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Coldfish
06-30-2005, 01:48
I`m playing Julii....and i have imperial palaces,urban barracks,and colisseums too....why can`t I train velite gladiators or mirmillo gladiators ??...only samnite gladiators i can.

thanks ~:cheers:

professorspatula
06-30-2005, 01:56
Each Roman faction gets 1 type of Gladiator to build and that's your lot matey. But forget those overpaid slaves - stick with peasants!

Coldfish
06-30-2005, 02:01
thanks :bow: ....i thought i could train all 3 of them

Muska Burnt
06-30-2005, 02:53
i dont recruit the any gladiators i just stick with urban cohort

pezhetairoi
06-30-2005, 05:13
But in the early stages of the game, before Marians, gladiators are yumyum.

Productivity
06-30-2005, 06:02
i dont recruit the any gladiators i just stick with urban cohort

Gladiators are useful, they (along iwth Arcani) are the only two hit point units that the romans can train. 2 hit point units are extrememly useful under some circumstances.

player1
06-30-2005, 08:26
Like battles on stone walls...


They are also resistant of cavalry charge due to 2HP.

Dutch_guy
06-30-2005, 10:49
And velite glads have that really good bonus against ele's and chariots.

:balloon2:

Garvanko
06-30-2005, 11:34
You'll never need Gladiators if you have Urban Cohorts.

Dutch_guy
06-30-2005, 12:11
well you can get velite and samnite glads before you can get urbans - velite only need an arena and samnites with an amphitheater , so if you like gladiators you can use them far before you can built urbans, only the mirmillo glads are really overshadowed by the urbans , since you can only get mirmillo's once you built a colosseum.

I agree though I like urbans better and use them more ( well not anymore with RTR ~;) ) glads make a welcome edition to any army.

:balloon2:

Productivity
06-30-2005, 13:34
You'll never need Gladiators if you have Urban Cohorts.

Didn't we just cover this? I'll accept this when you show me the Urban Cohort that has two hit points...

Lancome
06-30-2005, 14:13
Like some dude above me said, Glads are very good when attacking walls. Well, except for the Velite Glads They are just useful for their spears.

master of the puppets
06-30-2005, 15:36
the only time i use gladiators is in mass. if i don't have any urbans but 4 cities with colleseums then i built 4 gladiators. and in battle i mass them all in a solid block and charge them twards the most steadfast enemies, the tear threw um really well.

Mahrabals apprentice
06-30-2005, 15:52
I have ever bothered using glads in the game, i prefer my legions. I have only used them in custom battles where they are a decent flanking force.

Marmillo from behind : )

If i ever played as brutii i would used velite though, i just can't deal with chariots and they might be the answer i was looking for

Nelson
06-30-2005, 16:20
I build a gladiator unit in big cities just because they were there historically. They can defend the city and put down rebels. I seldom campaign with them but they do add color.

Come Together
06-30-2005, 20:24
Gladiator's also seem to be great cushions to ranged attacks. Their high armor and 2 hp make them rather good at survival, and all archers seem to target them. Not to mention their huge moral always seems to keep them in the battle.

Mahrabals apprentice
06-30-2005, 22:57
that seems like a waste of good gladiators to me ~:confused:

Lancome
07-01-2005, 01:02
that seems like a waste of good gladiators to me ~:confused:

You can always make New glad's from Captures soldiers.

pezhetairoi
07-01-2005, 02:46
...you can? Or was that a joke :-P

Anyway. Gladiators are good in cities because of their loose order, their 2 HP and their awesome fighting skills. (We're talking pre-Marian here.) They're beyond anything the Hastati or Principes can give you. I always take along a unit or two of gladiators of whatever Roman faction I am, and I use them liberally.

antisocialmunky
07-01-2005, 03:58
I wonder how they do against other 2HP units like Bull Warriors and Spartans, not too well I would imagine.

xemitg
07-01-2005, 04:53
I wonder how they do against other 2HP units like Bull Warriors and Spartans, not too well I would imagine.

Don't underestimate gladiators.

Marquis of Roland
07-01-2005, 16:37
If I remember correctly, someone said that if you can bribe another Roman factions gladiators to your side and they won't disband.

bubbanator
07-01-2005, 16:53
I find gladiators very useful in taking any city.

In a custom battle with wooden walls:

break the wall however you please, send in one group of fully upgraded gladiators followed by 2 groups of fully upgraded urban cohorts, followed by most of your other ground troops. Through another hole in the wall, you send in your cavalry and break your enemy.

I must leave for the next week so I will finish my thoughts later...