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rickinator9
07-07-2013, 19:47
The Desperate Plea and the Decent Proposal
Yes, I killed Abstain, and yes, I am the French murderer. Abstain's day-kill was 1 of 3 single-use abilities I possess, in addition to the night kills. My win condition is to achieve a victory for any faction other than town, which we would presumably share, or be the last man standing.
If my assumptions about mafia numbers are correct, then there should be at least 3 Italian mafia left and 1 Russian, possibly more if they've recruited. Maybe another neutral. I propose that the remaining non-town aligned players band together and ensure our own survival. With judicious night kills and unified voting, we can take down the town in a couple turns, and then just let it come down to a good old-fashioned gang war! I realize that prospect might sound more appealing to the Italians than to the Russian(s), but how does it compare to the current situation? If Abstain's claims were true, the town have a detective and a network. Would you rather contend with that?
I realize it is late in this round to be proposing a new bandwagon, especially since it's highly possible that we might only be able to achieve a tie. But you'll have tonight to think about it, too. I'll wait til then to make my suggestion about how we can coordinate this in a way that allows both families to remain unknown to each other until the town is eliminated. So in the meantime, just think my suggestion and decide if it would benefit you.
:hourglass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU4-JuyihrY
Oh, I see. He can survive a lynch.
How do you conclude that? Why would he even reveal if he could survive a lynch?
Townies, join me in attacking him tonight.
Um, I can only assist someone else. Like me, no townie should have been able to accumulate enough xp to get a promotion yet. Yet you claim the ability to kill. The rules give the XP cost of a Killer promotion as follows:
Roleblocker: 8xp
Killer: 8xp (requires roleblocker ability)
There is no way in hell you could possibly have gotten 16xp as a townie. This is voting Day 5, so you'd have 5xp from voting after today, not enough for ANY promotion, let alone two. Yet you claim to be able to kill. If you started as a roleblocker it's entirely possible that you could have gotten enough xp to move to killer, but it's equally as likely that you just started as a killer. As such, you've basically just publicly IDed yourself as either a roleblocker or a killer. Since you will clearly claim roleblocker regardless of whether it's true or not, now would be a good time to start explaining why we should believe you.
Askthepizzaguy
07-07-2013, 20:47
The Desperate Plea and the Decent Proposal
Yes, I killed Abstain, and yes, I am the French murderer. Abstain's day-kill was 1 of 3 single-use abilities I possess, in addition to the night kills. My win condition is to achieve a victory for any faction other than town, which we would presumably share, or be the last man standing.
If my assumptions about mafia numbers are correct, then there should be at least 3 Italian mafia left and 1 Russian, possibly more if they've recruited. Maybe another neutral. I propose that the remaining non-town aligned players band together and ensure our own survival. With judicious night kills and unified voting, we can take down the town in a couple turns, and then just let it come down to a good old-fashioned gang war! I realize that prospect might sound more appealing to the Italians than to the Russian(s), but how does it compare to the current situation? If Abstain's claims were true, the town have a detective and a network. Would you rather contend with that?
I realize it is late in this round to be proposing a new bandwagon, especially since it's highly possible that we might only be able to achieve a tie. But you'll have tonight to think about it, too. I'll wait til then to make my suggestion about how we can coordinate this in a way that allows both families to remain unknown to each other until the town is eliminated. So in the meantime, just think my suggestion and decide if it would benefit you.
:hourglass:
Ah. either a serial killer or a mafia aligned malignant tumor.
Yes, we should definitely leave you alive. Watch me move my vote.
Watch.
Watch.....
Askthepizzaguy
07-07-2013, 20:50
You have severely miscalculated. The scum are outnumbered. Moreover, if there were even one more scumbag than townies, not one of the former would be the first to reveal himself.
Edit: Oh, I see. He can survive a lynch. Townies, join me in attacking him tonight.
If you aren't speaking nonsense, I would like to volunteer. All these nights of not doing squat make me feel like hurting things.
Montmorency
07-07-2013, 21:10
There is no way in hell you could possibly have gotten 16xp as a townie. This is voting Day 5, so you'd have 5xp from voting after today, not enough for ANY promotion, let alone two. Yet you claim to be able to kill. If you started as a roleblocker it's entirely possible that you could have gotten enough xp to move to killer, but it's equally as likely that you just started as a killer. As such, you've basically just publicly IDed yourself as either a roleblocker or a killer. Since you will clearly claim roleblocker regardless of whether it's true or not, now would be a good time to start explaining why we should believe you.
Nah, I just figured that, given this:
There will be a chance of failure for every night action. This can be counteracted by other players sending in orders to help with a specific night action. However if this action fails there is a chance that assisting players may die. If a mafia player assists a town night action (or vice versa) the chance of success will decrease rather than increase. I will not reveal the standard success percentages or the quantitative effect bringing help will have, you’ll have to figure this out for yourselves. For this to occur both the initiator and any players joining must PM me the action and the target AND mention each other in the PM.
9. Experience will be gained for each vote and each successful night action (whether instigated or participated in), for 1xp and 2xp respectively. This experience can be exchanged for new night abilities (see below). It is possible to have more than one night ability but only one can be used at a time. Certain roles will have specific abilities and will not be able to learn new ones. Players assuming these roles during the game will lose any previously held abilities. Players in one of the crime families will require the blessing of their Don to gain new abilities.
and the Capo inspiration, townies should be able to team up to perform actions. :shrug:
I'm vanilla town, and having not networked my only actions thus far have been day actions (i.e. votes).
Like me, no townie should have been able to accumulate enough xp to get a promotion yet.
Then no townie would ever be able to get more than one ability, as right here after this lynch we are entering the end-game. What would the point even be, then, other than to give scum even more options? And furthermore, just 2 XP per action in that case would automatically give scum a half-game advantage when it comes to buying abilities. And don't forget that each scumbag comes with an ability anyway (viz. Killer, Redirector, Don). Scum recruiting ability on top of town only being able to buy abilities after D6... Come on now. Be sensible.
How do you conclude that? Why would he even reveal if he could survive a lynch?
Because it's implied. He's clearly going to be lynched today, and yet he says:
But you'll have tonight to think about it, too. I'll wait til then to make my suggestion about how we can coordinate this in a way that allows both families to remain unknown to each other until the town is eliminated.
If he is alive tonight to make suggestions and there was no tie in this phase because the scum would not revealed themselves (yet), then...
And why wouldn't he reveal? Obviously, after surviving today he would be relynched the next day. This pan-scum alliance appeal is his best shot.
You gotta think things through. And if you are a townie and supposedly have nothing to do tonight, then join me and Pizza. Worst case, nothing happens. Best case, B-Wing dies and we get XP. Don't forget that I called the mayor's innocence correctly while you disputed it.
Nah, I just figured that, given this:
and the Capo inspiration, townies should be able to team up to perform actions. :shrug:
If that's true, then I think many of us have been wasting our evenings doing nothing when we should have been gaining xp doing something in groups.
Ferret can you confirm if this is true? Can townies join together for a night action when none of them has the stated ability to do that action?
Then no townie would ever be able to get more than one ability, as right here after this lynch we are entering the end-game. What would the point even be, then, other than to give scum even more options? And furthermore, just 2 XP per action in that case would automatically give scum a half-game advantage when it comes to buying abilities. And don't forget that each scumbag comes with an ability anyway (viz. Killer, Redirector, Don). Scum recruiting ability on top of town only being able to buy abilities after D6... Come on now. Be sensible.
It did not occur to me that we could do actions in groups without that being listed in the role PM. If that's true, it would indeed explain this XP imbalance situation.
Ferret can you confirm if this is true? Can townies join together for a night action when none of them has the stated ability to do that action?
No, they can't. Concerns regarding XP imbalances and the purposes of townie XP will be addressed after the game has ended.
Write up pending, sorry for the delay.
Start of Night 5
Once more the committee voted in almost complete unison. They were convinced B-Wing was a criminal, even before he had the audacity to kill the Mayor in their presence. With scowls on their faces they backed him into a corner handcuffs at the ready. He wasn't finished yet though and, whilst revealing a knife, darted towards a gap that had appeared in the growing throng of committee members. The throat of FoxLeLay was slashed on his way through and the spurting blood was enough of a distraction for B-Wing to escape. He would live another night at least.
Night 5 will end at 22:00 GMT on the 8th (~22 hours from the time of this post). Seeing as the last phase ran over a few hours I'm happy to lengthen this one if requested or if a significant number of orders are missing.
Tally:
B-Wing - 8 (rickinator9, Riedquat, ATPG, TinCow, SalmonSoil, Ishmael, White_eyes:D, Montmorency)
Alive:
1. B-Wing
2. rickinator9
3. Riedquat
4. Askthepizzaguy
5. TinCow
6. SalmonSoil
7. Ishmael
8. White_eyes:D
9. Montmorency
Killed/Imprisoned:
1. Gaius Scribonius Curio (Day 1) - Townie Detective
2. Chaotix (Night 1) - Neutral Yakuza Assassin
3. Yay! (Day 2) - Townie
4. Csargo (Night 2) - Serbian Don
5. Ironside (Night 2) - Serbian Recruit
6. edse (Night 2) - Undercover Townie
7. autolycus (Day 3) - Townie
8. LazyMcCrow (Night 3) - Russian Killer
9. Darth Feather (Night 3) - Russian Don
10. HopAlongBunny (Day 4) - Serbian Redirector
11. BSmith (Night 4) - Serbian Killer
12. El Barto (Night 4) - Townie
13. Abstain (Day 5) - Town Mayor
14. FoxLeLay (Day 5 - WOG) - Townie Policeman (doctor)
Montmorency
07-08-2013, 00:58
No, they can't.
Well, then town isn't doing well. Bad moment for a WOG, too.
If there are 2 kills, and B-Wing dies tomorrow, then 6 players going into night, of whom 3-5 are scum? Oh dear, looks like B-Wing was right. And this way, no more scum will be NKed. End-game scum network. It's too strong.
Ouch, there'd better be a good explanation for 9 scum of 23, with recruiting powers, plus a neutral and an SK, against whom the town can perform no night-actions until LYLO or later...
:shame:
Well, then town isn't doing well. Bad moment for a WOG, too.
If there are 2 kills, and B-Wing dies tomorrow, then 6 players going into night, of whom 3-5 are scum? Oh dear, looks like B-Wing was right. And this way, no more scum will be NKed. End-game scum network. It's too strong.
Ouch, there'd better be a good explanation for 9 scum of 23, with recruiting powers, plus a neutral and an SK, against whom the town can perform no night-actions until LYLO or later...
:shame:
I agree with this. The game seems to be a mafia royale.
El Barto
07-08-2013, 01:23
And I of all people wasn't mafia.
Montmorency
07-08-2013, 02:14
It should be difficult, not guaranteed, for scum to win a game in which more scum than townies have died (as was the case before the mayor was murdered).
White_eyes:D
07-08-2013, 04:23
I would say that the French role seems super OPed overall....he can night-kill, survive a lynch, day-kill someone(This surprised me...I would have figured it would be only given to someone who can't kill...like the mayor or something for a one-shot vig) and some other ability that does :daisy: knows what.
Combine him with three family's, likely starting at nine players that can recruit most likely and we have ourselves a townie massacre.:sweatdrop:
Alright, so if the remaining mafia wish to carry out Operation Stick-it-to-the-Man, this is the only way I can see for it to work:
(1) One person from each family PM me with your family's members tonight (or during the coming Day phase). I know that sounds risky, but I have no incentive to share your roster with any other players; it is one thing which makes me more valuable alive.
(2) Once I receive both lists, all I have to do is pick a player not in the mafia to vote for the next day, and the rest of you just follow my lead. If I don't get both lists, then I'll vote "abstain" tomorrow, and everyone will know there's no deal.
(3) The next Night phase (and this current one if I receive both lists in time) I'll privately suggest to each family representative a player to kill, who will of course be town. Now I can't realistically enforce that you follow my suggestion, and you have the option to choose another target, but I'll most likely consider it a deal-breaker if that happens.
(4) Rinse, repeat, until all townies are removed.
I assume one concern you mafioso share is, can I be trusted? You know I'm not a townie or mafioso because of the two one-use abilities I've demonstrated (in addition to the French night kills, but I can't actually prove those were my doing). If you can come up with a plausible scenario in which I would be doing this for any reason other than that which I previously stated, feel free to point it out.
As I see it, the whole plan really hinges on whether the Russians agree. They are in the least favorable position if they buy in. Yet they may still find it preferable to the alternative. Whatever happens, I pledge to stay out of the ensuing mafia war, as it doesn't really benefit me to take sides.
There is one other possibility that should be addressed. Based on what I gather from the write-ups, the Italian mafia could have as many as 4 living members if they've successfully recruited. Not sure how recruiting works, but I assume each family can do it. Since there's only 9 total players alive, we could create a majority without the Russians' cooperation. Even if that does turn out to be the case, the Russians could still benefit from the agreement by virtue of being spared for a couple rounds.
Well, I can't think of anything else to add at the moment. Do you wanna do this? For the win? For the lulz? For all the scum who fought and failed before us? If you do, contact me. Otherwise, I'm a dead man tomorrow. Alive, I can be a useful ally. Dead, I'm just a wasted opportunity. :drama1:
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 06:53
Dang, another Askthepizzaguy wall-o-text. Doesn't that guy ever shut up?
Pfft.
Betcha B-Wing's a dead man walking.
There's what, still one scum faction untouched, probably with recruits? They've got this game in the bag. They're gonna kill a couple townies tonight and watch B-Wing get lynched tomorrow. No reason to cooperate with the only other player in this game that poses a threat.
Sink the metallic bovine at some stage please.
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 15:49
Sink the metallic bovine at some stage please.
Well gawrsh, I've only been trying to kill him all friggen game long.
El Barto
07-08-2013, 16:26
Maybe we shouls just kill the farinaceous dark one instead.
Darth Feather
07-08-2013, 18:33
Maybe we shouls just kill the farinaceous dark one instead.
Is that a reference to me? Well if so FYI I am already dead :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 21:21
Is that a reference to me? Well if so FYI I am already dead :clown:
Not dead enough.
Ferret, switch my murder target to Darth Feather.
El Barto
07-08-2013, 21:34
Flinch test fail! Investigate-cum-roleblock:Askthepizzaguy.
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 21:50
Flinch test fail! Investigate-cum-roleblock:Askthepizzaguy.
Two out of three make sense in a mafia game. The third one I find disturbing.
Start of Day 6
Montmorency was holed up at home with his escape routes ready and make shift weapons by his bed. Sure enough it wasn't long before he heard suspicious noises at his front window. After creeping round and making certain that there was an intruder he rapidly left via one his escape routes and fled into the night.
Rickinator9 was on his way to meet up with his new friends when his assailant struck. His attacker was evidently not hugely experienced with the AK-47 that he was wielding but given the amount of shots that were fired some were bound to find their mark. Rickinator ended up in a puddle of his own blood at the side of the road. As he bled out the attacker came over to leave the 4 of spades on his body.
Later, as the sun was rising, Askthepizzaguy could be found breaking into what (when viewed from the inside) was clearly a Russian's house. He pulled out a large machete and proceeded to run around the house, screaming and swinging the blade in circles. It appears he was attempting to kill Darth Feather's ghost. El Barto's ghost had been watching him carefully and went into full haunt mode to scare ATPG out of the house. (Disclaimer: This paragraph might not actually be part of the write up.)
Day 6 will end at 22:00 GMT on the 9th (~24 hours from the time of this post).
Alive:
1. B-Wing
2. Riedquat
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. TinCow
5. SalmonSoil
6. Ishmael
7. White_eyes:D
8. Montmorency
Killed/Imprisoned:
1. Gaius Scribonius Curio (Day 1) - Townie Detective
2. Chaotix (Night 1) - Neutral Yakuza Assassin
3. Yay! (Day 2) - Townie
4. Csargo (Night 2) - Serbian Don
5. Ironside (Night 2) - Serbian Recruit
6. edse (Night 2) - Undercover Townie
7. autolycus (Day 3) - Townie
8. LazyMcCrow (Night 3) - Russian Killer
9. Darth Feather (Night 3) - Russian Don
10. HopAlongBunny (Day 4) - Serbian Redirector
11. BSmith (Night 4) - Serbian Killer
12. El Barto (Night 4) - Townie
13. Abstain (Day 5) - Town Mayor
14. FoxLeLay (Day 5 - WOG) - Townie Policeman (doctor)
15. rickinator9 (Night 5) - Italian Recruit
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 22:13
Vote: B_Ray
Wouldn't even help me level up. I offered to help him no matter what he intended to do, and he rebuffed me. Only wants to help scum.
I apologize, this is nothing personal, just business.
rickinator9
07-08-2013, 22:28
15. Rickinator9 (Night 5) - Italian Recruit
Didn't see it coming, did ya?
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 22:32
Didn't see it coming, did ya?
You murdered yourself?
Yes, that was a bit unorthodox. I must admit I wasn't prepared for this possibility.
rickinator9
07-08-2013, 22:41
You murdered yourself?
Yes, that was a bit unorthodox. I must admit I wasn't prepared for this possibility.
They weren't giving me a large enough share of the pizza booty, so I killed myself. That's what happens when Rick isn't paid enough.
El Barto
07-08-2013, 22:51
That's conclusive enough for me.
disturbingaction: Askthepizzaguy
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 22:51
None of you can have any of this particular booty. It belongs to Diana.
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 22:52
That's conclusive enough for me.
disturbingaction: Askthepizzaguy
You could try voting for the scumbags. Well, if you weren't dead that is.
El Barto
07-08-2013, 23:15
But I can do disturbing things, Pizzamandude.
Well, it was worth a shot, but apparently nobody wanted me on their team. :sad3: Guess it's time to face the music.
vote: abstain
Wouldn't even help me level up. I offered to help him no matter what he intended to do, and he rebuffed me. Only wants to help scum.
Aww, I didn't rebuff you, to be fair. I did naturally assume you had some ulterior motive, but I didn't really have anything to hide as far as last night was concerned, and I spoke truthfully.
I'm now officially pulling for the Russians to pull off a come-back victory. Ni Pukha, Ni Pyera!
Vote: B-Wing
I saw him enjoying a spicy meat-a-ball.
El Barto
07-08-2013, 23:23
Нема повлачења, нема предаје!
Why you a-talking an Italian fellow-a, metal bovine?
vote: B-Wing.
No point in over-thinking this.
Why you a-talking an Italian fellow-a, metal bovine?
The quote is the quote. I shall never have it said that I made a reference but got the wording wrong.
El Barto
07-08-2013, 23:28
vote: B-Wing.
No point in over-thinking this.
Actually there is, because he isn't the only scum remaining.
The quote is the quote. I shall never have it said that I made a reference but got the wording wrong.
You ain't being a-funny, y'know,wiseguy.
Actually there is, because he isn't the only scum remaining.
Correct, Monty is clearly another. His whole "I can kill... wait, no I can't" bit yesterday was a bit of a tip off.
You ain't being a-funny, y'know,wiseguy.
I'm being hilarious, but my comedy is too high-brow for you. You see, I quoted the ORIGINAL meatballing statement as my reason for voting for B-Wing. That means I was meatballing! Meatballing is voting without a reason! Yet I was voting for someone who has publicly admitted to being a killer and been seen in the write-up killing our mayor! He's so guilty that no one even needs to give a reason to vote for him. Yet not only did I give a reason, my reason for voting for him was the very thing that means I was voting without a reason. IT'S FUNNY.
:stare:
Askthepizzaguy
07-08-2013, 23:37
I would kill you so hard if only people would like, listen to me and stuff.
I would kill you so hard if only people would like, listen to me and stuff.
Don't think I didn't notice that you thanked my first Team Peeta post, but not my second. Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
Askthepizzaguy
07-09-2013, 00:59
Don't think I didn't notice that you thanked my first Team Peeta post, but not my second. Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
I'm on Team Pizza, and always have been. :clown:
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
:wacko:
I changed my mind, I'm not pulling for the Russians anymore, I'm pulling for TinCow, and whatever team he's on. Donnie Darko references will earn my loyalty any day.
HopAlongBunny
07-09-2013, 01:54
For shameless and creative self-preservation:
go: B-Wing!!!
Riedquat
07-09-2013, 16:20
Vote: B-wing
Start of Night 6
The committee members were prepared this time and B-Wing was surrounded and handcuffed as soon as the day began just in case he was chose to be imprisoned again. Sure enough the vote was unanimous and the man's rampage was finally at an end. With just seven committee members left, the ordeal surely wouldn't last much longer.
Night 6 will end at 22:00 GMT on the 12th (~72 hours from the time of this post). Pretty inconvenient time for such a long phase but I have my graduation ceremony this week and won't have internet access for a few days. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Tally:
B-Wing - 4 (Riedquat, ATPG, Ishmael, TinCow)
Alive:
1. Riedquat
2. Askthepizzaguy
3. TinCow
4. SalmonSoil
5. Ishmael
6. White_eyes:D
7. Montmorency
Killed/Imprisoned:
1. Gaius Scribonius Curio (Day 1) - Townie Detective
2. Chaotix (Night 1) - Neutral Yakuza Assassin
3. Yay! (Day 2) - Townie
4. Csargo (Night 2) - Serbian Don
5. Ironside (Night 2) - Serbian Recruit
6. edse (Night 2) - Undercover Townie
7. autolycus (Day 3) - Townie
8. LazyMcCrow (Night 3) - Russian Killer
9. Darth Feather (Night 3) - Russian Don
10. HopAlongBunny (Day 4) - Serbian Redirector
11. BSmith (Night 4) - Serbian Killer
12. El Barto (Night 4) - Townie
13. Abstain (Day 5) - Town Mayor
14. FoxLeLay (Day 5 - WOG) - Townie Policeman (doctor)
15. rickinator9 (Night 5) - Italian Recruit
16. B-Wing (Day 6) - Neutral French Psychopath
There is no way in hell I am going to survive tonight.
Askthepizzaguy
07-09-2013, 23:30
There is no way in hell I am going to survive tonight.
You will. Mostly because I can't murder things.
You will. Mostly because I can't murder things.
A TinCow cannot be alive at the end of a mafia game. It violates the very laws of physics and the universe will find a way to rectify the situation.
Askthepizzaguy
07-09-2013, 23:49
A TinCow cannot be alive at the end of a mafia game. It violates the very laws of physics and the universe will find a way to rectify the situation.
Then we can only hope you and the other mafia team kill each other off. But I am not holding my breath.
I am guessing I'm still not recruited as punishment for past misdeeds. I am a sad panda now.
I am guessing I'm still not recruited as punishment for past misdeeds. I am a sad panda now.
If you are still a townie, if you even ever were to begin with, then I am a kumquat.
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 00:11
If you are still a townie, if you even ever were to begin with, then I am a kumquat.
If I wasn't a townie, you would have been dead when my first three attempts to lynch you failed, you silly banana kumquat. You're just leaving me alive to taunt me at this point.
I must admit I find it both amusing and frustrating.
El Barto
07-10-2013, 02:45
That's it, Pizza, I'll make you a panda in my next game.
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 03:33
That's it, Pizza, I'll make you a panda in my next game.
Making Pizza a panda in your next game makes Pizza a sad panda.
LazyMcCrow
07-10-2013, 15:08
Then we can only hope you and the other mafia team kill each other off. But I am not holding my breath.
I am guessing I'm still not recruited as punishment for past misdeeds. I am a sad panda now. This is why you are scum :)
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 15:14
This is why you are scum :)
No, the reason why I am scum is because town is insufferably lame, and you weren't clever enough to recruit me before your swift but satisfying demise.
LazyMcCrow
07-10-2013, 15:36
No, the reason why I am scum is because town is insufferably lame, and you weren't clever enough to recruit me before your swift but satisfying demise.
You know as well as I do that this was never a game about being part of the town :) With hindsight, I would have happily recruited you - had I had that ability.
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 16:05
You know as well as I do that this was never a game about being part of the town :) With hindsight, I would have happily recruited you - had I had that ability.
Two thoughts for the Russians:
1) Hindsight is 20/20.
2) He who hesitates is lost.
Darth Feather
07-10-2013, 16:19
Two thoughts for the Russians:
1) Hindsight is 20/20.
2) He who hesitates is lost.
But people are scared of persuasion technique and kill you, vhat vould you vant me to do.
And I am still in denial sure Russia will come out victorious. So we didn't have to recruit you.
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 16:37
But people are scared of persuasion technique and kill you, vhat vould you vant me to do.
Should have me an offer I can't refuse.
And I am still in denial sure Russia will come out victorious. So we didn't have to recruit you.
You lose a lot of money down at the race tracks, don't you?
Darth Feather
07-10-2013, 17:12
Should have me an offer I can't refuse.
You lose a lot of money down at the race tracks, don't you?
NEVER ADMIT DEFEAT. If I lose at the races, I bribe the Judge, vho disqualifies all horses better than mine.
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 18:02
NEVER ADMIT DEFEAT. If I lose at the races, I bribe the Judge, vho disqualifies all horses better than mine.
I believe your favorite horse is resting comfortably in the bed of your living associates as we speak.
Part of it, anyway.
Darth Feather
07-10-2013, 18:42
I believe your favorite horse is resting comfortably in the bed of your living associates as we speak.
Part of it, anyway.
That is just evil. Vhat did Sprinkles ever do to you? Nov I am sure, you are Italian killer or neutral horse terrorist.
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 19:04
Me? I'm just a pizza delivery man.
Darth Feather
07-10-2013, 19:08
Me? I'm just a pizza delivery man.
So, basically, you admit your Italian nature. :whip:
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 19:48
So, basically, you admit your Italian nature.
What, my patriotic declaration that I wished to kill people by impaling them on the Italian flag wasn't a strong enough hint for you? And I've only referenced the Godfather over and over on this thread.
Does anyone care to guess my role now, or do you still foolishly believe you can stop my reign of terror, that I might have to keep it a secret?
Darth Feather
07-10-2013, 19:49
What, my patriotic declaration that I wished to kill people by impaling them on the Italian flag wasn't a strong enough hint for you? And I've only referenced the Godfather over and over on this thread.
Does anyone care to guess my role now, or do you still foolishly believe you can stop my reign of terror?
That means recruiting you vould be impossible anyvay. So ve vere right not to.
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 19:57
I'm still insulted that you never tried. And for that, you deserved to have that florin placed upon your head.
Although, just between us, you weren't worth a nickel.
Say goodbye to Mother Russia.
LazyMcCrow
07-10-2013, 22:37
vivé la vache en étain!
El Barto
07-10-2013, 22:46
Someone lynch Pizza, he's leader of a mafia faction.
Making Pizza a panda in your next game makes Pizza a sad panda.
It's not a lame panda like in the WarCraft series, man.
Say goodbye to Mother Russia.
Mother Russia do not suffer… we're gonna meet you alla round the wooorld…
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 22:47
vivé la vache en étain!
Oh, he's lived long enough, don't you think?
Askthepizzaguy
07-10-2013, 22:57
Someone lynch Pizza, he's leader of a mafia faction.
No! Please don't threaten to lynch me! I'm so worried about that happening.
This town is a little slow on the uptake.
El Barto
07-10-2013, 23:47
threatentolynch:askthepizzaguy.
SalmonSoil
07-11-2013, 10:16
Pizza obviously doesn't care about our lynches. Probably he can survive a lynch attempt, or there are 4 Italians. Or maybe he just wanted us to come to that conclusion and fail to lynch him?
The question is, can someone night kill him?
Askthepizzaguy
07-11-2013, 10:36
Pizza obviously doesn't care about our lynches. Probably he can survive a lynch attempt, or there are 4 Italians. Or maybe he just wanted us to come to that conclusion and fail to lynch him?
The question is, can someone night kill him?
Highly unlikely at this point. :evil:
El Barto
07-11-2013, 23:20
threatentolynch:askthepizzaguy.
QFT.
SalmonSoil
07-12-2013, 13:58
When is this phase meant to end? I'm not sure if I will be awake before it does, but if I am this vote may change.
vote: Tincow
I told you I hadn't forgotten.
When is this phase meant to end? I'm not sure if I will be awake before it does, but if I am this vote may change.
vote: Tincow
I told you I hadn't forgotten.
It's a night phase, but thanks for your support.
Start of Day 7
SalmonSoil was killed. A florin was found on his corpse.
Riedquat was killed. The five of spades was found on his corpse.
Day 7 will end at 22:00 GMT on the 13th (~20 hours from the time of this post). Sorry for the lack of flavour, it's been a long day.
Alive:
1. Askthepizzaguy
2. TinCow
3. Ishmael
4. White_eyes:D
5. Montmorency
Killed/Imprisoned:
1. Gaius Scribonius Curio (Day 1) - Townie Detective
2. Chaotix (Night 1) - Neutral Yakuza Assassin
3. Yay! (Day 2) - Townie
4. Csargo (Night 2) - Serbian Don
5. Ironside (Night 2) - Serbian Recruit
6. edse (Night 2) - Undercover Townie
7. autolycus (Day 3) - Townie
8. LazyMcCrow (Night 3) - Russian Killer
9. Darth Feather (Night 3) - Russian Don
10. HopAlongBunny (Day 4) - Serbian Redirector
11. BSmith (Night 4) - Serbian Killer
12. El Barto (Night 4) - Townie
13. Abstain (Day 5) - Town Mayor
14. FoxLeLay (Day 5 - WOG) - Townie Policeman (doctor)
15. rickinator9 (Night 5) - Italian Recruit
16. B-Wing (Day 6) - Neutral French Psychopath
17. SalmonSoil (Night 6) - Townie Policeman (doctor)
18. Riedquat (Night 6) - Italian Watcher
Riedquat
07-13-2013, 00:45
Domani stava andando a mangiare la pasta da mia mamma e ora sono morto...
Ma perché questo è successo??
Io so chi sei! :stare:
SalmonSoil
07-13-2013, 00:57
It's a night phase, but thanks for your support.
That explains a lot. At least I got to vote for you once more before my untimely demise.
rickinator9
07-13-2013, 01:35
Italian pizza eaters have already won.
El Barto
07-13-2013, 02:48
Domani stava andando a mangiare la pasta da mia mamma e ora sono morto...
Ma perché questo è successo??
Io so chi sei! :stare:
Non so, ma la pasta è sacra. Mi dispiace.
vote: White_eyes
So, what have you been up to?
Askthepizzaguy
07-13-2013, 08:12
Vote: White_Eyes.
I regret to inform you that you owe me money for pizzas that have been delivered.
As payment, I am requesting both of your eyes. For they have seen far more pizzas than they could ever hope to pay for.
Askthepizzaguy
07-13-2013, 08:16
I hope you will die honorably. But if there are any remaining townies who wish to beg for mercy, the great Pizza the Hutt will now listen to your pleas.
I could wait to vote until later and pretend this wasn't a foregone conclusion, but I'm out in the countryside with horrible phone reception and might not be able to successfully pull off that kind of entertainment.
Vote: White_Eyes
Shame on you for resorting to murder.
End of Day 7
There was one clear group huddled together on the seventh day. Askthepizzaguy kept looking at TinCow, clearly believing that he was following the cunning Italian's lead. In fact the Italian Don was his brother, Ishmael, who had quietly orchestrated his family's take over of the city.
White_eyes:D had a vacant look on his face and simply handed in a piece of paper to indicate that he would vote for himself, with no words necessary. The three Italians added their names to the list and White_eyes:D was swiftly marched off to the police cells.
With the final opposing mafia member out of their way the Italians all turned on Montmorency. TinCow had a wicked grin on his face, following multiple failed attempts on the seemingly blessed Montmorency, he would finally claim his kill. Monty was soon overpowered by sheer numbers and after a brief torture period, where Monty was force fed mouldy pizza, Ishmael finally gave the word for TinCow to end his suffering by drowning him with milk.
Victorious the three men returned to their headquarters and discussed how best to exploit profits in the city they now controlled.
ITALIAN MAFIA VICTORY!
Tally:
White_eyes:D - 4 (White_eyes:D, ATPG, Ishmael, TinCow)
Alive:
1. Askthepizzaguy - Italian Roleblocker
2. TinCow - Italian Killer
3. Ishmael - Italian Don
Killed/Imprisoned:
1. Gaius Scribonius Curio (Day 1) - Townie Detective
2. Chaotix (Night 1) - Neutral Yakuza Assassin
3. Yay! (Day 2) - Townie
4. Csargo (Night 2) - Serbian Don
5. Ironside (Night 2) - Serbian Recruit
6. edse (Night 2) - Undercover Townie
7. autolycus (Day 3) - Townie
8. LazyMcCrow (Night 3) - Russian Killer
9. Darth Feather (Night 3) - Russian Don
10. HopAlongBunny (Day 4) - Serbian Redirector
11. BSmith (Night 4) - Serbian Killer
12. El Barto (Night 4) - Townie
13. Abstain (Day 5) - Town Mayor
14. FoxLeLay (Day 5 - WOG) - Townie Policeman (doctor)
15. rickinator9 (Night 5) - Italian Recruit
16. B-Wing (Day 6) - Neutral French Psychopath
17. SalmonSoil (Night 6) - Townie Policeman (doctor)
18. Riedquat (Night 6) - Italian Watcher/Roleblocker
19. White_eyes:D (Day 7) - Russian Roleblocker/Killer
20. Montmorency (Day 7) - Townie
Thank you all very much for playing. I've enjoyed hosting this and hope that you've enjoyed playing it.
I'll try and get the role PMs and all my thoughts on the game up tomorrow. For now, here are the links to the quicktopics:
Town: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/UFGq8dDtZnXR
Italian Inner: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/R5tnJWaTD6tU
Italian Outer: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/qeWNsrkkp4SN
Serbian Inner: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/pd6UXFpiBh3
Serbian Outer: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/7xumqTqHJzC3c
Russian Inner: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/FRVFX3EDY7Q6G
Russian Outer: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/uDXLDdHfZw8
Congratulations to the Italians! :balloon3:
A very fun game, thanks Ferret!
We had a fair amount of luck by getting 2 legit recruits, and having our recruited mole (edse) get killed off by another faction before that became a problem. At the same time, Monty survived 3 hits by me from sheer luck. That was slightly frustrating. Kind of funny that he was just a townie and we could have solved our problem by recruiting him as well.
Riedquat
07-13-2013, 18:57
Hahaha!! Dead and all I still have a bit of paranoia in myself! :P
Can't believe Monty was only vanilla townie and Pizza was only a real italian recruit! LOL While the vache d'etain wasn't our don!!
Monty avoided at least 3 killing attempts and 1 investigation, lucky guy it seems.
Darth Feather
07-13-2013, 19:22
Great game. Pity all recruitment attempts failed :(
And greatly played, Italian evildudes. ~;)
rickinator9
07-13-2013, 21:11
Yay! We won!
Pretty happy I wasn't voted out the first few days. Even more so, I wasn't really voted for the whole game. Did you trust me that much?!
Edit: Didn't even know my mafia overlords until the end.
Askthepizzaguy
07-13-2013, 21:50
HAH! Ok, congratulations to our Don for actually fooling me.
I knew TinCow was Italian Mafia, I assumed he was the Don based on how the Don spoke in the quicktopics.
Askthepizzaguy
07-13-2013, 21:53
[edit] Yeah, give ATPG a recruitment attempt. He says he's just a normal townie and unrecruited. Worth the try on the off chance that he's telling the truth.
It is a rare thing of beauty, but sometimes, ATPG shows you his cards.
Good game everybody! Congratulations to all my mafia partners - sorry that you died rickinator and Riedquat; we were hoping for a victory without casualties, but it wasn't to be.
I think this might be the first game I was never really targeted for either a nightkill or the lynch. It proved to be a good time for it :beam:.
And of course, thank you Ferret for hosting! Possible balance issues aside, you were a very prompt and responsive host, which is always great.
Askthepizzaguy
07-14-2013, 08:10
PS- I told y'all to vote for TinCow.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
07-14-2013, 08:41
Congratulations to the Italians, thanks to EF for hosting such an interesting game.
Unfortunate early lynch aside I enjoyed following along...
SalmonSoil
07-14-2013, 09:43
PS- I told y'all to vote for TinCow.
And I voted for him on 3 day phases and even once on a night phase!
I mean come on, he tried to lynch the only confirmed innocent town power role.
Askthepizzaguy
07-14-2013, 09:57
And I voted for him on 3 day phases and even once on a night phase!
I mean come on, he tried to lynch the only confirmed innocent town power role.
I thumbed my nose at same town power role and really wanted to lynch Gaius, but knew I couldn't do that while I was still a townie.
I'm just saying, Tincow would do the scummiest thing imaginable as a townie, because that's just how he rolls. He just happened to be mafia this time.
I do appreciate your persistance. If the rest of the town had been a little bit more effective, I would have tried harder to help you guys. But I smelled the way the winds were blowin' and I knew town was toast. I basically begged Tincow's team to recruit me, and I did it publicly too.
And I voted for him on 3 day phases and even once on a night phase!
I mean come on, he tried to lynch the only confirmed innocent town power role.
For the record, my attempted lynch of him had absolutely nothing to do with being mafia, that was just me being me. First, I am truly irritated by the name. Second, I honestly did not believe he was confirmed innocent as I thought this game was like Capo and, as I said, I saw nothing in the rules that seemed to indicate otherwise. I guarantee you that if I had actually believed he was confirmed innocent, I would not have actually tried to get him lynched, let alone as scum.
Role PMs:
Town:
Mayor:
You are Felix Mueller, the newly elected Mayor of Magdeburg. You are determined to rid your town of organised crime and lead it to become one of the most important cities in Germany.
Abilities:
1. You decide who is lynched in the event of a tie.
2. Along with police officers Dieter Gross (SalmonSoil) and Fred Reus (Makrell) you have access to private chambers in the town hall at all hours.
3. You cannot gain new night abilities.
Victory conditions: All three mafia families are eliminated.
Police (doctors):
You are Dieter Gross/Fred Reus, an influential member of the Magdeburg police force. You and fellow police officer x/y have extensive experience in the protection of VIPs and have been assigned to Mayor Mueller’s (Abstain) party.
Abilities:
1. You may attempt to protect one target each night phase. If you wish for someone to accompany you both you and them must send the host a PM and mention both each other and the target within it.
2. You have access to the private chambers in the town hall, along with x/y and the Mayor.
Victory conditions: All three mafia families are eliminated.
Detective:
You are Detective Max Kroos, an expert in criminal investigation. Your methods are undeniably effective but have not always fallen within the confines of the law. This led to you being involuntarily removed from the police force but you remain dedicated to Magdeburg, and determined to rid it of the criminals that plague its streets.
Abilities:
1. Once per night you may attempt to investigate one other player.
Victory conditions: All three mafia families are eliminated.
Townie:
You are a citizen of Magdeburg. Worried by the huge levels of organised crime in the city you have joined the mayor’s committee that will decide which members of the community to imprison.
Victory conditions: All three mafia families are eliminated.
The Florenzi Family:
Domenico Florenzi (Don):
You are Don Florenzi, respected long term leader of the Florenzi crime family. Intent on asserting dominance in the city of Magdeburg you have travelled to the city yourself, along with your right hand man, brother and experienced hitman Giorgio Florenzi. The other member currently with you in the city is the informant Lorenzo Pasquale.
Abilities:
1. You have access to both the inner and outer chambers of the Florenzi headquarters.
2. Once per night you may either:
a. Attempt to recruit two targets by PMing their names to the host.
b. Sanction the promotion of one member of the family, assuming they have sufficient XP (players with one ability will only have access to the outer HQ but if they have enough XP can be promoted to gain a new ability and will then gain access to the inner chamber [and your .org username])
c. Visit any player to call in a favour (they will vote for whomever you chose in the next day phase, PM me the name of the target and who you wish them to vote for).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
Giorgio Florenzi (killer):
You are Giorgio Florenzi, brother and right hand man to Don Florenzi. You have come to Magdeburg with your Don in order to establish the family’s dominance in the city and will look to make use of your violent abilities to achieve that aim. The other member of the Florenzi family in Magdeburg is the informant Lorenzo Pasquale.
Abilities:
1. You have access to both the inner and outer chambers of the Florenzi headquarters.
2. Once per night you may attempt to kill any player (PM me the name of your target).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
Lorenzo Pasquale (watcher):
You are Lorenzo Pasquale, a new recruit to the powerful Florenzi family. You were recruited to serve Don Domenico Florenzi and his brother Giorgio. You are a small man and have often been noted for your ability to remain undetected. Because of this you are a wise choice when certain individuals require monitoring.
Abilities:
1. You have access the outer chambers of the Florenzi headquarters.
2. Once per night you may attempt to watch any player (PM me the name of your target, the most likely outcome is you discovering who they targeted with their night action).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
The Lukic Family:
Goran Lukic (Don):
You are Don Lukic, the elderly and brutal leader of the Lukic crime family. Intent on asserting dominance in the city of Magdeburg you have travelled to the city yourself, along with your son and equally violent character Miroslav Lukic. The other family member currently with you in the city is the con artist Marko Srdic.
Abilities:
1. You have access to both the inner and outer chambers of the Lukic headquarters.
2. Once per night you may either:
a. Attempt to recruit two targets by PMing their names to the host.
b. Sanction the promotion of one member of the family, assuming they have sufficient XP (players with one ability will only have access to the outer HQ but if they have enough XP can be promoted to gain a new ability and will then gain access to the inner chamber [and your .org username])
c. Visit any player to call in a favour (they will vote for whomever you chose in the next day phase, PM me the name of the target and who you wish them to vote for).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
Miroslav Lukic (killer):
You are Miroslav Lukic, son of Don Lukic. You have come to Magdeburg with your Don in order to establish the family’s dominance in the city and will look to make use of your violent abilities to achieve that aim. The other member of the Lukic family in Magdeburg is the conman Marko Srdic.
Abilities:
1. You have access to both the inner and outer chambers of the Lukic headquarters.
2. Once per night you may attempt to kill any player (PM me the name of your target).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
Marko Srdic (redirector):
You are Marko Srdic, a new recruit to the powerful Lukic family. You were recruited to serve Don Goran Lukic and his son Miroslav. You are a crafty man and have a history of ripping people off with a variety of cons and tricks. Now that you have joined a crime family you are expected to use your skills to trick others in the city into targeting the wrong people.
Abilities:
1. You have access to the outer chambers of the Lukic headquarters.
2. Once per night you may attempt to redirect any player (PM me the name of your target, the most likely outcome is your target will use their ability on you instead of their original target).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
The Kozar Family:
Alexey Kozar (Don):
You are Don Kozar, respected long term leader of the Kozar crime family. Intent on asserting dominance in the city of Magdeburg you have travelled to the city yourself, along with your right hand man, brother and experienced hitman Yuri Kozar. The other family member currently with you in the city is the henchman Igor Rusnak.
Abilities:
1. You have access to both the inner and outer chambers of the Kozar headquarters.
2. Once per night you may either:
a. Attempt to recruit two targets by PMing their names to the host.
b. Sanction the promotion of one member of the family, assuming they have sufficient XP (players with one ability will only have access to the outer HQ but if they have enough XP can be promoted to gain a new ability and will then gain access to the inner chamber [and your .org username])
c. Visit any player to call in a favour (they will vote for whomever you chose in the next day phase, PM me the name of the target and who you wish them to vote for).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
Yuri Kozar (killer):
You are Yuri Kozar, brother and right hand man to Don Kozar. You have come to Magdeburg with your Don in order to establish the family’s dominance in the city and will look to make use of your violent abilities to achieve that aim. The other member of the Kozar family in Magdeburg is the henchman Igor Rusnak.
Abilities:
1. You have access to both the inner and outer chambers of the Kozar headquarters.
2. Once per night you may attempt to kill any player (PM me the name of your target).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
Igor Rusnak (roleblocker):
You are Igor Rusnak, a new recruit to the powerful Kozar family. You were recruited to serve Don Alexey Kozar and his brother Yuri. You are a huge man and used to be a nightclub bouncer in Moscow. Upon joining the crime family you will be expected to use your size to prevent other citizens from doing things your Don does not wish them to.
Abilities:
1. You have access the outer chambers of the Kozar headquarters.
2. Once per night you may attempt to block any player (PM me the name of your target, the most likely outcome is your target will not perform their night action).
Victory conditions: the other two mafia families are destroyed and your family outnumbers the remaining townies.
Neutral Roles:
Guillame Escargot (serial killer):
You are Guillame Escargot, son of a French Resistance leader with a deep set hatred of the Germans. Following the recent death of your father you have decided to travel to Magdeburg to wreak vengeance on the German people.
Abilities:
1. You cannot join factions or gain new abilities.
2. Once every even numbered night (Night 2, Night 4 etc) you may attempt to kill another player (PM me the target).
3. You will survive the first time you would normally be killed (be it at night or by lynch)
4. Once in the game you may kill another player in the day phase (PM me the target, this is a guaranteed kill but it will be public knowledge that you are the killer).
Victory conditions: everyone else is killed (major victory) or survive until another faction has achieved victory (minor victory).
Takashi Yamamoto (serial killer):
You are Takashi Yamamoto, former Yakuza member turned assassin for hire. You have arrived in Magdeburg with a contract to kill one of the three Dons that have recently arrived in the city, which one it is does not matter.
Abilities:
1. You can join factions and gain new abilities in the same way as most other players.
2. Once every odd numbered night (starting from Night 3) you may attempt to kill another player (PM me the target). This is in addition to any other night abilities you may gain (including killing abilities).
Victory conditions: kill a Don and survive to the end of the game (major victory) or kill a Don and die before the end of the game (minor victory).
Ability outcomes:
Watcher:
53% - target's target revealed
30% - no information
10% - target's faction revealed
5% - target's ability revealed
2% - target's ability and target revealed
Detective:
10% - no information
30% - criminality revealed
50% - faction revealed
10% - role revealed
Roleblocker:
60% - target blocked
40% - target not blocked (30% if target is killer)
10% - if target killer, roleblocker dies
Killer:
60% - target killed
30% - no one dies
10% - killer dies
Redirector:
60% - target's ability used on redirector
30% - nothing happens
10% - target's ability used on himself
Doctor:
60% - target protected
10% - if target attacked, attacker dies
10% - if target attacked, doctor dies
20% - no protection
El Barto
07-14-2013, 21:41
How many times did I say that voting for Pizza'd lynch a Mafia? Aaahhh…
Ferret, how was the town supposed to win?
Out of 23 players, there were 11 scumbags.
The town power roles consisted of 2 doctors and a detective.
I assume almost all the town bar at least 4 were convertible (and most were converted).
HopAlongBunny
07-15-2013, 06:05
Congratulations to the Italian Mafia!
Thank you Ferret for an interesting game:bow:
Ferret, how was the town supposed to win?
Out of 23 players, there were 11 scumbags.
The town power roles consisted of 2 doctors and a detective.
I assume almost all the town bar at least 4 were convertible (and most were converted).
I was waiting for this question.
There were a few things things I did to try and give the town a chance. Yes it would always have been hard with so many mafia players, but bear in mind that they were all primarily trying to kill each other.
Every player that was recruited was given three options. They could ignore the invitation, join the mafia family as a mafia player or join the mafia family as a townie infiltrator (as edse did). Had edse been a bit more lucky he could have wiped out the Italians with a reveal.
The main power the town had though was your role, the guaranteed innocent mayor. I was expecting all the normal townies to contact the mayor and for the mayor to start inviting people to the quicktopic and getting townies to assist one of the doctors to start picking up XP. You'd have known if anyone wasn't being honest because they wouldn't have shown up for the night action (players who sent in joint night actions will know that the number and identity of people helping them was mentioned in the result PMs). In addition to this I was expecting you to have the detective feeding you information, with you soon learning to trust him when mafia players were lynched. Of course he was unable to that on account of the accursed day 1 lynch.
Unfortunately though the town didn't get this. The fact that one of the doctor's didn't send in a single night order certainly didn't help either. So all that was left was poor SalmonSoil keeping the mayor alive for little town gain.
Were the game to be played again and the four town power roles to survive the early rounds and all be active players, it could be a very different story.
White_eyes:D
07-15-2013, 19:10
Wait a second...did the french role only have a first-time defense against a night-kill or a lynch?:book:
3. You will survive the first time you would normally be killed (be it at night or by lynch)
Wouldn't that mean he should have died by lynch, since that would have been his second time dieing?:confused:
That "last day voting for myself thing" is likely going to be something I won't forget anytime soon...but I had a good laugh when I received it.:laugh4:
Guess that is all that counts really...good game to the Italians.:bow:
The attack on him the night previously simply failed according to the percentages above. Had that been a success then yes, he would have been lynched a day earlier.
LazyMcCrow
07-15-2013, 22:32
That was a great game. Thanks very much and well played the Italians. I thought you were French for a bit, but it's really all the same to a poor dead Russian anyway. TinCow, I had you pegged as Don, but that would have been a ballsy play for any don ;) GG
Askthepizzaguy
07-16-2013, 07:42
I had him pegged as the Don, too. And I was on the inside, so I knew for sure, he was definitely the Don, all the way up until the moment the game host told everyone he was not the Don.
Acting like a total baboon in the quicktopic, I've done stuff like that before, but Ishmael sounded exactly like Tincow always does. I didn't know who our killer was, but I figured our Don would steer me the right way if I trusted him.
Turns out, the baboon was Tincow, and I was a monkey's uncle.
LazyMcCrow
07-16-2013, 11:33
I haven't had time for the QTs yet, but will certainly look forward to the deep insight :)
Not much point in an anonymous QT if everyone can ID you based on the way you write.
El Barto
07-17-2013, 23:09
Not much point in an anonymous QT if everyone can ID you based on the way you write.
Reason why greentexting and telegram-like posting is necessary
Montmorency
07-22-2013, 11:49
A shame I was away for the ending. It's been a while since I've been to the last round.
Surviving 3 kill attempts as vanilla, though: that's priceless.
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