Is this a monster in Lake Champlain?

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1648547

I have a keen interest in Crypto-Zoology and have long heard and read of tales of water-horses and lake monsters. This film is interesting. The wakes don't convince of much but there is definetly something under the water, something at least serpentine looking, almost snake like. It is not a sturgeon or a eel thats for sure. Whatever it is it is moving, its not a log and it can certainly put a good point of something snake like in Lake Champlain. But is it Champ? We probabaly won't know

[Devastatin Dave]

Interesting stuff. The guys did say that filmed this they were using a digital camera so the focus was on the water and not what was underneath. They said that they could see something long and serpentine in shape. This is betond cool!!!:2thumbsup:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

They named it Champ?

[master of the puppets]

Champ Champlain...duh

any way, AWSOME, i hope it starts eating people :croc:, if not i just want to see it caught so i can say that there may be some cool stuff on earth that humanity has'nt destroyed. naturally as soon as its caught it will be auctioned off and eaten but then at least we can keep searching for the lock ness munster.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

how big is this lake? to support an entire species you would need a stable food source in sufficient quantity for a creature of this size, you couln't have just one or even just one family, as inbreeding and the ocasional bad season or calamity would have wiped them out by now. You would need a rather large number to sustain the species and if there was a large number (say 10+ at least) there would probably have been more sightings. Is there any history of such creatures in local native american legends? that would be a good indicator as they could be a species that has declined recently and so that would explain the small number of individuals. also are there any other large aquatic andimals in the area if you can get a whale in the thames, what other lost sea creatures could end up there?

[BDC]

Random sea creatures that end up in lakes die, due to osmosis. Eventually they suck up too much water and explode.

[Devastatin Dave]

BM, the Indaians in that area have many legends involving Champ. They would even bring an animal sacrifice to cross the river back in the past. I have an easier time believing in ocean bound large unfounded species, but lake "monters" are a little herder to believe. Its possible I guess, but not probable.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

''Random sea creatures that end up in lakes die, due to osmosis. Eventually they suck up too much water and explode.''

i didn't think of that, what about a freshwater species?

well if there are well known legends then it could be an over active imagination (like with dragons) or a genuine but rare animal (like the giant squid)

[Trajen the 1st]

There's a lake in Africa that has many sea-like life in in but it has never been apart of the ocean, it just filled up with water and Animals wandered in and over the millionnia became very much like ocean animals.:book: I wouldint deny that a simular event happend with lake Champlian only maybe this guy was the only species that has survived or was able to survive in the cold climate. I think its a snake TBH, I mean it looks like a snake in the video and its got quite a good food supply with all those fish in there with it so why not? :juggle2:

[Uesugi Kenshin]

They named it Champ?

How dare you insult us!!! (Vermonters) /jk
Lake monsters don't seem to get great names, Nessy anyone?

BTW BM it is a pretty big lake, I'd guess that it is at least the size of Loch Ness if that helps at all. Go to a map of the US and check out VT's Nortyh-Western side, that is where the lake is, and that may give you an idea of how big it is.

I've been to Lake Champlain, I never saw Champ, and doubt he exists, but there have been legends about it for quite some time so you never know there might be something to it.

[Byzantine Mercenary]

well off what everyone has said so far it is probably a snake or large fish, it sounds like this lake is big enough for a larger animal but there would be more evidence if there was something more there

[Reverend Joe]

Random sea creatures that end up in lakes die, due to osmosis. Eventually they suck up too much water and explode.
Well, they don't necessarily explode, unless the water is really pure... usually, they just die because the pH levels of their body are thrown completely out of whack, and their metabolism shuts down.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Random sea creatures that end up in lakes die, due to osmosis. Eventually they suck up too much water and explode.

Many sea creatures can control the flow of liquid in and out of their bodies, and so wouldn't helplessly bloat when in freshwater (look at salmon, they're born in freshwater, live in the sea for years, then come back to freshwater again).

Crazed Rabbit

[Goofball]

or are you just happy to see me?

[Fragony]

I prefer it being the truth. Not enough myth nowadays.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

How dare you insult us!!! (Vermonters) /jk
Lake monsters don't seem to get great names, Nessy anyone?


Nessy is pretty bad, but at least The Loch Ness Monster sounds threatening.


or are you just happy to see me?

LOL

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Nessy is pretty bad, but at least The Loch Ness Monster sounds threatening.


At least he doesn't sound like some inbred nobleman!
~D

Or wait is Champ a she?
An it?
:gah2:

Would someone mind going to Lake Champlain and asking him/her/it so this great mystery can be resolved? I have homework....

[Divinus Arma]

Option One: Drain the lake.

https://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6388/lakechamplainha5gq.png (https://imageshack.us)

Option Two: Cast giant nets as deep as the lake and catch everything inside.

https://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2663/lakechamplainha8vh.png (https://imageshack.us)

Option Three: Set up a line of boats at regular intervals, and using a grid pattern, drop large amounts of underwater explosives every twenty feet or so.

https://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9207/lakechamplainha3ml.png (https://imageshack.us)

Option Four: Crash an oil tanker in the lake. After the oil has coated the surface, set the lake on fire.

https://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1048/lakechamplainha2jz.png (https://imageshack.us)

Option Five: Same as option Three but fire thousands of .50 caliber rounds into the water. The velocity should be fast enough to get to the bottom okay.

https://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1060/lakechamplainha5mc.png (https://imageshack.us)

Option Six: Fill the lake with thousands and thousands of tons of salt, simultaneously killing everything and causing it all to float to the surface.

https://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3162/lakechamplainha6gv.png (https://imageshack.us)

Option Seven: Nuke the lake with a bunker buster. Detonate at fifty fathoms.

https://img238.imageshack.us/img238/2816/lakechamplainha9ja.png (https://imageshack.us)

Option Eight: Explore the lake with a submarine. A submarine equipped with underwater laser beams and .50 caliber machine guns.

ya right. I'm not drawing this.

Option Nine: Cover the lake with a giant metal dome and turn the lake into a pressure steamer. Set lake to boil.

https://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7508/lakechamplainha9pt.png (https://imageshack.us)

[Ironside]

Option Five: Same as option Three but fire thousands of .50 caliber rounds into the water. The velocity should be fast enough to get to the bottom okay.


Actually, the bullets will be destroyed by the impact with the water, due to thier high velocity. And lower speed bullets won't travel to the bottom with any velocity worth mentioning. :book:

[Divinus Arma]

Actually, the bullets will be destroyed by the impact with the water, due to thier high velocity. And lower speed bullets won't travel to the bottom with any velocity worth mentioning. :book:

If you think that's a problem, try finding a hand large enough to hold the super-size salt shaker we need for option six!

[Byzantine Mercenary]

maybee you could use a large animal to hold the salt shaker?, like say a sea monster? yeah! so all we need to find (and kill) champ is a giant sea monster :laugh4: :wall: