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edyzmedieval
11-25-2006, 12:26
Hesiod or Syagrus.

Conradus
11-25-2006, 12:31
Herodotos?

Antagonist
11-27-2006, 02:00
Nope...

Actually it may be that I've overcompensated for the easiness of my previous question this time, but the figure in question isn't that obscure, although I may be bending the rules a bit. A little prod if it helps, the figure I'm looking for is not a Hellene of any description...

Antagonist

Csargo
11-27-2006, 02:43
Ahhhhhhhh can we have any other hints?

Conradus
11-27-2006, 19:32
Luo Guangzhon? (romance of the three kingdoms?)

I'm looking too far, most likely :(

Antagonist
11-28-2006, 01:38
Okay, it does seem I may have inadvertently set a new precedent for obscurity here, as the description (whilst containing several cryptic allusions to the identity) is still pretty damn vague. Proper hints:

1) Nowadays this individual would be considered more mythological than historical, but this was not always so even relatively recently.
2) This individual's literary fame did not occur until long after their time.
3) Said fame was also closely linked to controversy about the individual's identity and historicity.

Antagonist

Csargo
11-28-2006, 01:48
This is probably a crappy guess but Shakespeare

Ignoramus
11-28-2006, 03:04
Aeneus?

The Stranger
11-28-2006, 19:42
The Sleeping Dragon? Dong Zhuong? Lu Bu? Confucius :P

I gues he was born around 300 A.D, 470 A.D. or between 80 B.C. and 20 B.C. since that were the only times the Med was in total chaos. Was living during the Three Kingdoms...

Alright this is just something that popped up in me but ill take a gues for Jesus, otherwise Moses or some Egyptian Writer...?

The Stranger
11-28-2006, 20:37
Definitly not Jesus :P...

Maybe Muhammed, Zou Ci or Ma Chao

Antagonist
11-29-2006, 02:58
None of them, I fear. Hopefully this will make it clear:

A European, though not from the Classical world. Was largely unknown for a long time after their death until (in rather dubious circumstances) they quite suddenly became one of the most celebrated figures in Western literary society, enrapturing many, including one of the "Great Men" of history who commisioned several pictures of them. Eventually the controversy surrounding them became so great that it was apparent that this fame was essentially undeserved and they ceased to be considered.

Big hint: Students of 18th and 19th Century literature should have heard the name, if no-one else.

Antagonist

matteus the inbred
11-29-2006, 11:04
Ossian? Even Napoleon was fooled by that one.

Antagonist
11-29-2006, 14:17
Yep, good catch Matteus.

I suppose I stretched things a bit by combining too only-nominally related figures, one mythological, the other fictional, but he came to mind after his name cropped up in a number of books I've read recently about the period, and as someone with an interest in literary history I found it interesting.

For those who don't know, Oisín mac Fionn is one of the main characters of the Fenian Cycle, one of the four cycles of Irish mythology, and the son of the main protagonist Fionn mac Cumhail. He was a famous bard and something of an archetype for the Celtic warrior-poet who had many adventures before dying tragically hundreds of years after all his family and friends and watching the world he had known pass away.

The historical event that prompted me to recall him however occured in the late 18th Century. In 1760 a previously unknown Scottish poet named James Macpherson published a series of poems in English which he claimed were translations of fragments of ancient Gaelic verse he had encountered while travelling in the Hebridean islands off Scotland. Their success lead him to publish several more "translations" in the following years, most famously Fingal, an epic poem ostensibly written by Oisín (anglicised Ossian) in the 3rd Century. They became a spectacular success and were translated into many languages, influencing authors like Walter Scott and Goethe, and even becoming Napoleon's favourite poem. Ultimately however a storm of suspicion grew up around the poems (particularly Macpherson's refusal to show anyone the manuscripts he claimed to have translated from) and it ultimately became apparent that it was all his own work, though it uses themes and characters from Gaelic tradition.

Anyway, there you are. One of my favourite literary episodes from the Age of Revolution. :book: Your question Matteus.

matteus the inbred
11-29-2006, 14:34
It's certainly a good 'un, and you're impressively knowledgeable about it! I have Boswell's Life of Dr Johnson to thank. Johnson, who of course remained unconvinced by Ossian, was asked whether he thought any man of their times could have written such a poem. He famously replied
'Yes sir, many men, and many women, and many children!'

Anyway...a question...

Name the event.
Both winner and loser lost their lives, it included the 'most beautiful volley in the history of warfare' and a famous painting of it caused some controversy by departing from the usual Neoclassical conventions of dress.

Conradus
11-29-2006, 17:03
For those who don't know, Oisín mac Fionn is one of the main characters of the Fenian Cycle, one of the four cycles of Irish mythology, and the son of the main protagonist Fionn mac Cumhail. He was a famous bard and something of an archetype for the Celtic warrior-poet who had many adventures before dying tragically hundreds of years after all his family and friends and watching the world he had known pass away.


Damn should've know this one :(, I read the fenian cycle more than once.
@question, It rings a bell, but I can't seem to come up with a name atm. I'll edit if I ever find it
Battle of the Plains of Abraham?

matteus the inbred
11-30-2006, 11:06
Correct, in 1759...Benjamin West's painting of the Death of Wolfe was controversial and drew criticism from Sir Joshua Reynolds and George III for depicting the participants in the dress of the period rather than in Greek of Roman attire. And of course, the French commander Montcalm was also killed...

over to you, Conradus!

edyzmedieval
11-30-2006, 19:07
Ahhh, too late.

Over to you Conradus. :book:

Conradus
11-30-2006, 20:03
I hope it's ok if my question isn't really a 'history' one. The person I'm looking for comes from myths.

"Though I'm a mere animal, I singlehandedly defended my king's country. I left battles in a most unusual company. My frenzy was known throughout the country and my weapon sang for blood.Some compare me to Achilles. Fathered by the sun, my mother was a princess. who am I?"

I guess it's a pretty easy one

The Stranger
11-30-2006, 20:11
what do mean with "left" he went to the battlescene or he went away from the battlescene...?

i think i know who you mean... but i can't find the name... it's on the tip of my tongue :P... dutch expression...

Conradus
11-30-2006, 21:33
When he came back from a battle, it was in a most unusual way.

I know the feeling (and the dutch expression 't ligt op het puntje van m'n tong ;)) Good to be among Dutch speakers.

The Stranger
12-01-2006, 18:47
ehheheh :P Nog een NL member... kom langs in de Talk Your Own/Dutch Language Thread... t is ondertussen geheel nederlandstalig!

I cant find the name, but was it a mythological creature from a eastern (persian/babylonian) myth?... cuz im fairly certain i have the right beast in my mind... but i cant find its frigging name... i also cant remember in what book i read it

Conradus
12-02-2006, 12:25
No, you're searching in the wrong myths, The Stranger, I wasn't referring to a eastern monster. In fact, ask yourself whether I'm referring to a monster at all ;)

This same topic gave me the idea.

And I'll check the Talk your ... thread asap.

Motep
12-02-2006, 17:14
I think his name is Theseus (may have spelled it wrong), (I think i may have the wrong name but im not sure). Nevermind, he was the sun of neptune.



It may have been perseus but im nt sure...

nevermind, I missed that it was a beast...

The Stranger
12-02-2006, 17:49
your riddle confuses me... is it a animal or a person... because you say the the PERSON you are looking for is coming from myths... and later ýou say he is an animal...

anyway... maybe some more hints?

Conradus
12-02-2006, 17:59
I know it's a little confusing with the animal/man thing, but if you knew his name, all would be clear. He carries the name of an animal, I guess that made it hard to find. And indeed, he's a mythical person, I can't imagine he really existed.

And no it isn't Theseus or Perseus, Motep dra Uha Dnia Mazzat.

Another tip, this man killed his own son.

Antagonist
12-02-2006, 18:30
Correct, in 1759...Benjamin West's painting of the Death of Wolfe was controversial and drew criticism from Sir Joshua Reynolds and George III for depicting the participants in the dress of the period rather than in Greek of Roman attire. And of course, the French commander Montcalm was also killed...

Damn it, I new about this picture and the controversy over the realism, just couldn't remember the name of the battle. :no:


"Though I'm a mere animal, I singlehandedly defended my king's country. I left battles in a most unusual company. My frenzy was known throughout the country and my weapon sang for blood.Some compare me to Achilles. Fathered by the sun, my mother was a princess. who am I?"


Another tip, this man killed his own son.

That seals it, barring some pretty remarkable mythological coincidence, the answer is surely Cúchulainn, the Hound of Ulster. Named after an animal, single-handedly defeated entire armies, had a terrible "warp-spasm" that was feared, fathered by the sun god Lugh, also known as the "Celtic Achilles" because of similarities in personality and abilities, etc. Killed his son too.

Antagonist

The Stranger
12-02-2006, 18:36
hmmm... never would have found it... guess its right

Conradus
12-02-2006, 18:40
And Antagonist is correct ~:cheers: :bow:
I was indeed referring to Cuchulain, the Hound of Culann. An animal because he changed his name into Cuchulain. He defended Ulster on his own by challenging the invading armies at rivers to meet him in a duel. Ulters armies lay home, victims of a curse. He once came out of battle in a chariot pulled by deers, and with ducks flying over him, attached to the chariot. He had a sort of warrior rage which was almost impossible to stop. And he killed his own son when this one refused to identify himself.

Just like Achilles he chose for a short life of glory instead of a long one. There are other similarities too. He killed his own son like some persian hero.

Antagonist, your turn.

The Stranger
12-02-2006, 18:46
hmmm... i actually know this dude... just never knew his name as Cuchulain. He indeed has much similarities with other heros, mostly greek ones... since greek mythology is full of family murder and incest so when you kill your son... you inmediatly have a lot in common :P

Antagonist
12-02-2006, 19:35
I was indeed referring to Cuchulain, the Hound of Culann. An animal because he changed his name into Cuchulain. He defended Ulster on his own by challenging the invading armies at rivers to meet him in a duel. Ulters armies lay home, victims of a curse. He once came out of battle in a chariot pulled by deers, and with ducks flying over him, attached to the chariot. He had a sort of warrior rage which was almost impossible to stop. And he killed his own son when this one refused to identify himself.

Just like Achilles he chose for a short life of glory instead of a long one. There are other similarities too. He killed his own son like some persian hero.

He is also said to have defeated an assassin by throwing an apple at him so hard it went right through his head. Truly a paragon of martial valour. :book:

Anyway, I should be back in a few hours to post my question. Hopefully.

Antagonist

Antagonist
12-06-2006, 02:13
Apologies for my tardiness, my PC basically died after a power cut the morning after my last post in this thread and I've only got it running again now (needed a new PSU) and it's not really stable yet. I'll post a new question as soon as I am able.

Antagonist

The Stranger
12-06-2006, 21:51
is it going to take long? maybe we can do a bonus question or sumthing... just for fun untill you can post again... and we continue with you...

Antagonist
12-07-2006, 03:23
Okay, here I am. Unfortuantely me original question proved not to be as "historical" as I thought, so I give you a fairly off-the-cuff replacement. Another "who am I?" (historical figure, promise :yes:) I just hope it isn't obvious to anyone but me:

I'm looking for an insane nobleman. Raised unwillingly between two powerful nations, he served in a great war, fighting in a place not to be confused with Spain. Subsequently dispatched to a far-flung outland, he refused to raise a white flag when the regime he served was overthrown and rebelled against those who had taken power, though in practice he actually impeded the war effort against them. As time went on, he became fascinated by the culture he had found himself in and became increasingly immersed in its traditions and beliefs. These became the basis in his unbalanced mind for a fantasy future in which he and his ragged band of followers would sweep away all those who had ruined his nation and put everything to rights. These grandiose visions culminated in a short-lived attempt to resurrect one of the greatest and most terrible names in history, but in truth was never more then the megalomanical dream of a madman. Extraordinarily cruel and violent, his brutality was rewarded by posterity with a ghoulish ephithet, though he was by no means the first person from his part of the world to receive it, and some might say he was but one of a long line of colourfully psychotic figures.

Apologies again for keeping anyone waiting. :book:

Antagonist

percy13
12-07-2006, 03:58
Sounds a little like Napoleon but I know it isn't him!

Innocentius
12-07-2006, 12:54
Considering the "revival" part it sounds like Tamerlane. Don't get the part about "not to be confused with Spain" though.

Stig
12-07-2006, 13:02
Hitler?

percy13
12-07-2006, 14:59
Can't be Hitler, he was lower middle class, no noble blood at all. I'm cluelss about who else it is though.

matteus the inbred
12-07-2006, 15:12
José Victoriano Huerta Márquez? 19th century Mexican nasty military type...known as 'The Jackal' at some time.

Stig
12-07-2006, 15:28
Can't be Hitler, he was lower middle class, no noble blood at all. I'm cluelss about who else it is though.
Aye, I know, but some of the other things sound like Hitler

Craterus
12-07-2006, 15:32
Ivan the Terrible?

Innocentius
12-07-2006, 16:01
Can't be Hitler, he was lower middle class, no noble blood at all. I'm cluelss about who else it is though.

OT, but isn't it just a myth that Hitler grew up in poor sircumstances stated by himself in Mein Kampf? IIRC, he grew up in a upper middle class family, his only real difficulties as a child would've been his father with who he didn't "get along" very well.

percy13
12-07-2006, 16:24
His father was a Custons official. They won't have been rich but they weren't starving by any means.

Apparently Hitler was a real "Mummy's" boy though and his father was pretty severe. If you've ever seen a picture of his father he doesn't look like he was a barrel of laughs. Though it must be said, neither was old Adolf!

The Stranger
12-07-2006, 18:03
Okay, here I am. Unfortuantely me original question proved not to be as "historical" as I thought, so I give you a fairly off-the-cuff replacement. Another "who am I?" (historical figure, promise :yes:) I just hope it isn't obvious to anyone but me:

I'm looking for an insane nobleman. Raised unwillingly between two powerful nations, he served in a great war, fighting in a place not to be confused with Spain. Subsequently dispatched to a far-flung outland, he refused to raise a white flag when the regime he served was overthrown and rebelled against those who had taken power, though in practice he actually impeded the war effort against them. As time went on, he became fascinated by the culture he had found himself in and became increasingly immersed in its traditions and beliefs. These became the basis in his unbalanced mind for a fantasy future in which he and his ragged band of followers would sweep away all those who had ruined his nation and put everything to rights. These grandiose visions culminated in a short-lived attempt to resurrect one of the greatest and most terrible names in history, but in truth was never more then the megalomanical dream of a madman. Extraordinarily cruel and violent, his brutality was rewarded by posterity with a ghoulish ephithet, though he was by no means the first person from his part of the world to receive it, and some might say he was but one of a long line of colourfully psychotic figures.

Apologies again for keeping anyone waiting. :book:

Antagonist

another hint maybe? everybody is looking fairly late in history but i think its around roman times... im not sure though... and if its late in history i guess it a person from the east...

Innocentius
12-07-2006, 18:17
another hint maybe? everybody is looking fairly late in history but i think its around roman times... im not sure though... and if its late in history i guess it a person from the east...

Why ask for another hint before he has answered to our suggestions? I think only three people have tried to answer the question this far.

Antagonist
12-07-2006, 18:36
None so far are correct.


another hint maybe? everybody is looking fairly late in history but i think its around roman times... im not sure though... and if its late in history i guess it a person from the east...

Not from Antiquity. East is the right area. Also, when I say "nobleman" I mean that he's actually referred to as holding a rank/title, although I'm not sure whether it was a genuine specific title or a generic indicator of vaguely aristocratic birth.

Antagonist

The Stranger
12-07-2006, 18:44
As far east as China? A follower of Mao?... Maybe even Mao...? but it didnt took short but quite long... The red Kmer leader...? it can go for so many persons... im going to check my database...

ill be back

AggonyDuck
12-07-2006, 20:26
I believe you are Baron Roman Nicolaus von Ungern-Sternberg also known as the Bloody Baron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Ungern

The Stranger
12-07-2006, 20:50
seems to fit the description pretty good... gee... i learn alot here... more than in history class :P

Antagonist
12-07-2006, 22:45
Correct! Well done, AggonyDuck.

One of my favourite "colourful" minor characters in the tapestry of history. I guess it's difficult to seperate fact from fiction with a guy like that, but it seems clear that he was highly unbalanced, to put it mildly. His activities to "liberate" Mongolia and alleged belief that he was Genghis Khan reincarnated make him particularly fascinating. :book:

Obscure Trivia: There was a pretty obscure FPS released a few years ago, variously called Iron Storm and World War Zero, which posits an alternate history of a never-ending First World War, caused by an antagonist clearly based on von Sternberg, a Tsarist officer who converted to Buddhism and united Central Asia under his sway before sweeping back into Eastern Europe. It wasn't very good, but the setting was interesting at least.

Anyway, your question AggonyDuck.

Antagonist

AggonyDuck
12-07-2006, 23:19
Oki, lets play recognise the ship. Which ill-fated ship-class does this dreadnought belong to?

https://img486.imageshack.us/img486/9890/questionde3.jpg

percy13
12-08-2006, 00:03
The only Dreadnought I can find that looks similar is the Bellerophon Class. But I think I'm wrong.

Couldn't give us a date?

Evil_Maniac From Mars
12-08-2006, 00:23
The closest thing I can think of is the IJN Satsuma.

Stig
12-08-2006, 02:46
Isn't that the one from Tarraks sig ... I doubt this is the correct answer

AggonyDuck
12-08-2006, 06:19
None are correct. I can help you by saying that these ships were commissioned during WWI.

matteus the inbred
12-08-2006, 12:10
It looks rather like a Russian Gangut Class battleship, but they were commissioned much earlier than WW1...is it Russian though?

AggonyDuck
12-08-2006, 16:30
Yup, it is a Russian dreadnought, but it's not a ship of the Gangut-class, albeit they do look very similar. ~;)

Geezer57
12-08-2006, 16:58
How about the Imperatrista Mariya? Commisioned in 1915, capsized and sunk in 1916 due to a cordite explosion.
Like here: http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/imperatritsa_maria.htm

matteus the inbred
12-08-2006, 17:35
Yeah, I think Geezer57 surely has it there...an unlucky class of ship indeed.

The Wiki entry says -
"They were generally similar in layout and capabilities to contemporary Gangut class battleships" !!! Curses. :laugh4:

The Stranger
12-08-2006, 19:03
is it just me or did the picture change into a white box with an red cross/X...

AggonyDuck
12-09-2006, 05:06
Yup, Geezer answered the question correctly. :yes:

Warluster
12-09-2006, 07:56
What does William the Conquerer and and Queen Elizibeth the Second have in Common, and its not 'there English' because there not (SORTTA NOT)
Need a hint?

Conradus
12-09-2006, 12:09
Isn't it Geezer's turn?

They both rule England ? ;):idea2:

Geezer57
12-09-2006, 15:58
Isn't it Geezer's turn?
Nah, I'll be glad to pass it on to Warluster.

The Stranger
12-09-2006, 16:31
Well, since your question is pretty global, one hint could help.

I mean they're both Royal, Human, Rulers of England, i can continue...

Warluster
12-09-2006, 22:29
Uh...Sorry Geezer57,I didnt realise it was who answered correctly, but thanks! HINT-Itis in there name!:yes:

Csargo
12-09-2006, 22:36
They were both the second.

William II and Elizabeth II

Warluster
12-09-2006, 22:39
Thats true but not the answer i am looking for

Csargo
12-09-2006, 22:42
Elizabeth is William's great-great-great-etc Grandaughter?

The Stranger
12-09-2006, 22:44
they're both queens? Queen Elizabeth and from william the coNQUErEr

Warluster
12-09-2006, 23:01
Nope, its in there name, Elizabeth the Second, William the Conquerer

Warluster
12-09-2006, 23:03
This one is really hard, i will give you more examples,

King louis the fourth , Tsar Nicolas the Second , King George the third


More examples

Csargo
12-09-2006, 23:17
They both have Duke of Normandy as part of their titles.

Warluster
12-09-2006, 23:43
The Tsar is Russian so thats not it

Csargo
12-09-2006, 23:51
Alright this makes no sense anymore.

Neither one of them is actually English?

GiantMonkeyMan
12-10-2006, 00:02
they've all got 'the' in their names?

(either that or they are all 'bastards' :clown: )

Csargo
12-10-2006, 00:04
they've all got 'the' in their names?

(either that or they are all 'bastards' :clown: )

If that's right I'm going to feel like an idiot.:bigcry:

Warluster
12-10-2006, 01:04
GiantMonkeyMan, you got it right! They all had The in there names!

Incongruous
12-10-2006, 09:23
gah, that was rather good!:2thumbsup:

Warluster
12-10-2006, 10:10
Thanks, it is sort of (well it is actually) a trick question, you look up every little detail, looking deep into there history, when it is really right in front of you! Well good on ya GiantMonkeyMan, you won!

percy13
12-10-2006, 11:41
I feel the need to be a little pedantic here and point out that Elizabeth II was not described by her contempories as having "the" in her name but that its simply historians who use "the" to denote her from the 1st etc. She was simply known as "Queen Elizabeth".

Willy on the other hand did have "the" in his title and it was used by his contempories, but it was in fact "William The Bastard" (not because he acted like one but because he was illegitimate) that was the correct term. He was only called that behind his back of course though.

I'll stop now because I'm drowning in pedantry but surely revealing these facts means I win this round and set the next question? :yes:

GiantMonkeyMan
12-10-2006, 12:23
go on then... i can't think of a question

percy13
12-10-2006, 16:50
Ok, it’s an identity to guess.

Irish born aristocrat who served in the British Army. Involved in various campaigns against “native” forces with considerable success. In his last campaign before WW1, his first action upon arriving in theatre (with his overall commander) was responsible for fully reorganising the supply structure of the army to create an unmitigated disaster. In his first battle against the “white” opposition was to ignore the previous commanders’ hard learned lessons and so take serious losses but nevertheless achieve success.

After the white opposition were effectively beaten, he began a systematic policy of “scorched earth” and other more brutal measures to suppress the guerrillas who fought on and those who may or may not have supported them. Upon bringing the enemy to peace talks he then fought a moral battle with the British Governor to achieve a fair peace (relatively speaking) against the wishes of the Governor who saw no need for peace until the enemy were obliterated and the population could then be fully Anglicised.

There is the remotest possibility he was secretely gay. This is the time when such a thing was a criminal offense.

Who is this guy?

The Stranger
12-10-2006, 18:51
:O NO FRIGGING WAY...

im gonna get you Warluster :P

percy13
12-10-2006, 19:03
I'm happy to give hints! :laugh4:

The Stranger
12-10-2006, 19:07
give then :P

btw, i dont understand this piece


In his last campaign before WW1, his first action upon arriving in theatre (with his overall commander) was responsible for fully reorganising the supply structure of the army to create an unmitigated disaster

in his last campaign before ww1, what? ended? started? did he do it in the ww1?

Motep
12-10-2006, 19:09
Herbert Kitchener?

percy13
12-10-2006, 19:20
Correct! Field Marshal Horatio Herbert Kitchener.

Arrogant control freak with as much humanity as Charles Manson. But he appears to have had great feelings for a bird he took as a pet in South Africa. Though most British Generals seem to have been along those lines in c.1900 for they refused to learn the lessons that they learnt in South Africa, that if you attack an entrenched enemy with rifles (nevermind machine guns) you tend to lose.

Your turn!

The Stranger
12-10-2006, 19:23
thats what i was going to say :P

Motep
12-10-2006, 19:25
You will have your question momentarily!

percy13
12-10-2006, 19:29
"In his last campaign before WW1, his first action upon arriving in theatre (with his overall commander) was responsible for fully reorganising the supply structure of the army to create an unmitigated disaster"

Sorry I missed this. What I meant was that the Second Boer War of 1899-1901 was the campaign he fought before WW1. There were no other campaigns after the Boer War until WW1 when he was made Secretary of State for War.

He was an odious character but in a way he had a good side for he tried to have a fair peace with the Boers while the Governor Milner was quite happy to carry the war on to the bitter end simply for the sake of his own glory. Many described Milners vision as "Pax Milner". This guy Milner actually caused the war for the sake of his own reputation.

The Stranger
12-10-2006, 19:32
well, i was a few minutes too late :P... would have known it though, just was looking for other alternatives...

Motep
12-10-2006, 20:00
Time for a "who am i" question:

I am a Great Athenian King, Reknowned warrior and hero. Once fought with Nestor, During the days of his youth. A man born of the sea, That is where my "father" died. I once sailed to crete, and there met my love.
Who am I?

Craterus
12-10-2006, 20:31
Theseus.

The Stranger
12-11-2006, 17:23
damn... i knew that... if i just stayed online longer

Craterus
12-11-2006, 17:55
Excuses, excuses...

Warluster
12-12-2006, 07:23
Quote by the Stranger-:O NO FRIGGING WAY...

im gonna get you Warluster :P-

You're gonna' get me? Run for cover :surrender:

Is the answer right?

Craterus
12-12-2006, 17:51
Of course it's right. Don't you know who I am?

Conradus
12-12-2006, 20:05
Of course it's right. Don't you know who I am?

No, but I do know that Craterus has the right answer :book:

The Foolish Horseman
12-12-2006, 20:36
who am I?

I was born in Heidenheim Germany in 1891 and was Baptised on the 17th of November the same year.

In WW1 i fought in Italy and Romania as part of the elite German unit the Alpen Korps, I recieved recognition by getting the Iron Cross 1st and 2nd class.I was also the first private to win Prussia's highest award-the Pour le merite.

In between the wars i was at the Potsdam Military Acamedy between 1935 and 1938, before enlistening back into the Army as a Field Marshal.

In the polish Campaign i was the Fuhrerbeigletbattalion commander and i also saw service in the French (1940 and 1944) and in the world Famous Afrika corp as a tank commander.


i also created the blitzkrieg formation


Guesses please

percy13
12-12-2006, 20:38
Rommel.

The Foolish Horseman
12-12-2006, 20:50
correct sir

another one here:

I was born in aldershot in 1884 and graduated from sandhurst.In 1904 i joined the 62nd Punjab regiment and during WW1 i fought in the middle East

in 1940 i was given command of the british battalion fighting in Norway and after the failure of the norwegian front, i was then commander in chief of the indian army

In july 1941 i became C in C of the british army in Africa, i was based in cairo and was also responsible for persia and the middle east

after being replaced by a field marshal (im not naming him) i was made C in C of India once more, a position i held until after the war.

i died in 1981 in morocco

Craterus
12-12-2006, 21:02
Field Marshal Claude John Eyre Auchinleck.

But it's my question.

percy13
12-12-2006, 21:09
Claude Auchinleck.

My turn, (Sorry Craterus, I guessed Rommel) Who is this:

https://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whoamixk8.jpg

Conradus
12-12-2006, 21:51
It's still Craterus' turn, he answered Theseus correctly. But if he's willing to let another one ask a question, be my guest.

Have no idea who the pictureguy is.

percy13
12-12-2006, 22:10
Oh I do apologise. I thought the Rommel question had been next. Carry on Craterus. :embarassed:

Craterus
12-12-2006, 22:42
I'll give you a question tomorrow.

Warluster
12-13-2006, 07:55
I know this is not the current question, but I have an answer to Sanders619 question. Field Marshal Alexander, replaced by Montgomery?

Csargo
12-13-2006, 22:18
Craterus give us a question

Motep
12-14-2006, 02:59
Craterus give us a question

you heard him!

Craterus
12-14-2006, 18:47
Ugh... I still don't have one that I think is difficult. Here's one to get the game rolling again:

Which English king had the nickname 'Curtmantle'?

Conradus
12-14-2006, 19:25
Henry II? Also called 'the Lion of Justice'?

Craterus
12-14-2006, 20:23
Sure... your question.

Conradus
12-14-2006, 20:38
Easy one: who built the first (Egyptean) pyramid?

Csargo
12-14-2006, 21:05
Aliens

Warluster
12-14-2006, 21:33
Easy. Pharoh Khufu reigned 2590 B.C tp 2568 B.C

Csargo
12-15-2006, 00:01
Easy. Pharoh Khufu reigned 2590 B.C tp 2568 B.C

I still stand by my answer of aliens.

Motep
12-15-2006, 03:03
I still stand by my answer of aliens.
smartass

Conradus
12-15-2006, 12:41
The aliens were close, the man was later made into a god, and no it wasn't Cheops, though you'll have to broaden your definition of pyramids. (Well, to me they are pyramids, but the name's a little tricky :surrender: :scholar: )

matteus the inbred
12-15-2006, 13:04
Surely the answer is Brian Boitano, shortly before he beat up Kublai Khan.

How could Eric Cartman be wrong?

AggonyDuck
12-15-2006, 13:31
Pharaoh Djoser and his step pyramid at Saqqara. (well actually his Vizier Imhotep built it for him)

Conradus
12-15-2006, 14:03
Imhotep is the person I was looking for, your turn AggonyDuck

AggonyDuck
12-16-2006, 13:08
Which warship was sunk by Norwegian coastal fortresses in the Oslo Fjord?

percy13
12-16-2006, 13:52
Blucher?

Motep
12-16-2006, 20:06
Blucher?

damn!

percy13
12-17-2006, 01:23
Am I right?

The Stranger
12-17-2006, 01:41
i guess

btw,

yur here from 2004 :P but you just got 24 posts... atleast 12 this last few months, how come?

percy13
12-17-2006, 03:43
I was mainly involved at the .com and at my own place and really only used this palce for modding stuff. I had no idea that there was a vibrant and intelligent community here involved in matters other than modding. Its a very pleasant surprise! Especially with the .com being so awful now.

Assuming my answer was right then:

Who is known as the "Two-Horned One" in the Qur'an?

Motep
12-17-2006, 07:22
Dhul-Qarnryn was no other than Cyrus the Great! I just remebered reding that a long time ago....

AggonyDuck
12-17-2006, 10:49
Yup, Blücher is correct.

Pannonian
12-17-2006, 11:02
I was mainly involved at the .com and at my own place and really only used this palce for modding stuff. I had no idea that there was a vibrant and intelligent community here involved in matters other than modding. Its a very pleasant surprise! Especially with the .com being so awful now.

Assuming my answer was right then:

Who is known as the "Two-Horned One" in the Qur'an?
Alexander?

Conradus
12-17-2006, 12:12
Damn, Pannonian beat me :( I'm sure Alexander the Great's the correct answer, but let's wait for Pleasy to confirm it.

percy13
12-17-2006, 16:57
Yep, Alexander!

Pannonian
12-18-2006, 09:44
Another riddle. One can find a statue of this person in Ohio, although the jewels have been Americanised. If you can, explain all the clues.

Famous father, famous sons. I turned down a crown, but I bore jewels that helped bring about the end of my society. Who am I?

Incongruous
12-19-2006, 04:53
Cornelia Scipionis Africana

I beleive.

Pannonian
12-19-2006, 16:46
Another riddle. One can find a statue of this person in Ohio, although the jewels have been Americanised. If you can, explain all the clues.

Famous father, famous sons. I turned down a crown, but I bore jewels that helped bring about the end of my society. Who am I?

Cornelia Scipionis Africana

I beleive.
Correct.

Cornelia's father was Scipio Africanus of Zama fame. She married Tiberius Gracchus the censor, and her two sons were Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus, aka the Gracchi. After her husband's death, Ptolemy VIII proposed to her, but she declined, preferring instead to bring up her children in Rome. In an apocryphal story, her friends tease her for dressingly plainly, upon which she called her sons over and declared them to be her jewels. The Gracchi, of course, helped bring about revolutionary changes that eventually led to the downfall of the Republic.

The oldest statue in the Ohio statehouse is of Cornelia, arms outstretched, declaring "These are my jewels". Instead of the Gracchi, her "children" are various distinguished figures from the early history of Ohio. The statue is known as "Ohio's Jewels".

Your turn.

The Foolish Horseman
12-20-2006, 21:49
this legendary viking supposedly died in Gainsborough, an important viking port.

he was leader of england form 1013-1014,during a power struggle with ethelered the 2

Riedquat
12-20-2006, 22:00
Sweyn Haraldssen, but the turn is over Bopa the Magyar. ;)

Motep
12-21-2006, 00:57
everybosy always asks and answers when im in bed...

Warluster
12-21-2006, 05:56
lol, He,he,he... Who's question is it?

Conradus
12-21-2006, 14:59
Bopa the Magyar's turn.

The Stranger
12-21-2006, 23:20
and that was... 2 days ago...

The Stranger
12-22-2006, 21:13
shall i do an interim question?

Craterus
12-22-2006, 22:40
Please don't.

Incongruous
12-23-2006, 03:39
Sorry guys I have been xmas shopping and thus am very tired, I'll post a question in the next 24 hours:2thumbsup:
Perhaps keeping with the festive season:beam:

The Stranger
12-23-2006, 21:11
Please don't.

i didnt know you would get angry :help:

Incongruous
12-23-2006, 22:45
She was from the south, a woman who loved a king and bore him a son.
Or she was a cloven hooved and hairy legged jin, whom lifted her skirts for fear of wetting them on reflecting floors.

Sorry for the bad riddle, but it's my first go at one:oops:

The Stranger
12-26-2006, 13:08
can you give us a hint plz

Craterus
12-29-2006, 20:26
:bump:


i didnt know you would get angry :help:

~;)

Motep
12-30-2006, 03:07
:bump:



~;)

This brings to mind a weird song by a weird al...SPAM in the place that I live!

point: Quit spamming, or Ill make you bathe in the fat that accumulates at the top of the can! :fainting:

percy13
12-30-2006, 03:21
Any more hints please? :sweatdrop:

The Stranger
12-30-2006, 15:31
yeah... plz...

Motep
12-30-2006, 18:35
come on already!

Sir_Hawkwood
12-31-2006, 13:44
Could She be Doña Marina (La Malinche)?

Sir_Hawkwood
01-02-2007, 23:24
...Er... Whats going to happen to this thread if the good member asking the question is mauled by a tram on the way home from work?...

Sarmatian
01-03-2007, 00:15
You have to present a death certificate :laugh4:

AggonyDuck
01-03-2007, 01:08
Well I might as well present a question to get this going again.

What is considered to be the single greatest maritime disaster in history?

percy13
01-03-2007, 02:05
Scuttling of the German fleet at Scapa Flow?

Csargo
01-03-2007, 02:08
Titanic?

Warluster
01-03-2007, 04:10
The Tsunami in '04?

Sarmatian
01-03-2007, 05:04
Women 60+ swimming topless?

AggonyDuck
01-03-2007, 09:43
Basically I'm after a sinking of a ship and it's ranked as the biggest maritime disaster due to it having the highest casualties of any sinking ship.

The Titanic is on the right track due to it being a ship, but compared to the sinking of the Titanic, this maritime disaster ended up killing nearly six times as many people.

Warluster
01-03-2007, 09:46
Luistania?

Warluster
01-03-2007, 09:46
The boat the Germans sunk in WW1, the one with all the Americans and British on it!

Comrade Alexeo
01-03-2007, 10:20
It's "Lusitania" Warluster.

My guess is the U.S.S. Maine, which led to the Spanish-American War. I'm clueing off of:

1) You said it's a ship
2) you said six times the number of deaths from the Titanic, which is 6x1500, which is 9000, far less than the sums of the deaths of World War I and World War II; now, it seems possible to me that the number of deaths from the Spanish-American War was around 9000 (if only because the Americans, with relatively few casualties and deaths, soundly thrashed Spain)
3) By extension one can argue that the Spanish-American War made the United States a world power, with all that that implies...

Csargo
01-03-2007, 10:26
The Wilhelm Gustloff?

AggonyDuck
01-03-2007, 10:45
Csar is correct. The sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff by a Soviet submarine on January 30th 1945 in the Baltic Sea while evacuating refugees from East Prussia is regarded as perhaps the single worst maritime disaster in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Gustloff_%28ship%29

The Stranger
01-03-2007, 20:55
I knew that :P... I saw a documentary about that on discovery a long time ago...

Csargo
01-06-2007, 02:33
Whoever posts a question next can have my turn.

Warluster
01-06-2007, 03:17
A certian place in Central America, it was the place of an famous battle which happened in the 15th century. What was the name of the battle and what year did it take place? And between what nations?

Hint-Think of Hearts!!

Motep
01-06-2007, 09:24
A certian place in Central America, it was the place of an famous battle which happened in the 15th century. What was the name of the battle and what year did it take place? And between what nations?

Hint-Think of Hearts!!


...was it when Spainish Conquistador Hernando Cortez took over the Aztec Capital of Tenochtitlan in August 1521?

Warluster
01-06-2007, 10:42
Darn it, it was an easy question!

Warluster
01-06-2007, 10:42
Yes thats correct... :Mumble Mumble:

Motep
01-06-2007, 19:19
Darn it, it was an easy question!

yes, it was.

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/Motep_the_Great/dude.jpg

Who is this man? He was a criminal here in the states. He ratted on his fellows in the mob.

Cangrande
01-07-2007, 13:00
Sammy 'the Bulll' Gravano?

Motep
01-09-2007, 04:55
Sammy 'the Bulll' Gravano?

yes, "you are" correct (this lame response was the reason I POSTED THE PICTURE)...sorry caps lock...

Cangrande
01-11-2007, 19:55
Ok, so my question...hmmm

A superpower of their time, they invented zero

Conradus
01-11-2007, 20:55
Wasn't the zero an Indian invention?

Riedquat
01-11-2007, 21:52
Babylon?

Warluster
01-11-2007, 23:07
Egypt?

Warluster
01-11-2007, 23:07
Assryia? China?

Comrade Alexeo
01-11-2007, 23:37
There are multiple answers to this question. The three best I can think of are:

The Mayans
The Arabs
The Indians

There is the concept of zero in the placeholder sense, or there is the concept of "true zero" - that is to say, a non-value integer. Key difference, and I assume you're asking for the latter.

Motep
01-12-2007, 03:45
would it be Japan? (for the plane)

The Stranger
01-12-2007, 18:09
yeah... i think yur right... very good question...it now seems totally obvious to me but i thinkthats becuz i saw yur answer before the question

Archayon
01-12-2007, 19:31
Maybe Aryabhatta (476-550), a mathematician and an astronomer in the Gupta empire (North and Central India, 4th - 6th century)? The Arabs used his books, and called the zero 'sifr', adaptation of the Sanskrit word. Some Roman languages (and Greek, i think) used that word for "number" (like chiffre in French).

Cangrande
01-13-2007, 15:20
Not there yet, tho in a sense Archayon is closest

Archayon
01-13-2007, 17:55
Not there yet, tho in a sense Archayon is closest


i think you need to define what you mean by "zero" then.

Is it "zero" as a value you can go below (like in negative values, necessary to calculate debts)
Is it "zero" as a mathematic symbol you can calculate with?
Is it "zero" as "0", the symbol?
Is it "zero" in a simple existentialistic meaning, like "nothing" ?

Anyway, in my opinion (as far as i can remember from my lessons),
Aryabhatta calculated some numbers (like pi) and introduced hereby
the zero as a number.
The practical side, like calculating debts, is a Babylonian "invention"
i think? Further researched by the Persians?



:balloon2:
Arch

Cangrande
01-13-2007, 18:36
I mean 'zero'!

You're all getting way too deep :dizzy2:

The Stranger
01-13-2007, 19:09
arabs? Japanese if you meant the plains... but thats said...

Craterus
01-13-2007, 21:16
Maybe he's talking about the word.. just an idea.

Muhammad Ibn Musa al-Khawarazmi?

Cangrande
01-13-2007, 21:57
So close but no! A bit closer to home

Craterus
01-13-2007, 22:39
Fibonacci/Leonardo of Pisa?

Motep
01-14-2007, 09:44
The creator? (my god, But I have no idea what your religion is, so I am leaving it at that)

Cangrande
01-14-2007, 13:01
Nope! But getting warmer Craterus!

The Stranger
01-14-2007, 13:45
are you talking about 2 people? or a family...? BEcause you said in your first post. They invented?

Medici? Italians? Romans? Greek? Germans? FRench? English? Spanish? :P

the Pope? :hide:

Duke Malcolm
01-14-2007, 14:52
Ptolemy?

Cangrande
01-14-2007, 15:08
Last clue.

European merchants, they also gave us the sequin

Duke Malcolm
01-14-2007, 15:40
Venice folk?

Cangrande
01-14-2007, 15:47
It is with much pleasure...and relief..that I say,we have a winner!

Over to you!

Duke Malcolm
01-14-2007, 18:17
Really? Venice folk? I thought it was the Mesopotamians or the Greeks or an Indian chap...

I can't think of a question, so I leave it open to whomever first decides and posts a question.

Cangrande
01-14-2007, 18:25
It's the word 'zero', the Italians called it 'zefiro' but it got mutated to 'zero' by the Venetians.

Moros
01-14-2007, 19:39
If my memory serves me well the concept of zero was firstly used in India.

Innocentius
01-14-2007, 19:47
Really? Venice folk? I thought it was the Mesopotamians or the Greeks or an Indian chap...

I can't think of a question, so I leave it open to whomever first decides and posts a question.

Right then:
I was a major character of a long-lasting war, and I often saved the faith that I belonged to. Although I am known as a great military commander, I always wished for piece among my brethren so that our common enemies could be defeated. This was never to be unfortunatley, and in the end I was murdered by my own ruler.

Craterus
01-14-2007, 20:03
Jesus!

Cangrande
01-14-2007, 20:48
If my memory serves me well the concept of zero was firstly used in India.

That's nice!

It wasn't the question though :laugh4:

Cangrande
01-14-2007, 20:49
Bellisarius?

Innocentius
01-14-2007, 21:07
Bellisarius?

Som of it fit in with Belisarius, yes. It's not him I had in mind though.

AggonyDuck
01-14-2007, 21:09
Albrecht von Wallenstein?

Csargo
01-14-2007, 21:10
Right then:
I was a major character of a long-lasting war, and I often saved the faith that I belonged to. Although I am known as a great military commander, I always wished for piece among my brethren so that our common enemies could be defeated. This was never to be unfortunatley, and in the end I was murdered by my own ruler.

Joan of Arc maybe?

The Stranger
01-14-2007, 21:37
maybe a 30 year war person?

Innocentius
01-14-2007, 22:26
Albrecht von Wallenstein?

You got it.

AggonyDuck
01-15-2007, 00:15
What was the name of the British destroyer that rammed and damaged the German heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper in April 1940? Also what was the name of the destroyer's commanding officer who posthumously received the VC?

Warluster
01-15-2007, 04:01
the britsh ship as called Glowworm, 8th of april 1940

AggonyDuck
01-15-2007, 17:28
You didn't answer my questions completely. ~;)

percy13
01-15-2007, 17:44
Roope.

Give it to Warluster though as I cheated and looked it up.

AggonyDuck
01-15-2007, 19:09
Okay then. Your question then Warluster.

Warluster
01-15-2007, 22:59
Well, lets see,hm....
Who was Little Johnny? And what year was he born?

The Stranger
01-16-2007, 20:07
since when is looking things up cheating?

Craterus
01-16-2007, 20:29
It's a quiz. Best to give the people who actually know the answer a chance before you start googling?

Innocentius
01-16-2007, 22:02
since when is looking things up cheating?

Since ever? The point of a quiz is to test knowledge, not googling-abilites.

Motep
01-19-2007, 01:54
I wonder if the "Little Johnny" is the charachter used in dirty jokes?

Warluster
01-19-2007, 09:55
Hint- Lived in the 20th century, his secratary became famous

The Stranger
01-19-2007, 23:17
JFK? john f kennedy?

Warluster
01-19-2007, 23:21
nope, its a nickname

The Stranger
01-20-2007, 12:19
bill clinton?

Cangrande
01-20-2007, 12:26
Harold Wilson?

Hitler?

Warluster
01-20-2007, 12:28
1930s Chicago, an certian nickname, he was involved with what become a big crook

The Stranger
01-20-2007, 12:43
hmmm a all capone's buddy?

Motep
01-20-2007, 18:26
Johnny Torrio?

Warluster
01-21-2007, 09:51
Uh well, The_Stranger got it right sort of, but Motep actually got the name, I dont know, everyone, who do you reckon should get next question out of Stranger and Motep?

AggonyDuck
01-21-2007, 13:18
Motep had the more exact answer. Al Capone prolly had several buddies, so TS answer could mean any of them.

Craterus
01-21-2007, 14:24
Whoever gets here first... ~;)

Motep
01-21-2007, 20:05
HA! :grin2:


Which reknowned general got his military start in the 4th regiment of the French Army in the Franco-Prussian wr?

Conradus
01-21-2007, 20:13
Foch?

Motep
01-21-2007, 20:14
Foch?

I knew that one was to easy....your go...:bigcry:

Conradus
01-21-2007, 21:41
It was Foch? Wow, I'm a lucky guesser.:scholar:

In which ancient authors work can you find tales about the Gold Age of Men, Narcissus and Ceres' daughter?

Motep
01-22-2007, 02:02
Ovid?

The Stranger
01-22-2007, 11:07
Seneca :P... its probably Ovidius... There is another one who it could be... but I forgot his name...

:S I'm always to late for the Whoever Gets Here First Race.

Craterus
01-22-2007, 19:46
Tsssh, you won the race to the egg, what are you complaining about? ~;)
And that's like the most important Whoever-Gets-Here-First race. Live off your glory days; it's what Bob Geldof has been doing for the last 20 years.

The Stranger
01-22-2007, 21:09
tsss... Stop being a smartass! :D

Craterus
01-22-2007, 21:12
tsss... Stop being a smartass! :D

Quizzes have that effect on people... :scholar:

Conradus
01-23-2007, 20:23
Lord Motep, you have the honor of asking the next question.

Motep
01-25-2007, 04:21
Who was the fourth of the Hanan dynasty?

(is this one better?)

Csargo
01-25-2007, 04:22
Jesus is the answer too all.

Motep
01-25-2007, 04:24
Jesus is the answer too all.

Thats a wacky philosophy...:sweatdrop:

Csargo
01-25-2007, 05:11
Who was the fourth of the Hanan dynasty?

(is this one better?)

Wing wong ching chong?

AggonyDuck
01-25-2007, 16:06
Pachacuti

Motep
01-26-2007, 00:22
Pachacuti

Obviosly I suck at making questions. Its your go.

Csargo
01-26-2007, 04:43
I was sooooo close

Motep
01-26-2007, 14:54
I was sooooo close


:inquisitive:

AggonyDuck
01-26-2007, 17:44
I'm looking for an historical person.

This person was the first Briton to set foot on Japan. He helped the Shôgun to build the first Japanese ships of a western type. He also became a close and trusted advisor of the Shôgun in matters related to western trade and diplomacy; eventually he received the title of hatamatoand became a direct retainer of the Shôgun. He was the first foreigner to become a samurai. He helped organise the Dutch-Japanese and Anglo-Japanese trade and made several Japanese Red Seal trade expeditions along the coasts of South East Asia. He remained in Japan for the rest of his life and died there.

So who is the person I'm looking for?