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Riedquat
02-22-2013, 16:44
I could be one more in the wagon and vote Jarema but I sincerely don't think he is one of our guys...
Vote: Csargo
and why Csargo?
there is about 0% chance that he would be lynched now.
And I do not see anything so scummy in him
vote for White Eyes
Riedquat
02-22-2013, 18:29
and why Csargo?
there is about 0% chance that he would be lynched now.
And I do not see anything so scummy in him
vote for White Eyes
I don't see anything so scummy in anyone apart of Lazy, who is acting to weird to be scum, between the living are hiding two mafiosi and the only one giving me this sense "of something is wrong" is Csargo at this moment.
Having said that, you now seem a bit to eager to revert the situation you are in...and you also seem to be pretty convinced WE is scum, why? I only have a great doubt about everybody beside me.
I just believe that vote should make a difference. It seems that if you are not voting for me, you should vote for White Eyes. UNLESS you have reason to vote for someone else (than make a case). Voting for random player (vote without any reason appears to be random) is not good as it: does not change situation; does not further discussion; do not provide data for analyzing you
Why I vote for White Eyes?
1. Because I do not have better targets
2. Because, after reading Elite Ferret post, White Eyes behavior seems indeed disturbing to me (so I basically follow Elite here - not great move, but better than random vote
Riedquat
02-22-2013, 19:17
I just believe that vote should make a difference. It seems that if you are not voting for me, you should vote for White Eyes. UNLESS you have reason to vote for someone else (than make a case). Voting for random player (vote without any reason appears to be random) is not good as it: does not change situation; does not further discussion; do not provide data for analyzing you
Sorry but I don't see it that way. I'm clueless as everybody else seems to be, so I can't make or prove a case. I feel any vote I can make today is random, joining your wagon was more random than voting Csargo, you are right, it doesn't change the situation but we are discussing after all.
White_eyes:D
02-22-2013, 20:38
I think that White eyes is just being white eyes.
"That there is the town drunk, just ignore him and he well go away.":barrel:
OMGUS some, White Eyes?
I do not think I am jumping much. I do not have enough time for this game, to make a lot of jumping
And you really should vote for Bingo
If I was voting for EF then yes...it would have been OMGUS but I voted for you. You have been jumping on bandwagons, never leading a case that will later on get you lynched. I know that I will, since I have been leading a few bandwagons now...scum would not risk that as it puts them too much out in the open. You have been just jumping from one bandwagon to the next with not much thought of your own but also just staying out of the spotlight. If you had led the bandwagon on me I likely would have been pressuring other suspects.:book2:
That is just the way the cookie crumbles I guess.:shrug:
Kind of low on the activity for 2 days...
But I guess I have no right to complain, overshooting the phase end by 12 hours.
No time for a write-up right now, but Jarema has been lynched. I'll have the write-up as soon as I have time to do one.
Send me night orders. You know what to do.
Double A
02-24-2013, 05:01
Maybe it's because you won't let people vote for Bingo.
DAY 7
There were still a few stragglers who wanted to keep playing Bingo, but in the end they took the responsible approach and decided to head down to the Engine Room.
When they arrived, one thing was apparent: somebody had messed this engine up good, and it had probably caused the ship to crash in the first place. The engine itself had been more or less blown to bits; there were only a few pieces of the foundation left in place. The various pieces of machinery lying around were too rusted to be of any use.
Up in the nearby Control Room, though, they figured out what might have caused the engine to explode. Under the large screen that covered one wall with indiscernible technobabble, a panel had been pried loose underneath, and a single red wire cut.
Suddenly, the screen went black, and the image on it was replaced with a familiar face.
“I, Zaccino, Immortal, am contacting you from the beyond.”
“Zack, is that you? We thought you were dead!”
“No. I, Zaccino, Immortal, am not the one you called Zack. He was merely my spiritual descendant on your planet. But he, unlike me, was not Immortal. I, Zaccino, Immortal, have contacted you from the great depths of Space to deliver a warning.”
“Oh, man. Haven’t we run into enough of you one-off NPC characters yet?”
“Silence! I, Zaccino, Immortal, must deliver an important message. The ones you call ‘Coldenskians’ have uncovered a powerful SPACE WHALE artifact. Given time, they could develop the technology to mind-control all people on this planet into being what you call ‘collectivists’.”
Foreman Chaotix grimaced through his ever-present gas mask.
“That sounds bad. We need to recover this artifact quickly. Unfortunately, I don’t see any way to repair this engine; it’s busted to pieces and we’ve got no spare parts.”
“There is one way. Dark SPACE WHALE magicks. I could use them to provide you with a new engine… however, it would require a human sacrifice.”
“It’s our only choice. Let’s hope we can give him that Goldie-Coldie who’s been messing with our expedition.”
In the end, they decided on Jarema.
“No! Please! You can’t just do this!”
“Sorry, Jarema, but it’s either you die or all of us die. You should be proud to serve your country like this.”
Jarema drew his Coldenski combat knife and struck a fighting pose.
“I will never serve the Republic, you capitalist dogs!”
He lunged forward and scored a nasty gash on the Foreman, who just barely had time to dodge the killing blow. Then Jarema jumped on the Foreman, knocking him to the ground. With his knife poised over Chaotix’s chest, he was poised to finish him off.
“ACTIVATING LASER-LASSO”
It was the Bingotron 9000 to the rescue! It turned out that the Bingotron also doubled as the ship’s security system. Two laser lassos shot out of a ceiling panel, catching the Coldenski agent by both arms. Jarema struggled, but couldn’t break free as he was dragged to the center of the Engine Room.
“All right, Zaccino. We’ve got him all tied up and ready.”
“I, Zaccino, Immortal, shall begin the ritual. BLUBTH-B’GLUB, BLUBTH-B’GLUB, BLUBTH-B’GLUB…”
Zaccino continued to chant the strange word over and over. Within a few moments, Jarema began to scream in pain. First, black blood began flowing out of his eyes, ears, and nose. It looked suspiciously like oil. Then he slowly began to turn to metal, gears and circuitry.
In a few agonizing minutes, Jarema had been transformed entirely into a brand new engine for the ship. Zaccino stopped chanting. The workers were all pretty freaked out, but they didn’t complain. They had to get the ship ready for lift off.
As the unnamed ship engaged its thrusters and flew off into the distance, a large object dropped into its place. Just moments after the ship had escaped, a nuclear explosion shook the crater it had previously inhabited. There was no doubt as to the intended target of that bomb.
BEGIN NIGHT 7
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Alive: 8
BSmith
Csargo
dcmort93
Elite Ferret
LazyMcCrow
Riedquat
Visorslash
White_eyes:D
Not Alive: 18
Choxorn - Should've said he was a witch.
Zack - Will probably be reincarnated as a Space Whale.
The King - Is probably wishing he was still called Ibn Khaldun.
Darth Feather - Never liked licorice much anyway.
Montmorency - Is probably medium-rare right about now.
Makrell - Is in sweet, sweet heaven.
TinCow - Shouldn't have lost his head in that argument.
Arjos - He may be dead, but his legacy lives on...
Ishmael - Is between a rock and a hot place. Actually, he is between two hot molten rocks. Or actually it could be three.
Double A - Swam in so much sugar he got the bends.
Jolt - Has been put on ice.
Askthepizzaguy - His maniacal plans have been foiled.
Ironside - Victim of a post-hijacking.
robbiecon - Endured horrors so terrible they could not be shown in this programme.
Gaius Scribonius Curio - They say you are what you eat, but he never did eat his vegetables.
edse - Should've listened to the rules.
autolycus - Snacked out, then bit the bullet.
Jarema - Is now the engine of Republican victory.
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Night 7 will probably last another half hour, as I already have the night orders and I just need to do another write-up.
Back-to-back write-ups! YAY!
NIGHT 7
Riedquat was taking a nap in the crew quarters. The four-person rooms were full of beds, so they were the most logical places to sleep. There were few of them now and enough rooms that each worker could have an entire room to himself. As Riedquat was about to find out, this was perhaps not the safest course of action.
A voice speaking to Riedquat from nowhere in particular woke him up.
“HEY, RIEDQUAT. ISN’T IT A LITTLE STUFFY IN HERE? AREN’T YOU TOO HOT?”
“Uhh… no, not really, creepy voice. The temperature’s actually just fine. Don’t worry about it.”
“Nonsense. I think you need something to cool you down. Mwehehehe! Give him the peppermint!”
“ONE PEPPERMINT CANDY COMING RIGHT UP.”
“Wait, what? What’s going on?”
A small peppermint candy dropped into the room.
“Mwehehehe! Better run while you still can, Riedquat! Things are about to get chilly in here!”
Riedquat looked at it. It remained motionless on the floor. He ignored it and went back to sleep.
About an hour later, Riedquat woke up again, freezing. As he looked around him, he realized the entire room was covered in a frosty sheen. Waves of cold had been emanating from the strange peppermint candy this entire time.
Shivering, he got up and went to the door. It had one of those old-timey porthole handles, and it was frozen shut. No matter how hard he pulled and twisted, he couldn’t get the handle to budge. The most he managed to do was get his hands stuck to the handle at one point.
“COME ON, RIEDQUAT. IT’S SO OBVIOUS. YOU JUST HAVE TO EAT THE CANDY!”
Frantically, Riedquat picked up the peppermint candy and shoved it in his mouth. He swallowed it whole, unable to wait for the cold to stop.
“OOPS. I LIED. ACTUALLY, YOU CAN’T DIGEST THIS KIND OF CANDY. IT’S JUST GOING TO SIT IN YOUR BELLY AND FREEZE YOU FROM THE INSIDE OUT!”
“Mwehehehe! What a foolish little human!”
Now Riedquat was pretty annoyed. He’d had enough of these stupid red voices. He got back into bed and went back to sleep. He didn’t wake up, but at least he robbed them of the enjoyment of watching him squirm.
---
In the morning, there were only seven of them, plus the Foreman. One of the doors in the crew quarters had been frozen shut for some reason.
“All right, team! We’re en route to the Coldenski capital right now. We’ve got a couple of options. We’ve got enough firepower on this thing to make it feasible to go in guns blazing and level the whole city. It might make it difficult to find the artifact in all the rubble, though. And there’s always the risk that we get shot down. Or, we could activate stealth mode and slip into the capital undetected. Less innocents would be caught in the crossfire this way, but we would have to take on all of the enemy that we encounter on foot.”
The team murmured to themselves and to each other, deciding on a course of action.
“Of course, if you’ve got a better idea, you can suggest that, too. Also something we have to worry about is the unknown interlopers. The Coldenski threat on-board may have ended, but there’s been another secret threat this whole time. Find the interloper, and we’ll drop him into the sky.”
BEGIN DAY 8
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Alive: 7
BSmith
Csargo
dcmort93
Elite Ferret
LazyMcCrow
Visorslash
White_eyes:D
Not Alive: 19
Choxorn - Should've said he was a witch.
Zack - Will probably be reincarnated as a Space Whale.
The King - Is probably wishing he was still called Ibn Khaldun.
Darth Feather - Never liked licorice much anyway.
Montmorency - Is probably medium-rare right about now.
Makrell - Is in sweet, sweet heaven.
TinCow - Shouldn't have lost his head in that argument.
Arjos - He may be dead, but his legacy lives on...
Ishmael - Is between a rock and a hot place. Actually, he is between two hot molten rocks. Or actually it could be three.
Double A - Swam in so much sugar he got the bends.
Jolt - Has been put on ice.
Askthepizzaguy - His maniacal plans have been foiled.
Ironside - Victim of a post-hijacking.
robbiecon - Endured horrors so terrible they could not be shown in this programme.
Gaius Scribonius Curio - They say you are what you eat, but he never did eat his vegetables.
edse - Should've listened to the rules.
autolycus - Snacked out, then bit the bullet.
Jarema - Is now the engine of Republican victory.
Riedquat - They took his life, but not his dignity.
Choice options for today are Stealth, Smash, or Choose Your Own Plan. If you opt for choice three, you must actually describe your plan, and it will become one of the options.
This phase will last 24 hours.
Foreman Chaotix's Handy Dandy Swiss Army Wristwatch:
Askthepizzaguy
02-25-2013, 05:58
I'm still amused by/rooting for the red guy killer.
Montmorency
02-25-2013, 06:40
It's clearly Visorslash.
Askthepizzaguy
02-25-2013, 07:20
Wrong! It's clearly VisorSHHHHH.
LazyMcCrow
02-25-2013, 10:21
Interesting How wrong is it possible to be about Riedquat :shrug:. Well - I've been wrong about everything except the fact that Jarema is always scum. So vote: White_Eyes:D vote:SMASH
Double A
02-25-2013, 11:53
Wrong! It's clearly VisorSHHHHH.
Visorsmash?
vote:White_eyes:D
vote:Smash
Well at least it looks like we got all of the Coldenskians.
Askthepizzaguy
02-25-2013, 16:29
Lazy seems a bit too self-conscious for our health.
White_eyes:D
02-25-2013, 16:34
Interesting How wrong is it possible to be about Riedquat :shrug:. Well - I've been wrong about everything except the fact that Jarema is always scum. You always seem to be wrong about him...:laugh4:
Killing off Riedquat was just a bad move for the remaining scumbag, because of this Csargo is cleared in my mind as he would know better. I doubt it's Lazy pretty much all the way due to the horrible suspects Lazy picks even by scum standards. I hate to do this, but I think it's EF who is our remaining scumbag. Other then a scum vibe and him voting with Jarema last round, I have nothing else to single him out as our remaining scum.:shrug: Vote:EF
Vote:SMASH
Jarema was mafia, the remaining scum looks to be a serial killer. How would voting in line with the mafia make someone more likely to be an unrelated serial killer?
Riedquat
02-25-2013, 18:34
Jarema was mafia, the remaining scum looks to be a serial killer. How would voting in line with the mafia make someone more likely to be an unrelated serial killer?
Because they think alike? You know, there was this thing where both coldeskians and sk have been hitting same targets...
I can be dead wrong... but I think probably WE:D has something there...
I agree with white eyes, Vote:Elite Ferret and Vote: smash .
Vote:Visorslash
He's our man I think.
Smash
Askthepizzaguy
02-26-2013, 00:25
Jarema was mafia, the remaining scum looks to be a serial killer. How would voting in line with the mafia make someone more likely to be an unrelated serial killer?
The logic might be atrocious, but that doesn't mean the conclusion is incorrect.
I find that caught scum typically argue against the bad reasoning used to indict them, as if town using shoddy reasoning to lynch someone were new or relevant.
A vote on a scumbag is still a correct vote even if the reasoning used for the vote is mind-numbingly bad.
Whether this means I endorse your lynch or not is a mystery. Draw your own conclusions. Meanwhile, I will nibble on Reidquat's brain.
Had to break the tie. Sorry White eyes.
Lynch Tally:
White_eyes:D - 3 (LazyMcCrow, Elite Ferret, Visorslash)
Elite Ferret - 1 (White_eyes:D)
Visorslash - 1 (Csargo)
Choice Tally:
Stealth - 0
Smash - 5 (LazyMcCrow, Elite Ferret, White_eyes:D, Visorslash, Csargo)
Wow, you guys are just full of energy today. I may as well just hand the game over to the mafia now, that's how much it looks like you want to win.
I was debating extending the round but you guys pulled the total votes from 3 up to 5 in the last couple of hours, so I'll let it slide.
Standby for write-up.
I should have voted for Elite Ferret. :shame:
Though that vote change may convince people that Visor is deserving of a lynch.
DAY 8
"So, did you find the infiltrator?"
Three of the team nodded. Two shook their heads vigorously. The last two were asleep in the corner.
"Yes, it's White_eyes:D!"
"Yeah, it's definitely White_eyes:D! He has a weird symbol at the end of his name!"
"White_eyes:D, what do you have to say for yourself?"
"I didn't do it!"
"Not good enough."
Foreman Chaotix pressed a button, and a square hole opened up beneath White_eyes:D, unceremoniously dropping him directly into the sky below. He fell.
An evil red glint flashed in two of the crew members' eyes.
"By tomorrow morning we will arrive at Coldenskgrad, and the bombardment will begin. I suggest you all get some sleep so you are ready."
BEGIN NIGHT 8
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Alive: 6
BSmith
Csargo
dcmort93
Elite Ferret
LazyMcCrow
Visorslash
Not Alive: 20
Choxorn - Should've said he was a witch.
Zack - Will probably be reincarnated as a Space Whale.
The King - Is probably wishing he was still called Ibn Khaldun.
Darth Feather - Never liked licorice much anyway.
Montmorency - Is probably medium-rare right about now.
Makrell - Is in sweet, sweet heaven.
TinCow - Shouldn't have lost his head in that argument.
Arjos - He may be dead, but his legacy lives on...
Ishmael - Is between a rock and a hot place. Actually, he is between two hot molten rocks. Or actually it could be three.
Double A - Swam in so much sugar he got the bends.
Jolt - Has been put on ice.
Askthepizzaguy - His maniacal plans have been foiled.
Ironside - Victim of a post-hijacking.
robbiecon - Endured horrors so terrible they could not be shown in this programme.
Gaius Scribonius Curio - They say you are what you eat, but he never did eat his vegetables.
edse - Should've listened to the rules.
autolycus - Snacked out, then bit the bullet.
Jarema - Is now the engine of Republican victory.
Riedquat - They took his life, but not his dignity.
White_eyes:D - Forgot to bring a parachute.
The ghost of choxorn searches the ship for ghost-popcorn.
Double A
02-26-2013, 07:40
I have some caramel-coated popcorn down here.
LazyMcCrow
02-26-2013, 08:55
:shame: We are doomed.
Askthepizzaguy
02-26-2013, 09:02
:shame: We are doomed.
They sure are.
Meanwhile, how are you doing?
LazyMcCrow
02-26-2013, 09:50
They sure are.
Meanwhile, how are you doing?
Heh! As you posted above - rather self-conscious about my efforts. If you'd voted as badly as I had this game ....no wait, I was going to say you'd be embarrassed too, but I very much doubt that is possible ^^
Darth Feather
02-26-2013, 10:29
:shame: We are doomed.
Even the host admits it. So yes, the town is doomed :devil:
Gaius Scribonius Curio
02-26-2013, 12:01
If there are two killers, and they are both able to kill, and do: that leaves two town and two killers tomorrow. Even allowing that a killer is lynched the final day will see one and one.
The town's hope lies in the fact that, until now, there has only been one red kill per night. This means either they are restricted to one as a group, or less likely, the second killer has been inactive. DCmort93 has not been wogged and has posted only twice in-game. Having not played a Chaotix game before I don't know if that is usual. If not, perhaps he is one killer?
It is tenuous - and he should definitely not be the first target (an inactive killer is less of a problem than an active one) - but may explain the apparent inconsistencies.
So basically the town has to lynch the serial killer tomorrow, or hope that DCmort93 returns for the last phase. It's still doable.
Oh and; sorry White eyes :shame:
White_eyes:D
02-26-2013, 17:40
I don't know what :daisy:s me off more, that we don't have enough active votes after this round to win....or that we were never dealing with a SK but an opposing scum team. With a SK you know what to look for...with a scum team it's a whole different ball game.:wall:
I am 100% sure it's Lazy and Visorslash. Lazy is not being a bad townie but is more acting like a cleverly hidden scumbag...I overlooked it because I thought we were dealing with an SK. Visorslash is not acting paranoid...nuff said.:laugh4:
I can't believe that other scum team missed them when they were wide open as kill targets.:mean:
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 02:46
An evil red glint flashed in two of the crew members' eyes.
Are you suggesting, White_Eyes, that the red team is comprised of two members of the Cyclops race?
Montmorency
02-27-2013, 02:53
two of the crew members' eyes.
Note the plural possessive " s' ".
I think it may be ambiguous at first glance.
1. The eyes of two crew members glinted.
2. The (?) two eyes of a single crew member glinted.
Because of the plural possessive " s' ", interpretation #1 should be preferred. Or do you think the final scum has more than two eyes, that "two" should be specifically used instead of both?
I would accept your interpretation if the line were something like, "A red glint flashed in [both of] a certain crewmember's eyes."
NIGHT 8
When Csargo woke up, he found himself in the ship’s nearly-abandoned Med Bay for some reason. He was in one of the hospital beds, dressed only in patient clothing, and there was an IV in each of his arms.
As he groggily assessed his situation, still half-asleep, he noticed that the bags attached to the IVs were definitely not blood-colored. In fact, he didn’t feel injured. Why was he in the Med Bay at all? This was starting to freak him out. He moved to remove the IVs from his arms.
“I WOULDN’T DO THAT IF I WERE YOU.”
Csargo couldn’t tell where the voice was coming from, but it didn’t sound friendly. A different voice boomed in alongside it.
“You see, those needles are attached to a tripwire that leads directly to a set-up of approximately 500 diet cola bottles hidden under your bed, in the walls and above the ceiling tiles. Suspended above each cola bottle is a pack of Mentos. If you so much as move those needles, the tripwire will trigger the Mentos to fall directly into the cola below, and you will be engulfed in an explosion of fizz and sugar! Mwehehehe!”
“I-I don’t understand! Why? What’s so important about these IVs anyway?”
“Oh, well those are hooked up directly to two bags of Pixi Stix dust. Right now they are flooding your veins with pure sugar. In about 2 minutes your blood sugar will be high enough to force you into diabetic shock! Mweheheheh!”
“What? Just what is going on here? So if I stay put and do nothing, I die, while if I try to escape, I die? Why even give me a choice?”
“IT MAKES IT MORE FUN.”
---
Meanwhile, in the Command Center, the assault on Coldenskgrad was running quite smoothly. The ship had engaged its combat AI (which was incidentally also the Bingotron 9000) and was firing plasma cannons, dropping anti-matter bombs, and generally just wreaking all kinds of havoc. The shields protected the ship from any sort of retaliating the surprised Coldenskian forces could manage. Foreman Chaotix looked on with pleasure behind his gas mask.
“For the Republic! Soon, we will bring freedom to all these Coldenski dogs, whether they like it or not!”
A couple of the team members present wondered if there would be any Coldenskians left to bring freedom to. Who had even voted for that “Smash” idea anyway? Why were they doing this again?
The Foreman laughed a short, terse laugh and the bombardment continued.
---
Csargo couldn’t take it anymore. He was sweating and breathing heavily and his heart was starting to beat faster and faster, and he was pretty sure it wasn’t just because he was nervous. It was also becoming, very, very difficult for him to sit still, likely as a result of the forced sugar high. Then it started to hurt.
“How’s it going there, old chap? I hope you’re not going to give up yet, after all we have enough Pixi dust in those bags to last an hour! Mwehehehe!”
Csargo screamed in mixed pain, frustration, and rage. In that moment he jumped out of the bed, tore the needles out of his arms, and started running. The tripwire was triggered, and the Mentos dropped.
---
A huge explosion shook the entire left side of the ship. The explosion then reverberated against the shield keeping in it, bouncing back and hitting the side of the ship again. What was left in place of about 30% of the ship was a huge smoking hole.
“Left engines down! We’ve taken too much damage to the hull! We’re going down!”
CRRRRRRAAAAAAASHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
---
Luckily the Bingotron 9000 engaged auto-seat belts so the team was safe. Well, most of them.
After they escaped the wreckage, they looked around them.
“This is… the Hexagon! The military headquarters of the Coldensk Union – or what’s left of it, anyway. And I’ll bet the Space Whale artifact is here as well. The resistance has been crushed; now we just need to decide what to do with it.”
BEGIN DAY 9
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Alive: 5
BSmith
dcmort93
Elite Ferret
LazyMcCrow
Visorslash
Not Alive: 21
Choxorn - Should've said he was a witch.
Zack - Will probably be reincarnated as a Space Whale.
The King - Is probably wishing he was still called Ibn Khaldun.
Darth Feather - Never liked licorice much anyway.
Montmorency - Is probably medium-rare right about now.
Makrell - Is in sweet, sweet heaven.
TinCow - Shouldn't have lost his head in that argument.
Arjos - He may be dead, but his legacy lives on...
Ishmael - Is between a rock and a hot place. Actually, he is between two hot molten rocks. Or actually it could be three.
Double A - Swam in so much sugar he got the bends.
Jolt - Has been put on ice.
Askthepizzaguy - His maniacal plans have been foiled.
Ironside - Victim of a post-hijacking.
robbiecon - Endured horrors so terrible they could not be shown in this programme.
Gaius Scribonius Curio - They say you are what you eat, but he never did eat his vegetables.
edse - Should've listened to the rules.
autolycus - Snacked out, then bit the bullet.
Jarema - Is now the engine of Republican victory.
Riedquat - They took his life, but not his dignity.
White_eyes:D - Forgot to bring a parachute.
Csargo - FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM!
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You have two options today, and since we are getting real serious up in here, we have a nice moral choice: Destroy the Artifact or Use the Artifact.
vote: visorslash Convince me you are not scum. Where is your normal analysis at this stage of the game?
let's use it!
LazyMcCrow
02-27-2013, 10:33
I am 100% sure it's Lazy and Visorslash.
100% sure you may be my friend, but that does not make you 100% right. DCmort can't be scum right? Who only posts twice in a game when they're scum? Which means that someone needs to wake him up pronto. So its' two of Visor, Bmith and EFerret
Let's assume Visorslash is scum number 1. That means he either voted for his scum buddy yesterday and jumped off to prevent a tie, or the Ferret is innocent and he's being bussed by his scum-buddy today (see BSMiths peachy keen vote above) I don't know. Anyone want to lend a hand? Ferret is the obvious choice unless yesterdays vote was all subterfuge, but he just seems less scummy to me than BSmith, who is all 'do the right thing' this morning.
The other option of course is that BSmith and EF are scum and Visor is having an off game, so I'm quite willing to change this vote - assuming people actually respond to the trhead: vote: Visorslash
LazyMcCrow
02-27-2013, 10:34
and of course vote: Use the Artifact ...duh?
Vote: Bsmith
my analysis says you are scum.
Just a quick look at your posts suggest that you have been playing to go under the radar.
And no, I am not always super townie. Go look at Leaving Limbo, Darkling, etc.
Players left:
Elite Ferret
BSmith
Lazy
Dc
Now, DC is either inactive scum or inactive town, regardless should not be lynched today. Therefore this leaves Lazy, Elite and Bsmith. I'm going to recap a few things from memory from each of them.
Elite Ferret and BSmith have been very similar in their postings. Both have stayed under the radar, both have made relatively safe votes, and neither have really done much analysis or cases or discussion in the thread besides Bsmith with Jolt. However, Lazy has focused only on Riedquat which is a tactic I remember from my small game I hosted when he was mafia with atheotes. He seems to be repeating it here on a scummy target (riedquat) that no-one will question. Considering his following votes, he is a top contender to be mafia.
When it comes to deciding between BSmith and Elite Ferret, I take note of both past performances as scum. Elite was more joking, post more, questioned more. This is not the behaviour he is displaying right now. Whereas Bsmith is displaying his slow posting, lack of information, under the radar style.
From seeing both play, it seems to me that Bsmith and Lazy are scum. And are searching to get a quick lynch on me, the obvious target.
Riedquat
02-27-2013, 15:00
100% sure you may be my friend, but that does not make you 100% right. DCmort can't be scum right? Who only posts twice in a game when they're scum? Which means that someone needs to wake him up pronto. So its' two of Visor, Bmith and EFerret
Let's assume Visorslash is scum number 1. That means he either voted for his scum buddy yesterday and jumped off to prevent a tie, or the Ferret is innocent and he's being bussed by his scum-buddy today (see BSMiths peachy keen vote above) I don't know. Anyone want to lend a hand? Ferret is the obvious choice unless yesterdays vote was all subterfuge, but he just seems less scummy to me than BSmith, who is all 'do the right thing' this morning.
The other option of course is that BSmith and EF are scum and Visor is having an off game, so I'm quite willing to change this vote - assuming people actually respond to the trhead: vote: Visorslash
Do you mean actual people or the ghostly town? I've been wrong all game but think Visor is town, can't say the same of you any more and EF seems scummy in his last posts, BSmith has been himself after those wall of texts of the beginning. You and EF. or EF and you, or both...
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 15:32
Visor smells normal to me.
Zombies know these things.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 15:33
Note the plural possessive " s' ".
"Crew members" would be plural anyway.
I will freely admit that my posting history this game has been anything but stellar. I have essentially lurked most of the game, and have had little input into the discussion. Now that it is likely the last day I am all of a sudden back in the game and trying to get something done. To top all of this off, I tend to lurk more when I am scum than when I have nothing to lose. I am also still alive after all of these rounds, yet another nail in the coffin.
It certainly doesn’t look good.
I could blame this on a lot of things: I had a death in the family earlier this month, there was a holiday weekend (I am never that active on the weekends anyway due to family commitments), many of the phases just didn’t work out from a timing perspective (ending on weekends, etc.). But the truth is that I just never got into this game. To be honest I haven’t really put that much time or effort into any of the games I have played this past month or so.
I am not proud of this performance. Part of me kept hoping I’d get killed off so I wouldn’t have to worry about it anymore. That has obviously not happened. So here we are. Likely lynch or lose. Likely two scummers left. Good news is that I have a 50% chance of voting for a scum, even if it is random. The flip of a coin.
So here is what I think about the rest of you:
dcmort93: Nothing at all. Due to his complete lack of posting, I have nothing.
Elite Ferret: No opinion one way or another. Part of this is because of my lack of detailed attention to this game. Another part is that I have not played that many games with him, and don’t have a familiar pattern of his play style developed yet. I’ll try to go back and re-read things, but right now I don’t have a read at all. I welcome other’s analysis here.
Visorslash: He has been much more quiet this game than in the past. He has not been doing much analysis, or really working to lead the discussion. Granted lately he has been somewhat less active overall in other games we are in, so this could be a null-tell.[/b]
Lazy: I believe he has been consistently wrong in every case he has made this game. He has also been pretty upfront about making sure that we all know this. He has either been really unlucky, or hasn’t actually been “wrong” at all and is conscious about the perception of never being right being a scum tell. Constantly talking about always being wrong could be an attempt to defray this line of thinking.
Overall I am leaning more towards unvote; vote: Lazy being one of the scummers, but Visor is still not out of the woods in my opinion.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 15:50
I like Visorslash's analysis.
Here's mine:
vote: visorslash Convince me you are not scum. Where is your normal analysis at this stage of the game?
let's use it!
"Convince me you're not scum" = I want to kill you, but if you vote incorrectly and spend a lot of effort to defend yourself, I'll vote along with you.
Either way, I intend to use you to secure my own win.
Meaning BSmith is scum.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 15:54
Ferret is the obvious choice unless yesterdays vote was all subterfuge, but he just seems less scummy to me than BSmith, who is all 'do the right thing' this morning.
I call you on this. If you think BSmith is scummy, then vote him.
I like Visorslash's analysis.
Here's mine:
"Convince me you're not scum" = I want to kill you, but if you vote incorrectly and spend a lot of effort to defend yourself, I'll vote along with you.
Either way, I intend to use you to secure my own win.
Meaning BSmith is scum.
I don’t blame you thinking this. It’s wrong, but I don’t blame you.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 16:05
Supposing Monty's interpretation is correct about the two red eye guys- That means the best that town can do is force a tie.
A tie still wouldn't win the game for the town, even if it were a double lynch. Then it would be 1 v 2 going into a murder round. 1 v 1 for the morning. And a no-lynch wouldn't win the game for the town either.
As such, either the game is already over for the town or you have two shots at a serial killer. I don't believe it is Visorslash. If it's dcmort you can get him tomorrow, and if it's not dcmort then you couldn't lynch the SK anyway tomorrow, so you might just as well lynch dcmort under the "No lurker victories" clause of the Pizzaguy playing manual.
Either way the red eye SK deserves to win, and if it were a mafia team of two then they've basically already won if dcmort is town.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 16:22
Okay, I've thought about it.
Dcmort is inactive scum or inactive townie.
We must therefore assume only 4 votes this round.
Therefore, the only possible way town can win is if there is:
a) A lynch, and
b) No tie vote
Therefore, if someone is placing a second vote on any given candidate, they are creating the eventual 2 versus 2 tie, and are therefore probable scum.
Right now, the vote is tied 1 all.
If you break the second vote rule, I declare you scum, and you die. And if you're town, you are the reason we lose.
Instead of the suspects convincing each other, you convince the jury.
The jury is comprised of dead known townies.
No one places a second vote on anyone unless we say so.
How's that for fair?
LazyMcCrow
02-27-2013, 16:39
I'm interested to see how the Leet Ferret votes now :)
This is hard. We're all becoming victims of our relative inactivity.
vote:Visorslash
Judging by what happened in the Skyrim game, I don't feel BSmith would have made the long post he just did if he was scum.
That leaves Visor and Lazy (unless dcmort is a genius). From what little I've got to go on I'm leaning towards the former. The lack of an analysis post until it was pressured with a vote seems particularly suspicious to me.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 16:46
I'd love to have some other dead townies or living suspects weigh in on this.
Right now without having done any serious analysis I have in order of likelihood/danger to the town:
1. BSmith and Elite Ferret 2 man scum team
2. BSmith and LazyMcCrow 2 man scum team
3. LazyMcCrow and Elite Ferret 2 man scum team
4. BSmith and dcmort 2 man scum team
5. Elite Ferret and dcmort 2 man scum team
6. BSmith serial killer
7. Elite Ferret serial killer
8. dcmort serial killer
9. Visorslash serial killer
10. LazyMcCrow serial killer
11. Some other combination 2 man scum team. I consider this unlikely.
With a lean to call for BSmith's head at the end of the round, but not a solid lock yet.
That's my list. What's yours?
Ah, should have refreshed before I posted, missed those last three posts.
I suppose a no lynch this round could actually work. At the moment we are all suspects so doing nothing means we'll have one less suspect tomorrow but still have the vote advantage that we'd lose by lynching a townie today. I quite like this idea.
unvote; vote:Elite Ferret I guess...
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 16:49
That's an interesting reaction.
My gut tells me to mark off Elite Ferret as a suspected two-man team member because you'd think they'd be coordinating off thread and would have known that I'd be calling for Ferret's head right now since he did that.
Doesn't clear him but makes it harder to say he's on a two man team.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 16:56
If Elite Ferret is not on a two person team then my list of likely suspects goes to:
1. BSmith and LazyMcCrow 2 man scum team
2. BSmith and dcmort 2 man scum team
3. BSmith serial killer
4. Elite Ferret serial killer
5. dcmort serial killer
6. Visorslash serial killer
7. LazyMcCrow serial killer
I don't think Visor and Lazy are on a team based on their behavior toward one another.
Lazy's play does not indicate Serial Killer. It's too aggressive and easy to find fault in it. Easier to explain as town or mafia intentionally causing mischief. That's why I have him dead last for serial killer.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 17:02
Trouble is... a no-lynch this round only wins for town if, and only if, there's a SK and not a 2 man mafia remaining.
EF is quick to embrace the no lynch. It's not what I was advocating for. And it wins for mafia.
On the one hand it's scummy... but on the other hand it shows he was not reading the thread closely.
If he's on a two man team he's got the game sewn up (he's probably not on a team with dcmort if he's also not reading the thread closely) ergo there's no need to read the thread closely, just cause a tie. Then again he's got no reason not to cause a tie if he's on a two man active scum team. The only danger then remaining is the living townies spamming the heck out of dcmort's inbox on other forums to try to get him to wake up, if they overtly out themselves today as a team.
Dunno if I can really cross off Elite Ferret for that. But right there was some genuine reaction of some stripe, and the more of those we have, the better I can analyze.
The key is to be correct in interpreting it. I can usually see things from several angles but sometimes I interpret things incorrectly.
If there is a two man team they have at least a 90% chance of winning now anyway.
I still feel pretty sure that there is just a lone serial killer but as you said I have not been following the thread as closely as usual so I may have missed some compelling evidence otherwise.
But yes, I feel that there is only one scum and that a no lynch today would increase the chance of them being lynched tomorrow.
That's an interesting reaction.
My gut tells me to mark off Elite Ferret as a suspected two-man team member because you'd think they'd be coordinating off thread and would have known that I'd be calling for Ferret's head right now since he did that.
Doesn't clear him but makes it harder to say he's on a two man team.
Not if his partner is dcmort.
IMO, the previous write-up clearly states there are two scum left on the red team.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 17:13
I will freely admit that my posting history this game has been anything but stellar. I have essentially lurked most of the game, and have had little input into the discussion. Now that it is likely the last day I am all of a sudden back in the game and trying to get something done. To top all of this off, I tend to lurk more when I am scum than when I have nothing to lose. I am also still alive after all of these rounds, yet another nail in the coffin.
It certainly doesn’t look good.
I could blame this on a lot of things: I had a death in the family earlier this month, there was a holiday weekend (I am never that active on the weekends anyway due to family commitments), many of the phases just didn’t work out from a timing perspective (ending on weekends, etc.). But the truth is that I just never got into this game. To be honest I haven’t really put that much time or effort into any of the games I have played this past month or so.
I am not proud of this performance. Part of me kept hoping I’d get killed off so I wouldn’t have to worry about it anymore. That has obviously not happened. So here we are. Likely lynch or lose. Likely two scummers left. Good news is that I have a 50% chance of voting for a scum, even if it is random. The flip of a coin.
So here is what I think about the rest of you:
dcmort93: Nothing at all. Due to his complete lack of posting, I have nothing.
Elite Ferret: No opinion one way or another. Part of this is because of my lack of detailed attention to this game. Another part is that I have not played that many games with him, and don’t have a familiar pattern of his play style developed yet. I’ll try to go back and re-read things, but right now I don’t have a read at all. I welcome other’s analysis here.
Visorslash: He has been much more quiet this game than in the past. He has not been doing much analysis, or really working to lead the discussion. Granted lately he has been somewhat less active overall in other games we are in, so this could be a null-tell.[/b]
Lazy: I believe he has been consistently wrong in every case he has made this game. He has also been pretty upfront about making sure that we all know this. He has either been really unlucky, or hasn’t actually been “wrong” at all and is conscious about the perception of never being right being a scum tell. Constantly talking about always being wrong could be an attempt to defray this line of thinking.
Overall I am leaning more towards unvote; vote: Lazy being one of the scummers, but Visor is still not out of the woods in my opinion.
Based on this, and his voting this round only, one can conclude that BSmith's list o suspects looks like this:
Most-least likely:
1) LazyMcCrow on a scum team of 2.
2) Visorslash on a scum team of 2.
3) Elite Ferret on a scum team of 2.
And, given his votes, he probably is accusing:
1) LazyMcCrow and Visorslash of being on a scum team together.
2) LazyMcCrow of being a SK
3) Visorslash of being a SK
BSmith, am I interpreting you correctly? Do you think Lazy and Visor are on a team together? You are assuming a team, after all, and they're your top 2 suspects.
You are therefore willing to lynch either one today instead of yourself. Yes?
EDIT: BSmith, ignore this post. Keep reading.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 17:18
Not if his partner is dcmort.
I had the opposite reaction. I figure if he's got an inactive partner he's at least going to be following the thread very carefully to avoid making mistakes since he's the only one really able to make his team win.
You think it's a very likely scenario he's just gotten extremely lucky, picking who to die correctly without thinking things through?
IMO, the previous write-up clearly states there are two scum left on the red team.
I'm forced to conclude that as well, and as such it feels like this round is a waste of time unless dcmort is scum.
The no-think response is to ask everyone to vote to lynch dcmort today. The no-think part is because it seems like town loses in all scenarios unless dcmort is scum. If he flips townie, how do we feel about that?
There is a tiny, tiny chance town wins if dcmort is town if he becomes active, but that's too little to hope for or play for. Still the mafia might be trying to avoid just plain outing themselves just in case dcmort wakes up.
Do we play against a lurker win, or play lynch the top suspect?
I had the opposite reaction. I figure if he's got an inactive partner he's at least going to be following the thread very carefully to avoid making mistakes since he's the only one really able to make his team win.
You think it's a very likely scenario he's just gotten extremely lucky, picking who to die correctly without thinking things through?
I think you're assuming a level of scum coordination that may not exist. The level of conversation you're talking about is the type of thing people like you and I would be doing in this scenario, but many other people don't communicate as obsessively as we do when we're scum. You could be right, but I wouldn't vote for someone simply because they didn't react in a coordinated manner to some rapid-fire posts today.
I'm forced to conclude that as well, and as such it feels like this round is a waste of time unless dcmort is scum.
The no-think response is to ask everyone to vote to lynch dcmort today. The no-think part is because it seems like town loses in all scenarios unless dcmort is scum. If he flips townie, how do we feel about that?
There is a tiny, tiny chance town wins if dcmort is town if he becomes active, but that's too little to hope for or play for. Still the mafia might be trying to avoid just plain outing themselves just in case dcmort wakes up.
Do we play against a lurker win, or play lynch the top suspect?
The dcmort lynch is certainly a logical one, but it's also boring. I'd prefer to see the town lose after a good day of back and forth debate than win after turning this into an easy vote without any pressure on anyone.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 17:30
I also tend to lean against the boring win.
If dcmort is scum, it's actually more fun to lynch him last because it's still mysterious whether he is or not. Plus, his active partner is more dangerous and needs to go and we should be discussing who the heck that is.
So you'd actually be thinking Ferret because he placed the killing (in this case) vote on Visorslash, and also because he then advocated for a no lynch which would help his team win?
That also works.
I see the logic and would therefore be willing to endorse a Ferret lynch today.
BSmith or Ferret? Both? Or just one, plus morty?
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 17:33
If there is a two man team they have at least a 90% chance of winning now anyway.
I still feel pretty sure that there is just a lone serial killer but as you said I have not been following the thread as closely as usual so I may have missed some compelling evidence otherwise.
But yes, I feel that there is only one scum and that a no lynch today would increase the chance of them being lynched tomorrow.
mmmm...
Yeah. This is very much a pro strategy if Leet and Mort are mates. This post is a clear attempt to get people to think they're safe (no 2 man team about to win today) or lost anyway (too late, might as well give up) when town actually has decent chances if morty is scum.
There is no tomorrow if there's a two man team, which there probably is. Which means this is the strongest single attempt by any post to force a scum win. If Ferret is town, this post is a huge blunder.
BSmith, you should be voting for Elite Ferret. Let's at least get the two top suspects voting for each other. Makes things a bit simpler.
LazyMcCrow
02-27-2013, 17:39
I also tend to lean against the boring win.
If dcmort is scum, it's actually more fun to lynch him last because it's still mysterious whether he is or not. Plus, his active partner is more dangerous and needs to go and we should be discussing who the heck that is.
So you'd actually be thinking Ferret because he placed the killing (in this case) vote on Visorslash, and also because he then advocated for a no lynch which would help his team win?
That also works.
I see the logic and would therefore be willing to endorse a Ferret lynch today.
BSmith or Ferret? Both? Or just one, plus morty?
Ferret is still the towniest of my suspects. His post above actually makes him seem townier not scummier ie. I believe that he hadn't read the post about double voting :shrug: so whats the current tally? My vote on Visor, BSmith on me, Visor on BSmith and Ferret on ...Ferret? I don't see how that benefits town if it stays like that - unless mort shows up. We need to lynch today unvote: Visor vote: BSmith.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 17:43
Scum sometimes vote before reading, especially if the only thing they're concerned with this round is the tally.
Tally was:
Three one-shot votes on non-ferret targets, none on Ferret or dcmort.
His move was a no brainer if he's scum.
But, I had already stated that the person who places the killing vote without authorization is scum. So he blundered.
I'm not saying I'm 100% certain he's scum, but there is strong evidence to suggest that he's acting exactly as he would if he and dcmort are scum mates.
Everything that has happened so far follows that line. There is no exonerating evidence on Elite Ferret. In fact, the argument you use to exonerate him is the same argument I can use to incriminate. That means it is a null tell.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 17:48
No, I am feeling it.
It's rare that Tincow and I agree, but when we do it's freakin' magic.
I strongly endorse Elite Ferret for the lynch today. His behavior is unambiguously scummier than BSmith's.
There is evidence that he's playing for any lynch today as long as it isn't himself: (voting without reading)
There is evidence that he's playing against the town (repeating the seemingly incorrect serial killer theory, advocating a no lynch today which loses against mafia)
As such, there's actual positive evidence incriminating Ferret.
There's no actual evidence BSmith has done or is doing anything wrong. His votes and vote switches seem more normal. Ferret's do not.
My gut and my brain are in sync. Elite Ferret is the red guy who must die.
Final answer, Regis.
unvote; vote: Elite Ferret
Based on this, and his voting this round only, one can conclude that BSmith's list o suspects looks like this:
Most-least likely:
1) LazyMcCrow on a scum team of 2.
2) Visorslash on a scum team of 2.
3) Elite Ferret on a scum team of 2.
And, given his votes, he probably is accusing:
1) LazyMcCrow and Visorslash of being on a scum team together.
2) LazyMcCrow of being a SK
3) Visorslash of being a SK
BSmith, am I interpreting you correctly? Do you think Lazy and Visor are on a team together? You are assuming a team, after all, and they're your top 2 suspects.
You are therefore willing to lynch either one today instead of yourself. Yes?
Yeah, I’d say that is a pretty good interpretation of my suspect list from earlier today. The one caveat being that I just didn’t have enough read on EF to go one way or the other. I also don’t see the SK only scenario given the write-up explanations, so I discounted that as a possibility.
I am in agreement with you about EF given his posting since then, though.
LazyMcCrow
02-27-2013, 17:59
guts and brains alignment? Zombie Pizza magic? I don't know. The vote without reading didn't seem so scummy to me, but the self vote does smack of panic. If he takes his vote off himself that bring it back to a tie though, so if BSmith is working with EF they can both switch last minute right? atm its a 2 v 2 tie between BSmith and Elite Ferret!
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 18:03
Thanks, BSmith. I appreciate you returning to give us a fighting chance.
Lazy, at this point I think we need to convince you. You'll be forcing the tie, Visor and BSmith versus Elite Ferret, and that's only if I can convince Visorslash to change his vote. And that's only if he comes back.
If you change your vote that makes things simpler.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 18:09
guts and brains alignment? Zombie Pizza magic? I don't know. The vote without reading didn't seem so scummy to me, but the self vote does smack of panic. If he takes his vote off himself that bring it back to a tie though, so if BSmith is working with EF they can both switch last minute right? atm its a 2 v 2 tie between BSmith and Elite Ferret!
If BSmith is scum with EF the game is over and you lost.
For the moment, you've got to discount that possibility and only focus on the games where you win.
Right now, you only win if BSmith is scum and EF is not scum, or EF is scum and BSmith is not scum.
You must choose, and right now, EF is voting for himself and BSmith is voting for EF.
One of them is helping town win. The other is very clearly, and in every possible sense, not.
White_eyes:D
02-27-2013, 18:16
Not if his partner is dcmort.
IMO, the previous write-up clearly states there are two scum left on the red team.
Wait a minute....TinCow has a really good point here. There has only been one red kill since the start of the game. I think dcmort is scum but has been inactive since the start of the game, it explains why there has been two of them but only one red kill each and every night. I feel stupid for not seeing that sooner.:shame:
The safest choice for town would be to lynch dcmort and try and guess who the last scum is next phase but....ATPG and TinCow think it would be boring sooo....:shrug:
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 18:24
Elite Ferret: 2 (Himself, BSmith)
BSmith: 2 (Visorslash, LazyMcCrow)
If Elite Ferret is town and BSmith is scum, all town has to do to win is for Elite Ferret to stop screwing around.
If Elite Ferret is scum and BSmith is town, I need both Visorslash and LazyMcCrow to change their votes, and the situation is more dire.
I'm a pessimist for a reason. Town has to work hard to unravel the knots created by scumbags. Hard work and going against the odds. Making the tough calls, the gut-check guesses, and working as a team.
Especially hard is when its endgame, people are still lost, divided, or inactive.
We do these things "not because they're easy. But because they're hard". John F Kennedy said that.
Kennedy sent peeps to the moon. You guys can send Elite Ferret to the fiery underworld much more easily than that.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 18:45
Also, Destroy the Artifact is the correct choice.
Here we go again...
My last post about the no-lynch relied on there being only one scum left. Apparently the general feeling is that there is two. I've been very busy this past month so I've skim read most of this thread, hardly surprising I missed something.
Lynch me and the town will lose.
Therefore I will:
unvote; vote:BSmith
I'm still not sure why Visor and Lazy are suddenly assumed innocents though...
I would be voting for EF at this moment. EF's posts today seem like he's just happy to skate along and do whatever as long as it's not him. He's so into survival that he's actually voted for himself on the basis of attempting a No Lynch on a day when a No Lynch almost certainly guarantees a town loss. That's not someone who's really trying to win this as town.
I admit I haven't been paying any attention at all for the last several days, so these comments are based strictly on today's posts. If there are reasons for voting for other people based on behavior in previous days, I am not taking it into account and that should be weighed accordingly.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 18:54
Anyone but you, eh F?
Lynch me and the town will lose.
Not just the town, the villages too. And the big cities. Indeed, the entire land will go up in smoke.
Candy Land, that is.
My last post about the no-lynch relied on there being only one scum left.
Explain how a No Lynch helps the town even if that were true.
LazyMcCrow
02-27-2013, 18:59
k. I'm going to go with pizza on this cause he pulled the JFK moon card. I'll check back later to see who has slithered in which direction. unvote: vote: Elite Ferret
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 19:04
k. I'm going to go with pizza on this cause he pulled the JFK moon card.
Ask not what Town can do for you. Ask what you can do for Town.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2013, 19:09
Elite Ferret: 2 (BSmith, LazyMcCrow)
BSmith: 2 (Visorslash, Elite Ferret)
Current tally.
Monsieur Visorslash, you may now take vengeance on the man who tried to place the killing vote on you earlier this round but is now voting with you to save himself.
Riedquat
02-27-2013, 19:13
Nothing like a read of an inspired Atpg to get your head spinning! I've lost track somewhere, so is the consensus EF and dcmort are our men?
so is the consensus EF and dcmort are our men?
That is my opinion, which means it's probably wrong. The dcmort assumption is based on the notion that the red team have only been killing one per night due to an inactive dcmort. It certainly looks like the yellow mafia were restricted to one kill per person, not a set number per team. We had two yellow mafia kills on N1, which is probably the only night when they had two alive at the same time (as Jarema was likely recruited when Arjos got lynched to make up for the hosting error that led to the Arjos lynch). Every other night phase we have had only one kill (or attempted kill) by the yellows and only one by the reds. N1 proves that the yellows were perfectly happy to kill two at once when there were two of them alive. The fact that they never did again after N1 is pretty strong evidence that they were restricted to only a single kill every night after that. That means that the number of kills were restricted to the number of players alive, which is consistent with a system that requires each mafioso to submit their own kills each night, which would similarly hamstring a team with an inactive member.
That said, in such a scenario it's also common for hosts to allow the active mafioso to submit orders for their inactive partner, which would undermine the argument and make the entire kill number analysis pointless. It also assumes that the red and yellow teams had the same rules for kills, when it's also possible that yellow was bound to kills by numbers, but red was restricted to only one kill regardless.
Anyone but you, eh F?
I want the scum to be lynched, I know I am not scum but cannot say the same for anyone else. So yes, anyone but me.
Explain how a No Lynch helps the town even if that were true.
Because if we were to lynch someone in this round we would have a 1/4 chance of lynching the serial killer (ignoring dcmort). If we got it wrong a townie would be lynched today and another killed tonight leaving just one active townie in the final day phase. That would lead to a no lynch unless by some miracle dcmort showed up and voted for the right person. A no lynch or a wrong dcmort vote would result in a serial killer victory.
If we didn't lynch anyone tonight then the serial killer would have to either kill off dcmort (which wouldn't change the game much at all at this point) or kill one of the other suspects. That would mean in the next day phase there would be two active townies and the serial killer. This would increase the odds of lynching the right guy to 1/3 as well as mean each player would only have to analyse two others in order to find the guilty party. In my opinion this would make it much more likely that the serial killer was lynched, rather than another townie.
I know it's pretty crazy but that was my thinking if there was only one scum player left.
So... Gumdrop and Buttons. All write-ups since night 4 have actually indicated two red killers.
What about this "no lynch"? Have you forgotten “CHAOTIX CHANCE TIME!!!”
The Gameroomers could see six clearly defined sections on the roulette wheel. There was writing on each panel, which was as follows:
1. MONTMORENCY AND MAKRELL BOTH LIVE!!!
2. MAKRELL DIES!!!
3. MONTMORENCY DIES!!!
4. MONTMORENCY AND MAKRELL BOTH DIE!!!
5. SOMEBODY ELSE ENTIRELY DIES!!!
6. SUPER DELUXE MYSTERY EVENT!!!
Riedquat
02-27-2013, 19:48
So... Gumdrop and Buttons. All write-ups since night 4 have actually indicated two red killers.
What about this "no lynch"? Have you forgotten “CHAOTIX CHANCE TIME!!!”
:no: aww... why spoil the fun of the dead? :laugh4:
So... Gumdrop and Buttons. All write-ups since night 4 have actually indicated two red killers.
On reread, you are correct. Two people on each red kill from N5 onwards, though some are more blatant about it than others.
White_eyes:D
02-27-2013, 21:43
I think town is done in that case then. Both BSmith and EF need a lynch for doing all that scummy stuff they have been doing.:mean:
Either they are both innocent or both guilty, because I can't see how they are scum other then having an inactive scum buddy.:shrug:
The presence of both in the write-ups doesnt necessarily mean that both are active and submitting orders. As I noted above, it's common for hosts to allow active players to submit orders for inactive mafia partners. If the red team were capable of killing two per night, perhaps with independent orders, they could have won the game by doing so last night, as that would have resulted in, at worst, a 2-2 tie today, making them unlynchable.
White_eyes:D
02-27-2013, 21:58
Safest thing to do in that case would be to tie it up and hope both of them get lynched...and if the game continues without any kills, we know dcmort is the last scumbag.:book:
Edit: In fact, if anyone breaks the tie you know they are scum. Good part of all this is that we don't know when the round well end...something like Visorslashs ninja vote last round well only stick out like a sore thumb.:bounce:
Gaius Scribonius Curio
02-27-2013, 22:21
Tying it up and hoping for the best is a worse option than simply lynching one suspect - tie creates a 1/6 chance of two lynches, 1/3 chance of a suspect being lynched, and 1/2 chance of something else entirely (2/3 of which will automatically be bad for the town)
On a sidenote: destroy the artifact and lynch Elite Ferret.
Tally me banana:
Elite (Lazy, Bsmith, Visor)
BSmith (Elite)
Unvote; Vote: Elite Ferret
I agree with the (lengthy) analysis posted here. BSmith has come out of the woodwork, but I'm not feeling what he is saying rings scum to me anymore. If he is, then that was a great effort to get the attention off of you and well done. But the way ferret has acted, I agree that the best chance for our scummer that is active is Elite, hence my vote. I'm not going to do a WeW and not show up like last game.
Death or glory.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 00:14
I note that it would have been possible for two active scumbags to tie it up at any point this round if dcmort was a townie.
The fact that we have 3 votes on a given candidate AND the candidate in question was not the first choice of anyone, tells me that town is actually in control of this lynch. (Note: Meaning that the scumbags did not succeed in getting either their first or second target lynched. That alone improves town's chances of being correct)
The alternative is that the 2 scums are voting together with one townie against Elite Ferret, which was the likely outcome anyway given that we can't outvote them.
As such, I'd call this outcome the best possible based on what we know. Obviously we could be wrong but in no other scenario would I be this optimistic about our chances.
You are making the wrong decision guys.
Remember in Jarema's game when you became convinced I was scum but then I flipped innocent? The same thing is about to happen here.
It seems that I come across as a townie when I'm scum and scummy when I'm a townie.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 00:45
You are making the wrong decision guys.
Remember in Jarema's game when you became convinced I was scum but then I flipped innocent? The same thing is about to happen here.
It seems that I come across as a townie when I'm scum and scummy when I'm a townie.
Your first choice was Visorslash.
It was not like pulling teeth to get two people to lynch him. In fact, yourself, BSmith, and Lazy all voted for him at one point. That's every active player besides Visorslash himself.
How much does a townie wager it's going to be that simple on a round with 2 scumbags left? They don't have to bus a partner here.
Visor was clearly innocent based on his lack of an attempt to steer people his way. He opened with the OMGUS, and his "analysis" was putting a vote to BSmith rather than acting like he cared about what happened next. Cool as a cucumber and also clearly acting independently of anyone else in the game. If he's the SK, he put on a great and winning performance because he's the first guy I marked off as innocent this round. Don't know where y'all were at when you decided he was guilty but hey, difference of opinion. Visor was left alive because everyone was willing to lynch him.
LazyMcCrow, a bit iffy due to his mistaken finger pointing. I could see him as part of an active two man team but that's not the case, because he was willing to kill pretty much anyone this round, so if he had an active partner he was willing to kill that person, needlessly. If he was the only active person out of a two man team then he drew a lot of attention to himself. My theory is he is townie and made every effort to find the scums but failed to do so. He was left alive because he was a target and he kept missing the correct target.
BSmith could easily have been guilty, and I've gotten bad reads on him numerous times. He looked townie this round because he, like the others, was willing to lynch anyone, and he was also willing to keep the vote count low. He displayed no eagerness or rush to tie the vote up, and actively accused and voted for people. Early. Taking the risks and causing the discussion to move forward. Who didn't do that, who was the outlier?
The outlier was the guy who did not act with aggression, did not take any risks, and did not behave as if they were trying to help town win the game *this round* which is the only round remaining it's possible for town to finally reverse course.
The guy who voted before reading the situation carefully, who wagoned Visorslash, and whose response to stepping in it was to self vote rather than try to solve the game.
You were willing to follow whoever we voted for, but were not willing to take the risk and make the first move. Your suggested courses of action would have doomed the town and further, continued to misdirect people into thinking there was a SK remaining and that we could afford a no lynch.
You were also the target that nobody wanted to vote for at first, which means that, the outcome of this round was not a mafia suggestion, the lynch choice came from the town, and that also means that the mafia suggested the deaths of Visorslash and BSmith today, and neither event occurred.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 01:18
Of note: Visorslash and Elite Ferret both mentioned dcmort's inactivity and both suggested courses of action which would leave him alive.
No one else paid any attention to dcmort, and at this point I think it's quite clear that either dcmort is guilty or this entire round was a farce that town couldn't have won anyway.
So, we either lynch the active scum today and win tomorrow with the dcmort lynch, having not taken the boring lynch dcmort first path, or we lynch a townie and congratulate Visorslash on a game well played. I'll also be charging him for my services as lawyer.
I read the situation carefully enough and decided Visorslash seemed the most guilty to me. The only reason I changed that vote was because I had seen the idea of a no lynch briefly mentioned in your post that appeared whilst I was writing my previous post. Obviously that part was a mistake because of two awful flaws: ties didn't mean a no lynch and there is more than one scum player left.
Having realised that I no longer 'misdirected' the town, all I have done is explained my previous thinking to TC and voted out of self preservation.
Had I been online before BSmith I would have been happy to make the first move, the fact that he voted and accused people first in no way attests to his innocence.
I know none of this will make any difference at this point, it's just a shame for the town to lose like this.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 01:35
I see no shame in it.
What would have been shameful is a tied vote or a listless discussion phase or a lack of activity or voting. This round has been among the more interesting endings we've experienced.
Being wrong in a guessing game is part of the game. And if it is Visorslash plenty of folks get to say I told you so and I get to take most of the heat for the loss.
I don't think we're wrong. But I agree with you wholeheartedly Pizza. I went to bed expecting two votes, little to no discussion and me to be lynched. When I woke up and checked the thread, it was a pleasant surprise. I'm annoyed that I never get to actually discuss anything with people before it is too late, due to timezones.
And yes, this round ending has been very interesting, even if I wasn't there to participate.
As you say, being wrong is part of the game. What would've been a shame if this never happened. Town loses, mafia wins, mafia loses, town wins. It changes from game to game. The only shame is non-participation. Losing should not be shameful, at least not in this context.
Montmorency
02-28-2013, 01:53
:laugh4:
He flat-out admitted his guilt.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 02:00
:laugh4:
He flat-out admitted his guilt.
Who did, where?
The only shame is non-participation.
QFT
The ghost of choxorn attempts to find some objects in the wreckage that he can use to spell out "TL;DR"
Quite surprised I wasn't metagamed after what happened Night 1.
It's been great killing you all though. Always enjoy that.
EDIT: Day is now over.
Yep. Last writeup was at 12:32 my time. It is now 12:39 my time.
It was 9:32 pm when Chaotix did the writeup (in his timezone) and it is 9:39 pm now.
Montmorency
02-28-2013, 03:43
I suspected you since N1/D2.
I suspected you since N1/D2.
I thought so. :laugh4: I just couldn't resist it.
Montmorency
02-28-2013, 03:45
At least now I can claim that the town was doomed from the moment of my death.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 04:15
Quite surprised I wasn't metagamed after what happened Night 1.
It's been great killing you all though. Always enjoy that.
EDIT: Day is now over.
Blows kisses at Visorslash.
Round over.
Elite Ferret has been lynched.
Standby for write-up.
DAY 9
From the destroyed lobby of the Hexagon, the team of five plus one Foreman headed straight for the elevators, now completely unguarded. More than a few dead Coldenskians littered the floors, so they had to tread carefully. It was a perfect opportunity for them to pick up some weapons, however.
When they were inside the elevator (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koAnijvXHcs), they surveyed their options. There were buttons covering all the walls – some with labels and some without, but far too many to count. The team looked on in bewilderment. LazyMcCrow scratched his chin.
“Hmm… something doesn’t add up here. Aha! I’ve got it.”
Foreman Chaotix jammed his finger on a button labeled “Base 16”. Upon doing this, most of the other buttons disappeared and the rest rearranged themselves into a more familiar format. There were buttons for floors 1 through 6 and for basements B1 through B5, as well as the other usual sorts of buttons you might find on an elevator.
“The only logical place to keep a secret mind-control artifact would be an underground bunker. Let’s head to B5 and then try to find an entrance from there.”
“Good thinking, Elite Ferret. B5 it is.”
When they arrived on B5, they were immediately greeted with Coldenski guns. The team hid around the side of the elevator, while BSmith tossed in a grenade, blowing away all the resistance. The fact that there were any of them, though, suggested that Elite Ferret’s thinking was correct.
They continued down the hall, checking corners carefully and looking for anything suspicious. Eventually they came across a small, empty room. Inside were two soldiers standing guard. Visorslash took a closer look.
“What are they guarding? The room is empty… except for that poster.”
Indeed, there was a poster on the wall immediately behind the guards. LazyMcCrow scratched his chin.
“Time to find out.”
Two well-placed shots dropped the guards.
“What’s so important about this poster, anyway?”
It was the typical kind of Coldenski propaganda – an image of a fat businessman from the Republic with robot slaves cooking a lavish feast for him while a poor Coldenski family starves just outside his door.
“This is dirty collectivist nonsense!”
Offended, Elite Ferret ripped the poster off of the wall. Behind it was a large red button. Upon pressing it, the wall collapsed, revealing a secret staircase behind it.
“Stupid Coldenskis. Who guards something supposed to stay hidden?”
They began to make their way down the stairs.
“dcmort, stay here and watch our backs. Radio if there’s any trouble.”
dcmort93, who was asleep standing up, responded by collapsing against a nearby wall and sliding slowly to the ground. He started to drool.
“Good enough.”
The staircase led out into a wide open room, covered in shiny black tile. It was completely empty. A metal bulkhead slammed shut behind them, trapping them in. A timer appeared on a great screen on the wall and began counting down.
The metal face of Robo-Premier Boltschev appeared behind the timer and began to jeer at them.
“VELCOME TO YOU, CAPITALIST DOGS. THIS IS VHERE YOU VILL BE HAVINK YOUR FINAL MOMENTS. AT THE END OF THIS COUNTDOWN, YOU VILL BE WATCHING AS THE ENTIRE VORLD WILL BE HAVINK REJOICE. THE SPACE VHALE ARTIFACT, SAFE ON THE ROOF OF THE HEXAGON, VILL BRING COLLECTIVISM TO ALL PEOPLES. AND THIS ROOM VILL BE FILLINK WITH BULLETS! HAHAHAHAHA!”
BSmith panicked.
“We’re trapped here! This was a trap!”
“It certainly seems that way.”
LazyMcCrow scratched his chin.
“If we got trapped, that means they knew we were coming.”
Visorslash seemed to have an idea.
“That means someone must have told them – another Coldenski spy! I bet it’s the same person who led us down here!”
They all turned to look at Elite Ferret, who had remained silent.
“The penalty for treason is death.”
Suddenly, the Ghost of Choxorn appeared.
"Don't do it! He's innocent! Come on guys, listen to me!"
Of course, nobody saw or heard the ghost of Choxorn, because he is a ghost and not able to directly contact the living. He disappeared in a ghostly poof, disappointed.
“No! It’s not what it looks like, I swear it! I had no idea this was down here, I just thought they would have an underground base!”
Visorslash fired. Elite Ferret dropped to the ground, a bullet through his traitorous heart.
“Now that we’ve taken care of the traitor, it’s time to find a way to stop this countdown and retrieve the artifact…”
BEGIN NIGHT 9
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Alive: 5
BSmith - Is freaking out.
dcmort93 - Is sleeping through the action.
LazyMcCrow - Is scratching his chin.
Visorslash - Is looking a little trigger happy...
Foreman Chaotix - Is in for one hell of a ride.
Not Alive: 22
Choxorn - Should've said he was a witch.
Zack - Will probably be reincarnated as a Space Whale.
The King - Is probably wishing he was still called Ibn Khaldun.
Darth Feather - Never liked licorice much anyway.
Montmorency - Is probably medium-rare right about now.
Makrell - Is in sweet, sweet heaven.
TinCow - Shouldn't have lost his head in that argument.
Arjos - He may be dead, but his legacy lives on...
Ishmael - Is between a rock and a hot place. Actually, he is between two hot molten rocks. Or actually it could be three.
Double A - Swam in so much sugar he got the bends.
Jolt - Has been put on ice.
Askthepizzaguy - His maniacal plans have been foiled.
Ironside - Victim of a post-hijacking.
robbiecon - Endured horrors so terrible they could not be shown in this programme.
Gaius Scribonius Curio - They say you are what you eat, but he never did eat his vegetables.
edse - Should've listened to the rules.
autolycus - Snacked out, then bit the bullet.
Jarema - Is now the engine of Republican victory.
Riedquat - They took his life, but not his dignity.
White_eyes:D - Forgot to bring a parachute.
Csargo - FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM!
Elite Ferret - Was a dirty, cowardly collectivist to the bitter end?
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 06:20
Elite Ferret - Was a dirty, cowardly collectivist to the bitter end?
The white question mark shows up pretty brightly on guild skin.
The white question mark shows up pretty brightly on guild skin.
Use Morbid skin then, smart guy. It works with that one.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 06:31
What has been seen cannot be un-seen.
NIGHT 9
The four of them searched all over the room, but they couldn’t find anything resembling a false panel or an off switch to the timer. LazyMcCrow was tired of looking, and the timer was almost out.
“Forget this! Let’s just blow open the door!”
They grabbed all the grenades they had brought, pulled the pins, and piled them up. Then they dived out of the way. The metal bulkhead was blasted open by the sheer force of the explosion. They rushed for the stairs. Panels began to open up on the walls. As soon as they had escaped they heard the machine guns start to fire.
At the top of the landing, dcmort93 was still snoozing on the floor.
“dcmort! Wake up!”
dcmort93 did not wake up.
“Come on, dcmort! We need you!”
dcmort93 did not respond. Foreman Chaotix moved closer.
“Damn it!”
On closer inspection, dcmort93 was not snoozing. He was dead. On the back of his neck, they found a tiny dart. It was labeled “LIQUID MARSHMALLOW”.
The team continued without him to the elevator. Once inside, BSmith pushed the button marked “6” and they prepared for the ride up.
When they arrived on the top floor, they rushed straight for the staircase to the roof, bowling through any Coldenski guards in the way. At the top, the Robo-Premier was waiting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdy9-4KiEo). He stood next to a large antenna, messing with a control panel. At the base of the antenna was the Space Whale artifact. LazyMcCrow scratched his chin.
“AHA HA HA HA! I VELCOME YOU AGAIN, CAPITALIST DOGS. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE BEEN ESCAPINK MY LITTLE TRAPS. BUT YOU VILL NEVER BE TAKINK MY ARTIFACT. YOU VILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME FIRST!”
Boltschev’s arms turned into gatling guns and began firing. The team all dove for cover. They tried to return fire, but the bullets just bounced off of his metal body.
“HA HA HA HA! YOU VILL HAVE TO BE DOINK BETTER THAN THAT!”
“Try this on for size, bolts-for-brains!”
Foreman Chaotix dived out of cover and fired a rocket launcher straight at the Robo-Premier. The slow robot had no time to move and took the blast head-on, knocking off his chest-plater. With the Robo-Premier stunned momentarily and his inner workings exposed, Visorslash ran up with his combat knife and slashed away.
“NO! YOU VILL NEVER STOP THE RI-RISE OF COLL-OLL-OLLECTIVISM. N-NOOOoooo….”
The Robo-Premier fell to the floor with a loud clank.
“Great job, Visorslash. Now we just need to get that artifac-HURK!”
Looking back at the Foreman, they realized he had been riddled with bullet holes in his lower torso. He must have been caught by Boltschev’s machine guns when he ran out of cover. BSmith looked worried.
“Chief! Hold still! You’re gonna be okay! We’ll get you out of here!”
“Don’t worry about me! Visorslash, get the artifact…”
Visorslash picked up the Space Whale Artifact... and then his face fell off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjGgfZ8JkyA).
Behind it was another face, but it was different. Flat, and brown, and with globs of red frosting for his eyes and his mouth. A sadistic grin stretched across his Gingerbread face.
“Why, hello everyone. I don’t believe we’ve met. My name is Gumdrop! Mwehehehe!”
The three of them gasped. LazyMcCrow scratched his chin.
“No… that’s impossible! We caught the traitor… Elite Ferret… we caught him.”
At that moment, LazyMcCrow’s head burst open, revealing underneath another Gingerbread face with a giant, gaping maw. The Gingerbread Man’s mouth closed over BSmith’s head, tearing it straight off his shoulders with rows and rows of sharp teeth.
“I’m afraid you are mistaken, dear Foreman. You see, Buttons here was just using his Klondike bar to make it seem like Elite Ferret was the traitor. After all… he would have done anything for that Klondike bar, had he recognized its influence. And with all the space in this realistic human-masks, he fit it right under his chin…”
Chaotix looked on in horror through his gas mask as the two Gingerbread Men stared him down.
“Now, my dear Foreman. You shall be the first to see your world conquered by the Pastry Empire of Candy Land! This world belongs to us!”
“No! You can’t! The worlds must remain separate…”
“Buttons, be a dear and attach this quaint little Space Whale Artifact to your Klondike Bar. With their combined powers, all the disgusting humans of this world shall be directly under our control. Mwehehehe!”
Buttons did as he was told. A bubblegum-pink horizon spread across the world of Nuke Land…
VICTORY: GINGERBREAD MEN!
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 07:18
Nice. Well played. Was a lot of fun.
Congrats flawless winners and our esteemed host.
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2013, 07:34
Links to quicktopics and such, post game come on come on.
Some people are sugar junkies and others just want to pick your braaaiinnnnnsssss
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/KqquLRKkr3rCq
Not much of interest.
Thanks for the game Chaotix, I had a lot of fun. Thanks to Lazy for being a great teammate as well.
Also waiting for postgame.
Good game Visorslash and Lazy.
Also, I blame you ATPG. :tongue:
LATER THAT NIGHT
The SWAT team burst in through the gates of Mafia Land to the compound just beyond. They kicked down the front door.
Inside was a somewhat non-descript room; at one end was an elevator.
“It’s this way. Follow me.”
Choxorn led them to the elevator. When the door opened up, they saw that the inside was covered in drawn-on buttons in ridiculous places with ridiculous names. There was only one button that worked, and it went down to the basement.
The elevator opened up to a room with a giant TV screen on the wall. The screen was off. In one corner a green pipe-shaped doorway lead out.
The pipe-shaped doorway took them to a very large room. Choxorn stopped them before they entered.
“Better put on the gas masks now.”
The room was full of gears and pulleys and movable cardboard walls painted with strange scenery.
They found a vent. This was the source of a strange smell.
“Hallucinogenic mushroom gas.”
“Is that what it was? Makes sense. It all looked so real...”
As they continued in toward the center of the room, another smell became apparent – death. Approximately 25 dead bodies were strewn across the room, killed in gruesome ways and in varying states of decay.
“What kind of psycho could do something like this?”
“After I came to my senses, I hid out in the TV room for about a week. I was only able to get out when they came back to the elevator – the host had the keys, but I managed to snatch them off him. Luckily there was a lot of candy down here, too…”
In the center they found the two survivors.
They were both laughing manaically. One had blood dripping from his mouth, the other just drool. They were sitting on the floor holding a couple of gingerbread men, which they were making motions with and playing with, as if they were dolls. One of them held a melted Klondike bar with a rock lodged in it, and was waving it about excitedly.
“Poor guys… they look even crazier than the rest of them did.”
A few feet away was the body of the suspect. Known only as “Chaotix”, he had been on the run for about a year after a string of murders at a Star Trek convention. He had pulled the same thing there, too – drugged the victims and pretended he was the AI on a space ship, then led them on a “journey” in which all but one of them died.
“He tried to shoot me the first day, but he missed. I pretended to be dead, and the rest just sort of didn’t realize, I guess. He may have had that gas mask the whole time but he had to be on some other kind of drugs. Either that or just plain crazy.”
The team carried the two survivors out on stretchers, and then they shut down Mafia Land for good.
The two survivors are currently in rehabilitation. A medical inspection has found LSD in their systems as well as the mushroom gas present in all the other victims. Curiously, one of the survivors – known by his friends as “Visorslash”, was also the lone survivor of the previous incident. The other, known as “LazyMcCrow”, appears to be unrelated.
One thing is for sure: they will have quite a story to tell, if they remember any of it.
THANK YOU FOR PLAYING!!
VICTORIOUS: 2
LazyMcCrow/Buttons - Has a stomach ache... and not from the sugar.
Visorslash/Gumdrop - Is ready for round 3?
Alive: 1
Choxorn - Is as quiet as a ghost.
Not Alive: 24
Zack - Will probably be reincarnated as a Space Whale.
The King - Is probably wishing he was still called Ibn Khaldun.
Darth Feather - Never liked licorice much anyway.
Montmorency - Is probably medium-rare right about now.
Makrell - Is in sweet, sweet heaven.
TinCow - Shouldn't have lost his head in that argument.
Arjos - He may be dead, but his legacy lives on...
Ishmael - Is between a rock and a hot place. Actually, he is between two hot molten rocks. Or actually it could be three.
Double A - Swam in so much sugar he got the bends.
Jolt - Has been put on ice.
Askthepizzaguy - His maniacal plans have been foiled.
Ironside - Victim of a post-hijacking.
robbiecon - Endured horrors so terrible they could not be shown in this programme.
Gaius Scribonius Curio - They say you are what you eat, but he never did eat his vegetables.
edse - Should've listened to the rules.
autolycus - Snacked out, then bit the bullet.
Jarema - Is now the engine of Republican victory.
Riedquat - They took his life, but not his dignity.
White_eyes:D - Forgot to bring a parachute.
Csargo - FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM!
Elite Ferret - Was not a dirty, cowardly collectivist to the bitter end.
dcmort93 - Slept through the whole 'trip'.
BSmith - Is feeling rather light-headed.
Chaotix - Is dead?
TO BE CONTINUED?
Oh, thanks for hosting Chaotix. I enjoyed this game immensely, especially the write-ups.
LazyMcCrow
02-28-2013, 08:18
*Burrrp*
Coldensk Agents Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/X3km3JVn4vgi
Gingerbread Men Quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/KqquLRKkr3rCq
Darth Feather
02-28-2013, 09:01
Well done Evil Candycanes. Thanks for hosting Chaotix (very nice Write-ups).
A pity I died on N1.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
02-28-2013, 09:07
Thanks Chaotix for hosting - certainly an interesting experience!
Congrats to Lazy and Visorslash on a well-played game...
LazyMcCrow
02-28-2013, 09:49
Well done Evil Candycanes. Thanks for hosting Chaotix (very nice Write-ups).
A pity I died on N1.
It was a pity. Worst thing that could have happened for the games sake. Thanks to Chaotix for being a great host. I hope I learned alot this time around. As I said in the QT, and I'm not sure if it is clear to everyone, when either Visor or I were killed the remaining gingerbread man could kill 2 per night, so once White_Eyes:D was lynched there was really no chance of us losing - this afforded me the luxury of being as much of an ass as I wanted to (in the game) - a gift horse I was not about to look in the mouth :)
Thanks to Visor for being an excellent Scum-mate and mentor!
Well played both scum teams, and thanks for the hosting Chaotix! You pulled off the choose your own adventure idea with style.
Riedquat
02-28-2013, 13:51
Ewww...this didn't end as expected... I blame the council of dead townies! Those defending Visor first! :P
Congratulations sweet men!!
Great write ups Chaotix, thanks for hosting! :bow:
Well done scum! A smoother finish I have rarely seen. Quite impressive. :bow:
I'll take some small solace that my two initial top suspects were correct. Not that it mattered anyway.
Congrats guys. :bow:
Well played Gingerbread men. At what point did you recruit ATPG? :clown:
Thanks for hosting, Chaotix!
Achievement unlocked: Play such an entertaining ghost that the host officially recognizes your ghostiness and puts you in the final updates.
White_eyes:D
02-28-2013, 22:12
Well played Gingerbread men. At what point did you recruit ATPG? :clown:
From what I could tell...he just wanted town to lose.:laugh4:
Good job Lazy/Visor, I only suspected you two far too late.:shame:
thank you for the game, Chaotix and fellow players
and...
I love to hate you, Visor, for what you are doing to me every second game where I am mafia :bow:
Double A
03-01-2013, 04:52
Visor, you realize you're going to be lynched D1 next Chaotix game, right?
Visor, you realize you're going to be lynched D1 next Chaotix game, right?
Yes, unfortunately
thank you for the game, Chaotix and fellow players
and...
I love to hate you, Visor, for what you are doing to me every second game where I am mafia :bow:
I'll take that as a compliment. :laugh4:
Seriously though, Lazy did a really good job in deflecting attention. He played really well.
Visorslash Did you do this intentionally?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?143402-Choose-Your-Own-Adventure-Mafia-Concluded&p=2053510118&viewfull=1#post2053510118
The tally?
Well I posted the tally intentionally, but I left the parentheses open because I was (in truth) lazy.
No, moving yourself down a few spots from the other people with two votes.
No, moving yourself down a few spots from the other people with two votes.
Oh, that. I don't believe I did so intentionally.
Where's the postgame essay Chaotix? :laugh4:
Anyway, I don't know if I have said it, but once again, great writeups, really well done and as I said earlier, I loved the tie ins to the first game.
Also, as I said before we won, thanks to those that showed up in the final day to make it really interesting.
Where's the postgame essay Chaotix? :laugh4:
Anyway, I don't know if I have said it, but once again, great writeups, really well done and as I said earlier, I loved the tie ins to the first game.
Also, as I said before we won, thanks to those that showed up in the final day to make it really interesting.
Haha, I am afraid I don't have nearly enough time to do a post-game essay for this one.
Anyway, thanks to everyone for the compliments; I enjoyed hosting this game as much as (I hope) you enjoyed playing it.
A couple of interesting notes/facts:
-This game had just as many posts as Pirate Ninja Robot Zombie Mafia IN SPACE, but only half of the total page-views.
-I had decided by about Day 2 that I was going to have that twist ending (i.e. it wasn't real and you were all on drugs). For that reason I threw in a bunch of clues along the way hinting toward that. The most obvious is Foreman Chaotix's gas mask, mentioned nearly every write-up- take a look and see if you can find the others.
-There's also a sequel hook, but it's difficult to spot.
-As you can see via the quicktopics, that messed up write-up that got Arjos lynched was more or less totally my fault. I think afterwards Jarema had about as much chance to win as Arjos did if I hadn't made the mistake, but I still feel terrible about it obviously.
-This is probably obvious now, but the only roles in the game were the two scum teams. The Coldenskians had two kills until one died and their kills dropped to one. The Gingerbreads had one kill unless one died and then their kills would jump up to two. If I had done this game again, I probably would have given the Coldenskians three members to start.
-This is also probably obvious, but the story choices never had any effect on the actual game - only the story. Even the second Bingo game, had you chosen to go for it, wouldn't have ended the game - I had a contingency plan to "kill" you all, and then the game would continue for a few rounds in Underworld Land until you managed to win your lives back. Another planned story arc: had you gone west to Greener Pastures instead of Snow Man's Land, you would have wound up in a pastiche of Animal Farm. I was a little disappointed that never made it into the game.
That's about all I can remember to say about this one. If you have any questions, ask away.
-As you can see via the quicktopics, that messed up write-up that got Arjos lynched was more or less totally my fault. I think afterwards Jarema had about as much chance to win as Arjos did if I hadn't made the mistake, but I still feel terrible about it obviously.
things like that happens. Do not feel sorry too much, you hosted a wonderful game. If small mistakes were to stop you from hosting, that would be something bad
If it makes you feel any better my vote on Arjos had absolutely nothing to do with the write-up mistake.
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