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X6_861
10-07-2004, 18:51
I looked around the forum and couldn't find any mention of this, but I'd like to give my theory on what triggers the Marius Reforms.

I got mine around 230 B.C., the exact same year I managed to build an Imperial Palace. I was intrigued and went to a previous saved game where I had the Imperial Palace still qeued up, and used the "process_cq Carthage" cheat, and like magic, the Marius Reforms happened.
Lord_Winter
10-07-2004, 19:02
Imperial Palace i think it is...got it even earlier...
Nerouin
10-08-2004, 07:05
According to the Prima Strat Guide, it's when you build an Urban Barracks
Arakasi
10-08-2004, 07:23
From the posters on total war center, it is when you get the imperial palace.
sapi
10-08-2004, 08:41
i think it's the imperial palace....
Sinner
10-08-2004, 09:18
It's definitely the Imperial Palace. I changed the starting position file so that I could begin building it in the first turn, doing nothing else whatsoever, and as soon as it completed I got the Marius Reforms.
Marius Maxentius
10-08-2004, 16:12
And for that, my friends, you need a Huge City. Guess what? Last night I hit the Marius Reforms for my Scipii campaign in Capua... at 247 B.C.
Red Harvest
10-08-2004, 16:31
CA says it is the Imperial Palace, and will happen no matter which Roman faction (except the Senate) builds one first. However, CA is working on a change for a coming patch so that the reforms won't happen so early--it will have some sort of time element to the trigger.
X6_861
10-09-2004, 06:19
Time released Marius reforms? Cool!

Maybe this can lead to a whole bunch of mods of different events in campaigns appearing.
sapi
10-09-2004, 14:30
my trigger was the START of imperial palace construction.

hehe...imperial palace....nero....hehe
Hambut_bulge
10-09-2004, 23:00
Deffo the Imperial Palace; I even get the Marian Reforms going in the Prologue around 300BC!! ~:eek:

I've done a limited trawl through the files in the data directories and it looks like it might be a hard-coded event in the executables - so we probably can't mod it to be a little more realistic.
element
10-10-2004, 03:23
I agree a timed reform would be great. I hardly ever get to use triarii spearmen in battle because i have hit the reforms. I know you end up getting better units with the reforms... but i'd like to at least get all my pre-marius units before i get post marius units.. just seems more real that way.
Marius Maxentius
10-10-2004, 05:18
my trigger was the START of imperial palace construction.

hehe...imperial palace....nero....hehe

Odd. My reforms didn't occur untol the Imperial Palace was constructed. I spent those six-or-so turns dismantling my current armies. My empire was at relative peace with the others, so I wasn't all too afraid of an attack.
sapi
10-10-2004, 05:49
in my game it could be that someone else finished an imperial palace as i started mine....