fun messing with him by going through Buffy first. :2thumbsup: And to prove a point I think Monty got, even if he started out calling me a poor lier before confirmation. I'll never lie that poorly. You did have a power scan on me correct? You never told.
And Riedquat, your "I'm totally not Buffy" wasn't really convincing.

Role pm

Player: Ironside
Role: Drusilla
Town: Sunnydale
Victory Conditions
3 points: you survive
2 points Spike survives


Abilities:Visions: Each night, you can pick someone to dream of and discover their true identity.

Flavor Text: So much beautiful carnage... It was here before, and it will be here again. Isn't it pretty, Spike?

Wiki:Drusilla (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Drusilla)
Note: Erebus is Spike. You are advised to cooperate with her.

[Riedquat]

Then Monty started to fish around a bit with the nice tell me or I kill you style, so I had fun messing with him by going through Buffy first. And to prove a point I think Monty got, even if he started out calling me a poor lier before confirmation. I'll never lie that poorly. You did have a power scan on me correct? You never told.
And Riedquat, your "I'm totally not Buffy" wasn't really convincing.


You had the advantage, for all I knew you could be bluffing... besides this is only my fourth game and the first with a role (thanks autolycus!), so will try to lie better next time ;)


Player: Riedquat
Role: Buffy
Town: Sunnydale
Victory Conditions
3 points All threats to innocents resolved
1 point you live
1 point Angel lives

Abilities: Each night you may either attempt to kill someone or protect someone. You lose your kill if you kill a human

Flavor Text: You are Buffy, the current longest-serving Slayer. The years have been tough on you all since the Glory incident, as your mother died of an aneurysm and you drifted apart from your comrades. Giles' dip back into the dark arts resulted in you cutting off ties with him, and well, it was just too painful hanging out with Willow: It only reminded you of Xander's death. Hopefully these ties can be rekindled as your work has begun once more with a vengeance.

Wiki:Buffy (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Buffy)

[Lewwyn]

My role PM too.


Player: Lewwyn
Role: Giles
Town: Sunnydale
Victory Conditions
3 points All threats to innocents resolved
1 point you survive
1 point Buffy survives


Abilities: Hands-on experience: Each night you can assault someone and prevent them from taking other actions.

Flavor Text: You are Giles, former mentor to the Slayer. Your dip back into the dark arts during the Glory incident alienated both your former student and Willow. Perhaps you did go too far, but it was necessary. Anyway, this time, you'll stick to more ... mundane methods.

Wiki:Giles (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Giles)

[Ishmael]

Well, let's join the role PM party. I feel jealous that Buffy got a kill and I didn't :beam:



Player: Ishmael
Role: Angel
Town: Los Angeles
Victory Conditions
3 points All threats to innocents resolved
1 point you survive
1 point Buffy survives


Abilities: Dark Protector: Each night you can protect someone

Flavor Text: You are Angel, de facto ruler of the night in this town. You help the helpless with an iron fist. So what if you've been more brutal than you had to be, and in so doing alienated those that once fought beside you. It was necessary. Right? Right?

Wiki:Angel (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Angel)

[Arjos]

Thank you autolycus for hosting, the action PMs were quite amusing :)

[Montmorency]

Alright, here it is:


Player: Montmorency
Role: Lorne
Town: Los Angeles
Victory Conditions
3 points All threats to innocents resolved
2 points: At least 4 other innocents score at least 4 points


Abilities:Sing for me, Angel of Music!!. Each night, you can persuade someone to sing for you in your karaoke bar. This will tell you something they care about (The smallest value VC they have, that you didn't already know), repeated use may reveal more deep desires.

Flavor Text: You are Lorne, singing empath demon. All you really want to do is run a nice little Karaoke bar and make people happy. Is that too much to ask?

Wiki:Lorne (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Lorne)

And my reticent brother's, maybe:


Player: Arjos
Role: Hell
Town: Hell
Victory Conditions
2 points All threats to innocents resolved
1 point Lorne survives
2 points Lorne is killed in glorious combat!!!
2 points you survive
1 point You die in glorious combat!!!

Abilities: Mighty Champion: Each night, you can protect someone.

Flavor Text: You are Landokmar of the Deathwok Clan! You have come to this strange world seeking your cowardly cousin Krevlorneswath of the Deathwok Clan! You wish to see him face proper battle or drag him back to your world in chains!!! You speak with a lot of exclamation points!!! Oh yes, and the people here seem decently courageous even if they are cattle! May their combat be blessed with much blood and victory!!

Wiki:Landokmar (http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Landokmar)

[Arjos]

Ahahahahha so my PM really had a "typo" with the Role entry :P

[autolycus]

About to fly back to the States, don't have time to edit back in the write-up, but here are the final scores:
5 (Total Victory)
Buffy (riedquat)
Wesley (johnhughthom)
Giles (Lewwyn)
Angel (Ishmael)
Landokmar (Arjos)
Spike (Erebus)
Drusilla (Ironside)
Lorne (Montmorency)
4 (major Victory)
Gunn (thefluffyone)
Virginia Bryce (Kagemusha)
Dawn (Kennigit)
3 (Minor Victory)
Willow (scottishranger)
Connor (Jarema)
Oz (Csargo)
2(Minor Defeat)
Justine (alsark)
Tara (Daveshack)
Adam (BSmith)
Rondell ***(atpg, 0 based on role PM, but 2 points for nigh impossible role and GM error)
Anyanka (edse)
1 (Major Defeat)
Holtz (atheotes)
0 (Total Defeat)
Faith (landlubber)
Mr. Trick (TLD)
The Mayor (Seon)
Jasmine (Captain Blackadder)
Keeper of the Name (El Barto)


I think that's everyone.
For Gameroom Statistics purposes, the only innocent who lost was Daveshack. Edse, atheotes, atpg, and alsark were neutrals and lost. Everyone else who lost was MAfia.
Csargo, Jarema, Erebus, and Ironside were neutral, everyone else who won was innocent.

[Zack]

So there were no cover roles for those who were scum. In a game where players are known, it makes the town's work so much easier. It is a good thing I did not sign up since last time I was scum and it was really easy for the town to figure out that I was scum. In a game where the characters are known, you must provide cover roles to make it harder for the town to win. The previous game was even easier for the town to win due to this fact. It is a good thing I did not sign up for this since if I were town or even scum again, it would have been frustrating.
Oh, stop being such a hypocrite.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10241694&postcount=84

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10243425&postcount=94

And as for your "I'm glad I didn't sign up for this game" mantra, I'll just say that I enjoy Auto's games more than I enjoy yours and leave it at that. ;)

[johnhughthom]

Oh, stop being such a hypocrite.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10241694&postcount=84

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10243425&postcount=94

And as for your "I'm glad I didn't sign up for this game" mantra, I'll just say that I enjoy Auto's games more than I enjoy yours and leave it at that. ;)

:laugh4:

Evil Zack is back.

[atheotes]

BSmith, i was the one who scanned you.
Thanks for hosting Auto. I had fun till i learned that ATPG results were wrong. I lost interest beyond that. Mistakes happen. No worries I will be sure to join ur next game if i am around :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

If your results were right it would have been awesome.

I really wish I was mafia here, I really didn't want to fight for the town but I felt I had little choice. Everyone was so filled with anti-neutral angst!

[Lewwyn]

I really wish I was mafia here, I really didn't want to fight for the town but I felt I had little choice. Everyone was so filled with anti-neutral angst!

Heh, so you're saying because we were suspicious of neutrals we were able to get neutrals to fight for the town instead of siding with the mafia? Sounds like a win for the town to me.

[classical_hero]

Oh, stop being such a hypocrite.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10241694&postcount=84

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10243425&postcount=94

And as for your "I'm glad I didn't sign up for this game" mantra, I'll just say that I enjoy Auto's games more than I enjoy yours and leave it at that. ;)

For a game where the players are known and can be looked up, then you need a cover role, since one mention of your name and people can look it up. In a game where you do not the players from beforehand, you don't need to go through that.

[Montmorency]

On the flipside, in this sort of game its very easy to simply use online resources to create a cover role.

For example, Ishmael (Angel), the first besides Pizza whom I contacted, fobbed me off with a cover role he seems to have made up on the spot: Illyria. He gave a convincing scan power, and some other entirely believable information -and I don't think Illyria was even in the previous game!