Creative Assembly Napoleonic Mod [Archive] - Page 2

Ugliryu

05-06-2003, 14:31

I'd like to see two types a mounted and dismounted. I wouldn't give either of them firearms, just a sword, as it was a pretty rare day back then when officers would pick up a musket for the purpose of firing on the enemy. Maybe you could give them a handgun but nothing beyond that.

I was thinking that maybe having the dismounted version with 10 men would be enough but maybe 20 would be better.
They won't be pumping up anybody's morale ( unless of course you get a sp campaign going) and 10 men seems a little fragile to me. I'd like to see the dismounted because who wants to ride their charger into the breach at Badajoz? Not me brother

As for their actual prod stats, well until you get the manuever unit, projectile stats are all balanced, I'd wait to do them as then you'd be working off a good information base. I'd just make sure the morale and honor was higher.

LeBob,
I sent you an email, hope you got it.

The next map I'm doing is Borodino. Not the whole battle field just the Raevsky( probably spelled that wrong) redoubt and surrounding area. Basically the center of the line with Borodino on the attackers map edge and the redoubt deep in the center defenders position. I also plan on fixing and updating the maps I've already done as the ones I released have some topography details I wasn't sure about and some iffy texturing.

After i'm done those I'm going to start on the Peninsular campaign as I have an excellent reference for it in Captain John Kincaid's " Adventures in the the Rifle Brigade". I'll probably start with Busaco and work my way through his book from there. I have a nice map of Badajoz also so I'll definitely be doing that. I'm dying to storm those breaches. Too bad we didn't get ladders in MTW

Lord Krazy

05-07-2003, 21:53

Hi guys,

I'm back http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

How is it, when I go away, I get more mail? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Plus I have a few things to catch up on here too.

Which is good thing really. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Quote[/b] ]Quote (Demon of Light @ May 05 2003,12:30)
Do any of you guys know how to convert real pictures into potential portraits for your game?

Yes, I do. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Quote[/b] ]
Does this require some sort extensive knowledge?

No.

A copy of photoshop and a scanner, if the image is from
a format that needs a scanner.

Just clone the image onto a tga from the game.
This is not the only way but it's simple and it works.

I like simple it gets results quicker. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Quote[/b] ]Quote (Ugliryu @ May 04 2003,21:12)
Heyas,

Just tried some of the units in the 1.7 release. Pretty cool stuff. One thing I noticed that when the Scots were busy gunning down the Young Guard, the Young Guard bodies were appearing as dead horses. I know those guys were big men but holy cow Anybody else getting this? Maybe i just have a bad install...

I just put the wrong coords in the deadpage coords.txt thats all.

Just open the file and copy the coords from another
unit that does not have a horse.

A new update will be available shortly.

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Demon of Light

05-07-2003, 22:28

What I am more looking for is a way to make a picture resemble the MTW portraits in style. You'll notice that the MTW portraits all resemble oil paintings made during the Renaissance. Is it possible to make an actual photograph of a person look like an oil painting of the same person?

Lord Krazy

05-07-2003, 22:54

Yes you can yet again with photoshop.
What this has to do with our mod i'm
not sure.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

kaaskop

05-07-2003, 23:23

Welcome back LK how was your trip ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif
guess i'll have to get back to work now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Quote[/b] ]
How is it, when I go away, I get more mail?

hehe is that a trick question ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/flirt.gif

Lord Of Storms

05-08-2003, 13:47

It is good to have you back LK now rest up and lets get back to work http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Stormer

05-08-2003, 18:02

yea welcome back m8.

Demon of Light

05-08-2003, 19:12

Quote[/b] (Lord Krazy @ May 07 2003,14:54)]Yes you can yet again with photoshop.
What this has to do with our mod i'm
not sure.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
Good point. Let me explain:

I don't know how you guys are doing for portraits but with so many different factions, I'm guessing you don't have nearly enough. My thought is that if suitable portraits are difficult to come by ( lots of time spent scouring history books) then a more feasable option may be to convert appropriate photographs into portraits for your mod. If it is easy and quick to do, then all that is necessary is a large number of photographs to work with. This is not difficult. Most sites that track celebrities include head shots that may work for this purpose. I'm also thinking quite a few patrons here would donate pictures if it meant being a Napoleonic general.

How are you guys doing with portraits and how quickly are you finding them?

If you like the idea, I can see if I can track down a site with suitable photographs.

P.S: If nothing else, this idea is a way for the people who helped build this mod to insert themselves into the game.

Lord Krazy

05-09-2003, 14:29

I see, then we could have me as Napoleon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Or GW Bush as Fredrick the Great. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I like the idea and it has potential.
However I think we will stick to ripping off
other media sources and modders for now. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
It's easier that way believe me.
We have a lot of portraits that can be converted already.
Some have been so far.
I still have to confirm we can use them in manner
that will break down according to faction.

I wonder if my gran would mind being Queen Victoria.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Thanks
regards

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

05-09-2003, 17:11

Quote[/b] ]I wonder if my gran would mind being Queen Victoria.

Hehehe

Didnt just post to laugh at your look a like nan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Can you send me them units we spoke about LK i got nothing to do till tommoro when i get VI so im gonna do some.

Lord Krazy

05-09-2003, 21:32

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ May 09 2003,11:11)]Didnt just post to laugh at your look a like nan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Can you send me them units we spoke about LK i got nothing to do till tommoro when i get VI so im gonna do some.
I just got back so it's the robots week off now.
That means you will get them when my frail human carcas
can get round to it.

Your more like a hurricane than a storm http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

btw making fun of other peoples grans is
against the forum rules

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

05-09-2003, 22:42

Quote[/b] ]I just got back so it's the robots week off now.
That means you will get them when my frail human carcas
can get round to it.

Your more like a hurricane than a storm

Try going to school 5 days a week then you know what can get around to it means http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Quote[/b] ]btw making fun of other peoples grans is
against the forum rules

Looks down in shame http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

Lord Krazy

05-09-2003, 23:14

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ May 09 2003,16:42)]Try going to school 5 days a week then you know what can get around to it means http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
A set cariculum sounds the better option
at present. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

hal269091

05-10-2003, 17:11

@Demon of Light,

Please read here: http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....;st=150 (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=3163;st=150)

I'm still busy with the portraits. As for the number - I probably have enough Generals, Spies and Emissaries. I'm still lacking princesses, Admirals and especially Clerics (Priests, Bishops and Cardinals).

So if anyone would be willing to research the www for the portrait types mentioned above I will be more than thankful - actually I posted this before but unfortunately there was no reaction. It's WORK to go through - sometimes - pretty boring sites in search of these portraits. Probably this is the reason I'm doing it alone until now :-(.

I think it might be quite difficult to combine faces from photographs with other parts (uniform collars etc.) from oil paintings from that time and keep up a certain amount of quality and consistency. Not technically - should be easy in PS - but a whole lot of work - probably more than researching and scanning.

Lord Krazy

05-11-2003, 16:01

Hi hal http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Lord Krazy

05-11-2003, 16:03

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ May 10 2003,04:33)]http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

getting VI in couple of hours http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
do you have it yet LK?
Yes I have it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Jango Fett

05-11-2003, 21:49

lord krazy the green jackets fire way too far...its impossible to win when playing against someone with greenjackets http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Lord Krazy

05-11-2003, 21:56

get in close, or get a cannon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord Black Adder

05-12-2003, 14:08

Jango green jackets have special powers. I post you a cheat. LBA

Stormer

05-12-2003, 15:23

erm LK they aint the stats for they units are they http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

i think they need a little tweaking this is what i think needs to be changed in my opionuion.

- Rifles men have less range.

- more morale on cav

Thats about it so your nearly perfect http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Lord Krazy

05-12-2003, 16:37

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ May 12 2003,09:23)]erm LK they aint the stats for they units are they http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

i think they need a little tweaking this is what i think needs to be changed in my opionuion.

- Rifles men have less range.

- more morale on cav

Thats about it so your nearly perfect http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
A little tweaking?
Ok next time I'll use a 10 sided dice. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

- Rifles
Historicly or in gameplay terms?

- more morale on cav
you get what you pay for. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Thats about it so your nearly perfect http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Ok next time I'll use a 2 sided dice. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

OK don't worry they are not the final stats.

The final ones will be much worse.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

hal269091

05-12-2003, 17:51

Hi LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

ROFL - everytime I ask people to help with research it gets rather qiet - it seems to be the easiest way to be left alone. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

I messed around a bit with the frontend images (cloth-type background aso..)and got them running, but when I want to load a game the red loading box fills halfway and then I can hear a pinging sound from an errormessage but I'm not able to see it. It's in the background somewhere on the desktop and alt+tab ist no more working neither is ctrl+alt+del. I have to restart the PC.

Any Idea?

I did as you told me by opening the original files and just copying the changes into them before saving. And it does look good - until the second half of the loading box.

As for the portraits I'm still busy converting them - should be around 150 now with probably another 100 still left to do (not quite sure if the numbers are right but should be around that).

Will post some more examples soon.

Stormer

05-12-2003, 18:04

hehehe

id rather pay for Napolonic mod then VI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

but im not gonna http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Lord Krazy

05-12-2003, 18:10

Quote[/b] (hal269091 @ May 12 2003,11:51)]Hi LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

ROFL - everytime I ask people to help with research it gets rather qiet - it seems to be the easiest way to be left alone. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

I messed around a bit with the frontend images (cloth-type background aso..)and got them running, but when I want to load a game the red loading box fills halfway and then I can hear a pinging sound from an errormessage but I'm not able to see it. It's in the background somewhere on the desktop and alt+tab ist no more working neither is ctrl+alt+del. I have to restart the PC.

Any Idea?

I did as you told me by opening the original files and just copying the changes into them before saving. And it does look good - until the second half of the loading box.

As for the portraits I'm still busy converting them - should be around 150 now with probably another 100 still left to do (not quite sure if the numbers are right but should be around that).

Will post some more examples soon.
Well for a one man show your not doing to bad
anyway http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

when you save the files you create in photoshop you
will not end up with the same format as the file in
MTW as a rule.

I'm going to give a simplistic example
for my sake. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Open new tga same size and so on as tga in game,
add new image to new tga, save, add to game.

It won't work. simple ok. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Second option

copy an original tga from the game
open said tga in photo shop
clone new image onto said tga.

Save said tga

Put said tga in the game you will
see it. It may not be the most difficult
correct way to do it but it works.

The lbms are worse. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

so what did you change and how?

BTW please don't post it here it could get messy. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

thanks

regards

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Demon of Light

05-12-2003, 18:15

Quote[/b] (hal269091 @ May 10 2003,09:11)]@Demon of Light,

Please read here: http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....;st=150 (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=3163;st=150)

I'm still busy with the portraits. As for the number - I probably have enough Generals, Spies and Emissaries. I'm still lacking princesses, Admirals and especially Clerics (Priests, Bishops and Cardinals).

So if anyone would be willing to research the www for the portrait types mentioned above I will be more than thankful - actually I posted this before but unfortunately there was no reaction. It's WORK to go through - sometimes - pretty boring sites in search of these portraits. Probably this is the reason I'm doing it alone until now :-(.

I think it might be quite difficult to combine faces from photographs with other parts (uniform collars etc.) from oil paintings from that time and keep up a certain amount of quality and consistency. Not technically - should be easy in PS - but a whole lot of work - probably more than researching and scanning.
Truth be told, it was actually the very post that you directed me to that gave me the idea initially. I was asking about the ease of accomplishing such a task precisely because I thought it might be a more viable alternative to the research involved in getting authentic portraits. As you stated though, the task is too labor intensive to really be worth the trouble so...

Might I impose upon you to grant me a request Hal? The identification picture for my college is, by pure coincidence, a nearly perfect thumbnail of roughly the same proportions as a MTW portrait. Might I send you that picture that it may be rendered into a portrait in the style of Medieval Total War?

P.S: I'm looking for clerics now...

hal269091

05-12-2003, 18:48

@LK

I'll send you an email.

@Demon of Light

Sure mate, just send the pic to: webmaster@finupdivers.com

Demon of Light

05-12-2003, 22:06

Hal,

Not much here but one or two might serve for clerics
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2783/pictures.html

Again, more pictures but several are still from the wrong era. Let me know if you want me to do some sorting (shudder) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/2603/image.htm

Apollinaris of Posat
http://www.capuchinfriars.org.au/apollina.htm
He exists the same era as Napoleon. He was killed during the French Revolution after refusing to swear allegiance to the Revolution. The site has names along the left side of the screen. These are Franciscans of note. Little attention needs to be paid to era as Franciscans are remakably consistant about their attire. Several pertraits there but you might want to religate them all to priests considering that bishops and cardinals looked MUCH different. Still, Franciscans did alot of the church's grunt work so it seems fitting that they would be represented as priests in the mod.

Another site. Much easier to navigate and some of the pictures look usable
http://carmelnet.org/galleries/Saints/Listing/listing.htm

This is what I have for now. Let me know if more is needed.

The site below might generate more images.
http://jerome2007.tripod.com/catholic_web_links.htm
I don't exactly know what you are looking for so please specify if the type of images you are looking for are among those I supplied.

hal269091

05-13-2003, 15:44

@DoL

have a look at www.npg.org.uk - its the far most useful site for these portraits I ever found.

A very good example what I'm looking for is: http://www.npg.org.uk/live....ole=sit (http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/portrait.asp?name=cardinal&ow=restrict&search=as&desc=&grp=&lDate=1850&LinkID=mp04973&occ=&eDate=1750&medium=painting&rNo=2&role=sit)

Prerequisites:

1. The portrait should have been made from 1750-1850
2. The face of the sitter should be roughly the size of an MTW portraits face - not less. Larger is ok http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
3. If it comes with a name it should be used as file name - later I can create the names lists from these.
4. The style should - if possible - be like an oil painting. It's much more work to change the look of drawings, prints or lithographs into the appropriate style.

I.e. Goyas paintings were very useful for me but I don't know enough portraitists of that time so I could search the web for their names.

What I'm still lacking:

1. Generals: Still Austrians missing (white Uniform - i have some 12 or 15), I have enough Russian, British, Prussian, Spanish and French

2. Admirals: I have mostly British (no surprise) but not enough of them (high priority)

3. Emmissaries: I have enough of them, but would accept more if the portraits are nice (low priority)

4. Spies and assassins: see Emmissaries

5. Priests, Bishops, Cardinals: I have not more than 20 - so lots of them missing (high priority)

6. Princesses: I have not more than 50 - so still some of them missing (but not at a high priority)

7. Monarchs: Not sure about what to do with them - of course I have the ones that ruled through the Napoleonic period - but probably they will not be enough. And in the game they never will be assigned correctly.

1-7 for Muslim (Ottoman Empire): I only have 4 or 5 portraits at all - so nearly all of them missing.

I guess someone who is more skillful than I am in modding the gamefiles should start thinking about the structure the Nap Mod will use. Will we try to use the religious structure in some way? During the Napolonic Period religions were not really a matter neither created differences between the factions (except maybe for the Ottoman Empire).

So what for could these structures be useful. May we be able to use them for assigning the right portraits to some of the factions? I.e. by dividing by uniform colours (blus for French and Prussian, red for British a.s.o.)?

Or will there be other items like development trees which will not match but override these needs?

I guess that the implementation into and the use of the religious system structure within the Nap Mod could be one of the most challenging tasks to do.

When considering this of course we should think about the development trees for the different factions. Hopefully we'll find a way to use them for grouping our Napoleonic factions so these groups could match the existing religious structure.

Just some thoughts...

In the meantime I will go on with the portraits - btw DoL - you didn't tell me what you would like to be - a princess I assume http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Demon of Light

05-13-2003, 16:32

I'd like to be a European MTW general. Did any of the pictures work in the links I sent or is searching through those links for appropriate pictures my job?

hal269091

05-13-2003, 17:10

@DoL

Yes, some of the pictures were useable - I already sorted them out. BTW - I guess I didn't thank you for the links - done herewith. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

I wouldn't mind if you could find new ones. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Not a princess... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif ... I was really looking forward doing that.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Stormer

05-14-2003, 07:32

LK you planning on makeing any new units of faction for your mod or you just putting the fisnishing tounches on it now
btw realse date?

and you site outta bandwith it said to me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Lord Of Storms

05-14-2003, 13:21

Miiror Link for Nap. Mod (http://www.zen11872.zen.co.uk/)Stormer, here is the mirror link for the Nap. mod you should be able to get what you need here, as far as the Mods release date The Lords still have some work to do before the entire mod is released, with VI's release we have been busy sorting things out. The campaign script is being tweaked, trade issues, Names/Titles etc. being addressed I am sure once we complete and release the Mod as a whole the end result will be worth the wait http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif So until then enjoy the Unit Betas and keep sending us your feedback. Thanks LOS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Stormer

05-14-2003, 13:58

sweet, add some more british troops will ya http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

btw u making a campgin for it.

Lord Krazy

05-14-2003, 20:39

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ May 14 2003,07:58)]sweet, add some more british troops will ya http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

btw u making a campgin for it.
That's what we tought you were waiting for. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

The unit betas are just a sample of what we wish
to do with the whole game.

The units were released just to show
we have not just been talking about it.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Plus to see if people would be interested.
They seem to be

Quote[/b] ]and you site outta bandwith

As my brain but that won't stop me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Quote[/b] ]btw realse date?

As I have stated before
I was released a long time ago
and I don't want to talk about it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

05-14-2003, 21:47

same old crap http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

TenkiSoratoti

05-15-2003, 00:50

Well Krazy; me, 'stormer', 'jango', 'thomas', 'mich' and someone by the name of 'general wellington' have been playing it alot. AT least i am now reasured by the fact that many of the probs will be fixed, for example the fact that the brits kick everyones buttox.

Lord Krazy

05-15-2003, 02:14

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ May 14 2003,15:47)]same old crap http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif
Well if people keep asking the same questions,
apart from telling lies, I shall continue
to give the same answeres. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

When I have a different answere,
I won't be keeping it to myself, don't worry. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lord Krazy

05-15-2003, 02:18

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ May 14 2003,18:50)]for example the fact that the brits kick everyones buttox.
I don't know why that is.
They should all be the same more or less.

Anyway good to see "the dirty half dozen"
keeping the mp flag flying. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

05-15-2003, 16:27

Quote[/b] ]Anyway good to see "the dirty half dozen"
keeping the mp flag flying.

look at us as your beta testers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
im glad brits kick ass not our fault we are best country http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif also LK i found a problem Cav loose to normal inf both on same Valour i cant be doing with this as i love to bring over 50% of cav to battle all the time just ask the dirty dozen they have felt the Royal draggons, life guards, scots greys wraith http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

TenkiSoratoti

05-15-2003, 23:50

Stormer said:

Quote[/b] ]im glad brits kick ass not our fault we are best country

Ricky watch it, its all good to be patriotic but dont go starting a flame war.

Stormer said:

Quote[/b] ]also LK i found a problem Cav loose to normal inf both on same Valour i cant be doing with this as i love to bring over 50% of cav to battle

Ricky get over it lol, the infantry made up the majority of a napoleonic army. Never ever do a frontal assault, use diversional cavs and cavs to attack the flanks to cause disorder, then lead a bayonet charge with infantry in the centre while the enemy muskies are disordered from the flank cav attack and youll have a nice clean rout. Like krazy said this is only the beta, evolution has only just begun.
Long live the nap mod and may it reagn hard in VI.

TenkiSoratoti

Gaaah forgot to say, krazy the green jackets make the brits the best and the same goes with the jaegar infantry for the prussians. I think we have made a rule now not to bring them against nations that dont have those long range snipers.

Stormer

05-16-2003, 09:29

Quote[/b] ]Ricky get over it lol, the infantry made up the majority of a napoleonic army. Never ever do a frontal assault, use diversional cavs and cavs to attack the flanks to cause disorder, then lead a bayonet charge with infantry in the centre while the enemy muskies are disordered from the flank

Get over it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

ah not too botherd still beat you lot with them anyway http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

TenkiSoratoti

05-16-2003, 19:28

You have yet to beat me.

Lord Krazy

05-16-2003, 22:38

Ok guys I left the other thread open
that Tenkisoratoti started so you could
make that your mp toasting ground. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

So take it there. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Thank you.

btw if you could stick to the fundementals there,
it would be nice also. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

However I will understand the need to throw taunts
across the battlefield if stormer keeps winning.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

I'll see you in the mp thread. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

TenkiSoratoti

05-16-2003, 23:02

Ok, i was merely pointing out that i have wooped ricky's arse so many times and he aint wooped me once at nap mod yet so ha

Anyway LordKrazy i can get you a huge database on all the units that fought at the battle of Waterloo, ligny, quatre bras, nivelles etc if you really want, im not sure how deep youll be going into the time but it would be a sin not to recreate those particular battles.
Plus wellingtons finest troops were located in the colonies (now known as america http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif), im not sure whether yuo'll want those troops either? because i think they were present in the peninsula campaigns....

TenkiSoratoti (some would say the last of the tenki)

Stormer

05-17-2003, 09:46

ok tenki here i go bring up bad history.

yes you beat me in a 2v2 but rember i was holding off 2 of you ( u who had a hill advatage with them stupid jeagers inf) and about 4 french troops. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Oh the baenet charge we had yep i won that ok tenki the sooner you get over it the better btw we must have a 1v1 tonight http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

OH its on

Stormer

05-18-2003, 00:06

Lk i was wondering is it possible for u to create new formation say instead of the wedge maybe tunr it into a sqaure for cav charges and they get morale. also i got 2 bugs iv noticed

-when french young guard die there bodies are horses
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

-the royal dragoons some times when chargeing have a shadow below them which is the soldier on horses back but wearing blue lol its weird.

thats it for now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

TenkiSoratoti

05-18-2003, 17:45

Ricky doing the old change the formation thing would mean completely remaking the engine I THINK (i think one of the team can correct me). And either that is too much work or it cant be done simple as that.

Lord Krazy

05-18-2003, 22:03

LK is wondering if stormer will ever have the
time to read the other posts in this thread to
see if any of his questions have been answered. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Like the Young guards question answered already.
About four pages ago, somewhere after
the formation explaination and before
your questions. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

It seems I could just make a career of dealing with you.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Anyway while you boys are playing mp
mostly then surly one of you must know
how to edit the prod11.
(if not i will show you)
Then you can edit it and send
me the variations that work for you.

I'll then post them as the standered mp files.

Does that sound ok to you.
Then you can leave me alone.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

(apart from dead french men that turn into horses and
two headed charging horse men) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

btw please don't speak of these things as been
mine.They are ours, that is what modding is all about.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Regards

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

05-19-2003, 07:13

Quote[/b] ]LK is wondering if stormer will ever have the
time to read the other posts in this thread to
see if any of his questions have been answered.

do i have toooooo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Quote[/b] ]Anyway while you boys are playing mp
mostly then surly one of you must know
how to edit the prod11.
(if not i will show you)
Then you can edit it and send
me the variations that work for you.

I'll then post them as the standered mp files.

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Quote[/b] ]Does that sound ok to you.
Then you can leave me alone.

Neverrrrrrrrrr http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Quote[/b] ]btw please don't speak of these things as been
mine.They are ours, that is what modding is all about.

???

Lord Krazy

05-19-2003, 20:45

Quote[/b] ]do i have toooooo

No but you should.
At leaast the last ten pages.
You may even get something from it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Quote[/b] ]Quote
btw please don't speak of these things as been
mine.They are ours, that is what modding is all about.

???

I meant this thread, mod and all
the work we do at the Lords
is not LK's it's the communities.
i'm just a small cog in a big wheel.
You badger me to change stats
so you are part of the process too.
I do my share and others do thiers
so I don't want things spoken of in terms
of being mine.
That's all I meant.

A lot of people are working on this and
I would hate to think that they are over looked
because I do the readmes.

I know you did not mean anythig by it
I just tought it another ggod chance
to mention the fact.

As for the stats well you keep asking me to change them
for multiplayer and I am giving you guy's the chance to
do it.

You know what you want so do it.
Like I said one of you must know how to do it
and if not i'll explain.

Quote[/b] ]Neverrrrrrrrrr

Ok I live in hope http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

05-19-2003, 21:46

stats be nice how you could tell me how to do me and uxbridge really involved in this game we cant stop playing it. its turned to an addiction he said earliar you see what you have created LK (and his men in tights http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif )hehehe on a serious note can u tell me how to do these stats things if we do r u gonna change them in like a couple of months once the whole things realsed cause i stick with the ones atm if you are.

anyways thxs for reply. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

GoldenKnightX2

05-19-2003, 23:08

anyway i can get Napoleanic mod
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

GoldenKnightX2

05-19-2003, 23:08

anyway i can get Napoleanic mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

LeBob

05-20-2003, 12:34

Goldenknight,

go to http://napoleontotalwar.tripod.com

Lord le bob

Lord Of Storms

05-20-2003, 15:26

Quote[/b] (GoldenKnightX2 @ May 19 2003,17:08)]anyway i can get Napoleanic mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
You have to use the Mirror link to get the Nap. Mod unit betas the main site has reached its bandwith. Here is the Link Nap. Mod Link (http://www.zen11872.zen.co.uk/) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

GoldenKnightX2

05-20-2003, 16:10

Thanks LORD OF STORMS http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Teutonic Knight

05-20-2003, 17:55

didn't have time to read this whole thread, but when will this mod be all polished and ready for the public to download?

Stormer

05-20-2003, 18:26

Well LK says to me "when its ready" but i think about a couple of months

Lord Of Storms

05-21-2003, 15:35

Quote[/b] (Teutonic Knight @ May 20 2003,11:55)]didn't have time to read this whole thread, but when will this mod be all polished and ready for the public to download?
We are currently modifying the Nap.Mod campaign script to adapt it to VI, A new tech tree and buildings are in the works also. I would say a few months sounds about right , We are striving to make The Mods first release a quality project and this takes time , with VI now out we had to decide which platform to use for the Mod and we chose VI for now, and with that we all had to give VI a good going over to get used to the changes made to the files.So a little patience and the end result will be worth the wait. Thank you all for your support and feedback. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Demon of Light

05-21-2003, 22:11

With your adaptation of the mod to VI, will people who have not yet had a chance to buy the expansion still be able to play the mod? Also, I understand that the creation of heroes is now possible. Has there been any discussion about who to include and what the stats will be?

Efrem Da King

05-22-2003, 12:05

Oh goed I just got a new comp and My major half year exams are next week, but after that expet me to be around and setting up sites.

Lord Of Storms

05-22-2003, 15:19

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ May 21 2003,16:11)]With your adaptation of the mod to VI, will people who have not yet had a chance to buy the expansion still be able to play the mod? Also, I understand that the creation of heroes is now possible. Has there been any discussion about who to include and what the stats will be?
DOL, The Lords will most likely release a 1.1 version of the mod for those who do not choose to buy VI ,all in good time. As to the addition of "Heroes" this is an option we were looking forward to as the names tables in V 1.1 leave alot to be desired in adding names ( anyone who has done this knows what I mean)So we will be taking advantage of that feature, as to who appears and what there stats are remains to be discussed, for a Napoloeonic campaign some choices are obvious http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lord Of Storms

05-22-2003, 15:21

Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ May 22 2003,06:05)]Oh goed I just got a new comp and My major half year exams are next week, but after that expet me to be around and setting up sites.
Good to have you back EDK, I like your avatar by the way very nice http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif keep us up to date on your site and Thank you for your continued support it is greatly appreciated. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Saracen

05-22-2003, 19:56

Can't get on your side. You have exceeded your bandwidth????? If you are going to do this how about getting a real place on the web?

Lord Krazy

05-22-2003, 23:31

Quote[/b] (Saracen @ May 22 2003,13:56)]Can't get on your side. You have exceeded your bandwidth????? If you are going to do this how about getting a real place on the web?
http://www.zen11872.zen.co.uk/
This is a mirror site
it has yet to be down.

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Efrem Da King

05-23-2003, 08:32

I haven't even rinstalled medieval yet and don't plan to get vikings till agust the 21st (my birthday). But I'll try to set up site with athe latest copy for download soon.

LeBob

05-23-2003, 12:26

To all:

I just finished to compile musics for napoleon troops. I have about 12 of them.
Anybody has english, russian, austrian, and prussian songs used in combat?
These will be very nice addition to the Napoleonic Mod.

I am also working on the tech tree and it will be finalized very soon.
Any wishes, comments or other about the tech tree and the units buiding is more than welcome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Lord Le Bob
http:\\napoleontotalwar.tripod.com

GilJaysmith

05-23-2003, 17:49

I've just shown this mod to various of the MTW team, including the original unit artists, and everyone's very impressed.

Damn fine job...

Efrem Da King

05-24-2003, 02:11

Quote[/b] (Saracen @ May 23 2003,12:57)]Efrem-link doesn't work
Sh*t your right

Just go here then I can't get links working http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/napoleonic/Mod.zip

THat should work.

Coldstream

05-24-2003, 12:45

"Waterloo: Napoleon's Last Battle" rides again?

Lord Of Storms

05-24-2003, 19:13

I have completed a major portion of translating the camapign to the VI platform, all the province assignments are complete, just some tweaking to the names files and I have been able to declare new trade goods to the VI campaign so we can add what we like this will prove interesting and add a nice touch to the mod,For My fellow Lords in regards to the mail I sent I thank those that did respond keeping in touch at this stage is crucial we all have our assigned tasks and should proceed ahead, if any questions or problems arise of course contact each other immediatley. Thanks to all. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Brother Derfel

05-24-2003, 19:21

This is promising news Lord of Storms.

I can't wait for your final release of this mod

The new trade goods sound particulary cool, anything that makes this mod feel more neapoleonic, and not just Medival with a napoleonic shell is welcome.

Thanks for sticking with this mod guys it looks brilliant so far http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Lord Krazy

05-24-2003, 21:11

Quote[/b] (GilJaysmith @ May 23 2003,11:49)]Damn fine job...
Thank you very much Gil. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

We try our best and if you guys think it's ok
well that's more than I ever expected. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Thank you again.

Regards,

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

TenkiSoratoti

05-24-2003, 23:03

Good thing, Lord Krazy, then that there are 'persons' who are on good terms with members of the CA team. And for someone who is desperately looking forward to the first non beta compilation such as myself does his best to spread the word....

Lord Of Storms

05-25-2003, 22:28

Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ May 24 2003,13:21)]This is promising news Lord of Storms.

I can't wait for your final release of this mod

The new trade goods sound particulary cool, anything that makes this mod feel more neapoleonic, and not just Medival with a napoleonic shell is welcome.

Thanks for sticking with this mod guys it looks brilliant so far http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
Your quite welcome Brother D. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I cannot tell you how many Mods have fell by the wayside due to half hearted commitments and lack of communication. The Lords are trying to do the best job possible in offering you a quality Mod. Lord Krazy and Lord Black Adder have broken new ground in unit animations and have brought Movable ArtilleryWhen the doubters said it could not be done and more is to come when the people who have created the very game we love to play and Mod offer there praises that says alot http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif With the time we had to wait for VI to be released and then to acclimate to the new setup I can honestly say things are on track and progressing forward. And to you and all our supporters We The Lords Thank You for your patience in the Mods development. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

MR EGG

05-27-2003, 23:39

Hello all. Love the way this mod is progressing.
Lk do you still have copies of those units I sent you?
I ask because Ive wiped all my work by accident :mad:and didn't back up any files http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif so if you don't mind could you send them to me www.issywhizzy@aol.com thanks M.E http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lord Krazy

05-28-2003, 00:10

Quote[/b] (MR EGG @ May 27 2003,17:39)]Hello all. Love the way this mod is progressing.
Lk do you still have copies of those units I sent you?
I ask because Ive wiped all my work by accident :mad:and didn't back up any files http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif so if you don't mind could you send them to me www.issywhizzy@aol.com thanks M.E http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Just as well you sent them. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

I will make several copies and cd's
then I'll send them straight away.

If they were lost I would cry as much as you
my friend. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Now VI is here they will
be rampaging in many hard disks soon I hope.
I'm looking forward to the ECW mod very much.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord Of Storms

05-31-2003, 21:17

Just a quick update on the Napoleonic Mod Campaign , The Campaign as a whole is slowly coming together, we are learning to take advantage of the new features offered to us in VI and this will make the campaign have a good overall Napoleonic feel to it . New trade goods are being added. The portraits are all being "Nappified" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif and Key players of the Napoleonic era are going to have a portrait to match there name. More to come soon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Brother Derfel

05-31-2003, 21:54

Just a quick question. On the Strategic map, will there be new agents and ships for the Napoleonic period? And have you got all new buildings for the tech tree as well?

Cheers,

Derfel

Lord Of Storms

05-31-2003, 22:08

Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ May 31 2003,15:54)]Just a quick question. On the Strategic map, will there be new agents and ships for the Napoleonic period? And have you got all new buildings for the tech tree as well?

Cheers,

Derfel
Greetings Bro. D Our goal is to have everything we can change to have a Napoleonic look and feel to it I can say Yes to the Ships and Agents/Pieces these will be changed to reflect the era, as to the buildings we have found some good models. Lord Le Bob is doing an excellent job in working up a new tech tree. Thanks for your continued interest and support http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

TenkiSoratoti

05-31-2003, 22:44

I guess with v1.8 that will work with VI, correct?
Right well, this mod still isnt getting the popularity in the lobby it deserves. Trying desperately to get more people to play but alas i lack the advertising capabilities. Hopefully when i get my new tenki (name is changed for mtw) site up ill advertise it there.

TenkiSoratoti

GreasePaintMonkeyBrains

06-01-2003, 07:10

I love playing your mod . I would be happy to help in
any way i can ( map making what ever)

regards
monkey

TenkiSoratoti

06-01-2003, 10:28

Quote[/b] (GreasePaintMonkeyBrains @ June 01 2003,01:10)]I love playing your mod . I would be happy to help in
any way i can ( map making what ever)

regards
monkey
If you want to help them Come and play in the lobby you would be expanding the nap mod empire in the lobby and would be having great fun at the same time. Open up a scourging volley of fire then lead a mountanous bayonet charge At the moment Nap mod battles have to be arranged because there simply arnt enough people who play so if you wanna play someone contact me or Lord Uxbridge:
ohoward@hotmail.com - Lord Uxbridge
Tenkisoratoti@hotmail.com - Me

Lord Of Storms

06-01-2003, 14:59

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 01 2003,04:28)]
Quote[/b] (GreasePaintMonkeyBrains @ June 01 2003,01:10)]I love playing your mod . I would be happy to help in
any way i can ( map making what ever)

regards
monkey
If you want to help them Come and play in the lobby you would be expanding the nap mod empire in the lobby and would be having great fun at the same time. Open up a scourging volley of fire then lead a mountanous bayonet charge At the moment Nap mod battles have to be arranged because there simply arnt enough people who play so if you wanna play someone contact me or Lord Uxbridge:
ohoward@hotmail.com - Lord Uxbridge
Tenkisoratoti@hotmail.com - Me
Sure GPMB we could always use extra help as far as battle maps that would Lord LeBob's area, did you have a specific battle for the period in mind? We appreciate the offer I will be in touch http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif TENKII hereby appoint you the Nap. Mods official PR Man http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Thank you for your efforts in spreading the word on the Nap. Mod it is greatly appreciated http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

TenkiSoratoti

06-01-2003, 17:27

Cool Cool, im feebily trying to build a dedicated fan site of it, but seeing as im kind of a novice to Dreamweaver MX its taking me ages.

Press Release man hmmm, we musnt forget the efforts of Lord Uxbridge who is essentially the brains behind the history part and also a formidable foe on the field of battle.

Um.... and there is just one other thing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Could you possibly please give us a rough date of when the next unit beta is going to be released to the masses?

Brother Derfel

06-01-2003, 17:51

Quick question (I know another one)

You wouldn't happen to have any idea yet how big the final file will be to download?

It's just that i am on a 56k modem, and I'd hate to not be able to get this mod if it turns out to be HUGE or something.

Tenkisora, I will be back to playing Nap Mod Mp as soon as my exams are done and I don't have to waste valuable MP time revising. Don't give up hope, I will always be willing to play it.

TenkiSoratoti

06-01-2003, 18:23

Brother derfel:
Quote[/b] ]I don't have to waste valuable MP time revising

LOL, I have exams to at the moment but they are pretty unimportant.

Lord Krazy

06-01-2003, 19:47

Quote[/b] ]Um.... and there is just one other thing Could you possibly please give us a rough date of when the next unit beta is going to be released to the masses?

Well I had some things to deal with recently
that left LBA working on his own.
This means we won't have another unit release
for a week or so as alot of files have to be
sorted still.

As for the masses , well I have a load of
bmps waiting to be turned into bifs
and untill then I don't have them either. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

You'd be surprised how quick the masses
(all 12 of you) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
get the files after we finish them.
On second toughts remember the
guards that became horses and the cav that
went wierd when they charged and so on
just goes to show. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

When we have them you will have them very soon after. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

In a week or so as I said we should be able to give you something more. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lord Krazy

06-01-2003, 19:58

Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ June 01 2003,11:51)]Quick question (I know another one)

You wouldn't happen to have any idea yet how big the final file will be to download?

It's just that i am on a 56k modem, and I'd hate to not be able to get this mod if it turns out to be HUGE or something.
Well it's already big so I can only assume
it will be much bigger.

We will break into parts for people like us. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I have to have all the files
to tell you how big it's going to be.
However I don't have all the files.
Some have not been made yet.

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

sunray

06-02-2003, 00:07

Hi,

I have been monitoring your mod for some time now, ever since I first stumbled across it. I have eagerly downloaded every version up to 1.7, and I just couldn't help but offer a few words of encouragement.

I love your mod. You have all done a fabulous job creating it. I actually play it in preference to the original Medieval game. Don't get me wrong, Medieval is quite a good game. But I guess it was the game we had to have before Rome : Total War.

But seriously, back to your mod. It is brilliant, and I can't wait to get hold of the completed version.

What would be heaven? Napoleon: Total War using the Rome:Total War game engine

Keep up the good work. People like you extend the pleasure that we get out of games, and give us much more enjoyment from them.

regards

sunray

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22(ReAl II

06-02-2003, 03:04

Hi, I have been in awe of your mod for a while lord krazy and co, but I cant play it cause I have VTW installed. When will a download be ready for nap mod on VTW?

Lord Krazy

06-02-2003, 05:39

Quote[/b] (sunray @ June 01 2003,18:07)]

Quote[/b] ]What would be heaven? Napoleon: Total War using the Rome:Total War game engine

That's what I call vision. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
It's on the cards but I'll be up for pension by then. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

(advert: young lords needed)

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Quote[/b] ]Keep up the good work. People like you extend the pleasure that we get out of games, and give us much more enjoyment from them.

People like you make it more worthwhile
for the guys that have commited their time
and energy to try and add to the enjoyment
of this game. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

Thank you for your support

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Efrem Da King

06-02-2003, 09:36

Oh so I can still play 1.7 YAY

LeBob

06-02-2003, 13:11

To GreasePaintMonkeyBrains

You defenetely can help I was making some historical battles (Marengo) but since I worked on the tech tree, the music, and other stuff I let this down a little....
So here are something you could help with. Maybe you could lead in the development of some historical campaign. Starting maybe with the italian campaign (first Napoleon campaign)...I can help with the modding and finding some info.

To all, Check the Napoleon mod web site at http://napoleontotalwar.tripod.com
What can you find there, Starting tomorrow, you will have an update on where does the mod stand, some screenshots and maybe more if I have time.

The mod is progressing well as LOS mentioned. The music is done and will be probably a 7 Meg file (mp3) that will need to be changed into wav (wav are way to big to be downloaded).

If you have any oilpainting images of units please let us know and we will see if we could use them.

Thanks for your interest.

Lord Le Bob

http://napoleontotalwar.tripod.com

Lord Of Storms

06-02-2003, 15:26

Quote[/b] (22(ReAl II @ June 01 2003,21:04)]Hi, I have been in awe of your mod for a while lord krazy and co, but I cant play it cause I have VTW installed. When will a download be ready for nap mod on VTW?
22 you can still enjoy the Unit Betas by simply doing another install of MTW alone just change the name of the new MTW folder when prompted and your on your way http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Rosacrux

06-02-2003, 17:08

Heya Lords, just a quick question:

Can I use those units in VI if I insert manually the appropriate entries for the respective files? Names, descriptions, deadpage, of course the Unitprod... am I missing something?

I used to do that alot in MTW but with VI I am kinda lost and I'd appreciate any help. Are there any other txts besides the above three in which I have to add something?

Becuase I've gone through the whole thing and I got the message "unknown Unit in column 2 row 183" - which is actually the first of the custom units I added.

Am I doing something wrong? bifs and txts are all in the appropriate folders.

Lord Krazy

06-02-2003, 17:31

Ros you got the idea. The error sounds like
you have messed up the prod11.

Have you just added the lines from the mtw prod11
to the VI prod11? If so this will happen.

If you can be bothered you will have to
add the units youself to the prod11.
i.e copy existing unit from VI prod11
add edit the name and add the other entries.

It's what I'm doing right now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If you wish to do it also I won't mind.
I would like to see a few other versions
from other people anyway.

regards
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord Krazy

06-02-2003, 17:51

http://mysite.freeserve.com/lordkrazy/images/8-picture1.gif

http://mysite.freeserve.com/lordkrazy/images/8-picture3.gif

A couple of the portraits of some guys in the game. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

GreasePaintMonkeyBrains

06-02-2003, 18:34

Ok then,

I think ill start the italian historical campaign. ill start the
research today and ill start the campaign tomarrow.

Regards

Monkey

Rosacrux

06-02-2003, 19:02

Lord_Krazy

I figured it out at last... and it's a bloody shetload of work... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Big King Sanctaphrax

06-02-2003, 19:10

Hi. I just downloaded your superlative Mod, and I am really enjoying it. Your dedication and commitment shines through in the gameplay and presentation.
Anyway, I wonder if you can help me. One of the things I was excited about was the new moveable cannon. Unfortunately, when I take one in battle it only comes with 2 crewman, so it can't fire because there are 'not enough crewmen'. Also, they can't move. Is this a bug, or am I just being stupid? Thanks for any help http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
(BTW, could you include Horatio Hornblower as a character in the campaign, maybe? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

Cuirassier66

06-02-2003, 20:20

I have done a fair bit of troop stats balancing by now. The Crusaders_Prod_Units11.txt and the Projectiles.txt have been sent to the other Lords with the modified values. They should be available anytime now.

Cavalry and inf stats are very well balanced now. Am working on arty. Next release soon.

-Cuirassier

TenkiSoratoti

06-02-2003, 21:51

I think hornblower is fictional.
You have the mod then come and play online, playing the AI is rather dull as they can beaten very easily. Arrange with a friend or something to play some games. Im always willing after 7:00pm english time.

TenkiSoratoti

06-02-2003, 23:15

Yes and get more people and the learn the way of the bayonet and muzzle

Demon of Light

06-03-2003, 08:35

If you guys are trying to make a campaign out of this in VI, then there is a bug you might want to consider. Currently, every king in both the Viking campaigns and the regular campiagn in version 2.0 dies at the age of 56. It seems to me that such a bug would likely shorten the time a person could play a campaign if it is not fixed. CA is not planning on fixing this for a good long while so it may be incumbent on you if the campaign idea is to succeed.

Coldstream

06-03-2003, 11:08

Not too sure about Old Nosey being such a statesman. If I remember, he was a bit of a duffer at school and so forth and his family was highly dissapointed in his academia. He had really no other choice than the military since affairs of state didn't suit him. I would say a maximum of 3 Accumen for good old Wellers.

On the other hand, Napoleon ought to have a full 9 stars in his Accumen and no other ruler should come close to that.

Just my two cents.

LeBob

06-03-2003, 13:13

Hi Guys,

The napoleontotalwar.tripod.com site is unaccessible to me for some unknown reasons to make changes...bordel de merde

SOrry about that...

Here are some buidings that will be added to the tech tree (unless ojections)
- Sugar Beet factory
- Administration (will replace castle)
- Light and heavy Cavalry training center
- College of Art (improve happiness people)
- college of Science (improve Weapon)
- School of Officer (improve discipline and moral)
- College of medicine (improve moral)
- Bank
- Recognition/Merit Office (recognize elite soldiers)
- Improve infrastructure
- Scientific expedition
- and many of the original buildings

If you wish to have a building included it is time now.

Lord Of Storms

06-03-2003, 13:48

Quote[/b] (Coldstream @ June 03 2003,05:08)]Not too sure about Old Nosey being such a statesman. If I remember, he was a bit of a duffer at school and so forth and his family was highly dissapointed in his academia. He had really no other choice than the military since affairs of state didn't suit him. I would say a maximum of 3 Accumen for good old Wellers.

On the other hand, Napoleon ought to have a full 9 stars in his Accumen and no other ruler should come close to that.

Just my two cents.
Coldstream thanks for the input , these pics were just to give folks an idea of what we are doing, the final stats will be adjusted accordingly before the Campaign is released. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Axelthorpe

06-03-2003, 22:26

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 02 2003,16:51)]I think hornblower is fictional.
You have the mod then come and play online, playing the AI is rather dull as they can beaten very easily. Arrange with a friend or something to play some games. Im always willing after 7:00pm english time.
Isn't Hornblower somewhat based on Horatio Nelson? Not the story but the caracter?

I got that feeling watching the movie (and series).

Coldstream

06-04-2003, 11:37

Quote[/b] (Lord Of Storms @ June 03 2003,07:48)]Coldstream thanks for the input , these pics were just to give folks an idea of what we are doing, the final stats will be adjusted accordingly before the Campaign is released. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Just hoping to help my Lord(s) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

If you ever need to pick my brain or so on and so forth, feel free to ICQ or AIM me. I'm always up for a chat about the little Corsican, and I've got a rather good number of books on the topic. If you ever need something like a historical event, I love to do little side-projects for big mods. Afterall, it's the little things that really add that buff-shine look to an excellent product.

Lord Of Storms

06-04-2003, 13:50

Quote[/b] (Coldstream @ June 04 2003,05:37)]
Quote[/b] (Lord Of Storms @ June 03 2003,07:48)]Coldstream thanks for the input , these pics were just to give folks an idea of what we are doing, the final stats will be adjusted accordingly before the Campaign is released. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Just hoping to help my Lord(s) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

If you ever need to pick my brain or so on and so forth, feel free to ICQ or AIM me. I'm always up for a chat about the little Corsican, and I've got a rather good number of books on the topic. If you ever need something like a historical event, I love to do little side-projects for big mods. Afterall, it's the little things that really add that buff-shine look to an excellent product.
Duly noted and appreciated we can always use an extra brain around here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lord Black Adder

06-04-2003, 21:12

Hello

I am so bussy that rearly got time to read or write posts.
Recently i worked on cannons.I added more movement to shoot frame and added horse art. soldiers on horses.There is going to be more types of cannon in future.British Howitzer beta is done and LK is working on explosive granades.We are resorting our units and i am refurbishing units too at a moment. Thanks LORD BLACK ADDER

TenkiSoratoti

06-04-2003, 21:29

Nice black adder http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif, me and Uxbridge have been longing for the howitzers.

Lord Black Adder

06-04-2003, 22:00

Ye I know he told me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

LBA

Coldstream

06-05-2003, 12:41

Prepare to recieve cavalry

Is there going to be any "Rank Bonus" or something to represent troops going into square formation to fend off those bloody great Frogs on horseback, or are our poor chaps on foot going to be just buggered when the Cavalry is roaming?

TenkiSoratoti

06-05-2003, 16:50

As a matter of fact who did actually have the best and finest cavalry?

Oh by the way i have ADSL now, any of you guys want a massive huge unit 4v4 id be happy to host.

Spino

06-05-2003, 21:30

Quote[/b] ]As a matter of fact who did actually have the best and finest cavalry?

Of the major European powers (Austria, France, Gr. Britain, Prussia & Russia) one could make a very strong argument for Austria. Beyond this I believe the best European cavalry of the period came from the smaller Germanic states. Aside from the loss of prestige, political influence and manpower the defection of Saxony and other Germanic states from the side of France to the Allies in 1813-1814 also deprived Napoleon of the best sources of quality horses and horsemen.

Cuirassier66

06-05-2003, 22:45

Guys, hello

I have started a new thread named " Help needed for Napoleonic Mod from CA programmers" on the Dungeon page.

Your comments please.

Regards,
Cuirassier

TenkiSoratoti

06-05-2003, 23:20

Quote[/b] (Spino @ June 05 2003,15:30)]
Quote[/b] ][bOf the major European powers (Austria, France, Gr. Britain, Prussia & Russia) one could make a very strong argument for Austria. Beyond this I believe the best European cavalry of the period came from the smaller Germanic states. Aside from the loss of prestige, political influence and manpower the defection of Saxony and other Germanic states from the side of France to the Allies in 1813-1814 also deprived Napoleon of the best sources of quality horses and horsemen.[/b]
Ahhh i thought it was the french for the most part of the war then the british.

Coldstream

06-05-2003, 23:27

Well, one could say the finest cavalry belonged to France, but it came from Germany. Napoleon just punched it from them.

Brother Derfel

06-06-2003, 00:20

Just a point about Welly being a poor administraitor.

I tend to dissagree. Yes, he did seem to have a poor grasp of subjects at school, but what do Lattin and Greek realy have to do with running a country?
Wellington was a master of organising his supplies, in fact he had to be so good that his army never needed to pillage from the local population.
Wellington also had experieince of governing in India, his Brother was Governer over there, and together they effectively ran the country.
I think 3 Acumen is a little underestimating his skills. 5 or even more is around about my opinion.

Oh, and great news about the progress for the mod. I can't wait. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Spino

06-06-2003, 03:56

Quote[/b] ]Ahhh i thought it was the french for the most part of the war then the british.

I was commenting in terms of the quality of the horses and the overall training and discipline of the riders. If we're talking purely about leadership then I would say France's cavalry was the best.

Coldstream

06-06-2003, 04:07

Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ June 05 2003,18:20)]Just a point about Welly being a poor administraitor.

I tend to dissagree. Yes, he did seem to have a poor grasp of subjects at school, but what do Lattin and Greek realy have to do with running a country?
Wellington was a master of organising his supplies, in fact he had to be so good that his army never needed to pillage from the local population.
Wellington also had experieince of governing in India, his Brother was Governer over there, and together they effectively ran the country.
I think 3 Acumen is a little underestimating his skills. 5 or even more is around about my opinion.

Oh, and great news about the progress for the mod. I can't wait. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Not too sure. Wouldn't something as that fall more under Command than Accumen? No big deal anyway, it can be worked out later.

TenkiSoratoti

06-06-2003, 09:30

Ah well Brits never lost a major battle so they must have been doing somthing right in the war.

Coldstream

06-06-2003, 12:32

Actually I don't give heads or tails if you give Wellers 200 accumen and shove a lit piece of paper up his bum for kicks, I'm just throwing out ideas. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

It's your mod, you do what you want. I honestly won't uninstall your mod simply because Field Marshal Ney has an incorrect loyalty rating and French farm production is a tad bit off.

However, I will say that it's great that you do infact listen to what people have to say. Definately not an Autocrat -1 Dread. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Lord Of Storms

06-06-2003, 13:18

Quote[/b] (Coldstream @ June 06 2003,06:32)]Actually I don't give heads or tails if you give Wellers 200 accumen and shove a lit piece of paper up his bum for kicks, I'm just throwing out ideas. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wacko.gif

It's your mod, you do what you want. I honestly won't uninstall your mod simply because Field Marshal Ney has an incorrect loyalty rating and French farm production is a tad bit off.

However, I will say that it's great that you do infact listen to what people have to say. Definately not an Autocrat -1 Dread. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Relax Coldstream http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Remember I stated these screenshots are merely an example of what we are doing with the mod as far as final stats that still remains to be decided and all the feedback here will be taken into account, Like Lord Krazy mentioned a few posts back http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I will even go as far as to let all know how to change these stats to suit your own tastes it is very simple http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif Also I tried to AIM you but you were not available I have 2 side projects in mind you might be able to help us with contact me when you can thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif LOS

TenkiSoratoti

06-06-2003, 15:41

Well me and Uxbridge are porbably a pair of second rate gimps because we love playing the mod even at this early stage in development Ill play this Mod whatever

Cuirassier66

06-06-2003, 18:53

I have posted this as a separate thread. No replies as yet. In desperation, I am posting the questions here. Hope someone from CA takes a look at this:
***********************************************************
I am starting this separate thread as the original Napoleonic thread has become too long and it is possible for the signals to get buried in the noise.

This is a humble request for help from the CA programmers and designers to make the Napoleonic Mod for MTW as realistic as possible.

My background in the Napoleonics Wargaming goes back to the TalonSoft hex based games. I have played Waterloo:Napoleon's Last Battle from BreakAway Games as well. All the while the longing was there for a true 3D Napoleonic game that takes into account terrain features, has decent sprites, has weather properly modelled etc etc. It was a recurring wet dream for me to imagine how it would look if somebody does a Napoleonic game on the Shogun engine.

Then came MTW with the thundering cannons and fusil-wielding musketeers. I found myself ever so close to the dream of 3D Napoleonic nirvana. The start of effort by Lord Krazy and the other good lords to do a Napoleonic Mod was the final spark. I threw myself into the fray to contribute my little iota of modding goodness.

When I look at the MTW engine for use in a Nap mode, I almost cry; it is almost there but not quite You know that feeling when a beautifully crafted tool would almost fit your needs but not quite The story is the same with the MTW engine. We need a few changes before we could faithfully simulate Napoleonics using this jewel.

To begin with, cannons were not movable. The good Lord Krazy fixed that. We now have horse guns that gallop along with charging cavaliers This is a good example of playing around with the graphics and the unit data files to get a new unit. There is other stuff that would require something more drastic. So enough of the rambling and let me come to the point.

We, the modders that are working on the Napoleonic mod for MTW would like to get some help from the CA programmers and producers on the following topics. It is understood that not all of the requests could be honoured but hey I still believe in Santa Claus We also understand that the schedules for the programmers are extremely tight but we believe that the Napoleonic mod would only give the MTW longer legs.

To aid clear communication, I have numbered the wish list items below. I have also classified them into two categories, easy and challenging. Without further ado here it comes:

1* (Easy) In the tactical battle screen does the AI have an unfair advantage if I set the difficulty level at EXPERT? When tuning the troop stats I always set the difficulty level to EXPERT in my custom designed battles (for example to test the melee results between heavy and light cavalry). I have a feeling that the AI has an unfair advantage at the EXPERT setting. Is this true?

2*(Easy) Column #45, Unit Specialties Labels in the Crusaders_Unit_Prod11.txt has the following strings and enumerated values for some of the units :"DEFENDING_RIVER(1), DEFENDING_CASTLE(1)". Are there any other strings that the AI would recognize? For example "DEFENDING_FOREST(4), DEFENDING_BUILDING(3)". I am trying to make light infantry deadly in the woods, forests and other broken terrain. I have not found a way to fix this. This might help.

3*(Easy) Lancers and heavy cavalry had an advantage when attacking infantry. Lancers had a longer reach and the heavies could just break through by sheer weight. There is a column that says Cav_Attack_Bonus. But none for Infantry_Attack_Bonus. How do I give an infantry attack bonus to an unit?

3*(Challenging) How to make infantry form square when being charged by cavalry? The square formation should be nearly impervious to a cavalry charge but should be vulnerable to volley fire from deployed infantry and should be very vulnerable to artillery. I have played quite a few battles with the Napoleonic mod on the MTW. The inf vs cav interaction is just not right When charged by cavalry, infantry almost always runs away. Rather it should form squares and weather the charge.
Could we change the animation for one of the formations, say the wedge, and change it into a square formation? The wedge is not a Napoleonic formation anyway. Is it possible to change the animation for the W command from a wedge to a hollow square and give anti-cavalry bonus to the unit only when the unit is in this formation? If we could it would be perfect.

Enough for now. More coming later. Thanks for a wonderful game.

-Cuirassier http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

Coldstream

06-06-2003, 23:46

Quote[/b] (Lord Of Storms @ June 06 2003,07:18)]Relax Coldstream http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Remember I stated these screenshots are merely an example of what we are doing with the mod as far as final stats that still remains to be decided and all the feedback here will be taken into account, Like Lord Krazy mentioned a few posts back http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I will even go as far as to let all know how to change these stats to suit your own tastes it is very simple http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif Also I tried to AIM you but you were not available I have 2 side projects in mind you might be able to help us with contact me when you can thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif LOS
Hmm...Perhaps I came off a bit differently than I was intending to. That's what I get for posting after work. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I didn't intend to seem fierce at all, just...Dunno, but I wasn't being mean http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If I'm ever away on AIM, IM me anyway. Sometimes I leave my message on to avoid certain persons.

Lord Of Storms

06-07-2003, 22:58

The Napoleonic Unit Beta V1.7 is now available for download on the Org's download page, along with a Battle sound pack for same. Thanks TosaInu http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

TenkiSoratoti

06-07-2003, 23:41

1.8 or just 1.7?

Lord Of Storms

06-08-2003, 03:59

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 07 2003,17:41)]1.8 or just 1.7?
Just 1.7 for now prior to 6/3 it was only available on the Lords site and the Mirror site. Patience I am sure 1.8 will be released soon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

TenkiSoratoti

06-08-2003, 21:49

Well after some guidance form Gil im steadilly working on how to muck about with stats effectively. So maybe i can help more effectively later on

LordMonarch

06-08-2003, 23:03

Wellington bought himself his commision. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Coldstream

06-09-2003, 09:20

And?

TenkiSoratoti

06-09-2003, 09:40

He also turned out a bloody good general mate. Who cares, you know what they say 'if you have the money SPEND IT'. Hes the lad that beat the french what more could you ask
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

TenkiSoratoti

Brother Derfel

06-09-2003, 16:40

Um, all oficers in the British army bought their commisions. Only a very, very small number were promoted from the ranks. It was the way the British army was run. Most of the soldiers would only trust an officer who had 'true breeding'.

The French on the other hand promoted frequently from the ranks and several of Napoleons Marshalls were originaly Privates. Napoleon wanted quality, not men with money.

TenkiSoratoti

06-09-2003, 17:17

Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ June 09 2003,10:40)]Um, all oficers in the British army bought their commisions. Only a very, very small number were promoted from the ranks. It was the way the British army was run. Most of the soldiers would only trust an officer who had 'true breeding'.

The French on the other hand promoted frequently from the ranks and several of Napoleons Marshalls were originaly Privates. Napoleon wanted quality, not men with money.
Hence "lions lead by donkeys", and the war may have arguably been over sooner.

Well put Derfel.

Cuirassier66

06-09-2003, 17:17

Guys, help me out on this one. Any thoughts on the following problems?

1* (Easy) In the tactical battle screen does the AI have an unfair advantage if I set the difficulty level at EXPERT? When tuning the troop stats I always set the difficulty level to EXPERT in my custom designed battles (for example to test the melee results between heavy and light cavalry). I have a feeling that the AI has an unfair advantage at the EXPERT setting. Is this true?

2*(Easy) Column #45, Unit Specialties Labels in the Crusaders_Unit_Prod11.txt has the following strings and enumerated values for some of the units :"DEFENDING_RIVER(1), DEFENDING_CASTLE(1)". Are there any other strings that the AI would recognize? For example "DEFENDING_FOREST(4), DEFENDING_BUILDING(3)". I am trying to make light infantry deadly in the woods, forests and other broken terrain. I have not found a way to fix this. This might help.

3*(Easy) Lancers and heavy cavalry had an advantage when attacking infantry. Lancers had a longer reach and the heavies could just break through by sheer weight. There is a column that says Cav_Attack_Bonus. But none for Infantry_Attack_Bonus. How do I give an infantry attack bonus to an unit?

3*(Challenging) How to make infantry form square when being charged by cavalry? The square formation should be nearly impervious to a cavalry charge but should be vulnerable to volley fire from deployed infantry and should be very vulnerable to artillery. I have played quite a few battles with the Napoleonic mod on the MTW. The inf vs cav interaction is just not right When charged by cavalry, infantry almost always runs away. Rather it should form squares and weather the charge.
Could we change the animation for one of the formations, say the wedge, and change it into a square formation? The wedge is not a Napoleonic formation anyway. Is it possible to change the animation for the W command from a wedge to a hollow square and give anti-cavalry bonus to the unit only when the unit is in this formation? If we could it would be perfect.

-Cuirassier

Brother Derfel

06-09-2003, 17:30

I can help you with the first concern.

I am prety positive that on Expert seting the AI gets a moral bonus of +2or3 (not certain on which). I would suggest that you test units on Normal or Hard, as on easy your troops gain the moral bonus.

Cuirassier66

06-09-2003, 17:40

Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ June 09 2003,11:30)]I can help you with the first concern.

I am prety positive that on Expert seting the AI gets a moral bonus of +2or3 (not certain on which). I would suggest that you test units on Normal or Hard, as on easy your troops gain the moral bonus.
I thought as much. Thanks o good brother. Now if only I could find out how make the AI form squares

Brother Derfel

06-09-2003, 17:44

Quote[/b] (Cuirassier66 @ June 09 2003,11:40)]
Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ June 09 2003,11:30)]I can help you with the first concern.

I am prety positive that on Expert seting the AI gets a moral bonus of +2or3 (not certain on which). I would suggest that you test units on Normal or Hard, as on easy your troops gain the moral bonus.
I thought as much. Thanks o good brother. Now if only I could find out how make the AI form squares
I am no modder, but I am sure that i read somewhere that formations were hard coded and couldn't be changed http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

I believe someone was working along the lines of giving Infantry high bonuses for being in deep rancks, but this is just not the same as having a square that is safe on all sides from every cavalry charge. (Althought there were one or two examples of cavalry breaking squares, but not enough to make an exception.)

Cuirassier66

06-09-2003, 17:47

I am the (official) stats adjuster for the Lords group. Indeed I have given the infantry some additional bonus for using deep ranks. This in a crude way simulates the square. But not quite.

Have you played Waterloo: Napoleon's Last Battle?

Brother Derfel

06-09-2003, 17:54

No, I havn't tried it. Do you recomend it?

The only Napoleonic Computer games i posses are the BattleGround series Napoleon in Russia, and another game that i can't quite remember as it is boxed away somwhere, it was based on the 1813-14 campaign I think.

TenkiSoratoti

06-09-2003, 18:31

Napoleons last battle is a bit of a flawed game but playable none the less, its where the sounds for the sound pack are got from http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Fields of glory is an all time classic if you want some poor sprites but good gameplay.
Cuirrassier after playing alot of battles with uxbridge, deep formation works just as effectively as a square i think. Cavalry cant smash through it due to there being too many troops. The infantry in deep are always losing badly but the numbers they have easily send cavs of any kind running home to mummy.

TenkiSoratoti

Cuirassier66

06-11-2003, 16:21

Giving the attribute "STRONG" in the unit class labels for infantry units seems to make them stand fast and receive cavalry with closed ranks.

I am experimenting this further. Hopefully I would be able to push the tweaks into the 1.8 version of the mod.

-Cuirassier

Stormer

06-13-2003, 07:19

anyone heard of the new Cossacks 2 napolionic wars looks very nice.

new screenshots of it here.
http://www.tothegame.com/screenshot.asp?screens=10807

LordUxbridge

06-13-2003, 11:13

Hmmmm Looks nice However, playing the first Cossacks games leads me to believe that this will still be missing something.....i cant quite put my finger on it, but definitely something....nonetheless it looks pretty cool, any release date??

TenkiSoratoti

06-13-2003, 18:17

Well if full authentic, military tactics cannot be implemented, then i'll be dissapointed with Cossacks 2. However, it is Napoleonic and is something I like quite alot, so I will buy it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

dclare4

06-14-2003, 04:03

Cossacks was perhaps the worst thing to ever happen to gamers of the Age of Wallenstein to Frederick (ie. between the Middle Ages w/c is very well depicted in games and the Napoleonic wars which are also pretty well depicted. Excepting, of course, the American Revolution.)

I suppose it's ignored because it is better known for the splendor of its uniforms rather than solid tactics, but there were many great battles, many 'famous victories' during this period.

The game has many good points w/c I hope are picked up by other companies like, oh lets say, Creative Assembly. I like the idea that a company must be formed from a CO (in reality this would be a Captain, an Ensign and a couple of NCOs) w/c 'take posts' like they would in reality. I was an ROTC company commander and that brings back very fond memories. The troop types are more than complete as are the technologies. There is one major flaw though... The game is an RTS. Which often than not means mindless AI assaults en masse with precious little maneuver. Its all fireworks and blood, no solid 'strategy' no place for the armchair Marlborough or Frederick to really get a taste of Blenheim or Mollwitz. For pitys sake there are no morale rules. More men died of disease than of bullets in war and realistically troops should not take the horrible casualties that they do in Cossacks. They're not soldiers, they're robots in uniform.

Now, if it had been a Total War or Napoleon's Last Battle type of game, with those techs and units then that would have been perfect. As it is you got all this history, beautiful graphics, troop types and techs dressed up with no where to go.

Efrem Da King

06-14-2003, 06:30

Cossacks 2 will be so good

I loved cossacks and this is cossacks with moral fatigue and some other stuff set in the NAPOLEONIC WARS

TenkiSoratoti

06-14-2003, 18:10

The british army has the finest marchers on the planet.... bar the Chinese, but they beat their troops into submission.
Hmmm, well chaps the new date for the Nap mod will be pursponed i expect till NEXT WEEK.

Lord Krazy

06-15-2003, 23:26

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 14 2003,18:10)]Hmmm, well chaps the new date for the Nap mod will be pursponed i expect till NEXT WEEK.
Tenk,

As far as I know , it should be up in a few days.

I'v been away all week again , so hence the delay.

It needs to be tested a few more times ,
apart from that the work is done , for the
next MP unit update.

btw thanks for all the support
and promotion efforts. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Brother Derfel

06-15-2003, 23:30

Quote[/b] (Lord Krazy @ June 15 2003,17:26)]
Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 14 2003,18:10)]Hmmm, well chaps the new date for the Nap mod will be pursponed i expect till NEXT WEEK.
Tenk,

As far as I know , it should be up in a few days.

I'v been away all week again , so hence the delay.

It needs to be tested a few more times ,
apart from that the work is done , for the
next MP unit update.

btw thanks for all the support
and promotion efforts. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
You, and all the Lords, are GODS LK.

You hear me, you are GODS

Role on the next Mp unit release. (P.S is this for VI or MTW, cos i lent my MTW to a freind and can;t play nap mod with VI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif )

Cheers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Lord Krazy

06-15-2003, 23:42

Quote[/b] ]Role on the next Mp unit release. (P.S is this for VI or MTW, cos i lent my MTW to a freind and can;t play nap mod with VI )

The next update will for both MTW v1.1 and VI . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I'm not sure if both will ready at the same time
but both versions will be covered.

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

LordUxbridge

06-17-2003, 20:18

mmmmmm....new units......mmmmmmm *DROOLS*

TenkiSoratoti

06-17-2003, 23:53

Actually managed to register I see..... Uxbridge.
No rush for units, Rome is far away.

LordUxbridge

06-18-2003, 00:14

Yes, i managed to get my account validated after an age of trying....Rome is far away, and besides it doesnt really peak my interest so much, hence my drooling in anticipation......

Stormer

06-18-2003, 17:09

Quote[/b] ]Yes, i managed to get my account validated after an age of trying....Rome is far away, and besides it doesnt really peak my interest so much, hence my drooling in anticipation......

whats wrong with you man

*Slaps Uxbridge silly*

Lord Of Storms

06-21-2003, 17:52

Just a quick update for those awaiting the full campaign.
The work continues we are all busy adding bits to the script.You all have been very patient and most helpful with your suggestions and feedback,We are all working very hard to make this mod have a total Napoleonic look and feel to it, so that involves alot of changes in many areas some of them quite tedious. But be assured your patience will pay off in what we hope will be a good all around Napoleonic Campaign for all to enjoy. Thanks to all LOS

Brother Derfel

06-22-2003, 14:30

Quote[/b] (Lord Of Storms @ June 21 2003,11:52)]Just a quick update for those awaiting the full campaign.
The work continues we are all busy adding bits to the script.You all have been very patient and most helpful with your suggestions and feedback,We are all working very hard to make this mod have a total Napoleonic look and feel to it, so that involves alot of changes in many areas some of them quite tedious. But be assured your patience will pay off in what we hope will be a good all around Napoleonic Campaign for all to enjoy. Thanks to all LOS
Just glad to hear that you are still at it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

_Martyr_

06-22-2003, 22:09

Yep, its a great mod so far http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Im almost looking forward to this as much as I am our own LOTR mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

Great work guys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord Krazy

06-22-2003, 23:46

Brother Derfel Of course we are. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

_Martyr_
Go raimh maith agut. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

You guys are doing a fine job on the
LOTR mod .
Keep it up.

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord Krazy

06-23-2003, 00:49

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 23 2003,00:37)]Krazy, a fix? What fix. Is ths fix included on the Lords site in version 1.8?

TS
No it's in 1.8_Fix.zip

It's just some changes to the prod11

I'v posted them seperately so people don't think they have the same file. As the mirror get's updated from
a different outlet. Just get the fix off thelordz
and the rest off the mirror site please.

Thanks

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

06-23-2003, 11:53

I installed it LK but noticed nothing differant whats new http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Or is it an insurance scam http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif

Brother Derfel

06-23-2003, 16:42

Lk, will this version work for VI?

Just need to know before I download it, as my CD for MTW is still being lent to a friend.

Cheers. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

TenkiSoratoti

06-23-2003, 19:49

Hmmmm, not exactly Storm. None of us have played enough to get to know everything thoroughly.

TS/RFG|S

Lord Black Adder

06-23-2003, 21:43

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif Hello friends

Giving myself 2 weeks prior to my holiday to finish adding
all units necessary into bif's Austerlic and Waterloo gona be working on generic principal. We are sqizing nicly 2 Inf units on 1 bif and 6 Cav units on 1 bif too, Reason due to size of download. Back to work now http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord Krazy

06-23-2003, 22:29

Quote[/b] ]Lk, will this version work for VI?

No I just finished that now.
I'll post it as soon as I test it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Quote[/b] ]I installed it LK but noticed nothing differant whats new

apart from the Ten New Units the Howitzer and Twleve
Pounder and a couple of tweeks , nothing new really.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Quote[/b] ]Or is it an insurance scam

Let's face it who would insure me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Quote[/b] ]I think Stormer, that the fix has been implemented deep within the stats .txt file, hence there being a stats file in the zip folder. You will only probably notice it when you come to play the game more thoroughly, me thinks.

If that's what your talking about
well I changed some graphic errors in the prod11.
Yes graphic errors in the prod11.
The scale was wrong on one unit
and the wrong bif was tagged for another.

The idea was that you would install it before
you noticed. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord Krazy

06-23-2003, 22:31

Btw the thread has a lot of non relevent posts.
They will be removed soon .
I'm not complaining I'm just telling you how it is. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

dlundie

06-24-2003, 03:51

very nice job i must say, however i am unsure of how to install the fix. Can you give an idiots version on installing it. Just in case i got it wrong. Thanks and good work.

hal269091

06-24-2003, 14:23

Hello Guys,

I'm back from vacation - spent two nice weeks of diving in Croatia and can't wait to go on with some new portraits. I'll try to have one more package ready for the weekend.

BTW - did you notice about the custom avatars (sticky on top of the dungeon post list)? Tried it already and looks quite nice.

greetings

Hal

TenkiSoratoti

06-24-2003, 17:50

Well Krazy i didnt notice them.... So there we are. Although Stormer and I had problems with the fix. Probably his fault ( http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif ), but we get the same old network mismatch. You might wanna run a few tests to prove me wrong and at the same time play me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

TS/RFG|S

Lord Krazy

06-24-2003, 18:35

Quote[/b] ]very nice job i must say, however i am unsure of how to install the fix. Can you give an idiots version on installing it. Just in case i got it wrong. Thanks and good work.

The fix is just a
prod11.txt and projectile stats .txt

put the files in the root directory of the MTW folder
that has the 1.8 version of the nap mod in it.

Quote[/b] ]Although Stormer and I had problems with the fix. Probably his fault ( ), but we get the same old network mismatch.

If you both have downloaded and installed the fix
Then I can't understand how that could happen http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Quote[/b] ]You might wanna run a few tests to prove me wrong and at the same time play me

I will in a couple of weeks but I'm busy
getting the new bifs togeather with LBA
at the moment , in between pretending to edit the
prod11.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Hi Hal http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif
now back to work.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Cuirassier66

06-24-2003, 19:33

LK, hei

Leave the PROD11 to me. I am fixing it. I am sure that you have enough on your plate.

BTW, to do the uber Waterloo campaign, we still need the following units:

*French Empress' Own Dragoons (Imperial Guard Heavy Cav regiment, always brigaded with the Horse Grenadiers)

*French Lanciers de la Garde (the famous Imperial Guard Red Lancers regiment, always brigaded with the Chasseurs a Cheval de la Garde)

*French Line Lancers

*French Gendarmes d' Elite ( French Mounted Military Police, Guard status, very similar in shape, size, uniform and experience to the Horse Grenadiers, more than capable of charging boot to boot with the heavies in a pinch)

*Dutch-Belgian line infantry

*Dutch-Belgian light infantry

*Nassau line infantry

I will go through my Waterloo OOB to check if I left out some units.

Regards,
Cuirassier http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Lord Of Storms

06-24-2003, 20:10

A new development in the Nap Mod. I have been able to add the Formation "Square" to the AI's formations file, and by increasing the priority quotient the AI is choosing it exclusively for defensive formation. I am in the process of tweaking some of the settings to change the units that comprise the Square. Thanks to GilJaySmith who graciously provided CA's formation Data without which this would not have been possible. Some problems still need to be addressed, in the face of a Cav charge the AI will break ranks so the Square seems useless? I was able to add the command HoldTheLine which only helps the AI to reform into square after the initial charge not literally Hold The Line so it is a mixed blessing ,the AI will now have Square in its defensive repetoir but some things still need to be ironed out. LOS

Brother Derfel

06-24-2003, 21:45

Quote[/b] (Lord Of Storms @ June 24 2003,14:10)]A new development in the Nap Mod. I have been able to add the Formation "Square" to the AI's formations file, and by increasing the priority quotient the AI is choosing it exclusively for defensive formation. I am in the process of tweaking some of the settings to change the units that comprise the Square. Thanks to GilJaySmith who graciously provided CA's formation Data without which this would not have been possible. Some problems still need to be addressed, in the face of a Cav charge the AI will break ranks so the Square seems useless? I was able to add the command HoldTheLine which only helps the AI to reform into square after the initial charge not literally Hold The Line so it is a mixed blessing ,the AI will now have Square in its defensive repetoir but some things still need to be ironed out. LOS
This is very good news.

I was despairing that Square formation would be a complete impossibility

Well done LOS for making this big step in the right direction http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Brother Derfel

06-24-2003, 21:51

Quote[/b] (Cuirassier66 @ June 24 2003,13:33)]LK, hei

Leave the PROD11 to me. I am fixing it. I am sure that you have enough on your plate.

BTW, to do the uber Waterloo campaign, we still need the following units:

*French Empress' Own Dragoons (Imperial Guard Heavy Cav regiment, always brigaded with the Horse Grenadiers)

*French Lanciers de la Garde (the famous Imperial Guard Red Lancers regiment, always brigaded with the Chasseurs a Cheval de la Garde)

*French Line Lancers

*French Gendarmes d' Elite ( French Mounted Military Police, Guard status, very similar in shape, size, uniform and experience to the Horse Grenadiers, more than capable of charging boot to boot with the heavies in a pinch)

*Dutch-Belgian line infantry

*Dutch-Belgian light infantry

*Nassau line infantry

I will go through my Waterloo OOB to check if I left out some units.

Regards,
Cuirassier http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I am not sure if the Brunswikers are available in 1.8 cos i don't have it yet, but if they are not then they will be essential for the Waterloo campaign.

To represent this brigade at the very least these units would be needed (off the top of my head):

Avante Guard
Deaths Head Hussars
Lancers
Line Infantry
Light Infantry

Also are French Carabiniers available yet, as they would be needed?

Marines of the Imperial Guard?

Polish lancers?

TenkiSoratoti

06-24-2003, 21:55

There is a Brunswick cavalry troop in 1.8.

Stormer

06-24-2003, 22:01

yea we need some more britih foot troops.

Brother Derfel

06-24-2003, 22:11

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ June 24 2003,16:01)]yea we need some more britih foot troops.
Well, not actual British foot troops, as the current units are quite sufficient for that (perhaps a light infantry unit if 1.8 does not already offer that).

What would be usefuel to add would be allied Infantry units, such as Spanish and portugese in British service.

Also if the KGL have not yet been done, they should at the very least recieve a rifle armed light unit.

I suppose a unit of Foot guards would be nice as well.

Lord Of Storms

06-24-2003, 22:29

Not happy with the Square alone I have now added the Defensive formation "The Block" to the AI's repetoir of Defensive formations, I was not pleased with the rudimentary square formed by the AI it is more a 3 sided Rectangle, dont get me wrong I am happy that the AI can now use the Square I just want to add as much dimension to the Battle as possible ."The Block" is just that a solid square with the Royal unit protected in the background. In 1 of my test battles the AI formed up in the Block I sent 4 Cav units over the hill to engage on 3 sides to see what the AI would do, after the initial engagement I withdrew my Cav to lure the AI over the hill to my waiting Infantry, When the AI saw my infantry it immediatley went back to its defensive Block formation embedding the Royal unit to the rear. The gun battle ensued we exchanged fire until slowly each unit got whittled down to nothing, but lo and behold the Royal unit was protected to the last and still intact. So I think this formation although not conventinal might serve some purpose in our campaign. The tweaking continues.

TenkiSoratoti

06-25-2003, 07:33

Ive tested it, doesnt look very professional lol, but it does the job. Well done (I think).

TS/RFG|S

dclare4

06-25-2003, 09:03

Suggestion chaps and something I was thinking of implementing in Jacobite TW. Convert the Camels into gray horses, and convert the Camel riders or whatever elite camel unit there is (dont play Egyptian very often&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif into the Scots Greys. The look will be right but the horses will be 'fiercer'

Just a thought,
Lord de Clare

Lord Of Storms

06-25-2003, 18:41

Click on the Link to see 3 screnshots of the New Formations Square and Block. I apologize for the pic quality, but look to the left hand corner mini map to get the idea of how the AI formed up. Thanks LOS Link For Screenshots (http://www.geocities.com/storm27k/night_vision.html)

TenkiSoratoti

06-26-2003, 01:01

The middle picture is what the AI did with me. But the units individually came out and tried to attack my horses http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif And they died horribly.

TS

LordUxbridge

06-26-2003, 09:17

Come on lads, try and keep it relevant....Lords, as far as the unit descriptions go, which ones are still undone? Since ive done the Intro and chronology, i may turn my hand to a few of those. Let me know which ones are still available to do. I would have sent this by email, but its playing up (again).

I remain, my Lords, your humble servant

Lord Uxbridge

Stormer

06-26-2003, 11:55

Unit descriptions for each units would be great.

Lord Of Storms

06-26-2003, 15:06

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 25 2003,19:01)]The middle picture is what the AI did with me. But the units individually came out and tried to attack my horses http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif And they died horribly.

TS
Sadly the AI has so to speak a mind of its own, By inputting the data for the AI to form square and block does not mean the AI will be invincible it is just meant for variety. Like I stated earlier in the face of a cav charge any formation will break ranks unless told to hold and still even then. The data I used for the formations is just that we can not control evry aspect of the AI reactions, what I have noticed if given time the AI will try to reform the square or block when you withdraw and regroup.By changing the priority quotient you can get more of a variety. LOS

Lord Krazy

06-26-2003, 18:47

Quote[/b] (LordUxbridge @ June 26 2003,09:17)]Lords, as far as the unit descriptions go, which ones are still undone? Since ive done the Intro and chronology, i may turn my hand to a few of those.
All of them need to be done . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I'll put you in touch with the person that
has agreed to do this . You can work togeather
on this . I would like them to be done by more than one
person anyway . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I'll pm you later.

Thanks

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Stormer

06-26-2003, 18:53

LK i was wondering if you could make all units 200 men not 120 max http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif too ge tthe real feel we need 200.

also i see you have made horses have a chance against men now great http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

and the mens fireing is slightly lowerd this is ok i guess.

but men dont shoot aspowerfull now but least they stand longer and battle goes on longer, well unless you get ux bridge charge you in his "coloums" formation which he claims to work, im yet to be stunned http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

anyway good job LK this mod is sooooo good you got me playing MTW again even if it is the mod Thansk so much http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

Brother Derfel

06-26-2003, 19:03

Quote[/b] (Stormer @ June 26 2003,12:53)]LK i was wondering if you could make all units 200 men not 120 max http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif too ge tthe real feel we need 200.
Good idea Stormer. Although perhaps for certain 'elite' units like the Greenjackets this could be lower. If we are taking 200men = a batalion, the Greenjackets should have much less as they tended to operate as companies being assigned individualy to army divisions and brigades.

Brother Derfel

06-26-2003, 19:04

Oh, and Lk, when will the VI cersion be ready?????

I am getting desperate now. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

Stormer

06-26-2003, 19:12

yeah niceone about greenjackets derfel.

200 of them, would be like the whole of hell fighting you.

Brother Derfel

06-27-2003, 20:24

LK, i would also like to help on the unit descriptions. I have plenty of resource material for the Spanish and russians particulary as well as for other armies (apart from ottoman).

TenkiSoratoti

06-28-2003, 08:56

I think Uxbridge is handling that Derfel.

TS

Brother Derfel

06-28-2003, 09:34

Quote[/b] (Tenkisoratoti @ June 28 2003,02:56)]I think Uxbridge is handling that Derfel.

TS
I know that, thats why I said "also".

I have talked to uxbridge about this and he would be glad of the help. And LK said he would like as many people as possible to work on these.

TenkiSoratoti

06-28-2003, 13:36

Quote[/b] (Brother Derfel @ June 28 2003,03:34)]

Quote[/b] ]I know that, thats why I said "also".

Wow http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif Don't stress.

If anyone knows any good Dreamweaver tricks and want to help me finish my Nap mod site, please ask to help. It'll be an addin to either my new upcoming Tenki Site or the RFG site.

TS/RFG|S

LordUxbridge

06-29-2003, 19:19

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Lord De Moray

06-30-2003, 10:42

Just had a real good look at the mod and discussed it's details with some like minded friends. We have all been into Napoleonic war games for some 20 years. The detail so far is great
What causes great concern is the square stiuation, I understand this is to be addressed by using columns. Will this still work if attacked in the rear?
Suggest that Greenjackets be renamed Rifles/riflemen and indeed need to be in smaller units.
Is there still some AI forcing units to fear shot?, this may no longer be required.

Regards,

De Moray

ShadesPanther

06-30-2003, 11:26

I think the fear is still in it. Its probably hardcoded or something.
Great mod. A few bugs here and there especially the non gunpowder units looking strange and it crashes if you left click on a unit in campaign mode http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif But it is only beta http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Lancer6969

06-30-2003, 13:41

Hey LK,

Hey I just wanted to let you know that I am looking forward to your mod, be patient with us thought we are unpatient.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif.

TenkiSoratoti

06-30-2003, 14:23

The Lords and others are working hard to get it all sorted. Manipulating the special formation script has turned out ot be very hard. I have done some preliminary tests with what was made by LOS, and it does sort of go to plan, but it takes a while for the AI to sort itself out.

Thanks for your comments on behalf of the Lords.

TS

Lord De Moray

06-30-2003, 16:34

Should there be any queries about units stats and uniforms, I have a large resource library. Please contact me if stuck on any points what so ever

Pleased to help.

Regards,

De Moray (Marshall MacDonald) LOL http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wave.gif

TenkiSoratoti

06-30-2003, 17:07

Could you stick that in database of somekind? I sure that would be helpful to the unit description people.

TS

LordUxbridge

06-30-2003, 17:13

Thanks De Moray,

Ive been asked by the Lords to co-ordinate the writing up of unit descriptions for the Mod, as well as few other little jobs here and there. Once this gets underway, i will contact you to take up your offer of assistance.

Thanks once again

Lord Uxbridge

Cuirassier66

06-30-2003, 17:23

Quote[/b] (De Moray @ June 30 2003,04:42)]Just had a real good look at the mod and discussed it's details with some like minded friends. We have all been into Napoleonic war games for some 20 years. The detail so far is great
What causes great concern is the square stiuation, I understand this is to be addressed by using columns. Will this still work if attacked in the rear?
Suggest that Greenjackets be renamed Rifles/riflemen and indeed need to be in smaller units.
Is there still some AI forcing units to fear shot?, this may no longer be required.

Regards,

De Moray
I have made some important strides in the infantry vs cavalry combat balancing. Here is the summary:

*I have resigned myself to the fact that infantry battalions can not form square individually.

*I have set NUM_PREFERRED_RANKS for almost all regular infantry to 8 ranks. Only exclusive light infantry units like the Prussian Jegers start with three ranks.

*I have set NUM_SUPPORTING_RANKS bonus to 7 so that all the ranks in an 8 deep column would be able to give support against a cavalry charge.

*What I have modelled is essentially the "Battalion Mass" formation used with a good degree of success by the Austrians at Aspern-Essling and Wagram.

*Battalion mass was very vulnerable to artillery fire. (So is the square formation.)

*Battalion mass had very reduced firepower (So is the square formation.)

*Battalion mass had a good degree of defence against a cavalry charge (Just like the the square formation.)

*The human player has to give the command "Hold Formation (H)" to the battalion mass in case of a cav charge. Otherwise the inf runs away. The AI automatically does it I think if you are threatening the AI inf with your cav.

*Artillery still has problem. One direct hit and the battery is vapourised.

The infantry vs cavalry problem now stands thus:

You are attacking a brigade of infantry perched squarely on the top of a hill, protected by two regiments of cavalry. You have a brigade of inf and two regiments of cav.

If you deploy your inf in 3 ranks line before climbing the hill, you risk a rout when the cav comes charging downhill (d'Erlon, anyone&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

The options are:
*Hold your inf in 8 ranks deep formation to weather the eventual cav charge (and be shot at by the enemy inf in line)

*Neutralise the enemy cav with your own before sending in the inf deployed in line

*Move the inf uphill in battalion mass, let the enemy cav come to you. You could weather the charge as you have 7 supporting ranks bonus. Send your own cav to the flanks. Chase away the marauding enemy horsemen. Then, only then, deploy your infantry in line and attack the enemy inf. With a bit of finesse it could be done.

I made all of the changes mentioned above yesterday. Lord Krazy, shall I send the modified files with the battalion mass formation stats for the infantry?

Best Regards,
Cuirassier

TenkiSoratoti

06-30-2003, 17:26

Send it to all of us, or those on your forwarding list.

Cuirassier66

06-30-2003, 18:32

Lord Krazy

07-01-2003, 03:48

An update from LC66 to the stats has been posted
at thelordz (http://www.thelordz.co.uk)

it's the v1.81

The vi version has been tested and failed.
The problems are known and have been fixed
but it needs to be compiled again.

I'll reply to some of your questions
tomorrow.

Thanks
Regards

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord De Moray

07-01-2003, 16:28

Thanks for all the feed back

The idea of creating a database i'm affraid is out of the question none of it is in data format, all books, but I'll assist with any questions.

One suggestion that I have recived from a buddy was to change the British Infantry to 2 ranks for optimised fire power, but I'm thinking that this was the case anyways with the game. That being so how do you force the other nations to use 3 ranks, or am I just being fickle.

Are units in column benifiting from greater moral than those deployed in line?

What is the suggested scale of the units in the game?

1 unit = 1 coy, 1battalion, regiment, brigade etc....

Does 1 gun represent a battery of 8-12 guns?

The unit size as is suggests companies all be it oversized, once again am I being fickle. The mod has all the feel and action I would expect from a Napoleonic game, setting scale aside. But does the scale thing not hamper the making of historic battles. Alot of the guys have been talking about Waterloo (possibly the most uninteresting battle of the period), theres just no way you could get all of those fantasic units that have be made represented in one game.

Looking forward to a campaign version.

Kind Regards,

De Moray

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Lord Of Storms

07-01-2003, 16:51

Quote[/b] ]*I have resigned myself to the fact that infantry battalions can not form square individually.

Hi all dont not give up on the use of the Square formation for the Nap Mod as of yet, I am still playing with the data in the formation file to make the formations more historically correct.(But at least we have them at our disposal now) But I have been politlely reminded I am cooridinating the Campaign script http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif (Thanks LK) So I have to get my head back in the game. Thanks to Lord Uxbridge whom I have asked for assistance in the provincial titles area and all others who are making varied contribuitons. I will be compiling the files I have edited for the campaign and sending them to LK so he can put them all together to give us a working campaign to test and get the bugs out , so we can release something soon. Thanks for your patience and continued support. LOS

Cuirassier66

07-02-2003, 01:18

Quote[/b] (De Moray @ July 01 2003,10:28)]Are units in column benifiting from greater moral than those deployed in line?

What is the suggested scale of the units in the game?

1 unit = 1 coy, 1battalion, regiment, brigade etc....

Does 1 gun represent a battery of 8-12 guns?
A 60 man infantry unit represents a battalion of 600 muskets (about the average strength of a field battalion at that time.)

A 40 man cavalry unit represents a regiment with 400 sabres on the field.

Attack columns do receive a bonus. If infantry forms up 8 ranks deep, it benefits from the NUM_SUPPORTING_RANKS parameter (which is set to 7)

shand994

07-02-2003, 04:00

To the lords

i have been doing some campmap pieces for the buildings for the new campaign. so far i have replaced the fort with a house, signifying a small town and have replaced the castle with a townhall looking building signifying a larger town with more defenses. will post pics shortly and finish the rest and pass them onto whoever needs them.

just wanted to let you all know what ive been up to. once these are done i will start on the new building bif's.

ps sorry for any spelling mistsakes getting used to typing while nursing a baby is difficult.

Lord Shand

LeBob

07-02-2003, 13:49

Shand,

I tried to send you some stuff but your email was not working.

Concerning the fort and castle, that is great
We will have 5 levels of city so we will need five pieces.
Maybe you can have the following:
level 1: one house
level 2: 3 house
level 3: a townhouse
level 4: a townhouse + 1 house
level 5: a townhouse + 3 houses

concenrning the building bif's, I have seveal bmp's to use but I still have problem with the colors so I would like you to try on some...send me an email and I will reply with the bmp's.

LLB

shand994

07-04-2003, 01:36

LLB

Yeh ive been trying a few different variations. ive done up a few more but unfortunately i managed to screw my pc up and cant run any games at the moment so havent been able to test them. it hopefully will be getting fixed this weekend.
im back at work on monday so if i havent contacted you by then i will email what ive done to you so you can have a look.

Shnad

Lord De Moray

07-04-2003, 09:06

Anyone have any interesting stories on Napoleon's Line Chasseurs a Cheval. Re unit descriptions. Can't seem to find anything special to say about them other than what they were.

Scots is not a word used in Scotland, Scottish is. But suggest changing Scots infantry to Highland. Non Highland units looked in the main like English Line units. My local unit, the Seaforth Highlanders lost the right to wear the kilt after losing honor in combat. But pround to say that the Gordon Highlanders 92nd also came from my area.

Regards,

De Moray

Stormer

07-04-2003, 09:31

How about Scottish highlanders i think thats good.

also what do you mean about

Quote[/b] ]My local unit, the Seaforth Highlanders lost the right to wear the kilt after losing honor in combat.

waht they do surrender ?

Lord De Moray

07-04-2003, 14:10

Something about them withdrawing from a position in India before the Napoleonic wars. On their return they were dishonored and played no part in the Napoleonic wars. Me thinks they ended up on garrison duties in the East Indies.

They were always under dogs there after, as a regiment. Just goes to show what one fearful mistake could do in the British Army.

Any takers on the Chasseurs a Cheval, still stuck http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif

Regards,

De Moray

LordUxbridge

07-04-2003, 15:26

I have to agree with De Moray on this point, but didnt really want to mention it till later. The uniforms of the ScotsLineInf are clearly those of Highlanders (i like to think they are the Black Watch), as De Moray pointed out, Scots Line Inf wore tartan trousers, not kilts. Do they yet have a melee bonus over their line counterparts....? they should do. Apart from that little rant, everything is going well at my end

Regards

Lord Uxbridge

PS De Moray: Dont worry too much about about the chasseurs, a description of what they were and what function they served will suffice. To be honest, i want to try and cut out any references to real battles or persons in these descriptions.

Lord De Moray

07-04-2003, 15:33

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Thanks for that, just thought that a little reference to show just what nutters some of these units are would be nice.

You know I often wonder if Highland infantry were any better at melee. Questionable, perhaps. Still all Highland units in service during the Napoleonic wars did stand very well, so what the hell http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Regards,

De Moray

LordUxbridge

07-04-2003, 15:45

Hmmm, well it could be argued that there was little difference in melee ability between the Highlanders and the Line, although i would be inclined to say thet were more fierce fighters. After all, they were the direct descendents of the earlier Clansmen, a warrior caste, and there can be little doubting that they were all physically big men.....i would be happy to see them have a melee bonus.

Lord Uxbridge

Brother Derfel

07-04-2003, 16:31

I agree with Uxbridge on this one, the Highlanders should definatly get a melle bonus. You try fighting someone in a dress.

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Lord De Moray

07-04-2003, 18:21

So if I worn my dress would you back off from me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Yes I suppose most of em came from local estates in which they were imployed in farming, game keeping etc...

Interesting that few of them were pressed into service unlike the English or Southern Scottish Regiments.

Regards,

De Moray

Brother Derfel

07-04-2003, 18:39

Quote[/b] (De Moray @ July 04 2003,12:21)]So if I worn my dress would you back off from me http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Well, if your male and you wore a dress i wouldn't exactly be rushing into your arms http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Lord De Moray

07-05-2003, 11:23

Can anyone provide me with a map to find the units factors and stats in the mod files, eg.. the difference between French line and light infantry in the game.

Is there more Russian units coming out soon?
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Regards,

De Moray

TenkiSoratoti

07-05-2003, 18:18

A map, i thought the stats etc were quite easy to find. A unit description manual is coming out soon and perhaps with the stats but im not sure as of yet

TS

Lord Krazy

07-06-2003, 00:10

Hello http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If you want a rough version of the VI unit's mod
mail me at TheLords@thelordz.co.uk
and I'll send you a link .
I say rough because it replaces alot of
default files still so a second install is best
unless you know what you are doing or you just don't care. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
All I know is it will work with a clean install
of VI and forget about plating VI as all the
animations have changed.

I mention this as It's been asked a few times
as to why the MTW unit are all wierd when
you install the MOD?
Well it's because I refuse to have
any animation in the mod that is better than our http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

OK seriously http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif it's because the game has limited amount
of unit animations files available , so if we wish to add one we must remove one .

VI allows for ten custom animations files to be added ,
which is great However we have already added
more than double that and people keep asking for more . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif So you'll never be able to play both
on the same install ,well untill it comes
with an installer that restores the default files.
This will happen but not for a while yet.

We have made smaller sprites in an effort to try
get more units in less bifs and we are testing them at the moment .Non the less a limit exists which will need to
be addressed . I still don't know how many it will be in the end and exactly which ones .

You'll be the first to know , well after the team
and my girlfriend and my sister of course . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

regards
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Brother Derfel

07-06-2003, 09:43

Hmmmm, thats a very good point about the limitation on unit numbers LK.

May I make a suggestion.

Do away with the current 'specific' units (e.g HessenHomburg Hussars, Pavlograd Hussars, Marioupal Hussars....) and replace them with just 1 general unit. So instead of having 3 hussar units for the Russians you would only have 1.
There is also a certain historical argument for this as well because you would only have 1 regiment of each of those specific troops and at the moment you are free to build as many as you want.

Just a thought and probably not very high on your to do list, but could solve part of a problem.

Lord De Moray

07-06-2003, 11:37

Very good point Brother Derfel, Really Hussars for all the nations are very much the same, more or less unless guard units. Adding a generic General unit in one of those spare spaces would be ideal. Kinda a general model and staff, say a unit of 6-10 models in bicorns etc...

Regards,

De Moray http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

TenkiSoratoti

07-06-2003, 22:30

What is this? Suddenly people i never heard of before know loads about the Nap mod

TS

Lord Krazy

07-07-2003, 15:12

Quote[/b] (De Moray @ July 07 2003,09:24)]Not sure how to take that.

Feal like I'm a newby put in my place.

Sorry I joined the forum too late for the early stages of the Mod.

Just wanted to take an interest as it has been an interest of mine for years.

I'll shut up and get the French descriptions done then.
With a pinch of salt . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

No need to be sorry I haven't read half
the thread neither .
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Join in all you want , I'm just having a laugh .

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

Lord De Moray

07-08-2003, 10:23

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Okay now I've dried my eyes

1. LK do you require a list of all the nations generals and their qualities for the campaign? I mean not the leaders but the rest.

2. Why are the French line in bicorns, just wondering?

3. Would there be any reason why the howitzers and cannon batteries are poorly diplayed on my machine, they appear buried in the ground.

4. I've just spent the last 8 hours playing custom battles and I'd like to say well done once again.

Tenkisoratoti.... hope to meet you on the field soon. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Regards,

De Moray

TenkiSoratoti

07-08-2003, 18:07

Ah yes custom battles with the all too challenging AI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif De Moray, yes I to wish to meet on the battlefield

TS

Brother Derfel

07-08-2003, 19:18

Quote[/b] (De Moray @ July 08 2003,04:23)]2. Why are the French line in bicorns, just wondering?
French line wore Bicorns for a good deal of the early revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. I have forgotten when they adopted the Shako. I agree however if we were to be completely realistic, a shako wearing line infantry unit should be available, but lets not give the lords more work than they already have.

Also i have noticed that the cannon batery aprears buried, although my Howitzers and 12lb's do not.

Lord De Moray

07-08-2003, 20:26

Could'nt agree more my friend. Just all the other units have shakos.

1806/07 Is when the shako came into use.

Kind Regards,

De Moray

lancer63

07-09-2003, 00:44

Just the imperial guard retained the bicorne in their ranks as well as their old fashioned uniforms.

Lord De Moray

07-09-2003, 09:16

Hmm.. the Emperial guard retained the bicorn only as an undress hat. Since the creation of the Consular Guard in 1800 the had adopted the Bearskin, but correct that they retained the older cut of coat with the longer tails.

LK are the units in the mod so far everything you will be doing or do you plan to add more at this stage, just realised that I had written descriptions for French Lancers, guard lancers, middle guards etc...

Spot on to Cuirassier for the square effect seems to work well. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

De Moray

Lord Krazy

07-09-2003, 12:09

Quote[/b] (De Moray @ July 08 2003,10:23)]

Quote[/b] ]
1. LK do you require a list of all the nations generals and their qualities for the campaign? I mean not the leaders but the rest.

Well for the campaign the generals are given random
names only the kings and heros can be given names
as far as I know . LOS has a lot of names already
but I'm not sure to what extent so ask him first
what he has and he may need.

Quote[/b] ]2. Why are the French line in bicorns, just wondering?

Because they wore them . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Quote[/b] ]3. Would there be any reason why the howitzers and cannon batteries are poorly diplayed on my machine, they appear buried in the ground.

So your machine is the same as mine . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
The guy that did the camer angles messed up.
I'll have a word with him . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Quote[/b] ]4. I've just spent the last 8 hours playing custom battles and I'd like to say well done once again.

Go to bed . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Quote[/b] ]1806/07 Is when the shako came into use.

The campaign is suposed to start before 1806.
The bicorns and the tricorn that will be done
are for that period , the militia unit might be made
in that fashion also . A French line unit with a shako hat
will be added too . BTW the French line infantry
was the first unit we added. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Quote[/b] ]Spot on to Cuirassier for the square effect seems to work well.

Don't you mean LOS or did I miss something http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Quote[/b] ]Also i have noticed that the cannon batery aprears buried, although my Howitzers and 12lb's do not.

Different version to De Moray it seems .
One version has the wrong bif tagged in the prod
yours I believe and the other has the dodgy angles.

Quote[/b] ]Hmm.. the Emperial guard retained the bicorn only as an undress hat. Since the creation of the Consular Guard in 1800 the had adopted the Bearskin, but correct that they retained the older cut of coat with the longer tails.

go to bed . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Quote[/b] ]LK are the units in the mod so far everything you will be doing or do you plan to add more at this stage, just realised that I had written descriptions for French Lancers, guard lancers, middle guards etc...

No some more will be added the French Lancers
will be but the guards no .
We could add the guards but we would have to use the
same annimation and that may not go down well. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Send whatever you have done so far and I'll put it in.
Thanks
regards
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif