View Full Version : JFK Reloaded
Mikeus Caesar
02-25-2006, 02:28
I was wondering, has anyone played this marvellous free game? It's a simulation where you play Lee Harvey Oswald, and have to recreate the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I just downloaded it, it's great fun to kill the driver of JFK's limo so it crashes and kills everyone.
EDIT: Website: http://www.jfkreloaded.tk/
Cool! Sounds as good as that Kick the Cripple game but not quite as much fun as Join the KKK Today!
Mikeus Caesar
02-25-2006, 03:01
Somehow, i don't think you quite support this game...but it does help prove that there was a second shooter, as it's impossible to recreate it the way Oswald supposedly did. It really is quite an educational and good game. Pretty surprising graphics, considering how it's a 21MB game.
JFK gets shot. Don't look if you dislike controversial games/think you're too young.
http://xs69.xs.to/pics/06086/JFKreload1.JPG
EDIT: You have to give me credit here for an amzing shot. In an attempt to make it as realistic as possible and injure the governor, i aimed for him, only to shoot the FBI agent sitting in front of him in the head. The bullet went through his head and hit the Stetson hat the governor was holding, sending it flying out of his hands without actually injuring the governor.
Mongoose
02-25-2006, 03:14
I don't know...couldn't we be doing something positive for humanity, like a driving sim where you get to run over Tim Allen?
Reverend Joe
02-25-2006, 04:32
Seems a little twisted... so what's next, an MLK assassination game? :inquisitive:
What about FlightSimulator 2006: TwinTower-Edition....? :inquisitive:
Mikeus Caesar
02-26-2006, 00:37
You people are just taking this game for face value, thinking 'ZOMG! Naughty tasteless game where you kilz teh prezidentz!! Oh noes!' rather than looking at the historical value behind this. It helps you show that it might not have been Oswald behind the shootings, and helps teach kids about the incident, or at least inspire them to research it. It sure did with me.
Either that, or you're accounts have been hacked by some anti-video game bigot.
Reverend Joe
02-26-2006, 00:54
There's a fine line between shooting up random civilians in Grand Theft Auto and recreating an assassination. Not just any assassination, either- an assassination that changed the course of history for the worse.
And don't be so fucking condascending. If it wasn't Oswald, then why the hell are you acting out the supposed role of Oswald? Hell, I don't believe Oswald did it, either, but this is grotesque.
this is grotesque.
hear, hear!
Mikeus Caesar
02-26-2006, 01:07
And don't be so fucking condascending. If it wasn't Oswald, then why the hell are you acting out the supposed role of Oswald? Hell, I don't believe Oswald did it, either, but this is grotesque.
You are playing the supposed role of Oswald to show that if he really did it, it would have been amazingly difficult, thus proving that he didn't do it, unless he could bend the laws of physics.
And don't swear, you naughty naughty boy! ~;)
Strike For The South
02-26-2006, 03:26
You are playing the supposed role of Oswald to show that if he really did it, it would have been amazingly difficult, thus proving that he didn't do it, unless he could bend the laws of physics.
And don't swear, you naughty naughty boy! ~;)
like this game has been tested for the physics of a bullet and taken into account Oswald was a marine sniper Imean MY GAWD :mellow:
Samurai Waki
02-26-2006, 06:19
I still think Oswald did it, but for what reasons remain uncertain. BTW I find this game to be in very bad taste IMO.
I got it. It's fun and incredibly difficult, but mostly the second one because of the first one. Recreating the assassination is tough.
Everyone, chill out.
It helps you show that it might not have been Oswald behind the shootings, and helps teach kids about the incident, or at least inspire them to research it.
Yes, his brain is flying around and stuffs and you talk about....KIDS???:dizzy2:
Somebody Else
02-26-2006, 20:29
Not just any assassination, either- an assassination that changed the course of history for the worse.
Have you never seen that Red Dwarf episode? The one with time-travel.
They persuade JFK to go back in time and space to the grassy knoll
Mikeus Caesar
02-26-2006, 21:24
I got it. It's fun and incredibly difficult, but mostly the second one because of the first one. Recreating the assassination is tough.
Everyone, chill out.
Hurrah, someone on my side!
I found out something yesterday that is incredibly disturbing but funny. Set the motorcade behaviour to chaotic, then take potshots at the drivers of cars. Bodies and cars flying everywhere. An absolutely bizarre way to twist history...
The Blind King of Bohemia
02-26-2006, 21:47
If the game is good i'll give it ago. As far as games are concerned i couldn't care less about the content as long as it is good. Playing black at the mo, then Bully coming out soon and JFK sounds interesting. Its only a game lads, i wouldn't get that bothered about it. The day i get my nuts in a tangle over a game is the day flying elephants mount flying pigs in the sky.
Well, the assassination happened before I was born, but there is still something iconic to me about the tragedy. I can't even think about it without my stomach sinking in despair. What a messed up world. :no:
There's a fine line between shooting up random civilians in Grand Theft Auto and recreating an assassination. Not just any assassination, either- an assassination that changed the course of history for the worse.
That's funny, defending a game that allows you wreak havoc and slaughter innocent people whilst chastizing another that lets you go postal on a famous/infamous historical figure. What's the difference? If you can justify one why not the other? Considering how notoriously crooked politicians are you're more likely to kill a 'good' person going postal in a strip mall than on Capitol Hill or in Parliament. Just so you know in Grand Theft Auto 2 there was a mission for the Jamaican Yardies gang that called for you to assassinate the President by driving an explosives laden car up to his motorcade or some such nonsense.
Anyway, I played the JFK game and had a blast with it... for all of 15 minutes. My greatest accomplishment was killing everyone in the car via an unintentional headshot to the driver who upon death, floored the vehicle which proceeded to swerve left across the divider racing up a bank and smashing into a light pole thus flipping the car and throwing or crushing all the occupants. I was cackling like a fiend afterwards. Pity I didn't have FRAPS' movie capture feature enabled, that would have been an all-time in-game download on various games sites.
I guess that look of horror on my Yia yia's face when she found the sign of the beast above my left temple is starting to make sense now...
Mikeus Caesar
02-28-2006, 17:52
That's funny, defending a game that allows you wreak havoc and slaughter innocent people whilst chastizing another that lets you go postal on a famous/infamous historical figure. What's the difference? If you can justify one why not the other? Considering how notoriously crooked politicians are you're more likely to kill a 'good' person going postal in a strip mall than on Capitol Hill or in Parliament. Just so you know in Grand Theft Auto 2 there was a mission for the Jamaican Yardies gang that called for you to assassinate the President by driving an explosives laden car up to his motorcade or some such nonsense.
Anyway, I played the JFK game and had a blast with it... for all of 15 minutes. My greatest accomplishment was killing everyone in the car via an unintentional headshot to the driver who upon death, floored the vehicle which proceeded to swerve left across the divider racing up a bank and smashing into a light pole thus flipping the car and throwing or crushing all the occupants. I was cackling like a fiend afterwards. Pity I didn't have FRAPS' movie capture feature enabled, that would have been an all-time in-game download on various games sites.
I guess that look of horror on my Yia yia's face when she found the sign of the beast above my left temple is starting to make sense now...
Heheh, loved your argument against Zorba. I was going to come up with something similar, but was too lazy.
As for the crash you caused, i created something similar, but the car kept on going across all the grass till it went up a hill and flew the air. Everyone was flung out on landing. In fact, here's a crazy picture of some of the mad things you can do if you set motorcade behaviour to chaotic.
Scratch the pictures, the site where i upload my pictures, xs.to, their servers have gone down. Should be back in a few hours.
King Kurt
03-01-2006, 14:40
The company who developed the game used to be based in our building. I could never understand why there were copies of the Warren report and models of the kennedy limo on their desks whenever I poped in for a chat. Then, about a year ago, I switched on the morning TV news to be greeted with "Furore over computer game" etc - they even had Edward kennedy on the Tv condemming it. The whole idea of the game was to investigate how difficult it was to carry out the actual assasination. The game was not a great commercial sucess I believe - refuting the adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity!!! - but the developers were mainly using it as a trial of web based games as a route to market for independant developers. That side paid off as they already have 1 XBox 360 game on the arcade and another due in a couple of months - but I don't see Microsoft putting JFK up!!!:2thumbsup:
Reverend Joe
03-01-2006, 17:04
That's funny, defending a game that allows you wreak havoc and slaughter innocent people whilst chastizing another that lets you go postal on a famous/infamous historical figure. What's the difference? If you can justify one why not the other? Considering how notoriously crooked politicians are you're more likely to kill a 'good' person going postal in a strip mall than on Capitol Hill or in Parliament. Just so you know in Grand Theft Auto 2 there was a mission for the Jamaican Yardies gang that called for you to assassinate the President by driving an explosives laden car up to his motorcade or some such nonsense.
Grand Theft Auto is pure fantasy. It's a load of crap and nonsense. Those aren't real people you are shooting; they are purely imaginary.
Recreating an assassination, on the other hand, is real. It breaks down the border between video games and the real world. You may as well create a game that recreates a sleepy town in Minnessotta that actually exists, fill iw with the people who actually live there, and let you run around causing havoc and mayhem, killing real people.
If you can't seperate reality and fantasy, you have some very serious mental issues. Same for you, Mikeus.
doc_bean
03-01-2006, 18:38
You may as well create a game that recreates a sleepy town in Minnessotta that actually exists, fill iw with the people who actually live there, and let you run around causing havoc and mayhem, killing real people.
It still wouldn't be real though, if you can't see the difference, maybe you're the one with a problem :inquisitive:
Let's look at another genre: the WWII shooter. Surely it's a recreation of the killing of a ton of germans fighting for their country ? A lot of them are based on real missions and accounts from survivors.
What's the difference ?
EDIT to add: Recreating the assasination might be difficult, but then i don't know the details and how I should recreate it. Killing JFK is pretty easy though.
Reverend Joe
03-02-2006, 03:41
Well, I still think it's sick, and you can't convince me otherwise.
https://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5246/ferrouscranus4sv.jpg
Mongoose
03-02-2006, 04:27
We're not calling for the thread to be closed and for curry to be banned. We're just saying that we will not be palying the game because we find it disturbing, just like you would not want to play a game where you cut off some ones fingers with a butter knife.
Now that I'm done nitpicking, I'll leave this thread, content with the knowledge that I've made the .org a slightly less pleasent place...again.
Kekvit Irae
03-02-2006, 22:09
I vote this thread gets dumped in the backroom
Well, I still think it's sick, and you can't convince me otherwise.
https://img306.imageshack.us/img306/6691/mediumheadinsand2fj.jpg
I wonder if the brainiacs who play "JFK" will buy the sequel about Columbine?
:dizzy2: "Aw cool dude! You get a shotgun and a pistol!"
:shame:
Reverend Joe
03-03-2006, 01:14
https://img306.imageshack.us/img306/6691/mediumheadinsand2fj.jpg
Clearly you missed the point of my handy picture.
Anyway, you changed your name to Gorebag, so you don't count.
~;)
But that is a funny picture.
Clearly you missed the point of my handy picture.
Nah, just piling on.
Reverend Joe
03-03-2006, 03:40
Nah, just piling on.
https://img313.imageshack.us/img313/9153/103018691su.jpg
The Blind King of Bohemia
03-04-2006, 14:45
A very fun game. The carnage you can cause if you time it right is just insane. When the cars crash and you see JFK and the rest of the car fly into the air is very funny. You can't not like this game, its funny and you can't help playing it again and again
Has anyone managed to hit the driver of the bus? I can't seem to do it. I know it would cause havoc but i just keep missing him!:laugh4:
doc_bean
03-05-2006, 23:39
Has anyone managed to hit the driver of the bus? I can't seem to do it. I know it would cause havoc but i just keep missing him!:laugh4:
I just loaded to game to try it. The bus only appears near the end of the game, so after shooting the driver there isn't much time for chaos. First time I shot him the screen almost immediately turned black. I needed the ballistics report to make sure I actually got him. Second attempt: the bus did speed up but just hit the building on its right, again, black screen almost immediately.
I also shot JFK (yet another new game of course) to see if the bus would still show up and it didn't, so I think starting mayhem that way would be pretty hard.
My personal favorite was shooting off the driver the jumps on the back of the JFK limo, he fell off and got run over by the car with all the bodyguards, which also caused the ones on the side to fall off :laugh4:
BTW 2 shots at the bus driver, 2 kills, I didn't realize my sniper skills were so 1337 ! :2thumbsup:
The Blind King of Bohemia
03-06-2006, 00:21
I did manage a shot which killed one of the Bus drivers while he was driving but he grounded to a halt rather than crash
Shaka_Khan
03-12-2006, 12:01
They shouldn't stop the game when the bus enters. Oswald left the scene and hid in a movie theatre. He shot an officer on the way there.
Mikeus Caesar
03-12-2006, 15:12
Grand Theft Auto is pure fantasy. It's a load of crap and nonsense. Those aren't real people you are shooting; they are purely imaginary.
Recreating an assassination, on the other hand, is real. It breaks down the border between video games and the real world. You may as well create a game that recreates a sleepy town in Minnessotta that actually exists, fill iw with the people who actually live there, and let you run around causing havoc and mayhem, killing real people.
You're sounding alot like Jack Thompson there. Games cause young people to go and kill...on what basis do you deduct that playing an assassination game like JFKR would make me lose the distinction between reality and fantasy? What you're described in that second paragraph might as well be the next GTA, thus rendering your argument an oxymoron. I think.
If you can't seperate reality and fantasy, you have some very serious mental issues. Same for you, Mikeus.
I am actually seeing a psychiatrist for various mental health issues, so could we please not touch on that subject thank you.
Ja'chyra
03-13-2006, 09:44
Lighten up dooods, it's a game.
I might try it tonight.
Reverend Joe
03-13-2006, 17:26
You're sounding alot like Jack Thompson there. Games cause young people to go and kill...on what basis do you deduct that playing an assassination game like JFKR would make me lose the distinction between reality and fantasy? What you're described in that second paragraph might as well be the next GTA, thus rendering your argument an oxymoron. I think.
I am actually seeing a psychiatrist for various mental health issues, so could we please not touch on that subject thank you.
Man, I thought we were over this...
And I did not know about that. Sorry.
Catiline
03-13-2006, 17:43
Gents lets try and keep this to a discussion of the merits of the JFK game, and not stray into Jack Thompson territory and personal insults territory. Regardless of real life situations the org isn't the place for amateur psychiatry on other patrons, and comments in that vein could meet with a certain amount of shock and awe.
Reasoned debate: good
Personal debate: bad
Lets leave it with the apologies, and move on
I've played this game, it's a nice time filler on a Friday afternoon at work. Once you've got over the content, which admittedly not being Americamn lacks a good deal of resonance for me any how, it's quite a challenge to get the assassination right.
frogbeastegg
03-13-2006, 22:44
This thread derailed once. I got here when it appeared to have recovered of its own accord, making any action by me unnecessary. I do prefer to be a quiet frog where possible, rather than studding people with hairpins. I wondered about posting a note when this topic was new, but chose not to precisely for this reason. Also the assumption that I would not need to re-iterate the rules.
Now I arrive to find it has derailed again, and appears to be recovering again.
A third time and I will close the topic, regardless of the state it is in when I arrive or how long it takes me to get here.
Discuss the game. If you really must, discuss the morals behind the game, but do so in a polite, reasoned, non-personal way. This is not the backroom. I could play it very strictly and consign any discussion on the morals of a game to the backroom, but I thought in this case I would see how it went rather than using the backroom as a dumping ground. The result so far is not entirely encouraging.
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