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Csargo
12-14-2006, 20:53
Csar https://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1058/emotarghbr6.gif messing with us.

Well I'm glad I didn't horribly misread the situation. My only mistake was believing csar :shame:

:tongue3:

Hmm I find it hard to believe that anyone believed my kills. I'm such a horrible liar after all. Especially since I didn't let PP protect someone. But I figured that would be realistic I mean he was killed first. I mean WTH@!@@!@@#@:beam:

Reenk Roink
12-14-2006, 20:57
...

See, I told you you were mafia. You just don't listen :p

Good, I didn't like to think you'd screw over the town like that. Well it was certainly dramatic.

Reenk though, we didn't suspect you at all until you sent that pm. We would probably have investigated Sir Moody or X. Still, you might have had a lot of trouble in the round of 3 with everyone else confirmed innocent I guess.

Yep, but I knew Sigurd's post would eventually come and bite me, if not in that round. So I was essentially screwed, and I tried to get close to Kage as one last grasp. Didn't work out... :shrug:

Sasaki Kojiro
12-14-2006, 21:02
I'd have probably said "cool" even if I didn't know who Phill was btw. I should have realized that would seem suspicious to you though.

You play a tricky game Reenk https://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4782/emotrockjy8.gif

Dutch_guy
12-14-2006, 21:05
Well, the last hour and a half have been quite.... strange...:inquisitive:

:balloon2:

Kagemusha
12-14-2006, 21:11
Ahh.Sorry about my harsh words Reenk.Im just really sore looser and i have quite of temperament in me.:bow: Im really happy we won this game also the facts that i could reveal myself to individual people and found out roles in my investigations gave me lot more to play with my role.When the game started i couldnt believe that i got Prole in the first round. Since the first round the person i was most suspicious about was Csar, since it was too good to be true getting Prole and during the whole game i kept nagging to him that i suspected whether or not i was even the real detective. Also Ignoramus stunt in the middle game extended my paranoia even more.About my reveal, you should re-read my post about my strategy before i revealed myself. Since i was pretty sure that i would be traded on Prole.Basicly killed after or before her. I can still remember what happened to me against Sasaki vividly.I choosed to try to get an ally and from GeneralHankerchief i got an great one. First he helped me a lot to get the towns support and then by dying in hands of the mafia he garnered lot more support for me. In the endgame before i found Phil i was very worried about the fact that Reenk kept killing the same people i was investigating. But at this point i had Sasaki on my side. And i wouldnt be sure whether or not the end result would have been this without him and his work behind the scenes.:bow: Yesterday after Reenk had contacted me i was completely sure about town victory,but for the last time in this game Csar succeeded fooling me that things didnt go how i thought. I was so frustrated and angry that i had to get out of the chat and Org ,before i might say something i would regret and still today i was angry to Reenk how he could sabotage our game so badly. So my apologies to everyone for my harsh words. But in the end thanks for all the players and Csar for this great game!And cheers for the town we are Victorius!~:cheers:

Crazed Rabbit
12-14-2006, 21:15
*pops into thread*

Man, this is the stangest mafia game I've ever seen...anyways...


Knocked off Kommodus in the first game, almost exactly as I knocked off Kommodus in Mafia V. While I really thought he would post less, it turned out to kill me in Mafia V (though he pretty much ignored Csar’s game for some reason).

Ha! You killed him in both games and got him angry enough to go after you. ~;p

Don - Kage's reveal was very similar to when he revealed early in Godfather 2 (I think).

Crazed Rabbit

Don Corleone
12-14-2006, 21:35
So, at the end of the day, I should have believed Kagemusha because.... he said he was the detective? And it was suspicious of me to not just accept him at his word? Has anybody thought about how that's going to play out next time Kagemusha is mafia, not actually detective?

Sasaki Kojiro
12-14-2006, 21:37
So, at the end of the day, I should have believed Kagemusha because.... he said he was the detective? And it was suspicious of me to not just accept him at his word? Has anybody thought about how that's going to play out next time Kagemusha is mafia, not actually detective?

Yes. Kage claims, real detective claims, we lynch both. Good for town. It's the late game claims and the under pressure claims you have to watch out for.

Kommodus
12-14-2006, 21:38
Heh, nice ending everyone! :laugh4: I guess it's just out of style to let a Mafia game be over when it's over, huh?

Congratulations to the once-again victorious town, especially Kagemusha and Sasaki who were very effective in their pursuit of the mafia! Kage, you had some notable good breaks - identifying Proletariat in round 1 and learning of Peasant Phill's identity - and you put them all to good use. I apologize for abandoning this game and not being around to help the town, but in the end you didn't need me. :2thumbsup:

Congratulations to the mafia, Reenk Roink and Proletariat, on a game well-played. Prole, you sure had a tough break in the beginning, getting sniped by the detective before the game could get started. I would've liked to see what you could've done had you been mafia for longer - hopefully you get another chance.

And Reenkazoid, what can I say? You really don't like me much, do you? :skull:


Knocked off Kommodus in the first game, almost exactly as I knocked off Kommodus in Mafia V. While I really thought he would post less, it turned out to kill me in Mafia V (though he pretty much ignored Csar’s game for some reason).

Just kidding; I know it was all strategy and not personal. In this game it worked; my death caused me to abandon it. I'm not sure why; I guess I didn't feel like whispering from the dead in more than one game at a time.

You also had a tough break with Kage finding out about Peasant Phill's identity as the doctor. You certainly couldn't have predicted that. Who knows whether or not your deception would've worked, had it not been for that? But you certainly played the end-game stunt like a pro. :dizzy2:

Finally, thanks are in order to Csar for a game well-moderated. It was your first time, and I think you will get better, but this was not a bad first start at all. I respectfully disagree with your choice to give Kage the identity of Peasant Phill - in most games the detective only gets a guilty or innocent verdict, not the precise role of the target. But I think that overall, the game was fair regardless, and it was fun.

This game had a rather low level of discussion in the beginning, and I thought the mafia would take it... but ya'll came back and put the smack-down on the dastardly mafia once again! Three cheers! :balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:

Csargo
12-14-2006, 21:43
Finally, thanks are in order to Csar for a game well-moderated. It was your first time, and I think you will get better, but this was not a bad first start at all. I respectfully disagree with your choice to give Kage the identity of Peasant Phill - in most games the detective only gets a guilty or innocent verdict, not the precise role of the target. But I think that overall, the game was fair regardless, and it was fun.



Well this is how I looked at it. If the detective could figure out if people were mafia then why couldn't he figure out who the Doctor is. It just seemed logical to me.

Thanks everyone for playing my game and I'll probably host another one, but it might be a little while before I do. I plan on making it somewhat different and probably adding a couple of twist's but I'll have to work all that out. Until next time so long.

Sigurd
12-15-2006, 00:02
You don't know how close you were to winning this Reink.
From the chat with Sasaki I understand you were not on the radar at all.

The Suspects in this game were Xiahou and Don for the last mafioso.
Kage was going to investigate Xiahou and probably Don next.
I had suspicions for Disco due to his strange posting in Mafia V and would probably press him for a while. I also had suspicions for Don due to his 'mix-up' between GH's game and Csar's.
I was searching Mafia V for clues on Disco and Don when I saw your post...

- Reinkmaister, this should be a lesson for you -


Some players are better left alive in a game as they will work against each other.
Never leave intentional clues in a game.

Brilliant strategy Reink on keeping it simple in Csar's game.. but the doctor thing was a panic mistake, if you had told Sasaki that you were a townie we would have had a hard time lynching you ;as I said there were other more suspicious fish out there.

Reenk Roink
12-15-2006, 00:59
You don't know how close you were to winning this Reink.
From the chat with Sasaki I understand you were not on the radar at all.

The Suspects in this game were Xiahou and Don for the last mafioso.
Kage was going to investigate Xiahou and probably Don next.
I had suspicions for Disco due to his strange posting in Mafia V and would probably press him for a while. I also had suspicions for Don due to his 'mix-up' between GH's game and Csar's.
I was searching Mafia V for clues on Disco and Don when I saw your post...

- Reinkmaister, this should be a lesson for you -


Some players are better left alive in a game as they will work against each other.
Never leave intentional clues in a game.

Brilliant strategy Reink on keeping it simple in Csar's game.. but the doctor thing was a panic mistake, if you had told Sasaki that you were a townie we would have had a hard time lynching you ;as I said there were other more suspicious fish out there.

Gah, I would have never done the doctor thing if it wasn't for you and that statement. While I would be able to survive one or two rounds, eventually it would catch up with me. Nice sleuthing Sig. :bow:

It's funny how intertwined these games were:

In Mafia V I got caught partly because I killed Kommodus twice in quick succession, and he went on my tail.

In Rise of The Mob I got caught because of a suspicious statement I made in the other game.

The first one I couldn't have foreseen, but the second was a mistake; even though it wasn't exactly the meaning Sig claimed it to be, it sure did sound suspicious. :shame:


Well this is how I looked at it. If the detective could figure out if people were mafia then why couldn't he figure out who the Doctor is. It just seemed logical to me.

You're right mate, it is logical, but I think the problem is that your game is like GH's, so I would guess your detective PM's were like his. Plus the fact that GH's games are generally the toughest and your game is even tougher than his with the doctor. I really didn't expect Kage to have investigated the doctor when I made my claim. I knew Sasaki would be suspicious, but convincing Kage would be easier, and that would be my shot at surviving Sigurd's charge... Too bad all my plans failed... :shame: