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Diana Abnoba
08-03-2013, 21:16
Agreed, no way we have 2 SK in a game this size, with no night kills. It just doesn't add up.
We need a sheriff to maintain order, this lawless anarchy will only prove bad for town.
rickinator9
08-03-2013, 22:33
We need a sheriff to maintain order, this lawless anarchy will only prove bad for town.
Yes, I agree we need a sheriff. We would be able to find any remaining scum or nasty surprises quicker. However, getting the sheriff brings us to a dilemma:
1: We need to lynch TinCow and elect a new Mayor to get a sheriff.
2: We need to let out TinCow and allow him to appoint a sheriff. There's no guarantee he will do that though.
3: We need to keep jailing TinCow and not get a sheriff.
I re-read the rules and set-up to get a little bit more of an idea of what could be going on.
If anything, I think it is even more likely that TinCow is the mafia hitman.
I believe SalmonSoil was actually mafia, but HopAlongBunny was likely innocent. Askthepizzaguy could be innocent as well, but there's no way of telling since we lynched him Day 1 and never got to see any night kills.
The only inconsistency here is that Jarema's "death miller" roles are supposed to be revealed as mafia on death, whereas HAB and ATPG were revealed as Serial Killers. It could be simply an oversight in the rules. I don't have an explanation for this game's progress if it isn't.
I think there's either one more mafia member, or TinCow is the last one. If we lynch TinCow, it is possible his killing power could transfer to the last mafioso.
Finally, it is also possible there is a cult. If there is, we are probably screwed because they have most likely been converting every night and we haven't lynched one. So I'm going to disregard that possibility simply because there's no point it trying if that's the case. I'm going to assume there is no cult, and the town can still win this game.
The sheriff can only track and protect. If there are no night kills and no night actions going on, then having a sheriff is pointless.
I want to lynch Makrell tomorrow.
Won't be a cult (less then 20 people).
In any case, a serial killer that hasn't killed is unlikely to be an actual serial killer.
FOS: Makrell, Rickinator we don't need a sheriff, he's useless to us.
rickinator9
08-04-2013, 02:27
FOS: Makrell, Rickinator we don't need a sheriff, he's useless to us.
I don't think so. Now, we can only lynch to (hopefully) find the scum. By having a sheriff, we would effectively double our efforts to find the baddies. He isn't essential though, since this game has been going into the town's favour(Town managed to eliminate the serial killer(ATPG) and most likely has the mafia hitman locked up).
I don't think so. Now, we can only lynch to (hopefully) find the scum. By having a sheriff, we would effectively double our efforts to find the baddies. He isn't essential though, since this game has been going into the town's favour(Town managed to eliminate the serial killer(ATPG) and most likely has the mafia hitman locked up).
That's if they killed. If TinCow decided to choose a sheriff, he would either choose one of his mafia buddies, or someone who is likely to be inactive.
You must remember, that kills are not the town's weapon, the lynch is. More lynches mean more chances at success.
rickinator9
08-04-2013, 02:58
That's if they killed. If TinCow decided to choose a sheriff, he would either choose one of his mafia buddies, or someone who is likely to be inactive.
You must remember, that kills are not the town's weapon, the lynch is. More lynches mean more chances at success.
Oh wait. I misread the Sheriffs abilities. I thought that it was a scan ability that would show the players alignment, but apparently it's a tracking ability. Disregard my previous statements, he is useless in this situation.
The only inconsistency here is that Jarema's "death miller" roles are supposed to be revealed as mafia on death, whereas HAB and ATPG were revealed as Serial Killers. It could be simply an oversight in the rules. I don't have an explanation for this game's progress if it isn't.
I am sorry. "Death miller" can be revealed as mafia, SK, or cult.
Won't be a cult (less then 20 people).
That's not what the rules say. The rules only say there won't be three factions with fewer than 20 people, it doesn't say which of the three groups will be the one dropped. The game could be SK/Mafia, SK/Cult, or Mafia/Cult.
If TinCow decided to choose a sheriff, he would either choose one of his mafia buddies, or someone who is likely to be inactive.
LOL, I'm not sure whether to be proud or sad that you think I'd be that crazy. If I were scum under this level of scrutiny ANYONE I appointed to Sheriff would automatically be suspected as a partner of mine and likely to be lynched eventually. Thus, anyone I appoint is unlikely to be scum. At the same time, appointing someone who is inactive is such a FU town move that I might as well just confess to being scum instead.
Oh wait. I misread the Sheriffs abilities. I thought that it was a scan ability that would show the players alignment, but apparently it's a tracking ability. Disregard my previous statements, he is useless in this situation.
It's not useless at all! If we've got a cult, they've been active every night. Just knowing that someone is doing something at night, ANYTHING, is proof that they are scum. You don't need to get alignment to prove that in this game.
FOS: Visor His ungodly train of inaccuracies continues. For someone who claims to be putting so much effort into analyzing this game, he's missing some pretty obvious points.
I'd say we let Tincow free on probation tomorrow. If he uses his moment of freedom to appoint a sheriff instead of killing, I see no reason not to give him more freedom.
It doesn't have to be the jailing of TinCow that prevents nightkills. Maybe we have an Irish doctor or a blocker too afraid to speak out.
Night was as peaceful as always.
Day 6 begins.
It doesn't have to be the jailing of TinCow that prevents nightkills. Maybe we have an Irish doctor or a blocker too afraid to speak out.
After 5 or so rounds of no kills, who would still be afraid to speak out?
Vote: Makrell
But I've got my eye on you.
Diana Abnoba
08-04-2013, 22:54
Vote: Makrell
Jail: TinCow
FOS: edse, rickinator9 (keeping an eye on the both of you, somethings just off)
Riedquat
08-04-2013, 23:57
Why are you voting Makrell exactly? I will vote him for keep hurting my eyes with that damned bright green...
I must concur with previous FoSing of rickinator9... and Visorslash... by Tincow :dizzy2:
Jail: Tincow
Damn what you guys are unfunny.
Jail: Everyone except TinCow
Vote: Diana Abnoba
Darth Feather
08-05-2013, 12:24
Jail: TinCow
Vote: Visor I think he is a cultist (because he ruled out a cult quickly).
vote: Diana Abnoba
jail: TinCow
I still tend to agree with Visor's reasoning of a couple of days ago, so I'm just working through the suspects.
Not voting for two days in a row (at risk of sudden WoG): johnhughthom
Not voting for one day in a row (i.e. yesterday): LazyMcCrow, TinCow, White Eyes
vote: Diana Abnoba
jail: TinCow
I still tend to agree with Visor's reasoning of a couple of days ago, so I'm just working through the suspects.
Laziness. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laziness)
Riedquat
08-05-2013, 20:58
Laziness. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laziness)
Is not laziness, it is convenience! Mr townie Visorslash pointed out how a normal townie Ishmael is... but before he was voting him because he wasn't so townish...
I don't like how things are going, and the lack of kills doesn't help, something is wrong and curiously I agree with Tincow in the FoSing of Visorslash... that is weird at least!
I say we keep the initial plan, we lynch the last member of teh counter wagon of Salmonsoil, clearance by lynch, if he is town, then we listen to him and his reasoning if not we follow with Ishmael!
Vote: Visorslash
Laziness. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laziness)
I see no reason (or case) to dispute the allegation. I have my ups and downs.
rickinator9
08-06-2013, 01:41
Jail: TinCow
Vote: Visor I think he is a cultist (because he ruled out a cult quickly).
Won't be a cult (less then 20 people).
I agree with DF. How can he say there won't be a cult if Jarema had one with less players! (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?595727-Savanna-Mafia)
Jail: TinCow
Vote: Visorslash
Not voting for one day in a row (i.e. yesterday): LazyMcCrow, TinCow, White Eyes
Sorry about that.
Vote: Visorslash
I agree with DF. How can he say there won't be a cult if Jarema had one with less players! (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?595727-Savanna-Mafia)
Jail: TinCow
Vote: Visorslash
Because this is a completely different game, with a completely different premise and setup. You couldn't be more scummy, though Diana is a good lynch too.
Definitely too late to save myself, but it doesn't really matter. I'll answer the few things remaining to me tomorrow, I'm quite tired at the moment.
In any case, good luck town, and I'll stick around after my death to give as much help as I can.
I just hope half the town isn't death millers, because that would be some bullshit. (:stare: I'm watching you Jarema)
Lynch ricki after this. Don't let him get away with acting scummier than scum lake.
johnhughthom
08-06-2013, 16:09
Sorry, Jarema, really busy recently.
Why are we still jailing TC, just lynch him already.
Vote: TinCow
Jail: Diana
White_eyes:D
08-06-2013, 17:10
Why are we still jailing TC, just lynch him already.
First post that has made sense to me out of this whole day phase....why kept jailing TinCow if you all think he is scum?:wall:
Better to lynch him and confirm it, rather then wasting a jail action on someone you all think to be scum.:book2:
Vote:TinCow
Jail:Visorslash
My internet is to terrible.
i need a replacement.
therefore i Elect: White_eyes
for now.
Riedquat
08-06-2013, 19:02
....why kept jailing TinCow if you all think he is scum?:wall:
Schrödinger's cow!
i need a replacement.
unlikely :(
Lynch:
Visorslash: Darth Feather, Riedquat, Rickinator, TinCow,
Diana Abnoba: Edse, Ishmael, Visorslash
TinCow: johnhughthom, White Eyes,
Makrell: Diana Abnoba
Jail:
TinCow: Diana Abnoba, Riedquat, Darth Feather, Ishmael, Rickinator, TinCow,
Diana Abnoba: johnhughthom
Visorslash: White Eyes
Town decided to lynch Visorslash. Among other things, because he denied there could be a cult in such a small village. Well, some had different opinion.
Visorslash was a cultist!
Night 6 begins.
Riedquat
08-06-2013, 21:30
Well... those are good and bad news... there is a cult... :/
I'm attempting to avoid feeling smug about this result, but I am failing miserably. I am all up in the smug at the moment.
Can we stop jailing me now?
Darth Feather
08-06-2013, 21:55
Wow, I was acually right about something. (I have a mixed feeling though.)
johnhughthom
08-06-2013, 21:58
Well... those are good and bad news... there is a cult... :/
Couldn't he be the death miller?
Riedquat
08-06-2013, 22:32
Couldn't he be the death miller?
In this game, there is a probability for that to be true too, but considering Visor's last post and all I really doubt it.
rickinator9
08-06-2013, 23:18
How about we let TinCow out of the jail next day? We NEED that sheriff to keep an eye on things now there can be a cult.
Couldn't he be the death miller?
I think the evidence is pretty strong that we've got multiple death millers. I think we all agree that HAB had to have been a death miller, not a SK. We also agree that it's unlikely for there to be SK, mafia, and cult in this game as per the OP. Even without HAB, we still have one of each, which means we're almost certainly looking at a second death miller. I'm torn on ATPG, but I think at the end of the day he's still the most likely to be a legit result due to his post-death comments. That leaves one of SalmonSoil or Visor. In that choice, I lean towards SS being the miller and Visor being legit, due largely to Visor's own posts throughout the game, particularly his last post before his death. I admit I'm rather excessively biased on this as I've believed SK+Cult was the most likely scenario for a long time now for obvious reasons, but that's my view.
Welp. Town is screwed.
I give up.
EDIT: I say we give TinCow free reign just for the lulz. I can't see it getting any worse. Also since we apparently have a cult, we ought to have a sheriff who can catch the recruiter in the act.
Diana Abnoba
08-07-2013, 01:18
Crap we have a cult, we're screwed, as they have been recruiting the whole game now. I thought in the set up of the game, jarema told us we wouldn't have all 3 (mafia, SK, and cult). Think we need to lynch TinCow and find out for sure what he really is, then we can regroup to find out what we are really hunting.
Tell me Jarema, did you make me a cultist death miller before or after I said there wasn't a cult? :laugh4:
In any case, I'm not a cultist and its really quite silly to think I am in the first place.
EDIT: I've come to the conclusion that death millers are a bit of a bastard role (especially in this game), because you have absolutely no idea who you are up against due to the fake reveals.
ATPG was a likely SK I agree with that. There is no reason to think Salmon isn't mafia, but I suppose it is in our best interest to lynch TC now, just to ensure we know what we're up against.
I would lynch Chaotix and Ricki after that.
http://cdn.memegenerator.co/instances/600x/40366122.jpg
If there is a cult, I'm frankly insulted that I haven't been invited yet. Get to it, please.
I agree that now is probably the time to lynch TinCow, as a tracker would be mighty helpful to confirm just what sort of scum factions we have going here. Alternatively we could wait another couple of days, since we've still got time to play with, but I'd prefer to be proactive here.
I thought in the set up of the game, jarema told us we wouldn't have all 3 (mafia, SK, and cult).
Confirmed. Only two of them.
SalmonSoil and HopAlongBunny being death millers would explain why there haven't been any kills.
I'm still mightily suspicious of TinCow and rickinator though.
Sorry for not voting, forgot to say that I was going to Poland for a few days.
Darth Feather
08-07-2013, 11:33
SalmonSoil and HopAlongBunny being death millers would explain why there haven't been any kills.
I'm still mightily suspicious of TinCow and rickinator though.
Sorry for not voting, forgot to say that I was going to Poland for a few days.
We could release TC for today. Should there suddenly be a kill, we lynch him.
We could release TC for today. Should there suddenly be a kill, we lynch him.
That's just silly, if he is the hitman, he simply won't kill.
I think the evidence is pretty strong that we've got multiple death millers. I think we all agree that HAB had to have been a death miller, not a SK. We also agree that it's unlikely for there to be SK, mafia, and cult in this game as per the OP. Even without HAB, we still have one of each, which means we're almost certainly looking at a second death miller. I'm torn on ATPG, but I think at the end of the day he's still the most likely to be a legit result due to his post-death comments. That leaves one of SalmonSoil or Visor. In that choice, I lean towards SS being the miller and Visor being legit, due largely to Visor's own posts throughout the game, particularly his last post before his death. I admit I'm rather excessively biased on this as I've believed SK+Cult was the most likely scenario for a long time now for obvious reasons, but that's my view.
With all those death millers, there must be somebody else who is guilty.
For instance the guy who was jailed during each night in which there were no kills.
I think it would be wise not to make too many assumptions about who was the dead miller and who wasn't. In the end, the likelihood of someone turning up as SK actually being an SK is higher than the likelihood of a random townie being SK. Speculation about death millers is an unnecessary distraction; assume that whoever turns up guilty, is guilty and carry on.
I'm sure a townie TinCow would agree with that line of thought; that's why I consider the post I quoted suspicious.
If you don't want to keep TinCow jailed, then at least lynch him. All this talk about death millers is distraction.
That's just silly, if he is the hitman, he simply won't kill.
Unless he is the Serial Killer and has to kill. Personally I wouldn't release him.
Jail him or lynch him.
Unless he is the Serial Killer and has to kill. Personally I wouldn't release him.
Jail him or lynch him.
By far the best course of action.
I think it would be wise not to make too many assumptions about who was the dead miller and who wasn't. In the end, the likelihood of someone turning up as SK actually being an SK is higher than the likelihood of a random townie being SK. Speculation about death millers is an unnecessary distraction; assume that whoever turns up guilty, is guilty and carry on.
I'm sure a townie TinCow would agree with that line of thought
Not bloody likely. I think it's rather important to figure out which actual factions we're dealing with here, particularly since the difference between the two is somewhat massive both in implications and in analysis. If we're dealing with mafia, then we're doing quite well due to the lack of kills. If we're dealing with a cult, then we're doing very poorly as they have been recruiting this entire time without us being aware of it. In addition, if it's mafia then the day phase where SalmonSoil got lynched is particularly worthy of analysis for tracking down the rest. If it's a cult, then the day phase where Visorslash got lynched is instead the worthy one for analysis. Plus, by your reasoning we should be assuming that we've had two SKs, a mafia, and a cult, even though the host has clearly said that's not the game setup. Why in the world would you want to accept a premise that you know to be false?
The only thing you said that I agree with is that if you think that there is a mafia in this game you should get it over with and lynch me. At least that will move the discussion forward a bit.
I didn't say we have to assume we have two SK's, a cult and mafia, I said that we should consider them all guilty and move on. There's no way to figure out who (if any) was a death miller and who was not. Just assume that who turns up guilty to be, in fact, guilty and move on from there.
Discussion about the alignment of the dead is a distraction.
Your post I quoted was about finding out the alignment of the death, but with no conclusion about the living attached to it.
Ergo, it was useless, since it are the living players that matter.
Making useless posts that give the impression that they are helpful, is mafia behaviour.
Insisting to have you lynched, doesn't clear you in the slightest. Didn't town lynch SalmonSoil because he told us about the role of hitman being passed through when the hitman dies (a plausible thesis, regardless of his alignment)?
If you're the (now very bored) hitman, then it would make sense for you to ask to be lynched. And if town decides not to lynch you, you get to live; win-win. And if they don't keep you jailed, you get to kill. And if you're lucky, town stays indecisive for another round or two after night kills and lynches somebody else. And if they do lynch you, it's ok too, since it is bound to happen anyway and at least you'll have the satisfaction to do a night kill.
Whatever is not the current status-quo, suits you well.
Your post I quoted was about finding out the alignment of the death, but with no conclusion about the living attached to it.
Ergo, it was useless, since it are the living players that matter.
Useless? Those are fightin' words, my friend. I admit that I said nothing about the living, but that was intentional. I have very specific theories on who is scum and who we should lynch next, but I'm still somewhat astonished that people are actually listening to me and thus I'm proceeding with baby steps. The first step in my theory involves assumptions on the death reveals. The second step then involves accusations about living players based on their interactions with lynchees and their behavior during specific voting periods. I was waiting to begin the second step after the discussion of the first had evolved somewhat.
Insisting to have you lynched, doesn't clear you in the slightest. Didn't town lynch SalmonSoil because he told us about the role of hitman being passed through when the hitman dies (a plausible thesis, regardless of his alignment)?
SalmonSoil was not cleared because he showed up as scum on his reveal. Surely you'll admit that anyone who flips as townie should be considered cleared?
Whatever is not the current status-quo, suits you well.
Damn right, I'm not exactly exuberant about the course of this game. This is the first time I've ever been elected Director in any mafia game. It has not turned out to be the supreme fun I expected it to be.
Hmm...
Second thought, we probably ought to lynch TinCow just so we can stop bickering about what to do with him.
With the threat of a cult, it's distracting from a possible real issue. And it's also a real possibility he's been innocent.
That said, if we let him live there will be people voting to lynch him every single round, and that's just not productive.
Confirmed. Only two of them.
So we have an SK/Cult "Mafia" game. ATPG was the SK, HAB and SalmonSoil millers and TinCow is innocent and confirmed non-cult (since he's been protected every night). Where's your Keanu now, Chaotix?
Everyting was peaceful.
Day 7 begins.
Riedquat
08-07-2013, 21:51
Dead:
1. Asktepizzaguy
2. B-Wing
3. SalmonSoil
4. Andres
5. HopAlongBunny
6. Visorslash
We are doing pretty well, aren't we? :laugh4:
Lets move on, Vote: Tincow and Jail: Rickinator9
Diana Abnoba
08-07-2013, 22:51
Confirmed. Only two of them.
Okay, then I was right we only have 2 factions. If we have a cult, then they have been recruiting each night phase (I would guess). So we have 13 alive players left, and this "cult" had 6 nights to recruit. So this would mean that 1/2 of the alive players would be cult by now. Does this really make sense? Game pretty much over or this would be our last lynch chance. What the SK was the only one able to kill in this game? And we got him on day 1. Yeah I don't think so. To me what makes more sense is that we have jailed the mafia hitman since night 1, we lynched the only SK day 1 with Pizza, and SS was mafia, but HAB wasn't a SK, and Visor wasn't a cultist. This is the only way we still have the game continue. If I'm wrong (and we do have a cult) we are screwed anyway.:wall:
Vote: Diana Abnoba
Jail: Chaotix
rickinator9
08-07-2013, 23:43
Visorslash wanted Diana gone. That makes her innocent in my mind.
Vote: Ishmael
Jail: Edse
for supporting Visorslash the previous day.
So we have an SK/Cult "Mafia" game. ATPG was the SK, HAB and SalmonSoil millers and TinCow is innocent and confirmed non-cult (since he's been protected every night). Where's your Keanu now, Chaotix?
Don't be stupid. You can't be certain of that.
What if ATPG was a death miller, and one or both of HAB and SalmonSoil were real mafia? And TinCow is their designated "hitman", as in the rules, which they can't kill without?
What if the cult is the one that is fake, and Visor was a death miller revealed as cult? Then any number of the rest of them could be real or death millers as well.
I think your call seems the most likely, but there's still no way to be certain. I think you're looking for a scapegoat to lynch today, and I'm not going to forget this. I still think we need to put TinCow to rest just so we can stop arguing over him. In my experience, leaving someone alive after he's been the subject of such suspicion always winds up being a) actual scum or b) a distraction from the scum later on, even though they're innocent. If we are not going to keep him in jail, I think we should lynch him.
Vote: TinCow, Jail: edse
Diana Abnoba
08-08-2013, 06:44
Okay I agree, we need to see how TinCow will flip. Enough with the jailing of him, it has become a distraction.
Vote: TinCow
Jail: edse
Darth Feather
08-08-2013, 09:13
Maybe the cult can recruit only every other night (to make it not overpowered?) It was the case in the Guess your Role mafia with the vampire role.
Still, I am for lynching TinCow. It will give at least some clarity.
Vote: TinCow
Jail: edse
johnhughthom
08-08-2013, 11:01
Vote: TC
Jail: Diana
I honestly have no idea what factions we likely have in this game now, which means I have no strong opinions on the jailing. Thus, I think I'll just vote for now.
vote: TinCow
Hopefully I'll have a better idea of what's happening after he flips, and after the night phase is over.
I'm not one for self-voting, but I'm going to make an exception in this case. Let it end, sweet sweet release.
Vote: TinCow
I'll post my recommended future lynches later today, have to go to a meeting in a few mins.
White_eyes:D
08-08-2013, 14:04
Personally, I have a feeling town is boned and that result from Visorslash was just the scum's way of messing with us.:mean:
That being said...TinCow needs to go.:shame: Vote:TinCow Jail:Diana
I fell Tincow is of no use for us.
Jail:Tincow
Vote:Tincow
Elect:Makrell
vote: rickinator9
Jail: TinCow
Because if the second faction is a cult then we've probably already lost but if it is the mafia then lynching TinCow will let them kill.
Finding out his alignment for sure would certainly be nice, but I'm not convinced it gives the town the best chance of victory.
What if ATPG was a death miller,
After his lynch, ATPG commented on the fact that he didn't try to save himself from being lynched because of how difficult it is to win as a SK. So unless he was just screwing with us (which would be awesome, but highly improbable), he was not a miller.
Lynch:
TinCow: Riedquat, Chaotix, Diana Abnoba, Darth Feather, johnhughthom, Ishmael, TinCow, White Eyes, Makrell
Diana Abnoba: Edse
Ishmael: Rickinator
Rickinator: Ferret
Jail:
Edse: Rickinator, Chaotix, Darth Feather, Diana Abnoba
TinCow: Makrell, Ferret
Chaotix: Edse,
Diana Abnoba: johnhughthom, White Eyes,
Rickinator: Riedquat
TinCow has been lynched
He was mafia!
Edse has been jailed.
Night begins. Would it be as quiet as before?
Took ya frickin' long enough. I would like to point out that the only murderers in this game have been the town. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
Ironically, SalmonSoil was a miller. It was a cruel shame my vote didn't land on him that round, though I suppose Visor's (presumably) milleritude made up for it a bit.
Riedquat
08-09-2013, 21:50
Edse has been lynched.
Jailed! ... I hope
Took ya frickin' long enough. I would like to point out that the only murderers in this game have been the town. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
Ironically, SalmonSoil was a miller. It was a cruel shame my vote didn't land on him that round, though I suppose Visor's (presumably) milleritude made up for it a bit.
Aww man. Now I'm having second thoughts. We should have just left you jailed for the entire game.
Imagine how entertaining it might have been, watching ScumCow's head finally explode in rage and frustration that he landed a mafia role, was never able to do anything with it, and survived to the end of the game, helpless, due to no effort of his own.
Freeing up the jail for CultEdse is a poor consolation. Is your last remaining scum buddy going to start killing now, Mr. Hitman, or are you guys all tired out from not doing anything this whole game?
Is your last remaining scum buddy going to start killing now, Mr. Hitman, or are you guys all tired out from not doing anything this whole game?
Given the name of the game, I think it would be very appropriate if there was never a single night kill.
Bloody well told you. :laugh4: SK can't fight off a cult.
Jailed! ... I hope
of course
Diana Abnoba
08-10-2013, 13:33
Hey Jarema, do we have a vote switcher or someone that can mess with the votes for lynch and jail, or are you just really bad at counting votes. :laugh4: It's been several times now that I have noticed that the votes from some players were not on the players that they picked to vote. Ex: my vote was on edse to jail not Chaotix. It doesn't seem to make a difference in who does get lynched or jailed so far, but it may in the future when we are down in numbers. Town please note this, just in case.
Hey Jarema, do we have a vote switcher or someone that can mess with the votes for lynch and jail, or are you just really bad at counting votes. :laugh4: It's been several times now that I have noticed that the votes from some players were not on the players that they picked to vote. Ex: my vote was on edse to jail not Chaotix. It doesn't seem to make a difference in who does get lynched or jailed so far, but it may in the future when we are down in numbers. Town please note this, just in case.
I am very sorry. It seems that I am almost always tired these days. I will try to double-check all.
Bensch family's dinners progressed as always. Frau Bensch cooked three dishes and served them. Then, grandfather Joseph started to eat.
'Joseph!' his wife shouted. 'You should pray first!'
'ja, ja. Shut up and eat'
'Someday, God will punish you, you coot'.
And at the following night, it seems, God did his job. Grandfather Joseph was found dead at his lavatory. It seemed that he had a heart attack.
But after closer examination, few bullets were found in his belly.
'Thats for you, my father', whispered young Kowalski. 'For you, and our Lord Jesus'.
Ferret was innocent
Day 8 begins.
Elect: edse in case we can choose a new Mayor.
if not, Jail: edse, it was cosy.
Vote: Chaotix, for calling me cult.
I forgot to add:
you are electing new mayor today.
Unjail: Jail: Diana Abnoba
Diana Abnoba
08-11-2013, 02:36
Damn it, knew we should have kept that Cow locked up for the whole game. Well at least I feel that this confirms that we have a mafia faction and had a SK, but no cult (or game would be over).
Vote: Rickinator
Jail: Ishmael
Elect: Riedquat
Damn it, knew we should have kept that Cow locked up for the whole game. Well at least I feel that this confirms that we have a mafia faction and had a SK, but no cult (or game would be over).
Vote: Rickinator
Jail: Ishmael
Elect: Riedquat
No confirmation on the Serial Killer, as we've never actually had a kill by an SK.
I agree it seems like the most likely case is that ATPG was an SK (especially since he made something of an admission by non-denial), but it's still possible the cult is real.
For that matter, vote: edse. I never called you cult. I called you suspicious. Wishful thinking? Freudian slip? Some other blanket suspicion term?
Elect: Riedquat, because I don't want scumedse to be mayor.
What?
If you don't vote to lynch Chaotix now, I'll be very disappointed.
What?
If you don't vote to lynch Chaotix now, I'll be very disappointed.
If there's a reason why edse is clearly and obviously innocent, please do point it out to me.
I will admit that I haven't been paying my utmost attention and most of my votes have been just guesses based on the moment. Still, it seems to be working so far, if slightly less impressive because at least half of my successes have to be death millers.
For that matter, vote: edse. I never called you cult. I called you suspicious. Wishful thinking? Freudian slip? Some other blanket suspicion term?
Elect: Riedquat, because I don't want scumedse to be mayor.
Freeing up the jail for CultEdse is a poor consolation. Is your last remaining scum buddy going to start killing now, Mr. Hitman, or are you guys all tired out from not doing anything this whole game?
I wanted us to release TinCow for a night and see what happen instead of lynching him directly because this was the most likely result, a new killer (and it clearly isn't me since I was jailed)
Darth Feather
08-11-2013, 08:41
I wanted us to release TinCow for a night and see what happen instead of lynching him directly because this was the most likely result, a new killer (and it clearly isn't me since I was jailed)
I must say edse makes some valid point. Either he is cult or he is not evil.
Elect: Darth Feather I promise to try to have justice for most.
Vote: Chaotix For lying. (He did call edse cult)
Jail: Diana Abnoba Another cleared townie (if succesfull) or lynchable scumbag
There is absolutely no reason to vote edse, there was a kill while he was jailed.
Lynch Chaotix.
There is absolutely no reason to vote edse, there was a kill while he was jailed.
This is true. You can chalk this up to my own stupidity/not paying attention. edse is clearly not the night killer.
Unvote
I'm just gonna wait and see what other people have to say before I open my mouth and say something stupid again.
It's not just that. All your posts have the smell of scum around them. I'd lynch you and jail Diana Abnoba.
rickinator9
08-11-2013, 14:47
I think Chaotix would make a good mayor. He hasn't done anything very bad for town as far as I know
Elect: Chaotix
Vote: Diana Abnoba
Jail: Chaotix To make sure he's not scum.
Edit: Is it just me or do a lot of people need to get a WOG?
Mayor
2 Riedquat: Diana Abnoba, Chaotix
1 edse: edse
1 Darth Feather: Darth Feather
1 Chaotix: rickinator9
Lynch
2 Chaotix: edse, Darth Feather
1 rickinator9: Diana Annons
1 Diana Abnoba: rickinator9
Jail
2 Diana Abnoba: edse, Darth Feather
1 Ishmael: Diana Annons
1 Chaotix: rickinator9
6 No Vote: LazyMcCrow, Makrell, White_Eyes:D, Riedquat, johnhughtom, Ishmael
I can't do that "mention" thing, otherwise I would notify them all.
Darth Feather
08-11-2013, 17:07
[B]
I can't do that "mention" thing, otherwise I would notify them all.
Just put @ before their name edse
LazyMcCrow, Makrell, White_eyes:D, Riedquat, johnhughthom, Ishmael
Spam.
johnhughthom
08-11-2013, 18:25
Mayor: edse
Vote: Chaotix
Jail: Diana
thank you, Edse.
I have a question to you all.
According to my rules, I should WoG Lazy soon. But I feel uncomfortable with that, as he asked for replacement, and told about his leave in advance.
Should I WoG him anyway?
rickinator9
08-11-2013, 20:12
If you can't find any replacements, you might as well WOG him in my opinion.
Darth Feather
08-11-2013, 20:43
If you can't find any replacements, you might as well WOG him in my opinion.
Or you could give him an honourable suicide. (I mean, he did say in advance he was not able to continue playing)
thank you, Edse.
I have a question to you all.
According to my rules, I should WoG Lazy soon. But I feel uncomfortable with that, as he asked for replacement, and told about his leave in advance.
Should I WoG him anyway?
You may consider finding a replacement among the already-dead players of this game as well, if you're sure that it won't affect the game setup.
Otherwise it should be fine to WoG him. The Gameroom is not as active as it used to be, and you can't be blamed for not being able to find a player. Ultimately the responsibility does still fall on the player who signed up, even if he gave you advance notice that he would have to back out - in that case usually not signing up at all is the best option.
That may sound harsh, but I mean no offense to Lazy by it; it's simply true that a game is better off smaller with a fully active player base than larger but with inactives, as in the second case you are essentially just inflating the roster with 'filler' roles that exist only to die.
I've had my suspicions of Diana for most of the game, and wouldn't mind lynching her today. With that said, I don't want to split the vote, and jailing works just as well.
vote: Chaotix
jail: Diana Abnoba
elect: Darth Feather
After this I'd suggest jailing/lynching Riedquat and Makrell, but if they're clean I'm out of suspects.
Riedquat
08-12-2013, 03:36
Pff...Pff...Pff... uh... To be honest I lost track of everything going on in this game, I wonder why are you electing me as mayor? Or why Ishmael wants me dead? :inquisitive:
For the time being I vote/jail/elect: abstain
White_eyes:D
08-12-2013, 07:49
After this I'd suggest jailing/lynching Riedquat and Makrell, but if they're clean I'm out of suspects. As far as I am concerned, it's just a matter of time until the remaining scum is lynched unless we do have a cult...in which case I refer you to the "We are boned" post I made earlier.:book:
Vote:Chaotix
Jail:Diana
Elect:edse
I must admit I am liking this "Jail" action though.:2thumbsup:
I told you guys not to let TinCow out, now look what you've done to me.
FoS: Chaotix and rickinator
Those two are just so suspicious.
Riedquat
08-12-2013, 13:45
Still lost but suspicious about the people voting me for mayor, perhaps not enough to lynch them but enough to jail them.
Un-jail/un-elect; jail: Diana, elect: Darth Feather
I demand that all Mayors be jailed. It's tradition.
Riedquat
08-12-2013, 15:06
I demand that all Mayors be jailed. It's tradition.
For a couple of days at least, and then lynched no?
For a couple of days at least, and then lynched no?
Who are we to question the wisdom of our ancestors?
Mayor
3 edse: edse, johnhughthom, White_eyes:D
3 Darth Feather: Darth Feather, Ishmael, Riedquat
2 Riedquat: Diana Abnoba, Chaotix
1 Chaotix: rickinator9
Lynch
5 Chaotix: edse, Darth Feather, johnhughthom, Ishmael, White_eyes:D
1 rickinator9: Diana Abnoba
1 Diana Abnoba: rickinator9
Jail
6 Diana Abnoba: edse, Darth Feather, johnhughthom, Ishmael, White_eyes:D, Riedquat
1 Ishmael: Diana Abnoba
1 Chaotix: rickinator9
2 No Vote: LazyMcCrow, Makrell
It is so nice when I come and I want to create tally, and I see someone else did it for me
Thank you so much, Edse
Mayor
3 edse: edse, johnhughthom, White_eyes:D
3 Darth Feather: Darth Feather, Ishmael, Riedquat
2 Riedquat: Diana Abnoba, Chaotix
1 Chaotix: rickinator9
Lynch
5 Chaotix: edse, Darth Feather, johnhughthom, Ishmael, White_eyes:D
1 rickinator9: Diana Abnoba
1 Diana Abnoba: rickinator9
Jail
6 Diana Abnoba: edse, Darth Feather, johnhughthom, Ishmael, White_eyes:D, Riedquat
1 Ishmael: Diana Abnoba
1 Chaotix: rickinator9
2 No Vote: LazyMcCrow, Makrell
Majority of villagers decided that it is time for Chaotix to hang.
He was innocent
Later, it was decided that Edse would be new mayor.
Diana Abnoba was jailed.
IvantheFox replaces LazyMcCrow! Please welcome new mafia player here.
Night 8 begins.
Chaotix was clearly scum. The fact that he showed as innocent can only mean that the mafia themselves have death millers in their ranks. In fact, I bet everyone is a death miller. That would mean that ATPG, SalmonSoil, HAB, Visor, and myself were all innocent townies and B-Wing, Andres, and Ferret were scum. I think that would explain a lot of what has been going on here. :yes:
Darth Feather
08-12-2013, 21:54
If the town loses I am going to blame it on the fact that I didn't become a major. :smug:
rickinator9
08-12-2013, 22:01
If the town loses I am going to blame it on the fact that I didn't become a major. :smug:
Can't you use the force to find the killer?
Good. Perhaps now that the town has aired out its built-up stupidity, we can get down to scum hunting again.
Askthepizzaguy
08-13-2013, 08:36
That would mean that ATPG, SalmonSoil, HAB, Visor, and myself were all innocent townies and B-Wing, Andres, and Ferret were scum.
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Darth Feather
08-13-2013, 19:32
Can't you use the force to find the killer?
The dark side clouds everything, padawan rickinator.
Body of old Evan MacKenzie was found at the middle of market. His kilt was curled, but there were no signs of sexual molestation. Instead, villagers who examined the body found a hole in his head. That could explain, why he was dead. Anyway, his reign as a mayor can be described as short. Edse was innocent
New sheriff was appointed.
Day 9 begins.
Please vote for lynch, for jailing someone, and for a new mayor
Elect Diana.
And don't forget to jail the person you want for Mayor #4.
Riedquat
08-13-2013, 22:24
Why we need a mayor now? we have a sheriff, only edse knows who he is, and if something happens to the sheriff we elect a new mayor the day after to get a new sheriff, there is no way to make it quicker. Thoughts, opinions?
Mana Æ Varyl
08-13-2013, 22:34
[You guys still want a replacement? I've read everything in this game and am interested, I have a tiny bit of mafia experience too, if that matters, never played a game on here though...]
[You guys still want a replacement? I've read everything in this game and am interested, I have a tiny bit of mafia experience too, if that matters, never played a game on here though...]
Right now not. But it can change if someone is missing (I will replace player who is inactive for 3 days).
Diana Abnoba
08-14-2013, 05:53
Thanks town, so glad you guys put me in jail last night, I really had a restful sleep. :bow::laugh4:
johnhughthom
08-14-2013, 08:34
Yeah, we noticed the bags under the eyes, thought you might need it.
[You guys still want a replacement? I've read everything in this game and am interested, I have a tiny bit of mafia experience too, if that matters, never played a game on here though...]
LYNCH HIM! DIE, YOU MAFIA SCUM, DIE!
Also, welcome to the Gameroom ~:wave:
Darth Feather
08-14-2013, 19:58
Elect: Diana. Probably the safest bet.
Vote: Rickinator. For pushing for the sherrif (and unjailing TinCow)
Jail: White_Eyes:D To get another townie (hopefully)
anyone would be so nice to make a mid-day tally for me?
(I know, I am lazy. But I am drunk too. And that explains me)
Riedquat
08-14-2013, 20:59
Elect: Diana. Probably the safest bet.
Vote: Rickinator. For pushing for the sherrif (and unjailing TinCow)
Jail: White_Eyes:D To get another townie (hopefully)
You wanted to be mayor, we better jail you tonight and if something bad happens to Diana we'll have a replacement tomorrow. But again, I must ask, why we need a mayor now?
rickinator9
08-14-2013, 21:01
Elect: Diana. Probably the safest bet.
Vote: Rickinator. For pushing for the sherrif (and unjailing TinCow)
Jail: White_Eyes:D To get another townie (hopefully)
And what's bad with pushing for a sheriff, huh? Sounds like you just want an excuse to lynch me.
Elect: Diana
Vote: Darth Feather
Jail: White Eyes. I haven't seen many scummy posts, other than the one ^ here. I say we should go over everyone one-by-one.
You wanted to be mayor, we better jail you tonight and if something bad happens to Diana we'll have a replacement tomorrow. But again, I must ask, why we need a mayor now?
Because that person can coordinate with the Sheriff as they are guaranteed to not be scum.
Riedquat
08-14-2013, 21:01
anyone would be so nice to make a mid-day tally for me?
(I know, I am lazy. But I am drunk too. And that explains me)
Elect: Diana. Probably the safest bet.
Vote: Rickinator. For pushing for the sherrif (and unjailing TinCow)
Jail: White_Eyes:D To get another townie (hopefully)
That is the tally!! Only DF voted so far! Bah... it was the only voting when you asked, now Ricky messed up my tally! :P
Election:
Diana: 2 (Ricky and DF)
Jailing:
WE:D: 2 (Ricky and DF)
Voting:
DF: 1 Rickinator
Ricky: 1 DF
That is the tally!! Only DF voted so far!
lol!
That is true!
Riedquat
08-14-2013, 21:11
Because that person can coordinate with the Sheriff as they are guaranteed to not be scum.
I can't take anything as guaranteed in this game...look at the host, he is drunk!!! :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
08-14-2013, 22:06
Elect: Diana. Probably the safest bet.
Vote: Rickinator. For pushing for the sherrif (and unjailing TinCow)
Jail: White_Eyes:D To get another townie (hopefully)
Throw them in prison. Then elect them to public office!
Only in America. Brings a tear to me eye.
Ivanthefox
08-14-2013, 23:12
So who's the most suspicious of all of the candidates? I guess I might as well wait to see the general opinion, unless no one votes until the last minute. :thinking:
Diana Abnoba
08-15-2013, 00:41
Elect: Diana
Jail: White_Eyes:D
Vote: Rickinator
White_eyes:D
08-15-2013, 01:41
Elect: Diana
Vote: Rickinator
Jail:White_eyes:D
Might as well get it over with...I really don't see why we need to put me next to the dead TinCow though.:sweatdrop:
Diana Abnoba
08-15-2013, 07:06
Don't worry White_eyes TinCow isn't in the jail cell anymore, remember we took him out and hung him. Besides I tidied up the place last night, and and hung some real pretty curtains to cover those unsightly bars. :clown:
Rickinator was one of the few not voting to either lynch or jail TinCow back on D2, so he seems a reasonable choice. That added to my earlier suspicions also makes me want to 'scan' Riedquat tomorrow, via either lynching or jailing him. I have a vague recollection that Darth Feather has been at least partially cleared by something, but I can't recall what - I'll check it out in more detail next day phase.
vote: rickinator9
jail: White_eyes:D
elect: Diana Abnoba
Riedquat
08-15-2013, 14:04
Rickinator was one of the few not voting to either lynch or jail TinCow back on D2, so he seems a reasonable choice. That added to my earlier suspicions also makes me want to 'scan' Riedquat tomorrow, via either lynching or jailing him.
Agree about Rickinator and I really prefer be cleared by jail, thank you very much. And of course, after you confirm I'm townquat this time around we can clear you too for the method you prefer. :)
Elect: abstain
Vote: Rickinator
Jail: WE:D
Ivanthefox
08-15-2013, 15:48
Elect: Diana Abnoba
Vote: Rickinator
Jail: Diana Abnoba
johnhughthom
08-15-2013, 18:37
Boo. Pointless to vote really. Sheep.
Elect: Me
Vote: Riedquat
Jail: Diana
can someone do the tally for me?
Riedquat
08-16-2013, 19:49
Election:
Diana Abnoba: 6 (ricky, df, diana, ishmael, Ivanthefox, we:D)
jht: 1 (jht)
Jail:
White Eyes: 6 (ricky, df, we:D, ishmael, diana, riedq)
Diana: 2 (ivan, jht)
Lynch:
Rickinator: 6 (df, we, ishmael, riedq, ivan, diana)
Riedquat: 1 (jht)
DF: 1 (rickinator)
Please recheck! I counted all votes, the un-properly formatted too but probably messed something up somewhere :P
Rickinator was lynched.
He was mafia!
Game ended. Town victorry
Roles:
ATPG: serial killer
Tincow: mafia hitman
Rickinator: second mafia
SalmonSoil: miller (mafia)
Makrel: miller (mafia)
Visorslash: miller (cult)
Riedquat: miller (cult)
HopAlongBunny: miller (SK)
So, there were two mafia and one serial killer. And five dead millers. Town managed to lynch almost every miller.
mafia qt: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/m8rgdcXNFV2L
Thanks for the game, and the most thorough ass-kicking I have ever received. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
08-16-2013, 21:53
I just want to point out that you won when you elected Diana as mayor.
That is all!
Thanks for hosting Jarema! Nicely played town, but I do have to feel sorry for the mafia. Blind luck pretty much doomed them from the start.
If there were to be an award for most unlucky scum in a mafia game, ATPG, TC and Rickinator9 would win it.
Thanks for hosting Jarema :bow:
Diana Abnoba
08-17-2013, 04:18
I just want to point out that you won when you elected Diana as mayor.
That is all!
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: Thanks Pizza, yeah I finally get my chance at Mayor and game over. That's okay we won.
Thanks for hosting Jarema, Nicely played town, but yeah do feel a bit sorry for the mafia when we tied their hands keeping TinCow in jail for so long, but just a little bit.~;)
Askthepizzaguy
08-17-2013, 08:17
Are you kidding? That was hilarious.
As for me, serial killers are tough to win with. It's the only faction that can lose with a single misplay. Mafia and town can afford to make mistakes, SK's lose with one. I'm not too worried about a loss as SK- if you get lynched right off the bat, that's that. No sense crying about it.
Hahaha oh wow.
Great game Jarema, I had no idea what was going on the whole time! (Personally, I think that is the number one sign of a great game :clown:)
Philosophical Question:
When townies kill each other daily while mafia and serial killers don't murder anyone at all, who is the real scum in the game?
Gold.
HopAlongBunny
08-17-2013, 12:08
Thank you for the game Jarema :2thumbsup:
Sweet. Thanks for the game Jarema. TC/Ricki got unlucky definitely. Good job town.
I had a nagging feeling that I had to be a death miller for a cult when I was going to be lynched. Just seemed right considering I was so anti cult. Enjoyed it though.
Riedquat
08-17-2013, 17:05
Wow... unexpected! I had the feeling I was going to be lynched for playing the clueless townie for so long :)
johnhughthom
08-17-2013, 17:14
Thanks for the game, Jarrema. Well played townies who contributed.
Sweet. Thanks for the game Jarema. TC/Ricki got unlucky definitely. Good job town.
I had a nagging feeling that I had to be a death miller for a cult when I was going to be lynched. Just seemed right considering I was so anti cult. Enjoyed it though.
Poetic justice :)
I want to thanks you all for participating in the game; level of activity was high which was nice.
I will write more tommorow, as today js my son's birthsday
White_eyes:D
08-17-2013, 21:32
Are you kidding? That was hilarious. I second that...I did feel bad for TinCow eventually though. I kept wondering why town keep TinCow around for so long before lynching him...he was even stating that no matter what he said town wouldn't free him.:laugh4:
It was a bit anticlimactic for it to end with so many townies still left alive....but good game all and thanks for hosting Jarema.:bow:
I have to say, keeping TC in jail for as long as we did is probably the single most important factor in town winning the game.
No mafia kills meant we had all the time in the world to make mistakes... and we DID make a lot of mistakes. Think about it, besides getting ATPG Day 1, every single lynch before TinCow was a failure, just narrowing the playing field.
Darth Feather
08-30-2013, 16:49
A pity I missed the climax due to holiday, but town won yay!!
LazyMcCrow
09-02-2013, 20:25
Back!. Sorry I missed most of the game Jarema - it was turly unavoidable - thanks as always for hosting. I enjoyed the start and hope that I can take some credit for the decision to both elect TinCow as mayor... and jail him :_) Any more games going?
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