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Please lynch Monty.
vote: Monty. Captain's orders.
NinjaCow64
09-30-2012, 13:33
Arr, Pizza is a bitter playar tan' ta oot 'imsalf an' dahe twoeh. Any argamants ta tha' contra id starrparrd.
OCC: Guys, seriously. If this was a noob at Mafia we were talking about, I wouldn't be headdesking right now. But we're not and I am. Classic townie silliness.
Arr, Pizza is a bitter playar tan' ta oot 'imsalf an' dahe twoeh. Any argamants ta tha' contra id starrparrd.
OCC: Guys, seriously. If this was a noob at Mafia we were talking about, I wouldn't be headdesking right now. But we're not and I am. Classic townie silliness.
Honestly, I don't think either Pizza or Monty are very likely to be scum. However, it's pretty apparent that one of the two is going to be lynched, and I think that of the two ATPG appears a tad more scummy. If a random third party gets enough votes, I'll happily switch on to them (unless said third party is me. Seriously, don't do that).
Montmorency
09-30-2012, 13:48
You know, Zack, there is absolutely no reason for us to be at odds.
You want to stay on top of the hill and ride out the game in the Captaincy while eliminating the threats to Town. That's fine.
Pizza likely wants something similar for himself.
What was I doing last night? Successfully protecting. What was Pizza doing last night? Dreaming of all the gold he might possibly accumulate. Even now, it is sheer avarice that drives him,
The starving man doesn't take the pig to market. Whose survival do you think is most conducive to your ends, here?
P.S. If you'd rather I didn't protect certain individuals, it would be a simple thing to emphasize.
I don't like either of the ATPG or Monty lynches. I'll go with what appears to be the only viable alternative:
Vote: El Barto
Who also happens to, entirely coincidentally, disapprove of a mutiny in my favor. :creep:
johnhughthom
09-30-2012, 13:52
I always approve of lynching Big Trev.
Vote: El Barto
Whose survival do you think is most conducive to your ends, here?
:laugh4: It certainly isn't the one who said this to me in private:
My activities have nothing to do with you, it seems. We'll just keep clear of each other.
Montmorency
09-30-2012, 13:58
I don't really understand why you took offence to that. It's pretty much the same statement, just without Pizza as a factor.
Montmorency
09-30-2012, 14:01
Oh, I see: I apologize, Sir, for implying that your jurisdiction aboard this ship is not absolute.
Well, I interpreted that as meaning "get out and stay out of my way". And the answer is not to be increasingly condescending.
Since I have no clue what is going on, and am currently busy, and since "En Garde" is a effeminate French cry for a pirate, I'll Vote: TinCow
I see both sides of the coin today arrrr
But as i do that i wish to vote: el barto to remove some pressure.
Unvote; Vote: Montmorency
No townie should go to such extremes, both publicly and privately, to save his own skin...
Montmorency
09-30-2012, 17:49
What an easily avoidable outcome.
My mishandling of the situation has caused significant private turmoil.
Even if the vote can be turned, I'm afraid I have to plead No Contest at this point for 'personal' reasons.
Unvote;
No townie should go to such extremes, both publicly and privately, to save his own skin...
What does the privately bit refer to? And why shouldn't a townie do everything he/she can to save themselves?
Yeah, that was a weird thing to say, Arjos.
It means, he begged wherever he could, at the expenses of others...
You might call it "clinging on to life", the rest of the universe calls it "untrustworthy scumbag" ^^
Can't leave you for a moment.
Are you really lynching Monty even though he was in a successful protection group on Tincow last night?
The killer was acting alone so who wasn't involved in a group last night?
What was the reason behind the horsemen's failed action? Did any of you fail to send in orders or couldn't you agree on a target?
a completely inoffensive name
09-30-2012, 19:53
What was the reason behind the horsemen's failed action? Did any of you fail to send in orders or couldn't you agree on a target?
Already explained this in my post.
Askthepizzaguy
09-30-2012, 19:57
Monty should be lynched for his lies. Then I'll be at peace.
I don't care wither or not he's Spanish. I ain't a bleedin' Spaniard either, and I'm neither a coward. I haven't been beggin' fer me life, just beggin fer justice over a broken contract.
If you don't think I'd care about some fool lyin' to my face, when I'm a pirate, and the only justice is killin' folks, then you're off your noodles.
alrite
I dont think ATPG is scum as i feel he does this all the time +he might be f good use to catch them scurvy spaniards
unvote: El Barto
Vote: Montomery
Kaiser Friedrich III
09-30-2012, 20:20
Wow... Didnn't read the thread for a day and like 5 pages to read.
I'll vote:zack because I want to be captain
Askthepizzaguy
09-30-2012, 20:27
Can't leave you for a moment.
Are you really lynching Monty even though he was in a successful protection group on Tincow last night?
The killer was acting alone so who wasn't involved in a group last night?
What was the reason behind the horsemen's failed action? Did any of you fail to send in orders or couldn't you agree on a target?
Once again, I aint sayin Monty's Spanish. Just that we should make all liars walk the plank. We don't need his kind.
Next, on a more serious note:
The Spanish will be lookin' to recruit folks. Outright killin' them, maybe they'll do later on. But I been on more than one o these voyages. They'll be scannin' and recruitin' right about now.
And givin' oneself an alibi by purposefully bein' part of a group that protects someone, in the writeup, is easy enough. It's only the most basic Spanish strategy, lad.
I'd be willin' to wager the fool who attacked Tincow was told by someone to attack Tincow, by the same folks defendin Tincow, so that the rest of the group would be seen, in the writeup, doin' somethin.
On the one hand, sendin' one man to do an attack and sendin' a few more to do a defense, that is one way of ensurin' that nobody is up to any funny business.
On the other hand, the maker of this fine ship, Admiral Hankerchief, once told me that, as a host of a sailin' vessel, he's got to be sure that there's a fair way out of stuff like that.
I wouldn't be surprised if'in the Spanish could send someone else in a person's place, to give that person an alibi.
This is all just conjecture, but the bottom line is, you shouldn't begin with the premise that someone who is ostensibly in the writeup defendin' someone either was really there, or that he's not also guilty.
Given that Tincow and Monty had some foul dealings yesterday, it makes sense that Monty would have been behind the failed attack on Tincow.
And since he wanted me to defend Tincow, it also makes sense that he was behind the successful defense of Tincow.
Probably part of an alibi-creatin' scheme. A fair idea, but it should be warned, not a bulletproof or foolproof one. And also an utter waste of time. Eventually the Spanish will have enough number to have someone infiltratin' every group. And then, when glorious leader Monty dictates our course of action, the Spanish will do to you what I did to Monty's defenses in the Time Warp story.
When the Spanish know what are defenses are, they aren't defenses o'tall.
Forget everyone else, Kaiser Friedrich III is by far the best candidate for the lynch. :stare:
Askthepizzaguy
09-30-2012, 20:31
Forget everyone else, Kaiser Friedrich III is by far the best candidate for the lynch. :stare:
If you'll permit me to speak out of turn-
I dunno captain, his Quixotic charge at you in circumstances like these makes for an amusing sideshow, does it not? You could pertend this be a medieval court and he can become yer jester.
Vote: NinjaCow64
11 Montmorency: ATPG, Xenoneb, Diana Abnoba, El Barto, Buddhafish, issaikhaan, NinjaCow64, Choxorn, BSmith, Arjos, Makrell
5 El Barto: God Emperor, autolycus, Memnon, TinCow, johnhughtom
4 ATPG: Andres, Chaotix, Ishmael, Double A
2 NinjaCow64: Visorslash, edse
1 TinCow: Jolt
1 Zack: Kaiser Friedrich III
11 No Votea completely inoffensive name, DaveShack, Ironside, JoanK, Kagemusha, Lyra, Montmorency, Thermal, Tiaexz, topsecret, Zaccino
I wan' da booty. Gimme mah gold. So I'll vote: Montmorency, because dead people are already dead.
Askthepizzaguy
09-30-2012, 20:59
Also if ye really needed to identify someone as being somewhere, have em steal from someone who is told to defend his gold. He'd get outed in the writeup and identified, unlike the other scheme.
That, by the way, would also make for an incredibly boring voyage, so I don't recommend it lads.
a completely inoffensive name
09-30-2012, 21:06
Vote: El Barto
Can't leave you for a moment.
Are you really lynching Monty even though he was in a successful protection group on Tincow last night?
The killer was acting alone so who wasn't involved in a group last night?
What was the reason behind the horsemen's failed action? Did any of you fail to send in orders or couldn't you agree on a target?
I'm not saying he's guilty, but being involved in a successful protection group certainly doesn't making him innocent:
Guardacosta Lieutenant (2)
The Guardacosta Lieutenant, working in pairs, may kill any one target at night. In addition, a Lieutenant acting alone may offer a Letter of Marque to any one target at night. Should that person be susceptible to Letters of Marque, he immediately joins the crew as a Guardacosta Convert (below). Should he not be susceptible, the Guardacosta agent who offered the Letter of Marque has a chance of being discovered (percentages vary from player to player, power roles have a better chance of discovering who offered Letters of Marque to them). If only one Guardacosta Lieutenant remains and there are no Converts, the Lieutenant may kill on his own. The Spanish pride themselves on being better at subtlety than their British counterparts, and as such will be able to hide flawlessly in protection groups.
Monty should be lynched for his lies. Then I'll be at peace.
I don't care wither or not he's Spanish. I ain't a bleedin' Spaniard either, and I'm neither a coward. I haven't been beggin' fer me life, just beggin fer justice over a broken contract.
If you don't think I'd care about some fool lyin' to my face, when I'm a pirate, and the only justice is killin' folks, then you're off your noodles.
I don't have a problem with this, but you don't try to waste the lynch to get revenge on someone for swindling you. You wait till the night, and kill him then instead.
The lynch is for catching Spaniards. Everyone knows that.
You take your vote off Monty, and I'll take my vote off of you.
El Barto
10-01-2012, 02:33
I'll Vote: El Barto today, although I'm not really sure why, I guess I'm just in it for the gold.
Vote: El Barto
Who could possibly be throwing about money to cause such unfounded votes?
I don't like either of the ATPG or Monty lynches. I'll go with what appears to be the only viable alternative:
Vote: El Barto
Who also happens to, entirely coincidentally, disapprove of a mutiny in my favor. :creep:
You, who are promoting a mutiny and also suddenly became friends overnight with Montmorency. Maybe ye two discovered ye spoke a common Iberic language, didn't ye?
I press for Montmorency and also to stop yer mutiny, and ye start buying votes. Real pirates take things, not buy them, that be the essence of piracy. Avast, ye landlubbing Hispanics!
I always approve of lynching Big Trev.
Vote: El Barto
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Winston. Now that Winston be retired, thou pickest me as thy new mortal enemy. Puny bald man.
btw not my fault ye perished twice in the last game I hosted.
We be da people!
a completely inoffensive name
10-01-2012, 03:39
I voted for you El Barto because idk who else to vote for and you get gold for voting.
El Barto
10-01-2012, 03:42
If ye be voting for gold, then just vote someone wiv no chances of lynching, instead of joining tha bandwagong. Thou art suspicious, person with a completely inoffensive name.
GeneralHankerchief
10-01-2012, 04:00
Voting closed.
El Barto
10-01-2012, 04:02
Voting closed.
And on midnight, what a nice touch. :)
GeneralHankerchief
10-01-2012, 04:50
Day 2
It did not take long for the accusations to get rather heated aboard the Presence.
However, the surprising thing was that the loudest accusations in question were not regarding murder attempts or even direct thievery of treasure. No, these accusations were regarding a bit more murky violation of the Pirates' Code: a possible reneging of a deal that that had already been in place.
The sailor Askthepizzaguy was yelling rather loudly and without pause that there was a deal in place with Montmorency to provide protection in exchange for gold, and now Monty was being stingy with his gold. Or possibly it was his promised protection, after about an hour of the yelling where ATPG somehow never needed to pause for breath the sailors started to get the details confused. Some of them who were better able to make out the argument decided that ATPG was making a lot of sound of fury that signified nothing and voted him and there was a cadre of sailors who washed their hands of the entire fight and put votes on El Barto. However, volume seemed to be winning the day.
Eventually, Captain Zaccino and his officers emerged from their cabins to finalize the vote. Zaccino, when he read the tally, paused.
"All right, Monty, do ye deny that ye've been a hardass over the past day and have the actions o' too many sailors under yer control, even though I should rightfully have this duty, bein' the fairly and justly elected Captain?"
Montmorency was impassive. "Tell me, what precisely is my crime? Am I being accused of attempted murder or thievery, or conspiring with the Spanish?"
"Yer crime be doin' too much too quickly. It be unseemly."
Monty's eyebrow raised - the one over his eyepatch, which caused a weird sort of effect. "And my sentence for that is apparently to walk the plank? For such bastions of freedom and democracy as we style ourselves, this seems a rather harsh and arbitrary sort of punishment for free folk such as we."
"Well, technically speakin', this is a democratic vote done be previously set-upon guidelines, so that line of argument not be holdin' water. But stop stalliln' and delayin' yer fate. Get on that plank!" Zaccino pointed emphatically at said plank, and his last sentence quickly turned into a chant among the sailors. Montmorency, defeated, could do nothing else but serve his sentence, waving a little salute to the crowd before disappearing overboard.
Between Pizzaguy's daylong protestations and Monty's final argument, the sailors were more than happy to go below deck to get a night of quiet.
Day 2 tally:
Montmorency: 12 (ATPG, Xeno, Diana, El Barto, Buddhafish, khaan, NinjaCow, Choxorn, BSmith, Arjos, Makrell, JoanK) :skull:
El Barto: 6 (TinCow, God Emperor, autolycus, Memnon, JHT, ACIN)
Askthepizzaguy: 4 (Andres, Chaotix, Ishmael, Double A)
NinjaCow64: 2 (Visorslash, edse)
TinCow: 1 (Jolt)
NinjaCow64: 1 (Kaiser Friedrich III)
Abstained: 2 (Zaccino, Monty)
Didn't vote: 7 (DaveShack, Ironside, Kagemusha, Lyra, Thermal, Tiaexz, topsecret)
OOC: It is now Night 2. Please send in your orders. Night 2 will conclude Tuesday, October 2nd, at Noon US Eastern Time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Attacked: TinCow (n1)
Walked the plank:
Montmorency
Souls aboard: 34
a completely inoffensive name
Andres
Arjos
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
BSmith
Buddhafish
Chaotix
Choxorn
DaveShack
Diana Abnoba
Double A
edse
El Barto
God Emperor
Ironside
Ishmael
issaikhaan
JoanK
johnhughthom
Jolt
Kagemusha
Kaiser Friedrich III
Lyra
Makrell
Memnon
NinjaCow64
Thermal
Tiaexz
TinCow
topsecret
Visorslash
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 08:24
Yarr. Thar be the fate of all liars.
Now I hold no grudge fer Monty's mates. Justice has been served, and I bear no more hostility to anyone.
If that be good enough, I consider the matter closed. If it not, I'm not protectin' myself so come and get your vengeance. I lived to see him die, and that's all I asked fer.
LazyMcCrow
10-01-2012, 10:18
garr. Can't believe i missed this.
garr. Can't believe i missed this.
Sign up as a reserve?
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 12:10
garr. Can't believe i missed this.
Just remember it from now on, subscribe to the thread, and don't ever miss a vote again. Simple simple.
What's done is done. How you act from here onward is your responsibility. The past can't be replayed.
Edit: Wow really, he wasn't even playing? :laugh4: Oh I get a kick out of things like this. I shant remove the egg from my face. Let the people have a good belly laugh.
Edit: Wow really, he wasn't even playing? :laugh4:
Scummy, scummier, scummiest!
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 12:37
Scummy, scummier, scummiest!
Who? Who is scummy, TELL ME!!! :curtain: Point me in their direction. I'll murder-lize them. With mah Spanish blade.
I call her Betsy.
Monty should be lynched for his lies. Then I'll be at peace.
I don't care wither or not he's Spanish. I ain't a bleedin' Spaniard either, and I'm neither a coward. I haven't been beggin' fer me life, just beggin fer justice over a broken contract.
If you don't think I'd care about some fool lyin' to my face, when I'm a pirate, and the only justice is killin' folks, then you're off your noodles.
And since when is stealin', lyin' and beggin' fer ye life a crime here, Saint Pizza?
In yer desire to be Holier than the Pope, a pirate only guilty of being a pirate died. And not at yer hands. No, instead of takin' matters into yer own hands, the pirate way, which is with 4 against 1, sneaking up on your target at night, you took the cowardly route: let the Capt'n do yer dirty work.
You remind me of those other types wantin' to be Holy and even organising Inquisitions for it and all.
How do they call those types...
Yes, Spaniards!
With mah Spanish blade.
A CONFESSION !!!
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 12:53
Then put yer blade in your hand, and find three people already annoyed by my talking, and come and kill me already.
I'm not defended by anyone I am in contact with. You think I'm scum, or just want me gone? Kill me tonight and end whatever adventure there is to be had for me here on this ship.
And I doubt you'll shed a single tear if I come back able seaman, townie. After all, you showed me how it's supposed to be done. That's almost like a victory.
Sorry for being so inactive, life is eeeeevil!
~Lyra
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 13:00
Andres and his twin eye-patches
I've sailed on plenty of voyages, mate. I'm not afraid to sit one out, and I'm not afraid of death.
This is your big chance, champ. Show me how good you are at finding Spaniards. I promise you, your kill will succeed.
I ain't no bleedin coward and I won't beg for me life. Come at me, matey.
Anyone else would be lynched for that post alone.
Two reasons:
@Andres (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=17742) and his twin eye-patches
I've sailed on plenty of voyages, mate. I'm not afraid to sit one out, and I'm not afraid of death.
This is your big chance, champ. Show me how good you are at finding Spaniards. I promise you, your kill will succeed.
I ain't no bleedin coward and I won't beg for me life. Come at me, matey.
1) "I'm not afraid to die" is something often said by scum;
2) more importantly: "Show me how good you are at finding Spaniards": this implies that I'm not a Spaniard and reads as a symptom of the Perfect Information Syndrome. Only a Spaniard would know for sure that I'm not a Spaniard.
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 13:13
Talk talk talk.
If you don't put your sword in my gullet tonight, I'll chalk it up to those twin eye patches of yers.
You couldn't find a Spaniard if you were still a fetus gestatin' inside of a lady from Seville.
NinjaCow64
10-01-2012, 13:19
Anyone else would be lynched for that post alone.
Two reasons:
1) "I'm not afraid to die" is something often said by scum;
2) more importantly: "Show me how good you are at finding Spaniards": this implies that I'm not a Spaniard and reads as a symptom of the Perfect Information Syndrome. Only a Spaniard would know for sure that I'm not a Spaniard.
Andres, I ricken yarr noeh Pizza fer a lerng tirm, yer been a forrrum admoonistater an' all. Erryun noos tha' thar Pizzaguy does tiss all o' thar tiirme. Rum Bottle o' Suspicion: Andres ad yer shald noo Pizza bittarr tan thart.
You couldn't find a Spaniard if you were still a fetus gestatin' inside of a lady from Seville.
As if all pregnant ladies in Seville are Spanish.
Did I ever tell ye guys my great story about the Dutch wench?
Well, first of all, she was Dutch. She was also a wench. And she complimented me on what a fantastic story-teller I am.
johnhughthom
10-01-2012, 13:22
Ah, the old Dutch wench tale. Classic Belgian storytelling.
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 13:24
Do ye need help findin' yer way back to yer cabin, you blind old man? :laugh4:
I'll help you find me. I'll be the one singing a jaunty little tune that goes like this:
There once was a blaggard by the name o' Andres
He considered himself a pirate brave and true
But his eyes were both poked out by his parrot
And now he's got eye-patches, two
He's strong and he's brave and he's a fan of the ladies
He fancies himself Captain, it's true
But the ship knows better than to be led by the blind
And so he's still stuck being crew
There once was a sailor who called himself Andres
And he liked hunting Spaniards, it's true
So he puffed and puffed and he cried out
for the Pirateguy until he turned blue
And someday he might even win a single fight
And maybe that day will come soon
But if he thinks that I'm Spanish well then
I guess I'll have to laugh like a loon
An-dres
An-dres
Come and collect me head, if that's what it takes
I ain't scared of the blind, oh it's true.
Who could possibly be throwing about money to cause such unfounded votes?
You, who are promoting a mutiny and also suddenly became friends overnight with Montmorency. Maybe ye two discovered ye spoke a common Iberic language, didn't ye?
I press for Montmorency and also to stop yer mutiny, and ye start buying votes. Real pirates take things, not buy them, that be the essence of piracy. Avast, ye landlubbing Hispanics!
I have not paid a single coin to anyone for anything. Due to the lack of wisdom from this crew, I'm reduced to scrubbing decks and splicing mainsails and such like the rest of you. I don't waste coin, and it should have been obvious that any coin I was spending to pay for votes on you would have been a total waste. As for my 'friendship' with Monty, this is the total extent of my relationship with Monty throughout his relatively short life:
Would you like pro bono protection for tonight? Speak up if you are already protected - someone else might need the help.
If I am protected, I am not aware of it. I won't refuse protection, as long as it is free.
You were hit either by the First Mate or an SK/vig. I hope ye be not scum, or else my good work yadda yadda.
Say nothing of this in-thread.
We were, indeed, bosom buddies. I am weeping into my grog now that he is gone. However shall I go on without him? ~:mecry:
Askthepizzaguy
10-01-2012, 13:51
I recommend drinking more ale. That will ease the burden.
Ale: It's good for what ales ya.
We were, indeed, bosom buddies. I am weeping into my grog now that he is gone. However shall I go on without him? ~:mecry:
Now now, ye ol' pirate. There's nothing a bottle of rum can't fix. And if a bottle can't fix it, have a barrel :barrel:
GeneralHankerchief
10-01-2012, 16:43
LazyMcCrow, you're more than welcome to put yourself down as a replacement. There are a few spots that would open up in a round or two if activity doesn't change. :yes:
El Barto
10-01-2012, 20:26
I have not paid a single coin to anyone for anything. Due to the lack of wisdom from this crew, I'm reduced to scrubbing decks and splicing mainsails and such like the rest of you. I don't waste coin, and it should have been obvious that any coin I was spending to pay for votes on you would have been a total waste. As for my 'friendship' with Monty, this is the total extent of my relationship with Monty throughout his relatively short life:
Splicing mainsails and not mainbraces, that be the mark of a false pirate. Why so condescending towards the rest of us? We be equals at the moment, metallic bovine person.
We were, indeed, bosom buddies. I am weeping into my grog now that he is gone. However shall I go on without him? ~:mecry:
Moar grog, that be the answer.
Splicing mainsails and not mainbraces, that be the mark of a false pirate. Why so condescending towards the rest of us? We be equals at the moment, metallic bovine person.
As I believe I have mentioned before, I am a Pirate Lawyer, not one of you slack-jawed cannon-fodder yokels. You go and splice whatever seems best to you. I'll sit over here and argue with the Captain and count my coin.
El Barto
10-01-2012, 20:57
Ye be sea-lawyering and counting yer coin, while men of action be getting coins in ye plural.
Montmorency
10-01-2012, 20:59
"You're a crook, Captain Zack"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdeSh3vLvYI
"You're a crook, Captain Zack"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdeSh3vLvYI
Why did we lynch this guy again?
Monty is my new favorite person this week.
El Barto
10-01-2012, 21:02
Heh, I thought of Michael Bluth's Captain Hook even before opening the spoiler. :D
Double A
10-01-2012, 22:00
Why did we lynch this guy again?
Monty is my new favorite person this week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OemNp6hgX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTWxef31ps
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2012, 17:01
Night 2 has ended, no more orders will be accepted.
Processing now.
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2012, 18:19
Night 2
Makrell was awoken in the middle of the night when his body registered that it was no longer receiving oxygen. It took him a further second to realize the cause: he couldn't see, and something was blocking his face. It was clear that someone was trying to strangle him with a pillow.
Despite his situation, Makrell was still cognizant enough to recognize that screaming would be of absolutely no help. The pillow would muffle any noise he made, and it would only serve to further deplete his supply of oxygen. So instead, Makrell started groping wildly around, searching for anything that might be of assistance in his fight for life.
After a few seconds, he connected with flesh! Makrell was greeted with a fresh surge of oxygen and renewed sight as the attacker had dropped his pillow. Makrell was able to glimpse someone staggering back, clutching his neck, gasping for air. Apparently Makrell had managed to punch him in the Adam's Apple. Now fully awake, grabbed his knife and pointed it in the direction of his attacker, Xenoneb, but Xeno declined to further pursue the matter and instead retreated out of sight.
The feel of steel pressed against Arjos's neck was never a pleasant experience. Nevertheless, that was the position that Arjos found himself in. Taken by surprise above deck, he had run afoul of somebody with a cutlass who was clearly out to get him. Without an opportunity to grab a weapon of his own, Arjos was certain that his life had mere seconds remaining.
However, Arjos had accomplished much over the past few years. While before he was a hopeless swordsman, once his life had gotten purpose, he had become better. Arjos was always a wily sort but now he had some physical tools to match his natural charm and mental ability. If Arjos could get his attacker to drop his guard, even if only for a second, Arjos could take his own sword out and then have a serious chance of escaping.
"Say, uh... what's that over there?" he said, his eyes flashing to a point behind his attacker.
The attacker merely rolled his eyes. "Pathetic," he said. "Like that actually be makin' me turn around. That has got to be the worst attempt at a distraction I've ever-"
But the attacker had lowered his guard in that second while he was expressing his contempt, and that second was all Arjos needed. In a flash, Arjos's own cutlass was out and in another second, his attacker's sword was clattering on the ground. Now Arjos had the upper hand, having disarmed his opponent.
"Unlike you, I not be needin' a distraction to regain the advantage," the attacker said, apparently unperturbed by this reversal of fate. "I'm a pirate, mate. I fight dirty." And without another word, before Arjos could react, the attacker punched him square in the face, hard. Arjos could feel his nose break and reflexively put up his hands to cover his face. A second punch to the gut sent Arjos sprawling to the ground, gasping for breath.
"Right, enough with the swordplay," said the attacker, picking Arjos up by the hair. "We do this the old-fashioned way." And dragging Arjos to the edge of the ship, still by the hair, he flung him overboard.
issaikhaan was pacing the deck of the Presence, muttering to himself about gods appearing in the form of stannic bovines. Most of the crew had pretty much left khaan alone since the first day's Captain election, seeing as how a previously mild-mannered sailor had become basically a zealous acolyte (to a fellow pirate, no less!) with absolutely no warning. It almost appeared as if he was speaking in tongues.
This isolation made khaan the perfect target at night, and he was snuck up on by a man who clearly had the intent to kill. khaan managed to get his sword out and parry the blows, and the fight appeared to be pretty even, but those odds weren't good enough for khaan's liking. Mustering all of his vocal capacity, he called out to the heavens.
"O RIGHTEOUS ONE, SEND YOUR HUMBLE ACOLYTE SOME PROTECTION ON THIS NIGHT!!!"
khaan's attacker hissed in frustration. Somebody would hear khaan's prayer, all right, but it wouldn't be any deity. He had most likely yelled loud enough to wake up half the entire ship. The attacker kept up the fight for another few seconds, and then broke it off, retreating. He had decided to cut his losses. This was evidently a good decision, as three sailors had bounded up from below decks, ready to help stop the attack.
Xenoneb had mostly regained his breath after the failed attempt on Makrell earlier on in the night. He had gone above deck for some fresher air, staring out at the sea and letting the calmness right himself. He became so zoned-out that he didn't hear the four pairs of rather loud footsteps approach him.
The sound of four cutlasses being drawn finally alerted Xeno that something was amiss back on the ship. Xeno turned, his eyes widening in surprise at the sight of four people so obviously trying to kill him. He had enough time to draw his own sword, but it was 4-against-1 and Xeno was simply getting overpowered.
Remembering what issaikhaan had pulled earlier in the night, he tried to scream for help, but only managed a weak yell. Apparently his throat still hadn't entirely recovered from the punch it had received. The attempt left him gasping for air once again, an opening which his attackers mercilessly exploited. Seconds later, Xenoneb was alone, bleeding out on the deck of the Presence, and his attackers had already returned.
The First Mate of the Presence, Choxorn, was in the fight of his life. He was a good swordsman, racking up his share of kills in the raid on the Treasure Fleet, and had also received some extra security by being First Mate, but it was abundantly clear that he was flat-out overmatched.
Choxorn's attacker had not used the element of surprise, instead walking right up to him and initiating the sword fight while Choxorn was making his nightly rounds. Frankly, he was a little bit shocked by the brazenness of it all, but this shock quickly wore off in favor of the terrifying realization that he was not nearly as skilled with a blade as his opponent. If Choxorn had been less of a fighter than he was, or if he wasn't in his capacity as First Mate, this duel would have already been over.
He needed to do something - anything - to stop this withering assault. Thinking quickly, he decided to disrupt the rhythm of the fight by stepping forward instead of back. Finally, this was something which the attacker had not anticipated, and made a small gasp in surprise. Choxorn used this advantage to push, hard, and sent the attacker sprawling to the ground.
Closing in quickly, Choxorn decided he was going to just make a quick kill and be done with the night. Choxorn knew his tactics and knew that, with the route he had chosen to finish it off, the attacker had roughly a 1-in-4 chance of escaping. 75% wasn't great, but it was better than what he had given himself at the start of the fight.
He moved in to stab the attacker in the gut. But, against the odds, right before he thrust down, he felt a poke in the neck. The attacker had made exactly the right move to beat the situation, piercing Choxorn's throat with his regained, longer blade. Choxorn gasped in surprise, dropping his own weapon. The attacker rose, grinning. The last thing Choxorn saw was the man's pearly white teeth - extremely unusual for a pirate - as he slit his throat.
That morning, Zaccino, looking rather pale from the death of his first mate, called the crew to a meeting.
"All right, mateys," he said, "It appears that we be havin' a bigger problem than simple thievery on our hands. There be five separate attempts at murder last night. Five! And worse, three o' them succeeded. Even worse, one of them was our former First Mate!" Everyone gasped at the news.
"I cannot be havin' this aboard the ship," Zaccino continued, "And I especially cannot abide by the fact that someone's killin' me officers! We need to vote, again, and this time I be hopin' you condemn somebody for a worse crime than not followin' through with promises o' gold. You have until sunset, by which time whoever has the most votes will walk the plank, and I'll name a new First Mate. Get to it!"
And so Zaccino retreated back into his cabin, clearly to drink off the shock of Choxorn dying, leaving Quartermaster BSmith in charge of the vote for the time being.
OOC: It is now Day 3. Voting will last until Wednesday, October 3rd, at 23:00 US Eastern Time.
Feedback PMs incoming.
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Attacked: TinCow (n1), Makrell (n2), issaikhaan (n2)
Killed: Arjos (n2), Xenoneb (n2), Choxorn (n2)
Walked the plank:
Montmorency (d2)
Souls aboard: 31
a completely inoffensive name
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
BSmith
Buddhafish
Chaotix
DaveShack
Diana Abnoba
Double A
edse
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God Emperor
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Ishmael
issaikhaan
JoanK
johnhughthom
Jolt
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So, Captain... mind explaining why exactly you tried to have 'khaan killed?
Montmorency
10-02-2012, 18:44
Xenon lone attack on Makrell - was Tincow right about the inactive scum? If so, Xenon's death is a valuable one. Also note that a partner could have been converting.
Choxorn (?) kills Arjos.
Choxorn (?) attacks khaan but fails - is khaan the Godfather?
Four Horsemen kill Xenon.
An SK or Vig kills Choxorn, beating the 50% odds. This is a very interesting kill. What did the killer see to be gained, to take such a risk?
a completely inoffensive name
10-02-2012, 18:57
Horray, 4 Horsemen got their first kill!
GeneralHankerchief
10-02-2012, 18:57
All feedback PMs are out, please let me know if there are any issues.
A Reminder: Wills exist! You lost 50 gold when you die, but you can specify who it goes to. PM me if you want to set your will. :yes:
El Barto
10-02-2012, 18:57
choxorn appeareth to be killed by a Spaniard fop. notice yon comment about teeth?
So, Captain... mind explaining why exactly you tried to have 'khaan killed?
This be odd, as the skinflint of a Captain said he wanted issaikhaan dead but was unwilling to pay for it.
So, Captain... mind explaining why exactly you tried to have 'khaan killed?
That wasn't me. I applaud your current streak of two nights in a row mistakenly assuming I ordered my first mate to kill you or your fanatical devotee.
El Barto
10-02-2012, 19:03
That *was* ye, you asked us to kill issaikhaan on Night One, we didn't have enough people, then again on Night Two you agreed to join us but later repented because we wanted to be paid.
Montmorency
10-02-2012, 19:08
choxorn appeareth to be killed by a Spaniard fop. notice yon comment about teeth?
Mafia need two to kill, so that can't be. Anyway, I thought it was black people that night-gleaming teeth are associated with. :grin:
Arjos was almost certainly killed by the kill-role First Mate - if Khaan really survived a visit alone from Choxorn, we ought to lynch him, and we ought to be on the lookout for a second independent killer.
autolycus
10-02-2012, 19:11
Vote: JoanK for bandpirate-shipping. Khaan seemed to have protection, so it is possible Choxorn was indeed his attacker, although I agree that the behavior of Arjos' killer seems more typical for our ilk.
That wasn't me. I applaud your current streak of two nights in a row mistakenly assuming I ordered my first mate to kill you or your fanatical devotee.
Interesting that you seem to harbor such a vendetta against me. First, this is not the second night of me assuming you ordered the first mate to kill someone. You seem to forget that I actually stated (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142535-Pirate-Ship-Mafia-II-IN-PLAY&p=2053486319#post2053486319) that I thought the first kill was an attempt to frame you, not a hit by you. Second, I never said you ordered your first mate to attack 'khaan, only that you organized the attack. In this case, you attempted to hire townies to kill him for you.
Surely my light-hearted and self-serving comments about mutiny are not enough to warrant outright murder of my friends. Why so villainous?
It looks like Xenoneb might have been trying to steal. Choxorn was obviously killed by Spaniards. I think there's just a random lone townie attacking TinCow R1, then khaan R2, perhaps trying to show their loyalty to me or something. I know who killed Arjos and Xenoneb.
That *was* ye, you asked us to kill issaikhaan on Night One, we didn't have enough people, then again on Night Two you agreed to join us but later repented because we wanted to be paid.
Do you really want to be going there? I can tell everyone about all of your private interactions.
Interesting that you seem to harbor such a vendetta against me. First, this is not the second night of me assuming you ordered the first mate to kill someone. You seem to forget that I actually stated (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142535-Pirate-Ship-Mafia-II-IN-PLAY&p=2053486319#post2053486319) that I thought the first kill was an attempt to frame you, not a hit by you. Second, I never said you ordered your first mate to attack 'khaan, only that you organized the attack. In this case, you attempted to hire townies to kill him for you.
Surely my light-hearted and self-serving comments about mutiny are not enough to warrant outright murder of my friends. Why so villainous?
My mistake, I must have confused it with the countless others who assumed I sent the First Mate after you. And yes, El Barto asked if I wanted his group to kill anyone; as it was Night 1 and there were no leads or anything, I figured killing my most vocal opponent would not be a bad thing. Turns out El Barto and his group wanted my nightly income as payment and me to be his group's fourth member, which I declined. I gave no orders to anyone to kill khaan last night.
I gave no orders to anyone to kill khaan last night.
That very directly contradicts what I have been told.
What have you been told?
That you hired townies to kill 'khaan last night. If you did not, as you claim, why would anyone think that you had?
Why 24? Thanks anyway.
Two of the three succeeded kills were performed by a single attacker and the third by the Four Horsemen. Doesn't this mean that we most likely only have one Spanish Lieutenant left as he then is able to kill alone?
Montmorency
10-02-2012, 19:23
Choxorn was obviously killed by Spaniards.
The Guardacosta Lieutenant, working in pairs, may kill any one target at night. In addition, a Lieutenant acting alone may offer a Letter of Marque to any one target at night. Should that person be susceptible to Letters of Marque, he immediately joins the crew as a Guardacosta Convert (below). Should he not be susceptible, the Guardacosta agent who offered the Letter of Marque has a chance of being discovered (percentages vary from player to player, power roles have a better chance of discovering who offered Letters of Marque to them). If only one Guardacosta Lieutenant remains and there are no Converts, the Lieutenant may kill on his own. The Spanish pride themselves on being better at subtlety than their British counterparts, and as such will be able to hide flawlessly in protection groups.
Choxorn's attacker
It can not be. I would have to have been scum.
That you hired townies to kill 'khaan last night. If you did not, as you claim, why would anyone think that you had?
Oh? Who told you, or are you merely referring to El Barto's in thread remarks? The same person that so violently opposed you yesterday?
It can not be. I would have to have been scum.
One of the others who died last night could have been scum.
I believe that Choxorn was killed by the Frenchman, or his analagous counterpart in this game. The sword skill, "brazen" attack, and white teeth seems consistent with the style of that role from the first game. The Frenchman could also kill solo.
More interesting than the killer though is the target. The Frenchman's goal in the first game was to become Captain. Killing off officers, perhaps in the hopes of becoming one himself, is a good way to go about that. However, unless I missed something, Choxorn was not IDed as the First Mate publicly. How did the killer know who he was to target him?
He and I were both identified in public.
Oh? Who told you, or are you merely referring to El Barto's in thread remarks? The same person that so violently opposed you yesterday?
I see no reason to name my source at the moment, since El Barto has already confirmed the situation anyway. Regardless, I was informed of your actions last night, long before El Barto's public comments. That's why 'khaan was protected, and why I accused you of trying to have him killed before El Barto even posted.
How did the killer know who he was to target him?
D1 public write-up? XD
I know who killed Arjos and Xenoneb.
So you got me killed? ^^
D1 public write-up? XD
-1 to my smug quota.
That reinforces my belief that it was the Frenchman or whatever his current incarnation is. The mafia wouldn't have taken the risk of an attack like that, even if they could kill solo. There's far less reward in it than there is for the Frenchman.
I believe that Choxorn was killed by the Frenchman, or his analagous counterpart in this game. The sword skill, "brazen" attack, and white teeth seems consistent with the style of that role from the first game. The Frenchman could also kill solo.
More interesting than the killer though is the target. The Frenchman's goal in the first game was to become Captain. Killing off officers, perhaps in the hopes of becoming one himself, is a good way to go about that. However, unless I missed something, Choxorn was not IDed as the First Mate publicly. How did the killer know who he was to target him?
I can think of one metallic bovine who showed (and still shows) a great desire to become Captain, and spoke in French when he was attacked Night 1.
Montmorency
10-02-2012, 19:35
One of the others who died last night could have been scum.
I've never seen such a condition take effect on the same night. Even so, why would the scum expect one of their own to die, and one member particularly, using the other to make a 50%-chance-of-success attack on the First Mate? It's too convoluted to make sense.
I like the Frenchman explanation.
It's a good thing I wrote you out of my will, Arjos? :wink:
I can think of one metallic bovine who showed (and still shows) a great desire to become Captain, and spoke in French when he was attacked Night 1.
Me speaking in French was clearly GH referencing my old role from the previous game. Hence the "old habits" bit.
It's a good thing I wrote you out of my will, Arjos? :wink:
Since to try to safe yourself, you gave away names, mine among them. You most likely killed me indirectly ^^
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2012, 19:48
Me speaking in French was clearly GH referencing my old role from the previous game. Hence the "old habits" bit.
Nice.
That was a bit dastardly of GH, since it could be used to frame you. But I appreciate the reference.
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2012, 19:49
Now then.
Andres, I didn't see a single person come and kill me last night.
There's not a single person on this crew that can come forward and truthfully state that I asked for protection.
So, does this mean that you had a change of heart, or that you couldn't find yer way out of your cabin, insert eyepatch joke here.
Xeno stealing doesn't make sense. I doubt it would have been classified as an attack, but I suppose it could have been. If he were stealing why would he try to suffocate his target?
As TinCow mentions, it does look like issaikhaan was protected, and that is the reason for the failed attack. Although it is interesting that there appears to only be one attacker here as well.
I tend to agree that the kill of Choxorn was an SK, but not being familiar with the first game, I cannot draw upon that setup for much insight. It also shows that there is someone out there that can kill solo, and who is up for taking big risks.
So in the end it seems that we had 3 solo attack attempts, one of which was a success, one that was protected and the last one unknown why it failed.
If the Spanish lieutenants are part of this mix, and if we haven’t already killed one of them (Monty is the only option) then that means that one of them didn’t show up for the kill last night.
This could be through inactivity, or some other game mechanic. Like being in the Brig. ~;)
Ishmael happened to be in the brig last night, so right about now I think he has some explaining to do.
Askthepizzaguy
10-02-2012, 20:12
That very directly contradicts what I have been told.
Well I might have assumed the Captain would go after folks that didn't support him in the election, myself.
That's why I've been shamelessly begging to be in his service at night. Unfortunately, the price for quality work is more than our Captain can afford with his pittance of a salary.
I say we vote the Captain a higher salary! Only then can he afford a group of pirates that are worthy of his gold.
A solo killer, though... that casts doubt that it must have been the Captain. It may have been coincidental that someone else tried to go after khaan. And this is what I think may have happened.
As TinCow mentions, it does look like issaikhaan was protected, and that is the reason for the failed attack. Although it is interesting that there appears to only be one attacker here as well.
I am inclined to believe that the attack on me on N1 and the attack on 'khaan on N2 were both solo townies that would have failed regardless of the protection. That seems consistent with the fighting being a stalemate, with the protection only showing up after the fact to chase the person off. I think an attempt that would have been successful without protection would have showed the protection group actually saving the target's life.
A solo killer, though... that casts doubt that it must have been the Captain. It may have been coincidental that someone else tried to go after khaan. And this is what I think may have happened.
Perhaps, but our Captain has already specifically denied hiring anyone to kill 'khaan. That's quite different from hiring someone, and then changing their mind and refusing to pay for it.
Xeno stealing doesn't make sense. I doubt it would have been classified as an attack, but I suppose it could have been. If he were stealing why would he try to suffocate his target?
Then why was he named? The target was certainly alert enough to defend himself.
Perhaps, but our Captain has already specifically denied hiring anyone to kill 'khaan. That's quite different from hiring someone, and then changing their mind and refusing to pay for it.
A group asked me what to do Night 1. I said "kill khaan," the rationale behind the order already having been explained by me earlier in the thread. They did not come through.
The same group said they were still willing to take orders Night 2, and we were working on the terms. I did not specify a specific action I wished them to take, so it follows that they assumed the target was still khaan. The deal fell through, and the group performed actions of their own accord.
Frankly, even if I did directly orchestrate the attempted kill on khaan, so what? He was my most vocal opponent - you have no problem with the other kills I orchestrated, and none of those targets were anywhere close to being as clearly opposed to me as khaan.
The Captain has to make tough choices and order kills. What else is new?
A group asked me what to do Night 1. I said "kill khaan," the rationale behind the order already having been explained by me earlier in the thread. They did not come through.
The same group said they were still willing to take orders Night 2, and we were working on the terms. I did not specify a specific action I wished them to take, so it follows that they assumed the target was still khaan. The deal fell through, and the group performed actions of their own accord.
I accept that explanation, though I would be grateful if you refrained from trying to kill me and those who voted for me in the election. At the very least, if you're going to try and have townies kill me, at least have the decency to pay the fellows for it.
This is what you silly pirates get for not electing me. I would never have thought twice about actually paying for the killings I wanted done.
Montmorency
10-02-2012, 20:32
Due to the name reveal, Xenon can indeed only be a thief and therefore a townie.
If Khaan was attacked by a misguided hitman, it must however be assumed that Mafia were converting. There's no room for anything other than inactivity. Don't underestimate the scum...
But I'd like to hear more on the blocked-Ishmael angle. That's the only alternative I see - blocked scum.
I accept that explanation, though I would be grateful if you refrained from trying to kill me and those who voted for me in the election.
So they can help you mutiny?
So they can help you mutiny?
Why are you even worried about a mutiny? Treat people right and no vote will ever have a chance of succeeding. I haven't exactly exerted a tremendous amount of effort to unseat you either, so it's odd that you view me as such a threat.
Besides, if I really wanted to unseat you, I would have accepted your offer to be First Mate. It's far easier for your officers to dispose of you than it is to be ousted by a mutiny vote.
Why are you even worried about a mutiny? Treat people right and no vote will ever have a chance of succeeding. I haven't exactly exerted a tremendous amount of effort to unseat you either, so it's odd that you view me as such a threat.
Besides, if I really wanted to unseat you, I would have accepted your offer to be First Mate. It's far easier for your officers to dispose of you than it is to be ousted by a mutiny vote.
I was just teasing you about specifically not targeting anyone who voted to elect you - I assume you mean that as the sole reason, because that's a ridiculous request otherwise. The way you're acting now, I don't plan to kill you.
And I never would have made you my officer, that was just to try and get you to back down. :laugh4:
Now then.
Andres, I didn't see a single person come and kill me last night.
There's not a single person on this crew that can come forward and truthfully state that I asked for protection.
So, does this mean that you had a change of heart, or that you couldn't find yer way out of your cabin, insert eyepatch joke here.
Somebody asked me a favour and I helped him out.
Also, Spaniards don't deserve the honour of being killed by pirates; Spaniards need to walk the plank.
Vote : Askthepizzaguy
Zaccino, this holding grudges against TinCow and his followers can become a distraction from scum hunting. Unless you're doing it on purpose for exactly that reason :inquisitive:
Zaccino, this holding grudges against TinCow and his followers can become a distraction from scum hunting.
Did I miss where I accused TinCow of attacking my right-hand man? I assure you, it was the other way around.
Um. I see a lot of good explanations around here. And the explanation of Xeno trying to steal my gold and purity seem logical.
But if i see correct only 1 of the attacks was made by able seamen(the four horsemen) the rest had to be mafia, captain or SK/vig. I dont really know wo couldve done what.
THe part of Xeno being revealed could just be cause hed be killed later the same night anyway.
1 kill by third party - as people have suggested, it could be the Frenchman or some other killing role. (If it's the Frenchman, TinCow said his VC was to become captain in the first game, it may have held true for this one. In which case the Frenchman could help us, considering they don't want the town dead, only the Captain. Possibilities are there.
2 attempted kill: seems like a lone townie
Xeno kill: Vig group, 'Four Horseman apparently'
Arjos: Seems like a First mate kill (or possibly a third party)
Nevertheless we haven't seen a pairing, which probably means the Spanish are investigating.
THe part of Xeno being revealed could just be cause hed be killed later the same night anyway.
That seems likely to me.
Double A
10-02-2012, 23:27
Looks like we're havin another grogfire get-tagether.
Considerin' tha hygiene, swordplay, and smartassyness, it's tha Frenchy. I dun see it bein anyone else, cause tha Spanish need two buggers ta kill and the British all have broken teeth. Tha failed solo-kill was prolly a Spanish guy or a luckless matey. I got no idea about Xeno, so I'm gonna agree with Makrell, Visor, and everyone else.
El Barto
10-02-2012, 23:43
Oh? Who told you, or are you merely referring to El Barto's in thread remarks? The same person that so violently opposed you yesterday?
A group asked me what to do Night 1. I said "kill khaan," the rationale behind the order already having been explained by me earlier in the thread. They did not come through.
The same group said they were still willing to take orders Night 2, and we were working on the terms. I did not specify a specific action I wished them to take, so it follows that they assumed the target was still khaan. The deal fell through, and the group performed actions of their own accord.
Frankly, even if I did directly orchestrate the attempted kill on khaan, so what? He was my most vocal opponent - you have no problem with the other kills I orchestrated, and none of those targets were anywhere close to being as clearly opposed to me as khaan.
The Captain has to make tough choices and order kills. What else is new?
This be true, we had agreement with ye captain for N1 but couldn't get a fourth and the agreement didn't get finalised for Night Two as the captain was unwilling to pay.
I accept that explanation, though I would be grateful if you refrained from trying to kill me and those who voted for me in the election.So they can help you mutiny?
^This.
Looks like we're havin another grogfire get-tagether.
Considerin' tha hygiene, swordplay, and smartassyness, it's tha Frenchy. I dun see it bein anyone else, cause tha Spanish need two buggers ta kill and the British all have broken teeth. Tha failed solo-kill was prolly a Spanish guy or a luckless matey. I got no idea about Xeno, so I'm gonna agree with Makrell, Visor, and everyone else.
Ye Brits get Yellow teeth, it be scurvy colonials who hae broken teeth.
(If it's the Frenchman, TinCow said his VC was to become captain in the first game, it may have held true for this one. In which case the Frenchman could help us, considering they don't want the town dead, only the Captain. Possibilities are there.
The Frenchman is certainly not mafia, but I would highly discourage anyone from thinking he is a potential town ally. In the first game, while it is true that his victory conditions did not require the deaths of any townies, a Frenchman victory would have resulted in a loss for the entire town. While it is possible that GH has changed the role a bit and that this is no longer true, I don't think there's any way we can safely assume that. For the record, here's the original Frenchman (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?121936-Pirate-Ship-Mafia-Concluded&p=2360373&viewfull=1#post2360373).
Someone has been stealing my gold at night, obviously taking advantage of the fact that I am busy being a Horseman and killing traitors like Xenoneb.
If anyone knows who it is that had the bright idea to steal from the harbingers of the apocalypse, please let me know so I can have a chat with him.
From the rules:
Unlike in the first game, there is only a two-way fight for control of the Presence going on. However, there may be additional threats lurking on board, waiting for their chance to strike...
What exactly does that mean? It sure sounds like "there's only a two-way fight between town and mafia, except there's not."
GeneralHankerchief
10-03-2012, 00:28
In the first game, there were two separate mafia factions: British agents who wanted retribution for the target the pirates hit, and saboteurs from a different pirate crew who wanted the booty for themselves. This game's only mafia team is the Guardacosta.
But that does not necessarily exclude third parties?
Thanks for the quick response!
GeneralHankerchief
10-03-2012, 00:34
Allow me to quote a relevant section of the rules for third parties:
Secret role(s):
Well, you'll just have to wait and see. :evilgrin:
El Barto
10-03-2012, 01:03
So the GM is WIFOMing us?
So the GM is WIFOMing us?
There are always third party roles in these games. It's only a question of what form they take, not whether they are present.
GeneralHankerchief
10-03-2012, 01:13
So the GM is WIFOMing us?
I haven't had the chance to put on my "evil host" hat in a while. Let me enjoy the experience. :laugh4:
El Barto
10-03-2012, 01:16
There are always third party roles in these games. It's only a question of what form they take, not whether they are present.
We coudl have Neutrals which is different from SK. Also, as the GM says…
I haven't had the chance to put on my "evil host" hat in a while. Let me enjoy the experience. :laugh4:
Reminds me of when I hosted the Mars Attacks! mafia and jht's lynch result was 'he *is* mafia'. Nobody caught on to the fact that 'is' meant he was still alive. :yes:
Double A
10-03-2012, 01:30
There was a Mars Attacks! mafia!?
El Barto
10-03-2012, 01:33
Yes (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=378860). Would it kill you to ever post anything related to the game you're playing in, vote: Double A?
Double A
10-03-2012, 01:39
Looks like we're havin another grogfire get-tagether.
Considerin' tha hygiene, swordplay, and smartassyness, it's tha Frenchy. I dun see it bein anyone else, cause tha Spanish need two buggers ta kill and the British all have broken teeth. Tha failed solo-kill was prolly a Spanish guy or a luckless matey. I got no idea about Xeno, so I'm gonna agree with Makrell, Visor, and everyone else.
So I guess this is just my evil twin, Triple A? vote: Tak
GeneralHankerchief
10-03-2012, 01:43
For bookkeeping purposes, Tak = El Barto?
For bookkeeping purposes, Tak = El Barto?
Yep.
NinjaCow64
10-03-2012, 02:30
Arr me hearties, not miny o' ye harrrve vated. Eye sey we vate fer Vote: Ishmael becaurrrse o' thar roleblackin'. Unliss soomun harrrrs arr bittar idear, I thunk hez a garrrd lynch.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 02:36
For bookkeeping purposes, Tak = El Barto?
No, El Barto is El Barto. It's like a secret identity.
Arr me hearties, not miny o' ye harrrve vated. Eye sey we vate fer Vote: Ishmael becaurrrse o' thar roleblackin'. Unliss soomun harrrrs arr bittar idear, I thunk hez a garrrd lynch.
What this be I don't even
Double A
10-03-2012, 02:49
Ninja's been layin too heavy on that fruity rice wine crap he likes.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 03:32
He's WIFOMing here and at Zack Mafia, and posting silly stuff on TWC. He should die in all three games.
NinjaCow64
10-03-2012, 04:24
He's WIFOMing here and at Zack Mafia, and posting silly stuff on TWC. He should die in all three games.
Narr yar scurvy landlubber, yar sharld beah thravar vone thar valwk tharr rudhey garlbel garblge gargle glarg...
:Zzzz: SNORE-SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...SNORE-SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
El Barto
10-03-2012, 04:42
unvote; vote: NinjaCow64.
Vote: Ninjacow64, he be giving the rest of us pirates a bad name, yarrr. At least have some eelocushon, matey.
seireikhaan
10-03-2012, 05:27
The Lord is my shepherd, my guide, my protector. So long as my faith is strong, harm cannot reach me. :bow:
For now, I vote: Diana Abnoba
It is my belief that she was out to improper things last night. I sense darkness about her.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 05:28
Improper things? Such as not killing you?
That you hired townies to kill 'khaan last night. If you did not, as you claim, why would anyone think that you had?
This post bugs me. Hired 'townies'? Sounds like a scumslip...
Vote: TinCow
seireikhaan
10-03-2012, 05:38
Improper things? Such as not killing you?
She could have tried all she desired and seen naught for reward. The light of His truth shields me against the Darkness.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 05:41
This post bugs me. Hired 'townies'? Sounds like a scumslip...
Vote: TinCow
I hadn't noticed that from the mutineerous scum.
She could have tried all she desired and seen naught for reward. The light of His truth shields me against the Darkness.
That soundeth like the Papist creed. :stare:
Meself think voting for Ninjacow is bad, hes just to high on the liquir.
Seeing as the spanish hasnt killeld anyone point at some of them being inactive
therefore i say vote: menmon
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 08:50
Since the Captain / others are not availing themselves of our services, allow me to do some advertisement.
Ahoy mateys.
We owe our allegiance to the ship and her crew, but yes, we are professionals and hiring us costs a little bit of money. Quite affordable, but you know we're not just GIVIN' it away.
Here's the deal: You need protection? Contact Diana Abnoba. We are willin' to protect whomever you wish, for the price we negotiate.
Since group-killing is both unprofitable if it doesn't succeed, and risky, and a bit suspect, we don't wish to be part of that business. However, if the price be right, and ye don't mind acknowledging that ye paid us for the deed, well... we'll think about it. Money talks.
Now then. 5 gold is the baseline price for anything, and that's per person doing the deed. Otherwise yer just wastin' our time.
And now, a special offer: If ye wishes to have the same sort of action night after night, we'd be willin' to offer a group rate. Buy three for the price of two. The third one is on the house!
YARRR!!!
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 08:52
Perhaps, but our Captain has already specifically denied hiring anyone to kill 'khaan. That's quite different from hiring someone, and then changing their mind and refusing to pay for it.
Oh yes, he's hardly a doe-eyed innocent. But evil intentions aside, he mightn't be responsible for that one. After all, he's got enough people to do the deed, therefore if he wanted it done, more folks than one should have shown up.
I must say BSmith, I find it amusing that you saw me as being suspicious enough to warrant internment in the brig (also, I'd always thought a brig was a type of boat, not a part of one. Yay learning!).
In regards to the lack of a Spanish kill, I see two options - one, they're investigating (most likely - it's what I'd be doing in the circumstances), or two, we have an inactive mafioso. Make that three actually, as Monty could technically be scum, although I find that unlikely.
And as for voting, I've got no clue as yet, so I think I'll just random.org it and vote: Double A.
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 09:40
I'm sure when the Spanish have enough members they'll just start killing in droves.
That's why I'm not sure they've started already.
We have a Spanish Captain. Vote: Mutiny and Vote: Visorslash
May I ask how you got to that conclusion? And why Visorslash?
Double A
10-03-2012, 14:00
unvote, vote: Ninjacow
I must say BSmith, I find it amusing that you saw me as being suspicious enough to warrant internment in the brig (also, I'd always thought a brig was a type of boat, not a part of one. Yay learning!).
In regards to the lack of a Spanish kill, I see two options - one, they're investigating (most likely - it's what I'd be doing in the circumstances), or two, we have an inactive mafioso. Make that three actually, as Monty could technically be scum, although I find that unlikely.
And as for voting, I've got no clue as yet, so I think I'll just random.org it and vote: Double A.
I'm honored that the random gods chose me. Again. :bow:
We have a Spanish Captain. Vote: Mutiny and Vote: Visorslash
Gah?
NinjaCow64
10-03-2012, 14:05
We have a Spanish Captain. Vote: Mutiny and Vote: Visorslash
Yarr, how'd yar thunk o' dat Eddy boy? Yer be lookan mighty suspeesos widout an explinotion, arr!
Zaccino is one of the lieutenants and as the captain he can't participate in night actions. The Spanish Special Officer doesn't want to spend the nights killing people so instead they are trying to recruit people. Clear as rum to me.
And why Visorslash?
I took a quick look at the voting for Captain and his vote seemed to be the scummiest one.
Zaccino is one of the lieutenants and as the captain he can't participate in night actions.
That's an interesting theory, but even if it's true why couldn't he participate in night actions? The rules say the Captain can do so:
Captain
The Captain is elected by the crew on Day 1 and will remain Captain unless he is removed by a mutiny. This is a position of extreme power in that the Captain gets a set salary of treasure every turn he is Captain without having to actively do anything. Most importantly, the Captain gets to appoint his two Officers, the First Mate and Quartermaster, who, if loyal, can represent the greatest threat to the enemies of the Presence. The Captain cannot be killed at night but may take part in nighttime activities. The Captain has no vote unless there is a tie (see above), however, activity treasure is still given to him for posting in the day phase.
vote: edse. We can’t be having a mutiny on our hands. Aside from the fact that the captain can do night actions (as TinCow pointed out), there are plenty of other examples where you could logically conclude that the Spaniards are others, like Ishmael being blocked and not showing up for his attack, or the fact that the Spaniards may be working on identifying and recruiting converts in this early stage of the game.
That's an interesting theory, but even if it's true why couldn't he participate in night actions? The rules say the Captain can do so:
Damn, I read that wrong. I thought he couldn't.
Please disregard what I said in my last two posts.
Unvote: Vote: Double A
Double A
10-03-2012, 16:35
First you accuse the captain on no actual basis for being a Spaniard, and then you vote for me with the same lack of reasons. You're winning yourself a very close place to my heart.
unvote, vote: edse
On review, this post strikes me as a bit odd:
Um. I see a lot of good explanations around here. And the explanation of Xeno trying to steal my gold and purity seem logical.
...
THe part of Xeno being revealed could just be cause hed be killed later the same night anyway.
AFAIK, the only way Xeno would have failed at stealing was if Makrell was guarding his treasure. If that was the case, Makrell would certainly have known what happened, yet in this post he doesn't seem sure at all. This doesn't read at all to me like someone who was guarding his treasure and thought that Xeno failed and was exposed because of it. Plus, the write-up seems to pretty clearly state that it was a murder attempt on Makrell, not a theft:
Night 2
Makrell was awoken in the middle of the night when his body registered that it was no longer receiving oxygen. It took him a further second to realize the cause: he couldn't see, and something was blocking his face. It was clear that someone was trying to strangle him with a pillow.
Despite his situation, Makrell was still cognizant enough to recognize that screaming would be of absolutely no help. The pillow would muffle any noise he made, and it would only serve to further deplete his supply of oxygen. So instead, Makrell started groping wildly around, searching for anything that might be of assistance in his fight for life.
After a few seconds, he connected with flesh! Makrell was greeted with a fresh surge of oxygen and renewed sight as the attacker had dropped his pillow. Makrell was able to glimpse someone staggering back, clutching his neck, gasping for air. Apparently Makrell had managed to punch him in the Adam's Apple. Now fully awake, grabbed his knife and pointed it in the direction of his attacker, Xenoneb, but Xeno declined to further pursue the matter and instead retreated out of sight.
...
Xenoneb had mostly regained his breath after the failed attempt on Makrell earlier on in the night. He had gone above deck for some fresher air, staring out at the sea and letting the calmness right himself. He became so zoned-out that he didn't hear the four pairs of rather loud footsteps approach him.
So, Xeno was clearly trying to kill Makrell and failed, probably because he was solo, yet his identity was exposed in the process. There's nothing in the rules that indicates that a failed attack should result in an IDing of the attacker... indeed the rest of the failed attempts clearly show that it doesn't. Yet Xeno was exposed when he attacked Makrell. Why would GH reveal Xeno, just because he got killed the same night? That's some very specific information about what should be a secret night action, and GH isn't the type to just hand out freebies. At the same time, Makrell apparently buys the "stealing treasure" excuse despite the fact that he makes no mention of guarding his treasure and the write-up clearly indicates a kill attempt. This looks to me like Makrell's role was somehow responsible for the IDing of Xeno.
Vote: Makrell
Double A
10-03-2012, 17:50
If people who attack Makrell are revealed, then that wouldn't make him a Spaniard, unless the lieutenant has some really interesting and strange abilities and the mooks don't seem special enough. I also feel like he isn't the Frenchman for the same reasons. That narrows it down to townie or third party. Maybe he's a survivor? Perhaps a stowaway? We're on a ship, after all.
Still, it might just be a thing GH is doing in this game.
If people who attack Makrell are revealed, then that wouldn't make him a Spaniard, unless the lieutenant has some really interesting and strange abilities and the mooks don't seem special enough. I also feel like he isn't the Frenchman for the same reasons. That narrows it down to townie or third party. Maybe he's a survivor? Perhaps a stowaway? We're on a ship, after all.
In the first game, the Frenchman had a special ability to survive the first attack against him when he wasn't protected. So, there's precedent for the Frenchman having a special ability that activates when he gets attacked. I'm not saying that's the most likely scenario, but I wouldn't rule it out. In any case, my theory on third party roles is to nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Double A
10-03-2012, 18:09
Fair enough, but I'm far more suspicious of edse right now. He's acting like a drunk guy lurching around the deck in the middle of a storm.
On review, this post strikes me as a bit odd:
AFAIK, the only way Xeno would have failed at stealing was if Makrell was guarding his treasure. If that was the case, Makrell would certainly have known what happened, yet in this post he doesn't seem sure at all. This doesn't read at all to me like someone who was guarding his treasure and thought that Xeno failed and was exposed because of it. Plus, the write-up seems to pretty clearly state that it was a murder attempt on Makrell, not a theft:
So, Xeno was clearly trying to kill Makrell and failed, probably because he was solo, yet his identity was exposed in the process. There's nothing in the rules that indicates that a failed attack should result in an IDing of the attacker... indeed the rest of the failed attempts clearly show that it doesn't. Yet Xeno was exposed when he attacked Makrell. Why would GH reveal Xeno, just because he got killed the same night? That's some very specific information about what should be a secret night action, and GH isn't the type to just hand out freebies. At the same time, Makrell apparently buys the "stealing treasure" excuse despite the fact that he makes no mention of guarding his treasure and the write-up clearly indicates a kill attempt. This looks to me like Makrell's role was somehow responsible for the IDing of Xeno.
Vote: Makrell
well i dotn know if i have any special abilities regarding lynch surviving, maybe xeno had 50% chance kill ro something.
Regarding the stealing part i dont know how writeups would write a steal. I was not guarding my treasure so i dont really know. Mt pm said i was attacked, but stealing thing is also a form of attack i reckoned. Maybe not though
Zaccino is one of the lieutenants and as the captain he can't participate in night actions.
So in my infinite wisdom, I lobbied hard for a job where I couldn't perform night actions for my scum team?
El Barto
10-03-2012, 19:03
First you accuse the captain on no actual basis for being a Spaniard, and then you vote for me with the same lack of reasons. You're winning yourself a very close place to my heart.
unvote, vote: edse
Fair enough, but I'm far more suspicious of edse right now. He's acting like a drunk guy lurching around the deck in the middle of a storm.
Stop OMGUSing people, ye scurvy cur of a mangy kid with interfering dogs.
So in my infinite wisdom, I lobbied hard for a job where I couldn't perform night actions for my scum team?
Nah, thee be a proper regular skinflint who likes to threaten people aboot their night actions.
Double A
10-03-2012, 19:06
Stop OMGUSing people, ye scurvy cur of a mangy kid with interfering dogs.
Yeah but edse actually looks suspicious.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 19:08
He made a mistake to which he admitted, and he's a TWCer so he's suspicion-inducing by nature.
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 19:16
YARRRR he doesn't even know what he's talkin about. He's spoutin nonsense theories that were instantly debunked.
He's had too much grog. The lad is tryin. Don't blame him fer failin'.
So many suspects... I'm gonna go with vote: Makrell, he sounds suspicious. All that doubting and wandering around...
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 19:24
well i dotn know if i have any special abilities regarding lynch surviving, maybe xeno had 50% chance kill ro something.
Regarding the stealing part i dont know how writeups would write a steal. I was not guarding my treasure so i dont really know. Mt pm said i was attacked, but stealing thing is also a form of attack i reckoned. Maybe not though
Sounds like this lad hasn't read the rules carefully either.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 19:28
Makrell laddie, protection be against attacks, stash-guarding be against theft.
Vote: Makrell
Cuz i don thank edsee's donnit an I be a drop's lost in here game.
~Lyra
Double A
10-03-2012, 20:22
The grammatical skills of the average TWCer have really atrophied.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 20:23
You were below average to start with anyway, AA.
Fair enough, but I'm far more suspicious of edse right now. He's acting like a drunk guy lurching around the deck in the middle of a storm.
And what's wrong with that. Only a Spaniard would have a problem with a pirate being drunk during a storm; there's nothing more amusin than that.
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 20:32
Vote: Andres
Mostly for the gold, and also because OMGUS.
I don't expect him to be lynched, but I also remember the last time he went after me on nonsense reasoning, which was pick yer power. And he was total scum then.
I dont see any real reasoning coming out of him and he's proven himself to me to be the least valuable member of the Spanish-finding team, what with his twin eye patches.
Vote: Andres
Mostly for the gold, and also because OMGUS.
I don't expect him to be lynched, but I also remember the last time he went after me on nonsense reasoning, which was pick yer power. And he was total scum then.
I dont see any real reasoning coming out of him and he's proven himself to me to be the least valuable member of the Spanish-finding team, what with his twin eye patches.
Do I really have to repeat my arguments from the previous round each and every single round again to look like a scum hunting "reasoning" townie?
Your behaviour in the previous round was typical mafia behaviour: signs of perfect information syndrome, "I'm not afraid to die" and pressing to get somebody lynched who was clearly not mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 20:41
I'm over here. Ye were talkin' to the chamber pot again.
Double A
10-03-2012, 20:50
And what's wrong with that. Only a Spaniard would have a problem with a pirate being drunk during a storm; there's nothing more amusin than that.
You've caught me. I'm really the reanimated body of Hernan Cortez and I'm here to steal all your Aztec gold.
It's amusing, sure, but not when he's retching all over you and your mates.
Your behaviour in the previous round was typical mafia behaviour: signs of perfect information syndrome
Please elaborate.
Please elaborate.
There you go. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142535-Pirate-Ship-Mafia-II-IN-PLAY&p=2053486704&viewfull=1#post2053486704)
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 21:13
In short, he's saying when I said to kill me and prove how good he is at finding Spaniards (meaning, not very) he is suggesting that means I KNOW FOR A FACT he's not Spanish himself.
Thus, PIS.
Basically, he's puttin' meaning to my words that aren't there. Maybe he actually sees such a meaning, but that would mean he's cross-eyed as well as blind. I'm not even sure what that means, but it sounds bad.
I recommend he drinks more grog.
That is grasping at straws, Andres. I don't see how that's PIS.
Askthepizzaguy
10-03-2012, 21:40
My offer stands, Andres. You can take yer friends and come kill me if you're so sure.
I'm not gonna be lynched so take care of it yerself, or I'll spend the rest of the voyage callin' ye blind, and a coward to boot.
Either come to yer senses or be done with it and prove to yourself that your instincts were right.
Only when I'm dead might you see the error of yer ways. But I tell you this: If you and your friends kill me, then ye weren't investigating or recruiting that night, then were you?
So maybe it might even help establish that you're not Spanish, lad.
Come at me, matey. I said it before, ye didn't listen. Your options remain the same. Fight or talk.
So many suspects... I'm gonna go with vote: Makrell, he sounds suspicious. All that doubting and wandering around...
I have not been wandering. And me not knowing exactly what was done on me does not make me a spaniard. it makes me something but not spaniard
Vote: Makrell
Cuz i don thank edsee's donnit an I be a drop's lost in here game.
~Lyra
i dont know about Edse, but i havent done it either.
I dont quite know, but ill go with Vote: Andres as Askthepizzaguy is often right imo
In the first game, the Frenchman had a special ability to survive the first attack against him when he wasn't protected. So, there's precedent for the Frenchman having a special ability that activates when he gets attacked. I'm not saying that's the most likely scenario, but I wouldn't rule it out. In any case, my theory on third party roles is to nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
What happens if you are a third party role? Does your viewpoint change?
EDIT: I see you didn't acknowledge the scumslip.... :stare:
El Barto
10-03-2012, 23:03
Andres, you're overreacting. You intrigue me.
What happens if you are a third party role? Does your viewpoint change?
EDIT: I see you didn't acknowledge the scumslip.... :stare:
:quiet: Don't remind him of that, he be trying to lie low.
I have not been wandering. And me not knowing exactly what was done on me does not make me a spaniard. it makes me something but not spaniard
To be honest, I have to vote someone to get the 3 gold. And your vague knowledge of the rules and your apparent ignorance of your own night actions...
Diana Abnoba
10-03-2012, 23:45
Okay looks like we had vig kills that didn't work. Maybe because players didn't put their orders in.
Good help is so hard to find these days. If you want something done right, sometimes to just need to hire a professional. See our ad, we will get the job done right the 1st time, and for a reasonable price. :laugh4: PM me to hire us.:yes: (shameful advertising - sorry had to).
Solo kills, so we have SK type rolls. Two killed solo, I don't think that one SK would have more then 1 kill per night, so we must have 2 SK type of rolls. Maybe one being a Frenchmen type roll, and another neutral or town sided SK. Who knows, it really is too early to tell.
Since it seems to me in the rules that the mafia need to kill in twos, none of the kills are by the mafia yet. They are scanning for new members (if they are smart) or there is an inactive member in that group.
One thing that stood out to me was the fact that Xenoneb was ID with his attack on Makrell. That seems off to me. Could be just GH ID him because he did die in another write up, but I don't think so. What would be the point, especially when we don't get alignment right away upon death. I agree with TinCow, I think he is the best lynch this round. This may be the only way to check this theory out. And it is still very early in the game, so if he flips town, that's bad, but not as bad as if we let a SK keep on killing more townies.
Vote: Makrell
johnhughthom
10-03-2012, 23:46
Vote: Makrell
So lazy.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 23:55
Vote: Makrell
So lazy.
Yeap, you're so lazy you just follow the bandwagon.
unvote, vote: Makrell.
This case against him seems slightly better than the random chance my previous vote was based on.
What happens if you are a third party role? Does your viewpoint change?
No, I just ask rhetorical questions of everyone.
EDIT: I see you didn't acknowledge the scumslip.... :stare:
There's no need; I don't make scumslips.
El Barto
10-03-2012, 23:59
Oh don't you?
Oh don't you?
Ask around. I know it's been awhile since I played a mafia game, but I'm not a n00b.
El Barto
10-04-2012, 00:02
Ask around. I know it's been awhile since I played a mafia game, but I'm not a n00b.
So it was intentional, then.
So it was intentional, then.
Everything I say is intentional. If it wasn't intentional, I wouldn't say it. Whether you interpret what I say to mean I am scum or not is up to you, but I do not "slip."
No, I just ask rhetorical questions of everyone.
There's no need; I don't make scumslips.
Why are you so against third party/neutral roles? I can understand serial killers, but not every third party/neutral is a SK.
You don't make scumslips do you? :laugh4: Everyone does in one way or another.
EDIT: I understand that everything you say is intentional, therefore can't be a slip, but in your intentional wording, you may have made a mistake. No-one can write perfectly as to eliminate all suspicion.
El Barto
10-04-2012, 00:12
Everything I say is intentional. If it wasn't intentional, I wouldn't say it. Whether you interpret what I say to mean I am scum or not is up to you, but I do not "slip."
Now we be getting somewhere.
Why are you so against third party/neutral roles? I can understand serial killers, but not every third party/neutral is a SK.
You don't make scumslips do you? :laugh4: Everyone does in one way or another.
EDIT: I understand that everything you say is intentional, therefore can't be a slip, but in your intentional wording, you may have made a mistake. No-one can write perfectly as to eliminate all suspicion.
Yarr, the pirate communists just want to work with you all!
Seriously though, I don't think I've ever seen a 'true' scum-slip, whereby somebody says something and clearly reveals PIS or an ulterior motive. I do agree that people can sometimes phrase what they say differently if they are scum (e.g. they might be more cautious in their conclusions), but personally I wouldn't go so far as to call that a 'scum-slip.'
https://i.imgur.com/ZbvEI.png
El Barto
10-04-2012, 00:27
Ye must be bananas to post that, Zaccino.
Diana Abnoba
10-04-2012, 00:35
Oh come on El Barto, admit it, it made you laugh didn't it, it made me laugh. :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Kaiser Friedrich III
10-04-2012, 00:43
I would vote makrell, as evidence has been posted that seems pretty legit. However, it has become much to mainstream to vote for that fish, so I shall vote:KaiserFriedrichIII
I would vote makrell, as evidence has been posted that seems pretty legit. However, it has become much to mainstream to vote for that fish, so I shall vote:KaiserFriedrichIII
:inquisitive:
Diana Abnoba
10-04-2012, 00:48
My guess, he doesn't know who to vote for and just wants the gold for the vote. And it is getting late in the round, so he hoping it doesn't start another bandwagon. :shrug:
El Barto
10-04-2012, 01:02
My guess is that you guessed right, Di. btw why did you ignore my stealthalicious pun?
Diana Abnoba
10-04-2012, 01:06
Wasn't that stealthy but it was alicious. :laugh4:
El Barto
10-04-2012, 01:07
We be settling in at manteau harbour shortly.
Buddhafish
10-04-2012, 01:31
In the spirit of bandwagoning, Vote:Makrell. Man you guys post a lot over here.
Diana Abnoba
10-04-2012, 01:37
Buddhafish
Really, I thought it was about average posting. What forum are you from? BTW welcome.
El Barto
10-04-2012, 01:51
In the spirit of bandwagoning, Vote:Makrell. Man you guys post a lot over here.
This fine gentleman of a CFCer ought not to hang so many shades of lamps upon us.
Kaiser Friedrich III
10-04-2012, 01:58
Pretty sure on TWC we don't have this many pages by day 2.
El Barto
10-04-2012, 02:06
Pretty sure on TWC we don't have this many pages by day 2.
Weaklings. But in TWC it's mostly because the playerbase doesn't give a damn.
Edit: we're only on page 16 man, stop complaining. Pizza's holding it in you know.
Double A
10-04-2012, 02:13
I'm riding the wave, just not the wagon.
Montmorency
10-04-2012, 02:20
Games haven't typically been this active since this time a year ago.
Why is Ishmael's block garnering so little attention?
I hope that he will be blocked again tonight, and ask any 3rd-party roles who may have the capacity to refrain from interfering.
El Barto
10-04-2012, 02:21
Games haven't typically been this active since this time a year ago.
Why is Ishmael's block garnering so little attention?
I hope that he will be blocked again tonight, and ask any 3rd-party roles who may have the capacity to refrain from interfering.
He was blocked? Blocked, you say?
Montmorency
10-04-2012, 02:28
Yes, oh yes: I do, I day.
I had him spend the night in the brig last night....
Do try to keep up. :p
Why is Ishmael's block garnering so little attention?
I cannot speak for others, but for me it's because there aren't any clearly 'missing' actions in the write-up. While we didn't see any clear mafia kills on N2, when Ishmael was blocked, we also didn't see any on N1. So, Ismael's block doesn't correspond with the absence of, well, anything.
Montmorency
10-04-2012, 03:57
there aren't any clearly 'missing' actions in the write-up.
I did note this. I also noted that Ishmael's distraction is the plausible alternative for one of the single-attacks. For that reason, it merits at least a little discussion.
Certainly more fruitful than voting ninjacow for drunken RP.
GeneralHankerchief
10-04-2012, 04:01
Voting closed.
Due to some unexpected RL busyness, my bookkeeping may be somewhat slightly off. Please bear with me/inform me of any issues. :bow:
GeneralHankerchief
10-04-2012, 04:54
Day 3
As Captain Zaccino had spent most of the day in his quarters, drinking and mourning the loss of his first mate, it fell to Quartermaster BSmith to keep track of the voting during this day. By sundown, BSmith was starting to wish he was back on swabby duty.
There was absolutely no consensus whatsoever. A full thirteen sailors aboard the Presence received votes, including, bizarrely, one man who, presumably drunk, voted for himself. Several sailors were active in the discussions but did not register an actual vote. Some of the pirates did not even appear to be speaking any recognizable tongue, yet alone English.
The Quartermaster was starting to break down from the stress when finally, mercifully, Captain Zaccino re-emerged from his quarters, looking businesslike once again. Everybody fell silent upon his entry, and BSmith savored that fleeting moment of peace.
"Quartermaster," he said, "Who be the day's victim?"
BSmith scanned his tally. "Well Cap'n, it be, uh, Makrell, by a margin o' seven votes to two to two to two to one to one to one to one to one to one to one to one."
The Captain looked briefly puzzled. "Hellfire," he said, "Seven votes be enough to lynch among a crew o' over thirty sailors? Well, I suppose that rules are rules. Makrell, have ye any last words?"
Makrell, all attention on him, started stammering on about how one sailor was more guilty than he, but couldn't seem to get it out and people swore that he changed his target mid-speech. He was still trying to say something coherent as Zaccino led him from the decks to the plank, and was finally pushed overboard midsentence.
"That be the last o' that," the Captain said. "Now, a bit o' housekeeping. First, it appears that there was a mistake in the crew registry. Our registry had the sailor topsecret down, but apparently that was a mistake and the sailor aboard was actually Captain Blackadder. I have updated the ship's roster to note this change.
"Secondly," he continued. "The position of First Mate has been filled by NinjaCow64. Please welcome him in his new position and pray that his lifespan be a tad longer than the last man to hold the office." There was a smattering of polite applause at this announcement, and NinjaCow got up and said something completely incoherent. The applause was slightly more uncertain after he sat down, and even Zaccino looked puzzled.
"Right then," he finished, "I hope that we be makin' progress. Don't be makin' too much trouble at night, mateys!"
Day 3 tally:
Makrell: 7 (TinCow, JoanK, Lyra, Diana, JHT, Ishmael, Buddhafish) :skull:
NinjaCow64: 2 (El Barto, Memnon)
edse: 2 (BSmith, Double A)
Andres: 2 (ATPG, Makrell)
JoanK: 1 (autolycus)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Andres)
Ishmael: 1 (NinjaCow)
Diana Abnoba: 1 (khaan)
TinCow: 1 (Visor)
Double A: 1 (edse)
Visorslash: 1 (Chaotix)
Kaiser Friedrich III: 1 (himself)
Abstained: 2 (Zaccino, ACIN)
Didn't vote: 8 (DaveShack, God Emperor, Ironside, Jolt, Kagemusha, Thermal, Tiaexz, topsecret)
OOC: Some housekeeping:
Please remember to vote if you post/unvote if you've already voted! I got a bit tripped up on the tally today because of that.
As mentioned in the writeup, Captain Blackadder has replaced topsecret by topsecret's request. LazyMcCrow is next in line to replace somebody.
It is now Night 3! Please send in your orders. Night 3 will conclude Friday, October 5th, at Noon US Eastern time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Attacked: TinCow (n1), Makrell (n2), issaikhaan (n2)
Killed: Arjos (n2), Xenoneb (n2), Choxorn (n2)
Walked the plank: Montmorency (d2), Makrell (d3)
Souls aboard: 30
a completely inoffensive name
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
BSmith
Buddhafish
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
DaveShack
Diana Abnoba
Double A
edse
El Barto
God Emperor
Ironside
Ishmael
issaikhaan
JoanK
johnhughthom
Jolt
Kagemusha
Kaiser Friedrich III
Lyra
Memnon
NinjaCow64
Thermal
Tiaexz
TinCow
Visorslash
Zaccino
Sorry for my inactivity, I am being a mafia noob again. :bow:
Montmorency
10-04-2012, 09:28
I'm disappointed by the lack of a Makrell-Mackerel pun.
Maybe after he was thrown into the ocean, Makrell was eaten by a giant Mackerel.
That was a bad pun, and you should feel bad for doing it.
Well, maybe my name gives me the ability to live in the ocean, so now i can soon come back
MUHAHAHA
johnhughthom
10-04-2012, 12:10
Yeap, you're so lazy you just follow the bandwagon.
Actually, I didn't realise there was a bandwagon against him at that point and voted him solely based on his post preceding mine. If you think that sounds odd, I generally catch up with a thread by reading backwards from the latest post. And, yes, that probably does explain a lot.
Sorry for my inactivity, I am being a mafia noob again. :bow:
It's not even as if you do any actual work around here. Lazy Beskie.
Sorry guys, was again inactive, this time due to Mass Effect 3. :P
Tonight, anyone who moves is a Spaniard, and anyone who doesn't is a well disciplined Spaniard. GIT SOME! BSmith
:laugh4: What do I get for 10 gold?
El Barto
10-04-2012, 22:26
Actually, I didn't realise there was a bandwagon against him at that point and voted him solely based on his post preceding mine. If you think that sounds odd, I generally catch up with a thread by reading backwards from the latest post. And, yes, that probably does explain a lot.
And not just about your forum behaviour…
Sorry guys, was again inactive, this time due to Mass Effect 3. :P
That be no excuse. Nay, there be no computers on board a wooden ship such as ours. :stare:
:laugh4: What do I get for 10 gold?
A gun, clothes, and a motorcycle.
A gun, clothes, and a motorcycle.
A "motorcycle"? What be this foul contraption? A rapidly occurring series of recurring events? Er, I mean, go swab the poopdeck ye scurvy-ridden landlubber.
El Barto
10-04-2012, 23:10
In other words, it will give him little of use for this game. Let's be a-swindling him.
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2012, 03:41
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:
Good news, everyone: I now have a job!
The bad news for us is that I'm doing deliveries, which means there's no telling when I might be called away from the computer. The precise timing and relative speed with which I've been ending rounds and getting results out will most likely drop from here on out.
You'll be seeing this immediately; because I'll be out when the round ends tomorrow, Night 3 is indefinitely extended until I specifically end it in the thread. I don't think it'll be more than a few hours late.
Thanks for your understanding. :bow:
El Barto
10-05-2012, 03:55
I went through a similar change of schedules right through my last game, my counsel is that you reset the game setup to a 48/24 regular schedule at a time when it's very rare that you'll be doing stuff. Mine ended with update times at 10/11 PM and extensive use of the timer feature. Which, by the way, didn't work as had just been installed so I spent much time trying out different forms as a guinea pig until we got it working right.
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2012, 04:26
Yeah, once I settle into a routine I'd imagine that the round end times, etc. will become less erratic. Hopefully that won't be too long.
Congrats on the new job GeneralHankerchief ~:cheers:
Which, by the way, didn't work as had just been installed so I spent much time trying out different forms as a guinea pig until we got it working right.
It worked fine, you were the only person having problems with it.
El Barto
10-05-2012, 21:20
I got a few complaints from other people, I saw my schedules just fine!
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2012, 21:51
Night 3 has ended, no more orders will be accepted.
I will try to get everything done before I get called away, but no promises.
There's always the option of doing a quick "these are the results" writeup, then doing a more in-depth tale at a later point, as time permits. Yarr.
Askthepizzaguy
10-05-2012, 22:47
YARRR then folks won't read the game host's later, more eloquent and beautiful writeup.
I might be a bloodthirsty (more like goldthirsty) pirate, but really, who says we can't appreciate art?
GeneralHankerchief
10-05-2012, 23:32
Night 3
Captain Zaccino had only started to nod off when he was awoken by the sound of someone trying to sneak in his quarters. Immediately his mind went to the gold. Nobody would be foolish enough to try to murder the Captain at night, and there was no other reason that somebody would try to break into his cabin. Zaccino rummaged through his bedside drawer, found his Captain's pistol, and simply pointed it at his treasure stash, waiting.
Two minutes later, the entrant finally broke through. As expected, he went right for Zaccino's gold stash. For the first few seconds, Zaccino did nothing, trying to lull his would-be robber into a false sense of security. But after a while, he couldn't take it anymore. Using his free hand, the Captain lit a candle which illuminated his other hand, still with the gun in it pointed right at the thief.
Taken totally by surprise, the thief uttered a very loud swear and swiftly exited the room, taking nothing. Zaccino wasn't able to get a glimpse of the thief's face, but the culprit's figure and the almost lawyerly way he swore pointed to only one possible suspect: TinCow.
Elsewhere on the Presence, Diana Abnoba had decided that she too would be prepared for anyone trying to thieve her stash of treasure and spent the night in her bunk cradling her bag as hard as she could. Eventually she drifted off, but was woken up by someone trying to wrestle it away from her - a very bold move, but a futile one, as Diana had a death grip on her bag.
Diana and her would-be thief silently wrestled for two minutes before the thief finally realized the folly of further effort, muttering something about "Divine protection" as he slunk away. Clearly, this had to be issaikhaan.
DaveShack had been doing the same thing this night on the Presence that he had been doing every night: absolutely nothing. The man had apparently evolved beyond the need to take care of certain bodily functions such as sleep and eat and even talk, for he had done nothing of the sort since the raid on the Spanish Treasure fleet. Instead, he just... stood out there on the decks, staring out at the sea.
For the first few days, this behavior was viewed with some amusement, and an enterprising thief or two had used this zombielike behavior to steal some gold from DaveShack's treasure stash. On this night, however, DaveShack's use to the crew would run out - after one final time being taken advantage of, of course.
Four sailors emerged from below decks and saw DaveShack in his usual spot, unmoving, completely not registering anything that would happen. This would be the easiest kill of their careers. They walked right up behind Dave and started slashing away with their cutlasses, leaving nothing to chance. Still without any sort of reaction from DaveShack, they finally dragged him to the edge of the ship and pushed him overboard.
The four sailors went back below decks, smirking. Meanwhile, DaveShack would soon find that he did, in fact, need oxygen to survive, as the crushing depths of the Atlantic would soon claim him forever.
A few hours later, two separate sailors were being dangled off the edge of the Presence. It was unclear whether their fear or their pain was greater, as each sailor was gripped only by the hair. Naturally, it did not take long for them to start begging for mercy from their tormentors.
"Please, why do you do this? What do you want from us?! Stop this madness, mateys!"
The two above decks merely laughed. "Save you? You have violated every law known to man. You have forsworn your national origin in favor of the black flag and now live in a lawless, ruthless, and Godless society. You steal from His Majesty Philip of Spain and you expect there to be no consequences? Why should we do anything to spare either of you?"
A pause. Then...
"Because we want to live!" one of them screamed. The other nodded vigorously in agreement. "We see the error of our ways, senors! We will join your side, please, just bring us back overboard!!!"
One Guardacosta agent looked to the other. "Yes, I think that will serve," he said, and they both lifted their victims up (still by the hair). "By the power vested in us as agents of King Philip V, we hereby offer you two Letters of Marque in exchange for your service against Spain's enemies. Keep in mind that if you ever defy the crown again, you will be dropped *all the way* overboard."
That morning, Captain Zaccino emerged from his quarters to begin the day's vote proceedings as usual. "Be at heart, mateys, the number o' kills last night dropped from three to one. In addition, we will begin to get results back from the dead starting tomorrow morning. Keep it up, lads, and we be puttin' all this nonsense behind us!"
There was some mild applause, and then the voting began once again.
OOC: Thank you for your patience.
RULE CHANGE: Because of the potentially game-breaking nature of being intentionally caught stealing treasure, I am instituting a new rule where if you are caught stealing three times, you are automatically lynched. This rule change is *not* retroactive, meaning that TinCow and issaikhaan's "caught stealing" counter is at zero just like everyone else's.
It is now Day 4! Voting will last until Saturday, October 6th, at 23:59 US Eastern time.
Feedback PMs incoming, hopefully I won't be interrupted while sending them out.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Attacked: TinCow (n1), Makrell (n2), issaikhaan (n2)
Killed: Arjos (n2), Xenoneb (n2), Choxorn (n2), DaveShack (n3)
Walked the plank: Montmorency (d2), Makrell (d3)
Souls aboard: 29
a completely inoffensive name
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
BSmith
Buddhafish
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Diana Abnoba
Double A
edse
El Barto
God Emperor
Ironside
Ishmael
issaikhaan
JoanK
johnhughthom
Jolt
Kagemusha
Kaiser Friedrich III
Lyra
Memnon
NinjaCow64
Thermal
Tiaexz
TinCow
Visorslash
Zaccino
Shocking behavior from TinCow. No one steals from the Captain and gets away with it.
Although this seems to point to TinCow and khaan almost assuredly being town, if they were caught stealing instead of offering Letters of Marque.
Double A
10-05-2012, 23:41
Now I'm not totally sure about this because I didn't understand all the events of the night before last, but it looks like what happened with Makrell wasn't an anomaly (someone who fails to steal gets their name revealed or something along those lines), though I will grant that he was acting incredibly weird to begin with.
No. Makrell is listed as attacked, while Diana and I are not listed in such a manner.
Montmorency
10-05-2012, 23:53
:daisy:
5 Guardacosta - though there's still hope one of the dead was the godfather.
GeneralHankerchief
10-06-2012, 00:08
Got called away, there may be a delay in your feedback PM if you haven't received one already.
Minimum of 4 mafia. Most likely 5. That's certainly not good. Also, the power for two nightkills is now in the power of the mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
10-06-2012, 00:19
Shocking behavior from TinCow. No one steals from the Captain and gets away with it.
Although this seems to point to TinCow and khaan almost assuredly being town, if they were caught stealing instead of offering Letters of Marque.
Yay!
I figured this move would be beneficial.
RULE CHANGE: Because of the potentially game-breaking nature of being intentionally caught stealing treasure
Obvious gamebreaking idea is obvious. Still, we got some data.
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