Prescott to pay council tax shock horror!!!!!

[InsaneApache]

Seems that ol' 'two jabs' has been leaching off all us working class folks. This is why I despise the Labour party in the UK. Hypocrites one and all. Sucking the lifeblood from the working classes.

Thumper (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1975081,00.html)


The report has emerged as Prescott comes under increasing pressure to start paying council tax on his grace and favour government apartment in Admiralty House, London. The Sunday Times revealed last month that Prescott was not required to pay council tax out of his own pocket on any of his three homes.

Ladies and Gentlemen I present the modern face of socialism. This is the same man who runs two top end Jaguar (http://www.jaguar.co.uk/uk/en/vehicles/xk/overview/Introduction.htm?route=_uk_en_home@__link__ContextLink_4_1) cars. IIRC several ex-Ministers are still living in the lap of luxury, curtesy of moi and my fellow tax payers.

At the risk of being labelled a 'mocker', let's see the left square this circle.

[Lentonius]

the same socialist people who vote for these bigots then call us hypocrits and bigots because we dont want to spend our tax money to give a lazy scrounger more of the latest plasma tv's and hi-fi's for not getting off his arse and working like the rest of us...

to be honest there is no room for the native law-abiding british hetrosexual working class taxpayer in his own country:no:

[Tribesman]

At the risk of being labelled a 'mocker', let's see the left square this circle.

If he was a Tory would he still get the same exemptions on the Tax ?
So what are you on about ?

IIRC several ex-Ministers are still living in the lap of luxury, curtesy of moi and my fellow tax payers.

I wonder how much some complete idiot like IDS or Haig are still leeching off the taxpayer .
This is why I despise the Labour party in the UK. Hypocrites one and all.
The hypocricy is your own , as this applies to government officials of all parties , why do you only focus on Labour ?
I wonder how much of your tax money is being taken by a criminal like Archer ?:idea2:

[Red Peasant]

Gee, Tory Boys pontificating about political ethics, whatever next?

:laugh4:

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

because we dont want to spend our tax money to give a lazy scrounger more of the latest plasma tv's and hi-fi's for not getting off his arse and working like the rest of us...

I don't think you've ever actually tried living on the dole.

Besides that, it always amuses me when people complain about supposed benefit fraud, which really amounts to peanuts in the grand scheme of things, whilst simultaneously ignoring the much greater waste of tax payers money from corporate crime, tax evasion, etc.

Unemployed people and single mothers are easier targets, I suppose.

[InsaneApache]

If he was a Tory would he still get the same exemptions on the Tax ?
So what are you on about ?

Hmm...something to do with his political ideology I suspect. The Tories believe in meritocracy whilst these 'socialists' believe in re-distribution of wealth. So before characters like Prescott start sermonizing, perhaps they should practice what they preach. Hypocrite.


Gee, Tory Boys pontificating about political ethics, whatever next?

So in your view I'm not allowed one? Or is it that mine isn't as relevant? Nice dogma Labour Boys.

[Lentonius]

you see,insane apache, these labour kids here view the word as it was sixty years ago...


Basically, all those years ago, tories then were arrogant bigots, and the labour party good socialists.

And whenever we say what the country is like, or express an opinion that is in any way shape or form expressing one's will to express democracy and or freedom of speech and distrobution of one's taxes, the best the labour voters can come up with is that we the tories were bigots in the past...

basically insane apache, you are right,

Labour believe more about equality than keeping what you've earned rightfully, and yet people like Prescott have three manor houses and more Jaguars...

its ludicrous, but if a tory voter states that, its being selfish and hypocritical...

[Spetulhu]

I've heard about another country where the two biggest political parties think the other is utterly corrupt. Whatever the other side comes up with is denounced as an attack on their rivals, no matter how sensible it would seem.

[Marcellus]

At the risk of being labelled a 'mocker', let's see the left square this circle.

John Prescott's a bit of an idiot.

Just because those on the left have leftish opinions, don't think that they support all politicians on the left (especially not New Labour ones).

[Tribesman]

The Tories believe in meritocracy whilst these 'socialists' believe in re-distribution of wealth.
Since when has new Labour been Socialist ?
The Tories believe in stuffing as much money into their own pockets as they can manage , new Labour is just the same , but with a different name .
So condemn both or condemn neither .

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

John Prescott's a bit of an idiot.


True that.

[Al Khalifah]

The words of a genius flow thus:

Look I’ve got my old pledge card a bit battered and crumpled...we said we’d provide more turches churches teachers...and we have I can remember when people used to say the Japanese are better than us, the Germans are better than us, the French are better than us, well it’s great to be able to say we’re better than them. I think Mr Kennedy, well we all congratulate on his baby, and the Tories are you remembering what I’m remembering boom and bust negative equity remember; Mr Howard I mean are you thinking what I’m thinking I’m remembering it’s all a bit wonky isn’t it?”

Still, I quite like him because he's a Northern politician and he is firmly at the left of New Labour. A lot of criticism made of him is blown out of all proportion. Many MPs who have residences in the North are allowed to take tax-empt second homes in the capital for obvious reasons. The people who criticise him for not taking public transport despite being an the advocate of public transport himself are clearly not thinking straight. You want the deputy commander-in-chief of the United Kingdom, one of the most powerful nations in the world to take the bus to work everyday? Why don't you just paint a bullseye on his head?

[Slyspy]

Oh please, can we? Pleeeeeease!

[InsaneApache]

Well it's that big (the Prescott bonce) it would be hard to miss.

[English assassin]

The Tories believe in stuffing as much money into their own pockets as they can manage

No, we don't. We don't even believe that allowing people to stuff as much money in their pockets as they can manage is a necessary consequence of an economic system which delivers the greatest wealth to society overall, although that would be a marginally less outrageous misrepresentation of the basic right of centre economic view.

Even if we did, this would be preferable, IMHO, to believing that you have the right to ram your hands in someone else's pocket and take out all the money that they worked to earn.

[Just A Girl]

Bring Back Maggi Thatcher And Pole Tax!!

P.s

For those who dont know.

Maggi thatcher brought in a new tax called poll tax.
It was a Killer of a tax.
Basically its the council tax, except that instead of paying a tax on the house, Every individual in the house had to pay the same ammount.

Then they came allong and "abolished poll tax"
well they just changed its name and the payment method a little.


P.P.S

people who claim benafits Mostly woprk for a great deal of their lifes and Then through redudnacy's, Illnesses, or just lack of work in the area are forced To claim Job seekers allowance,

Yes Its called JOB SEEKERS allowance.
Aslong as Your ACTIVLY looking for work you get money.
If your not trying They stop your money. Simple as that.

Theres 2 JOB seekers allowance, "Income based" And "Contribution based"

People who Havent woked claim "income based"
They get the MINIMal amount of money the gov deems they need to live.

People who Work most of the time and then haft to stop in the winter exetera Claim,
"Contribution based" This means they are allocated money depending on the amount of taxes they payed so far.

There are other benafits which are given for other reason
Severe hard ship allowance is given to the homless.

Incapasaty benafit is given to the sick.

And each have there own set of rules.

And the chances are if you combine the "scroungers" together,
they pay more tax in the months they do work than you and yor family can scrape together in a life time,
becous usualy there spesialist jobs.
That can only be done a few months of the year Which also Pay And get Taxed Much more higly.

So dont talk about "Scroungers" Untill you have a clue what your on about.

[Red Peasant]

Bring Back Maggi Thatcher And Pole Tax!!

Maggi thatcer brought in a new tax called poll tax.
It was a Killer of a tax.
Basically its the council tax, except that instead of paying 4 the house, Every individual in the house had to pay the same ammount.

Then they came allong and "abolished poll tax"
well they just changed its name and the payment method a little.


What have the Poles ever done to you! :laugh4:

The Poll Tax was a 'head' tax that almost nobody wanted, Tory or Labour. With its demise, the method of local taxation reverted to the old system of taxation of the whole household, albeit with a new name. It is not a Poll Tax, under that name or any other, however unpopular it may be.

[Lentonius]

i find it funny when the best labour 'fanatics' can come up with as a dig is that we're all snobs in our manor houses stuffing money up our pockets :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:


i for one am working class and like the money i give to tax to be spent not on people who leech money because they are too lazy to get off their arses and work...

[Lentonius]

ps, poll tax was a logical idea but badly implemented at the wrong time...

[Tribesman]

Even if we did, this would be preferable, IMHO, to believing that you have the right to ram your hands in someone else's pocket and take out all the money that they worked to earn.

Yeah Right EA , it wasn't tax payers money that Maggies minions were robbing blind ~:rolleyes:


ps, poll tax was a logical idea but badly implemented at the wrong time...
Logical ???? replace a property service tax with an individual tax so the person with three big houses getting services pays the same as each of 3 people living in one room of a house .:stupido2:
PS . The poll tax was the 14th attempt during Maggies term to reform the Rates , and by far the worst . The legacy of its failures are one of the main reasons you lot over there are getting so screwed with the Council tax increases now .

[InsaneApache]

Well the scoundrel has been forced into admitting using taxpayers money to pay his private bills.

I loved this bit...


A total of £3,830.52 in public money has been used since 1997 to pay tax for Mr Prescott's flat at Admiralty House, near London's Trafalgar Square.

Mr Prescott, in charge of council tax, called it "an inadvertent error... based on a genuine misunderstanding".

clicky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4607110.stm)

So the old 'genuine misunderstanding' ploy eh? Wasn't an 81 year old pensioner thrown into gaol last autumn because she didn't pay her council tax?

Still as we are now aware, it's one rule for Labour and another for the rest of us. Don't do as I do, do as I say and don't argue, 'cos we know best. Now shut up and go away until the next election.

Bloody disgraceful

[Marcellus]

At least he's planning on paying it back. Now that the story is in the open. Nice principles there.

[InsaneApache]

At least he's planning on paying it back. Now that the story is in the open. Nice principles there.

Yes indeed. That's up there with Ms. Ruth Kelly (part-time Elvis impersonator :laugh4: ) saying that decisions about pederasts given jobs by her ministry should take the Minister out of the loop, therefore eliminating in a trice any chance of blame heading their way.

like I said, a bloody disgrace.