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Csargo
02-26-2006, 05:59
Just tell what your favorite band is and what type of music they play.

Mine is Blink 182 and they play Pop/Punk stuff.
Have fun:laugh4:

Strike For The South
02-26-2006, 06:00
lynyrd Skynyrd-southern rock

(although Country is me favorite)

Byzantine Prince
02-26-2006, 06:08
Marilyn Manson.

Alternative metal





NeonGod is probably going to make fun of me for this~:)

GoreBag
02-26-2006, 06:14
Marilyn Manson.

Alternative metal
NeonGod is probably going to make fun of me for this~:)

Well, you can do it yourself, if you want.

Hard to say. I'm listening to a lot of Metalucifer and Negligent Collateral Collapse, but next week, it may be something entirely (as far as metal goes) different.

mercian billman
02-26-2006, 06:22
Better Than Ezra

Alternative Rock

Samurai Waki
02-26-2006, 06:26
Metallica hands down...especially pre-Black Album era, though I still enjoy Most of their stuff up to St. Anger (which I REALLY didn't like at all).

IrishMike
02-26-2006, 07:23
Tie between Led Zeppelin and Rage Against the Machine. I have to loves, I am a torn man.

Beirut
02-26-2006, 13:25
The Frontroom Imagination :sunny:

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Ianofsmeg16
02-26-2006, 14:11
The Frontroom Imagination :sunny:

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What he said.....

Me and Beirut man, we are like, woah, on the same like, level man, i mean, Pink floyd rule man.:bow:

But I also agree with Wakizashi about St Anger, it just isnt good!

Ronin
02-26-2006, 14:46
Queens of the stone age :thrasher:

Reenk Roink
02-26-2006, 16:25
Pearl Jam (especially the early stuff)

They play Music...

InsaneApache
02-26-2006, 16:40
The Stooges.

Along with some VU white light they started a revolution in rock which still endures today.

Viking
02-26-2006, 19:05
Rammstein - Industrial metal, or just industrial.

JimBob
02-26-2006, 19:49
1)The Drive-By Truckers-Southern Rock
2)Roger Clyne and The Peacemakers-Alt-Country Rock
3)The 101ers-Pub Band

The Ben Folds Five-(Punk Rock for Pussies!), Albert King(Blues), Stevie Ray Vaughn(Blues), Yes(Prog), Dream Theater(Prog), Rush(Prog), U.K. Subs(Punk), and Screaching Weasel(Punk) are numbers 4 and 5.

JAG
02-26-2006, 19:53
Iron Maiden.

Heavy ******* metal.

Stars, stars, and only the stars please - Beirut

Craterus
02-26-2006, 22:41
The Ramones - They INVENTED punk rock.

At the moment, I really like Embrace too.

Geoffrey S
02-26-2006, 22:44
Close run between Godspeed You! Black Emperor or Mogwai; since I've seen Mogwai live in a fantastic gig it'd edge towards them.

InsaneApache
02-26-2006, 23:21
The Ramones - They INVENTED punk rock.

At the moment, I really like Embrace too.

May I invite my fellow poster to peruse my post.

Ramones are good. However they didn't 'invent' Punk Rock. I believe that accolade belongs in equal measure to messrs. Lou Reed and Jimmy James Osterberg.

Embrace are ok, if only for the fact they come from my home town. (some of the songs aint bad either)

GoreBag
02-26-2006, 23:32
May I invite my fellow poster to peruse my post.

Ramones are good. However they didn't 'invent' Punk Rock. I believe that accolade belongs in equal measure to messrs. Lou Reed and Jimmy James Osterberg.

I would say that you are mistaken in your belief, sir. Although the above gentlemen had an indisputable influence upon what would be be punk rock, they are certainly not its progenitors.

Kaiser of Arabia
02-27-2006, 00:02
lynyrd Skynyrd-southern rock

(although Country is me favorite)
SFTS!

You stole my favorite band!

JimBob
02-27-2006, 01:25
I would say that you are mistaken in your belief, sir. Although the above gentlemen had an indisputable influence upon what would be be punk rock, they are certainly not its progenitors.
I'm with Gore, The Rammones get credit for inventing Punk. Lou Reed and Jimmy James Osterberg had an impact, then again so did The Crickets

Reverend Joe
02-27-2006, 03:40
Currently I have two favorites, although I expect that to go up to three as soon as I can get ahold of some Floyd LP's:

Creedence Clearwater Revival- they play the best damn 50's and 60's rock and roll you'll ever hear, and some of the best blues.

Jimi Hendrix (more specifically, everything except his Band of Gypsies work): Jimi played... well, Jimi played Jimi. He was really sort of a genre of his own; even though his roots were easily fixed in Blues, noone ever played, or could play quite like him. Part of this was the fact that he also doubled as his own producer, to a certain extent, so what he wanted to be heard was what you heard.

GoreBag
02-27-2006, 03:51
I'm with Gore, The Rammones get credit for inventing Punk.

I didn't say that, either.

Zalmoxis
02-27-2006, 04:33
At the moment I like Gorillaz, Guns N Roses and Foghat.

Gawain of Orkeny
02-27-2006, 06:54
Needless to say

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If you dont know who these guys are and what kind of music to play your out to lunch anyway so dont ask :laugh4:

JimBob
02-27-2006, 06:58
I didn't say that, either.
Then who the hell is it? Who brought everything rogether before the Ramones?

GoreBag
02-27-2006, 07:13
Then who the hell is it? Who brought everything rogether before the Ramones?

I would say that punk would have been nothing if it wasn't for the subculture. The Sex Pistols, Siouxse and the Banshees and the other groups from that scene would have defined punk, for all of their faults, and after the six-month run, punk truly did die.

InsaneApache
02-27-2006, 10:52
I would say that punk would have been nothing if it wasn't for the subculture. The Sex Pistols, Siouxse and the Banshees and the other groups from that scene would have defined punk, for all of their faults, and after the six-month run, punk truly did die.

I saw the Pistols in 1976 at the Lesser Free Trade hall in Manchester and like to think of myself as amongst the first Punk/New wave.

It is true that by the late summer of '77 the thing was dead. IMO the watershed was the Queens Silver Jubilee. 'We mean it man'. I also agree that in the UK the Pistols and to a lesser extent the Damned and the Clash were the motors driving the movement. It was always about more than the music. Attitude was just as important, and don't get me onto the clothes we wore. The number of times the coppers stopped me just because I wore a shirt with 'prison' arrows on it!!!:laugh4:

Anyway back OT.

I can see how the Ramones would be a candidate for starting the US style of Punk. Indeed one of the first times I heard the word punk* (*a 16th century prostitute or a peice of driftwood haha) was in an NME article about Johnny, Joey, Dee Dee.

However, the case is they were following in the footsteps of other bands 3 chords tricks, or even 2 chords in Carbona not Glue. :2thumbsup:

Proto punk bands such as the Stooges, MC5, the Velvet Underground, New York Dolls all paved the way for the mid 70's explosion we now call punk rock. In particular Lou Reed and Iggy Pop (little jimmy james) are quite rightly accorded the accolade of 'godfathers of punk'.

Their legacy lives on. No more boring old fart guitar solos.*eyes Pink Floyd* Before punk, most axemen were preening, posturing onanists, these days they are just onanists. :laugh4:

They (Reed and Pop) stripped all the pretentiousness from rock and took it back to it's roots.

Beirut
02-27-2006, 13:27
Their legacy lives on. No more boring old fart guitar solos.*eyes Pink Floyd*


:brood:

Hmm, Banned for Life? 3000 Warning Points? Forced to spend a weekend listening to Kaiser and SFTS discussing the benefits of the Sturmgewer in modern day tactical situations?

I'll think of something.

matteus the inbred
02-27-2006, 13:30
Arcade Fire, Canadian indie rock.

In a Dire Straits mood as well though. I like huge guitar solos, like Telegraph Road...

InsaneApache
02-27-2006, 14:03
:brood:

Hmm, Banned for Life? 3000 Warning Points? Forced to spend a weekend listening to Kaiser and SFTS discussing the benefits of the Sturmgewer in modern day tactical situations?

I'll think of something.

hehe....:2thumbsup:

Fragony
02-27-2006, 17:39
Hmmm, a tie between Radiohead and Lamb methinks.

Craterus
02-27-2006, 17:44
I wouldn't say punk "truly died" because the Ramones were still making music all through the 80s.

This is from the Rocket to Russia sleeve (I paraphrased for some):


The Ramones were about to go on tour, and they had their breakthrough album, Rocket to Russia, ready to go when Joey had to be rushed to hospital with second and third degree burns (he used the steam from a tea kettle to clear his airways before a show) and the tour had to be cancelled.

While Joey was recuperting in hospital, the Sex Pistols burst onto the punk scene and became the quintessential punk band in the world. Safety pins, razor blades, chopped hair-cuts, snarling, vomiting - everything that had nothing to do with the Ramones was suddenly in vogue, and it killed any chance Rocket to Russia had of getting any airplay.

The Ramones because somwhat indelibly stamped in everbody's mind, as a cult band that wasn't for everybody.

20 years later, when punk finally became mainsream, every band out there gave a nod of gratitude to The Ramones for saving Rock 'n' Roll, not the other bands (The Damned, The Clash, Sex Pistols).

The Rocket to Russia sleeve also mentions the inspirations and musical background of each member of the band:

Johnny (Guitar) - The Beatles and Elvis
Dee Dee (Bass) - Bay City Rollers, Stones, New York Dolls and Stooges;
Tommy (Drums) - Hendrix, Mountain Stooges, and the Dolls
Joey (Vocals) - Herman's Hermits, 1910 Fruitgum Co., Sweet Marc Bolan, New York Dolls, Velvet Underground and the Stooges,

I would say all these influences coalesced to form punk, and I'd credit the Ramones with the invention.

InsaneApache
02-27-2006, 20:44
I wouldn't say punk "truly died" because the Ramones were still making music all through the 80s.

This is from the Rocket to Russia sleeve (I paraphrased for some):



The Rocket to Russia sleeve also mentions the inspirations and musical background of each member of the band:

Johnny (Guitar) - The Beatles and Elvis
Dee Dee (Bass) - Bay City Rollers, Stones, New York Dolls and Stooges;
Tommy (Drums) - Hendrix, Mountain Stooges, and the Dolls
Joey (Vocals) - Herman's Hermits, 1910 Fruitgum Co., Sweet, Marc Bolan, New York Dolls, Velvet Underground and the Stooges,

I would say all these influences coalesced to form punk, and I'd credit the Ramones with the invention.

I think they had their tongues in cheeks here. No. I know they did. Class.:2thumbsup:

Ianofsmeg16
02-27-2006, 21:14
Pink Floyd >You

Kanamori
02-27-2006, 23:27
Dream Theater -- Progressive Metal

GoreBag
02-28-2006, 00:11
I saw the Pistols in 1976 at the Lesser Free Trade hall in Manchester and like to think of myself as amongst the first Punk/New wave.

Nice. I would have liked to have been there, if only to soak up the scene. Were you more of a showgoer, or did you drop acid and have sex in public with the rest of the delinquents?

InsaneApache
02-28-2006, 00:28
Nice. I would have liked to have been there, if only to soak up the scene. Were you more of a showgoer, or did you drop acid and have sex in public with the rest of the delinquents?

Both. At different times during my adolescence.
:oops: :laugh4: :sweatdrop:

(Actually that gig inspired me and our kid (my bro) to start a band....but that's another story/thread.)

TheSilverKnight
02-28-2006, 02:15
Insite - Spanish punk rock

They're quite good. GO FIND THEM! ~;p

Reverend Joe
02-28-2006, 03:24
Their legacy lives on. No more boring old fart guitar solos.*eyes Pink Floyd* Before punk, most axemen were preening, posturing onanists, these days they are just onanists. :laugh4:

They (Reed and Pop) stripped all the pretentiousness from rock and took it back to it's roots.
:stare: So... it was punk? Punk destroyed and poisoned rock as we know it, and took it further from its roots than it had ever been before, instead adding incredible pretentiousness and rhythmless droning crap? Punk is the unknown beast, the thing that undid all that Hendrix accomplished?

So, now I know my sworn enemy...

In that case, the death of Hendrix was not the worst thing to happen to music since the first appearance of the Beatles. It was punk.

Alexander the Pretty Good
02-28-2006, 03:35
Either Relient K (Rock, maybe some punk?) or the OC Supertones (Ska).

Kaiser of Arabia
02-28-2006, 04:26
:brood:

Hmm, Banned for Life? 3000 Warning Points? Forced to spend a weekend listening to Kaiser and SFTS discussing the benefits of the Sturmgewer in modern day tactical situations?

I'll think of something.

You spelled Sturmgewehr wrong.

I'm up for it, if SFTS is. Although I do not feel the actual Stg. has much use in Modern Warfare. While it was probably the best firearm of World War Two, modern firearms such as the Steyer AUG, HK416, Ak-108, AN-94, IMI Galil, Daewoo K2, et cetera far surpass it.

Although it looked really cool. Then again, so does the APS 95.

SFTS, what's your opinion on it?

Quietus
02-28-2006, 04:50
Bob Marley & the Wailers

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Linton Kwesi Johnson (with the Dennis Bovell Dub Band).

Strike For The South
02-28-2006, 05:20
You spelled Sturmgewehr wrong.

I'm up for it, if SFTS is. Although I do not feel the actual Stg. has much use in Modern Warfare. While it was probably the best firearm of World War Two, modern firearms such as the Steyer AUG, HK416, Ak-108, AN-94, IMI Galil, Daewoo K2, et cetera far surpass it.

Although it looked really cool. Then again, so does the APS 95.

SFTS, what's your opinion on it?

Wel it depends what kind of war. If we are poor Africans in jungle nothing beats the Ak-47 cheap reliable and easy to use. Now if we are wealthier our options may vary to those mentioned above. Although I am in agreement the STG. deserves much talk in modern warfare.

JimBob
02-28-2006, 06:07
So... it was punk? Punk destroyed and poisoned rock as we know it, and took it further from its roots than it had ever been before, instead adding incredible pretentiousness and rhythmless droning crap? Punk is the unknown beast, the thing that undid all that Hendrix accomplished?
*Slaps Zorba across the internet.
Punk muscially (especially with bands like the Ramones) was against the bloated music that was main stream. It went straight back to the roots of Rock and Roll. A songs by The Crickets and the Early Beatles are closer musically to punk music than Hendrix ever was.


I would say that punk would have been nothing if it wasn't for the subculture. The Sex Pistols, Siouxse and the Banshees and the other groups from that scene would have defined punk, for all of their faults, and after the six-month run, punk truly did die.
Eh, I always liked the New York and Minneapolis scenes beter than London.

GoreBag
02-28-2006, 06:49
You spelled Sturmgewehr wrong.

But 'hier' has been spelled wrong under your username for months.

Byzantine Prince
02-28-2006, 07:58
Well, you can do it yourself, if you want.
I love Marilyn Manson. No other band is that hardcore.

InsaneApache
02-28-2006, 10:56
You spelled Sturmgewehr wrong.

I'm up for it, if SFTS is. Although I do not feel the actual Stg. has much use in Modern Warfare. While it was probably the best firearm of World War Two, modern firearms such as the Steyer AUG, HK416, Ak-108, AN-94, IMI Galil, Daewoo K2, et cetera far surpass it.

Although it looked really cool. Then again, so does the APS 95.

SFTS, what's your opinion on it?


Wel it depends what kind of war. If we are poor Africans in jungle nothing beats the Ak-47 cheap reliable and easy to use. Now if we are wealthier our options may vary to those mentioned above. Although I am in agreement the STG. deserves much talk in modern warfare.

Be careful what you wish for B, it may come true.:laugh4:

Reverend Joe
02-28-2006, 15:54
*Slaps Zorba across the internet.
Punk muscially (especially with bands like the Ramones) was against the bloated music that was main stream. It went straight back to the roots of Rock and Roll. A songs by The Crickets and the Early Beatles are closer musically to punk music than Hendrix ever was.
I still demand that InsaneApache apologise for that "boring old fart guitar solos" comment, because Hendrix was the god of guitar solos, and by insulting solos, you insult my god. :brood: Don't insult my god.

Ianofsmeg16
02-28-2006, 17:06
Insite - Spanish punk rock

They're quite good. GO FIND THEM! ~;p
I have to add to this, Insite do certainly rule, but floyd for me are better.

Well, we all have different tastes, if we were all the same well theworld would be an incredibly boring place :2thumbsup:

LeftEyeNine
02-28-2006, 17:08
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Alternative (later) / Funk (originally).

My whole inspiration about Red Hot Chili Janissaries

P.S. I can't finish it without mentioning Offspring and Wallflowers though.

Ianofsmeg16
02-28-2006, 17:11
LEN, the RHCP are very good in small doses, the song 'On Mercury' is a fantastic song, and they have many songs that are just as good, but 'Give it Away' annoys me and kinda ruins the band for me (",)

Gawain of Orkeny
02-28-2006, 19:29
I would say all these influences coalesced to form punk, and I'd credit the Ramones with the invention.

Actually a case can be made that the Kinks invented punk.

Marcellus
02-28-2006, 21:52
Pink Floyd, without a doubt.

Csargo
02-28-2006, 23:07
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Zorba got slapped in the face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you gonna take that from him smack him back.

~D

LeftEyeNine
02-28-2006, 23:12
LEN, the RHCP are very good in small doses, the song 'On Mercury' is a fantastic song, and they have many songs that are just as good, but 'Give it Away' annoys me and kinda ruins the band for me (",)

"On Mercury" is one of my RHCP top 5. Excellent taste ~;)

You should not forget that RHCP is funky in the origin. "Give It Away" is one of them. However I'm sure you'd like "Stone Cold Bush" or "Backwoods" -those from their similar musical period.

Scurvy
02-28-2006, 23:25
best band easily Incubus

second probably Primus

Sasaki Kojiro
03-01-2006, 00:35
I guess I've been listening to Manson the most recently. And Icon of Coil and Darude. I can't say I have a favorite band though.

Quietus
03-01-2006, 03:10
Did somebody say "Give it Away" by the RHCP?

Bob Marley poet and a prophet
Bob Marley taught me how to off it
Bob Marley walkin’ like he talk it
Goodness me can’t you see I’m gonna cough it" - Give It Away (RHCP).
Marley fans....(and it is a funky song).

Reverend Joe
03-01-2006, 03:35
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Zorba got slapped in the face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you gonna take that from him smack him back.

~D
~:joker: It was only an internet slap.

Now, if it had been a real slap... :boxing:

GoreBag
03-01-2006, 05:08
I love Marilyn Manson. No other band is that hardcore.

HAHAHAHA. Yeah, Manson sure is an 'eat rocks and crap gunpowder' kind of guy. :dizzy2:

Byzantine Prince
03-01-2006, 05:29
'eat rocks and crap gunpowder'
I've never heard that saying, and I don't know what it means? :dizzy2:

R'as al Ghul
03-01-2006, 10:44
Hi IA,

I agree wholeheartedly to all you've said.
I've always been a great Ramones fan, but you cannot
ignore that they themselves always gave credit to people that came before them.
Stooges, MC5 etc. I think they even mentioned Chuck Berry and "The Killer".
Since you're older than me :laugh4: , I'd like to honour this badge to you:
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~:cheers:




I saw the Pistols in 1976 at the Lesser Free Trade hall in Manchester and like to think of myself as amongst the first Punk/New wave. [...]
Anyway back OT.

I can see how the Ramones would be a candidate for starting the US style of Punk. Indeed one of the first times I heard the word punk* (*a 16th century prostitute or a peice of driftwood haha) was in an NME article about Johnny, Joey, Dee Dee.

However, the case is they were following in the footsteps of other bands 3 chords tricks, or even 2 chords in Carbona not Glue. :2thumbsup:

Proto punk bands such as the Stooges, MC5, the Velvet Underground, New York Dolls all paved the way for the mid 70's explosion we now call punk rock. In particular Lou Reed and Iggy Pop (little jimmy james) are quite rightly accorded the accolade of 'godfathers of punk'.

Their legacy lives on. No more boring old fart guitar solos.*eyes Pink Floyd* Before punk, most axemen were preening, posturing onanists, these days they are just onanists. :laugh4:

They (Reed and Pop) stripped all the pretentiousness from rock and took it back to it's roots.

InsaneApache
03-01-2006, 11:02
I accept this award with grace. May I add that I'd like to thank my mother and father for having the wisdom to 'get it together' in mid '59 so that I would be exactley 17 in 1977.

I'd also like to thank my publicist (me :laugh4: ) and manager (the missus :help: ) for all the support they have given me over these last few years.

*sniff* Finally *sniff* I'd like to thank all the... *snuffle* all those fans *snarffle* who stuck with me *mawaherr* throughout this testing *baaahaaaw* time *booohoo*:2thumbsup:

ala Paltrow:laugh4:

R'as al Ghul
03-01-2006, 11:12
I accept this award with grace.

LOL. I thought you're gonna pin it to your cheek.
No, that would be PunkRock. :laugh4:

I just thought, now that we have the new custom avatars,
you could create one with the button pinned to it.

~:cheers:

P.S.: Remember "Larry Teich and the Alan Milman Sect"?

InsaneApache
03-01-2006, 12:19
LOL. I thought you're gonna pin it to your cheek.
No, that would be PunkRock.

As in safety pins? You know I never wore one. I didn't know anyone who did, except when pictures appeard in The Sun. Zips that was the thing. I had a jacket I'd swopped my old .22 BSA air rifle for. It was made entirely from zips. I wish I still had it, it was an early effort from Seditionaries (http://www.seditionaries.com/), by an unknown northern designer called Vivienne Westwood. It'd be worth an absolute fortune now.

:embarassed:

R'as al Ghul
03-01-2006, 12:49
As in safety pins? You know I never wore one. I didn't know anyone who did, except when pictures appeard in The Sun. Zips that was the thing. I had a jacket I'd swopped my old .22 BSA air rifle for. It was made entirely from zips. I wish I still had it, it was an early effort from Seditionaries (http://www.seditionaries.com/), by an unknown northern designer called Vivienne Westwood. It'd be worth an absolute fortune now.

:embarassed:

Me neither and I wasn't really serious.
Wow an original Vivian Westwood jacket. Could be worth thousands
of bucks on ebay. Did you buy it at her store? What was it called, "Sex"?
At one time I wore one of those red chequered westwood-rip off zip trousers. But most of the time I would look exactly like a Ramone.
Imaginative, isn't it?

Reverend Joe
03-01-2006, 15:44
I accept this award with grace. May I add that I'd like to thank my mother and father for having the wisdom to 'get it together' in mid '59 so that I would be exactley 17 in 1977.

I'd also like to thank my publicist (me :laugh4: ) and manager (the missus :help: ) for all the support they have given me over these last few years.

*sniff* Finally *sniff* I'd like to thank all the... *snuffle* all those fans *snarffle* who stuck with me *mawaherr* throughout this testing *baaahaaaw* time *booohoo*:2thumbsup:

ala Paltrow:laugh4:
...I still demand an apology for the Guitar Solos comment... my god hs been punished, and I will recieve apologies! :furious3:

R'as al Ghul
03-01-2006, 16:06
...I still demand an apology for the Guitar Solos comment... my god hs been punished, and I will recieve apologies! :furious3:

Try to get over it while listening to one of those stadium-rock 20 min solos!? :wink:

InsaneApache
03-01-2006, 16:18
...I still demand an apology for the Guitar Solos comment... my god hs been punished, and I will recieve apologies! :furious3:

As in the words of one of my favourite tracks by X-Ray Spex*....'Oh bondage, Up yours!!!':laugh4: :laugh4:

*X-Ray Spex (http://www.comnet.ca/~rina/xrayspex.html) Listen to it. a classic. :2thumbsup:

English assassin
03-01-2006, 16:56
Maiden. Its the one thing JAG and I agree on.

Who else would even think of, still less get away with a heavy metal version of the Rime of the Ancient Mariner?


I love Marilyn Manson. No other band is that hardcore

Hardcore? Is it just me or is Brian basically glam rock?

Reverend Joe
03-01-2006, 16:58
Try to get over it while listening to one of those stadium-rock 20 min solos!? :wink:
Who said anything about stadium-rock? I'm talking about Hendrix here...

Man, stadium-rock is awful.

drone
03-01-2006, 17:28
Hardcore? Is it just me or is Brian basically glam rock?
I think Marilyn Manson is trying to be a very watered-down version of GG Allin. If you want some self-hate in your music, GG is the way to go! :2thumbsup: (may he rest in peace)

I don't really have a favorite band. I can't keep track of the new stuff, and all of my old favorites have either broken up or sold out. I'm just living in the past now... :help:

R'as al Ghul
03-02-2006, 10:41
Who said anything about stadium-rock? I'm talking about Hendrix here...

Well okay, Hendrix has the rebel factor. I give you that.
But what they have in common is that I can listen to a whole
Ramones album while they play a guitar solo.


Man, stadium-rock is awful.

Right. :smash:

Byzantine Prince
03-02-2006, 15:19
Hardcore? Is it just me or is Brian basically glam rock?
~:rolleyes: You are joking, right? You know his real name and you don't know that he only did the Bowie/glam thing for one album? Shame on you.


I think Marilyn Manson is trying to be a very watered-down version of GG Allin. If you want some self-hate in your music, GG is the way to go! (may he rest in peace)
~:rolleyes: Yeah, because someone GG Allin actually invented being shocking on stage and self-hate. PFFFFFFFFFT!

Reenk Roink
03-02-2006, 17:00
Not really a Pink Floyd fan, but DO NOT diss the guitar solo. Since I have no rhythm, all I do on my guitar is solo. And I like listening to solos. Some of my favorite self-indulgent guitar solos are:

Alive-Mike McCready

Crossfire-Stevie Ray Vaughan

A bunch more from McCready and SRV...

Some from Hendrix...

A few from Neil Young and Kim Thayil...

drone
03-02-2006, 17:09
~:rolleyes: Yeah, because someone GG Allin actually invented being shocking on stage and self-hate. PFFFFFFFFFT!
I didn't say he invented being shocking on stage, he just took it to a completely different level. Of course, he had the advantage of not actually trying to please his audience (and not having to answer to a major record label).

Byzantine Prince
03-02-2006, 21:13
"Shock is all in your head" - Rock is Dead.

Everyone is different. As long as you enjoy the music, shock value is secondary. I am not shocked easily at all, I watch a lot of extreme cinema. Shock to me is just playing with extremeties.


I didn't say he invented being shocking on stage
Let's not tapdance, you said MM is a "watered-down" version of this guy, which is totally absurd, they don't play the same music or do the same things to shock people, nor have the same intention behind the shock value.

InsaneApache
03-02-2006, 21:49
Shock is all in the context, dear boy. :coffeenews:

drone
03-03-2006, 00:14
Shock to me is just playing with extremeties.
Funny you should mention that. "Playing with extremities" was part of GG's act. ~;)

Evil_Maniac From Mars
03-03-2006, 04:20
NOBODY POSTED AC/DC!


There's a fly on the wall...a wasp!

And I shoot to thrill...play to kiiiiiiiiillllllll!

Big_John
03-03-2006, 04:30
fav bands include:

pink floyd (with waters)
grandaddy
iron & wine
mercury rev
sparklehorse

there are other good ones, but i would put those 5 above the rest.

Byzantine Prince
03-03-2006, 04:39
Funny you should mention that. "Playing with extremities" was part of GG's act. ~;)
You ignored my point.

Lemur
03-03-2006, 05:01
DO NOT diss the guitar solo. Since I have no rhythm, all I do on my guitar is solo. And I like listening to solos.
I was at a live show when people started screaming "Free Bird!" The guy playing, Mike Doughty, yelled into the mic, "Don't you people know that Free Bird is Latin for 'Fifteen guys on guitars, all soloing at once'?"

Anybody else a Soul Coughing fan, or am I showing my age?

Templar Knight
03-03-2006, 15:46
Iron Maiden! :2thumbsup:

Heavy Metal! :2thumbsup:

English assassin
03-03-2006, 19:19
You are joking, right? You know his real name and you don't know that he only did the Bowie/glam thing for one album? Shame on you.

Actually I know his real name (and gleefully joined in chanting "Brian....Brian...Brian" during his set at Reading the time before last) and I didn't even know he did a Bowie thing for one album. Its ALL his music I was talking about.

I've seen him live twice. The first time he spent a long time telling us how evil he was, and it was a bit dull (hence the "Brian" chant). The second time he came on and played his music and did the show, and it was entertaining, so fair play to him.

Byzantine Prince
03-03-2006, 21:12
Usually the people that care enough to critisize this band haven't listened to the music. You have to listen to the lyrics to understand why they are the way they are for each album, and they are compeltely different in almost every way with each album. He is like Bowie in that way.

drone
03-04-2006, 00:02
I'm not critisizing Marilyn Manson. They aren't one of my top bands, but the music is interesting, it's different, and it pisses off the religious right so I'm all for it. I'm not saying GG Allin was the greatest either, I wasn't a fan. But if we are talking shock on stage or who is truly hardcore, I'm sorry, but GG owns here.

Self-mutilation (not faked) with piano wire, broken glass, whatever. Taking a dump and flinging it into the crowd. Urinating on the audience. Just like SeaWorld, if you were in the front you were going to get wet (and not with water). This is the late 80s-early 90s, at the height of the AIDS scare, he's hurling random bodily fluids into the crowd, and considering his drug use, it was very probable he had HIV. His concerts ended with either fights with the audience, complete destruction of the set, or his arrest. GoreBag's 'eat rocks and crap gunpowder' comment definitely applies here. Manson may have someone called Gacy in the band, but the real Gacy did a portrait of GG during one of his visits. It's almost a shame GG never got to do his suicide concert (end result would still be the same), because that would have put the extreme concert ceiling out of reach, and bands would just have to shut up and go back to playing the music.

Again, I'm not critisizing Marilyn Manson. Its just that he has some work to do before he can truly be called shocking or hardcore. Maybe I'm just jaded, ah, the joys of being in the MTV generation...

As an aside, did MM ever get his lower rib removed? I heard that he wanted to do it, never found out if he actually went through with it though.

Byzantine Prince
03-04-2006, 00:24
I didn't mean hardcore as in shocking. Manson does not shock me at the least. I was referring to the anger in the music, and the lyrics, especially in Anti-Christ Superstar. That album is ridiculously hardcore.


Again, I'm not critisizing Marilyn Manson. Its just that he has some work to do before he can truly be called shocking or hardcore. Maybe I'm just jaded, ah, the joys of being in the MTV generation...
Well it isn't a band anymore. I focus on the music, the 'drop the music and just beat up everyone around you in feces' is really boring to me. I have snuff movies for that type of stuff. :laugh4:


As an aside, did MM ever get his lower rib removed? I heard that he wanted to do it, never found out if he actually went through with it though.
No, that was a rumor that was started because he would wear a bloody corset on stage.

ArcticSonata
03-04-2006, 05:41
Iron Maiden
:2thumbsup:
Is it really necessary to tell you guy what they play