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Shaka_Khan
02-07-2013, 08:25
I'm impressed at the number of highly qualified members in this forum. We have doctors and teachers in here. This forum is where I read the most intelligent debates on the internet. I'm sure that when it comes to unsurmountable obstacles, Totalwar.org members are the ones who can find a way. Posting this message on this forum already alleviates my concern.

The obstacle in my case involves a young lady in her mid-20s who works at the lobby of our building. She is an information assistant. I have never been attracted to a woman as much as I am to her. I look at her everytime I pass by her. Sometimes she looks at me, but I can't tell how she thinks of me. Once I got face to face with her suddenly when the elevator door opened between us. She looked and smiled at me beautifully. I got nervous and didn't say a word to her. The problem is that I don't know her, and I've never spoken to her. There are security guards who stand in the lobby. I'm a tall dude, but I'm skinny. These security guards are around my height and yet they're buff! I fear that she'd report me to those security guards if I talk to her in the wrong way.

Let's say that you're attracted to her as much as I am. What would you do?

Fragony
02-07-2013, 10:09
Well have some casual conversations first, tease with your eyes

SwordsMaster
02-07-2013, 11:32
Just stop one time and say something along the lines of 'Hi, I keep bumping into you, so I thought I'd introduce myself so we can at least say 'hello' properly.' If you follow that up with 'Khello, my name is Inigo Montoya.' You get extra points.

Kadagar_AV
02-07-2013, 11:34
Well, I for one would walk up and say, "Hello, my name is [insert name]. I must say that I think You are the most beautiful girl I have seen in my life, may I ask You out for a coffee some day?"

I never seen the need to make things more complicated than that.

Fragony
02-07-2013, 11:55
But you are a Swedish ski-teacher you are prey.

But anyhow, charm comes kinda naturally to me, I have no idea why but women like me. Key is laughing with your eyes when embarking in casual conversation I think. Just talk and be interesting.

Hax
02-07-2013, 12:00
In this thread: people on the internet telling eachother how good they are with women.

Fragony
02-07-2013, 12:31
In this thread: people on the internet telling eachother how good they are with women.

I am not kidding, no idea why, but women like me. I have it all the time I am flirted at wherever I go. I am not particulary handsome or well-build, I don't really understand it myself. Not bragging, it's just how it is.

Visor
02-07-2013, 12:36
Just stop one time and say something along the lines of 'Hi, I keep bumping into you, so I thought I'd introduce myself so we can at least say 'hello' properly.' If you follow that up with 'Khello, my name is Inigo Montoya.' You get extra points.

This is definitely a good way to approach it.

HopAlongBunny
02-07-2013, 12:52
SwordsMaster and Kadagar_AV have it right. Introduce yourself, otherwise you become "That odd person always staring at me"

Keep it simple, smile and be polite.

HoreTore
02-07-2013, 13:35
Whenever a female cashier smiles to you, it means she's flirting with you. If she asks you for a bag, that's the codeword for "do me right now in the breakroom".

I assume it's the same with receptionists.

Kralizec
02-07-2013, 13:42
Just follow Swordsmasters advice. If you wait longer, either by trying to come up with some contrived excuse to talk to her or by thinking of the best introduction ever, it will just get more awkward because shes already seen you walk by 1000x times.

Not that this is necessarily going to pay off, just pointing out that waiting too long is a bad idea.

Husar
02-07-2013, 13:44
"Hello, I'm a security advisor and I've entered this building on a daily basis for the past three weeks. I noticed you have not once checked my ID, despite not knowing who I am or whether I'm allowed to enter this building... [optional from here]Say, do you want to keep your job?!?"

Or...turn it around, approach her and say her way of looking at you all the time without saying anything scares you. ~;)
It's correct that it becomes a little awkward not to say anything for a while but that's the fault of both sides IMO, I'm progressive like that.

Oh and don't follow my advice, if you do she'll either have a boyfriend already or just want to be friends.
Then again I never follow my advice myself...chicken...:wall:

SwordsMaster
02-07-2013, 13:51
Whenever a female cashier smiles to you, it means she's flirting with you. If she asks you for a bag, that's the codeword for "do me right now in the breakroom".

I assume it's the same with receptionists.

I like to keep separate bags for cashiers and receptionists. But maybe there's something wrong with me... I might have OCD.

Andres
02-07-2013, 13:53
I was always shy around women.

Then, on a certain night, I simply grabbed the girl that had been driving me crazy for several days, and kissed her.

Now I'm married, I have a child, a job, got a decent haircut and am paying off a mortgage.

HoreTore
02-07-2013, 14:05
I like to keep separate bags for cashiers and receptionists. But maybe there's something wrong with me... I might have OCD.

HAHA!

That's my kind of humour!


I was always shy around women.

Then, on a certain night, I simply grabbed the girl that had been driving me crazy for several days, and kissed her.

Now I'm married, I have a child, a job, got a decent haircut and am paying off a mortgage.

I did the same a few months ago.

I'm still single though, as her boyfriend was making me sandwiches in the kitchen at the time....

SwordsMaster
02-07-2013, 14:10
I was always shy around women.

Then, on a certain night, I simply grabbed the girl that had been driving me crazy for several days, and kissed her.

Now I'm married, I have a child, a job, got a decent haircut and am paying off a mortgage.

So you're saying to go for it, or not to go for it? Nevermind the married bit, but a decent haircut and a mortgage sound scary!

Andres
02-07-2013, 14:12
I did the same a few months ago.

I'm still single though, as her boyfriend was making me sandwiches in the kitchen at the time....

So, you're still single because of sandwiches?

Did he put too much garlic on them?

Andres
02-07-2013, 14:15
So you're saying to go for it, or not to go for it?

Indeed.

SwordsMaster
02-07-2013, 15:16
So, you're still single because of sandwiches?

Did he put too much garlic on them?

I was thinking along the lines of 'did he beat you with them?'

Andres
02-07-2013, 15:45
~:shock:


A Norwegian man is accused of assaulting his rival with a sandwich.

The Norwegian newspaper Viking Tribune says a 35 year old man is charged with disturbing the peace. According to the arrest affidavit, the notorious skirt chaser H.T. called the authorities late Sunday because he was assaulted by a man who pushed him down and rubbed a sandwich in his face, supposedly because H.T. had been kissing his girlfriend.

"Normally I wouldn't report this, but there was so much garlic on those sandwiches that my sex life will be ruined for several weeks! Nobody will ever want to kiss me!"

Mister A. Admin, an eye-witness, commented on the story, his mouth filled with a left-over of the sandwich: "Mmph. Hmph. Grmph!"

The newspaper says court documents don't detail the ingredients, but a deputy found several pieces of lunchmeat on the carpet outside a bedroom and some pieces of bread in the bedroom.

The attacker remained in jail on Friday.

Fragony
02-07-2013, 16:07
No such thing as too much garlic

Lemur
02-07-2013, 16:33
I look at her everytime I pass by her. Sometimes she looks at me, but I can't tell how she thinks of me.
Have you done the basics? Asked around, found out who she is, checked to see if you two have any common acquaintances or friends?

If not, yeah, just introduce yourself. Try to be chill. Something along the lines of, "We keep running into each other. Hi, I'm [x]."

It doesn't need to be complex. Beautiful women are people, too, with the exact same set of insecurities and oddities as everyone else.

Fragony
02-07-2013, 16:45
Mwah, bit too fast forward, pickup lines are what they are used to getting. Be casual and charming I'd say, not too much or you'll end up in friend-zone

Kadagar_AV
02-07-2013, 16:49
Whenever a female cashier smiles to you, it means she's flirting with you. If she asks you for a bag, that's the codeword for "do me right now in the breakroom".

I assume it's the same with receptionists.

I get what you are saying, waitresses, bartenders and so on have people flirting with them TOO MUCH at times.

With that said, waitresses, bartenders and yes, even receptionists also deserve romance.

As long as you'r not a slob or to drunk/stupid to understand when you are told of, go right ahead. I have heard so many beautiful girls in service jobs complain that men THEY are interested in don't dare to flirt, because they think the extra smile is just part of the service.

Again, manners. If you say she is beautiful and ask if she wants to go for a coffee some day, the worst thing that can happen is that she says no. She will only hate you for it if you can't take a no, or if you start being creepy.

SwordsMaster
02-07-2013, 16:50
I am not kidding, no idea why, but women like me. I have it all the time I am flirted at wherever I go. I am not particulary handsome or well-build, I don't really understand it myself. Not bragging, it's just how it is.

That's just dutch women, Frags, I have the exact same effect when I'm in Holland. And I can barely see my knees with my stomach. Maybe I should not be sharing that info so readily.

Fragony
02-07-2013, 17:17
That's just dutch women, Frags, I have the exact same effect when I'm in Holland. And I can barely see my knees with my stomach. Maybe I should not be sharing that info so readily.

Kinda have it everywhere. Fun story, I was in Paris and the girl at the entrance was cute so I asked her if she wanted to have a wine when she was done working. At 2 am I got a knock on my door YAY. Was not the girl but the hotel-manager who furiously started vaccuum-cleaning my room. Bit too old for me so I acted as if I didn't understand her and acted as if nothing happened next day. But things like that tend to happen to me

Edit: muahaha Kadagar you might hate it but we are remarkably alike

:sweetheart:

Hax
02-07-2013, 22:43
In this thread: men telling other men what women want!

Kadagar_AV
02-07-2013, 23:36
In this thread: men telling other men what women want!

Some of us have a track record to back it up ;)

HoreTore
02-08-2013, 00:33
That's just dutch women, Frags, I have the exact same effect when I'm in Holland. And I can barely see my knees with my stomach. Maybe I should not be sharing that info so readily.

That's probably because you can still see your penis ~;)

At the end of the day, that's what counts!

By the way, this saturday was related to this thread. I'll bore you with a story from the "exciting" life of HoreTore!

So, me and a few pals went to town. Unusually for me, I wasn't very drunk, so I have a good memory of the night. Anyway, me and a friend was sitting at a table opposite two women. I started hitting on the short one, of course(I'm not tall, except when in Italy). Eventually, my friend started hitting on the other woman. I should probably say "hitting on". I couldn't hear all of his nonsense due to the music and my attempts on the other one, but one of his first sentences was "but you who are so delicious", said in a rather sleazy manner. The high point came when he touched her boob and she responded with "No, that's not okay" before going leaving with her friend to the ladies room.

Fast forward a couple of hours, and my friend has his tongue in her throat. To top it off, the short one informed me she had a boyfriend.

My world-view was shattered that night. She was a right hottie too, way above his standard! I left them at the kebab shop, as I was too frustrated to sty any longer...

I guess the morale is that it's sometimes good to be an incompetent, clueless weirdo.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-08-2013, 00:41
Well, I for one would walk up and say, "Hello, my name is [insert name]. I must say that I think You are the most beautiful girl I have seen in my life, may I ask You out for a coffee some day?"

I never seen the need to make things more complicated than that.

I cannot emphasise how true this is - she's likely say yes if you're halfway good looking, not completely awkward and she's single. If she doesn't so what? It's only coffee, it's not like you dropped down on one knee and swore your life to her, is it?

Even I can (and have) asked girls out for coffee.

johnhughthom
02-08-2013, 00:51
I've never asked a girl out for coffee, I don't think Irish men are allowed to.

HoreTore
02-08-2013, 00:55
I've never asked a girl out for coffee, I don't think Irish men are allowed to.

You're from Northern Ireland, aren't you?

What's the deal there, you ask girls out for "a pint and a bombed police station"?

Hax
02-08-2013, 00:57
Some of us have a track record to back it up ;)

And it's good to hear that you are in a happy and steady relationship :)

johnhughthom
02-08-2013, 01:03
You're from Northern Ireland, aren't you?

What's the deal there, you ask girls out for "a pint and a bombed police station"?

Listen from 2:48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unGtpBP83as)

Kadagar_AV
02-08-2013, 01:13
And it's good to hear that you are in a happy and steady relationship :)

Mmmm... I was engaged not long ago, had career set, baby clothes planned... And said goodbye.


So, well, I could have been. I was the one who walked away from the one girl in my life. Mainly because I got flowered up, and now deeply regret it. I found my twin soul, engaged her, my dad died in cancer, I took care of him for a year, got into a drunken/drug state... Lost her... Because I was a complete arse...


No mate, I wont give anyone advice on how to get a fully functional life. However, when it comes to asking a girl out for a date, you probably can't get a better guide than me. At least not on a gaming site.

Kadagar_AV
02-08-2013, 03:12
I use what is affectionately referred to (by me, at least) as the Venus Fly Trap Approach. Basically, I wait for them to come to me. An interesting side-effect of this is that almost every woman i've ever dated has been certifiably, bonafide, bat-guano crazy. Whether I attract crazy women, or whether crazy women are just more likely to make the first move is still something I have yet to discern. :shrug:

You ARE somewhat aware of gender roles, aight?

Kadagar_AV
02-08-2013, 03:24
I was in before the EDIT/spoiler in your post #36.

As to the edited spoiler, how could you have one, without the other?

Again, you ARE aware of gender roles ?

Kadagar_AV
02-08-2013, 04:25
Some men prefer women who don't need to be coached through the relationship process like some kind of crappy after-school special or MTV show. Not only do I tend to date women who come after me (as opposed to vice versa) but I also tend to date women a few years older than me. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

There are indeed more ways than one to skin a cat, but some of them are absolute rubbish, and far from what the OP asked for, which was good advice.

EDIT: Or do you honestly think he should keep on walking by the most interesting girl he has met, in the hope that she one day will just throw herself at him?

Be real here bro.

You are not here to argue me, but to help him :)

Tellos Athenaios
02-08-2013, 16:14
Isn't the Frontroom the relationship advice sub forum?

Fragony
02-08-2013, 17:14
Some of us like to take it from the back you got a problem with that

HoreTore
02-08-2013, 17:57
The women I usually chase are charmed by a few well-timed Simone de Beauvoir-quotes.

I don't think I have much advice to give in this thread.

Fragony
02-08-2013, 18:28
Did you met her yet

Strike For The South
02-08-2013, 18:55
I agree with Swen

I feel unclean

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
02-08-2013, 21:03
Oh will the two of you just get on?

Kadagar, Strike - I like both of you. The one thing I positively don't like is this antagonism.

Honestly, I want to bang your heads together sometimes.

Papewaio
02-09-2013, 04:37
Some of us like to take it from the back you got a problem with that

Not that there is anything wrong with that...

Hax
02-10-2013, 21:46
In other news, Fragony almost managed to type a grammatically correct sentence.

Ibrahim
02-11-2013, 03:05
my advice is to simply not waste your time: you got better things to do I'm sure.

that and there's a good chance this won't work out. the pessimist in me.

if you still feel brave, just go up and talk to her. don't force it though.

Fragony
02-11-2013, 07:37
In other news, Fragony almost managed to type a grammatically correct sentence.

Nothing wrong with that sentence

Peasant Phill
02-11-2013, 13:07
So Shaka_Khan, any news?

To add on the current awkward flirt tactics. I've asked my current girlfriend out in the bathrooms of our work place. I was between her and the exit, that way, she couldn't get away. It was a marvolous ambush.

Hax
02-11-2013, 20:35
Nothing wrong with that sentence


Did you met her yet

Uhuh.

Fragony
02-11-2013, 20:48
Uhuh.[/COLOR]

Other sentence, but that's perfectly acceptable, have you met would have been better though

Edit, ipad fail, directed at your post

Hax
02-12-2013, 01:52
"Did you met" is incorrect, though. Did you meet would be the correct form.

Shaka_Khan
02-12-2013, 07:45
O.k., I talked to her. I said "hello", but I couldn't think of anything else to say at that time. That's the problem. My mind tends to blank up when I'm around attractive girls. I think I was stiff if I remember correctly. I think it's because I lack confidence and was nervous.

Fragony
02-12-2013, 08:11
"Did you met" is incorrect, though. Did you meet would be the correct form.

Missed that

The Stranger
02-12-2013, 15:03
walk up to her, and tell her this. "Hegel said it is our duty to fall in love and get married. Hegel also said he was the greatest thinker the world has ever known. Shall we get on with it, I don't have all day!"

Jolt
02-12-2013, 16:38
Well, I for one would walk up and say, "Hello, my name is [insert name]. I must say that I think You are the most beautiful girl I have seen in my life, may I ask You out for a coffee some day?"

And there you go. Best advice you can get. You'll get a straight-forward answer from her rather quickly.

Thread over.

Fragony
02-12-2013, 19:47
And there you go. Best advice you can get. You'll get a straight-forward answer from her rather quickly.

Thread over.

Worst advice ever if you are nervous though. I don't know, just act natural SK.

Edit: few pointers

-it doesn't matter what you say
-it doesn't matter what you say

Finaly, best one

-it doesn't really matter what you say

Strike For The South
02-13-2013, 02:15
Remember, women are people too.

Jolt
02-13-2013, 14:39
Worst advice ever if you are nervous though. I don't know, just act natural SK.

Edit: few pointers

-it doesn't matter what you say
-it doesn't matter what you say

Finaly, best one

-it doesn't really matter what you say

Nervous guys can be endearing too. Or so every girl tells me.

Beskar
02-13-2013, 17:04
I saw this and for some reason, made me want to post it in this thread.
https://i.imgur.com/FnylBGY.png

The Stranger
02-13-2013, 18:39
18 yo HELL YEAH!!! but what what if im 18... :S so girls my age they kinda change into monsters some point in the day/week/month/year/life?

Beskar
02-13-2013, 19:15
18 yo HELL YEAH!!! but what what if im 18... :S so girls my age they kinda change into monsters some point in the day/week/month/year/life?

When they get into their mid-twenties into the thirties. (Can be younger/older depending on circumstances)

Childbirth is usually a very big factor as their as priorities become very child centred, wanting 'better finical situation' in the environment to give the best for the children. Once they have the children, they can end up living their lives through their children which causes a lot of marriage breakdowns as things such as sex become non-existent due to a multitude of reasons and failings from both/eitherside thus they fall back upon crutches, such as the children whilst the man typically fallbacks on things like the pub.

So the "18 year old" is too young to care about these things, wants to have fun. They are naive and typically emotionally immature. As Gelatinous Cube says, hardly any perspective.

The "Older Women" is past those days, most likely already had the kids and they are off at school. They want to to prioritise on having fun, they don't care about a lot of things as that is in the past, and are living for the moment.


Disclaimer: These is obviously very broad and general stereotypes, but I am attempting to explain the reasoning behind them to The Stranger so he understands better!

The Stranger
02-14-2013, 01:29
but but but 18yo have the best bods!

Fragony
02-14-2013, 09:50
Nervous guys can be endearing too. Or so every girl tells me.

Untill being nervous gets creepy, nervous guys also want to get into her pants they just aren't very good at it

SK, do you have any female friends that are just friends? SFTS nailed it, women are also just people. Nobody minds some harmless teasing, don't be so shy. Gear up, dress well, be suavi. Nobody dislikes to be apreciated