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TheWingedVictory
05-18-2005, 06:57
When I was playing the scots in VI, in this battle (I forgot cuz it was way too long ago) I was facing the saxons. :help: I only had like less than 500 highlanders and a really small amount of cavalry units against thousands and thousands of saxon army with alot of huscarles and all those elite units. It was on a very hilly terrain and I placed my 100 archers up on the front and fired on the coming saxons until they came close enough that I sent divisions of highlanders one by one. They continued to come on and on and on with reinforcement, until it was too much so I back up on a hill on the other side of the map. By this time the kill ratio scale indicated almost all green. :charge: :charge: :charge: I relized I had some reserve cavalry as reinforceemtn and brought them in. But the saxons kept coming and coming and coming, and I was surprised how much morale my troops had because they were reduced to a really small band of units with fighting the saxons everylast one of them :duel: :duel: :duel: . It ws truly amazing, and I regret not taking pictures of it. The whole map was covered with red units (saxon color) and few blues on some spot.

PittBull260
05-18-2005, 19:45
I remember this crazy battle that I had while playing as the Turks. I expanded into constantinople, and the Russians were the faction with the largest armies, they were neighboring me


I had a good 7 star general in constantinople, with a little more than a 1000 men, it was Janissary Heavy infantry (my favorite) and Futowwas and Ghulam Cavalrly

the Russians attacked me with a huge over 7000 men army, they were mostly with valour 1-2. Mine were all 3

The russians charged at me, I had my horsemen ready to flank, and my infantry ready to take the blow. The russian's infantry were all stacked together fighting my row of Janissary heavy infantry, just like I wanted, my archers were shooting them like crazy, while they were fighting I sent my horses around them quickly and sourrounded the russians, causing them to rout, but I had another 6000 men to kill, so I knew I had to kill their leader to lower their morale and valour, So i sent my horses straight at him, and BOOM their leader dies.

I think that reduced all the russians valour level to 0-1, while they were routing I put my infantry back in position while my cavalry were killin a few of the routing enemy.

I pretty much did the same thing again and again, wave after wave.
At the end I lost h alf my army but the enemy lost about 5000 men, I loved the battle wish I could do it again :)

unfortunantly tho, the russians sent another 6,000 man army at me, this time I couldnt make it :(

King Bob VI
05-18-2005, 20:13
Prolly my defense in Khazar against the horde as the russians. I don't remember how many troops I had, but after killing the khan, I put my halberds in the woods and shredded any cavalry that entered. After dozens of waves of enemies they finally gave up, and the mongols never owned one square inch of Europe.

mercian billman
05-19-2005, 03:58
My two favorite battles came against the GH, one was during a PBEM with the English, while the other was Total War XL with the Cumans.

My battle with the English took place in Livonia around 1230, the GH was on a rampage threatening to reach the Balctic sea, and outnumbered my English 3:1, and their advantage in cavalry was even greater, but my longbows came through in the end, with help from MS.

The battle with the Cumans was more recent and pitted two armies with similar compositions, except the GH outnumbered me 2:1. The battle took place in Khazar, and pitted my Cuman warriors against GH warriors, Steppe Heavies vs GH Archers, Kazar Royal Guard vs GH Heavies and both armies had Steppe Cavalry serving as light cavalry.

The GH first wave consisted of 8 GH archers and 8 GH heavies (with the Khan) the GH archers moved into position to launch arrows but were hit by my Cuman Warriors, and Steppe heavies, before they could really get a volley going they were reduced to 3/4 strength, eventually attrition got to them, and they retreated allowing their heavies to close in. To counter them I had only 4 heavy cavalry units and 4 Steppe heavies, my other units were obviously no match, and the Cuman warriors were routed before my heavies could go in to save them. The Steppe heavies joined in and fought a desperate battle with the Horde and at one time the Cuman ruler and the Khan were engaged in battle. My Steppe Cavalry were able to manuever around the end and seal off the retreat of the Hordes finest units, but were unable to inflict much damage upon them. Everyone was suffering heavy casualties but the proximity of the rulers was enough to ensure that the men would fight harder than they ever had before.

With a GH relief column on it's way it looked like they might break the trap, until suddenly their Khan was killed. The engaged GH units then attempted to retreat, and succesive waves of were subsequently defeated due to the loss of morale from their rulers death.

Des1014
05-20-2005, 06:12
There was this battle i remebered fondly which is the last stand of my crusade in one of the province against the Egyptian empire.

I had

18 haldbidiers
My 4 star general and his 12 bodyguards (knights)
30 Chivalric man at arms
40 Fedual man at arms

Eygptians

7000 Peasants
500 Alomahads

I knew that there is little chance of survival but decide to meet them on the field nonetheless.

I place my 18 Halbediers in a forest nearby. My chivalric man at arms on a small mound not far away with my 4 star general and his 12 bodyguards (knights) and my 40 Fedual man at arms as the vanguard. I decide to charge them against the enemy in a sucide charge.

The Battle begins and i saw thousands of peasants marching foward( Egytians use a lot of peasantry troops to attack me,maybe they feel they can overwhelmed me with numbers and can keep their elites back)
The peasants march foward shouting egyptian slogans with their white robes and caps, it was quite a sight. I waited as the sea of peasants hit my shore and i charge my 40 fedual men at arms into the large bodies of peasants wanting nothing but death in battle. There was carnage as my fedual men at arms chop at the egytian peasants like mallet against anvil, i rout the first group of peasants only to slam into the next group behind. Heavy fighting broke out, a few regiments of peasants hit my 18 Halbediers in the forest and heavy fighting broke out there too.

2 groups of alomahads with soem peasnats hit my chivalric man at arms on the mound and i rout waves and waves of eygtian men, it was like a bloody last stand. Constantly egytian reinforcements flow in , they had endless supplies of men. My general charge with his knights into the enemy body at least 8 times and fought hard. The whole battle field is littred with huge mounds of egyptian dead. The clock time is running out.. iand i will win.
I saw that i had left 4 haldbiediers int he forest, their dead companions buried under the mound of egytian bodies. My fedual man at arms had disapperared finally in the sea of fresh egytian reinforcements being overwhelmed and cast down and slain by the lowly peasants. Only my general is left,his body guards had left for paradise earlier despite killing more than 50 enemies per person. I still charge my lone general into the fray non-stop till the timer runs out and i won!!! Yes, I won!!!

Only my general and 2 Hadlbadiers and 20 Chivalric man at arms was left and we left around 3500 egytian dead on the field. It was sweet victory.

ShadowMagnet
05-20-2005, 19:24
I reckon mine was a bit of a cheat really.
I invaded Ireland from Reget (VI campaign as Vikings) with a 7 star general and around 950 blood-thirsty straight killers. I wouldn't dare call them "men".
My army consisted of 3 units of Joms Vikings, 6 units of Huscarles, 4 archers and 3 units of berserkers. Average valour of my troops was about 3 - 4 with no general bonuses because for some 15 years prior to invasion of Ireland those devils had been on a rampage across the whole of southern England. 15 years of campaigning and slaying peasant revolts (gotta love those!) also gave my general 5 dread, 7 command, butcher, expert attacker, and brave beyond belief traits.
With that bloke in command my troops' valour finally reached 6-7 on average.

All this I pitted against 16.000 (no bull!) Irish infantry, mainly kerns, gallowglasses, dartmen and armoured spearmen.

I had this vision of piles of green-clad corpses littering the battlefield in Ulster. I went to get a fresh tinnie before the greatest battle of the campaign. When I got back in my room it turned out the Irish had retreated only leaving about 750 men behind in the keep.
I pulled out my best soldiers to avoid losing them in the siege and replaced them with some rookie army of 1600 men.
The next turn the Irish attacked Ulster only to retreat again!! :furious3:
For the next 10 years they invaded me with some unreal armies (7000 or so) only to pull back straight away and every time they left some 200 men behind.
Eventually their forces were reduced from appx. 16.000 to a mere 10.000.
Civil war broke out immediately after the keep in Ulster had fallen.

My army of 950 troops completely demoralized their forces and pushed Ireland into civil war without a single arrow fired!

My frustration, as you probably can imagine, was indeed great.

edyzmedieval
05-20-2005, 20:46
Well, I attacked Anjou

British vs Holy Roman Empire

3200 vs 900 men

British: Totally destroyed and routed

I've attacked Anjou to further increase my huge Empire that stretched from France to Muscovy to Kiev to Naples... So, I attacked with my emperor.... I had about 6 units of Teutonic Knights(every unit in my whole army had swords and also armour gold ~D ) and Order Foot Soldiers and Royal Knights and 1 unit of Feudal Fot Knights

So, I've sent my cavalry in a full charge.... Especially the emperor killed a lot (550 men) that gave him a +1 valour(he had 7 valour) and so I've routed the whole army.....They had tons of archers and Hobilars...They also had Fyrdmen but they were useless.....

Patron
05-21-2005, 12:57
I had just crusaded across North Africa, wiping out the Almohads and taking Egypt and I sent some troops and ex-crusaders back into North Africa to clean up. It was alright for a few years, the hardy desert populace were slowly converting to christianity, I was building gold mines and the war had gone further east, when suddenly a storm sunk a barque in the Barbary Coast, immediately pirates and vagabonds took advantage of the situation, cutting off contact with the English government. Before contact was remade 360 archers with a +3 armour bonus and 1 or 2 valour points and 30 knights templar had to face off an almohad reappearance.

The Almohad army consisted of 16 or so units of archers and desert archers, 12 units of urban milita, a unit of ghulam bodyguards and 5 units of ballistas. Their king had a command rating of 1 and my knights templar had a command rating of 3, so I had quite an advantage, though I was heavily outnumberred.

I found a nice dune out of ballista range from the enemy's starting position and arranged my archers on the slope in a dispersed formation so they all shoot with aimed shots and kept my knights templar with them to provide melee support. The Almohads began their attack in a sandstorm, but it died down quickly to reveal a hoarde of roaring peasants disillusioned by the sudden collapse of their ancient dynasty. The archers were in front in closed formation and the urban militia behind with the Almohad king, most of them were left behind to make room for the ballistas, there must have been around 7 archers and 3 urban militia.

The entire army was attempting to run onto part of the dune I was not protecting, so I gallopped my knights templar about 300 metres to the unprotected slope and began marching my archers over. This seemed to confuse the Almohads, whom decided to stop and reform a line, which just happenned to be along the bottom of the dune, taking Napolean's famous quote to heart, I kept my templars perfectly still, whilst I got out my bull whip and began screaming at my archers to get into a tight 5 rank formation and begin firing away at their urban milita and ghulam bodyguards. I lost several of my templar knights to archer fire during this maneuver, but their sacrficie allowed me the pleasure of seeing 50 urban milita perishing each archer volley. 2 volleys later from all archers and my templar knights auto-charged a group of urban militia and I quickly orderred all of my archers to fire apon the ghulam bodyguards, wiping all 20 of them out pretty quickly. The urban militia fleed, then the enemy archers fled as my archers fired apon them. My archers had been taking arrows from them for quite a while now whilst they slaughterred the Almohad's urban militia (regular urban milita), but they had remained alive thanks to their +3 armour bonus.

I stayed on the hill and the enemy army regrouped, attacked, were slaughterred, fled, called in reinforcements, attacked again, were slaughterred again, fled quicker than last time, attacked again, were slaughterred for a 3rd time, fled, regrouped, called in the remainder of their reinforcements, attacked, caused me to run out of arrows and cause my 10 remaining knights templar to become exhausted, engaged in melee with me, but were too few, demoralised and unvalourous to win, fled, lured me into ballista range causing my knights templar to finally run from the battle field, lost their ballista to my archers and lost the battle.

Most of my archers were intact after that, my knights templar had a valour of 7 and my archers all gained valour levels 3 to 4.

TheWingedVictory
05-27-2005, 05:51
The peasants march foward shouting egyptian slogans with their white robes and caps, it was quite a sight.

Slogans? the only thing I hear when a grand army marches is the foot steps and weapon carrying, not chanting and shouting. How do you get to hear that?

Dub
05-27-2005, 07:40
Medieval TW XL mod. PLaying as Bulgarians...slowly expanding west and north after taking COnstantinople as southeast bottle-neck defensive spot. Bumped into a number of French-held provinces as I moved into Franconia and Switzerland and Venice and other areas...and made an alliance with them. Expanded into the Russian/Asian steppes...and got backstabbed by the miserable French. Turns out they owned the entire western side of the map...and sent in forces to almost all of my recently acquired provinces in the west. They also sent in a force to Pomerania (I already held Saxony) via amphibious landing: 12,000 man force against my 1100 defenders. Their valour was on average 2 or 3; mine was 4 or 5 due to my stellar general. My force consisted of mainly halberdiers and heavy infantry and assorted bulgarian cav units (including one prince and his escort). The French sent their usual well-balanced assortment of spear, norman infantry, royal knights, and hordes of crossbows and arbalesters... Time and time and time again they came across the horizon after I had killed the initial wave almost to a man... Their general gone, they still kept coming...and routing...and coming back... I was sure my exhausted troops would finally break...but they held on... The total time for the battle was nearly three hours... Epilogue: the French sent 16,000 men two turns later: I auto-calced (after saving, cuz I didn't have time) and lost...and forgot to save the game later...so I lost the province. Now they've got 16,000 men behind my front lines and I fear I'm sunk.

Matty
05-27-2005, 09:04
arranged my archers on the slope in a dispersed formation so they all shoot with aimed shots

This makes a difference to the amount of damage they do? I thought loose formation just made them more difficult to hit????

MuseRulez
05-27-2005, 11:43
This makes a difference to the amount of damage they do? I thought loose formation just made them more difficult to hit????

It's true that they are more difficult to hit, but their damage isn't increased. They are just more accurate because more men can see the target. Just read Froggy's unit guide, it's all explained in there.

Matty
05-30-2005, 09:02
Thanks.

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
05-30-2005, 23:45
I once fought a battle with around 1500 men, mainly longbows and spearmen sergents with some crossbows and some halbards on the flanks. The attacking army was Egyption, mainly light cav and horse archers with some Saracen Infantry thrown in.

They had about 4500 men, I creamed them with archers, I had some spare so when they ran out of arrows I sent them home and brought on the fresh guys with full quivers. When they got too close I crushed them with my archers and then used my one unit of Templar Knights for the counter charge through my own lines.

The first three waves or so got slaughtered, after that my armoured troops really started to cook but I still managed to kill about 3000 of them with about 750 casualties, most of which were in the final do or die meat grinder.