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I didn't say limited because the system needs it, but because imo people won't show up for it...
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-12-2012, 04:10
Brackets create a ton of problems. For one, if one game of a bracket is played on say, Day 2, the winner would need to wait until the winner of the connecting bracket is determined. What if one of the players in that bracket is unavailable for a week or two? Does that mean the winner of the other can't play tourney games for so long? We can't force people to attend as there is no tangible incentive nor disincentive for attendance. That is the difference between this and any other organized sport.
And get ready to see endless complains about X was lucky he faced Y, while this guy only had to defeat Z etc...
If the problem is some players always facing the same opponents, be more rigid with rules for that...
At first if I remember correctly i had score with lmt 4-1 for him, now its 4-3... Restrictions about facing same opponent arent good...
What i find most imortant in this game is trying to get better and better and finally beat the opponent you lost to hundred times before..
Kival gewinnt gegen Capo
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/6htZ7vjDYV/kival-capo_2012-06-12.rpy
EDIT: Damnit... Kival wins against Capo.
lol I love tired Kiv using german unconsciously :D
Arjos vs Stormrage #1 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/vdLvnEduwi/Arjos-Stormrage-1_2012-06-12.rpy)
Anatolia was secured and the Galatikoi have swarmed to the Philadelphoi's side :P
The Celtic Viking
06-12-2012, 13:47
For the record, I think I would like a bracketed double-elim tournament, though I'd hate to play as a western barbarian and be forced to face a nomad.
At first if I remember correctly i had score with lmt 4-1 for him, now its 4-3... Restrictions about facing same opponent arent good...
What i find most imortant in this game is trying to get better and better and finally beat the opponent you lost to hundred times before..
If you want to do this then you can still play friendlies with them. If you're just feeding someone else points then that's not fair to the other players in the tournament.
Western Barbarians are good against certain nomads .
Western Barbarians are good against certain nomads .
The incapable, lame horses, not running away nomads? :D
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-12-2012, 17:51
I mean, this was with the old Aedui and the old Pahlava, but me and Lazy found quite literally almost no way to win with the Parthians against the Gauls. Your infantry just cuts and runs too quickly.
Now with 100 man Mardian Fire Warriors I'm not so sure.
Basically, all functional "steppe" armies require infantry, which do not last very long against gauls .
Kival wins vs stormrage
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/Pikh0N7-JS/Kival-stormrage_2012-06-13.rpy
TCV that's what I was thinking. Tournament limits on the number of times you can play a certain opponent, if implemented, would not amount to any effective or even intended limitation on the number of matches against a certain player. Instead it would be a limit on how many games could count toward your tournament score. For instance, if the Player Match Limit was set to 3, then once any two players hit 0-3, 1-2, 2-1, or 3-0, any further games they play that month would not be allowed in ranked play (i.e., the ladder + monthly tournament scores + ranked replays). They could only be broadcast as friendlies.
The Celtic Viking
06-15-2012, 01:32
Indeed.
In other news, the Greeks were suffering under a Swedish summer as they waded through meters of snow to defeat a Seleukid army under the command of Capo. The replay is here. (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/Hf53sz-K2Y/TheCelticViking-Capo_2012-06-15.rpy)
-Stormrage-
06-15-2012, 07:21
TCV that's what I was thinking. Tournament limits on the number of times you can play a certain opponent, if implemented, would not amount to any effective or even intended limitation on the number of matches against a certain player. Instead it would be a limit on how many games could count toward your tournament score. For instance, if the Player Match Limit was set to 3, then once any two players hit 0-3, 1-2, 2-1, or 3-0, any further games they play that month would not be allowed in ranked play (i.e., the ladder + monthly tournament scores + ranked replays). They could only be broadcast as friendlies.
we dont want it.
Arjos vs capomafioso #3 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/b6LkZ605ck/Arjos-Capo-2_2012-06-15.rpy)
Snowy day in Thraike, but Galatai don't freeze :D
New win vs Arjos and his Egyptians, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/jsRO1cPHVR/Vega-Arjos-3_2012-06-15.rpy
-Stormrage-
06-15-2012, 11:18
while they are getting theyre wins i got my 5th loss in a row.
well, it was good while it lasted.
People please do not use snow maps
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-15-2012, 18:46
Do any units actually have bonuses in the snow?
The Celtic Viking
06-15-2012, 20:21
Some get varying degrees of penalties in it while others don't get it at all, but none actually get any positive bonus from it as far as I know. As long as the actual players are all fine with it I don't see how we could object to it. It's not like we're forcing people to stay out of forests either...
Play wherever you like. If you keep playing past the first minute immediately following the deployment phase, then in my eyes, you have accepted that map for your match. It would not be wise to lose and proceed to appeal, saying that the map conditions were not in your favor.
capomafioso
06-16-2012, 07:15
first win vs storm for this tournament, maybe attributed to his general foolishly suicide charging in the early stages of the battle. (btw arjos and storm sorry guys i was late for the pub so my score submissions are a bit late, but theyre there now)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/sroh0AGAEu/capo_2012-06-16.storm
Arjos vs capomafioso #4 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/AO0s9G7VoP/Arjos-Capo-3_2012-06-16.rpy)
Galatikoi bring chaos into the flanks, forcing a mass rout :P
Update: Added Score Report #2 to original post.
Sweboz vs AS.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85882654/TheFeatheredSerpent-Capo.rpy
Arjos vs Stormrage #2 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/BS4CKlEd-4/Arjos-Stormrage-2_2012-06-17.rpy)
Careless Pontic general brings the downfall of his army :P
-Stormrage-
06-17-2012, 14:13
Stormrage Vs Vega #2 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/gwIymwwsG9/Stormrage-Vega-1_2012-06-17.rpy)
Geasatea + Chariots + Gen death = Mass rout
Vega's gallics finally flee.
Stormrage Vs Vega #2 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/gwIymwwsG9/Stormrage-Vega-1_2012-06-17.rpy)
Geasatea + Chariots + Gen death = Mass rout
Vega's gallics finally flee.
No one will ever see General Bodyguard in my army composition again :D Well played it was close
No one will ever see General Bodyguard in my army composition again :D
Why not?
gamegeek2
06-19-2012, 01:14
The Armies of the Sakai take revenge upon the Seleukids, defeating them and their general Capo in a well-fought battle.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-19-2012, 21:05
Sloppy battle but the Carthaginians were victorious over Storm's Pontics.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/y2CY3jjCfB/BraveSirRobin-Stormrage-2_2012-06-19.rpy
Win vs Feather Serpent's Sweboz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/iTuyEv57gM/Vega-Ulysses-1_2012-06-20.rpy well played....
Battling to exhaustion against the honourable pontic king Stormrage.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85882654/TheFeatheredSerpent-Stormrage.rpy
Well, I disappeared for a while. Had some things in the real world that have interfered with my ability to scrounge up some time for games. I might have to announce that I am dropping out of this tournament. I apologise to all the people who would have defeated me, you will have to find those wins elsewhere.
Seriously though, I don't like flaking out so I hope you guys will forgive me. Good luck to you all.
No need to drop out. When you have time: play. If not: Do not play.
Well, I disappeared for a while. Had some things in the real world that have interfered with my ability to scrounge up some time for games. I might have to announce that I am dropping out of this tournament. I apologise to all the people who would have defeated me, you will have to find those wins elsewhere.
Seriously though, I don't like flaking out so I hope you guys will forgive me. Good luck to you all.
LOL so now that wins are deleted and scores are lowered of people who beat you?
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-21-2012, 07:17
No he's referring to possible future victors, not past ones
Just like Kival said, if you don't feel like playing tournament battles, no one is forcing you ^^
You can always join any other friendly battle, so to gain more experience and better understanding of the MP edu :)
Rightio, good news. I still felt like dropping in and letting people know. Thanks a bunch guys for the whole 'No pressure' attitude. how long til the tournament ends?
Hiya Blxz. Sorry to hear you 'go', but we're just letting you know that you're not really 'going' anywhere. These are casual monthly tournaments that do not schedule matchups (notice how you may play freely with whoever is on at any given moment?). I believe you were able to play a couple of games; that's great. If you really can't play any others this month, that's completely fine as well. I'm glad you participated, and I'm sure others are, too. Thanks for notifying us though, it will prevent people wondering where you might be if they don't see you online much. Hope you revisit us soon!
Sweboz vs AS reedition.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/85882654/TheFeatheredSerpent-Capo2.rpy
(Tell me in case you have problems downloading the replay, for I've not experience with dropbox).
General War
06-22-2012, 09:20
General War v Vega
elephants to the rescue.
http://www.mediafire.com/?s9mt8dvg90l1lm0
Arjos vs General War #1 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/7-uhSFiIaW/Arjos-GeneralW-1_2012-06-22.rpy)
Elephants perish to the tarantine tactics :D
Posted Score Report #3 [=
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-23-2012, 07:09
Another close battle, this time against Capo. You guys are making me work hard to keep that 0 in the right hand column:sweatdrop:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/NhSCUsn1mq/BraveSirRobin-Capo-1_2012-06-23.rpy
(Second) Victory for my aedui against Capo's Arche Seleukia:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/GMzl7gL3mh/Kival-capo-2_2012-06-26.rpy
V, could you post the all-time factions standings too?
Unless you are waiting for this month to end :)
Win vs Robin
http://www.mediafire.com/?pjqhoghmg0rfpdl
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-26-2012, 18:42
So modest :p
And the subsequent revenge for the Carthies against the steppe boys.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/Li2YVFRDFe/BraveSirRobin-LazyO-1_2012-06-26.rpy
gamegeek2
06-27-2012, 03:43
Indeed I am .
Credibility squandered.
LazyO has broken Robin's undefeated streak. All hail Sir Lazy for his courage. He did fall in the subsequent duel, but he stood for all those who fell before him at Robin's sword. All hail.
And Arjos, when this month is done and I publish the final score report and replay package, I'll also post an all-time tournament stats report.
The Celtic Viking
06-27-2012, 07:00
Two victories against Ulysses (The Feathered Serpent) Sweboz.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/bj6nSWqD5t/TheCelticViking-Ulysses_2012-06-27.rpy
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/3ZY5CYIeia/TheCelticViking-Ulysses-2_2012-06-27.rpy
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-27-2012, 14:06
Hopefully we won't have as many Saka players next month. They're a real pain:clown:
-Stormrage-
06-27-2012, 14:14
Now thats a battle worth watching, how can saka possibly beat those iberians.
Nice going lazyboy.
Hopefully we won't have as many Saka players next month. They're a real pain:clown:
A pain to play as well, I'm going carthage next month :P
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-27-2012, 20:23
Victory over the Sweboz of Ulysses (The Feathered Serpent).
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/Qz8Xc_aZuT/BraveSirRobin-Ulysses-2_2012-06-27.rpy
Vartan, we need a July Tournament thread soon too.
Now thats a battle worth watching, how can saka possibly beat those iberians.
I don't get why anyone would think Saka to be weak...
-Stormrage-
06-28-2012, 11:34
I don't get why anyone would think Saka to be weak...
Theyre infantry is nothing compared to what carthage has.
Closest battle i ever played in my life vs LMT somehow i managed to get important victory :) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/SGIF1jvPhE/Vega-LMT-3_2012-06-28.rpy
There have been 118 battles as of this writing. I only have 106 replays. There are 12 missing replays. If yours is missing from the list (link available in OP), please upload it.
https://i.imgur.com/9DsgQ.jpg
According to the ladder, Yavana has 18 victories but I see only 10 win-replays in the dropbox. So maybe it's primarily matches missing from yavana?
Capo has 10 victories according to ladder but only 8 replays. Gamegeek has only 2 replays but 5 victories. Stormrage has 10 victories but only 9 replays (victories always according to ladder)
Kival thank you but other people can fend for themselves. I simply ask people to check their own stats. Also, check the list of replays. If you haven't uploaded all of them, please upload the remaining ones promptly.
Pretty sure Yav never got around finding his hidden replay folder, so he doesn't have any replay of his victories, unless the opponents posted them for him...
-Stormrage-
06-30-2012, 19:29
And pretty sure i dont know what my missing victory is or whether i even recorded it.
Kival wins vs Robin:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dszgivlo7g9s3kt/Lh6KJGKI5H/Kival-Robin_2012-06-30.rpy
Did you perhaps miss my second victory against capo's AS, vartan?
Did you perhaps miss my second victory against capo's AS, vartan?
I have both.
AH, the score is not already updated, I see.
Alright. I'll close the doors to June as of this post. Any battles you have now go in the July thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141826-EBOT-2012-July). Don't upload old replays that I'm missing. I'll deal with those personally (we'll talk in PM once I determine which ones exactly are missing). Expect final score report soon.
EDIT: Final report up.
EDIT 2: All-time report up.
Yup, I cant find my replay folder. I tried all the things Kival told me, nothing works. Sorry for that. It is very unconvinient for me as I would like to watch some of the replays other people played. My score on the ladder is fine as i remember all the games I played. None of the games I have played was accused with rules violation except the one I had vs Arjos and we both agreed this game isnt going on the ladder, so the ladder score for me is fine. Is the lack of replays that much problem?:( Really sorry for that Vartan, I see how hard work You do here and I appreciete this and am grateful :)
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-01-2012, 14:21
I found mine in the virtual store folder. Any chance you never checked that one?
I found mine in the virtual store folder. Any chance you never checked that one?
I fear he did :(
My observations tell me that Rome is not a game programmed to use the operating system's built in virtual store system. Unfortunately, some of you have proven otherwise. As most of you know, the norm is that when you save a replay after a battle, that replay lands in [Rome directory]/EB/replays. How convenient is that? I see some of you have to go to the hidden folder located in your users folder in either of the two latest Microsoft operating systems in order to grab those replays. If you are wondering how you may avoid having to do that, the only solution I know of is to uninstall the game and reinstall outside the Program Files folder. That is to say, you must install in the root of a hard drive (for example, C:\Rome or C:\Rome - Total War). Program Files-internal software and their corresponding data files are dealt with by the OS in that virtual store.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-01-2012, 22:48
My observations tell me that Rome is not a game programmed to use the operating system's built in virtual store system. Unfortunately, some of you have proven otherwise. As most of you know, the norm is that when you save a replay after a battle, that replay lands in [Rome directory]/EB/replays. How convenient is that? I see some of you have to go to the hidden folder located in your users folder in either of the two latest Microsoft operating systems in order to grab those replays. If you are wondering how you may avoid having to do that, the only solution I know of is to uninstall the game and reinstall outside the Program Files folder. That is to say, you must install in the root of a hard drive (for example, C:\Rome or C:\Rome - Total War). Program Files-internal software and their corresponding data files are dealt with by the OS in that virtual store.
Something I learned the hard way after hours upon hours of C:\ searches. Thankfully Kival took the time to help me through this problem and now I reliably know where replays end up.
Alright, I will pack the month's replays without Yav's since he can't recover them. But gamegeek2 and capo, do you have your replays (3 for gg2, and 1 for capo)? Let me know when you can.
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