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flip
02-25-2003, 04:55
It's your modI can't leave it Gonna sleep.
Hasta luego
Até Logo

flip

flip
02-25-2003, 21:26
Gold monfortino tipe helmets with crests for equites

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/47.jpg

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/48.jpg

flip

King David
02-25-2003, 23:30
Patricians Citizens of Rome
Pick up the first installment of Roman buildings here:
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/

This will be the first of some future unit icons for patrician. By far, hands down the best building icons and functional as well as adding estetics to an already cool mod. Get them And let me know how you like them.

Lord Krazy
02-26-2003, 00:15
Nice work flip and a lot of it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

If you could spread the screenshots a bit though
it would be, nice as it takes 3 minuets to load
page 20 on a 56k modem and you got that page half way through http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

flip
02-26-2003, 02:11
Quote[/b] ]Nice work flip and a lot of it

If you could spread the screenshots a bit though
it would be, nice as it takes 3 minuets to load
page 20 on a 56k modem and you got that page half way through

Ok LK, I'll try also to compress a bit more the images. Thanks for the advise.


Quote[/b] ]Patricians Citizens of Rome
Pick up the first installment of Roman buildings here:
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/

This will be the first of some future unit icons for patrician. By far, hands down the best building icons and functional as well as adding estetics to an already cool mod. Get them And let me know how you like them.

Test them. Great All fine here. We gonna have a lovely 1.3 version. Any dates for the release? Just to know if I must hurry my units. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

flip

King David
02-26-2003, 04:43
Quote[/b] (flip @ Feb. 25 2003,19:11)]Test them. Great All fine here. We gonna have a lovely 1.3 version. Any dates for the release? Just to know if I must hurry my units. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

flip
Take your time flip. The icons and buildings will be addons even before v1.3 comes out. Dont rush your project because i know how it is when you got the creative spirit going. I just enjoy creating units and building icons. Think you will like the ships and units coming up.

Herodotus
02-26-2003, 14:05
I am wondering what I need to know to get this mod working. I have downloaded the file and winzip will not decompress it, (tells me to re-download it which i did and it made no difference) so do i need something else to decompress it? And where can I download the latest file?

By the way i think this mod looks great, hopefully the book will be as good as its cover.

King David
02-26-2003, 18:32
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Feb. 26 2003,07:05)]I am wondering what I need to know to get this mod working. I have downloaded the file and winzip will not decompress it, (tells me to re-download it which i did and it made no difference) so do i need something else to decompress it? And where can I download the latest file?

By the way i think this mod looks great, hopefully the book will be as good as its cover.
Does anyone else have this problem? Were did you download the file from? (Two Hours later) I downloaded the patrician mod file from the fileplanet. Unziped it to my desktop and installed with no problems..

Díaz de Vivar
02-27-2003, 00:12
Quote[/b] (King David @ Feb. 25 2003,23:30)]Patricians Citizens of Rome
Pick up the first installment of Roman buildings here:
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/

This will be the first of some future unit icons for patrician. By far, hands down the best building icons and functional as well as adding estetics to an already cool mod. Get them And let me know how you like them.
Hey, KD, nice icons http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif really good.

King David
02-27-2003, 00:42
Patricians Citizens of Rome
Pick up your new Agents for Patrician here:
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/
These look realy good. If anyone knows how to convert images to game pieces let me know so we can replace some of the game pieces with our own.

Herodotus
02-27-2003, 05:35
I downloaded it from the Org downloads section, I am now downloading it from fileplanet so hopefully i don't have the same problem.

King David
02-27-2003, 17:49
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Feb. 26 2003,22:35)]I downloaded it from the Org downloads section, I am now downloading it from fileplanet so hopefully i don't have the same problem.
Good, You will not have a problem with the fileplanet version. Thank you.

I_Love_Sherri
02-28-2003, 00:09
Great work on the Mac Civ guys...... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

I_Love_Sherri
02-28-2003, 00:13
Quote[/b] (Díaz de Vivar @ Feb. 24 2003,10:45)]
Quote[/b] (King David @ Feb. 23 2003,23:28)]
Quote[/b] (Díaz de Vivar @ Feb. 23 2003,12:36)]Great work, flip These hoplites look " http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ".
How are you coming along with the maps ?
Slowly, King David. For 2 reasons,

1. Now i´m playing the Multiplayer Praetorians demo in Gamespy, the game is fantastic.

And 2, the main reason. I´m waiting for a spanish guy. This guy is going to help with the Tribes out of the Roman Empire but he disappears 3 days ago and i know nothing about him. The Roman provinces are finished but the other ones are without names...for the moment.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Boo.....if you say your going to do something finish it.

Herodotus
03-01-2003, 05:44
Well I've been playing for the Patrician for a while now and although I must say it is very impressive I have some qualms about the Roman units.

It would be more accurate to be only able to build velites initially, then the hastati should become available followed by the principes and then the triarii.

The velites should require a spearmaker, the hastati and principes a spearmaker and swordsmith, and the triarii should also have need a spearmaker and swordwmith (perhaps armourer too?)but they have no throwing spears and carry a hasta (pike) instead (armed more like a hoplite).

The velites were only young men being blooded in the ways of war, they are lightly armed and armoured and should not be efficient at melee fighting yet.

Only later should Marius' Legions come into being.

Also I was thinking that perhaps you should make Gaulish and German units really big so that they have less tactical control. Just a suggestion.

Anyway, brilliant job King David

King David
03-01-2003, 19:55
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Feb. 28 2003,22:44)]Well I've been playing for the Patrician for a while now and although I must say it is very impressive I have some qualms about the Roman units.

It would be more accurate to be only able to build velites initially, then the hastati should become available followed by the principes and then the triarii.

The velites should require a spearmaker, the hastati and principes a spearmaker and swordsmith, and the triarii should also have need a spearmaker and swordwmith (perhaps armourer too?)but they have no throwing spears and carry a hasta (pike) instead (armed more like a hoplite).

The velites were only young men being blooded in the ways of war, they are lightly armed and armoured and should not be efficient at melee fighting yet.

Only later should Marius' Legions come into being.

Also I was thinking that perhaps you should make Gaulish and German units really big so that they have less tactical control. Just a suggestion.

Anyway, brilliant job King David
I agree. I like that concept. I welcome you to make those changes and submit them to us here so we can try it and perhaps add them to the next version of the mod.

King David
03-01-2003, 19:56
Quote[/b] (I_Love_Sherri @ Feb. 27 2003,17:13)]
Quote[/b] (Díaz de Vivar @ Feb. 24 2003,10:45)]
Quote[/b] (King David @ Feb. 23 2003,23:28)]
Quote[/b] (Díaz de Vivar @ Feb. 23 2003,12:36)]Great work, flip These hoplites look " http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ".
How are you coming along with the maps ?
Slowly, King David. For 2 reasons,

1. Now i´m playing the Multiplayer Praetorians demo in Gamespy, the game is fantastic.

And 2, the main reason. I´m waiting for a spanish guy. This guy is going to help with the Tribes out of the Roman Empire but he disappears 3 days ago and i know nothing about him. The Roman provinces are finished but the other ones are without names...for the moment.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Boo.....if you say your going to do something finish it.
Multiplayer games can be addictive..

Herodotus
03-02-2003, 06:33
Yeah sure I'll give it a go. I'm going to be very busy soon (first day of University tommorow) so I'll see what I can do today.

Herodotus
03-02-2003, 06:47
I think I'm going to need a bit of a hand here. In Crusaders_unit_prod the names of the units have not been changed (still medieval), could someone tell me what the names for the corresponding units are? hastatii (billmen?), velites (spearmen?), principes? triarii?

Díaz de Vivar
03-02-2003, 12:37
Quote[/b] (King David @ Mar. 01 2003,19:56)]
Quote[/b] (I_Love_Sherri @ Feb. 27 2003,17:13)]
Quote[/b] (Díaz de Vivar @ Feb. 24 2003,10:45)]
Quote[/b] (King David @ Feb. 23 2003,23:28)]
Quote[/b] (Díaz de Vivar @ Feb. 23 2003,12:36)]Great work, flip These hoplites look " http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ".
How are you coming along with the maps ?
Slowly, King David. For 2 reasons,

1. Now i´m playing the Multiplayer Praetorians demo in Gamespy, the game is fantastic.

And 2, the main reason. I´m waiting for a spanish guy. This guy is going to help with the Tribes out of the Roman Empire but he disappears 3 days ago and i know nothing about him. The Roman provinces are finished but the other ones are without names...for the moment.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Boo.....if you say your going to do something finish it.
Multiplayer games can be addictive..
He, he, the spanish guy appeared and i´ll continued with the map. But there were two problems, 1. He found Germany Maps but not northeast Europe Map.
And 2. I´ve inserted some graphic but the game crashes. For the moment only i´ll change the province names.

NagatsukaShumi
03-02-2003, 14:51
King David i must congratluate you on the sucess of your MOd, it is an inspiration to us all

I_Love_Sherri
03-02-2003, 14:57
Quote[/b] (Díaz de Vivar @ Mar. 02 2003,05:37)]He, he, the spanish guy appeared and i´ll continued with the map. But there were two problems, 1. He found Germany Maps but not northeast Europe Map.
And 2. I´ve inserted some graphic but the game crashes. For the moment only i´ll change the province names.
Yaaaaaaa.....kisses to all

King David
03-02-2003, 22:03
Patricians Citizens of Rome

Patrician The Birth of Rome is not just about battles and conquest. Patrician is about Art, Creativity and learning to mod a great game. I will be uploading a set of icons that will blow your minds very soon for testing. I have always wanted to learn how to change those dreary dark and gray MTW icons to more colorful and artistic ones and after some help from my friends here at the org, I believe i have found a way to do it. I am not very good at explaining the technical aspects of moding so pleassss be patient and learn by doing and researching (Reading the Posts here at the org) trial and error. Those of you who are contributing to the Patrician mod, keep up the good work and by god, test your creations before submiting them. The Icons I will upload have been tested by me but I ask you guys to beta test them on your mods and let me know how it pans out.
Thank you all for your help and your interest in Patrician.

Don't be a barbarian. Play Patrician

Herodotus
03-04-2003, 04:22
Could someone pull their thumb out and tell me which unit is which to begin with. eg. Is the velite a murabitin? are the hastatii billmen? are the triarii chivalraic seargents and what are the principes? I'm not going to figure it out by spending hour after hour 'trial and error' style. The changes I want to make are quite simple, and all i need to know is the original names of the units. Thank You.

Henry V
03-04-2003, 04:41
-herodotus
the corresponding units can be found in the names txt file LOC folder. scroll down to where unit names are and you will find what units are changed to in patrician.

Baron von Beer
03-04-2003, 07:02
If anyone is interested, I got all the unit info, and made 3 catalog .txt files. One is which Game unit is what Patrician Unit. IE. Negro Spearmen is Legion, Longbowman is Sagitarii, etc. Then, I have 2 others. One is the list of what unit uses what Bif file, the other what units are in which Bif file folder. (same data on each, but organised differently for simplicty.. if trying to swap folders, you can see in one look what inits are in it, or if want to change a graphic, can see what bif a particular unit uses.

These lists do not have siege equipment on them, as all crewman are peasants by default.

If anyone wants em, lemme know, and I can send em out.
(The listings are all in the names file (for names) and unit prod file for the .BIF. I just pulled em out to so I didn't have to dig each time I needed to look one up.

Herodotus
03-04-2003, 07:06
thanks but i just figured that out for myself. Thanks again though, noone responded the first time.

Herodotus
03-04-2003, 07:22
Well I've been working on the build list etc. and i am now looking for some feedback. So, what do you think of the following?

Name - Buildings required - turns to build - originally

velites - spearmaker - 1 - feudal seargents

hastatii - spearmaker2, swordsmith, armourer - 2 - orderfootsoldiers

principes - spearmaker2, swordsmith2, armourer2 - 2 - feudal men at arms

triarii - spearmaker3, armourer3 - 2 - billmen

Marius' Legions - spearmaker3, swordsmith3, armourer3 - 1 - Negro Spearmen

Swoosh So
03-04-2003, 17:40
I tried partrician v1.1 but it gave me the error message about unit not of that religeon in province error, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif , i guess ill get the next version next time im at the net cafe.

I did get it to work but had to remove all the units from all the provinces http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

King David
03-04-2003, 21:54
Quote[/b] (Swoosh So @ Mar. 04 2003,10:40)]I tried partrician v1.1 but it gave me the error message about unit not of that religeon in province error, http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif , i guess ill get the next version next time im at the net cafe.

I did get it to work but had to remove all the units from all the provinces http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
That just means that the Patrician (Early) campaign does not match your unitprod11 file. I suggest you try PatV1.2.

King David
03-04-2003, 21:56
How do you put screenshots here?

King David
03-04-2003, 23:05
http://www.howarddavidjohnson.com/The_Romans.jpg
Patricians Citizens of Rome
Pickup Some New Icons for your Patrician mod here:
Test_KD_PATICONS_2 04 Mar 2003
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWbeta/
Don't Be a Barbarian. Play Patrician

King David
03-04-2003, 23:14
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Mar. 04 2003,00:22)]Well I've been working on the build list etc. and i am now looking for some feedback. So, what do you think of the following?

Name - Buildings required - turns to build - originally

velites - spearmaker - 1 - feudal seargents

hastatii - spearmaker2, swordsmith, armourer - 2 - orderfootsoldiers

principes - spearmaker2, swordsmith2, armourer2 - 2 - feudal men at arms

triarii - spearmaker3, armourer3 - 2 - billmen

Marius' Legions - spearmaker3, swordsmith3, armourer3 - 1 - Negro Spearmen
Marius Legions should take 5 years (Turns) to train

I_Love_Sherri
03-05-2003, 02:16
Love that picture http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

Herodotus
03-05-2003, 08:15
5 years, are you sure? would 3years do instead? Please justify. Also, If I go with 5 years, perhaps I should also change principes to 3 and triarii to 4.

Herodotus
03-05-2003, 08:16
Also King David, I would like to know if the latest link you have posted contains all icons etc. or do I need to go through this thread adding them one by one?

Shay
03-05-2003, 13:10
At 5 years to train, id hope your going to boost thier stats to make them worth the wait. what about four, five is huge i take half a game to get enough boats to flood the med and they take like three years http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif but then again i could change the troops to 3 years if that suited me. not being nasty but that is a long wait.
but by doing so your putting those other units back into circulation..

King David
03-05-2003, 17:20
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Mar. 05 2003,01:16)]Also King David, I would like to know if the latest link you have posted contains all icons etc. or do I need to go through this thread adding them one by one?
Generaly, it took 5 years (Sparticus Movie with Kirk Douglas. Roman Senator quoted this) to train the professional soldier but I guess in the game we can crank it down to 3 or 4.

King David
03-05-2003, 17:22
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Mar. 05 2003,01:16)]Also King David, I would like to know if the latest link you have posted contains all icons etc. or do I need to go through this thread adding them one by one?
It contains plenty of icons. buildings, units and ships.
I will be adding more soon. In the next batch I will upload Barbarian unit icons then Romans and maybe more buildings.

Wellington
03-05-2003, 17:26
Quote[/b] (King David @ Mar. 05 2003,10:20)]
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Mar. 05 2003,01:16)]Also King David, I would like to know if the latest link you have posted contains all icons etc. or do I need to go through this thread adding them one by one?
Generaly, it took 5 years to train the professional soldier but I guess in the game we can crank it down to 3 or 4.
Immediately prior to Cannae (after the disasters at The Trebia and Lake Trasimene) the senate felt a 6 to 12 month training period was sufficient, for new recruits, before engaging Hannibal.

Hhhmm ... and we all know what happened at Cannae

King David
03-05-2003, 17:30
Quote[/b] (Wellington @ Mar. 05 2003,10:26)]
Quote[/b] (King David @ Mar. 05 2003,10:20)]
Quote[/b] (Herodotus @ Mar. 05 2003,01:16)]Also King David, I would like to know if the latest link you have posted contains all icons etc. or do I need to go through this thread adding them one by one?
Generaly, it took 5 years to train the professional soldier but I guess in the game we can crank it down to 3 or 4.
Immediately prior to Cannae (after the disasters at The Trebia and Lake Trasimene) the senate felt a 6 to 12 month training period was sufficient, for new recruits, before engaging Hannibal.

Hhhmm ... and we all know what happened at Cannae
I got the 5 year figure from the Sparticus movie. We can make it less than that since the Roman legion unit realy does not have the stats to justify the long wait. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Herodotus
03-06-2003, 07:42
Where can I change unit stats such as defence, offence and melee? I thought they were in crusaders_unit_prod11 but they are not. I am sure I have messed around with these stats before but i cannot find them now.

Baron von Beer
03-06-2003, 17:46
Melee, defence, armour, etc, are in the unit_prod files. If using Gnome editor; Charge Bonus, Melee, Defence Armour, Honor, Ammo are in columns 37-41. Shield modifier, and type melee with shield, and vs. Cavalry bonuses are at columns 59-64

Herodotus
03-07-2003, 13:16
Where can I get this Gnome editor? I've just been using notepad.

AlanH_30
03-07-2003, 13:27
The screenshots on this thread look great - are the modified units available for download? - if so where can I get them from

flip
03-07-2003, 15:44
Quote[/b] ]The screenshots on this thread look great - are the modified units available for download? - if so where can I get them from

Alan, a lot of work here with a group of important units for Patrician 1.2. I'm testing some that are close to finished, but there are details that I'm tunning. just to give you all good material. Just 2 or 3 more weeks to finished.

flip

Baron von Beer
03-07-2003, 18:33
Herodotus
You can download the editor from this site. Go to Medieval downloads sections, then the tools/utilities, and it is listed as UnitBuildProj_Editorv2.0 and made by Gnome. It will make your editing much easier http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

King David
03-07-2003, 23:11
One of our fellow patricians from the roman total war forums has contributed some tools for modifying the buildprod - unit prod- and campaign files here:
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mtw_Uploads/MTWupload/
buildingtool.zip 05-Mar-2003 08:16 372k
campaintool.zip 05-Mar-2003 08:14 834k
unit-tool.zip 05-Mar-2003 08:15 530k

Herodotus
03-08-2003, 03:31
Cool, I'll check them out. One more question: I have tried to swap the triarii with the hastatii (billmen as triarii not hastatii), but it will not work. I changed the name in the descriptions file but i guess something else also needs to be changed. So what needs to be done to swap the names of two units?

Dramicus
03-10-2003, 05:51
AHH I dont believe it how could this have fallen soo low?


*BUMP*

Baron von Beer
03-10-2003, 06:36
Herodotus:
When you say you swapped names, do you mean the unit name (first column in the unit_prod file) or the BIF file name (48th data entry in unit prod file). If you change the name, you must change the name in the name.txt file as well. (and obvious swap all the stats throughout the file)

To change the animation, you must change the BIF used in column 48 (columns in Gnome editor... should be 48th data entry either way) You must also change the following, in the root of Total War\Textures\men: Rename Billmen_w to OrderFootSoldiers_W, and OrderFootSoldiers_W to Billmen. Then in the ActionsPage folder (in the same root, textures\men) Do the same name swapping, for Orderfootsoldiers and billmen. Then, in the same root, in the folder named "Items", in the Weapon 1 folder, take copy and paste the contents of the order foot soldiers folder into the billmen folder (located in Items\weapon 2). (drop it into a secondary location first, as you must cut and paste the contents of the billmen folder to the order foot folder as well. If you paste it right in, it will overwrite them beforehand.) I'm sure since you've been modding, you know, back up beforehand as well. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif By just changing the animation, it doesn't change the weapon animation, positioning, etc. Also they use seperate attack animations from the same Bif.. The files you swap will make it all work out.

As an aside to David and crew with the mod, I am just finnishing up a new Romanesc Archer unit I made. I am about to load it up and see how it looks (3rd time doing it, first 2 had.... issues.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I am "making" a few other units too, for Patrician.. I decided to do 'em for myself, but will show you guys as well. If you would like to use them, you're more than welcome. (I wouldn't have made them without your mod to play with them&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif If not, no worries, as I set out doing them for myself anyways... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I'll post a screenshot tonight or tomorrow when I have them in the game.

Oh, forgot, you also (I think... I did, and it works, so I assume it is nescessary..) swap the unit's .txt file in the Textures\Men\Actionsdiddy page. Don't recall what this file calibrates... didn't change the settings afterall, just the animations..

Herodotus
03-12-2003, 01:02
Thanks, I'll try that when I have the time.

Baron von Beer
03-14-2003, 08:45
Got the archer pics I mentioned up now..

http://webpages.charter.net/pgrasham/Screenshots/Roman%20Archer%20TestFront1.jpg



Obvious influence on armor from the RTW screenshot.. looked much better than the plain "flat" black I had originally.

Dramicus
03-15-2003, 00:07
AHH

For f*&^4 sakes When are these units going to be added in http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/redface.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

this is some really great work... Me thinks CA needs to watch out in the future...

King David
03-15-2003, 15:50
Quote[/b] (Baron von Beer @ Mar. 14 2003,01:45)]Got the archer pics I mentioned up now..

http://webpages.charter.net/pgrasham/Screenshots/Roman%20Archer%20TestFront1.jpg

Obvious influence on armor from the RTW screenshot.. looked much better than the plain "flat" black I had originally.
This is getting better all the time

I_Love_Sherri
03-17-2003, 03:49
Is there going to be other updates on this mode. I have 1.2 and cant figure out if new units are out/are going to be out? I fear this mod is dead? Hope that is wrong. Sherri

Herodotus
03-17-2003, 04:32
I have basically finished my tech tree mod, so what shall i do with it now? Should I send it to you David?

Herodotus
03-17-2003, 08:16
Why does the StartPos file stuff up when I change things in the Make Unit Section?

Herodotus
03-18-2003, 02:22
To be more specific I am pretty sure it stuffs up when I change the units in Rome and the Papal States.

Baron von Beer
03-20-2003, 00:17
Moderator/admin: I tried linking a few screenshots here from my webspace (same as I linked the others from, they worked) and was told that I could not link from dynamic pages in the IMG adress. What praytell does that mean? AFAIK, my webspace is not dynamic, as it is on my cable ISPs system. (I know MY connection is dynamic.. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif )

(Disregard... apparently something foul was afoot at Charter.. it is working now. This has conspiracy written all over it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

Dramicus
03-20-2003, 01:24
Quote[/b] (I_Love_Sherri @ Mar. 16 2003,20:49)]Is there going to be other updates on this mode. I have 1.2 and cant figure out if new units are out/are going to be out? I fear this mod is dead? Hope that is wrong. Sherri
Dont worry, if you read back you will find that David has stated that he would be on a long vacation (I think, cant remember and am too lazy to check my self... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif )

He will be back in a month or so, nothing to worry about...

Baron von Beer
03-20-2003, 09:14
Hoplons, and Sarissas, and Spartans, Oh my http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

http://webpages.charter.net/pgrasham/Screenshots/Greek/Grk1.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/pgrasham/Screenshots/Greek/Grk2.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/pgrasham/Screenshots/Greek/Grk3.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/pgrasham/Screenshots/Greek/Grk4.jpg

Just got the finnishing touches to do on these guys. (Small touching up, and make the Sarissa a bit longer. Still seems a little short to me) I may add another shield for variety as well. There are also several helmets I can put on them (same without plume, and several open faced). I find the Spartan helmet to be intimidating, and just down right cool, so used it for now. There is also another "unit" version, but it's the same as the Bronze armoured one shown, minus the leather apron. (3 different "looks")

(In hindsight, when making these units, I didn't make that mental hurdle (read: Exorcise common sense) that the shield would cover up the torso, at least from the front. Thats why I have the shots without a shield. I could have dressed the torsos in clown costumes, and had the same end result. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

Rosacrux
03-20-2003, 11:37
Baron

Would you be so kind and send me over those wonderfull units? My e-mail is young_frankie@yahoo.com and I would really appreciate it.

They look awfully good

Hagbard la Suede
03-22-2003, 18:14
THIS MOD IS EXCELLENT

King David
03-22-2003, 19:41
Hello Patricians I have not abandoned you, I am in the process of moving and its allot of work. No time for games at this point but I will resume when I get settled. Keep up the good work to those who are creating those awsome units. These units being created should be offered as addons to the mod. Please do not change the heart of the mod, being the campaing file and the other vital files that make this mod great. I am realy impressed at the response to this mod and hope that more creative things can be done to add to it. Thank you all for your interest in Patrician.

Lord Of Storms
03-22-2003, 19:52
Baron Von Beer those units look awesome if you are posting them somewhere for download let us know if you are not and could mail them them please send them to me at ronin27k@aol.com Thanks...

Baron von Beer
03-22-2003, 20:20
Bah Sorry for not responding on here... They aren't quite ready yet. As Time permits, I am finnishing them up.. (Pesky Real Life has been operating on extended hours the last few day... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

(Strangely, since starting these, I have become addicted to working on them.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif At times, it is almost as much fun making the little guys as killing them IN the game. (some parts are quite tedious and make me want to pull my own arm off to beat over my head and make it all stop... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

One other thing for King David, if you could get in touch with me via e-mail, please do. pgrasham@charter.net
I have an idea I have been playing with, but would need your input to make it usable outside of my own installation. It will also make the decision of what to make next that much easier.
Same for others making units. If you could get in touch with me also, I can go over this possible plan with you, and get a game plan for how best to implement it. Several minds are always better than 1

I_Love_Sherri
03-23-2003, 21:59
Game crashes after a bunch of turns. Have lastest auto d/l. Hope you update soon. Only mod worth playing. Sherri

Hippolyte
03-24-2003, 17:15
First off I 'd like to say its great to play MTW again. King David you've certainly resurrected this game for me--and apparently others.

Your mod is very interesting and I'm impressed with all the different units I've seen posted on this thread. I have been playing Patrician mod 1.1 and have found very few problems. Someone mentioned how there are too many scribes and such, this is certainly true in my games as well. They flood the provinces and make positioning your stacks quite frustrating at times--but I suppose this is a minor problem. As far as the historical accuracy of the relative factions' power and influence. It should be noted that Rome came first to dominate the Italian peninsula THEN Sicily THEN Carthage THEN the north. Carthage is too dificult to get to initially in this mod, especially since the Roman navy is virtually impotent. I have found it much easier to absorb first the Germans and Gauls, THEN hit Carthage (I would also suggest another new unit for Carthage, the Nubian Light Cavalry--these were superb skirmishing cav alry that had a punch). Though I do love the Greek power at the end And I'm sincerely looking forward to implementing those superb looking Hoplites This I suppose is still relatively minor in the shceme of things. The mod, as I said, is very fun.

Now I have been playing Pat 1.1 because Pat 1.2 does not work for me. Yes, I unistall Pat 1.1 with the unistaller found at the ORG and do a competely new install of MTW afterwards with the 1.1 patch as well. (Incidently I have found that while the program mod Pat 1.1 is deleted the selection Patrician is still found on the selection screen--though the program is clearly the MTW version 1.1). Anyhow, after installing the Pat 1.2 found at FILE PLANET everything seems to run well (the game begins and all the option screens are working properly) but after I actually begin to load my specific game. It freezes during the initial load up screen. I select my faction and period (obviously "Patrician") and the loading bar freezes about 1/3 through and a prompt comes on the screen stating something to the effect that one of the units(S) was located in an inapropriate area (Something to that effect anyhow). I am not very familiar with the workings of programs and mods myself but I do get excited when I can change a name and have the game run. Additionally, I would never have posted this if i have not THOROUGHLY enjoyed playing the very rough PAT 1.1 mod. King David did a wonderful job on it and the idea itself is truly brilliant, so this is why I have asked these questions because I really want to play the latest version of the mod. Any suggestions and/or comments would be welcome and appreciated.

King David
03-25-2003, 00:37
I select my faction and period (obviously "Patrician") and the loading bar freezes about 1/3 through and a prompt comes on the screen stating something to the effect that one of the units(S) was located in an inapropriate area (Something to that effect anyhow).

I suggest you download Patrician 1.2 from the fileplanet. Do not install Pat v1.2 over Pat v1.1. It is suggested that Patrician V1.2 be installed over the original MTW Patched version 1.1 of the game. Also sugested that you make a copy of your entire game before installing the mod into it. The Patrician V1.2 from the fileplanet and Respawn are quite stable when installed properly. I discovered that when the game crashes with the message you indicated it is because the Patrician Campaign file in campap and the unitprod11 file of the root directory do not match do to the relationship of the two in this mod. The two files must match for the mod to work. In short it sounds like your patrician v1.1 is still being used by you with the patrician v1.2 unitprod11. file and that will crash your game. I suspect you intalled the mod over v1.1 then chose the patrician v1.1 file in the campaign field. Hope that sheds some light.

Now I have been playing Pat 1.1 because Pat 1.2 does not work for me. Yes, I unistall Pat 1.1 with the unistaller found at the ORG and do a competely new install of MTW afterwards with the 1.1 patch as well.

If you uninstall Patrician V1.1 do it by unitnsalling the whole game folder then copy your original game folder (From your Backup) In its place and install Patv1.2 over it. Note that some windows programs like windows ME do not unitstall files and folders even after you uninstall them by the uninstall selection so make sure to open up your windows explorer and delete the moded pat v1.1 folder by hand (Highlight and delete.) Then copy your Total War backup in its place before installing the patv1.2 mod.


Patrician V1.2 corrects many of those previous problems with the Agent overspawn and the Patrician faction in rome getting in your way. I highly suggest for all Patricians to upgrade to Patrician V1.2. I did extensive testing on it and tweeking until i was satisfyed that it was stable and playable. Most of these problems of crashes are due to user errors in installation. Again I stress that you backup (copy) your whole game folder as a backup so you dont have to reinstall the darn game everytime you wanna play on line or try out a new mod.

Hippolyte
03-25-2003, 03:31
King David:

I appreciate the quick response. It appears as though this was the problem:

[Note that some windows programs like windows ME do not unitstall files and folders even after you uninstall them by the uninstall selection]

After manually deleting the folders within "programs" and reinstalling MTW, 1.1 patch and mod 1.2, it ran like a charm http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif

The new units are very attractive as well as the icons and images (no swamping scribes either&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif. If you are planning another version of this mod (1.3) and you should like some suggestions for additional historically representative units that would enrich an already superb mod, let me know (that is if you don't already have enough on your "to do" list-- http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/dizzy.gif ). The Roman units in particular seem very nearly complete but there is certainly room for expansion for the other factions (for instance, I could give you impressions of particular units and their relative strengths, weaknesses, and availabilities).

komninos
03-26-2003, 16:51
Hi Baron von Beer,

I would definitly need these units for the Persian war mod that I 've started can you send them over ... Thanks

PS have you done any work with Thracian helmets?

Koukos
04-03-2003, 19:39
back to page one

RabidMonkey
04-21-2003, 00:43
This Patrician mod is amazing, I have only just found it and started playing it and it has made MTW into a fresh and new experience. King David you have done an great job with this. i would love to help out with the mod. But do you have enough people already? Also i have very little modding experience tho i am eager to get started. Any advice for how i should get started with modding?

Anyway keep up the great work

I_Love_Sherri
04-21-2003, 01:13
Dont think there is anymore updates coming. Been a whole month since the designer has posted. Was a good mod to play....sorry to see it not be finished. Sherri

RabidMonkey
04-21-2003, 01:35
Maybe your right does this mean the mods on hold or is anyone still working on it?

barocca
04-21-2003, 03:57
hopefully King David is merely still busy moving,
trust me that is exhausting work,

if he's anything like me it will take him a few weeks to regain the motivation, i'll email him later this week and ask for his current status
:-)

cheers,
B.

RabidMonkey
04-21-2003, 12:30
K thanks, playing this mod has got me quite exited at the possibilities of modding MTW. So now im going to trawl this forum for info to get me started.

Díaz de Vivar
04-21-2003, 21:01
I´m waiting for the Viking Invasion to resume the mods and i think that king David too.

The new campaign opens new ideas as a Roman Invasion of Britannia, for example. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I_Love_Sherri
04-22-2003, 02:41
Thanks for the update B.......this mod has endless possibilities. Sherri

Koukos
05-06-2003, 19:17
well the expansion is out...lets hope to see how far this mod can go

yup bump

Díaz de Vivar
05-07-2003, 08:42
Quote[/b] (Koukos @ May 06 2003,20:17)]well the expansion is out...lets hope to see how far this mod can go

yup bump
Out? Where? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif Not here in Spain, of course. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Anyway, i will buy the US version cos here nobody knows when the expansion will be out.

I_Love_Sherri
05-07-2003, 09:06
Wonder if King David was told to stop his progress or he just had a melt down. This wont be the first mod he started strong and fissed out on. Sherri

Díaz de Vivar
05-07-2003, 14:16
Quote[/b] (I_Love_Sherri @ May 07 2003,10:06)]Wonder if King David was told to stop his progress or he just had a melt down. This wont be the first mod he started strong and fissed out on. Sherri
Patience, Sherri. King David will appear, sooner or later. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Lord Krazy
05-10-2003, 03:45
Quote[/b] (I_Love_Sherri @ May 07 2003,03:06)]Wonder if King David was told to stop his progress or he just had a melt down. This wont be the first mod he started strong and fissed out on. Sherri
Sherri,
I understand you why you wish to see
a quick return to progress in this mod.
However i find your remarks about KingDavid a bit harsh
to say the least.

If you consider how much work he has done and
all the other good people that contributed
fine additions to this mod.
If not another scrap was done
it would be unfair to speak of it or the people
involved in such a negative way.

I hope if I ever have to up and leave
for what ever reason and was unable to return
to my beloved modding, That people
would not say the same about me. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

That is not say that KD is not coming back
I'm just saying give the guy a break
he is only human and does it for for free.

I don't know about him but I still pay for my food. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

be nice it won't hurt http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

I_Love_Sherri
05-10-2003, 11:08
Sometimes a little "Push" is a good thing Lord. As you get older you will understand this. Sherri

GreasePaintMonkeyBrains
05-11-2003, 00:54
i think the mod so far is fantastic and sherri mods
are not easy things to create. so dont trash these guys.
but i would like to see some of the new units that are
finished released for beta testing http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

regards
greg

Lord Of Storms
05-11-2003, 01:17
I remember the first time I played Patrician, I thought to myself what a great Mod , KD must have worked very hard to put something of this caliber out. I remember King David answering everyone who would post in the patrician thread no matter what. So the guy takes a break for awhile for whatever reason (none of our business)cut the guy some slack , there is no need for criticisms or "Pushing" I am sure when all is said and done King David will return and if not his legacy in Patrician is still here for us to enjoy. Let us leave it at that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

NagatsukaShumi
05-11-2003, 11:40
Yes that is true Lord of Storms, just because a guy leaves for a while doesn't mean we should hound him for more, he's already given alot to this community and it would be fine if he just said "No more work is happening on Patrician" because he has given enough already.

Lord Krazy
05-11-2003, 15:50
Quote[/b] (I_Love_Sherri @ May 10 2003,05:08)]Sometimes a little "Push" is a good thing Lord. As you get older you will understand this. Sherri
I'm 32, how old do you want me to be.? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

As I get older I just get slower
and pushing me makes me fall down more. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

flip
05-17-2003, 18:29
Hi, any one tested already Patrician 1.2 with Vicking Invasion?

NagatsukaShumi
05-17-2003, 19:40
Unfortunately flip it won't work on VI because of the change in files.

komninos
05-19-2003, 08:55
The probles is that they totaly changed the structure so practicaly 50% of the files needs re building. The good news is that the VI is a lot mor modable. I will give it a try with the work I have done on the Prsian wars that covers the early part of the Patrician too but then I will have to fined a place to put 25MB of data http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

flip
05-19-2003, 22:07
komninos,
I'd like to try your Persian Wars. Are youre files zipped ?, it seems a lot of Mbs, for a mod. I may try to provide you temporary web space, but is it possible to make it just a few Mbs less?

komninos
05-20-2003, 07:28
I will try ... honestly ... The mane problem is that practical I vae altered more than 90% in one or the other way so the items directory should be passed as is along with most of the textures. Pluse it is now for the MTW not the VI http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

flip
05-20-2003, 22:34
Well, here I have not iet VI. Tell me when or if you managed to get those files zipped. Then we may think on put youre work available for all.

Thanks

komninos
05-21-2003, 17:18
Hi all,
Finaly managed to get the Persian wars Ziped
Here are the links to get the files
Persian Wars 1 (http://users.otenet.gr/~timoleon/perswar1.zip)
Persian Wars 2 (http://users.otenet.gr/~timoleon/perswar2.zip)
Persian Wars 3 (http://users.otenet.gr/~timoleon/perswar3.zip)
Persian Wars 4 (http://users.otenet.gr/~timoleon/perswar4.zip)
The Persian Wars is to be unziped in the root MTW directory
the 2,3 and 4 are to be unziped in the textures/men

This is the V.0.9 so it is flat and you get all units from the beginning I have to redo the Romans and some final touches to the values of weapons

Thanks

GreasePaintMonkeyBrains
06-06-2003, 10:45
ok ........what happend to this mod?

regards
GPMB

Emp. Conralius
06-21-2003, 00:22
Quote[/b] (flip @ Feb. 24 2003,09:29)]Units finished

Celtic Cavalry
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/38.jpg
Roman Cavalry
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/39.jpg
Hoplites
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/40.jpg
Macedonian Cavalry
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/41.jpg

Humm... I'll have to retouch some of that spears, the defaults look like sticks of matches.

flip
Flip,

Are the units mentioned in this post available in Partrician v1.2?

MiniKiller
06-21-2003, 01:07
Are theseadded factions or overwriting factions? and can they be added to the campaign map? Like take over so rebel territories.

Emp. Conralius
06-21-2003, 21:19
Quote[/b] (Emp. Conralius @ June 20 2003,18:22)]
Quote[/b] (flip @ Feb. 24 2003,09:29)]Units finished

Celtic Cavalry
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/38.jpg
Roman Cavalry
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/39.jpg
Hoplites
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/40.jpg
Macedonian Cavalry
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/41.jpg

Humm... I'll have to retouch some of that spears, the defaults look like sticks of matches.

flip
Flip,

Are the units mentioned in this post available in Partrician v1.2?
I believe that the factions in Partrician overwrite the others in the original MTW.

FLIP,

Are these screens gonna be in version 1.3? And if not, why not release them?

flip
06-21-2003, 22:06
Hi all,

working on units bifs is a very hard job, I have some units almost ready that I'll post in my website
MTW ancient units (http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/)

We never heard nothing more from the author of Patrician.
Meanwhile we have now VI, so a lot of things will change in next version, I gess.

I'm now working in units icons.

Dramicus
07-12-2003, 17:07
(BUMP)

Its a shame to let all this great work fall into the shadows...

Yelping Godzilla
07-12-2003, 17:47
I never knew about Patrician back when I used vanilla MTW. Shame really :[

Will it be updated for VI?

I'm looking forward to a mod that uses all of Flip's units.

EEUURAAH.

barocca
07-12-2003, 22:42
If you check how Vikings was added to MTW you will notice it is now possible to make Patricians a similar add-on/expansion.
Meaning we will no longer have to overwrite MTW files in order to play Patricians
Patricians can exists alongside MTW and VI.

Before anyone can begin to make such an expansion some form of consensus on what is, and what is not, to be included in Patricians must be reached.

King David has not responded to email, although I will try again. So I propose the current version of Patricians be used as a the "base",
NOW whose extra's do we include?

Lancer6969
07-13-2003, 02:14
I give up on this Mod, TOO damn difficult to get working...

Lancer6969
07-14-2003, 18:15
I dont think it should matter whether or not you got units from other people, atleast he made a mod with the units, and not just making units, that seems worse to me. Maybe everyone that is being rude about this can present me with their mod, and I will gladly critisize theirs.

Yelping Godzilla
07-14-2003, 19:38
I think he first step is not to decide which extras shall be included, as they can be slotted in as work progresses and as testing indicates.

I think the first step is to get a working version of Patrician for VI. At this point it wouldn't have to be a mod which allows standard medieval to still be accessible, or fit in with any other mods, all we're after is a version which works.

Having read this thread I am convinced that King David would have no problems with us making this a true community mod, with perhaps a surrogate project leader (someone with VI modding knowledge). In fact I believe if he is no longer going to work on Patrician, he would /want/ us to continue to update his mod. I never got a chance to play it back in the day and I'm very keen on seeing it brought back into the light - I'll help as much as I can with testing, making .txt file alterations etc but I'm really a very lightweight modder. I'm good with stats, but little else.

I agree that the last version of Patrician should be used. Now all we need is some modders to help make it VI compatible, even if users will need more than one MTW installation to use it with other mods/standard MTW.

After that, start pushing in the extras. I say drop as many in as possible (the lot of them) and start testing from there, pooling our findings and suggestions. It will become clear if an extra doesn't fit well, or is unbalanced and we can fix the problems one by one. It's the big block of raw material and a small chisel approach. Thing is we have a forum full of people who can handle those small chisels so in a reasonable time frame we can get a lot done.

That's the only way I can see this working, with that first big step from MTW to VI.

EEUURAAH

Boohugh
07-15-2003, 21:05
I agree that work should continue on this mod as it is such great fun, and after being put on the discs of PC Gamer UK edition recently it will have a wide fanbase that we dont know about because they aren't necessarily part of the Total War community.

I also agree that it the priority should be to update it to VI, but after that, before more units are added, it may be necessary to remove or change one or two units from the Roman faction. After playing it for a long time, mainly as the romans, i have come to realise that three units are basically the same: The Roman Legion, Roman Republic Legionarii and the Triarii infantry. I don't know the exact history of the mod, but i think these units have been added at different stages of the mod, without removing previous equivilants. As it would be a shame to put to waste the artwork that has gone into creating them, it may be better to change their stats. Although it is important to keep them historically accurate, i think that some of that accuracy may have to be put aside for the sake of playability.

I hope i am not jumping ahead of myself, but i thought these issues should be raised early. Unfortunately I have no modding ability of my own, and so i am unable to help with the technical side, but i would be more than happy to provide help on gameplay issues. As I said before I think this is a terrific mod and it would be a terrible shame to let it die. I also think that King David would have liked us to continue.

Perhaps the reason he isn't here anymore is becuase CA saw his work and hired him to work on R:TW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Yelping Godzilla
07-21-2003, 01:40
Pre-emptive bumpity.

Anyone? C'mon. Don't make me have to try, then fail miserably, to bring Patrician back.

EEUURAAH.

Lancer6969
07-21-2003, 03:02
how are you organizing it?

Yelping Godzilla
07-22-2003, 13:53
EDIT: Ok. I've looked at the scale of the task and with everything else I have got on my plate at the moment, I can't update Patrician for VI personally.

I still hope someone else can help out.

One of the key problems I had is because of the updater system Patrician 1.2 uses, I can't tell exactly what files it adds or modifies when it installs.

It can be done, I just don't have enough free time.

EEUURAAH.

Warmaker
07-25-2003, 23:21
Bump, but I also need some help.

I'm getting a bunch of CTD's in between turns/after battles. It doesn't matter if it's early in a campaign or late during the Patrician 1.2 campaign.

I've had it installed in the following order: MTW, 1.1 US Patch, Patrician 1.2 (Dated Feb 19, 2003), and the Test_KD_PATFIX_V1.2.zip (Readme dated Feb 20, 2003 and replaces the Patrician_V1.2.txt in the startpos folder). I later installed the buildings from TEST_KD_PATBUILDINGS1.zip (Readme dated Feb 25,2003).

I've done the test with the Vikings (usually play Romans) and produced druids with crashes by them it seems. I still CTD later in the campaign with them though.

Is there any fixes I missed? I tried scanning this thread but it's HUUUGE.

BTW, beautiful mod. The Legions look great.

Lancer6969
08-04-2003, 05:29
When will work on this continue?

Dramicus
08-06-2003, 15:33
*cough* bump *cough*

Lancer6969
08-06-2003, 22:46
lol, I am sorry but that was funny *bump*

Antalis::
08-07-2003, 07:07
Please don´t say that all work is lost on this mod.
Since april there is no update.
King David is missing and there is such a great potentual in this mod: I saw pics above in this thread of hoplits: They need to be in it, really.
Now with VI there is the possibility to implementate the celtic warriers as well.
I played Patrician 1.2 and the map is the same as in MTW.
Please keep working on a new roman style map.
Implementate the units above and make a hole new map.
This shouldn´t be a problem for you skillful modder.
Its sad for Patricians that King David had left this forum (don´t know the reasons) but please try to find someone new of you with skills to lead this Patricians team.

It would be a pitty about this mod, if the work on this mod had ended forever http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif .


Antalis::

NagatsukaShumi
08-07-2003, 12:32
King David I believe moved house, he has not been heard from since, it is a shame I admit, though Barrocca or someone else might have more of an idea than I do.

Dramicus
08-11-2003, 00:47
I suggest that we sticky this thread, does it not deserve at least that?

Besides, If King David returns and does not see his thread then he may think that we have abandoned it and will leave for good... And if it is stickied then it will recieve more attention and perhaps more people will join in an attempt to salvage all of this work...

Konig
08-20-2003, 03:37
I am starting a collection to have King David's image advertised on milk cartons worldwide in an effort to locate this great modding man Anyone want to chip in?

Come back King David http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Lancer6969
08-21-2003, 02:36
He is deffinetly gone. Why doesn't someone else start this mod over???

Lancer

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

khurjan
08-21-2003, 10:05
bump

i liked this mod when i played first but now i got vi installed i would love to have it updated


too bad i dont know how to mod and stuff otherwise i could help with my wealth of knowledge

barocca
08-21-2003, 10:52
i have pinned this topic,

i have also sent more email to KD,
lets hope he managed to keep the same email address,
B.

TheSilverKnight
08-23-2003, 02:35
I want a Roman Expansion Mod Thing Please http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif Gimme Ancient Warfare I can't wait for RTW I NEED A PATRICIAN THING NOWWW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif *cry* *cry again* *cry so much that he needs some one to slap him* if anyone has any way that I can get a Roman Expansion Mod without losing any original files, please post WAAAAA *cry* http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

Lancer6969
08-23-2003, 04:49
WoW http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif

Konig
09-09-2003, 07:29
NEWSFLASH

King David seen in small outback town in Australia working in a barber shop owned by Elvis Story yet to be confirmed.

Stay tuned http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

The Blind King of Bohemia
09-09-2003, 12:47
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif

Hagbard la Suede
09-13-2003, 15:04
This mod has extreme potential,it would be sad to see it go away.
This is our chance of tasting Rome Total War,let it not slip away

GreasePaintMonkeyBrains
09-13-2003, 18:55
you guys could help me with my britannia mod...just a thought.

regards
GPMB

ShadesPanther
09-13-2003, 21:13
The britannia mod wil be really cool. Hopefully you could make an expansion onto the whole map of europe http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
plz plz plz http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

ShadesPanther
09-13-2003, 21:15
Oh and plz could someone gimmie a web adress where we could get those lovly units to add on ourselves or maybe email me at: panther__5@hotmail.com (that is two _ )

GreasePaintMonkeyBrains
09-13-2003, 21:56
I will release the britannia mod as an alpha then make the
full release .... then maybe i will make an expasion

Regards
GPMB

ShadesPanther
09-13-2003, 23:10
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif 'appy days

Hagbard la Suede
09-14-2003, 11:18
Yea,the britannia mods seems to become awesome.

I cant wait http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Scipio
09-28-2003, 18:53
People people were getting way off topic here can someone tell me if KD is back? Save the mod

ShadesPanther
09-30-2003, 20:59
I don't think he will be about for a while.

Scipio
10-01-2003, 00:53
sad but probobly true http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

NagatsukaShumi
10-01-2003, 18:11
I don't believe King David will be coming back at all sadly.

Scipio
10-01-2003, 23:10
your words are poisen on this matter. I can only hope your wrong but he has been gone for quite awile... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

NagatsukaShumi
10-02-2003, 11:45
Barocca I believe has tried a few times to reach King David however I don't believe he has recieved a reply from him, sadly it looks as if Patrician will not be returning.

The Blind King of Bohemia
10-02-2003, 12:01
Thats sad that is. The mod was very fun. Lets hope he is reading these messages and the tears of emotion are overwhelming and he returns with an even better mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Rosacrux
10-02-2003, 13:49
Hmm... since there is an effort to make a new mod (Rome-TPDTTA or something like that http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) would the respective modder (Nagatsukashumi) take the opportunity and try to incorporate several aspects of the Patrician Mod into his own?

Would save him a load of work.

But both mods need badly a new map. Any Roman mod should focus on the med and the surroundings - only the British isles out of the whole northern portion of the map are of interest.

Anyway, back to the woodwork. Job is calling Rosacrux http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Scipio
10-02-2003, 15:55
Ya true and I hope they can change the events so that if you are romans you dont have the screen saying english

NagatsukaShumi
10-02-2003, 18:00
It depends what aspects you mean, if you'd like to suggest some I'll take the time to read them and give you a reply with a list of one that I can do which won't require any major changes to the plans I already have, so please name me a few Patrician Aspects you would like to see in my MOD, speaking of which, in the next few hours a newer post with more information in will be posted (Plus the MOD has a new name), it would be extremely helpful if you could posts the aspects prior to the ending of Time Commanders (9PM GMT).

Scipio
10-02-2003, 23:17
i dunno its mainly the general play of patrician that I want but is the english faction now the romans? If so it gives the french a natural hate for the romans cause in medieval the french hated the english and it would make sence to have that gaulish hate of rome. Also will this be for VI?

NagatsukaShumi
10-03-2003, 18:49
No the English aren't the Romans, it is for VI so the factions colours can be changed. Its the faction behaviour that defines whether they have a hate for another faction so the Gauls will hates the Romans, so will many others.

Dr_No
10-22-2003, 13:35
holy smoke 20,000+ views http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/shock.gif
man people really want this mod.... or are desperate for RTW..... erm hurry up CA

barocca
10-22-2003, 19:55
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
all the email addresses for King David are now dead,
he has gone from
"missing : believed busy moving house" to "missing : completely "
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

SO if anyone has the time and energy to attack Patricians with a view to making it fully VI compatible, nows the time to take over Patricians and add your name to the credits list ...

Scipio
10-22-2003, 22:54
Good point just because we may have lost kd forever doesnt mean that we shouldnt keep it alive

Jacque Schtrapp
10-30-2003, 20:27
Don't everybody look all at once, but there has been a King David sighting in the Dungeon http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif

The Black Prince (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=2595)

NagatsukaShumi
10-30-2003, 20:45
Sorry but, thats a post he made last year, its dated Oct 2002, the new post is Oct 2003 by ShadesPanther I think.

Jacque Schtrapp
10-30-2003, 21:44
*searches for the sheepish smiley*



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Scipio
10-31-2003, 06:36
hah lol you had me going there for a while what a coincidince that someone replies to that post on its anniversary

ShadesPanther
11-02-2003, 14:27
Quote[/b] ]Last Post:
King David last posted in Alchemist lab in Re: What's happened to TotalWarAssembly? on Mar. 24 2003,23:59

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ChErNoByl
11-07-2003, 02:39
i have a problem.

I downloaded the patrician_v1.2 mod thing and i ran the exe. I copied my mtw folder. I tried running it, then it said a bunch of files were different and it aborted. Then i tried applying the VI 1.1 patch, ran the mod again, and it didnt work.

I CANT GET IT OWOOORK

plz help.

Scipio
11-07-2003, 04:13
patrician v1.2 is for Medieval verian 1.1 not vi 1.1

barocca
11-29-2003, 00:14
closed and moved - superceded by [url="http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=11514"]Centurion Mod

Duke John
05-03-2004, 12:31
Topic moved
Was originally in the Repository. Mod developments now belong in the Engineers Guild.

Topic unpinned
Development is no longer existing. Mod is superceded by the Centurion mod.

Duke John