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Doctor Willenloss and his splendid invention, or how I learned to stop worrying and I love the time machine.
Munisch. Little town in the middle of Central America. Home to German emigrants and their children. And, of course, some other people.
Weather is mild and peaceful here. Town inhabitants are content to live simple, silent lives. Well, at least most of them.
“Commies, [bleep]ing commies! Merciful God, please wipe this red plague from the face of our poor planet!” Doctor Willenloss was in one of his bad moods. “Or I will eliminate them myself!. Yes, yes... that is what I have to do... McCarthy would be grateful, little silly man...” doctors yells hushed to mumbling. He allowed his assistants to take him back to the laboratory.
Adele, as always, took care of world-weary genius. He relaxed, letting her stroke his hand, and his assistants maintaining his machines. Especialy THE Machine. Machine, which soon be used for changing world history.
This was the biggest of old doctor's inventions. Machine that could be used to travel in time. Not only to travel, but also to change it. Remake. Doctor wanted to use it for changing events that shaped first decades of twentieth century. But the Machine was still only a prototype, which allowed only very limited time travels – for a maximum of three days. During last month doctor Willenloss and his assistants were working hard on this problem. Doctor even asked his son, professor Willess, for help, despite old enmity between this two men. But only a scientist can understand another scientist.
Limited range of machine operation was not the only problem. There were others, who wanted to use the machine for their own goals, among them members of Communist movement, so hated by old doctor. It was not known by him, but their agents inflitrated even the ranks of his closest collaborators...
Welcome to my small mafia game for 16-20 players.
Some basics:
game main new mechanic would be time machine, which could be operated by some characters. Details would not be described here, but expect that some actions and their results (even death!) may be reversed ("rewinded")
second thing: there would be gender of characters, It may become important, as: "you saw that your target was visited by a woman"
third: every character would have at least minor role (no vanilla townies); every character would have a name. Names may appear at descriptions of nights
Rules:
1. Communication outside the gamethread and sanctioned quick topics is not allowed
2. Each player would have a character with unique name. All descriptions made by host would use these names. Like: Jarema character is called 'Jerry'. Description of night: Jerry was spying doctor Willenloss, when the latter was attacked by masked men'
3. Yes, that also means that sometimes only gender of character would be revealed in description (you know, mafia like to hide their faces)
4. After death, only name reveal will happen immediatelly. Alignment reveal will happen after few days, together with role (or cover role) reveal.
5. There are few characters who, for different reasons, will have their alignment described as 'not clear' rather than 'mafia' or 'town'. Not every player would be aware that it is the case for their character. True role of character would not always be revealed
6. Time-revelsals may happen. If time is 'rewinded' all actions and they consequences will be annuled. For example, lynched players would no longer be lynched. But, you will all retain memories of your deeds (like scan results)
7. Each day will consist of 2 periods lasting 24 hours. It is important, as some abilities can be only used during first or second part of day. Nights will last 24 hours
List of characters:
doctor Arthur Willenloss, inventor
professor Felix Willess, his son
Jane, Mary, Fred, Igor & Mike, doctor's assistants
John Blake, Martha Burghes, Michael Connely, Adele Delacruse, William Lane, Ann Pferd, Adam Steiner, Eva Znanetzky, other Munisch' inhabitants
(some characters may be deleted, as needed)
Day 1:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053479161&viewfull=1#post2053479161
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053479510&viewfull=1#post2053479510
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053479650&viewfull=1#post2053479650
Day 2:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053479785&viewfull=1#post2053479785
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053479980&viewfull=1#post2053479980
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053480183&viewfull=1#post2053480183
Day 3:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053480421&viewfull=1#post2053480421
Day 2'
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053480852&viewfull=1#post2053480852
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053481108&viewfull=1#post2053481108
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053481359&viewfull=1#post2053481359
Day 3'
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053481607&viewfull=1#post2053481607
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053482069&viewfull=1#post2053482069
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053482598&viewfull=1#post2053482598
Day 4
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053483110&viewfull=1#post2053483110
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053483406&viewfull=1#post2053483406
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053483618&viewfull=1#post2053483618
Day 5
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142325-Doctor-Willenloss-and-his-splendid-invention-or-IN-PLAY&p=2053483878&viewfull=1#post2053483878
Montmorency
08-23-2012, 14:14
Time travel again?
Nice! I enjoyed blackadder's game hugely, in ^^
Time travel again?
Nice! I enjoyed blackadder's game hugely, in ^^
I was not in his game, I watched it for some time. Here it would be... hmm...
a little bit different but similar :laugh4:
Let's do the time warp again!
Communists and time travel? How can I resist - in!
I want to be a communist! In
DaveShack
08-24-2012, 17:21
I'm willing to try time travel again.
Nightbringer
08-24-2012, 21:42
I'll be IN
Maybe someone more wants to join?
I will advertise a little tommorow
Askthepizzaguy
08-27-2012, 20:18
I will join to fill ranks. :bow: My time will be divided, so don't expect Supertownie Pizzaguy, thanks.
Diana Abnoba
08-27-2012, 21:05
Sure why not I'm IN.
I will try to get more player today.
I can run it for a minimum of 14 players. I will just axe something
NinjaCow64
08-29-2012, 10:29
Interesting setup, professor!
robbiecon
08-29-2012, 12:40
I will join
Ironside
08-29-2012, 13:10
I'm going in!
It seems like I have minimum number needed to go. I will late a little bit longer, and start the game tommorow, aproximately 24 hours from now. I still hope for at least one player.
I added rules to the OP. All pms sent
All important inhabitants of Munisch gathered. Doctor Willenloss asked them to come. And when doctor asks, no one refuses. At least not openly.
When the last person arrived and taken her place, doctor stood up and started his speech:
'My assistants, my neighbours, and my son.
I gathered you here, because we have a problem. As all you know, I invented Time Machine.
The problem is, that someone else than your good old doctor seems to be using the machine! I am also aware that a group of communists tries to get my invention for themselves. They are among us. Yes, they are sitting here right now. We must do something about it! As you all know, I do not like half measures. We will vote and choose one person. Then, we will hang him or her. Simple and effective. And if we want to exterminate these red pests, we must do it. So, start talking!'
Day 1 begins. As stated in the rules it will last 2x24 hours (well, today a little shorter)
Time to midday:
Time to end of day 1:
Montmorency
08-30-2012, 22:19
Half-measures indeed. Who's using the time machine here, Igor or Felix? Has to be one or the other, excepting Commies.
I intend to go in hard for this game.
Vote: Diana Abnoba
Nightbringer
08-30-2012, 22:45
vote:BSmith
NinjaCow64
08-30-2012, 23:06
Good golly gosh! The amount of those terrible kinds of posts in a row has almost given me a heart attack! Vote: Nightbringer for the heinous crime of posting above me.
Good golly gosh! The amount of those terrible kinds of posts in a row has almost given me a heart attack! Vote: Nightbringer for the heinous crime of posting above me.
vote: NinjaCow64
:laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
08-31-2012, 01:03
vote:BSmith
What? No fake reasons given? Come on, it's a day one tradition to pretend to have reasons for voting for someone.
vote: NinjaCow64
:laugh4:
Laughing is not a reason. :whip:
AND NOW, A JOURNEY THROUGH MEMORY LANE
Anyway, it looks like from the game color, the color we're looking for is red. Communists instead of mafia.
Commies haven't had much luck here on the .org.
Capo IV, they got nearly exterminated, and failed to accomplish their objectives. And that was their best showing yet.
Capo III, I made sure they got wiped out. Even if they were my best friends. SPLITPERSONALITY!!!
And there was a game where Lord Winter was the only communist and we lynched him day one.
And IRL, the soviet union collapsed, cuba is an impoverished hole, and China is more robber baron capitalist than we are at this point.
So, basically, unless the town really screws it up, history suggests, COMMIES GONNA DIE.
Am I missing anything, anyone?
1. Edse
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. BSmith
5. Chaotix
6. Brickfaced
7. Ishmael
8. Xenoneb
9. DaveShack
10. Nightbringer
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13. NinjaCow
14. Robbiecon
15. Ironside
This is our list of victims.
Vote: Arjos
For he has not received a vote yet.
Askthepizzaguy
08-31-2012, 01:05
Blah. my ninja editing isn't what it used to be. Proofreading takes too much time.
Vote: Arjos in case it didn't count.
Montmorency
08-31-2012, 01:17
I'm glad to hear morale is low among your ilk.
Askthepizzaguy
08-31-2012, 01:19
I'm glad to hear morale is low among your ilk.
I am NOT an elk.
Ok, so basically, outside of thread communication is disallowed and everyone has a role of some sort...
...I'm thinking mass claiming townie network.
Either way, the last person to sign up obviously had a reason for being late, probably to busy being a naughty communist to realise they were part of the town's inhabitants. :whip:
vote: Ironside
Askthepizzaguy
08-31-2012, 01:32
I like the spread vote. Odds are very good we at least get a vote on a scummer this way.
Vote: Brickfaced
I hear you are a legend of sorts here, I'm honored :P
Askthepizzaguy
08-31-2012, 01:50
I did not play in or read carefully the other time travel game.
I think it might be worth it for someone who has to go over some of the differences in strategy, things we might use.
Vote: Brickfaced
I hear you are a legend of sorts here, I'm honored :P
6769
Askthepizzaguy
08-31-2012, 02:13
Overused meme is overused.
Overused meme is overused.
:quiet:
I did not play in or read carefully the other time travel game.
Well, I didn either
Vote: Arjos
I don't have time to say anything else, but ATPG seems to be a top notch Commy hunter so I follow him.
AND NOW, A JOURNEY THROUGH MEMORY LANE
Anyway, it looks like from the game color, the color we're looking for is red. Communists instead of mafia.
Commies haven't had much luck here on the .org.
Capo IV, they got nearly exterminated, and failed to accomplish their objectives. And that was their best showing yet.
Capo III, I made sure they got wiped out. Even if they were my best friends. SPLITPERSONALITY!!!
And there was a game where Lord Winter was the only communist and we lynched him day one.
And IRL, the soviet union collapsed, cuba is an impoverished hole, and China is more robber baron capitalist than we are at this point.
So, basically, unless the town really screws it up, history suggests, COMMIES GONNA DIE.
Am I missing anything, anyone?
Hey! Stop denigrating the good name of the Communist Party of Fatlington!
We would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids a mole....
Vote:John
I do not think there is a player with that name
DaveShack
08-31-2012, 17:37
Vote: ATPG
Someone's got to do it. And one of this favorite tactics when mafia or 3rd party is to make a show of being opposed to that party.
Askthepizzaguy
08-31-2012, 18:18
Vote: ATPG
Someone's got to do it. And one of this favorite tactics when mafia or 3rd party is to make a show of being opposed to that party.
Examples?
Differentiate making a show of being opposed to mafia and normal scumhunting.
I need the specifics, to determine whether you're simply in error, or are just pulling an argument ex rectum.
Vote: DaveShack
Someone's got to do it. I will be the people's champion.
Mid-day update
Tally:
Arjos: ATPG, Edse
Diana Abnoba: Montmorency
Xenoneb: BSmith
BSmith: Nightbringer
Nightbringer: NinjaCow
NinjaCow: Ishmael
Ironside: Brickfaced
Brickfaced: Arjos
ATPG: Daveshack
Daveshack: Chaotix
Doctor Willenloss coughed, and spoke:
'Common, people! Make your choice! Someone is going to be lynched today, even if everyone gets one vote. And I can assure you, that in such situation I surely will not choose someone dear to my heart.'
EDIT: After a moment, he added: "well. I am a little too old now. It seems I do not always count correct. Anyway, discuss!'
Btw Jarema, your tally is correct, but you have my name twice, so in fact I have two votes and in the lead :)
Thank you a lot. I missed that it is the same person twice
I'm sure that Jarema would have double checked if the commie's votes were correct, so I'll assume Arjos is innocent.
Unvote
Vote: Daveshack
Diana Abnoba
09-01-2012, 02:28
Vote: Xenoneb for not even looking at the player list before casting his vote. (:shrug: nothing else to go on 1st day).
Ironside
09-01-2012, 09:06
Vote: Diana Abnoba
All hail the random gods.
Tally:
Xenoneb (3): BSmith, Diana Abnoba
Diana Abnoba (2): Montmorency, Ironside
Arjos (2): ATPG, Edse
Daveshack (2): Chaotix, Brickfaced
BSmith (1): Nightbringer
Nightbringer (1): NinjaCow
NinjaCow (1): Ishmael
Brickfaced (1): Arjos
ATPG (1): Daveshack
Not voting: Robbiecon, Xenoneb
Doctor Willenloss coughed, and spoke:
'Common, people! Make your choice! Someone is going to be lynched today, even if everyone gets one vote. And I can assure you, that in such situation I surely will not choose someone dear to my heart.'
Inspired by doctor's short speech, gathered persons started to put second votes on some candidates. Also, at moment not noticed by others, someone passed a small anonymous note to doctor Willenloss, with name on it. Doctor, kind as always, decided to accept this vote despite it's unusual format.
'Well. I see you have decided. So, lets get rid of Mrs Burghes.'
When Martha heard that, she tried to escape. But crowd of people stopped him, and doctor Willenloss managed to put strange noose on his neck. 'You will have the honor of being first victim of my new invention!' exclaimed the scientist, and pushed big, red button.
The noose started to shrink, and the face of poor woman turned red, and then violet. After few moments, she passed out.
'I really hope that we got dirty commie here' – said doctor. But searching the body didn't reveal anything. 'Maybe after searching her stuff we will know something more? Anyway, I must admit that you are tough people. I did not expect that the first person you will choose for lynching would be a woman'
Xenoneb was Martha Burghes
Night 1 begins
NinjaCow64
09-02-2012, 06:09
Wait...wha' happened? No reveal? Night no over??? My brain no worky.
Wait...wha' happened? No reveal? Night no over??? My brain no worky.
Well. it was second part of day. Night is right now (14 hours left when I post it)
As for reveal: it is described in the rules, but I will repeat here: full reveal (role and allegiance) will happen later.
It is because time can be rewinded, and it would be too easy for town if they knew who they lynched
Askthepizzaguy
09-02-2012, 08:22
Lynching women... what a horribly wrongheaded pastime.
Old woman called Ann Pferd was standing at the porch of her house, watching her neighbourhood. Weather was calm, and everything was silent. When she started feeling sleepy, she walked inside. Suddenly, someone grabbed her from behind, sqeezing her throat. Poor old lady was incapable of breathing. Right before she passed away, she managed to loosen the grip, turn around and look into face of her killer. What she seen, shocked her: 'You... but... you always seemed to like me!'. Not answering, the man grasped her neck harder, and twisted. Then, he left her lifeless body at the middle of living room.
Few minutes later, another man came into living room. When he saw the body, he muttered to himself something like: 'damn, comrades will not be happy'.
Nightbringer was Ann Pferd
Day 2 begins
Time to midday:
Time to end of day 2:
OOC: I hope I sent all pms with night results. I am a little dissapointed with a low level of night activities
EDIT: Some of you have abilities that can be used during day. If you want to use them, remember to do it during correct part of day
NinjaCow64
09-02-2012, 22:06
Wait...it was night? That wasn't very clear from the writeups.
Wait...it was night? That wasn't very clear from the writeups.
oh, there is no way you could be the one that killed Nightbringer, you didn't even know it was night.
Bite: NinjaCow64
Whatta... I need a lamp, can't type in the dark.
Vote: NinjaCow64
Montmorency
09-02-2012, 23:22
You know, I love 24-year-old ladies. They are the perfect mix of youth and experience, I feel. It's so nice that they never come first; with younger girls, I always have the problem of satisfying them too soon. I just wish there were a way for Orgahs to connect with ~~S E X Y 24 - Y E A R - O L D W O M E N . C O M ~~.
I'd ask players to please not contact me, even if they are 24-year-old females. It's like a spam-post joke or something.
Second, at first glance it appears a Commie has been killed, eh?
Third: bite? Is there a vampire game going on?
FoS Edse
robbiecon
09-02-2012, 23:36
Montmorency Ah, I think that's just how edse greets people.
NinjaCow's opening post for the day does seem a little coincidental. So for now I'll FoS: NinjaCow. Also notice that NinjaCow voted for Nightbringer yesterday, so perhaps it was a personal goal to have him killed?
Diana Abnoba
09-03-2012, 19:33
Wait...it was night? That wasn't very clear from the writeups.
What crap NinjaCow :rolleyes:. Jarema even has a countdown clock. This is so :curtain: "Oh I'm so lost, I didn't even know it was night phase, so I couldn't have sent any kill order in, right everyone" :wink2:. You are a much better player than that, for you to be that lost. Vote: NinjaCow
Diana Abnoba
09-03-2012, 19:44
You know, I love 24-year-old ladies. They are the perfect mix of youth and experience, I feel. It's so nice that they never come first; with younger girls, I always have the problem of satisfying them too soon. I just wish there were a way for Orgahs to connect with ~~S E X Y 24 - Y E A R - O L D W O M E N . C O M ~~.
I'd ask players to please not contact me, even if they are 24-year-old females. It's like a spam-post joke or something.
Second, at first glance it appears a Commie has been killed, eh?
Third: bite? Is there a vampire game going on?
FoS Edse
What the ****. I hope this is a power someone has to make you say this, if not I can give you a few dating sites you may what to check out, or a name of a good Doctor. :laugh4:
What makes you think that a Commie has been killed? It seems to me that maybe it was just a wrong target killed or something like that. Maybe we have a bus driver type of role, or the wrong orders got sent...it's not really clear.
Ironside
09-03-2012, 20:17
Vote: Bsmith
Well it does apply to Diana as well. It's about either one of those two got a double vote power or host mistake. Xenoneb got 3 votes, but only two voted for him. :inquisitive:
Mid-day update
'My assistants, and my neighbours. Horrible things happened here. You have killed 2 out of 6 women that are living in our community. Were you thinking about anything while doing this?
Are you stupid or something? Just imagine what will happen, if our group was the last human population on Earth! How would we proliferate and reborn our species with only four females? Please, be more rational today. But, most important of all, be active! What is it?!? Three votes?!? You must be kidding'. With these words, doctor took his place at the middle of podium.
Tally:
NinjaCow: Edse, Diana Abnoba
BSmith: Ironside
To be fair to NinjaCow, he may not be able to see the timer (I know that I can't, for some reason). And I really doubt that mafia would make themselves so conspicuous early on.
Also, I'm going to vote: robbiecon, for FoSing but hanging back from voting. Yes, it's a flimsy reason; no, I don't have anything better.
robbiecon
09-03-2012, 21:59
To be fair to NinjaCow, he may not be able to see the timer (I know that I can't, for some reason). And I really doubt that mafia would make themselves so conspicuous early on.
Also, I'm going to vote: robbiecon, for FoSing but hanging back from voting. Yes, it's a flimsy reason; no, I don't have anything better.
Interestingly enough, it is pretty much your first point that made me simply FoS NinjaCow instead of voting him. I don't think that mafia would seem so obvious, so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
NinjaCow64
09-04-2012, 00:06
I'm in the lead, I may as well roleclaim. I'm a roleblocker, who didn't roleblock anybody last night because I honestly didn't know it was night. Trust me, I wouldn't be this derpy if I was Mafia, I learned my lesson from ATOC. *sheds a single tear*
But go ahead, please lynch me. At this stage I'm only going to serve as a major distraction for the town, so I may as well die as quickly as possible. Goodbye, cruel world. *sigh*
Monty's post is way over the top even by his standards...
So I'm going to vote: ATPG, it seems like a possession power and the text feels like something only Pizza would come up with XD
Montmorency
09-04-2012, 07:08
Over the top? That's good.
Possession power? Text? Are you referring to another game or something? There was no possession here. The text is the usual Jarema fare.
Vote: Arjos
Your post, with respect to this game, makes no sense. PIS?
Askthepizzaguy
09-04-2012, 07:29
Monty's post is way over the top even by his standards...
So I'm going to vote: ATPG, it seems like a possession power and the text feels like something only Pizza would come up with XD
Do I need to show you some leg, honey?
~:flirt:
The text is the usual Jarema fare.
Uhm lol?
I was speaking of yours (the spam-bot joke etc), not the write-up...
Askthepizzaguy
09-04-2012, 07:33
I have a feeling someone is responsible for a numeral-based love letter I received.
Bit mystified by it but I think it's not a power a scumbag would need.
Montmorency
09-04-2012, 07:51
I have a feeling someone is responsible for a numeral-based love letter I received.
That is very interesting.
Askthepizzaguy
09-04-2012, 08:09
Vote: Brickfaced
Vote: Brickfaced
Was the love letter composed of six sevens?
Vote: Arjos
Askthepizzaguy
09-04-2012, 19:31
No it contained fewer numbers than that. I don't want to put a finer point on it than that.
I'm being deliberately vague so that if this is some kind of handshaking device, the person who did it can continue to do it without someone guessing it.
Vote: Bsmith
Well it does apply to Diana as well. It's about either one of those two got a double vote power or host mistake. Xenoneb got 3 votes, but only two voted for him. :inquisitive:
Yeah, I noticed that too. I’m going to have to say it was Xenoneb, as I sure don’t have an extra vote. I’ll vote for someone who doesn’t have any votes on them to prove it. vote: Edse
Was the love letter composed of six sevens?
Vote: Arjos
:kiss:
Tally:
NinjaCow: Edse, Diana Abnoba
Arjos: Montmorency, Chaotix
BSmith: Ironside
Robbiecon: Ishmael
ATPG: Arjos
Ironside: Brickfaced
Brickfaced: ATPG
Edse: BSmith
'Well. I see you decided to lynch either NinjaCow or Arjos. I must say that I would prefer Arjos to stay among us for little longer. So, NinjaCow, you must die. At least, you are not a woman. As a real man, I suppose you will prefer to took your life yourself, with a sword? Please, take one of these' – doctor Willenloss pointed blades hanging on the wall.
NinjaCow took deep breath, and then, with one smooth move, catch one of the swords and decapitated himself. 'Real gentleman' – said doctor. 'Even laws of physics couldn't stop him from doing right thing'.
NinjaCow was William Lane
'I have also some bad news for you. I do not know well all of you, so I was also shocked to learn that first person we decided to lynch was a policewoman. She was really good woman, clearly not associated with red scum. Why did you want to do that? Who will you kill next? A mayor?!? Or FBI agent?? Really, you should all start to think harder. Now, go to your homes.' With this words, old scientist leaved his guests and entered mansion.
Xenoneb was Martha Burghes. She was a policewoman
List of living players
1. Edse
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. BSmith
5. Chaotix
6. Brickfaced
7. Ishmael
8.
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14. Robbiecon
15. Ironside
Dead players
Xenoneb, Martha Burghes. Policewoman. Allegiance: town
Nightbringer, Ann Pferd
NinjaCow, William Lane
Night 2 begins.
Montmorency
09-04-2012, 21:13
Crap, Ninja was probably a town role.
It's very interesting that three players have received codes.
Jarema, please include updated rosters alongside your writeups. Soon it will ecome difficult to keep track of who's around.
Update roster? Do you mean list of living/dead players?
If so, I will do it. For now, it is in the op.
Michael Connely decided to spy professor Willess. Michel's intuition does not full him about his intended target. Professor doesn't sit at his house, but he rather visited someone else. Unfortunately, before Michael could see anything more, he was shoot down. The killer departed into the night, saying silently: 'For the People'.
Edse was Michael Connely
Someone else was on the hunt during the same night. Eva Znanetzky was peeking into windows of John Blake's house, when someone grabbed her from behind and started strangling her. When she passed out, the perpetrator undressed her, almost completely. When he tried to remove Eva's underwear, she regained consciousness. 'Why? You are so handsome, if you asked me, I would be yours without all...' at this moment, his knife silenced her forever.
BSmith was Eva Znanetzky
“I have another sad news for you' said doctor Willenloss entering the meeting. 'Late Ann Pferd was a good neighbour, valuable member of our community. Those dirty commies owe us for one more innocent victim. Please, double your efforts to catch them!'
Nightbringer was Ann Pferd. She was a nosy neighbour (role-scanner). She was innocent
Day 3 begins
Time to midday:
Time to end of day 3:
I will put listo of players here later
Montmorency
09-05-2012, 21:35
It definitely seems as though there's an SK in addition to the Commies.
We're losing roles fast. I - I...I will not allow it!
I am Willenloss!
Witness the true power of this fully operational Time Machine!
This is a big gamble. Would be a shame to die before making use of my other fancy powers. If there's a doctor or protector among the living or the dead, please protect me tonight.
Montmorency
09-05-2012, 21:40
Igor, Adolf - we must unite. Put aside these petty squabbles and let our family be whole once more.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 02:25
List of living players
1.
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4.
5. Chaotix
6. Brickfaced
7. Ishmael
8.
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14. Robbiecon
15. Ironside
Dead players
Xenoneb, Martha Burghes. Policewoman. Allegiance: town
Nightbringer, Ann Pferd, Role Scanner. Allegiance: town
NinjaCow, William Lane
Edse, Michael Connelly
BSmith, Eva Znanetzky
Doctor, I am Adele Delacruse, your..... (ugh) ...love and muse.
[Edit hours later: It's true because it rhymes.] :laugh4:
I will do everything in my power to keep you safe tonight. Even if it means my life.
That time machine of yours better work. ~:flirt:
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 02:26
It's perhaps because of my role that I got your secret love letter containing 24, is that so?
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 02:35
Robbiecon's not voting, and this may be our last chance to get rid of him. He's not helping lynch any scum. I also know he just joined the Dr Who game on TWC so I doubt he's legitimately inactive.
I tend to discount Diana, because if she were mafia, you'd be dead already Monty. :tongue2:
My other top suspects are DaveShack and Brickfaced. DaveShack for voting for me and then disappearing and Brickfaced because of the murder choices.
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 02:37
No - I got it as well. Don't post first, and all.
So you caught this?
You know, I love 24-year-old ladies. They are the perfect mix of youth and experience, I feel. It's so nice that they never come first; with younger girls, I always have the problem of satisfying them too soon. I just wish there were a way for Orgahs to connect with ~~S E X Y 24 - Y E A R - O L D W O M E N . C O M ~~.
Now is the time for mass reveals. With midday comes the ruckus. If we can't network in the shadows, then we shall do it in the open air as free men should.
U-S-A! U-S-A!
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 02:40
I have the power to stop a murder, and I need to be vague on how for reasons I will explain after the night ends. You'll get either my death or an explanation, unless you absolutely insist on knowing how today.
Fair?
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 02:43
Vote: Brickfaced
I hope those bricks are laced with thermally-insulated mercury. :wiseguy:
...this is a terrible idea.
You are all targets now.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:00
...this is a terrible idea.
You are all targets now.
Boo-hoo. How many rounds do we have left? How much longer will secrecy even matter? The Doctor called for a mass reveal. He said he wanted protection. Now the scum have other targets.
Man up. I can't, seeing as I have a vagina. So I need you to.
Boo-hoo. How many rounds do we have left? How much longer will secrecy even matter? The Doctor called for a mass reveal. He said he wanted protection. Now the scum have other targets.
Man up. I can't, seeing as I have a vagina. So I need you to.
Yeah, how is protection going to work if there are now multiple valid targets for the mafia to hit?
The doctor's reveal was fine, a good idea, but I can't say the same about your reveal (especially that you have some sort of ability) and anyone else who decides to join you.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:10
Didn't I just go through this nonsense?
Fine. I'll go through it again.
http://www.giraffeboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32
Townie called for a mass reveal after the game is essentially over and nothing but townies had died. Nobody backed him up except me. We insisted on the reveal, and said we would vote for ourselves and therefore hold the game hostage unless there was a mass reveal.
The folks who insisted it was a horrible idea for the town WERE THE MAFIA. The townies complied.
We lynched 5 of the scumbags in a row and won.
Claim now, Chaotix.
I see half the living players claim, then I'll do it myself.
Not before. The mafia can pick and choose who they want to kill and any protection is rendered useless.
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 03:14
If all reveal, we all become targets - as before.
If all reveal, we can wink the scum out through cross-checks, double checks, enhanced social monitoring, redundancy, and event logging.
Muster your courage and arise, townies. Only the lynched scum have seen the end of networking.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:17
And yes, all 5 lynches were lynch or lose for the town. Especially fun was hearing them scream "there's no case on me!" before they died.
The people scared to claim were scum. Simple simple. Do you know how many rounds remain? If two mafia, we're not sunk yet, but doubtful this is the case in a game with power roles.
Three mafia? What about 3 mafia and a sk? Other variations, like in Capo where the communists had a cell that didn't know each other at the start? We don't know the setup and we're getting a beatdown- at this point I am assuming we are at lynch or lose, or next round is lynch or lose (with a standard 3 mafiosi setup) assuming worst case no scums dead.
That's why not claiming actually hurts town and helps the mafia. We need a correct lynch today, not tomorrow.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:19
I see half the living players claim, then I'll do it myself.
Not before. The mafia can pick and choose who they want to kill and any protection is rendered useless.
unvote, vote: Chaotix
No, you claim next. You want to see other claims so you don't claim something that can be counter-claimed.
Monty, back me.
It only works if everyone does it. If I join you two and the rest of the town sits on its thumbs, which incidentally is rather likely since we have a bunch of lurkers, then me revealing is a detriment to the town.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:22
It only works if everyone does it. If I join you two and the rest of the town sits on its thumbs, which incidentally is rather likely since we have a bunch of lurkers, then me revealing is a detriment to the town.
:wiseguy: The order of the reveals was pretty telling in that game, too. He who reveals last, reveals least.
This one just bumped up to numero uno.
:wiseguy: The order of the reveals was pretty telling in that game, too. He who reveals last, reveals least.
This one just bumped up to numero uno.
You're making good points, and I see why you are suspicious of me.
Which is why it is sad that you are so wrong.
To be fair, it is probably my fault. I should have said nothing and waited to see what would happen.
What I am interested in is how you plan to protect the professor.
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 03:27
I am interested in it.
1.
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4.
5. Chaotix
6. Brickfaced
7. Ishmael
8.
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14. Robbiecon
15. Ironside
All are active enough.
I will not be casting a vote for a few hours. The reason shall become transparent.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:29
What I am interested in is how you plan to protect the professor.
You've probably picked up on the subtext. I didn't necessarily claim doctor, now did I.
Nevertheless, what I can do provides protection to the Doctor. Why are you trying to find out what that is? It makes me feel like you're trying to circumvent.
Yeah, I think I've got it.
There's no way you can be a doctor. Because you are a woman, and this is the 1950's.
Anyway I am muddling around a decision. No PM rule is killing me here, because I would reveal to Monty in a heartbeat.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:35
Maybe I'm a woman from say, 2012 who is a doctor and the other doctor used a time machine and fell in love with me and brought me back to the 1950s.
Yes, a stretch. But let me put it this way: your line of inquiry caused more damage to the town than simply claiming your role in the first place. Now we can assume that I am not a doctor and that you are some other kind of powerful town role.
Had you simply bluffed, we might have been able to keep us all alive. Come on Chaotix, it's not Chess, it's Poker.
Nah.
If you can read this
Unless your way of protecting the doctor is dying in his place, then things are better this way.
without highlighting it
And since you said you would explain tomorrow, I'm assuming that's not the case.
then it wouldn't work
Besides, the mafia are going to think I'm lynchbait and leave me alive.
and I made a good call
I was really contemplating telling you to read between the lines and then filling it with a white-text roleclaim, but I realized not everybody uses the Morbid skin.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:41
I'm hammering you because it's more difficult to craft an endgame strategy and a claim under immediate circumstances not knowing what the other claims will be.
Your continual delays on claiming cause me to believe your eventual claim less and less.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:44
You've got nothing to lose now, C.
You've essentially admitted to being an essential role, because you refuse to claim and are trying to craft ways of claiming that are indirect.
So the mafia know you're a target if you survive. What precisely are you benefiting the town by not full-claiming at this point?
I'm almost at the point where I want to let it go, but the damage is done. I want to know the role now. Might help me redirect my vote.
You've got nothing to lose now, C.
You've essentially admitted to being an essential role, because you refuse to claim and are trying to craft ways of claiming that are indirect.
So the mafia know you're a target if you survive. What precisely are you benefiting the town by not full-claiming at this point?
I'm almost at the point where I want to let it go, but the damage is done. I want to know the role now. Might help me redirect my vote.
Nope. There it is. That's what I needed.
You believe I am town, but you are still voting for me unless I reveal.
I think you are a double-bluffing scum right now. There is too much SRSbznss in your posts and not enough ATPG.
You claim you can protect the doctor, which is wrong.
You are a lying, traitorous, two-timing communist and no one will believe me but there it is.
Vote: ATPG
I am sorry. Got a hunch and won't let go of it. I hate that I always do this. I am probably wrong, but you are scum.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:51
Wow, you're right I had been slightly leaning town on you and was about to unvote, but there's nothing at this point that you have left to hide. You just cannot come up with a good lie.
You are scum. That was the breaking point. You couldn't come up with a claim and now you're caught and sunk.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:53
Hammer them in real time, folks. That's how you get them. :bounce:
Lies are difficult to make up on the spot. You have to be confident they'll work even after other people claim. Chaotix just chickened out.
Cluck cluck.
Please, I can come up with plenty of good lies if I need to. You have seen me in action. In fact I have practically revealed just through the posts I have made. Read between the lines.
This is not ATPG in scum-hunting mode, this is ATPG in scum-picking mode.
Granted, I am like the ripest scum apple on the scum tree here, but you're still picking and not hunting.
This is why you are mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 03:58
If you're spectating and still alive, you need to get involved. The same holds true for you: If you don't claim willingly, after the core of the town just told you to claim, then you're scum.
Chaotix, the only reason you "find me scummy" is I asked you to claim after Monty asked everyone to claim. You also know how to scum-hunt and this isn't that.
No, I just have this really stupid idiot gut feeling and you are actually not denying what I just said which means you are scum.
Incidentally, what will you do when I flip town?
After you kill Monty, I mean.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:02
No, I just have this really stupid idiot gut feeling and you are actually not denying what I just said which means you are scum.
I honestly don't follow. Do you mean I'm not denying being scum or something? I already claimed townie with a kill-stopping power.
Start making sense and CLAIM YOUR ROLE!
I honestly don't follow. Do you mean I'm not denying being scum or something? I already claimed townie with a kill-stopping power.
Start making sense and CLAIM YOUR ROLE!
1. You didn't deny that you're not scum-hunting.
2. If you are so set on me being mafia, why do you still care what my role is? Answer: because you know I am town because you are mafia and you want to know what sort of deadly secrets I have that might make me a better kill than Monty tonight, assuming the lynch-wagon does not consume me.
DaveShack
09-06-2012, 04:09
I'm still here. It is possible that one silent person is being prevented from posting. If this is the case, I'm not responsible but I know how it was done. Others know this too, assuming the roles are consistent -- I'd have to read back through the reveals to find out how many.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:11
1. You didn't deny that you're not scum-hunting.
2. If you are so set on me being mafia, why do you still care what my role is? Answer: because you know I am town because you are mafia and you want to know what sort of deadly secrets I have that might make me a better kill than Monty tonight, assuming the lynch-wagon does not consume me.
1. Big What (http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Stone_Cold_-_What_8269.jpg) goes here.
Didn't deny it because it was so ridiculous. I've got you on the ropes, and soon comes the Stone Cold Stunna.
2. I care because you have absolutely nothing left to protect and your being stubborn about it matches EXACTLY the level of stubbornness of each and every remaining member of the mafia in the Handbasket Mafia. They refused to claim on principle (SisterCoyote) because it was bad for the town (Colby11 and Metallic Squink) and went to their graves whining that there was no case and also, whatcha gonna do when I flip town?
My question to you is why do all scumbags, across forums, with different personalities, who haven't even heard of one another, act the same way?
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:13
Here's Polluxo on why he waited so long to claim:
I didn't know the scum had a roleblocker until toDay, when mothedrine reported he got blocked. How'd you know the scum had a roleblocker before then? Furthermore, I claimed I had a power role because I was about to be lynched, not because I felt like claiming willy-nilly. Your vote stinks of bandwagonning.
Scum.
Do you need more examples? I can hammer this all day. I can even get org examples if you'd like. I know Raffe isn't everyone's cup o tea.
Yeah ok we are both waiting to see who will respond to Dave first, I get it.
Look Dave, we were just having this really good argument, you think you can come back in about an hour with that really interesting tidbit that will totally change the subject?
(:clown:)
I don't know what to think of this except you are implying multiple people all have the same role ability.
EDIT: Refresh, how does it work? I totally should have seen ATPG's posts before starting mine.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:18
You remain focused, Chaotix! I am Askthepizzaguy and I will have ORDER!!!
You do not start talking to DaveShack in the middle of a beatdown. That's just disrespectful.
This is very sad, because I want to believe you are not scum, ATPG.
But if you are not, then everybody loses because you are wrong about me and I derailed this mass-reveal and probably lost us the game.
If you are scum, then just the second part is true but the mass reveal was probably playing right into your hand anyway.
So... already screwed it up, gotta stick to my guns unless I see something that trumps this whole exchange.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:25
And now, the Chaotix con-chair-to.
"Whatcha gon' do when I flip town?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb8u8J0RUNA)
What you gon' do when I flip town?
I flip town when I go down
I'ma get, get, get, get, your mates,
Get all your commie teammates too!
You're scum. You're scum you're scum you're scum. Chaotix is really scum. (Check it out)
I drive these commies crazy,
I do it on the daily,
They actin' really scummy
They get me all these votes
Chaotix and that Arjos
And all their other teammates
Commies, they be be sharin'
All their money got me wearin'
(brown)
Comrade I ain't askin,
They say they love mother Russia,
USSR, No Religion's,
I say no, but they keep marchin'
So I keep on talkin'
And no I ain't walkin
We can keep on debatin'
I keep on demonstrating.
I'd finish this but honestly this song is the worst song of all time. If you're going to lynch me, lynch me for posting THAT song.
I am assuming you are town for this scenario. If you are mafia, it doesn't matter what I say to you but the real townies might be watching.
Look at it this way: I reveal now, and maybe you believe I am town. Doesn't make a damn difference because I am nightkilled instantly.
I keep quiet, and there is a chance, if I survive the lynch, that maybe I do something good before being inevitably nightkilled.
I have already screwed it up beyond repair, just trying to pick up the pieces.
Also I would make a comment here about how these posts of yours will look really silly when I am a dead townie, but that will just feed your ego and you will keep doing it. And then you will look even more silly.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:31
I can also do The Rock.
"Claim your role, and shut your mouth, Jabroni!"
:cool4:
Yeah I don't watch that anymore, that's why these references are so dated.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:34
I am assuming you are town for this scenario. If you are mafia, it doesn't matter what I say to you but the real townies might be watching.
Look at it this way: I reveal now, and maybe you believe I am town. Doesn't make a damn difference because I am nightkilled instantly.
Hi my name is Chaotix my role is one the mafia should nightkill instantly but I don't want to claim because then I might get nightkilled instantly.
Instead I'd rather be lynched instantly.
The Rock says it DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOUR ROLE IS! The Rock is exactly One, Two, Three seconds away... from taking that claim, shining it up real nice.... TURNING IT SIDEWAYS.....
Meh. I am in a lose-lose situation, which I put myself into.
Arguing with you is going nowhere, it is literally just the same lines back and forth with maybe some different wording and a bad rap parody here or there.
I would prefer to agree to disagree so we can get back to whatever this was going towards beforehand. Everyone knows I am today's lynch anyway.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:42
And now, the People's Elbow, from the People's Champion!
*BAM*
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRghquej3t051ndcqTkrdsxc23stVhK3lwE_QupWItX0zoK6w57
Who's next?
And now, the People's Elbow, from the People's Champion!
Ok, that is totally communist what you are not even trying to hide it. This is the sort of stuff I do so I can go back to my posts and point and laugh after I win as mafia, assuming I win.
Anyway, since you are in the mood I DO want to hear what you will do when I flip town.
You said it yourself, this is Poker. I bet I AM TOWN. What do you raise me?
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:48
Ok, that is totally communist what you are not even trying to hide it. This is the sort of stuff I do so I can go back to my posts and point and laugh after I win as mafia, assuming I win.
Anyway, since you are in the mood I DO want to hear what you will do when I flip town.
You said it yourself, this is Poker. I bet I AM TOWN. What do you raise me?
:laugh4: You never watched the wrasslin', didya?
People's elbow/People's Champion are Rock's catchphrases. You're really grasping at straws now.
As for what I'm going to do "when you flip town", I refer you to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb8u8J0RUNA).
I am now going to take a shower.
With bleach.
For my eyes.
When I am back hopefully we have a discussion going about something not related to me being scum.
But I will be back. I am having fun now, even if it is a morbid "even though I am going to die" sort of fun.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 04:54
What you have just witnessed is why I play mafia.
Without personality, this game would be really boring and simple. Randomly lynch people.
Instead you can has cheezburger fun.
Ok, I was totally expecting some sort of sweet discussion here for me to drop in on and not have to defend myself.
But that didn't happen.
But let no one say I did not return!
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 05:54
A townie's only duty is to die for the greater good. Do you understand? Townies die - they do not surrender.
I am buying us time. What I am doing gives the possibility of revitalization.
Bear with me and you will see that Pizza may indeed only become a tertiary target tonight. As for yourself -
ARE YOU MY SON, CHAOTIX?
ANSWER ME.
With every prevarication, the scum grow more assured. They scheme, Chaotix. Do you scheme, Chaotix?
Diana Abnoba
09-06-2012, 06:16
I think your both over the top with this argument, and could possibly be mafia partners.:tongue: Or your both town and just over the top, or you actually got some sleep today and too much soda or something. I can't decide, need to think on it for a bit. But, Pizza I should lynch you just for that video, I need a shower now too. (sick puppy):laugh4:
Diana Abnoba
09-06-2012, 06:20
But for Monty I will claim here (I know he is what he claims to be). I am one of your sons Monty.
Diana Abnoba
09-06-2012, 06:33
For you Monty, I will add some more pressure, Vote: Chaotix for now.
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 06:34
A claim like that isn't useful or even very credible unless I know what you can do.
Diana Abnoba
09-06-2012, 06:35
Already told you, read between the lines.
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 06:36
You never said that - Chaotix did.
I'm getting a very uneasy sensation in my gut.
Diana Abnoba
09-06-2012, 06:40
Said what? I said "I KNOW he is what he claims to be".
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 06:51
Sounds like town knowledgeable is what she's claiming. Hence why not going after Monty all game. Makes sense.
Sons would know who he is, also makes sense.
Yes this is all very sense-making, I say while nodding convincingly.
I could always shake my enormous butt some more. Or shave that horrible neckbeard (http://ohinternet.com/Neckbeard).
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 06:52
It's difficult for me to believe that such a great Name would possess a lowly Name-Scan role.
Edit: Even more difficult to believe that it's only foreknowledge of my identity.
But this is why we need many roleclaims to vet.
Diana Abnoba
09-06-2012, 07:17
NOOOOOO!!! Pizza STOP with the video pics, now I'm going to vomit. It is just torture.
Monty it is true, stop being so paranoid (that's usually my job).
robbiecon
09-06-2012, 14:26
I am one of the Doctor's assistants, I am an armor.
I read through the entire Chaotix-ATPG conversation. I don't think it was simply smoke and mirror distraction by mafia team mates. I am going to trust ATPG though, because he claimed, and because I know as well as anyone that mafia do love to hold out on claiming. So I will Vote: Chaotix.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 14:28
Thank you for coming forward Robbie; I had you on my suspicions list and this helps greatly with that.
I regret, my Doctor, that we might be in that dreaded situation where the only claimants are the few active/caring townies remaining. It would seem that Chaotix' prediction, scummy as it was, was accurate.
This is inexcusable. This isn't even a weekend.
If I were still alive, I would without a doubt be voting for Chaotix.
A townie's only duty is to die for the greater good. Do you understand? Townies die - they do not surrender.
I am buying us time. What I am doing gives the possibility of revitalization.
Bear with me and you will see that Pizza may indeed only become a tertiary target tonight. As for yourself -
ARE YOU MY SON, CHAOTIX?
ANSWER ME.
With every prevarication, the scum grow more assured. They scheme, Chaotix. Do you scheme, Chaotix?
Not your son, Monty.
John Blake, one of your assistants.
I'd like to note that in addition to being right about there being too many lurkers for a mass reveal, this sort of thing that has happened to me happens to pro-town almost as often as it does to mafia. That is why scum do it anyway, because it's a last-ditch attempt and sometimes it works.
Ok, to start with, my first post since day 1 started:
Ok, so basically, outside of thread communication is disallowed and everyone has a role of some sort...
...I'm thinking mass claiming townie network.
Of course, It may just be that I like my wine symmetrical to my outward facing torso, but still.
Listen up. ~:handball:
List of characters:
doctor Arthur Willenloss, inventor
professor Felix Willess, his son
Jane, Mary, Fred, Igor & Mike, doctor's assistants
John Blake, Martha Burghes, Michael Connely, Adele Delacruse, William Lane, Ann Pferd, Adam Steiner, Eva Znanetzky, other Munisch' inhabitants
(some characters may be deleted, as needed)
List of living players
1. Edse
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. BSmith
5. Chaotix
6. Brickfaced
7. Ishmael
8.
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14. Robbiecon
15. Ironside
Dead players
Xenoneb, Martha Burghes. Policewoman. Allegiance: town
Nightbringer, Ann Pferd
NinjaCow, William Lane
First off, the 3 deaths are all from munisch's ordinary inhabitants and not from the assistants that we know of, baring in mind everyone has a role of some sort, we might not have lost specifically great roles, since the vast majority of us strike me as having pro-town powers.
If it is relevant, I can also pledge that I received a PM in regards to 24.
My other top suspects are DaveShack and Brickfaced. DaveShack for voting for me and then disappearing and Brickfaced because of the murder choices.
Is that all you have to say on the matter? Feel free to elaborate. You've got my attention now.
@ ATPG, Chaotix
I don't believe either of you are being particularly helpful to town by producing barrages of squabbling posts. I don't mind reading them, but I can bet that some will begrudge it and perhaps miss the occasional post that is productive in the process. I do feel that whilst Chaotix was damned from the initial point he hesitated, he does come off more scummy as a result, but it would be far to predictable and probably errant for me to vote for either of you off hand.
I am under the belief that claiming is pro town in this situation because typically, only mafia would claim last minute to save their skin for one more round.
But for Monty I will claim here (I know he is what he claims to be). I am one of your sons Monty.
The character list surely suggests he has only 1 son, why the plural? And your role doesn't strike me as being particularly powerful compared to those who have perished, since you are the doctor's son. In fact, it would be great irony if the Doctor's son was a communist. You also seem to be buddying with Monty far too much for my liking, dedicating two of your decisions to him.
I am one of the Doctor's assistants, I am an armor.
I read through the entire Chaotix-ATPG conversation. I don't think it was simply smoke and mirror distraction by mafia team mates. I am going to trust ATPG though, because he claimed, and because I know as well as anyone that mafia do love to hold out on claiming. So I will Vote: Chaotix.
What is your name, what do you mean by armor? Jumping on the Choatix wagon seems unwise, not that I resent the idea of lynching him, but that we should have a few candidates in the running to encourage application of pressure. If he is town the mafia don't even have to defend themselves since they aren't under any scrutiny whatsoever.
And finally, in this gargantuan post. My role.
I'm Jane, Doctor's assistant. I can role block once in the game under a certain condition. Only certain mafia player(s) are able to kill me but for my own safety, it is important I don't reveal the prerequisites.
That's all folks.
...oh and I'll vote later, I want to gauge the posts that proceed after mine.
Someone else was on the hunt during the same night. Eva Znanetzky was peeking into windows of John Blake's house, when someone grabbed her from behind and started strangling her. When she passed out, the perpetrator undressed her, almost completely. When he tried to remove Eva's underwear, she regained consciousness. 'Why? You are so handsome, if you asked me, I would be yours without all...' at this moment, his knife silenced her forever.
Not your son, Monty.
John Blake, one of your assistants.
If I were still alive, I would without a doubt be voting for Chaotix.
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Correction, I am not an assistant.
At least not a sciencey lab-coat and beaker assistant.
But I do work in the lab.
Anyway, I agree with Brickfaced that I have vastly messed up this round. I have been making a List of Things Chaotix Could Have Done to Survive this Round.
It goes something like this, in order of effectiveness:
1. Keep my mouth shut
2. Reveal as soon as Monty posts
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9001. Try to debate ATPG
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Unfortunate, but it wasn't me. This is simply you-getting-killed-while-trying-to-investigate-me.
Probably by a serial killer, because that guy does not sound typically communist.
Actually you being an investigator is making me suspicious of what Diana has claimed. Two role investigators in one game?
There is another clue in the write-up, but I am afraid I can't say much more because I am dead.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2012, 18:38
9001. Try to debate ATPG
If you'd like to see even greater butt-whoopin', Chapter III has begun. Link in signature as always.
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 18:46
BSmith, you can hint at it. Just, stick around for a couple of hours and I'll find a semantic loophole for you.
Chaotix, we see that edse was also doing some spying when he died. I was absent from the house when he was killed by an obvious Commie. Bsmith was doing something similar (if scum, checking for recruitability?), and when he died your location was not given. That's interesting.
That's two scanners, and I'd bet there are more. Jarema loves scanner-variety. Anyway, Diana claimed that she started off knowing my identity. I wouldn't be surprised if she happens to be hiding a trick up her sleeve.
Yes, you are indeed claiming to be one of the Munisch townfolk.
Robbiecon, what is an armor? I can't find documentation on any such role.
The character list surely suggests he has only 1 son, why the plural?
Igor is my son. Years ago, Adolf messed him up, and they haven't spoken since. It is certainly possible that one of my sons is out for something as a personal goal. It is even possible that one of them is an SK or communist.
Munisch's inhabitants were discussing fiercely. Well, at least some of them. In the heat of discussion they didnt notice that doctor Willenloss vanished somewhere.
Tally:
Chaotix: ATPG, Diana Abnoba, Robbiecon
ATPG: Chaotix
Willenloss shaved slowly, his face half-lit by dimmed light. He could feel that something had gone wrong again. At this rate, the machine would fall into Communist hands. Perhaps it should be destroyed - pounding. Willenloss only felt the sound of running footfalls unified with the other senses now. His breathing drew shallow, and he lowered the straight razor - his beautiful American grandfather's - to let it hang limply somewhere before his clavicle. The sunlight took his white-smeared face in full. He was calm when the assistant called from the other side of the door. The machine could not be destroyed. Not after so much labor.
"Doctor, Eva and Michael have been - "
"I know. I always feared that the townsfolk chiefly would feel the first wave of Fifth Columnist violence. Now we must surely be next."
...
"Rouse the others. Prepare the Machine."
It was noon when the Doctor assembled the ten little Indians in a clearing near his lab.
"Thus far it has been a catastrophe for us. 5 dead, no end in sight, and now news that there may well be three killers among us? It was my oversight, not to contact the authorities, you know. I was terribly afraid that the state would appropriate my machine. I know Einstein has been writing much of time travel in the journals lately."
Igor wheeled a tarpaulin-covered cart into the clearing. The canvas material shivered along the edge of something metallic in the cool autumn wind.
"The phone lines are now cut, however, and there's no time and no one to spare for a contact mission. I'm afraid we're all stuck here, and the forces of tyranny may soon overtake us. I cannot allow this machine to fall into Communist hands. I will work against such an outcome unto death.
For this reason", Willenloss suddenly yelled at the top of his lungs, spreading his arms wide, "I am going all-in - as shall you all. This is the hour, fellows! Here, we shall tell every single thing. Let there be no secrets between us. This is the Red Confession!"
The gathered individuals gawped in shock. Several, including the Reds, shuffled uneasily their feet. The Professor slowly lowered his arms and began to glare. Adele Delacruse, his lover, leaped forward and began to babble something.
"Beat it, ladyface," he snapped stomping over to the cart and throwing off the covering, revealing a gleaming contraption of manifold variegated knobs and levers. "Behold! the true power of this fully operational Time Machine!"
"Don't do it, sweetheart!" wailed Delacruse. "You're tearing us apart!"
The Professor paid no heed, instead working various parts with Igor's help before leaping into the hollow belly of the machine and bellowing, "ACES HIGH!"
It seems that whole world exploded. Every particle and every wave turned upward and inside. Melodies of colours and touches of smells flow through the warped space. After years, or maybe seconds, everything became peaceful again.
"We made it" shouted doctor Willenloss. "And the final proof is presence of William Lane, Michael Connely, and Eva Znanetzky among us!". Silence followed his words, as everyone was shocked beyond understanding.
Day 2 begins! (once more)
Time to midday:
Time to end of day 2:
List of living players
1. Edse, Michael Connely
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. BSmith, Eva Znanetzky
5. Chaotix
6. Brickfaced
7. Ishmael
8. NinjaCow, William Lane
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14. Robbiecon
15. Ironside
Dead players
Xenoneb, Martha Burghes. Policewoman. Allegiance: town
Nightbringer, Ann Pferd. Role-scanner. Allegiance: town
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 21:14
BSmith - Edse - Ninjacow - report!
Edse is the one guaranteed to be town by his death at the hands of the Communists, I believe.
Semantic loophole my butt. :laugh4:
Anyway, John Blake is a handsome fellow, who went somewhere tonight.
I am a peeping-tom of sorts. I can see things about them, or people who visit them.
Montmorency
09-06-2012, 21:35
Chaotix went somewhere, eh?
Are you a tracker, then? Or a watcher as well?
Chaotix went somewhere the night you tracked/watched him, and you were killed.
Chaotix, what are you? We can take this slow, if you like: there are 48 hours left again.
One more thing:
Some abilities can be used limited number of times. If someone used such ability during day 2 and/or night 2, this is 'rewinded'. In other words, this use doesn't count toward total number of uses allowed
Holy crap. That's a powerful ability. I didn't expect you could do it during the daytime.
This changes a lot and we now have enough people alive.
Also, I am coming under fire for more than just ATPG's reasoning, so I am gonna clear the air there. I don't mind being out-debated by him too much, but I'm not gonna let BSmith misconstrue his own results into my lynch.
As John Blake, I am Doctor Willenloss' bodyguard. This gives me the ability to protect people. I would say 'doctor' but that would be needlessly confusing. There are also some circumstances where my protection might not work. I do not know these circumstances.
Since I am a bodyguard, it probably stands to reason I would have some sort of chiseled, attractive features that would make BSmith drool. On N1 (which has not been rewinded and is now last night if I am correct) I protected Askthepizzaguy. Tonight, I would have protected Brickfaced if we had not gone back in time. Neither of them were/would have been attacked (I am notified of that as well in my results).
This is mostly why I was/am suspicious of ATPG, because multiple protecting roles would create a broken town. There was also the fact that there were definitely inconsistencies in his attack on me and it all amounted to a gut feeling that screamed at me "ATPG is mafia". Now I have slept on it, and I'm not so sure anymore, it may just be usual stubborn ATPG. However, I don't trust him to protect the doctor (I had planned to do it myself before we rewinded time, and I plan to do it tonight provided I survive), and the only player I get a larger scum feeling from at the moment is possibly Diana Abnoba.
Keep in mind the doctor's sons and love interest are perfect roles for a communist betrayer. I would wager if there are two communists then one is a generic townsperson and the second has a personal relationship to the doctor.
There is also definitely some kind of serial killer, because BSmith's rewinded killing doesn't correspond with a communist mentality. Furthermore, he is narrowed down to Handsome and Male. Thus I am in this group, apparently. I don't know how I can convince you I'm innocent besides the role reveal. Igor, with a name like that is probably the doctor's illegitimate, hunchback son so there is no way he is the killer. Beyond that we need to find the other handsome males.
Which makes BSmith an obvious target of the SK, since he is apparently a good judge of mens' attractiveness. I also wager we have a male 'peeping tom' as well, but until we get a profile on another killer, not as useful. In order to find the serial killer, I may have to compromise and protect BSmith tonight, and trust ATPG to not betray the doctor with his poisoned lipstick or something.
If you let me live today, I'll do that. If Monty dies you will know to go after ATPG then, since I won't be responsible for keeping him safe. And let's be honest, I am a dead man walking anyway. If I can help BSmith get one more investigation before the serial killer gets him again, I'll do it.
NinjaCow64
09-06-2012, 22:55
I'm sorry Vote: Chaotix but I just can't trust you. You've been screaming scum for ages now. If you thought that it would be overpowered that there were more than one protection roles, why didn't you speak up earlier? This seems like a despereate attempt to save your scummy arse. But it ain't gonna work. Not on my watch.
Anyway, I'll stick with my previous roleclaim. I'm a roleblocker. If there's a role that needs blocking, just tell me and it will be done.
I am forever at your service,
William Lane
Sorry for my semi-inactivity for a while there. To keep it succinct, I am Adam Steiner, the FBI agent (read: role-scanner). I seem to recall that Nightbringer had a rather similar role, which lends some credence to the notion that both Chaotix and ATPG are doctor-type roles (although it still does seem a bit OP. *shrugs*)
I'm not entirely sold on the Chaotix lynch, especially now that he's claimed, so I'll vote vote: Daveshack to see if somebody else wants to join the mass-reveal party.
Well I'm Fred and I can provide protection, so someone is lying.
Since BSmith saw him and the doctor seems to trust Pizza, I'll vote: Chaotix.
I'm sorry Vote: Chaotix but I just can't trust you. You've been screaming scum for ages now. If you thought that it would be overpowered that there were more than one protection roles, why didn't you speak up earlier? This seems like a despereate attempt to save your scummy arse. But it ain't gonna work. Not on my watch.
Anyway, I'll stick with my previous roleclaim. I'm a roleblocker. If there's a role that needs blocking, just tell me and it will be done.
I am forever at your service,
William Lane
Well I'm Fred and I can provide protection, so someone is lying.
Since BSmith saw him and the doctor seems to trust Pizza, I'll vote: Chaotix.
Check this out. With Brickfaced and Diana's claims, combined with Nightbringer's dead role description:
2 Protectors (Arjos, Chaotix)
2 Roleblockers (Brickfaced, NinjaCow)
2 Watchers (Nightbringer, BSmith)
2 Role Scanners (Ishmael, Diana)
Xenoneb - Policewoman, no idea what she does
Askthepizzaguy - Dr. Willenloss' lover - some sort of protection
Montmorency - Dr. Willenloss - Time Machine controller
Things are starting to look a lot more symmetrical now. I would have voted Arjos for trying to counterclaim me, but especially with 2 claimed roleblockers it is looking plausible, especially if there are "circumstances in which it might not work".
I am assuming all of you have that in your role PMs as well. Please confirm that to be true.
What we are dealing with here is limited-strength abilities, and our strengths and weaknesses complement each other.
BTW that is 11 of out 15 roles claimed, or 9 out of 13 living roles. Looks like the mass-claim might work after all.
EDIT: Missed Ishmael.
Uhm... Yes, I have that phrase too...
Unvote; didn't notice the symmetry with all those posts (I had to read a lot and fast lol) and it does make a lot of sense...
We need more claims!
Also, DaveShack has something to do with "silencing roles", or at least he knows it is possible. Fishy, but nothing to go on.
edse, Ironside, and robbiecon have not showed up yet.
Keep in mind, one of these is Igor. Igor is not the serial killer (no way he is attractive if the professor named him that), but I find it highly likely that he wants to kill Prof. Willess (Diana) or vice-versa as part of a win condition.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 01:02
This is mostly why I was/am suspicious of ATPG, because multiple protecting roles would create a broken town.
One thing regarding Arjos-Chaotix-Pizza: Pizza claimed one-use, and under specific circumstances. Could you please tell-all, Pizza?
Chaotix, can you please get all the specific claims together, as well as names or genders where given? That would be illuminating.
Edse is guaranteed innocent, having been killed by Commies. Do you dispute it? He's apparently some kind of investigator, like Bsmith, going by the writeup.
Robbiecon claimed Assistant (vague) and Armor (???). Keep an eye on him.
Igor is my son, but Felix deformed him. He might want Felix dead, I dunno. Again, that this foreknowledge (NOT a scan, from what I gathered) is Diana's only trick - and she hasn't even given her name - I find difficult to believe. I would like to see Diana investigated.
Guys, we have time. let's flesh out your role claims, some of you, and for now put the pressure on Ironside.
Vote: Ironside
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 01:04
Unvote; Vote: Ironside
Okay, regarding my sons: Adolf = Felix and Immanuel = Igor. Why did Adolf change his name, WW2?
Wait. Diana is Igor or Willess? Which one?
Also, been putting together a list since before you said so... time to crack this game. :grin:
Be back in a little while, dinner. Then I'll post findings.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 01:11
I'm Willess, my sons (in their current forms) are Igor & Felix.
I'm Willess, my sons (in their current forms) are Igor & Felix.
You are Willenloss, not Willess.
I have no idea why your son would have a different name than you, but you are Arthur Willenloss and your son is Felix Willess, according to OP. Immanuel/Igor does not have a last name or has not decided to share it.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 01:24
Alright, lot's of name changes to go around.
Your new sig does you no favors.
Ok. Here we go. Red means dead. I have made a couple of assumptions regarding attractiveness, but left most blank.
Note also that Nightbringer has been corrected from Watcher to Role Scanner.
Montmorency – Dr. Willenloss – Time Machine - ??? Male
Diana Abnoba – Prof. Willess or Igor? – ??? - ??? Male
Ishmael – Adam Steiner – Role Scanner - ??? Male
Nightbringer – Ann Pferd – Role Scanner – Unattractive Female
Askthepizzaguy – Adele Delacruse – Protector ??? - Attractive Female
Chaotix – John Blake – Protector – Attractive Male
Arjos – Fred – Protector - ??? Male
BSmith – Eva Znanetsky – Watcher - ??? Female
edse - Michael Connely - Watcher - ??? Male
NinjaCow64 – William Lane – Roleblocker - ??? Male
Brickfaced - Jane - Roleblocker - ??? Female
DaveShack - ??? – Role Silencer ??? - ???
robbiecon - ??? - Armor ??? - ???
Ironside - ??? - ??? - ???
Xenoneb – Martha Burghes – Policewoman - ??? Female
Remaining Roles:
Mike
Mary
Igor
Lady Killer is Attractive Male
Communist A is ??? Male
Communist B, assuming there is one, is unknown
I am pretty sure that our serial killer is only out for the ladies. I could be wrong of course, but the fact that he has only killed women and looked like he was about to sexually assault Eva Znanetsky leads me to that conclusion.
EDIT: There is actually one female among the unknown players. Going to correct that.
Diana Abnoba
09-07-2012, 01:46
To clarify I'm Felix, and I have a name/role scan power. I checked you out Monty the 1st night and and my results came back that you were my father. The 2nd night I scanned Arjos and my result showed that he was Fred. So as of now we only have 2 players that either haven't claimed or haven't been role reveled upon death. Ironside and DaveShack. We need to put pressure on them. Sorry Chaotix for the before vote, to me you are sounding more townie now.
Since this is the 2nd day repeated, shouldn't need to, but, just in case Unvote;
Vote: DaveShack
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 01:51
Another version:
Montmorency – Dr. Willenloss – Time Machine - ??? Male
Diana Abnoba – Prof. Willes/Felix – Name Scanner- ??? Male
Ishmael – Adam Steiner – Role Scanner/FBI Agent - ??? Male
Nightbringer – Ann Pferd – Role Scanner??? – ??? Female
Askthepizzaguy – Adele Delacruse – Protector ??? - ??? Female
Chaotix – John Blake – Protector – Attractive Male
Arjos – Fred – Protector - ??? Male
BSmith – Eva Znanetsky – Watcher - ??? Female
edse - Michael Connely - Investigative role - ??? Male
NinjaCow64 – William Lane – Roleblocker - ??? Male
Brickfaced - Jane - Roleblocker - ??? Female
DaveShack - ??? – Role silencer??? - ??? Male
robbiecon - ??? - Armor ??? - ??? Male
Ironside - ??? - ??? - ??? Male
Xenoneb – Martha Burghes – Policewoman - ??? Female
Remaining Roles:
Mike
Mary
Igor
Unclaimed: Ironside
No Name: Robbie, Dave
Inspecific: Robbie, Dave, Edse
Lady Killer is Attractive Male
How do we know what Nightbringer's role was? She hasn't been revealed.
Check the rewinded Day 3 writeup.
Nightbringer's role info is there. I don't think it has changed.
Also, what is the meaning of the Bold on you and Xenoneb?
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 01:57
Ah, Ok.
Those are definite, full reveals. Unquestionable.
Igor could be assumed unattractive, but I left it out for now.
There is nothing on attractiveness in my PM.
Diana Abnoba
09-07-2012, 01:57
Nightbringer's role was reveled 2nd day/night, he was killed 1st night. If pattern hold it seems that 1 day/night phase after you die Jarema revels your role.
I think on the last "living players" list Jarema posted edse is the Mike character.
edit- yeah you guys just said this
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 02:00
I think on the last "living players" list Jarema posted edse is the Mike character.
Oh yeah, we have it. He just hasn't given out a specific role claim.
Keep in mind that, confusingly enough, Mike the lab assistant and Michael Connely are two different characters.
Diana Abnoba
09-07-2012, 02:05
Oh yes, I see now (very confusing).
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 02:09
One more thing: all my lab assistants share an individual Time Travel power, which I possess as well. I would ask that my assistants never use it without public vetting, for reasons that should be transparent to them.
Oh, another thing I would like to know:
Who has Arjos been protecting, and with what level of success?
If I know this, I can check to see if there are any quirks that determine what makes each of us successful or unsuccessful. For instance, so far, I have been protected only females who are presumably attractive (Adele/ATPG and Jane/Brickfaced), and Jarema was very clear to say I was successful even though they were not attacked.
If I had to guess, my protections work for only Females or only Attractives, or perhaps Female AND Attractive or Female OR Attractive. Or on the chance they are Unattractive in contrast with my intuition, Female or Unnattractive, you get the idea.
Then Arjos' limits are the opposite to mine.
Other possibilities are:
-Townspeople vs. Lab workers
-Works always except for special kill methods (this seems overpowered to me since there are two of us)
One more thing: all my lab assistants share an individual Time Travel power, which I possess as well. I would ask that my assistants never use it without public vetting, for reasons that should be transparent to them.
Monty, this begs a question - do you have a secondary ability in addition to Time Travel?
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 02:20
At the least, you two should attempt to protect each other tonight.
One thing: you protected Pizza N2? We didn't know he was Adele at that point... Similarly for Brick/Jane.
Revealed Night Actions: Chaotix (brickfaced, ATPG), Diana (Montmorency, Arjos), BSmith (???, Chaotix)
Edse, Dave, Iron, Robbie, Arjos, Ninja, Ishmael, and BSmith: Please provide claims, clarifications, and/or actions for N1-2
Ninja was alive N1 - when only one kill went through. If he blocked someone here...\
Monty, this begs a question - do you have a secondary ability in addition to Time Travel?
I have two TT abilities. You saw one. The second is one shared by my assistants. I believe you'll see it soon, unless there's been a double-cross along the line.
ATPG was N1, Brickfaced was N2.
Correct that I didn't know who they were until after they revealed in-thread. It is just an interesting coincidence.
I protected them respectively because they were high-profile on those days and I thought they might be attacked.
I failed to get an order in on time on N1, so my only watching was Chaotix on N2(a). I assume we can perform actions on different people tonight, N2(b).
Ironside
09-07-2012, 08:14
One more thing: all my lab assistants share an individual Time Travel power, which I possess as well. I would ask that my assistants never use it without public vetting, for reasons that should be transparent to them.
Fine then, even if I'm not finding it particulary powerful. Useful in some situations I suppose.
I'm Mary, lab assistant and I'm not having any powers outside the one Monty is refering to.
Fine then, even if I'm not finding it particulary powerful. Useful in some situations I suppose.
I'm Mary, lab assistant and I'm not having any powers outside the one Monty is refering to.
Okay, that is strangely suspicious, considering every other person has claimed an ability, and one aside from the Time Travel if they happen to be lab assistants. But we are still missing two assistants, so I'd wait for them before starting a massive lynchwagon on you.
NinjaCow64
09-07-2012, 08:49
The duality seems plausable. I have no idea who are the evil communists, so I am going to Unvote; robbiecon until we hear from the other lab assistants. His claim is vauge and the last time we had a silent robbiecon things went very badly for the town.
I was about to write this twice last night but decided to hold on it until Diana spoke.
*writes down what he knows*
Scratch that.
I'll let the last definite claims come in first.
I also find Ironside's claim suspicious, unless someone else is paired with him?
Lynching Ironside still seems like a decent idea to me though, since the role looks suspicious as Jarema said everyone would have an ability of some sort, and I figure that the widespread time machine ability wouldn't count under this.
Even if Ironside is innocent, it eliminates the suspicion we have and removes a townie that is less useful to us in comparison to others.
The vote is subject to change, but yet again: Vote: Ironside.
I'm still quite suspicious of Choatix, but I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt for now.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 14:12
Choatix isn't playing, of course. Neither is Chatoix.
The more rarely-seen Chaotix also wears a Zorro mask and cowboy hat, but sports the mirror-universe evil-beard.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 14:25
Some disgustingly suspicious posts over the past few hours.
You know, the three unassigned Names are all assistants. I revealed that power for a reason, and Ironside has not passed the test. How many votes on him, presently?
Host comment: professor Willess name is Felix. There is no Adolf in a game, but maybe I used this name somewhere (just a mistake if it happened) - in my notes professor Willess is just professor Willes
Chaotix claims he doesn't want to start a runaway lynchwagon on Ironside, even though at the time of saying such, there was no sign of such a thing happening. Waiting until everyone reveals isn't feasible this round so the reservation Chaotix gives doesn't sit right with me and just sounds like some attempt to delay/divert the lynch.
But then again, I may just be reading too far into it.
Ironside
09-07-2012, 14:47
Some disgustingly suspicious posts over the past few hours.
You know, the three unassigned Names are all assistants. I revealed that power for a reason, and Ironside has not passed the test. How many votes on him, presently?
The names for the assistants are only first name in the starting post for some reason. I suppose Jarema kept the same theme in the given roles. Appearently I'm also too tired to read the original post correctly:
Yes I can jump forward in time, yes I know it would mess up things if more than 1 uses it at the same time.
One question:
I did not wrote how voting should be done, so it should be done as 'normal'.
Do I understand correctly that bolding someones name (Like: I see Jarema suspicious) is not voting for this person?
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 16:23
Yes I can jump forward in time, yes I know it would mess up things if more than 1 uses it at the same time.
Unvote; Vote: Robbiecon
Alright, that is correct. Now those two need to announce.
robbiecon: Whatis your name, and what is an Armor?
DaveShack: Claim a role. You can only be an assistant, at this stage.
One question:
I did not wrote how voting should be done, so it should be done as 'normal'.
Do I understand correctly that bolding someones name (Like: I see Jarema suspicious) is not voting for this person?
Yes, I believe you have that correctly.
At least for me, the only time I ever vote is with Vote: before it.
Ok, so I will be counting votes that way, and ignore simply bolded names
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 19:17
unvote, vote: DaveShack
I don't see the case but at the same time, I trust the people making the push for it.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 19:18
Wait. Robbie or Dave, Mont?
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 19:53
We want to lynch the weakest link today.
Robbie at least half-claimed, and I'd very much like to know what an Armor does.
Either way, if everyone thus far has been truthful with at least their names, then there's a 50% chance that Igor will die. My gut says that, of my sons, Igor is more likely to go nuts or whatever. :shrug:
By the way, please explain the conditions of your protection?
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 19:53
Oh I see you asked a specific question Monty-
Essentially, I throw myself in front of your body and take the death instead. Since I've no other use and you've got a time machine, and you've been kind enough to reveal so I don't have to guess... perfect.
Obviously single use, because I can only die once. Unless, say, someone has a time machine. Why I'm so eager to die for love.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 19:54
Hivemind, Monty.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 19:55
So you're a bodyguard? Or do you die even if there is no attack?
Unvote; Vote: Daveshack
Hivemind?
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 20:10
I would only die if, say, you were attacked.
Otherwise I'm diving in front of a knife or bullet that doesn't exist, and would be fine.
It's single use in that when I die, I can't do it again. But I can fail to protect you every night no problem.
Hivemind is when we post at exactly the same time on the same topic, unprompted.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 20:59
Still if we have multiple protection roles, I'd recommend covering Monty.
It occurs to me, the obvious counter to all of this is a communist roleblocker.
Assume I or someone else will be roleblocked/murdered. Double-up protection or consider it nonexistent.
Mid-day tally:
Daveshack: Ishmael, Diana Abnoba, Brickfaced, ATPG
Robbiecon: Ninjacow, Montmorency, BSmith
Could someone check it for me?
ANyway, half of the day have passed
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 21:13
We have one more day to hear from these guys. The go-to ATM is to lynch Daveshack.
Orders for all:
DaveShack: Claim. Include name.
robbiecon: Elaborate on your claim. Include name.
Askthepizzaguy: Protect me.
DiAnaAbnoba: Scan Ironside
edse : Role and sex, sir.
Ishmael: Scan Chaotix
Chaotix: Protect Arjos
Arjos: Protect Chaotix
BSmith: Watch Brickfaced.
ninjaCow: Block Brickfaced.
Brickfaced: Stay put.
It feels good to be the Operator.
As far as I can see, nobody has yet claimed the same ability as I have (the duplication theory) so I keep that a secret to not help someone making up a role.
I targeted Diana last night and as you can see from the write-up she is indeed Willess.
Sex: Miss Michael Connely :yes:
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 21:44
Michael is a woman's name in the 1950s?
Are you sure you aren't what Diana, Ishmael, BSmith, Xenon, or Nightbringer are? I assume Night & Ishmael could be role-paired, but the other three seem to stand alone. Just claim.
At the least, claim by the end of the round. Daveshack will be dead, and Robbie has already claimed to be something called "Armor". Your preliminary Night Order is to scan Ironside.
NinjaCow64:
DiAnaAbnoba: Scan Ironside.
Montmorency: Why won't Diana's name go through?
Michael Connely decided to spy professor Willess. Michel's intuition does not full him about his intended target. Professor doesn't sit at his house, but he rather visited someone else. Unfortunately, before Michael could see anything more, he was shoot down. The killer departed into the night, saying silently: 'For the People'.
I'm a tracker and can confirm that Diana visited Arjos.
robbiecon
09-07-2012, 22:01
An armor is a night time unkillable.
To add to my previous claim, I am not only your assistant, but I am your son Igor. Take from it what you will. I can also confirm that I am able to use the time machine myself.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 22:03
I don't believe your protection orders are optimal. You're trying to cover too many squares with too many chess pieces. We can be defeated by a fork.
Assume a roleblocker, Monty. If so, then no one is actually protected right now. You must double-up if you wish to spare one of them.
Alternatively, we could just decide on our own whether or not we double-up, which makes planning the assault on our defenses more difficult.
What say you?
Diana Abnoba
09-07-2012, 22:04
@ Monty
Maybe because you have a capital A where a lower cased a should be. :yes:
Will scan Ironside tonight as ordered. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 22:04
An armor is a night time unkillable.
To add to my previous claim, I am not only your assistant, but I am your son Igor. Take from it what you will. I can also confirm that I am able to use the time machine myself.
Not sure I trust this claim at all.
Igor could have gone commie, can use the time machine to benefit scum, and he's nighttime unkillable claim means he's not going to be murdered even though he's the next most powerful role besides Willenloss. Why, because he's scum and they won't murder themselves. Derp.
This guy is the greater risk, if he's scum. I got nothing on DaveShack but suspicions.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 22:07
Also not getting why we have several protective roles, a reviver role more powerful than any I've ever seen, and a bulletproof role that can do the same stuff as the reviver role.
Mafia has absolutely nothing to combat all that with if it's all true. It cannot be true.
Robbiecon is your scumbag, Monty. Has to be.
Unvote, vote: Robbiecon
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 22:16
Assume a roleblocker, Monty. If so, then no one is actually protected right now. You must double-up if you wish to spare one of them.
I'm having Arjos and Chaotix attempt to form a chain. Isn't that what you're advocating? Just protect me for tonight btw, that's all we'll need...
I'm a tracker and can confirm that Diana visited Arjos.
Cool, but why did you refer to yourself with "Miss"? You are the double to BSmith)-Watcher. A powerful duo. Who did you track N1? No one?
Maybe because you have a capital A where a lower cased a should be.
I tried twice, but the site changes it...
This guy is the greater risk, if he's scum. I got nothing on DaveShack but suspicions.
ORDER CHANGE:
BSmith: Watch Robbie.
edse: Track Robbie.
NinjaCow64: Block ironside.
Diana Abnoba
09-07-2012, 22:17
I agree with Pizza, this role seems to overpowered to me. Can't be killed at night, sounds like BS to me. Good cover, made up role for mafia though.
Unvote; Vote: Robbiecon
We can lynch DaveShack the next round, especially if he doesn't come back and claim.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 22:18
Ok. go ahead and lynch Robbie.
Another Change:
edse: Track Dave
BSmith: Watch Dave
Diana Abnoba
09-07-2012, 22:24
Monty, do you still want me to scan Ironside tonight, or I can scan DaveShack instead? If my notes are right, I think DaveShack is the only one that hasn't claimed or been scanned yet. At least we can get his name/role even if he doesn't want to tell us.
Cool, but why did you refer to yourself with "Miss"?
Miss Michael Connely :yes:
I thought there were no doubts about Michael being a male's name. :shame:
I will Track Dave Montmorency
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 22:27
There's only one left: Mike.
It could be useful in showing that someone else has lied about their name, of course, but it's unlikely.
Very well. We can always give ironside the treatment tomorrow.
robbiecon
09-07-2012, 22:28
Vote: robbiecon, it was I who was the only killer night one. Watch out for those who were silent day one, and you might find your commies.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 22:38
Vote: robbiecon, it was I who was the only killer night one. Watch out for those who were silent day one, and you might find your commies.
Baboom.
High-five everyone.
robbiecon
09-07-2012, 22:40
Why throw in the towel? Well I was dead already, and I might as well give the town a little help. But yeah, I probably could have claimed Mike, but the votes were rolling in anyway.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 22:44
Actually, Dave was in the lead.
Vote: robbiecon, it was I who was the only killer night one. Watch out for those who were silent day one, and you might find your commies.
So you were the SK! I knew your limp and drool were all affectation. :wink:
In my last major Operator role, I wielded an SK to my ends. Perhaps we could spare this one and use him to strike against the scum at night?
Perhaps my son could even be redeemed.
Diana Abnoba
09-07-2012, 22:45
There's only one left: Mike.
It could be useful in showing that someone else has lied about their name, of course, but it's unlikely.
Very well. We can always give ironside the treatment tomorrow.
Okay then I will scan DaveShack tonight. :bow:
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 22:47
Either way, if everyone thus far has been truthful with at least their names, then there's a 50% chance that Igor will die. My gut says that, of my sons, Igor is more likely to go nuts or whatever.
Immanuel: The Prodigal Hunchback
Can't he kill Ironside or something?
robbiecon
09-07-2012, 22:55
I would be willing to kill on your behalf father, if you can save me from this fate today.
robbiecon
09-07-2012, 22:56
Unvote
Vote: DaveShack
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 22:59
Actually, Dave was in the lead.
So you were the SK! I knew your limp and drool were all affectation. :wink:
In my last major Operator role, I wielded an SK to my ends. Perhaps we could spare this one and use him to strike against the scum at night?
Perhaps my son could even be redeemed.
As much as you may wish it, SK are anti town and in a lose-lose situation where they will be killed by the town, will work against town.
SK gotta die, Monty. They don't get redeemed, didn't Andres teach you that?
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 23:04
As much as you may wish it, SK are anti town and in a lose-lose situation where they will be killed by the town, will work against town.
But they can be useful.
The one whose body I appropriated as a weapon of the town did turn on me upon realizing that he was the only obstacle to official victory. When he did it, I anticipated and crushed him like the bug he was.
If he kills Ironside, he gets a few days. If he doesn't, he gets lynched. Why not?
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 23:06
He could kill an additional townie instead. You don't win chess games by playing moves assuming your opponent will play moves that are also in your favor.
Simply put, you're being a dreamer in a situation where pragmatism rules and is the rule.
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 23:10
Simply put, you're being a dreamer in a situation where pragmatism rules and is the rule.
That SK killed a couple of the scum.
IIRC, you spent that game proselytizing the end-times for Town.
But you are set. Fine. Six lynches ought to be enough for two scum at this stage, even if you happen to be one of them.
:wink:
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2012, 23:13
You're right about one thing, there's no need when we have the time and the lynches and the suspects narrowed down.
The risk you're thinking about taking is unnecessary. The people town decides should die will be slain by town. Allowing a SK to "maybe" do us a solid, maybe if we were in a bind. I don't see us in a bind.
Kill Scum A, removes murder 1.
Lynch Scum B, removes a scum from team B. Much better than lynch town A and allow SK to kill town B.
robbiecon
09-07-2012, 23:23
Lynch scum B, he uses time machine to rewind the day yet again ;)
Montmorency
09-07-2012, 23:31
I'm afraid it's not that simple.
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