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vote: hanky
well rip i guess
lol have fun losers
GeneralHankerchief
11-09-2016, 03:59
Vote: Zack
GeneralHankerchief
11-09-2016, 03:59
Vote: Zack
was hoping you wouldn't fix the bold :(
GeneralHankerchief
11-09-2016, 04:00
Well, so much for that effort :laugh4:
Synecdoche
11-09-2016, 04:00
Day 2 Final Vote Tally as of post 504:
Lynch votes
6 votes: Zack (Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722145#post2053722145), BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722187#post2053722187), Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722209#post2053722209), El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722376#post2053722376), Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722379#post2053722379), GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722397#post2053722397))
5 votes: GeneralHankerchief (NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722136#post2053722136), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722175#post2053722175), Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722343#post2053722343), Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722378#post2053722378), Zack (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722395#post2053722395))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Sooh (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722177#post2053722177))
1 votes: El Barto (seireikhaan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722201#post2053722201))
1 votes: Cuthillius (Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722221#post2053722221))
1 votes: Scarlett Aria (novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722251#post2053722251))
Voting history:
GeneralHankerchief
zack
GeneralHankerchief
Al Sips
GeneralHankerchief
Zack
El Barto
Zack
Dp101
Cuthillius
Scarlett Aria
seireikhaan
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Zack
El Barto
Zack
GeneralHankerchief
Zack
Al Sipsclar
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Zack
DAY HAS ENDED. NO MORE POSTING.
Synecdoche
11-09-2016, 04:02
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0J0bZ3Ho-3v6KMxdjPW7K_M-5ejcCkRXELFU_1xHLqZNwsuje9YUsDdc0BKyywVZR5DSxIHYOvI-hDfWBviIvFJcQtL2OM3HAuCgfh1emqDGKoJ8zw_6_0yBUsczSsec7L-0zLaA
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nM_BLvZijtRlIyYpKgwNoqU-iLgEg8_gcf8DewST-ziQZaVSZK1_T8vLclW8TYWllm9T-DHaYiFwvbRUe7hwVIF9TH_hIg4IWX8RLWVLq9HFT5D0KqevrJ2Xugh2SUYkkMEnpPmT
You were proud to be something unique and different. In your heart of hearts, you knew that you were destined for something special - after all, your shape, texture, and key ingredients were different from everyone else you knew! You were not made from plain, boring old wheat flour.
When you were but a thought in your creator’s mind, you already knew that you would be a hit. Your golden-brown surface, glistening with the smile you so broadly displayed as you basked in the glory of the florescent lights gleaming on the bakery counter, would attract many, you felt.
But by the end of the day, even your baker forgot that you had existed. Many people walked past you to gaze at the more stunning creations that were displayed next to you - here a gorgeous multi-layered strawberry shortcake, there a unbelievably intricate stained-glass cake, and you name it.
So there you were, left all on your lonesome. Your brethren had been sold already, and you were the last piece of bread of your kind.
Alone you sat, into the wee hours of the morning. About halfway through, you began to feel very strange.
When the baker came in to take inventory and tidy up the shop, to both of your horrors, she let out a disgusted cry at the sight of you.
“Mold! Well, I guess this one can no longer be sold.”
With that, you were tossed away, and your wounds festered as the mold ate away at the fibers of your being, even as you lay dying, lonely and forgotten.
@Zack (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=59017) was:
Hi Zack,
Cornbread
You are a slice of cornbread (aka Vanilla Town).
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/1QfQit2IZOcO0DGrCHY31fvXspBcR7ZeVSiDNrlfYbe5CnIpowMXrQg03AVozgOLRE5LNHxQJk75czYNBeK_ijaxJqN2EjKZ1iU7 R72T21uvw0YC_bLmdB_gOaVWugQdXFeDF4lj
Win Conditions:
[*=1]You win if all threats to town are eliminated, and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Abilities:
[*=1]You're the best thing since sliced bread. Lol jk. You have no abilities. Your minimal strength comes from your vote. Hopefully the bacteria you've picked up from rolling around on the ground have mutated far enough to give you intellect.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/FVzOcJwGRphqjTbIFt1RmznJHDH4ZyaFBwdxdGCdqhDQYH7K0rRi6-ebWERckDXsZ3x_VV64wafG73n4RVJpo5xgrZWe-o3QqGBDBTrUvfF7NRXW-PDedBuF5l5-4iWshlSgNXmN
1. @Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23872)
2. @El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=93318)
3. @Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100377)
5. @Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=13388)
6. @BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=94273)
7. @novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100369)
8. @Choxorn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=53365)
9. @GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=16104)
10. @Zack (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=59017)
11. @Sooh (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99877)
12. @Winston Hughes (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=49887)
13. @Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99974)
14. @Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=98969)
15. @Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100062)
16. @NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100414)
17. @Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100057)
18. @seireikhaan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22831)
Night has begun. No more posting!
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Day 3 begins on 10:00 PM EST on 11/9/16. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20161109T22&p0=179&msg=Time+until+End+of+Night+2%2FStart+of+Day+3&font=cursive&csz=1)
Synecdoche
11-09-2016, 04:08
The OP (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721270&viewfull=1#post2053721270) has been updated with the live player list and the deaths.
Live player list for your reference:
1. @Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23872)
2. @El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=93318)
3. @Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100377)
5. @Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=13388)
6. @BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=94273)
7. @novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100369)
9. @GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=16104)
11. @Sooh (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99877)
13. @Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99974)
14. @Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=98969)
15. @Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100062)
16. @NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100414)
17. @Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100057)
18. @seireikhaan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22831)
Synecdoche
11-10-2016, 04:00
https://i.imgur.com/dlCi8WM.gif
https://i.imgur.com/rfJHHqY.jpg?2
seireikhaan was walking home when he was cordially greeted from behind. He turned around to face a smiling man.
“Hello, I'm sorry, but have we met before?” asked seireikhaan.
“No, not really, but I was looking for you.”
“Why?” seireikhaan replied, suspicious.
“I have the intention to invite you into our organization. The Gluten Free World Organization will be proud to count you as a member!”
“Oh thank you, I would gladly join you, but I'm afraid I'm not gluten free, so I must decline your kind offer. Thank you anyway!”
seireikhaan turned around to go his own way. The smiling man looked a bit disappointed, but then took his shiny tool out of his pocket and aimed it at seireikhaan's back.
Shhhhwiiiiiinnnng!
Seireikhaan disintegrated in a fine cloud of gluten-free dust.
@seireikhaan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22831) was:
Hi seireikhaan,
Mille Feuille
You are a mille feuille (aka 1-shot JOAT).
https://i.imgur.com/SNTCV7O.jpg?1
Win Conditions:
[*=1]You win if all threats to town are eliminated, and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Abilities:
[*=1]You are complex, layered, yet quite light on the tastebuds. Once per game, during the night phase, you have your choice of one of four night actions: a 1-shot watch, a 1-shot RB, a 1-shot doc, and a 1-shot vig. Your 1-shot doc will only save your target from one kill if they are targeted by multiple.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/FVzOcJwGRphqjTbIFt1RmznJHDH4ZyaFBwdxdGCdqhDQYH7K0rRi6-ebWERckDXsZ3x_VV64wafG73n4RVJpo5xgrZWe-o3QqGBDBTrUvfF7NRXW-PDedBuF5l5-4iWshlSgNXmN
1. @Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23872)
2. @El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=93318)
3. @Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100377)
5. @Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=13388)
6. @BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=94273)
7. @novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100369)
9. @GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=16104)
11. @Sooh (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99877)
13. @Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99974)
14. @Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=98969)
15. @Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100062)
16. @NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100414)
17. @Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100057)
18. @seireikhaan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22831)
Day has started. You may post!
Day 3 ends on 11/11 at 10:00 PM EST. (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20161111T22&p0=179&msg=Time+until+End+of+D3%2FStart+of+N3&font=cursive&csz=1)
(sorry for the delay. Please PM me if you have any questions or complaints :P)
Live player list for your reference:
1. @Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=23872)
2. @El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=93318)
3. @Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100377)
5. @Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=13388)
6. @BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=94273)
7. @novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100369)
9. @GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=16104)
11. @Sooh (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99877)
13. @Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=99974)
14. @Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=98969)
15. @Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100062)
16. @NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100414)
17. @Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100057)
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 04:29
Hmm, I feel like some of the posters are just getting away saying very little
I still don't understand the kills, maybe the aim is to kill those who don't talk at all so that town gets no info? If people could post more this would help, I'm tired of not having much to work from.
Atpg not attracting any attention means he's probably scum.
Scarlett angling for low hanging fruit.
I believe GH to be town.
Still going with vote: Cuth.
Riedquat
11-10-2016, 05:18
I need to reevaluate my previous assessments about Barto then...:/
Khaan accused and voted him because not acting vanilla... vote: El Barto?
Riedquat
11-10-2016, 05:24
I still don't understand the kills, maybe the aim is to kill those who don't talk at all so that town gets no info? If people could post more this would help, I'm tired of not having much to work from.
:inquisitive: Isn't the other way around?
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 05:25
Atpg not attracting any attention means he's probably scum.
Scarlett angling for low hanging fruit.
I believe GH to be town.
Still going with vote: Cuth.
Explain why you find me angling for lhf odd? I come from a site that has lhf in later days to be more likely to flip scum than town.
Explain why you find me angling for lhf odd? I come from a site that has lhf in later days to be more likely to flip scum than town.
Call it gut Alette. Feels like you're trying to gauge if you can get away with targeting low hanging fruit with your first post.
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 08:16
Call it gut Alette. Feels like you're trying to gauge if you can get away with targeting low hanging fruit with your first post.
I've specifically said twice "i'm not going for low voters at this moment" but now that they still haven't really said much I want to push them.
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 08:35
Vote: Al Sips
I really haven't felt great about him and his posts are fairly neutral.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 09:32
Atpg not attracting any attention means he's probably scum.
Scarlett angling for low hanging fruit.
I believe GH to be town.
Still going with vote: Cuth.
You believe I am scum and Cuth is scum and that I tried to lynch him d1.
You seem to be indicating you think Scarlett is scum, another person I have tried to get support for lynching.
I don't believe you believe that universe.
Vote: Newyn
The result of yesterday's voting was pretty terrible. I feel like we got bitten by low wrong voter turnout, and that the ones who won the vote can't all have had the best interests of the country town in mind.
I apologize for this 20/20 hindsight in lieu of a more active opinion yesterday. I somehow thought we had another 24 hours to go when I went to bed. If I had realized the lynch was imminent I might have suggested alternative targets more actively.
Anyway, let's look at those Zack votes:
either way
vote: zack
he's not v/v with monty
his reaction to my voting him was bad as far as meta
he's a little bit... lacking
vote: Zack
I feel like poking a sleeping bear. It was either him or Pizza. Maybe I’ll unvote zack and then vote Pizza.
I don’t get the wagon on GH. (frankly I don’t think I’d get any wagon at the present time)
What I also don’t get: The writeup on Winston’s kill. I understand all of the words individually, yet when put together…. :crazy:
Showing a willingness to go after people maybe? I dunno, I haven't loved your play so far, it feels honestly kind of like Monty last game, lots of poking at players. To honour Monty's wishes I think I will Vote: Zack for now, given that we got basically no info from the night so I have to go by feel.
My policy of always OMGUSing people remains in effect, and self-preservation routines have been triggered.
vote: Zack
Autocats, roll out.
Vote:Zack
He's being odd this day phase and was not really scum hunting D1
Vote: Zack
I would say that BSmith and Scarlett Aria's votes in particular are bad. Scarlett's in its own right, and BSmith's vote is terrible coupled with his followup post where he says he'll be around and open for persuasion on other targets, followed by radio silence.
Vote: BSmith
Not much. Just that I felt like instigating a reaction and Zack and Pizza are pretty good targets to get a reaction from. Pizza probably would have returned more direct fire.
There is still not much to go on in the thread other than fine nuances and imagined slights. At this point I’d pretty much be happy with anyone being lynched (other than myself of course).
I’m around a fair bit more today than normal and am certainly open to being persuaded to vote in a different direction.
This is the followup post by BSmith I was referring to, the forum didn't let me multiquote it.
You believe I am scum and Cuth is scum and that I tried to lynch him d1.
You seem to be indicating you think Scarlett is scum, another person I have tried to get support for lynching.
I don't believe you believe that universe.
Vote: Newyn
I support a Scarlett lynch, but that seems to fail to register. Are you sure you want her lynched? Why did you make a case on Scarlett on day 1 and couple it with a vote for Cuthilius?
You believe I am scum and Cuth is scum and that I tried to lynch him d1.
You seem to be indicating you think Scarlett is scum, another person I have tried to get support for lynching.
I don't believe you believe that universe.
Vote: Newyn
There is almost no world where all 3 of you are scum together but you + Scarlett is entirely possible. I'm voting Cuth though because his case against Zack yesterday was complete BS. If he's scum, you look much better.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 13:50
I support a Scarlett lynch, but that seems to fail to register. Are you sure you want her lynched? Why did you make a case on Scarlett on day 1 and couple it with a vote for Cuthilius?
I kept being told over and over by my townies that this is normal for Scarlett. No one helped me lynch her.
I still don't trust her. Push her and find out what I do with my vote.
I'm the one who called her out on every single scummy thing she did on day one. Rather than blame me for why she's not dead yet, either follow me, or help me lynch a different scum.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 13:52
There is almost no world where all 3 of you are scum together but you + Scarlett is entirely possible. I'm voting Cuth though because his case against Zack yesterday was complete BS. If he's scum, you look much better.
Ok, let's start with Scarlett then.
I'm bussing Scarlett today. She's the wolfiest wolf, and I want to make myself look better. Then turn around and lynch me tomorrow.
Don't invert the order, because I'm a townie.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 13:52
And because people never follow up.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 13:53
You can do that or I can lynch you today, Newyn. Let's make something happen. Either get out of my way or help me lead.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 13:54
I'm not following you on Cuth, unless Cuth's name is against someone like NotACop for the lynch.
And I'll still think wolves are pushing v/v wagons in such a case. I'd probably call for a cfd, ineffective as that may be.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 13:57
Here's why not Cuth based on wagonomics:
Wolves are going to follow a townie onto a mislynch. Simple as that. The first vote is the one that gets a ton of the blame, so does the vote that tips it.
Wolves followed Cuth's bad case. Don't punish Cuth, punish the wolf.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 13:59
People want to do right by Zack, he's not going to be thrilled that we turned around and lynched a guy who helped lynch him and was a townie.
I'm always lynching Newyn before I touch Cuth. I may never touch Cuth. I'm almost to the point where if it's Cuth and me, I lynch.
We're not doing it today. Hard veto.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:01
BSmith accused both me and Zack. He's very wrong, but he poked the bear. That gives him a pass. Well, let's see where he ends up voting today. but my first instinct on that is I don't think so.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:02
I'll give you option 3.
Not Newyn and not Aria? Then I'm always lynching dp101.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:03
If there's a wolf on Zack and it's not Aria, that's your guy. This isn't the same dp101 from last game.
He smells like wet dog.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:05
Option 4: I lynch Sir Hanksalot. Especially if I don't see him voting on the other three.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:06
If you want, I can spin you a big fake BS case like I always do when I'm scum. How about I not waste anyone's time.
ISO each person and tell me what you think of them.
Me, I'm ready to flush. 2-3-4 scums there. Minimum 2. Help me lynch the right person.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:07
Put the toilet seat down when you're done.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:11
Townies I'd consider letting myself hang first before I vote them:
16. NotACop
Pending entrance to that hallowed group:
17. Cuthillius
11. Sooh
Against
6. BSmith- Lean against
I can't read these people. They have to be a strong townie today or they're endgame lynchbait. Need to separate from the wolfpack.
2. El Barto- I have to iso and think.
13. Al Sipsclar- Dunno
5. Riedquat- Dunno
7. novice- Dunno
For the lynch:
9. GeneralHankerchief
3. Dp101
14. Newyn
15. Scarlett Aria
Pick em.
Synecdoche
11-10-2016, 14:13
Tally as of post 536:
Lynch votes
1 votes: Cuthillius (Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722591#post2053722591))
1 votes: El Barto (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722593#post2053722593))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722605#post2053722605))
1 votes: Newyn (Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722608#post2053722608))
1 votes: BSmith (novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722613#post2053722613))
Voting history:
Cuthillius
El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Time Until D3 End/N3 Start (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20161111T22&p0=179&msg=Time+until+End+of+D3%2FStart+of+N3&font=cursive&csz=1)
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:13
If people want to chat with me in real time I'll be available after dinner in about 6 hours maybe.
If you're here and you need to interact with me in real time to read me because my participation so far this game has been garbage, I'm there.
Talk to me and take me seriously.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:14
Sorry about yesterday, a friend needed to talk to someone IRL and then the world turned to garbage overnight. Wasn't ready to play.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:20
Here's something else I'm going to confront people about:
Nervous about me? Afraid I'm going to repeat Futurama?
Well, you have two options. Lynch me before it loses the game when you do, or help me clear myself.
Help me lynch a scum. even if I'm bussing, it's still a dead scum. Help me do that.
PS, not scum this time.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:20
If I have no path to clearing myself and I can't get my suspects lynched, why am I here?
Remove me or help me. That's all I have for you right now.
Vote: Scarlett Aria
Open to pushing dp101.
Not going to vote GH today unless it's literally him against me.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:27
Vote: Al Sips
I really haven't felt great about him and his posts are fairly neutral.
I don't want to resolve between Aria and Al Sips in this order. If one is not an option, the other is not.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:28
Vote: Scarlett Aria
Open to pushing dp101.
Not going to vote GH today unless it's literally him against me.
Unvote: Newyn
Vote: Scarlett Aria
You just named two scums you'd be willing to lynch. If you're bussing, we'll resolve it in final 3 if they both flip scum.
Until then, I need the votes.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 14:29
I'm stepping away, vacuuming.
Announcing my absence like I do sometimes when someone is here in real time and I'm in invisible mode and they don't know that I've left.
Is a null tell, but feel free to believe it isn't.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 14:44
Pizza, you've made 21 of the past 23 posts (24 I guess now). For the love of god consolidate a bit.
Riedquat
11-10-2016, 14:56
Gosh Pizza, 7 posts in a row! :(
While I see your point about Newyn do not see anything in the case against Scarlett... do you care to point out where is her wolfy attitude in one or two posts?
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 15:28
Pizza look at WoW mafia game again, it's slowly becoming a repeat of that. Otherwise I find it odd that you guys aren't pushing for more from low posters because it seems like not much is being said from them.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 15:29
Pizza look at WoW mafia game again, it's slowly becoming a repeat of that. Otherwise I find it odd that you guys aren't pushing for more from low posters because it seems like not much is being said from them.
What happened in WoW Mafia?
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 15:38
What happened in WoW Mafia?
Short summary was I was town and he was town. I was pretty much playing the way I played here. They started pushing on me while I was pushing a scum that happened to flip SK. It's pretty obvious that we don't quite go about this the same way.
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 15:39
Short summary was I was town and he was town. I was pretty much playing the way I played here. They started pushing on me while I was pushing a scum that happened to flip SK. It's pretty obvious that we don't quite go about this the same way.
I was lynched before they got the SK and mafia won that one due to town tunneling town.
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 15:47
Gosh Pizza, 7 posts in a row! :(
While I see your point about Newyn do not see anything in the case against Scarlett... do you care to point out where is her wolfy attitude in one or two posts?
What are your top two scum reads at the moment and why?
If there's a wolf on Zack and it's not Aria, that's your guy. This isn't the same dp101 from last game.
He smells like wet dog.
You are correct, compared to last game I am definitely not playing as well. I think this is mostly due to 2 factors, although neither entirely excuse my behaviour. Firstly, I've kind of been really stressed in my home and academic life for most of this game, and as such I have found it much harder to concentrate on this game and to have the motivation to push people. Secondly, as I mentioned earlier, I tend to be a reactive player, I'm pretty bad at making a case out of nothing and mostly only respond to what is happening in the game. In the Futurama game, I was lucky in that I found something that seemed odd to me early on, which ended up making the game get serious faster, giving me a lot more to work with. In this game, not only do we have a much lower general activity level, but I also haven't managed to find that many statements that I disagree with, and in addition the NKs/flips haven't told us much, so I don't post much because there isn't much to reply to. I don't think it's a good thing that I seem to be incapable of taking the initiative and making cases out of a null town, but I can only talk about the patterns I see in my behaviour, not change those patterns.
Riedquat
11-10-2016, 17:24
What are your top two scum reads at the moment and why?
I do not have reads! I only have gut feelings... yesterday I did find odd three different players were focusing on El Barto, and perhaps they were seeing something I failed to see, considering khaan had a watcher ability and voted him yesterday I said he is a really good candidate for lynch.
Pizza is pizza so I will be always wary of him, and every one pretending to read pizza is also a good candidate, newyn saying his drop in activity is a sign of scum when less than a month ago in futuramafia we had an hyperactive scum pizza is odd at best...
Dp101 is mostly townie but I agree he is not the same townie that played in the other game. Not idea about the rest...
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 17:27
yesterday I did find odd three different players were focusing on El Barto, and perhaps they were seeing something I failed to see, considering khaan had a watcher ability and voted him yesterday I said he is a really good candidate for lynch.
This is actually a really good point, let me go back and see if khaan was hinting anything further.
I know this isn't what you meant about hyperactive scum Pizza, but now I have this mental image of pizza on a massive sugar high bouncing round a room stabbing everyone. I appreciate your stance on Pizza though, it matches how I feel about him.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 17:37
So one thing about khaan is that if he's trying to tell the town something he drops really oblique hints about either himself or his target. For example: one time he had a watcher/tracker role and worked some variant of the word "see" or "spy" etc into every post. So I'll be looking for stuff like that.
...............and he has two posts total. :laugh4:
For sake of completion:
Early D1:
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
I saw you eating that spicy meat-a-ball. In a patisserie, no less! Also, u suck.
Vote: El Barto
I'm not sensing enough proper role play from barto. Why are you not bread, sir?
Possible, possible hit on "sensing" but I think khaan would have needled a bit more if he truly had something on Barto.
Null.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 17:39
Er, there should be a "Day 2" indicator before the quote where he voted for Barto.
Vote:Zack
He's being odd this day phase and was not really scum hunting D1
I’m willing to go with vote: Scarlett Aria for this vote. It was tied between GH and Zack at this point, and nearing the deadline. Aside from the GH-Zack negotiations and eventual self-preservation votes, this is the vote that materially enabled the Zack lynch.
Sounds rich coming from someone who was also voting Zack, but that’s the way I see it. Speaking of which…
I would say that BSmith and Scarlett Aria's votes in particular are bad. Scarlett's in its own right, and BSmith's vote is terrible coupled with his followup post where he says he'll be around and open for persuasion on other targets, followed by radio silence.
Vote: BSmith
I was around for most of the day (Tuesday) but there wasn’t a lot of stuff to interact to. I was frankly expecting Zack to push back harder, but he didn’t. I decided to leave my vote in place primarily because of this, and just as Zack himself “fact is vast majority of the game is null for me” fit my perspective exactly.
At EOD my mind was far from this game as I was dumbfoundedly watching a national tragedy unfold.
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 17:51
I do not have reads! I only have gut feelings... yesterday I did find odd three different players were focusing on El Barto, and perhaps they were seeing something I failed to see, considering khaan had a watcher ability and voted him yesterday I said he is a really good candidate for lynch.
Pizza is pizza so I will be always wary of him, and every one pretending to read pizza is also a good candidate, newyn saying his drop in activity is a sign of scum when less than a month ago in futuramafia we had an hyperactive scum pizza is odd at best...
Dp101 is mostly townie but I agree he is not the same townie that played in the other game. Not idea about the rest...
Any vibe or gut with Al or NAC?
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 18:08
I find it weird how the lynches are on the fairly active while the kills were kind of quiet. I misunderstood Zack this game and his vote to GH kind of tilted me.
Scarlett Aria
11-10-2016, 18:18
Askthepizzaguy
Your case of me is started on a comment that I found Winston to be slight town but you think was forced. Now it's more like everybody I read town didn't want a Scarlett lynch but now it's happening and you vanish. I'm not sure to call this case stupid or scummy now because your letting others who are less involved in my opinion to get away pressure free.
Riedquat
11-10-2016, 18:34
Any vibe or gut with Al or NAC?
Nothing about NAC, seems crazy and townie so far. Al Sip... umm... annoyed at him yesterday with the fixation on Barto's behavior, considering my own change of hearth I don't know anymore.
Riedquat
11-10-2016, 18:44
Askthepizzaguy
Your case of me is started on a comment that I found Winston to be slight town but you think was forced. Now it's more like everybody I read town didn't want a Scarlett lynch but now it's happening and you vanish. I'm not sure to call this case stupid or scummy now because your letting others who are less involved in my opinion to get away pressure free.
Now is happening? :rolleyes:
Your pressure tolerance seems very low... but agree in the annoyance of pizza reading you scum every single time independently of your alignment, we talked about that in the other game ~:)
I was around for most of the day (Tuesday) but there wasn’t a lot of stuff to interact to. I was frankly expecting Zack to push back harder, but he didn’t. I decided to leave my vote in place primarily because of this, and just as Zack himself “fact is vast majority of the game is null for me” fit my perspective exactly.
I would say Zack pushed back hard. He saved us the melodrama but was quite pointed. But either way. You poked the bear to instigate a reaction, got a reaction leading you to keep your vote there, but never shared these thoughts with the town, or Zack. And you also found Zack's perspective to fit yours exactly. To me this feels like you were all too happy to let a Zack lynch idle across the deadline.
I generally prefer it when people give their reasons for a lynch when it's happening instead of after the fact.
On another note - BSmith, let me ask you this. Why do you think the Zack lynch was bad?
Alright. I'm here in real time. Won't have time to go back and do analysis just yet, but I'm here for real time if anyone wants to.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 19:55
I'll be on here for a bit.
@Scarlett
I don't know what you're saying in post 563.
I don’t. All things considered I’d probably do it again. But now that we know he was innocent, taking a closer look at the voting patterns makes sense. Most everything else is still just random noise to me.
that last post was in response to novice...
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 19:59
I kept being told over and over by my townies that this is normal for Scarlett. No one helped me lynch her.
I still don't trust her. Push her and find out what I do with my vote.
I'm the one who called her out on every single scummy thing she did on day one. Rather than blame me for why she's not dead yet, either follow me, or help me lynch a different scum.
Elaborate on this, you seem to be fixated on this point and I don't remember it sticking out in my mind.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:00
You are correct, compared to last game I am definitely not playing as well. I think this is mostly due to 2 factors, although neither entirely excuse my behaviour. Firstly, I've kind of been really stressed in my home and academic life for most of this game, and as such I have found it much harder to concentrate on this game and to have the motivation to push people. Secondly, as I mentioned earlier, I tend to be a reactive player, I'm pretty bad at making a case out of nothing and mostly only respond to what is happening in the game. In the Futurama game, I was lucky in that I found something that seemed odd to me early on, which ended up making the game get serious faster, giving me a lot more to work with. In this game, not only do we have a much lower general activity level, but I also haven't managed to find that many statements that I disagree with, and in addition the NKs/flips haven't told us much, so I don't post much because there isn't much to reply to. I don't think it's a good thing that I seem to be incapable of taking the initiative and making cases out of a null town, but I can only talk about the patterns I see in my behaviour, not change those patterns.
This post is wolfy.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:10
Elaborate on this, you seem to be fixated on this point and I don't remember it sticking out in my mind.
First issue was here:
Post 102 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721613&viewfull=1#post2053721613)
Followed by my response in 107 and hers in 110.
Don't agree with the read here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721624&viewfull=1#post2053721624).
There's no process behind it, so I followed up on that and she responded with nonsequiturs here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721625&viewfull=1#post2053721625).
117 didn't help matters.
AtE here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721777&viewfull=1#post2053721777).
Odd reaction to pressure here. Specifically, the vote was during the "joke vote" phase, and says is neutral lean (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721779&viewfull=1#post2053721779) but then claims it wasn't a joke vote.
Zack read Aria town and I disagreed here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721786&viewfull=1#post2053721786), stated why.
I summarized all of the above here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721798&viewfull=1#post2053721798).
So now I'm asking town Scarlett Aria if she's in there again about her process.
If you're under suspicion and you're a townie, just explain your process better.
Show me how you went from A to B on people.
Tell me why people are townies or scums, just having a read doesn't tell me what you're doing.
Then here's a really in-depth post about why that process is exactly backward. If you read nothing else, read this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721817&viewfull=1#post2053721817).
Although honestly you should read the entire interaction between me and Scarlett Aria that began in 102 and leads here.
I don’t. All things considered I’d probably do it again. But now that we know he was innocent, taking a closer look at the voting patterns makes sense. Most everything else is still just random noise to me.
Then why was it significant that Zack was tied with GH when Scarlett voted?
I’m willing to go with vote: Scarlett Aria for this vote. It was tied between GH and Zack at this point, and nearing the deadline. Aside from the GH-Zack negotiations and eventual self-preservation votes, this is the vote that materially enabled the Zack lynch.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:16
The very, very short version is this:
I'm expecting a no reason / joke thing to be null, and I'm expecting reasons to find his behavior or his vote peculiar to not be paired with an unvote.
It seems backward. Do you get what I mean?
If you have no reason for your vote for someone and it's a joke, it shouldn't be paired with reasons. That's odd.
But worse, stating those reasons and then hard unvoting when pressure picks up on Scarlett. That's flinchy, not villagery.
You don't vote someone for no reasons, then unvote them and give reasons for your vote. It's backward.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:17
I'm not going to just sit here and harp on Scarlett though.
I would like people to push Dp101 with votes.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:22
I do not have reads! I only have gut feelings... yesterday I did find odd three different players were focusing on El Barto, and perhaps they were seeing something I failed to see, considering khaan had a watcher ability and voted him yesterday I said he is a really good candidate for lynch.
Pizza is pizza so I will be always wary of him, and every one pretending to read pizza is also a good candidate, newyn saying his drop in activity is a sign of scum when less than a month ago in futuramafia we had an hyperactive scum pizza is odd at best...
Dp101 is mostly townie but I agree he is not the same townie that played in the other game. Not idea about the rest...
Riedquat is not giving off townie vibes here. It's a blend of consensus and neutrality.
Ried, if I'm wrong you need to get in the game more. Give me more solid reads on the people I'm suspecting with reasons.
Back them up with reasons why I'm wrong if you think so. Put some more skin into things.
Then why was it significant that Zack was tied with GH when Scarlett voted?
Because Scarlet tipped the scales towards Zack, who we know now is innocent. The big implication here is that she is "saving" GH. I'm not outright calling GH scum here, but it is an angle that should at least be unpacked.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:26
Because Scarlet tipped the scales towards Zack, who we know now is innocent. The big implication here is that she is "saving" GH. I'm not outright calling GH scum here, but it is an angle that should at least be unpacked.
I think this is likely.
I am certainly willing to unpack it.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:31
A GH/Scarlet team?
It's possible. It's also possible the vote moved and it's unrelated to GH's alignment. But they're each on my radar on an individual basis.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:32
I am willing to consider teams but there's a danger in that. We have not seen the flips yet, and it's very manipulable beforehand.
But I'll go on record and say this is very plausible from where I sit.
The way I see it Cuth made a bad case on Zack and his wagon caught enough steam that scum took the opportunity to lynch a player who could later prove unlynchable. GH could be scum but it's coincidental. The reasons given for voting Zack are more interesting.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:49
Novice, is your vote staying where it is, or will it migrate soon?
I came in today thinking I'd be pushing Pizza because I didn't think he cared enough about the game, but I'm doing a 180 now lol. This is good stuff.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:51
I came in today thinking I'd be pushing Pizza because I didn't think he cared enough about the game, but I'm doing a 180 now lol. This is good stuff.
I don't, really. I'm putting in the effort but I want to walk away from this after I've done my job.
I'll be in a better mood in the coming days about playing any game.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 20:53
Sooh, you were one of the earliest people to look at Scarlett. Are you still in?
Novice, is your vote staying where it is, or will it migrate soon?
I'm not too happy about how she so quickly became the consensus candidate. I will consolidate on her if nothing changes, but not yet.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:03
GH, what are you doing right now.
I know for a fact you don't really respond to pressure. But where are you this game?
Walk me through what you're doing to solve for town. I'm not seeing it.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:06
I'm not too happy about how she so quickly became the consensus candidate. I will consolidate on her if nothing changes, but not yet.
Where are you on GH? your posts seem to indicate you're willing to go there.
Are you hesitant because BSmith is also pushing that line? Ignore that if so, what's the individual read.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 21:07
Getting the lay of the land.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:14
Getting the lay of the land.
The land was manufactured by IKEA. So, if that's your contribution today, the cfd will be on you, chaos chaos chaos.
Where are you on GH? your posts seem to indicate you're willing to go there.
Are you hesitant because BSmith is also pushing that line? Ignore that if so, what's the individual read.
He's flown under my radar a bit but hasn't struck me as scummy nor towny. Let me do an ISO now that I'm at my computer.
Ignoring BSmith, a Scarlett/GH pairing makes sense.
Unofficial tally as of post 594:
Lynch votes
3 votes: Scarlett Aria (Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722643#post2053722643), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722646#post2053722646), BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680))
1 votes: El Barto (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722593#post2053722593))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722605#post2053722605))
1 votes: BSmith (novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722613#post2053722613))
Voting history:
Cuthillius
El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 21:17
The land was manufactured by IKEA. So, if that's your contribution today, the cfd will be on you, chaos chaos chaos.
What is this statement supposed to accomplish?
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:19
What is this statement supposed to accomplish?
If you want me to vote you again today, keep doing what you're doing. It looks exactly like your scummy d1 of Ikea mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:31
What was IKEA mafia?
GH scum on day one, got a wagon on him, defended his lack of scum hunting as it's day one, scum hunting doesn't work.
It is day 3 in this game and he's not doing anything.
There's still a day left in the day, so I'm looking forward to him demonstrating that I'm not good at catching him out of the blue repeatedly and then letting him go for no real reason.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:32
It was in March-April of this year, should still be on the first page, depending on threads displayed per page.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 21:34
GH scum on day one, got a wagon on him, defended his lack of scum hunting as it's day one, scum hunting doesn't work.
It is day 3 in this game and he's not doing anything.
There's still a day left in the day, so I'm looking forward to him demonstrating that I'm not good at catching him out of the blue repeatedly and then letting him go for no real reason.
Vote: Pizza
Well that didn't take long. Not much of substance from GH so far.
Okay this is stupid, let's start to consolidate.
Vote: Montmorency
FWIW this is effectively the start of the Monty wagon. Dp and I were voting him already, but a bunch of other guys also had two votes.
Zack - fine
Al Sips - discussed
Cuth - feel more confident reading him later on
That leaves Monty.
This is his reasoning. Was there noone with 1 vote on them worth considering?.
The only attempt at case building I could find:
This is actually a really good point, let me go back and see if khaan was hinting anything further.
Pizza is right, he's not doing anything.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:37
Vote: Generalhankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 21:37
To elaborate:
Selective memory going on here, Pizza knows as well as anyone that the overall tone of .Org games has changed since then, and he's also aware that my playstyle has evolved since my three games offsite over the summer.
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:38
let's make sure it counts.
Unvote: Scarlett Aria
Vote: Generalhankerchief
I'll be willing to push SA or DP as alternatives, but in the meantime, quite happy with this vote.
Check in again tomorrow.
To elaborate:
Selective memory going on here, Pizza knows as well as anyone that the overall tone of .Org games has changed since then, and he's also aware that my playstyle has evolved since my three games offsite over the summer.
What is your playstyle then?
Sooh, you were one of the earliest people to look at Scarlett. Are you still in?
I need to re-examine, definitely. That goes for most people though. Everyone needs a second look imo.
Vote: Generalhankerchief with severe trepidations, last time Pizza used past games as evidence we lost.
GH, can you give me the names of your most probable townies and most probable scums? I want to see where your head is at. Even if you're still getting the lay of the land you've been able to vote earlier this game, so you should have an idea.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 21:46
What is your playstyle then?
At this stage in my mafia career?
Whatever I damn well want it to be. Get off my lawn!
Askthepizzaguy
11-10-2016, 21:48
It's a lot to assume I know what your playstyle is now if you've decided to change it.
You could start with saying why you think this is better for town.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 21:53
GH, can you give me the names of your most probable townies and most probable scums? I want to see where your head is at. Even if you're still getting the lay of the land you've been able to vote earlier this game, so you should have an idea.
Just saw this post, give me a bit.
GeneralHankerchief
11-10-2016, 22:01
GH, can you give me the names of your most probable townies and most probable scums? I want to see where your head is at. Even if you're still getting the lay of the land you've been able to vote earlier this game, so you should have an idea.
Towns:
NotACop - nobody has his D1 when scum
novice - seems natural
Cuthilius - I tried to compare his posts here with his Futurama posts - didn't get very far but didn't see much variance
Scums:
El Barto - odd D1, very very extremely light chance of khaan actually hitting him - also, quiet today thusfar
DP101 - just not quite as flow-y as he was last game
Pizza - see conversation
El Barto
11-10-2016, 22:17
I need to reevaluate my previous assessments about Barto then...:/
Khaan accused and voted him because not acting vanilla... vote: El Barto?
Yeah, no, it doesn't work that way.
2. El Barto- I have to iso and think.
I'll be intermittently available to answer all your puny queries.
For the lynch:
9. GeneralHankerchief
3. Dp101
14. Newyn
15. Scarlett Aria
Pick em.
See below.
What is your playstyle then?At this stage in my mafia career?
Whatever I damn well want it to be. Get off my lawn!
Non-contributive answer.
vote: GeneralHankerchief
Riedquat
11-10-2016, 22:19
El Barto - odd D1, very very extremely light chance of khaan actually hitting him - also, quiet today thusfar
DP101 - just not quite as flow-y as he was last game
Pizza - see conversation
:inquisitive: What is the oddity from day 1? And what about day two? You noticed something on him yesterday, what was that?
El Barto
11-10-2016, 22:25
He's trying to get someone to vote for me so that he can join on the waggon. He could be trying to save Scarlett Aria for all that we know.
Towns:
NotACop - nobody has his D1 when scum
novice - seems natural
Cuthilius - I tried to compare his posts here with his Futurama posts - didn't get very far but didn't see much variance
Scums:
El Barto - odd D1, very very extremely light chance of khaan actually hitting him - also, quiet today thusfar
DP101 - just not quite as flow-y as he was last game
Pizza - see conversation
Can you describe more DP's flow last game compared to now? I don't know what that was like, so please show me.
Also, what in particular is it about the conversation with Pizza that makes you think he's scum? The fact that he's comparing this game to an old game? I hate to tell you, but Pot, meet Kettle.
Is there more to it?
Just checking in to recommend watching Hacksaw Ridge. Great movie!
I'll get around to catch up and lead us to victory sometime tomorrow
El Barto
11-10-2016, 23:13
Non-contributive answer.
vote: GeneralHankerchief
Just checking in to recommend watching Hacksaw Ridge. Great movie!
I'll get around to catch up and lead us to victory sometime tomorrow
:stare:
El Barto
11-10-2016, 23:32
FFos: NotaCop
Cuthillius
11-10-2016, 23:42
I think Pizza's town
I don't think DP is w/w with gh
vote: generalhankerchief
I also don't think gh would be together with takh
Riedquat
11-11-2016, 00:29
He's trying to get someone to vote for me so that he can join on the waggon. He could be trying to save Scarlett Aria for all that we know.
Someone else apart of me do you mean? And trying to save Scarlett sacrificing himself? Also he don't seem to be trying anything really, he just could give a more categorical opinion from khaan's interaction with you... still something is off but can't point my finger to it...
Also, what in particular is it about the conversation with Pizza that makes you think he's scum?
Was meant to ask the same in the previous post but had someone at the door...
BTW... I keep confusing your posts with Atpg's ones... must be the darkish avatar...
About Dp, previous game was his first game and you could say from a mile away he was 100% townie around second day, he was transparent in every aspect, in this game retrospectively he seems a bit less transparent or a bit more cynic I don't know, perhaps he is trying to play differently to get a different approach or result than the other game, or he is not vanilla or he is scum.
Slight correction, it was my second game. I'm being less transparent probably because my transparency caused me to be too trusting and also seems to be one of the factors in my lynch in the hydra game I played.
Riedquat
11-11-2016, 00:50
Dang!!!! The forum is infuriating me with freaking token expiring!!!!
Slight correction, it was my second game. I'm being less transparent probably because my transparency caused me to be too trusting and also seems to be one of the factors in my lynch in the hydra game I played.
Was saying before the forum ate my post, this is not the path you want to follow, just keep being transparent and if you are scum the more the merrier!
Al Sipsclar
11-11-2016, 02:03
I like GH's wagon, but don't want it to become a runaway one.
Incidentally, yesterday Cuth had exactly 3 posts, dead set on lynching Zack.
he always gets lynched for ~no reason
the easiest lhfiest day 1 lynch
either way
vote: zack
he's not v/v with monty
his reaction to my voting him was bad as far as meta
he's a little bit... lacking
I am still of the opinion that Zack's response to being voted is scummy.
He's trying to hushy hushy it up, and sort of push it out of the way, such as the post wrt ignoring me and the interaction with dp
ime zack, like visor, doesn't respond in that way as town as much
when town he's not afraid to just say hey that's idiotic go commit suicide
when scum he tends to do this less often
and right now he's trying to stay out of the center of attention
meh
boils down to
zack>meta>scum
Today is one:
I think Pizza's town
I don't think DP is w/w with gh
vote: generalhankerchief
I also don't think gh would be together with takh
Vote: Cuthillius What's up with that unwavering certainty?
Al Sipsclar
11-11-2016, 02:13
Vote: Al Sips
I really haven't felt great about him and his posts are fairly neutral.
If you (or anyone) ever see a non-neutral post from me, please let me know. I'd like to understand the difference. :robot:
Back to Vote: Cuth.
Like I said, I don't intend on joining any GH wagon.
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 07:15
Back to Vote: Cuth.
Like I said, I don't intend on joining any GH wagon.
What is it about GH that makes you think he's town? Can you show your process?
Also, are you still open to pushing Aria or dp today?
Unofficial tally as of post 629:
Lynch votes
4 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722753#post2053722753), Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722756#post2053722756), El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722764#post2053722764), Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780))
2 votes: Cuthillius (Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722796#post2053722796), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722809#post2053722809))
1 votes: El Barto (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722593#post2053722593))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722605#post2053722605))
1 votes: BSmith (novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722613#post2053722613))
1 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680))
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play/page8showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748))
Voting history:
Cuthillius
El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
Cuthillius
Cuthillius
I have little time for this game today, sadly.
To reiterate my case on BSmith since nobody's even commented:
He voted Zack early in the day to "poke the bear". He said he would be around. He then did nothing.
After the lynch he says he left his vote on Zack because he felt Zack didn't push back hard enough.
This feels like BSmith "stealth lynching" Zack, i.e. silently leaving an unjustified vote on Zack and letting him hang, taking advantage of an opportunity to lynch a townie who could later prove hard to lynch.
I don't like how people ignore BSmith but are happy to jump on Scarlett and GH. The case on BSmith is more concrete, if you disagree with it at least say so.
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 16:07
Would be expecting scum GH to at least push back harder here.
Or for someone to be pushing a counter wagon.
Let's see about Aria. I feel like that's a slam dunk. And she hasn't been using the time in the interim, either.
Unvote: Generalhankerchief
Vote: Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 16:08
Cuth could be doing more, but I don't like him as the alternative to either GH or Aria.
I feel like those two are better choices.
Doing a reread with fresh eyes on the game while catching up on the later part as well
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 16:58
First issue was here:
Post 102 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721613&viewfull=1#post2053721613)
Followed by my response in 107 and hers in 110.
Don't agree with the read here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721624&viewfull=1#post2053721624).
There's no process behind it, so I followed up on that and she responded with nonsequiturs here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721625&viewfull=1#post2053721625).
117 didn't help matters.
AtE here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721777&viewfull=1#post2053721777).
Odd reaction to pressure here. Specifically, the vote was during the "joke vote" phase, and says is neutral lean (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721779&viewfull=1#post2053721779) but then claims it wasn't a joke vote.
Zack read Aria town and I disagreed here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721786&viewfull=1#post2053721786), stated why.
I summarized all of the above here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721798&viewfull=1#post2053721798).
So now I'm asking town Scarlett Aria if she's in there again about her process.
Then here's a really in-depth post about why that process is exactly backward. If you read nothing else, read this post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222-Tokens-of-My-Confection-In-Play&p=2053721817&viewfull=1#post2053721817).
Although honestly you should read the entire interaction between me and Scarlett Aria that began in 102 and leads here.
That NO post is basically part of my personality given I joked last game and got lynched day one for ?!?! reasons.
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 17:01
Because Scarlet tipped the scales towards Zack, who we know now is innocent. The big implication here is that she is "saving" GH. I'm not outright calling GH scum here, but it is an angle that should at least be unpacked.
So tipping scales when a tie is placed on a wagon that made no sense to me scummy?
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 17:12
At this stage in my mafia career?
Whatever I damn well want it to be. Get off my lawn!
Has visor possessed this game...
Where I'm at after rereading:
Town:
NotACop
Towny:
El Barto
Dp101
novice
Town lean:
Cuthilius
Askthepizzaguy
Sooh
Null:
Al Sipsclar
BSmith
Riedquat
Scarlett Aria
Newyn
Scum lean:
GeneralHankerchief
So I'll
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
Al Sipsclar
11-11-2016, 18:24
Where I'm at after rereading:
Town:
NotACop
Towny:
El Barto
Dp101
novice
Town lean:
Cuthilius
Askthepizzaguy
Sooh
Null:
Al Sipsclar
BSmith
Riedquat
Scarlett Aria
Newyn
Scum lean:
GeneralHankerchief
So I'll
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
Good choice, but that's a conveniently too short list of scum leans. Could you please name a couple more of your partners?
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 19:01
NAC is townie to me, but I have to admit, that's an impressive bit of sass from Al Sips.
Where was this Al Sips last game? More of this please.
Pizza what happened to your hard veto on Cuth?
Al, why is NAC scum?
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 20:24
Pizza what happened to your hard veto on Cuth?
Al, why is NAC scum?
?
Hard veto didn't go anywhere.
I'm noting that Cuth could be saying more, that's not a scum read or change in my previous stance, to be clear.
My vote will jump to GH if it's going to come down to Cuth-GH, but I'm still pushing my original suspect. I'd prefer GH-Aria wagons to any Cuth wagon.
Riedquat
11-11-2016, 21:00
Ok Barto i will unvote you, but promise not to kill me tonight! Ok?
Unvote
Vote: Scarlet Aria?
El Barto
11-11-2016, 21:55
Slight correction, it was my second game. I'm being less transparent probably because my transparency caused me to be too trusting and also seems to be one of the factors in my lynch in the hydra game I played.
The usual way to do this is to blame your hydra partner.
Ok Barto i will unvote you, but promise not to kill me tonight! Ok?
Unvote
Vote: Scarlet Aria?
I cannot kill you. I don't have anything to do it with.
What is it about GH that makes you think he's town? Can you show your process?
Also, are you still open to pushing Aria or dp today?
It comes down to me thinking yesterday was v/v.
Everyone voting for him today outside you when you asked this were on Zack's wagon yesterday too.
Vote: Scarlett Aria for now but I'm actually leaning more towards DP so would be more than willing to switch there instead.
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 22:31
It comes down to me thinking yesterday was v/v.
Everyone voting for him today outside you when you asked this were on Zack's wagon yesterday too.
Vote: Scarlett Aria for now but I'm actually leaning more towards DP so would be more than willing to switch there instead.
I'll keep monitoring the thread, but there's a lot of dead, stagnant air right now, and a lot of people aren't here, ostensibly.
If there's a significant movement onto dp, I may be able to lend my vote. In return, I'm asking people to take a long, cold, hard look at Scarlett Aria.
This is the round you make a decision on her if you're not convinced. It's been 3 rounds and most people are still not pressuring her or even talking about her, and the silence is deafening. Tomorrow, all bets are off. I do not make a habit of suspecting the same person all game.
Yeah, the game has lost all momentum.
Vote: Scarlett Aria.
Newyn, what's your take on BSmith? Isn't he scummier than Scarlett with GH as town?
I'm not vetoing a Dp lynch, as I think we should at least lynch a Zack voter.
I would be fine with aria, but not entirely sure they are better than GH. Does anyone want a reads list from me?
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 23:01
I would be fine with aria, but not entirely sure they are better than GH. Does anyone want a reads list from me?
Shouldn't have to ask.
As an aside, are you okay? Because it's going to completely screw my reads if you're shaken about IRL stuff.
I am not sure if I am ok. There's the election, a whole pile of academic stress, and my mother has been very sick this past month, shingles in her eye. I joined this game to try and escape from all that, but I think it's impacting my performance. I dunno, it's just hard to focus on the game like this, I will try harder though.
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:24
WOAH HOLD UP! You guys aren't alarm by the lack of a counter wagon and just mindless hoping on to vote me?
Synecdoche
11-11-2016, 23:28
Tally as of post 653:
Lynch votes
4 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722850#post2053722850), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722893#post2053722893), novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722903#post2053722903))
4 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722756#post2053722756), El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722764#post2053722764), Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780), NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722862#post2053722862))
1 votes: Cuthillius (Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722796#post2053722796))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722605#post2053722605))
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748))
1 votes: Scarlet Aria (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722885#post2053722885))
Voting history:
Cuthillius
El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
Cuthillius
Cuthillius
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
Unvote
Scarlet Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Time Until D3 End/N3 Start (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20161111T22&p0=179&msg=Time+until+End+of+D3%2FStart+of+N3&font=cursive&csz=1)
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:30
WOAH HOLD UP! You guys aren't alarm by the lack of a counter wagon and just mindless hoping on to vote me?
was wrong on the counter wagon point but it seemed like a whole bunch of y'all just joined.
Riedquat
11-11-2016, 23:30
WOAH HOLD UP! You guys aren't alarm by the lack of a counter wagon and just mindless hoping on to vote me?
Exactly! Now we want to see the cournterwagon to know your partners... :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 23:39
The timing of these responses to vote pressure continue to be really scummy. It seems like you're content to do nothing if you're not a major wagon, and then flinch when you are one.
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:40
I'm just kind of thinking it's more likely to be within the less active players more than the higher active players. NAC and Pizza i'm a bit more wary of now.
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:43
The timing of these responses to vote pressure continue to be really scummy. It seems like you're content to do nothing if you're not a major wagon, and then flinch when you are one.
Pizza, you reacting totally different than the previous game we played together. That is what is making me reconsider you now. I'm not avoiding this but i find it simply harder when half the players aren't really saying much in my opinion.
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 23:44
Wary?
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 23:44
Pizza, you reacting totally different than the previous game we played together. That is what is making me reconsider you now. I'm not avoiding this but i find it simply harder when half the players aren't really saying much in my opinion.
How is it scummy-different. Say what you're seeing. Wary and different are substitutes for reasoned suspicion.
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:46
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?151176-Rise-of-The-Snake-Cult-Concluded
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?151262-Mafia-v-Cult-Concluded
My last two games here and why I did not want it to be a rematch of the Mafia v Cult one. I will answer questions and i'm staying here till EoD.
Yeah, the game has lost all momentum.
Vote: Scarlett Aria.
Newyn, what's your take on BSmith? Isn't he scummier than Scarlett with GH as town?
I'm not vetoing a Dp lynch, as I think we should at least lynch a Zack voter.
Honestly, I havn't been paying as much attention to this game as I should so I literally have no read on BSmith at the moment.
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 23:48
Like, dp is way different from his previous game. But that's not necessarily suspicious. His votes are.
I'm wary of you, because of how you're behaving. There's something behind it.
Get what I mean?
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 23:50
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?151176-Rise-of-The-Snake-Cult-Concluded
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?151262-Mafia-v-Cult-Concluded
My last two games here and why I did not want it to be a rematch of the Mafia v Cult one. I will answer questions and i'm staying here till EoD.
In the interests of time, let's say I agree to whatever characterization you want to make of those two previous games.
How do you think they're relevant, and what was characteristic of your town game there that matches here?
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:51
Like, dp is way different from his previous game. But that's not necessarily suspicious. His votes are.
I'm wary of you, because of how you're behaving. There's something behind it.
Get what I mean?
There is nothing behind it though, do you remember how you acted in our first game together? If not than here is the reminder.
http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/96393-basicstandard-warcraft-war-of-the-ancients-mafia-game-over-mafia-wins/
You should know from our talks that I am just naturally scummy there is NOTHING to hide this game and that makes me want to relook over you.
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:53
In the interests of time, let's say I agree to whatever characterization you want to make of those two previous games.
How do you think they're relevant, and what was characteristic of your town game there that matches here?
I'm a scummy player that can't make up her mind and sometimes waits to late to consider who she thinks is scum. That doesn't mean scum at all.
Al Sipsclar
11-11-2016, 23:55
Hmm, I think I'm ok with either choice.
Al, why is NAC scum?
I don't know if he's scum. I think, a runaway wagon indicates bussing.
Ok Barto i will unvote you, but promise not to kill me tonight! Ok?
Unvote
Vote: Scarlet Aria?
Question marks (esp. at the end of votes) are scummy.
El Barto
11-11-2016, 23:58
WOAH HOLD UP! You guys aren't alarm by the lack of a counter wagon and just mindless hoping on to vote me?
You're the counterwaggon.
Tally as of post 653:
Lynch votes
4 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722850#post2053722850), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722893#post2053722893), novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722903#post2053722903))
4 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722756#post2053722756), El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722764#post2053722764), Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780), NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722862#post2053722862))
1 votes: Cuthillius (Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722796#post2053722796))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722605#post2053722605))
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748))
1 votes: Scarlet Aria (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722885#post2053722885))
Actually, Scarlet(t) is in the lead 5-4 as of that post.
I'm a scummy player that can't make up her mind and sometimes waits to late to consider who she thinks is scum. That doesn't mean scum at all.
Sto stealing my schtick.
El Barto
11-11-2016, 23:58
Question marks (esp. at the end of votes) are scummy.
They are?
Scarlett Aria
11-11-2016, 23:59
I also really don't know what to make of GH because he seems to be scum hunting but I can't really remember his post much.
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2016, 23:59
Are you going to self-preserve?
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:00
You're the counterwaggon.
Actually, Scarlet(t) is in the lead 5-4 as of that post.
Sto stealing my schtick.
How is that schtick stealing, it was mine to begin with! What do you think of GH?
Al Sipsclar
11-12-2016, 00:00
They are?
Yes, you scum.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:00
I also really don't know what to make of GH because he seems to be scum hunting but I can't really remember his post much.
Where is he scum hunting?
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:01
Are you going to self-preserve?
I'm not much of a self pres person especially if I have no idea about the other wagon.
El Barto
11-12-2016, 00:01
Are you going to self-preserve?
Sugar is required.
How is that schtick stealing, it was mine to begin with! What do you think of GH?
I've been here longer, woman! And I am voting GH, you know.
Yes, you scum.
Why?
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:01
Where is he scum hunting?
Hold up I will get the posts
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:05
By the way, @ town
I may or may not be your bulletproof serial killer. Just wanted to let you know where I stand and who I'm going to be ruthlessly killing tonight before I go.
I regret that I have but one vest to give for my country. But yeah, I'm gonna make sure scums die today and tonight.
Otherwise I could just stay hidden. Ish.
Thanks for giving me the Scarlett and GH wagons. Now I know I can get both.
Al Sipsclar
11-12-2016, 00:05
Why?
Because you're afraid to make a mistake and asking the town majority to validate your statement.
Al Sipsclar
11-12-2016, 00:07
Vote: Pizza. Enough with this nonsense.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:07
Btw if you haven't gotten it through your head. I'm town and we need to lynch scum.
Ok, reads list. Let me know if I forgot anyone. Town are Novice, cuth, Sooh, al, BSmith in order of certainty. Null are Barto, Pizza, newyn, NAC in no particular order. Scum are GH, Quat, Aria, in no particular order. Now that I have actually thought for a bit, Vote: Aria
That was a massive xpost, let me re-evaluate.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:10
Ok, reads list. Let me know if I forgot anyone. Town are Novice, cuth, Sooh, al, BSmith in order of certainty. Null are Barto, Pizza, newyn, NAC in no particular order. Scum are GH, Quat, Aria, in no particular order. Now that I have actually thought for a bit, Vote: Aria
DP why do you think i'm scum? (Decided to reread the thread)
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:12
Vote: Pizza. Enough with this nonsense.
You want to lynch me, it makes little difference to me, but you *may* want to lynch a mafia instead.
It's strategically correct.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:15
Pizza, that claim seals my suspicion of him now.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:17
Aria basically refusing to vote GH seals it for me. Dunno about you guys.
Scum partners flapping in the breezy breeze at this point. Otherwise she'd be fine with the self-pres.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:18
There were five votes on Aria. You can make it happen, guys.
DP why do you think i'm scum? (Decided to reread the thread)
You don't seem to have tried that hard to hunt and your responses to criticism have been extremely puzzling.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:20
Ask her why she doesn't want to lynch GH.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:21
Aria basically refusing to vote GH seals it for me. Dunno about you guys.
Scum partners flapping in the breezy breeze at this point. Otherwise she'd be fine with the self-pres.
I would be more likely to self pres as scum given I have to take myself and my team over the need to lynch town. It's my own crazy play.
Riedquat
11-12-2016, 00:22
Because you're afraid to make a mistake and asking the town majority to validate your statement.
Really? Lol... well that wasn't my expectation at all, scummy me! Was more like Pizza wanted pressure on Scarlet but GH was still on the lead so I helped a bit there, but I would be more comfortable with my vote on GH... thought it was self explanatory...:laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:22
Look at my posts today, guys.
Look how careful I've been, trying to find two correct wagons. Look at how I've treated my suspects.
Look for any fear in my posts at all.
I have been doing an extremely townie game all game, and I'm going to deliver you dead scums.
Make it happen. I'm not going anywhere. Ohwait, yes I am. Help me lynch scums.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:23
You don't seem to have tried that hard to hunt and your responses to criticism have been extremely puzzling.
Just skim over the games I linked because this is just my personality and how I play. I'm more quiet and less feisty as mafia which you did see me play in the hydra game.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:25
I have no reason to lie about any of my town reads. Those people are rock solid. You should not lynch them.
I want this, badly. Please let me be your dark knight. I'm definitely going to die.
El Barto
11-12-2016, 00:25
I may or may not be your bulletproof serial killer. Just wanted to let you know where I stand and who I'm going to be ruthlessly killing tonight before I go.
This is so that your practice Snorwegian: vada fan?
Because you're afraid to make a mistake and asking the town majority to validate your statement.
Rrright?
Btw if you haven't gotten it through your head. I'm town and we need to lynch scum.
Yeah, vote General Hankerchief!
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:26
Look at my posts today, guys.
Look how careful I've been, trying to find two correct wagons. Look at how I've treated my suspects.
Look for any fear in my posts at all.
I have been doing an extremely townie game all game, and I'm going to deliver you dead scums.
Make it happen. I'm not going anywhere. Ohwait, yes I am. Help me lynch scums.
That is something mafia is going to do regardless to risk not being outed. Me i'm playing with everything I have on the table even if it looks like i'm hiding things.
Synecdoche
11-12-2016, 00:31
Tally as of post 680:
Lynch votes
4 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722850#post2053722850), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722893#post2053722893), novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722903#post2053722903))
4 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722756#post2053722756), El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722764#post2053722764), Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780), NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722862#post2053722862))
1 votes: Cuthillius (Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722796#post2053722796))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722605#post2053722605))
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748))
1 votes: Scarlet Aria (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722885#post2053722885))
Voting history:
Cuthillius
El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
Cuthillius
Cuthillius
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
Unvote
Scarlet Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Time Until D3 End/N3 Start (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20161111T22&p0=179&msg=Time+until+End+of+D3%2FStart+of+N3&font=cursive&csz=1)
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:31
You sincerely believe that what I'm saying now unprompted is a mafia fakeclaim?
Ok.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:32
Vote: Askthepizzaguy
Synecdoche
11-12-2016, 00:33
Ok Barto i will unvote you, but promise not to kill me tonight! Ok?
Unvote
Vote: Scarlet Aria?
This vote did not count because you spelled Scarlet correctly. Give me some to fix the alias stuff.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:33
I'm just saying, if it were me in your shoes, that wouldn't be the first explanation I could come up with. Or even the second most likely, which is also possible when I'm the one who claimed it.
El Barto
11-12-2016, 00:33
Tally as of post 680:
Lynch votes
4 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722850#post2053722850), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722893#post2053722893), novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722903#post2053722903))
4 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722756#post2053722756), El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722764#post2053722764), Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780), NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722862#post2053722862))
1 votes: Cuthillius (Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722796#post2053722796))
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722605#post2053722605))
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748))
1 votes: Scarlet Aria (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722885#post2053722885)) Synecdoche Scarlett's on five votes!
edit: xpost!
Synecdoche
11-12-2016, 00:34
Tally as of post 704:
Lynch votes
5 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722850#post2053722850), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722893#post2053722893), novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722903#post2053722903), Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722949#post2053722949))
3 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748), Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722946#post2053722946), Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722971#post2053722971))
3 votes: GeneralHankerchief (El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722764#post2053722764), Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780), NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722862#post2053722862))
1 votes: Scarlet Aria (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722885#post2053722885))
Voting history:
Cuthillius
El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
Cuthillius
Cuthillius
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
Unvote
Scarlet Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
Time Until D3 End/N3 Start (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20161111T22&p0=179&msg=Time+until+End+of+D3%2FStart+of+N3&font=cursive&csz=1)
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:34
I hope people are using this time to really take a good, hard look at Aria and GH here.
I hate wasting my time as town, so you can bet that if I make my case here to you as openly as possible that this is where you need to go next, you give me 30 minutes of your time and check out what I am looking at.
Give me that much. look at them.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:36
I am holding a gigantic 50 foot sign in neon letters that says look at Aria and GH.
I am giving you my time and energy for a cause that doesn't end in victory for me.
Do me that much of a favor.
El Barto
11-12-2016, 00:36
Give me that much. look at them.
I will.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:37
I think I've done you guys a solid so far. Look at the post counts of the dead people and tell me how easy they'd be to read this game.
Riedquat
11-12-2016, 00:37
Ask her why she doesn't want to lynch GH.
I ask you, why she doesn't want to lynch GH? It is plain stupid do not bus your partner at this stage, if you are scum you are the first claiming his head and then just light a candle for his soul in private, or laugh your ass off depending your play-style...
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:37
I hope people are using this time to really take a good, hard look at Aria and GH here.
I hate wasting my time as town, so you can bet that if I make my case here to you as openly as possible that this is where you need to go next, you give me 30 minutes of your time and check out what I am looking at.
Give me that much. look at them.
I'm saying your wrong though right here and now about me. I don't care if people find me not voting my counter scummy. It's the fact that I don't know what to think of him much.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:38
There is no person has 1-2 posts per round endgame problem for you now, like last game.
A significant improvement over your previous position.
Now you have people alive with posts you can read for clues. Like if you were scum hunting.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:40
I ask you, why she doesn't want to lynch GH? It is plain stupid do not bus your partner at this stage, if you are scum you are the first claiming his head and then just light a candle for his soul in private, or laugh your ass off depending your play-style...
Thing is, the bus doesn't save her, it was forced.
But still, a townie shouldn't be so hesitant here. Especially after I've asked everyone, PARTICULARLY MY SUSPECTS, to look at the other suspects in the group of 4 I named.
I've been very patient, very careful, and asked people to explain their process.
I have not simply gone off half cocked looking for glory points. I wanted to be able to correct my read if I was wrong.
She hasn't begun to look at GH and now she's using my claim as an excuse not to.
Synecdoche
11-12-2016, 00:41
@Synecdoche (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=100065) Scarlett's on five votes!
edit: xpost!
https://i.imgur.com/ekBYn3K.gif
Please do not edit posts.
@El Barto (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=93318) has been modkilled for breaking the rules a second time. Please refrain from posting.
Please do not discuss this decision.
PM me if you have any questions.
El Barto was:
Vanilla Town.
[flavor voided]
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:42
I'm pulling a capo 3 here. I was neutral that game and I wrecked scum lives like no one's business. I think I've got 2.
If I'm correct, and look, honestly look. See if you agree.
If I'm correct, I slaughter wolves and get all the postgame glory. Well, half of it anyway.
You guys decide if I found the wolves. If not, I'm right here as the counter wagon. You don't even have to wonder what to do here.
I've made it as simple as possible. Either they're town and I should die, or I'm right, and I will ensure THEY die.
Synecdoche
11-12-2016, 00:43
Tally as of post 714:
Lynch votes
5 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722850#post2053722850), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722893#post2053722893), novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722903#post2053722903), Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722949#post2053722949))
3 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748), Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722946#post2053722946), Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722971#post2053722971))
2 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780), NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722862#post2053722862))
1 votes: Scarlet Aria (Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722885#post2053722885))
Voting history:
Cuthillius
El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
Cuthillius
Cuthillius
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
Unvote
Scarlet Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
Time Until D3 End/N3 Start (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/retirement?iso=20161111T22&p0=179&msg=Time+until+End+of+D3%2FStart+of+N3&font=cursive&csz=1)
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:43
The scum team is going to be large. You need me, guys.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:44
Thing is, the bus doesn't save her, it was forced.
But still, a townie shouldn't be so hesitant here. Especially after I've asked everyone, PARTICULARLY MY SUSPECTS, to look at the other suspects in the group of 4 I named.
I've been very patient, very careful, and asked people to explain their process.
I have not simply gone off half cocked looking for glory points. I wanted to be able to correct my read if I was wrong.
She hasn't begun to look at GH and now she's using my claim as an excuse not to.
I decided to reread the game and now with El Barto Modkilled we have to lynch scum today.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:45
Al Sipsclar
This one goes out to you. I know you're different this game, but I think you're just more available, or care more.
I can feel that you want to lynch scums here. You can make it happen, or you give them the easy counterwagon.
Make the right choice, bud.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:46
GH and Aria on my wagon are always scums. Don't join them. you need every single vote.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:47
@Cuthilius NotACop
Let's roll. Consolidate. At this point, we choose one candidate. I've gotten all I need from the vote pressure assist.
Pick one and let's push every town vote onto it.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:48
Cuthillius
See above.
Mind the tally, the round is all the more critical for you.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:49
Sooh
Come on. You know this is the correct move. I've laid it all out. Trust me again.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:52
5 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith, Askthepizzaguy, Newyn, novice, Dp101)
^This block of people has 3-4 townies on it, and one guy who may as well be. And I was going to have a really rough time resolving Newyn. His support here makes him a townie, in my eyes.
That's your winning move. You can no longer afford to wait in order to make it.
Aim true. Do not split the wagon.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 00:52
Brb
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:53
NotACop strong townie. Add him and yourself if you're off wagon.
The rest are guilty.
Riedquat
11-12-2016, 00:53
:shrug: Wow... wogged ninja-style... :bow::bow::bow:
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just to avoid messing with the script...
Vote: Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 00:55
I love you, Reidquat.
:robot:
Have this smiley. If I get votes and you stay on Aria, you're town. For real, this time.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 01:00
EVERYONE who is on me and not familiar with my play look at the links I posted. I'm not scum here and I am town. We need to lynch scum today or else it's game over.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:05
Do I count as scum, from town's perspective, right now? Given the number of live players?
You're outed. There's no way you should be voting me over GH.
The only way I lynch here is if town doesn't mind the tally, again. It's really that obvious you're scum.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:07
I should have pressed this harder earlier. That's my only regret this game.
I can't believe that I even thought twice about this today. But if you make things too obvious then you eat a bullet.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:07
Well I'm making things obvious. It's allllll out there for people to see, now.
All I want is more stars on the side of my fighter yet. That's all I live and breathe for.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:09
I'm going to eat a bullet tonight and that makes it possible for town to win this game. Especially if 2 scums die too.
You honestly have to bet the whole farm on it. Time is up.
Riedquat
11-12-2016, 01:10
I love you, Reidquat.
:robot:
Have this smiley. If I get votes and you stay on Aria, you're town. For real, this time.
Wasn't for real the last time? You break my heart! I was more townie than many in the last game, who got your scum-mother lynched? I did! Also I never got to use my kill ability... pff...
My vote stays there but I have to go now!
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:10
I'm pizzaguy, and I catch bullets with my face.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:14
It's 1am my time, round is over soon. Where are you people?
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 01:14
I can't argue how crucial it is that we need scum gone tonight and I also realized how incredibly stupid it is on reread to not solve GH now because of the past counter wagons being him. He isn't really saying much but is usually on commentary mode something I thought was scum hunting but not really now. I need to think about this a bit more.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:15
If the vote is split, they're going to get away, frands. One of you dies tonight and I don't like your endgame chances after that.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:20
I can't argue how crucial it is that we need scum gone tonight and I also realized how incredibly stupid it is on reread to not solve GH now because of the past counter wagons being him. He isn't really saying much but is usually on commentary mode something I thought was scum hunting but not really now. I need to think about this a bit more.
This decision should have been easy. But Al didn't make it correctly either.
What I do wins for town. People shouldn't be worrying about the libertarian candidate at this juncture. It's R versus D, and you need to win that race first.
You are far too reluctant to push GH, and you're borrowing my case against him to walk yourself in that direction, in case you have to.
I'm sorry, but it is what it is.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:21
Sooh, again
Please be town. You not being here makes my stomach turn.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:26
Come on, I called your alignment correctly this game. Push it over the top. You saw her early, and I don't think it was bussing. Clear yourself now.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 01:28
Anyways I don't care how bad this looks like but town have died and been lynched wanting GH dead. I'm just now seeing this but maybe I was just wrong on my outlook of him at first glance.
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
I'm honestly confused at this point, do you want us to vote GH or aria, or do you not care?
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2016, 01:32
I'm honestly confused at this point, do you want us to vote GH or aria, or do you not care?
I care, but the situation is such that if you split on 2 different scums, I have 3 votes. I can be CFD'ed and neither dies.
You have to mind the tally and consolidate.
I have to go shut this off and try to relax before bed. I don't know how possible that's going to be.
If you have ISO'ed Scarlett and you have looked at my posts this round, I've made it astoundingly easy.
glgl
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 01:34
I'm honestly confused at this point, do you want us to vote GH or aria, or do you not care?
Why does you want to listen to a guy who just said may or may not be SK? That sounds like it would just get us in more trouble.
Why does you want to listen to a guy who just said may or may not be SK? That sounds like it would just get us in more trouble.
If he is SK, he probably wants to kill mafia since they are the only guys who can kill him. He has no reason to kill people he thinks are town, because there is no incentive to kill them quickly.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 01:42
If he is SK, he probably wants to kill mafia since they are the only guys who can kill him. He has no reason to kill people he thinks are town, because there is no incentive to kill them quickly.
well either way he could just target town in the night too which is why I never trust claims like that. DP you just saw me as mafia and even then I was less talkative then here.
Scarlett Aria
11-12-2016, 02:07
Who is around because I'm here and this is going to be a lynch that should not happen.
GeneralHankerchief
11-12-2016, 02:58
These:
I have no reason to lie about any of my town reads. Those people are rock solid. You should not lynch them.
I want this, badly. Please let me be your dark knight. I'm definitely going to die.
You sincerely believe that what I'm saying now unprompted is a mafia fakeclaim?
Ok.
I am holding a gigantic 50 foot sign in neon letters that says look at Aria and GH.
I am giving you my time and energy for a cause that doesn't end in victory for me.
Do me that much of a favor.
I'm pulling a capo 3 here. I was neutral that game and I wrecked scum lives like no one's business. I think I've got 2.
If I'm correct, and look, honestly look. See if you agree.
If I'm correct, I slaughter wolves and get all the postgame glory. Well, half of it anyway.
You guys decide if I found the wolves. If not, I'm right here as the counter wagon. You don't even have to wonder what to do here.
I've made it as simple as possible. Either they're town and I should die, or I'm right, and I will ensure THEY die.
I love you, Reidquat.
:robot:
Have this smiley. If I get votes and you stay on Aria, you're town. For real, this time.
Do I count as scum, from town's perspective, right now? Given the number of live players?
You're outed. There's no way you should be voting me over GH.
The only way I lynch here is if town doesn't mind the tally, again. It's really that obvious you're scum.
I'm going to eat a bullet tonight and that makes it possible for town to win this game. Especially if 2 scums die too.
You honestly have to bet the whole farm on it. Time is up.
If the vote is split, they're going to get away, frands. One of you dies tonight and I don't like your endgame chances after that.
Sooh, again
Please be town. You not being here makes my stomach turn.
[second time Sooh has been tagged without her entering the thread, overdone]
Are not posts that Town Pizza (or even town-sided Pizza) makes.
He might be telling the truth about him having a beat on Scarlett, maybe not. But Town Pizza does not do this.
I want a CFD on him, I want this charade over, and I want the thread to be able to breathe again without him farting out 20 posts of noise in a half hour.
Synecdoche
11-12-2016, 03:02
Tally as of post 749:
Lynch votes
6 votes: Scarlett Aria (BSmith (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722680#post2053722680), Askthepizzaguy (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722850#post2053722850), Newyn (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722893#post2053722893), novice (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722903#post2053722903), Dp101 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722949#post2053722949), Riedquat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053723000#post2053723000))
3 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Cuthillius (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722780#post2053722780), NotACop (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722862#post2053722862), Scarlett Aria (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053723022#post2053723022))
2 votes: Askthepizzaguy (GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722748#post2053722748), Al Sipsclar (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?152222&p=2053722946#post2053722946))
Voting history:
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El Barto
Al Sipsclar
Newyn
BSmith
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
GeneralHankerchief
Cuthillius
Cuthillius
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
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Scarlet Aria
Scarlett Aria
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
Scarlett Aria
Askthepizzaguy
Scarlett Aria
GeneralHankerchief
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