Blue Lotus: Total War

[hoggy]

etc ...
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/Intro07.jpg

[shifty157]

Is it just me or does it seem like everyone is dying in your intro picture?

[Moros]

only 4 out of 5...
I like the picture will it also be included in the game in some sort of way?

talking about this will you also make a new intro movie,make a new Ui for the menu, add new music and speech to the game? Will you also change other aspects like EB (traits etc...?)

[DragoonXXIV]

Gregoor as far as i understand it that picture is going to be the splash screen.

Great work as usual hoggy, i'm really impressed by both your CGI and hand drawn stuff. Keep up the great work. Just one suggestion, keep the Samurai fighting the demons but put them to one side, have the chinese fighting demons on the opposite side and the Indian fighting the demons in the middle of the background, then it would be a true Blue Lotus splash screen.

[Moros]

Gregoor as far as i understand it that picture is going to be the splash screen.

Great work as usual hoggy, i'm really impressed by both your CGI and hand drawn stuff. Keep up the great work.
like the idea!

[Turin]

Hey Hoggy, though it's been said before... you are a god among modders! Do you secretly work for Blizzard?

Anyway, I'm sure you've looked around on the EB forum and noticed their new animations, especially the 2 handed animations for swordsmen, spearmen, and mounted lancers. They are all relevant to your mod probably right?

Have you worked out your own animations or are you thinking about borrowing some from the EB team, or a little bit of both?

Oh an BTW, about that list you were supposed to send me...

[hoggy]

Ah, yes. sorry Turin, keep forgetting. Ive got it on a bit of paper so i will get round to it. For animations I'm definitely going to be looking around for anims to use. I'm going to have a go at a couple where i know there are no suitable ones and use that as a test to wether i can do them or not.

[LeftEyeNine]

I am so assured of the quality of this mod that I voluntarily made up a mini sig AD forwarding URL to this forum.. How does it look ? ~:)

[ramareddy]

You could simply use a trident or peacock for a symbol for the Indians. Possibly a cow?

http://kipukatrading.com/necklaces/in-nk13.html

http://murugan.org/pix/3coins.jpg

[GiantMonkeyMan]

@ LeftEyeNine: it looks quite good actually i made mine myself but gaver it blue instead of red and added some screens.... yours looks really great i am sure hoggy will like it

[LeftEyeNine]

I could make a bigger one, but I had to care about the sig limit, you know. My Turkish themed sig already takes away most of it.. Anyway it looked simple and good enough to me, that's why I got it pasted over there..

Thanks for your comments..

[Gubook Janggoon]

You could simply use a trident or peacock for a symbol for the Indians. Possibly a cow?

http://kipukatrading.com/necklaces/in-nk13.html

http://murugan.org/pix/3coins.jpg

I like the peacock idea. I think that would go better with the idea that they're the richest faction.

[Whoami88]

I know its a little late to make civilization suggestions but what do you guys think about adding a Malaysian/Indonesian side? We got a good assortment of different "cultures" and adding them will give them the game a islamic culture.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

i was actually thinking that but i was also thinking: more factions more time longer to wait for it to come out ~D but maybe hoggy could add them in an expansion or something... it is really him making all the final stuff so it would be up to him

[randomhero210]

Same here, I really can't wait for this mod and Hoggy already has enough in the way of factions. I mean if he was turning out models of bland knights or peasants ( like middle ages mods ) I would want plenty of different factions. But when they all have this much personality and depth, no thanks. Hoggy has MORE than enough for me. ~:cheers:

[randomhero210]

We had mentioned it a while back hoggy, but I wanted to know what you were thinking about battle maps. I'm sure it's really far from your mind right now, but I'm still very interested in maps for custom battle in Blue Lotus that feature villages, fields, other geographical features, choke points, and a bit more structure and
interest to them than the standard Total War maps. If possible, it would be nice to add these features into the Campaign too, with random villages and more interesting terrain.

[al'Callaendor]

this mod is for RTW oe BI?

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I think it's for BI. He may make it compatible for both though.

[hoggy]

We're going to hopefully make it for BI but we're still looking into what the limitations are. If it turns out BI won't support BL we'll stick with the version we've got but BI is looking the most probable. It's an awfully large amount of work and as usual Blindfaithnogod will bear the brunt of it if we do it. So, jury is still out...

[al'Callaendor]

ok, do you kow if I can play BI with a ati 64mo?

[blindfaithnogod]

if you can play RTW you should be able to play BI... as i understand it.

[al'Callaendor]

ok.

[zukenft]

The berzerker swing, swimming bubbles and level-up sparkies will actually look good in this mod....or actually, because of...

[zukenft]

Oh,yah, another thing. How will you release the mod for download? I know that this will take a hunderd Megabyte-ish...will you make a torrent, or uploading small parts each time, or just the whole thing? I want to know because I hate long downloading time. especially for this (greatest) mod.

[Moros]

if you can play RTW you should be able to play BI... as i understand it.
but with a big lag they say. Someone, I believe it was Prometheus (not sure), posted somewhere that BI battles lag. And that he couldn't play huge battles anymore and he had to turn lots of video options lower...

So it might be slow but I don't know much about computers.

[randomhero210]

Oh,yah, another thing. How will you release the mod for download? I know that this will take a hunderd Megabyte-ish...will you make a torrent, or uploading small parts each time, or just the whole thing? I want to know because I hate long downloading time. especially for this (greatest) mod.

good things come to those who wait

A torrent is not necessary, just a straight a simple download with multiple mirrors would do.

[hoggy]

Not sure how we're going to be releasing it yet but it is going to be big as we're replacing alot of files. We'll sort something nearer to the time.

On a different note I noticed that BL is a year old today! ... ! (d@#n that went fast!) As an update I'm currently doing animations with the help of Bwian and Blindfaith is converting BL to RTW 1.3 which is the version I think we are going to go with. I am estimating roughly a January release at the moment... but don't quote me. Thanks to everyone for your support over the past year, I hope the product lives up to your expectations :bow:

[the_mango55]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLUE LOTUS!! :balloon2: :balloon2: ~:cheers: :balloon2: :balloon2:

[GiantMonkeyMan]

drinks are on me! :barrel: well done hoggy!

now you have said a rough release date i am really really really wanting this to come out!!! is there anything you need help on? coding wise though

[BasketCase]

Hi, I've been following this mod for a very long time but this is my first time posting, anyways this mod looks great and the units are beautifully made. I especially like the dragons.

[The wise Penguin]

1.3? Nooo! What about the AI? And the hordes? And religion? And night battles? I guess I can live without them, but it would certainly be nice to have. Night battles against demons would be so cool :(

[Moros]

1.3? Nooo! What about the AI? And the hordes? And religion? And night battles? I guess I can live without them, but it would certainly be nice to have. Night battles against demons would be so cool :(
what AI???
and that religion thingy isn't really that much. The night battles are quite nice to see but don't add that much to gamemplay. I think that the only "cool" addition are the hordes really. But If I have to choose tiny battles for a lil' light affects and that one horde option or giant battls with ots of beautifull models. I'd choose the latter.

1 year? So that means that not only EB is slow ~;)

nah just kidding. happy birthday Hoggy...err...BL!!!

[randomhero210]

1.3? Nooo! What about the AI? And the hordes? And religion? And night battles? I guess I can live without them, but it would certainly be nice to have. Night battles against demons would be so cool :(

The patch includes the AI improvements, all the other stuff is really just fluff.

[moreb_benhk]

Heh. Haven't seen any AI improvements in the BI thusfar. However. How is the mod going? I've been excited about this one for a goodly long while now.

[hoggy]

Hello, sorry about the shortage of posts lately. We're still plugging away at it. Parts of the conversion are proving tricky but we're getting there.

here are a couple of message images. we're mostly using period art for the messages but in some cases where we can't find good reference we'll make them ourselves.

assasin screen
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/assasinmessage.jpg
prebattle (japanese) screen
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/prebattlemessage.jpg

[dark_shadow89]

~:eek: ~:eek: ~:eek: great stuff, as usual hoggy!

[DragoonXXIV]

Hoggy great stuff as usual. Just wondering, but do you plan to replace all the backgrounds in R:TW?

[Ilsamir Lord]

All the message art is superb!

[hoggy]

Dragoon - what do you mean by backgrounds?

here is the generic 'exterminate populace' message art (again we couldn't find good existing art for this):

http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/exterminate.jpg

[GiantMonkeyMan]

sweet! keep it up hoggy!

[DragoonXXIV]

Sorry wrong word choice, i meant all the messages and splash screens, basically are you planning to change all the artwork in R:TW?

[Morray]

You know, It amazes me that no one since Hoggy Has made a fantasy mod for R:TW! I thought that the Fantasy genre was a trget audience for the average TW fans!

I know this doesnt want to be labled with 'Fantasy' as it is ased more on Mythology more than Fantasy but I think the two are closely related!

The sheer depth and Creativity someone like Hoggy can bring to a Mod in R:TW is unfathomable!

As far as I can tell there seems limitless boundries to which you can tweek the game that anything is possible!

You can create an entirley new map, you can create new unit animations and designs, you can change the units stats, scenery even weapons! So what are the boundries that tie the R:TW modders to what they can and cannot do?

Can you make flying Units? Now I know I would love to see Dragons!

...So why has no one until Hoggy started developing a Mythological based Mod?

I don't know if anyone is familiar with Games Workshop, but a mod based on their Warhammer fantasy game would be amazing!

Still I have to say congratulations to Hoggy for being the first pioneer into the realm of creating not only the first Mythological based Mod but what looks like the most creative and eargerly anticipated Mod to date!
(sorry for spelling mistakes im a little ill :san_lipsrsealed: )

[GiantMonkeyMan]

there is already loads of fantasy mods... like the lord of the rings tw and men and monsters tw but blue lotus is probably the most successful

[SJRlunchbox]

There is a Warhammer Fantasy mod. http://www.zodiak-productions.com/

And Flying units probably aren't possible. They'd function no differently to land-bound units despite their model being twenty feet in the air. It would look a bit questionable when swordsman charge a dragon fifty feet at the air, slash at the ground it's flying over, and cause damage to it.

[Morray]

Is that just a guess or are you programmer m aterial yourself?

As for Men and Monsters well I didn't know about that bad boy! still that looks very much so in the making! and will take a good while before it is produced!

So as a fantsy fan are there any other mods that i may be looking forward to ? :san_huh:

[hoggy]

there is the Wheel of Time mod here at the Org amongst others.


On a seperate issue, just a quick update. Blindfaith is working on the conversion to 1.3/5 as we speak. I'm off for Christmas now til around the 5th of January so no updates for a while. I hope you all have a top Christmas and New Year and thanks to everyone for their continuing support! See you next year :san_smiley:

[Samurai Fanatic]

Happy holidays!

[Turin]

How's the conversion process coming along?

What still needs to be done besides the 1.5 porting?

[hoggy]

Ok folks, sorry about the lack of posts. Here's a quick update. Blindfaithnogod is working on the conversion to 1.5, re-integrating maps, units and all the work we've done so far. I've been concentrating on a bunch of small details. Boat models for the strat map, landscape textures, destroyed versions of the battlefield wall models and numerous other small art jobs. Pixelgenie is going to do 2 new Mongol units which are undecided as yet although one will be thunder bombers. Apologies if it's been a bit quiet recently but the work goes on.

[jramoyo]

Hello guys! I just recently decided to buy RTW mainly because of the great MODs I've seen in this forum. This Blue Lotus is probably the most interesting one for me.

Since I'm pretty new to the game, I'd have to apologize for asking about the status of this MOD, has it been released? Or still under development?

[LeftEyeNine]

Still under development, and if I'm not wrong, the team is on the compilation of the mod together and adaptation of it on version 1.5. You can check the post just above yours. Let me quote :


Ok folks, sorry about the lack of posts. Here's a quick update. Blindfaithnogod is working on the conversion to 1.5, re-integrating maps, units and all the work we've done so far. I've been concentrating on a bunch of small details. Boat models for the strat map, landscape textures, destroyed versions of the battlefield wall models and numerous other small art jobs. Pixelgenie is going to do 2 new Mongol units which are undecided as yet although one will be thunder bombers. Apologies if it's been a bit quiet recently but the work goes on.

Blue Lotus is the only reason I did not uninstall RTW.. Looking forward to it..

[jramoyo]

Quick question, how are MODs (particularly Blue Lotus) in RTW usually installed? Can I still play the orig RTW even with the mods in place?

[IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer]

No, you can't play vanilla with a mod installed. But you can just copy the vanilla directory before you install the mod, then you'll have two installs, one modded, one vanilla, and you can play both.

[Duke John]

Depends on the mod makers. Large mods can be made without touching original R:TW. It will become an expansion like BI that requires a seperate shortcut to start.

[jramoyo]

Depends on the mod makers. Large mods can be made without touching original R:TW. It will become an expansion like BI that requires a seperate shortcut to start.

Cool! thanks for the info, I hope blue lotus works this way. if not, I really need to get a new hard drive

[mike007]

Hi Hoggy.

Thanks for keeping us updated, its really apreaciated, as is all your hard work you and the team have put into the mod. I think i speak on belave of all BL fans that were getting pretty excited as it seams like your getting close to some sort of release.

I have a question, once BL is done, is there a possibility you might convert it to Medeval 2? The screen shots of ME2 look pretty amazing & the upgraded RTW engine must be pretty powerful, let alone all the new features.

Anyway, thanks again, cant wait for more info.

Mike

[hoggy]

At the moment we're doing it as a seperate install i'm afraid folks. We need custom battles for testing and apparently they don't work using the shortcut. We may change this later.

MTW2 does look great, I have to say it is a large part down to the difference in quality of the artwork and the added processing power. At the moment we're just doing RTW and concentrating on a release for that but who knows...

[moreb_benhk]

I'd install 5 copies of RTW on my puter if necessary to play your mod. Every day I come to look and see if it is done or if there is a beta out or something like that, is another day I sigh and look off into the distance. Delayed gratification. I only hope that when it is released I won't get too excited and have a heart attack.... Then I'd never get to play.

[Moros]

I'd install 5 copies of RTW on my puter if necessary to play your mod. Every day I come to look and see if it is done or if there is a beta out or something like that, is another day I sigh and look off into the distance. Delayed gratification. I only hope that when it is released I won't get too excited and have a heart attack.... Then I'd never get to play.
I'd do it too. to bad I already have 9 installs: 1 Rtw vanilla 1.2, 1 Rtw vanilla 1.5, 3x Eb (different versions: the OB and two cprevious versions), Chivalry, Rtr6.0,Lotr totalwar, the 4th age total war and SPQR.
... hmm that makes 10 ohwell I'll be download ing BL too. One more can't hurt. (Said this about 8 times already but oh well.)

[Ilsamir Lord]

Can't wait. That is all.

By the way, my mod is fantasy ~;)

[Kull]

In case you hadn't seen this, a modder named kagemusha has discovered how to place STW assasination movies into the RTW assasination message graphic (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=60881). Since Blue Lotus has a far eastern theme, you could probably use them "as is". It would be a neat new feature.

[Moros]

In case you hadn't seen this, a modder named kagemusha has discovered how to place STW assasination movies into the RTW assasination message graphic (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=60881). Since Blue Lotus has a far eastern theme, you could probably use them "as is". It would be a neat new feature.
Will it also work with 1.5? Cause this is done in BI.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

it should work in any version of rome/bi

it is basically replacing the event pic with a similar code to the wonder videos only with the assassination vids instead... it would be cool if hoggy would include them but i don't think ninjas would work well with demons/india :inquisitive:

[Moros]

it should work in any version of rome/bi

it is basically replacing the event pic with a similar code to the wonder videos only with the assassination vids instead... it would be cool if hoggy would include them but i don't think ninjas would work well with demons/india :inquisitive:
but it would be for chines/japanese/Koreans?

[GiantMonkeyMan]

the thing is the event pics for each faction are one and the same (correct me if i am wrong)... so it would be for every faction ninjas etc... but i suppose you could make it in EDB that the demons etc can't hire any assasins but that wouldn't be very balenced....

[Kull]

the thing is the event pics for each faction are one and the same (correct me if i am wrong)... so it would be for every faction ninjas etc... but i suppose you could make it in EDB that the demons etc can't hire any assasins but that wouldn't be very balenced....

On the other hand, this is a fantasy mod. Which means you could announce that in Blue Lotus all "hit-men" belong to a Clan of Assassins (all ninja) who are available to the highest bidder.

[hoggy]

Yes that's the idea. Ninjas are assasins for all factions in BL. They kill for the highest bidder. Not sure if we'll use the ninja movies yet, we'll see if they fit.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

i am not worried about using the ninjas.... i love the idea i mean who wouldn't want to be able to hire some super cool assassins? :laugh4:
but the problem with the movies is that the people who die are all japanese... it might work if you were killing someone from japan, china, korea but that is about it
besides, i wanna see some of hoggys wonderful art instead :2thumbsup:

[Moros]

i am not worried about using the ninjas.... i love the idea i mean who wouldn't want to be able to hire some super cool assassins? :laugh4:
but the problem with the movies is that the people who die are all japanese... it might work if you were killing someone from japan, china, korea but that is about it
besides, i wanna see some of hoggys wonderful art instead :2thumbsup:
can you only have one model for assasins? But you can perhaps use a reskin for the Demons. Something like a dead nija or Zombie ninja r something. And the indian/ Mongol assasin might just be able to work with a different skin. Cause I know you can change those.

[beaverprophet]

can you only have one model for assasins? But you can perhaps use a reskin for the Demons. Something like a dead nija or Zombie ninja r something. And the indian/ Mongol assasin might just be able to work with a different skin. Cause I know you can change those.


I think you're missing the point here, what they mean is that the people that the ninjas kill in the movies are only japanese people, the models for the ninjas isn't the issue.

[Moros]

I think you're missing the point here, what they mean is that the people that the ninjas kill in the movies are only japanese people, the models for the ninjas isn't the issue.
I usually miss the point.:shame: But my post was referring to the first part of the post not the part about the movies.

[beaverprophet]

Ah, in that case, sorry, i thought you were talking about the movies, not just assassins in general :p

[hoggy]

finally finished the intro screen, needs some work and the thanks section isn't finished yet but..:
http://www.awrate.com/chrishogg/images/Intro12.jpg

[DragoonXXIV]

Still it looks wonderful hoggy, I think this Intro really gets to the point of blue lotus, although i wish it also included the other factions. Anyway it's safe to say that we're all impressed with your work and eagerly (some folks a little too eager) await the release of a beta.

[Sykotyk Rampage]

oh wow ....Hoggy that is a great piece of art.

Perfect atmosphere. Once again!!

[Revolting Friendship]

Thats awesome Hoggy, you've managed to catch the feel of japanese art well, and I love how you added in the name of the team-members. Two thumbs up for this masterpiece. :2thumbsup:

[Samurai Fanatic]

wow! Ive never saw druel come out of my mouth at that scale before, now my computers wet. Awsome as always and forever will be.:2thumbsup:

[lobotomy071]

why is it 1.3 why not 1.5?

[hoggy]

Ok, just a quick update of where we are. Sorry it's been quiet for a while. Basically the conversion to 1.5 has been throwing up problems and in many cases CTD's have occured without show_err picking them up. Currently Dromikaites is trying to work out why our battles won't play without ctd and we hope to get that sorted this weekend. We are onthe case but it's just taking much longer than expected. Thank you to everyone for being patient, we'll get there eventually! :) :bow:

[Death_Sheep]

We've been with you this long Hoggykins, we won't string you up yet.



Yet. Just kidding Hoggy, you and your tema keep up the good work. :)

[mike007]

Thanks for the update hoggy, i & im sure everyone else here, really appreciates them.

Good luck with the CTD errors, i hope they can be fixed ok.

[Moros]

yeah goodluck with fixing the CTD's!!!
and nice drawing :2thumbsup:

[moreb_benhk]

Conversion seems to be a pain for loads of mods. Curses, delays force me to wait longer. Anyhoo, best of luck in that endevour, I eagerly await the outcome.

[Subedei]

Yes, good luck & patience.....Here is anotherone waitin hard for your mod!!!!!

[manu7777]

Hello,

I work since now two months on a problem of animation on my mod. I have just discovered that the patch 1.3/1.5 broke the good working of the files of my mod. So, does blue lotus will work with RTW 1.5/1.6? Do you think all errors Dromitakes meet are because 1.3/1.5 patch ? I've notice all actual mods work only with 1.2, it's strange. Why you don't release a 1.2 compatible version before a 1.5/1.6 version ?

Cordially.

[Bar Kochba]

HOggy anynews are there any fixes?

[anti_strunt]

I suppose I'll second that... Any news?

[hoggy]

Quick update. Dromikaites solved the main problem we had with battle crashes so now we're moving onto the rest of the game. Will keep you posted...

[Moros]

Quick update. Dromikaites solved the main problem we had with battle crashes so now we're moving onto the rest of the game. Will keep you posted...
good to hear!:2thumbsup:

[Bar Kochba]

Good to here but any dates?

[Moros]

I don't think they have a date. When porting to another version or fixing bugs you don't know when you will be done. Unexpected things happen.

[hoggy]

The closest we can say really is this summer. Hopefully before MTW2.

[Taurus]

Great piece of artwork there hoggy.

Can't wait for it to be released. gj guys! :2thumbsup:

[Bar Kochba]

The closest we can say really is this summer. Hopefully before MTW2.

can there be any open beta just a bit early like mid april?

[Jahangir]

Hey, you should add tengu to the Demon army. Tengu were bird demon swordsman prevelent in Japanese mythology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengu

[hoggy]

Ok folks sorry about the long stint with no update. We had a few setbacks putting together a working 1.5 version. We now have a working version of 1.5 thanks to Dromikaites but we need to get a few bits together yet before it's workable enough to go to closed beta testing. Shouldn't be long now though possibly a week or 2. Thanks for your patience guys.

[Avicenna]

Congrats on getting so far with the mod hoggy and everyone else! Is the loading screen based on real Japanese art?

[Burns]

Im glad to see the mod coming along. I cant wait to play it. Now is 1.5 BI or RTW?

[mike007]

Great news Hogg-master-mike! good luck with the testing & keep us posted.

Just a quick question, roughly how big will the open beta file be? Since you've changed so much, im expecting it to be a decent size!

good luck!

[Ypoknons]

1.6 is BI. 1.5 is RTW.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

it's for 1.5 rtw... :thumbsup:

[hoggy]

A quick update: We've just done a patch to fix some bugs thrown up by the testers. Hopefully we should have an Open Beta release in the next couple of weeks if everything goes to plan. Cheers for your patience :bow:

[Morray]

Can we expect the open beta to have quite a few flaws in it that will be eventually ironed out, or will it be quite the clean version?

Uh and how is the morale looking like as one of the testers said it seemed quite low?

[Taurus]

A quick update: We've just done a patch to fix some bugs thrown up by the testers. Hopefully we should have an Open Beta release in the next couple of weeks if everything goes to plan. Cheers for your patience :bow:

Nice one, I'm looking forward to it :thumbsup:

[mike007]

Awomse hoggy! thanks for he update...

[hoggy]

Can we expect the open beta to have quite a few flaws in it that will be eventually ironed out, or will it be quite the clean version?

Uh and how is the morale looking like as one of the testers said it seemed quite low?

The patch update includes unit balancing overhaul so we just need to test that. After that the release will probably have some CTDs which will mean saving before each turn. They are currently randomly generated by the AI during their turn so it's probably linked to names or another file. Hopefully they will be fixed but the release may still have some bugs. Not enough hopefully to affect the overall game.

[Subedei]

I am so looking forward to this mod....GREAT NEWS!!!! Can`t wait to fight those demons!!!!!:2thumbsup: :balloon2: :2thumbsup:

[Morray]

Hopefully they will be fixed but the release may still have some bugs. Not enough hopefully to affect the overall game.

I am sure everyone is more than willing to accept having to save every turn as a consiquence of this game. Doubt there will be any complaints in that department!

Just out of interest do you guys mind this probe into your experience of the game or would you all rather we shut up and wait :2thumbsup:

[mike007]

good question. sometimes i feel bad for probing so hard but what can they expect!? this is the most promising/exciting/inovative mod to come for RTW EVER!

[Jahangir]

Hoggy, are you able to make this available from Fileshack when you make it available? That's the only way I could be able to download it I think. I can't download it from File Planet anyway. thx.

[Moros]

You won't mind, you won't mind. Really, you won't.

[saulot333]

You won't mind, you won't mind. Really, you won't.

Oh, look, a beta-tester teasing us! Capture him and discover his secrets!:book:

[dark_shadow89]

Hi Hoggy,

Excellent mod, best so far! Are the factions finalised, or are you thinking of adding any more for the final version? If you do add more factions, might I suggest an Annamese-like faction to the south of Zhuanshi (I suggested this idea to you a while ago, and you said you'd consider it)? This faction could be similar to Zhuanshi, but would have elephants, and no chariots.

cheers, and keep up the awesome work!

[Murfios]

When is it coming out>?
Do we need BI?

[Count Flip]

......... your kidding right????

the betas already out and yes BI is required

[Count Flip]

crap.... bi isnt required..... i was thinking for a second

[Murfios]

Ah! Great, no BI required!? great
Thaxs for your time flip nation

[hoggy]

It's for RTW with the 1.5 patch. It may work on BI but it isn't tested on it.

[Helm Hammerhand]

Well, after playig that Mod for several days, I must conclud: awesome shit!

Don't wanna know how much sparetime you invested in that mod..., really awesome.
But I interested in one thing: Is there a possibility to create different language packs? :shame:

[Moros]

Yes, that's possible but that would take a lot of time, really a lot. And as we already don't have much manpower we're not going to put much in stuff like that.

[Helm Hammerhand]

Well, I am a player since now only, but what is necessary to change the text files? Is there a kind of guideline to change those data?

[Moros]

To translate everything? Or what do you mean? About all the txt files in data/text I guess and you might also want to change the faction descr. Perhaps even some more files I can't come up with atm. If you want the full list PM me And I'll have a quick look. Tough I think that should be about all.

[Rinsui]

Wait, haha!
My newest patch already contains new faction descriptions and a lot of other txt changes in addition to the new walls and buildings. Patience, patience.
^.^/

[Scundoo]

Is there going to be a bug-free final version released sometime? This mod is 1 of 3 reasons why someone should own RTW (the other 2 are EB and NTW2)

[Moros]

Yes, there'll be a new version out this fall. I and son Goku are working and finishing up on it. Progress at the moment is a bit slow as I'm currently at university with not all my files transfered to my new laptop, while Son Goku has problems with his computer. However it shouldn't take to long anymore anyway. ~:2thumbsup:

[Rinsui]

...having problems with his computer... is an euphemism, haha. My graphics accelerator simply decided to melt away. So: no BLTW for me until I find the time to have this fixed (which will take some weeks).
Btw, Moros, did the last walls-and-buildings-patch I sent you work? The building requirements for the new walls are not in the EDB yet (I think), but you can take a look at them in custom battles. At least, that was the last think I was able to do before meltdown-day ^^/

[Moros]

Transfering files as we speak...

[Old Nick]

Just wanted you to know, there are some who appreciate your work, BL is too good to just let it die, so keep it up !:2thumbsup:

[Rinsui]

1. Fear
2. Not
I am personally much too involved to not finish this diamond of a mod. But I`ll be open: Start thinking about it as a christmas present if I have to finish it on my own. The thing is: Notebook`s graphic chip molten -> estimated time of repair about 1 1/2 month... Ah. Did I mention that was the only powerful PC I have ^^/?

[Moros]

Well for the moment there isn't that much work to be done. Only problem is that due to problems with transfering my files form my other pc to my laptop, I can only work at weekends, when I have little time.

However no need for worries at all. :2thumbsup:

[Jubal_Barca]

I'd like to borrow certain battle models for my Warhammer mod; who should I contact?

[Moros]

you could pm me.

[Jubal_Barca]

I sent one to you a few days ago, did you recieve it?

[Moros]

Hmmm you did?wierd. Anyway how many models, would you need and are they units only?

[gummybear00]

Hey BL developers,

If you need any extra help with the mod let me know. I'm familiar with most aspects of modding and skinning so I can help.

[SubzeroPlainzero]

it's really good to see this mods still active. I have a question- will the new version be contained within it's own mod folder? I'm enjoying playing lotr-tw at the moment and wouldn't want to have to copy my entire rome-tw folder, I have very little disc space.

Anyways good luck with the new release:2thumbsup:

[Rinsui]

Sorry, due to being a project that has been started years ago, BLTW is a "total conversion" - type mod that overwrites most original RTW folders. As such, it is very jealous of any other mods. Not that there would be much it has to be jealous of, mind you ^.^/

[Jubal_Barca]

I haven't played through the whole mod yet so I don't know all the units, but the ones I have pressing need of are;

the HUGE cannon jobbie
the hongshuefei
shiva
the chariot model from the krishnapur chariots

I will give due credit, and would like to reskin the models if that's OK.

Thank you for your time,

Jubal

[Moros]

Okay you can use those. If you will be using more please tell me, please don't go overboard though.

[Jubal_Barca]

Thanks. :2thumbsup:

[Jubal_Barca]

ZOMG only just played with the Mountain Tribesmen Blokes... please can I borrow them? I have BIG plans for these guys... :idea2:

[Old Nick]

1. Fear
2. Not
I am personally much too involved to not finish this diamond of a mod. But I`ll be open: Start thinking about it as a christmas present if I have to finish it on my own. The thing is: Notebook`s graphic chip molten -> estimated time of repair about 1 1/2 month... Ah. Did I mention that was the only powerful PC I have ^^/?

I'm sorry for your loss, especially since my pc blew up shortly after that as well...probably out of solidarity...:embarassed:

But that is excellent news and I'm reaally looking forward to it.That's the one Xmas present I really am looking forward too.:yes:

[Moros]

ZOMG only just played with the Mountain Tribesmen Blokes... please can I borrow them? I have BIG plans for these guys... :idea2:
Which unit do you mean?

[Rinsui]

I guess he is talking about the Krishnapuri "Hill Tribesmen" Unit (or whatever it was last called) unit. The unshaved Rasta-guys with the big clubs.

[Jubal_Barca]

I guess he is talking about the Krishnapuri "Hill Tribesmen" Unit (or whatever it was last called) unit. The unshaved Rasta-guys with the big clubs.
That's the ones...

Now it's Christmas I have had time to play every unit in the mod, and I have 3 last rquests, then I promise I'll vanish and you wll never hear of me again...

1. Could we use the ghost and 2. its skull projectile?

3. THis may be over the line, I don't mind if it is, just tell me. On the Chariots I've been trying to alpha out the umbrella shade jobbity, but it's really ****ing me and my graphics guys around and not working, suddenly reappearing, etc, etc. Would it be possible for me to take the umbrella and pole off the model altogether?

Thanks guys, you've been an enormous help and my team and I are very eternaally grateful,

Thanks,

Jubal_Barca

[Old Nick]

1. Fear
2. Not
I am personally much too involved to not finish this diamond of a mod. But I`ll be open: Start thinking about it as a christmas present if I have to finish it on my own. The thing is: Notebook`s graphic chip molten -> estimated time of repair about 1 1/2 month... Ah. Did I mention that was the only powerful PC I have ^^/?

Hi,

I have to admit I'm a tiny bit nervous by now...although you never said which christmas...:sweatdrop:

Keep it up !:yes:

[Rinsui]

As I said: Fear not. I am back to work already now.
And yes, admittedly: originally I meant the past christmas ^^
My apoligies.

[Old Nick]

Don't apologise please,

just wanted to hear a life-sign, after all it is I who is indebted to you for keeping this brilliant mod alive.:bow:

Take your time.

Cheers

[Eufarius]

Don't apologise please,

just wanted to hear a life-sign, after all it is I who is indebted to you for keeping this brilliant mod alive.:bow:

Take your time.

Cheers
Very True. Keep it up!

[Moros]

I've had a awefully bussy time. My exams are over in about two weeks. Then it shouldn't take to long for us to have a release. Sorry for letting you waiting guys.

[Old Nick]

Thanks for the update and good luck with your exams.:2thumbsup:

[Eufarius]

Funny conversation we had Moros.
lol.

[Old Nick]

Soooo...how's life ?

and how's, well, ...."the baby" ?:sweatdrop:

[Rinsui]

Just to make you guys Happy.
I'm currently working about 2-3 hours a day on BLTW;
but believe me, while the original modders did an awesome
job as is, they had no common "system" for modding.
This results in most of the modded data being made up
of patchworked patchworks, and it is very time-consuming
to identify what exactly is linked to what in the final product.

Since they also didn't cleanly throw out the old, now unused
RTW files either (which was not necessary I guess, since they
all knew all-too-well what they were doing), the internal structure
of BLTW is just as chaotic as the original CA RTW one - and those
familiar with modding RTW will know what I'm talking about. Of the
2.something GB RTW consumed on your HDD, about 1 GB is unused
garbage. Waste. Decoy. Dummy-files never used by the game.

It has taken me some time to get familiar with that fact; and at
one point, I decided to overhaul the whole thing and try to give
it a common, easy-to-recognize, logical structure. Well. And on
they way there, I learned how to model. And how to skin. And
how to script. And lo! - as I also was in the middle of digging
through piles of files anyway, why not correct some errors in
the models, buildings and so on...? Why not give the Yomi walls
that actually work (the Gatehouse didn't)? Why not add new
animations and effects to crumbling walls? Why not correct the
bugs on the map? Why not find the cause of those nasty random
CTD'S? Why not include the Terracotta Army models and throw in
the Jade Emperor for fun? I simply decided to do it. So that's
what kept me busy.

I can not say when I'll be done. But I can say: I am doing.
Incessantly. Restless. (Nearly) every day.
Who wants the Dragons to breathe fire?
I do.
Cheers,

[Old Nick]

Thanks for the heads up !

As I said, take your time, although it would be very nice if you'd keep us posted.

Domo:bow:

[DaCrAzYmOfO]

Wow.

This mod was awesome wheN i DLed it...now that i hear this im likE

zomgah wtf bbq deliciousness

so yeah good job and keep it up man!

[Myrddraal]

Good luck Rinsui :bow:

[Ticu]

Yes, thank you for doing this.

[Ticu]

Alright, I have been given the task to create new maps. Here's what I have so far. The following pics are the ones used for the menu in game.


City of the Monks

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4080/cityofmonks.jpg

Zensen Town

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3352/japtown.jpg

West Krishnapur Hills

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4281/WestKrish.jpg

Frontier Town

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9904/frontiertown.jpg

Ominous Valley

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4136/omvalley.jpg

Arid Farmlands

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9775/frontierfarm.jpg

Yuwan Border Town

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4310/Yuwanbt.jpg

Old Basin

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7729/oldbasin.jpg

The Foothills

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7930/foothills.jpg

Japanese Coast

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1975/japcoast.jpg

Japanese River

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6627/japriver.jpg

Monk Island Countryside

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/740/monkcountry.jpg

Monk Hills

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9863/monkhills.jpg

Krishnapur Forest

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5286/krishnapurforest.jpg

Krishnapur Plains

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4291/krishnapurplains.jpg

Woods of the Far East

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/160/wotfe.jpg

Imperial Countryside

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8100/impcountry.jpg

The Gobi

https://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4129/gobi1ko3.jpg

The Demon Realm

https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4254/demonrealmiz5.jpg

Himalayan Pass

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9574/himpass.jpg

Taiwanese Coast

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7125/TaiwaneseCoast.jpg

Korean Fields

https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1572/koreanfields.jpg

[Ticu]

Here are some piccies!

https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4205/japbsdemonjl5.jpg
https://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8462/0000wo8.jpg
https://img401.imageshack.us/img401/987/0002id0.jpg
https://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2381/0005yi9.jpg
https://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4331/0008yg5.jpg
https://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6900/0009no0.jpg
https://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1278/0011hm6.jpg

And a funny glitch:
https://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3582/funnyglitchbd2.jpg