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oudysseos
03-16-2006, 00:21
Any women posting/playing? I have a bet with my wife.

Urnamma
03-16-2006, 01:10
Women, video games? I'd be surprised ;)

Sarcasm
03-16-2006, 01:17
Any women posting/playing? I have a bet with my wife.
Both my Ex and my current girlfriend *hate* EB. Does that answer your question?

khelvan
03-16-2006, 01:44
In my experience, as I have several female friends who play games such as this, and one who is a high-profile game developer, many women who do play such games see themselves as "gamers" and not "girls," and hate to be treated differently than male gamers. Thus, they tend to avoid threads such as this like the plague, as these are generally populated with teenage boys (and I don't need to extend the explanation further).

Trithemius
03-16-2006, 03:23
My wife played RTW quite a bit; she's rather busy with her lab-work at present though and has not got around to giving EB a go yet.

There are more male than female wargamers around, for both computer and miniature wargames, but they do exist. As khelvan noted, most of them don't really like being considered for their novelty value.

Reverend Joe
03-16-2006, 03:28
they tend to avoid threads such as this like the plague, as these are generally populated with teenage boys (and I don't need to extend the explanation further).
~:joker: That's clever.

PSYCHO V
03-16-2006, 06:40
Women, video games? I'd be surprised ;)

Well, I know of an Adelaide (AUS) couple that play BF2 together

my2bob

Strike For The South
03-16-2006, 06:48
whats a girl are are the a /\/00b?

NightStar
03-16-2006, 11:33
He said girls....hehehehe....girls....(snigger)

Djurre
03-16-2006, 14:53
I'm wondering..... Could i care less?
i guess not

Arman
03-16-2006, 15:10
I know one Lady that likes to play RTW and kicks the hell out of everybody in NTW 1 multiplayer games.

GodEmperorLeto
03-16-2006, 16:28
In my experience, as I have several female friends who play games such as this, and one who is a high-profile game developer, many women who do play such games see themselves as "gamers" and not "girls," and hate to be treated differently than male gamers.

Hmmm.... That's kind of a shame. Girls can and often do think differently than boys and can provide criticism and advice on things about game design that men wouldn't notice and vice versa. If there are girls playing EB the very fact that they are girls might mean that they have a different perspective on a variety of issues and details in the mod that may be constructive to all parties involved.

khelvan
03-16-2006, 17:35
I don't think you got the point of my post. It isn't that they try not to be different; everyone is different. However, they don't like to be -treated differently-. There is a difference.

Baldwin of Jerusalem
03-16-2006, 19:53
Yeah, Im not really sure that EB is quite what the poster needs. Try this site:

www.adultfriendfinder.com

lol

Cheexsta
03-17-2006, 05:39
There are a few female posters/players over at the RTR boards (and I know at least one of them has visited here/TWC before ~;)) and I know a couple of female gamers personally (hell, I got one of them hooked on Unreal Tournament!) but that doesn't quite answer the question...

Samurai Waki
03-17-2006, 06:46
The last time I played EB when my girlfriend was around she stole the keyboard when I got up for a second... and then ran into my bedroom and locked the door. Well, I didn't want to negotiate so I tried playing EB for awhile without a keyboard which didn't work too well... and then decided not to argue at all and grabbed a coffee and read the paper at the diner down the street. From then on, I decided to buy a second keyboard and mouse to keep hidden from her sight, just in case such an incident occurs again.

Dooz
03-17-2006, 07:26
Just finished watching The Notebook with my girlfriend... *tear* I'm feeling a little verklempt... talk amongst yoursleves... here's a topic; Rhode Island is neither a road nor an island... discuss....

Ehem... oh, right right, girls and EB. Well, she doesn't really play EB so much as enjoys when I tell her of my conquests and such. She even bought me a sword : )

GodEmperorLeto
03-17-2006, 18:23
However, they don't like to be -treated differently-. There is a difference.

And fanboys have a tendency to slaver over them. I get you, now. Point taken.


Well, she doesn't really play EB so much as enjoys when I tell her of my conquests and such. She even bought me a sword : )

That is awesome. I stand in awe. You, sir, win the intarweb.

oudysseos
03-17-2006, 19:18
Yeah, Im not really sure that EB is quite what the poster needs. Try this site:

www.adultfriendfinder.com

lol


I actually didn't think that this was funny.

I know that my original post was not very well worded (it was late, I had a few jars inside me) but the question was actually a serious one, perhaps best recast as, Why is it that a game like EB appeals primarily to males? My wife in fact enjoys some computer games like Myst but thinks EB is dull (and doesn't like it when I spend too much time playing). Our 12 year old daughter loves RTW but only ever plays battles (she loves elephants) and finds my campaigns boring. I have to let her fight any really interesting battles on hand (she won't do sieges, and she's not too keen on her homework either). My son (eight) likes to play EB when I do but only if I tell him stories about the people involved- he thinks the battles are dull but is willing to hang around and annoy his sister with bad advice. That strange little family dynamic got me to wondering if there were any other female perspectives on RTW/EB or on history in general. Despite liking battles (the bloodier the better), my girl is not interested in the historical context or the impact that such battles did actually have on the course of human history. Now, fair enough she's only twelve but I did wonder, for example, if there are any women involved with the dev team. Not really any of my business and no-one has to answer if they don't want to.

So, Baldwin et al, if you think the thread is spurious, say so, or better yet just don't reply. Leave the adultfriendfinder stuff out of it, please. My girl was actually quite excited to see if there were any others like her (of course there are not; she is unique).

oudysseos
03-17-2006, 19:21
Just finished watching The Notebook with my girlfriend... *tear* I'm feeling a little verklempt... talk amongst yoursleves... here's a topic; Rhode Island is neither a road nor an island... discuss....

Ehem... oh, right right, girls and EB. Well, she doesn't really play EB so much as enjoys when I tell her of my conquests and such. She even bought me a sword : )


The state's common name, Rhode Island, actually refers to the largest island in Narragansett Bay, also known as Aquidneck Island, on which the city of Newport is located. The origin of the name is unclear. Some historians think that Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano, upon discovering Block Island, just southwest in the Atlantic Ocean, named it Rhode Island because of its similarity in shape to the Greek island of Rhodes. Later settlers, mistaking which island Verrazzano was referring to, gave the name to Aquidneck Island instead. Other historians believe that the name is derived from Roodt Eylandt, Dutch for "red island," given to the island by Dutch explorer Adriaen Block due to the red clay on the island's shore.

khelvan
03-17-2006, 21:14
Frogbeastegg was a member of the EB team way back when it first started, but she has since lost interest. We get occasional help from a German archaeologist/historian/museum curator. We had at least one female gamer posting over in our TWC forum presence.

The standpoint of our contributors, male or female, is not different. We are all attempting to understand and relate history, so in this respect we're all the same.

Dooz
03-17-2006, 23:43
The state's common name, Rhode Island, actually refers to the largest island in Narragansett Bay, also known as Aquidneck Island, on which the city of Newport is located. The origin of the name is unclear. Some historians think that Italian explorer Giovanni da Verrazzano, upon discovering Block Island, just southwest in the Atlantic Ocean, named it Rhode Island because of its similarity in shape to the Greek island of Rhodes. Later settlers, mistaking which island Verrazzano was referring to, gave the name to Aquidneck Island instead. Other historians believe that the name is derived from Roodt Eylandt, Dutch for "red island," given to the island by Dutch explorer Adriaen Block due to the red clay on the island's shore.

Tell it to Linda Richman :smile: .

nikolai1962
03-18-2006, 00:45
....Our 12 year old daughter loves RTW but only ever plays battles (she loves elephants) and finds my campaigns boring. I have to let her fight any really interesting battles on hand (she won't do sieges, and she's not too keen on her homework either)....

My 11 year old niece likes the custom battles as long as she has elephants.

Justiciar
03-18-2006, 03:39
Just finished watching The Notebook with my girlfriend... *tear* I'm feeling a little verklempt... talk amongst yoursleves... here's a topic; Rhode Island is neither a road nor an island... discuss....

Ehem... oh, right right, girls and EB. Well, she doesn't really play EB so much as enjoys when I tell her of my conquests and such. She even bought me a sword : )
That's beautiful.. ~:mecry:

the_handsome_viking
03-19-2006, 11:50
The only women that would play games like this would be amazingly overweight and would probably at some point eat their moniters if they got overly exited by what they were seeing on screen, which is expected of fat people.

Pretty girls play stupid games like magical bubble ponys magical pony bubble adventure in wonderland, or the sims2.

So my point is, I don't think there are many girls here.

Bar Kochba
03-19-2006, 12:02
The only women that would play games like this would be amazingly overweight and would probably at some point eat their moniters if they got overly exited by what they were seeing on screen, which is expected of fat people.

Pretty girls play stupid games like magical bubble ponys magical pony bubble adventure in wonderland, or the sims2.

So my point is, I don't think there are many girls here.

wow if i was a girl on this fourm i would be outraged

but since im not ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rodion Romanovich
03-19-2006, 12:15
The only women that would play games like this would be amazingly overweight and would probably at some point eat their moniters if they got overly exited by what they were seeing on screen, which is expected of fat people.

Pretty girls play stupid games like magical bubble ponys magical pony bubble adventure in wonderland, or the sims2.

So my point is, I don't think there are many girls here.

:2thumbsup: :laugh4:

I actually once saw a pretty good looking girl that played FPS games, but so far I've never seen a pretty girl playing strategy games of any kind...

the_handsome_viking
03-19-2006, 12:23
You can tell a lot about the quality of people on a forum by their responses to such posts like the one I made about the girl gamers.

Nice going guys!!!:2thumbsup:

Trithemius
03-20-2006, 03:15
The only women that would play games like this would be amazingly overweight and would probably at some point eat their moniters if they got overly exited by what they were seeing on screen, which is expected of fat people.

Pretty girls play stupid games like magical bubble ponys magical pony bubble adventure in wonderland, or the sims2.

So my point is, I don't think there are many girls here.

*facepalms*

khelvan
03-20-2006, 05:03
There is no need to be offensive, joking or not, in the forum. We try to be tolerant here.

Umbra
03-21-2006, 02:36
The only women that would play games like this would be amazingly overweight and would probably at some point eat their moniters if they got overly exited by what they were seeing on screen, which is expected of fat people.

Pretty girls play stupid games like magical bubble ponys magical pony bubble adventure in wonderland, or the sims2.

So my point is, I don't think there are many girls here.


The intelligence factor of this forum just dropped a point. Now I could make my sister proud and yell and scream about you being a shallow sexist, but that would be hypocritical of me, however I would like to make the point that I know plenty of attractive creatures of the female persuasion that play video games of all types, bloody hell mate watch G4TechTV a lot of the staff for that network are game playing ladies.

But I digress, now here’s Phil Stonebeck with the weather.

We all need someone
03-21-2006, 05:02
I agree with ya there, Lord Khelvan, Master of the Universe. It's social pressures mostly that force those kind ladies from playing video games, since it is not seen as "girly enough" to do so, and generally for both genders as "childish" and "immature". Of course I disagree, but eh that's a whole 'nuther can of worms.

However, I must also defend The Handsome Viking. That character is quite humorous, and was intending to just get a rise out of people, whether defensive(in a lady's case), sexist/chauvinist(which is ridiculous, considering the social pressures described make it hard enough to meet said ladies for all of these posters), or (as in my case) laughing at his absurdity.

And because I also point and laugh at fat people.

khelvan
03-21-2006, 05:04
Attempting to get a rise out of people through being offensive is not welcome here.