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Scotsmanforlife
12-20-2006, 13:14
I'm having a lot of fun playing this game and would just like to hear from
others the best moments they've had playing. Even though i lost the most fun i've had was playing the Scots so far. I tried going the peaceful route with the english but it backfired on me. :whip:
pevergreen
12-20-2006, 13:35
I havent had that many compared to RTW but my final defences are so much fun. Its like Braveheart or LOTR. 2 bodyguard and general defending large city (not starting force, that was all thats left) vs over 600. The General walks around the entire city, waving it goodbye, arrows thumping around him. He makes his way to the middle, and charges headlong into over 400 spears and 100 archers. *sniff*
i recently had an epic battle outside of jerusalem. I fought 3 sizable egyptian armies with one crusade stack of my own, my kings crusade army ( which I let the ai control) + a hungarian crusading stack.
my army was mainly made up of crusader nights and 4 mercenary horse archers (turkopoles?) and I moved them swiftly around the map, I destroyed the first egyptian force on my own, the largest egyptian force engaged the hungarian army and I charged them in the back and then finally all three allied armies ganged up on the final egyptian force and uterly destroyed it. Lots of glorious charges by knights! after that jerusalem was free for the taking.
This was the first occasion where crusading has actually been a challenge. i took my time getting there as i got embroiled fighting the backstabbing byzantines and turks on my way to target. i noticed poish, milanese and hungarian forces go past me and i thought i had messed up and missed out on the crusade target. it turned out the egyptians had several large stacks right next to jerusalem and they saw off a couple of crusading forces. i was playing a edited version of a royal arms mod which has extra provinces on the standard sized map + shaba wangy diplomacy mod + some unit modifications of my own - and i think there must have been something in there that made the egyptains richer and able to defend themelves properly. They still have damascus and gaza, which are defended by full stacks which never usually happens - deffinately more of a challenge + more fun.
in the same camapign i took the turkish city of aleppo on my way to jerusalem and left it guarded by 3 crusader seargents, one dismounted crusader knight and one 12men unit of high experience mailed knights. I successfully repelled a 3/4 stack turkish army which included two catupualts. that was deffinately my most fun seige defence as the odds werer so bad. only the knights and 50 seargents survived.
chunkynut
12-20-2006, 15:27
The last stands are certainly the best on the whole but I've had more enjoyable field battles as well.
The mongols give a great challange and I decided that of the three stacks near my city I would attack the middle one (all three were close enough on the map to re-enforce the each other) .... bad move. I had an uphill run to the 'middle' army and there was an army behind to the left and behind to the right. My first thoughts were 'f**k', my second thoughts were get up the hill take out the 'middle' army and turn and face off the others ... massive attrition on all sides their archers took a major slice out of me and my knights gouged at them but in the end their numbers won through. Very difficult but enjoyable.
Most of the best city seiges I've played have been against the mongols too.
Most memorable?
Game crashing in battles, just when I have finished my modding of the game (no it isn't the mod as it doe this in vanilla as well).
Best moment ... when I won an MP battle where I was on the losing end the entire battle really, untill I charged my remaining cav into his general and won.
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I guess the most memorable moments must be those when the sexy Chinese delivery chick arrives with the DUCK (!) in Orange Sauce.
King Azzole
12-20-2006, 15:54
Most memorable moment... yes well it would have to be the first battle loss I have had (non-intentional) since STW.
I was playing as spain and rushed an equal amount of units to Valencias units in the hope of using my Kings command stars and good tactics to overcome even odds. Well... it didnt work out quite as planned. I broke down the gates and charged in. Soon my king was engaged with Jinetes and El Cid himself, while my spearmen were hit from behind by the defenders coming down from the walls. After killing many Jinetes and Royal Knights I just could not kill El Cid. Sensing my Kings imminant death and seeing my spearmen were being whittled down to nothing I withdrew my king from the battle. He and only ONE other Royal Knight survived. El Cid rode down the few spearmen that tried to flee and executed them.
I returned a few years later with a new army, and finally El Cid was defeated. But it was truly memorable. I even remember sitting in front of my monitor and giving out a chuckle because I was beat fair and square.
Hashashiyyin
12-20-2006, 16:14
I guess the most memorable moments must be those when the sexy Chinese delivery chick arrives with the DUCK (!) in Orange Sauce.
That sounds like a memorable moment I'd recreate a few times a day and just get fat on chinese food! Honestly, if you don't get chinese delivery tonight I'd be disappointed in you!
as far as in game goes, my most memorable moment was with the french knight, Henri the honest, who apparently though the turks were just some pagan heathens.
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GreatWarrior
12-20-2006, 17:51
For me it was a battle between one single general unit that I was trying to move from one city to another. And well some rebels show up about 600 of them, the rebel army was something like 1 unit of archer cavalry, the rest were town militia and spear militia I think.
Halfway through moving my general I get attacked, so I withdrawn and I get cornered in the mountins, so I had to fight. I placed my bodyguard high in the mountins.
First the cavalry archers attack and I charge, killing some of them then they retreat as do I. Then they try another wave and I charge again killing more then half of their unit they retreat. By that time the rest of the army comes into the mountins. I prepare for the charge. I charge them killing a lot of them. It was a good charge coming down from the mountins. I killed a lot but then all their units catch up so I retreat back into the higher mountins. Then comes the last charge. Another great charge killing a lot of the rebels. Well after killing maybe 150 or 200 of them they get scared and run away. I managed to kill most of them when they were running away. So the final outcome was 500 of tem dead and only like 3 or 4 of my generals bodyguard dead.
Another memorable moment was siegieng rebel castle. My army wasn't that great but had a spy open the gates. Charged the castle. Battle was even, by the end the rebels had 2 mailed knights left and a few spearmen against like 20 town militia that I had and some archers and my guys got scared and ran away. I shouldn't have withdrew my general earlier who had 4 guys left. So i lost.
Morindin
12-20-2006, 20:39
I started a new campaign using Lusted's mod as the Byzantines on M/VH.
On turn 2, I took the great Emperor Alexius, with 8 command stars, and soon captured the fortress of Sofia. With the Hungarians bearing down quickly I decided to storm the castle, so I could move on to more conquests.
In Vanilla, after you take the province you can govern it with little worry. In Lusted's mod, religious unrest is increased. Hence, after the mighty Emperor took the province, despite his influence, it rioted due to being a heavy catholic nation. Nothing could be done about the situation until next turn.
Next turn comes around, reinforcements are en-route to put the happiness in the green, but low and behold, mighty Emperor Alexius, whom my hopes of western expansion rested on, died in the riots.
I sat there stunned for a little while...
My 8 star night fighting faction leader killed by rioting pesants on turn 5. Maybe a tile hit him on the head? ;)
Scotsmanforlife
12-21-2006, 06:11
Well last night i had a great fight against the poles. I had just taken one of their cities a few turns before and i guess they didn't appreicate it. Not sure why? :beam: So they attacked me witha full stack, mostly militia spearmen with some peasants and a few units of heavy cavalry. i thought it would be an easy fight since i had 4 general units, 4 Knights Templar units, and like 6 sergeant Spearman units. I guess i underestimated them a tad bit. I placed too much faith
in the templar units, but they seemed(to me) to get cut down pretty easily.
They broke through my walls and launched a full scale attack. I had positioned all my spearmen and peasants by the entrance until they took down the walls, then pulled them back to the town's center. While i had my generals on the right side of the city and the Templars on the left. What i like to do is bring all my mounted troops out of the gates on the sides of the city and bring them around so that i have the enemy flanked. So while they are moving into the city to get at my foot troops, my mounted ones are coming at them from behind. Usually works pretty well, not this time. I lost almost all 4 of my templars units, and most of my foot troops. Amazingly i managed to keep all my generals alive. I ended winning the fight but just barely. I had a lot of fun with this fight.
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I have a couple, 1 was in my spain campaign in Antioch, the Turmuids had invaded, and bore down on the city, first seige was fought back and destroyed, next stack, kill off, third stack they fought valiently but with there dwindling numbers were unable to protect the "holy land", but had killed over 2 stacks and 2 turmid kings... not bad for no general :D
The other one was when I retook Venice from the Milanese(sp?) in my erm Venice campaign, it wasnt much a fight but watching those men run towards there formal capitals broken gates was just memorablel, of course I had every single Milaneese slaugtered
Playing as the french a stack of Danish bezerkers and mounted cleric melted my 3 unit deep spear wall and slaughtered every man woman and child in the city of Antwerp
again as the french having landed outside Antioch on Crusade - to be greeted by the mongol horde
it was late in the afternoon - the sun was setting blood red
in the distance
their many banners rippled in the wind
we were mesmerised by their dance of death
our men fell where they stood in neat little squares in formation
having cut us down to half our size - the dance over - they vanished into the desert sands
First time I saw catapults hitting the enemy. Even better was the first time I saw the mortar type cannons (bombards?) hit enemy troops and watched the men fly up in the air when a shell exploded on them. I laughed like a little kid when I saw that. The little in-game movies of the spies are another. Those are a few of early memories for me. :2thumbsup:
Daveybaby
12-21-2006, 14:52
For me it ws during my first campaign as the english. After conquering bordeaux i moved a couple of generals out of the castle to build watchtowers on my newly expanded borders. As one lone general built his watchtower it revealed a nearby half full stack of french troops. And then i noticed that the general was in fact my king and he had used up all of his movement points. Oh dear.
So at the end of the turn the french stack attacks. I cannot retreat, so i think "i may as well try to take as many as possible with me" and prepare to fight. Hilly terrain, me: 1 king with about 40 bodyguard knights. Enemy: 2 units dismounted feudal knights, 2 peasants, 1 armoured sergeants, 1 crossbow, 1 ballista.
Proceeded to lead the enemy army on a merry chase around the hills in an effort to tire them out and spread them out a bit. Managed to get the crossbows isolated and attacked them, but lost quite a few knights to crossbow fire in the progress and got a bit bogged down fighting, since i didnt want to withdraw, reform and charge as this would expose me to further fire. Finally routed the crossbows, which was a relief as they had whittled my forces down to about 30 knights, not good at this early stage of proceedings.
At this point the ballista was starting to really annoy me, taking out the odd knight here and there, so i managed to get around behind the rest of their forces and take most of them out. Unfortunately, in my haste i neglected to notice a unit of peasants nearby who managed catch up to attack me from behind while i was taking out the ballista crew. Eventually i managed to rout the peasants, but at the cost of now being down to about 20 knights. Also there were still 4 or 5 ballista crew left who, annoyingly, did not rout, and would proceed to take the odd pot shot at me for the rest of the battle.
The rest of the battle was a matter of getting uphill from the enemy units, forming up, waiting for the enemy to get to the right distance, and charge. Over and over again. It was during this battle that i mastered the art of the perfect charge. Also, because i was letting my enemy come to me, i was able to rest my knights while the enemy were progressively becoming more and more exhausted. Even so, it was a battle of attrition, and i was losing 1 or 2 knights for each charge even though i was killing many more each time.
Eventually though I routed the final unit of DFKs, having just 5 of my bodyguard remaining. Final toll was about 400 enemy to 35 knights. My king got quite a few good traits and experience points after that.
PureFodder
12-21-2006, 15:07
After smashing the Scots, plundering the Portugeese, destroying the Danes and foiling the French my all powerful English armies saw a Milanese army for the first time.
"Look Sire, they come with nothing but crossbowmen from Genoa with a silly shield on their backs!" "This will be a prime opportunity to give our newly recruited army of dismounted English knights a chance to wet their blades!"
20 minutes, a mountain of corpses and one embarrasing defeat later I decided that my swordsmen/longbow armies were probably a better option.:wall:
Dark_Magician
12-21-2006, 16:01
I'm having a lot of fun playing this game and would just like to hear from
others the best moments they've had playing.
I was most pleasantly surprised when I started as the Egiptians on VH/VH and looking at initial set up of the kingdom found out that the imam I was given in the beginning already had Jihad capability. Though available Jihad units were not overly impressive, they were cheap and thanks to this uber unit I could counter-Jihad the first Crusade against Jerusalem and, in second Jihad - early in the game as well - was able to briefly take Constantinople sailing away with astounding 37 000 plunder gold.
John Johnston
12-21-2006, 16:05
Watching as my Imperial cannons (bombards, if I remember right) lined up behind the breach made in their wooden fort by a legion of Timurids. Two cannons lined up behind the breach, unfortunately, they were at a slight angle, rather than side-by-side, which meant that the chap loading the front cannon was in direct line-of-fire for the back cannon.
Time after time a loader would step forward to the front cannon and load it... just in time to get blown away by the back cannon firing... until they were nearly all gone, leaving a pile of corpses by the side of the cannon.
Now that's dedication. :yes:
The battle was eventually won, after great slaughter in the streets.
Nutranurse
12-22-2006, 02:41
Most memorable....
Well when I modded swords out of Pikemen and went itno my campaign. A few turns in I am fighting the Scotts (I am Portugal, after taking out Spain and the Moors I decided "Hey lets go kill some Brits and Scots:idea2: ). I had forgot that I had modded the Pikemen and I sent a ton of cavalry over there...In one battle my royal family was cut in half...:sweatdrop:
Definitely most memorable moment for me was finding the damn "units won't chase down and kill routing enemies" bug in in v1.0 playing as England. If it weren't for that (#@$)#@#*&$ bug I would have torn Scotland to shreds in that siege battle. Tried it at least 2 more times, same effect. That left a VERY bad taste in my mouth... that and the idiotic unit cohesion are almost singlehandedly what caused me to shelve the game until the 1.1 patch. Thankfully both seem to be fixed for the most part.
Scotsmanforlife
12-22-2006, 15:24
/bump
General Zhukov
12-26-2006, 03:04
Most memorable battle so far:
I had taken the Citadel of Steffan form the Danes, and they were moving up an army from the south to retake it. One of my other armies met them near the river that flows SW of Steffan, while two units of knights inside Steffan rode out to reinforce me.
On the battle map, the river seperated my Spanish troops and the Danes, with only a small, shallow bed for a crossing. The Danes, predictably, lined up on the other side of the river, and, with their large regiments of crossbowmen, waited for my army to cross. It was Utah Beach. I tested this by sending across a unit of Alumghavars, and they were shot dead before getting close (you cannot maneuver them inside the riverbed).
What about those knights from Steffan? They appeared on the other side of the map from me, hidden in the trees far behind the Danes. The knights crept up, and crept close, until their presence was detected as they approached the enemy rear! Though I lost the opportunity to sodomize them, the Danes still split their forces to meet the new threat.
Which was of course all the opening I needed to dash my army across the river and mop them up.
I've got another one where three Egyptian armies pinched my crusader stack outside Jerusalem. But, it seems everbody has fought that battle so why bother? :clown:
General Zhukov
12-26-2006, 03:21
Think I meant Omaha Beach, ah well.
Melanie T.
12-26-2006, 03:34
User-Defined mission. Scottish V English (I always play Scotland...I'm from Ullapool).
Set it all up that I would seige, with the AI defending. Towers, catapults, ladders, the works...twice over.
So I'm all ready for a long and drawn out battle. Fresh cup of coffee at my side, and my Knightly kitty asleep at my feet.
First barrage is the rather childish act of throwing half a cow at the City Hall (or whatever it's called). Barely did anything. Before I remembered to stop the action, they started hurling balls of fire.
The first barrage killed the General, sitting on his horse at the Town Square.
The rest was just too easy. After winning the battle, I reset it and played again. Finally lost, since I forgot to take out a few key defenses before sending in my other seige equipment.
I could imagine the Generals speech:
"Men, I can promise you nothing but---what's that?"
~Mel
RtkBedivere
12-26-2006, 03:49
I was playing a bridge battle in my portugese campain and had about a 1/3 stack attacked by two 3/4 stacks.
Anyway im going into this thinking there is no way im gonna manage to beat these odds even though i have the bridge they are crossing (i had some xbows but no arch for fire arrows, i wish i had though :wall: ) Anyway about 25 minutes later the AI was down to about 2 full units of catapults, a bombard and 3 20 men units of pavise crossbows that i would rout and then they would regroup. All i had left was a single man. My lonly general left on the field.
He was horirble exhused but so was everything else on the feild after charging and chasing all their xbows off the feild i hid my general in some woods and triple speeded so that he would get bakc to fresh. When he was ready i started my charge about 15 seconds from contact with the first of the wavering catapults he got hit with a fire shot and died.
Theres still a hole in the drywall next to my desk :oops:
Scotsmanforlife
12-29-2006, 12:10
:bump:
yesdachi
12-29-2006, 17:55
I just got excommunicated for the first time.
You never forget your first. ~D
Back in my Spanish campaign, I took Jerusalem in a crusade. I already had Antioch and Acre when the crusade was called, so I could get there quickly. When a spy showed that the city was minimally defended (1 general and 1 arab cavalry) I didn't bother with quality, only quantity. I went with a general, a bunch of turkomans, a couple of spanish units (I forget exactly what) and the rest was pilgrims and religious fanatics, with 2 units of unhorsed knights for muscle. I let the pilgrims do most of the dying, and captured the city. I moved the general and the turkomans out and left the remainder there to garrison the city, minimally reinforcing the garrison with some peasant archers and pavise crossbowmen brought in from Acre, and moved on.
Years later, still at war with Egypt, they show up with a full stack army to assault the city, and all I have is crap troops (2 religious fanatics, 5 pilgrims, 2 unhorsed knights, 3 pavise crossbowmen, 2 peasant archers, and the remaining 6 units spear militia). They have 2 generals, 5 units of tabardariyya, a unit of mamluk archers, 3 trebuchets, 2 catapults, and 7 units of saracen militia, and I have to defend the city. I decided not to try and defend the walls, as those are going to be crushed by all that artillery. I left the missile troops on the walls where they killed one general, then fell back to the square when they ran out of ammo. I used the rest to block the streets, pilgrims first, and left the unhorsed knights in side streets to hit flanks. In the end, I suffered horrendous casualties, but managed to kill their entire army and won the fight.
Kraggenmor
01-04-2007, 16:41
I've had a number of memorable battles but the one instance that I know is going to remain in my mind forever is this:
Playing as Spain I was laying a seige, I honestly forget at what town, it wasn't the where that matters.
The siege was meant to be a relatively inconsequential thing in the scheme of things. Another siege that just needs to happen. The defending force was small and I had actually planned to just wait them out while dealing with things elsewhere.
The defenders decided to sally forth and the ensuing fight was going predictably. They march, we march. They charge, we charge One by one the outnumbered abd outclassed foes beging routing back to the safety of their walls.
The last unit actively engaged with my troops is their general when I get the "The enemy general disgraces himself and flees the field while his men fight on."
"Actually it's his men that abandoned him" I respond. I figure some of the routed troops must have recovered while inside the walls.
I zoom in on the view I have of the troops chasing the General as he flees back to the town when it happens....
Just as he is drawing near, the gates slam shut and his horses slam headlong into the closed gates!
I actually had to pause the game stop playing while laughing that one off.
Guess he wasn't too popular with the troops, eh?
Poor fella.
Heh, that's funny. Actually it's a deliberate change from RTW. In Rome, routers running back into the city could be chased through the gates by pursuers, resulting in the loss of the city. In M2, if there are enemy units anywhere near, the gates will not open to let the routers in. In your case, the gate was already open, but closed when the pursuers came near. I'm sure they AI wound up losing the city anyway, but it made sallying somewhat more of a gamble in RTW. If you did more than fire from the walls at the besiegers, you ran the risk of allowing the enemy into the city. Now, that won't happen, although you can lose units outside that won't make it back in.
I kind of miss that feature. It actually happened several times in history where fleeing troops were unable to shut the gates in time and allowed their pursuers to overrun the city; Alexander's sack of Thebes is a possible example. Of course then you'd lose half your army passing through the gateway as the enemy unloads his inexhaustible reservoirs of boiling oil on their heads...
Midnight
01-04-2007, 22:05
My Scottish armies (2 stacks) against 3 stacks of French - I took command of King Edward's army, and prepared to meet the enemy in the field. I found myself fighting halfway up a mountain, with French armies at the top and at the base to the sides, and then I get a message, "Reinforcements delayed." Argh!
I formed two fronts, placing my archers to try to counter the French missiles, which were in the army above. I used Edward and his 4 units of Feudal Knights, backed by some of my Spearmen and Highlander infantry to charge downhill at the stronger advancing side army, while the rest of my men (including some Pikes) attempted to hold off the remainer.
The Knights didn't last long, and Edward lost all his bodyguard and had to retreat, while my infantry were performing pretty well (ie, not running away), but it didn't look too good, even though I was exacting a heavy toll on the French, they were bleeding me dry. Finally, the reinforcement armies turned up, just in time to sweep away what was left of the French. I've never been so glad to see reinforcements arrive!
geoff300
01-05-2007, 02:50
I have been playing this for a while and have had plenty of memorable moments in it. My favorite just happened last night.
I was in Jerusalem and was attacked by the Egyptian army. They had me sieged, but I felt I could take them, so I rode out to face them all. Anyway, I had one army with a single dismounted knight left in it and no where else to stack him. I also didn't have the means to retrain him, so, I was going to give him an honorable end. I sent everyone out my castle gates and lined them all up. The Egyptian gunners all opened up firing on my guys, so I sent the single one out to kill him off so my reinforcements could come in.
Well, not only did this man survive the long run up to the gunners, when he got up to them and killed ONE, the remaining gunners all routed with this one knight standing there ready to take on more. Needless to say, I won the battle. The single knight got his own fleet of ships home and was allowed to spend the rest of his days in my capital.
diamondback88
01-05-2007, 03:41
Recently in one of my Russian campaigns, I had taken my time gathering the rebel settlements up north from west at Stockholm to east and south at Kiev, and about 30 turns into it (I was taking my time...) the Hungarians come to me asking for an alliance. To test the water, I asked them for map information in return: Very Generous. I asked them for castle Iasi just to see what'd happen and offered them map information in addition to trade rights in return. They accepted, imagine that. Granted I got a garrison of peasants, but hey, I got a free castle. So meanwhile, the Hungarians and Byzantines are at war, and a few turns after being granted Iasi, the Byzantines besiege it and wipe out my gutless force of peasants. I take it back eventually and begin building it up.
Now, the following events take place over three turns after retaking Iasi.
First turn: Hungrians and Byzantines make peace. Oh well, chaos is over... I'm a little apprehensive at this point. I feel a TW moment coming. :shifty:
Second tun: Byzantines and Hungarians ally with each other. Uh... right.:stare:
Third turn. The Hungarians, my allies whom I have Amiable relations with, march an army of knights over to Iasi from castle Bran and besiege it. I have just shifted from close allies to enemies without a clutch.
I'll remember that one for a while... Oh well, I guess it's an excuse to conquer Hungaria.
Playing as the Spanish I was beseiging some town(forgot which and what faction) when it came down to the last enemy units in the town square... or should I say unit? It was 13 Town Militia. I took my unit of 20 something dismounted fuedal knights who were lined up along the outside edge and sent them charging in.. Only they didn't.
Instead the walked - no, they strutted - into the square when suddenly, 6 of them lined up as perfectly as if on parade and charged into the quivering town militia while their fellows continued their arrogant stroll behind them. Those 6 Knights slaughtered their 13 enemies just in time for their fellows to pat them on their backs.
I'm playing English M/M. When the Pope called a crusade on Jerusalem, I farted around for a while before I joined - I didn't know I could get such good and cheap units as mercs, so I was building up some decent troops.
Anyway, I sailed to Jerusalem to find that the Milanese were there ahead of me and had already laid seige. meanwhile back in Eurpoe, the Milanese had allied with the French and were attacking me in Paris and Rheims. The turn before I landed in Jerusalem, the Milanese were excommunicated, so I walked up and attacked them to beat them off Jerusalem - which I easily won. And then I seiges and won Jerusalem, winning the crusade!
I was astounded at my good fortune - and the AI incredible stupidity in ignoring the papal edict to their great loss in another theatre entirely: I couldn't have done anything about them if they'd been in good graces with Il Papa. But I guess you get that.
HughTower
01-05-2007, 17:12
Playing vh/vh as Turkey in a long camapign on about turn 65.
I send an expeditionary force (containing a general & 4-5 HA units) out from Caffa to have a looksee at Kiev. My spy tells me that the Hungarian Emperor is in there along with a rag-tag militia & peasant army of about 8 units strong, so I think I'll besiege them, either to starve them out, or to entice them into a sally where I'll shoot them to pieces. First turn after, they sally, & I accept the challenge with alacrity.
The weather is fog so thick I can't see the city walls, but, I don't mind, I'll just surround the AI, put on fire at will & skirmish, & the battle will be over v shortly. I start fiddling about with my HAs in preparation.
Through the fog, I see some dim lights bouncing towards me. Curious, I pan forward to see what it is & it's the opposing emperor & his full 37 man unit barrelling at full pace towards my general (21 men), who is standing stock still while I faff around with the HAs. The severity of my predicament hits home about 2 seconds before the enemy charge does, & while I manage to get him moving, the momentum is all with my foe, & after 20 desperate seconds of trying extricate him, he routs. The bodyguard starts battering my HAs and I'm so stunned that I withdraw the rest of my troops to fight another day, not able to imagine ever regaining the upper hand in this encounter.
What I enjoyed about it was the utter surprise it caused me. I'd not seen the weather conditions that bad before, and I was so confident that I'd would decimate the AI as I'd done many times before, and its tactics were perfect for the situation. Brilliant!
I brokered a ceasefire with them the same go, and then spent the next 15 turns getting 6 spies & 4 assasins into the joint, getting PO down to 15% at its lowest ebb, waiting for it to go rebel & then occupying it with ease. Sneaky, but satisfying.
Tiberius maximus
01-05-2007, 17:30
i was playing as england so naturally the scots were in my site so i got my first good stack of men. marched on them then over them. i put all my archers on a hill and spearmen at the base and just demolished them it was my first victory:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
Mine would be when a character with my actual first name became faction heir and then king (England). I made sure he was doing everything to become one of the most sucessful crusader kings! Sad day when he died...snif.
(My girlfriend thought I had cheated and put my name in!) :laugh4:
zahidmaqbool
06-15-2007, 10:47
My most memorable moment was when I was playing as turks. The Timurids laid siege to my castle with 3 stacks of armies somewhat around 3300 people.. and I was defending with and army of 800 which had few JHI , few JMusk... I defeated them very badly.. I stood at the gate didn't move from there and chopped one by one the entire timurid army.. JHI are an awesome unit, even to finish the elephant units.. It was a wonderful feeling..
Aaaaah, memories..:beam:
First time I play campaing, everything is normal,economy is normal, I'm in peace with everyone so I do not need Extra military..:2thumbsup:
Begining of the end has begin in 1230..Horde's fist wave has come as Mongols..soo I defeated them after many turns..But, Khan was smiling when he defeted..I didn't understand that why hi was smiling..
Then,Second wave has come,Timurids:oops:
They came almost 10-13 full stacks of warriors with 7-8 star generals leading to them..I saw them and I got closer to screen and said : Hey,WTF is going on?!
Yeah..I didn't see any army before like this..
IrishArmenian
06-16-2007, 07:13
Definitley an epic siege defense battle as the Russians against the Aztec Hordes. I had about 900 soldiers and the enemy had about 3000. Needless to say, it was a hard fought battle, but the Rus finally claimed victory!
Ars Moriendi
06-16-2007, 08:03
Most memorable moment for me came in an absolutely inconsequential battle. Playing Venice, I had a stack in march near Zagreb. It had to get there ASAP, so I left behind the carrocio they were carrying. Sure enough, the HRE with whom I was at war, attacked the single carrocio unit with a small army made of 1 unit of mailed knights (60) and two half units of armored sarges (40-50 each) - against my 45 standard carriers (pushers ?).
I almost clicked autoresolve, but I thought "hey, I never seen how the carrocio standard looks on battlemap" so I chose to play it out. I simply camped on a small hill, ordered them to drop the standard and put the soldiers in a square formation behind the standard as I thought it would protect them somewhat from the knights charge.
Then I went 6.0x and waited for the inevitable outcome. Seconds later (half a minute?), I noticed the HRE spearmen routing and I went to 1.0 again to take a closer look : the sarges who were attacking my right flank routed with about 10-15 men each. The mailed knights were down to ~30, and kept charging my left, pulling back and charging again. "Tough little buggers, this carrocio dudes" I thought, and waited some more. Soon enough there was only one carrocio dude standing. I watched, unbelievingly, this one guy there, defending the standard by himself and simply refusing to rout. Mailed knights, 9 of them remaining, were circled around him, taking turns hitting. He would stagger, recover and then stab back with his spear, each stab dropping a knight. He did it 6 times in a row before finally going down, with only 3 HRE soldiers left alive...
How's that "last stand" for an inspirational act of bravery and valor ? I don't usually care much for my soldiers, there are always others to replace the dead, but this one little spearmen I really felt sorry for..
Defeating the Mongols this way...
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1157/heroicbattlesvr4.th.png (https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1157/heroicbattlesvr4.png)
One crossed swords symbol was the battleground for two heroic wins. Most of those battles ambushes. Very funny. :yes:
EDIT: Fixed link ~;) ~sapi
Having an Heroic Victory without a single Calvery or Archer unit. Just mostly Militia units fought well.
darsalon
06-18-2007, 12:11
Was setting up a brilliant outflanking manoevre as the English against the Milanese, my troops charged in with the cavalry (including General) timed to hit them once the foot infantry had engaged. Unfortunately the milanese catapults were set up with sniper rifle sights and hit my general with their first shot. Poor Thomas Mortimer, my 8 star general died in a ball of flame.
I've always disliked siege artillery on the battlefield but this now means their crews have no chance against me when I come up against them in battle. I kill them all :furious3:
TevashSzat
06-18-2007, 13:44
Losing my elite army sailing towards Italy because I forgot to merge the 1 ship carrying it with my 18 ship fleet two squares away...
Dr Glock
06-18-2007, 14:10
I had a mean old warrior King, who fought many battles, always killed his captives and had a ring of assassins working for him. By the age of 60 he was still somehow alive, but one day while trying to dash towards a town on the brink or rebellion in the South of France, he got caught by a large Moorish army, and could not flee.
I thought this was going to be the end, and I prepared a last stand on a mountain side. Just him and his bodyguard of 40 knights, again a 1000 Moors with their wicked curved blades.
They slowly trudged thier way through the woods and up the steep incline, the archers leading first followed by some light infantry. When the moment was right, I charged down the hill into their ranks. Each time I looked to get swamped or outflanked, i pulled back, jogged up the hill a little, then recharged back down. Over and over, until finally i was surrounded and at that point more costly to fight way out than to just stay put and fight to the death.
Slowly all the body guards were whittled down, leaving just the old king on his horse. Then at last he fell, and was captured. 40 Knights had been killed, but each one had taken 10 men with them to their grave.
I thought the Moors would execute this old, barbarous dog, but they released him without ransom. After that I was a changed man. :beam:
Abokasee
06-18-2007, 17:33
https://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4312/image2fp2.png
Want to know the result?
https://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9576/image3zh5.png
Releif, now I have more money to spend on bigger armys and cities!!
Im not sure what spend it on...
Callahan9119
06-18-2007, 20:00
playing as the moors and seeing the new castles in mountains for the first time, was a long bloody battle taking it from the spanish
My most memorable moment was a while a go. I was playing for the english. A french stack under command of a captain entered my lands near Caen. Unlucky for them i created just there a brand new army with state of the art units and modern armour. Of course i was eager to test these new units...
There was only one little trouble, I wasn't yet at war with the french. However next turn a nice solution was presented to my eager troops. The french capitan decided to fight for his own instead of the french crown. And a rebel stack is a splendid training for my brand new army:2thumbsup:
So I moved my army to attack those rebels. The rebel army consisted of some townmilitia two units of light cavalery and some crosbowmen. My army has plenty of billmens, dfk's, longbowmens, some mailed Knights and hobilars. The battlefield was a nice open field surrounded by forests. I deployed my inf. in front, archers at the back, and the cav at flank.
When te battle began, i saw the enemy infantry line deployed at a hill. His crosbows came skirmishing down the hill. Of course i charged in my cavalery who chased the crosbows from the field into the forest where they began to flee, pursued by my cav. In the meantime my heavy infantry (billmen, DFK's)
marched uphill to molest the town militia wich formed the enemies main line.
When the infantry engaged all seems to go very well. However suddenly out of the forests at both my flanks there came the enemies light cav. One unit charged in on my longbows, who where watching the unslaught at the top of the hill. The longbows decided quick to run instead of to fight. The other light cav unit charged in on my right flank where my billmens were fighting. At that moment those billmens also decided to run causing a chain reaction. In 5 seconds my complete infantry army fleed and runned back to the sea.
My cavalry happily chasing down the last crossbowmen, saw the disaster in their back, and trotted back to the battlefield only to face a huge number of town militia in the forest wich they couldn't defeat. After a few brave charges i decided to pull my cav back to safety
I was complety astonished. I never saw the AI perform such a perfect ambush with such a disatrous result. The AI set a trap, and i was stupid enough to trip into it.:oops: Because I outnumbered my foe, I had superior material and i seldom lose a battle against the Ai, I wasn't aware enough of the possible dangers.
The result: my brandnew army has collapsed. It took almost 3 years to recover it and destroy that french :furious3: rebel armee.
But it was quite amusing to fight that battle, even more when i realised the Ai has lured me into his trap and the battle was lost. This is how the game is ment to be...
Rebellious Waffle
06-18-2007, 23:31
In one of my Denmark campaigns, I ended up with a ridiculous general -- he had the following traits going for him:
Fine Armor (+4 Hit Points)
Bastion of Health (+6 Hit Points)
Berserker (+4 Hit Points)
Brutally Scarred (+8 Hit Points)
Swordbearer (+1 Hit Point)
Shieldbearer (+2 Hit Points)
Stalks His Prey
Tactically Sound
Fears No Odds
Suicidal Attacker
Bloodthirsty
Lacks Compassion
Warlord of Terror
Underhanded
Spits Venom
Dangerously Mad
Bloke was mad as a hatter -- he couldn't be trusted anywhere near a settlement, and had an awful command score -- but with 25 bonus Hit Points, he was an army of one. Had to be, really. (He got maximum Dread from charging alone into enemy armies and executing the survivors over supper.)
The most memorable moment was when he ambushed a passing group of a hundred Dismounted Feudal Knights heading for the front. His bodyguard couldn't keep pace with the old bear, of course, and died almost instantly; but it was amazing and intensely satisfying to see him kill forty of the buggers by himself before they ran in terror before his l33t head-chopping skills...
Ars Moriendi
06-19-2007, 17:47
@ Rakker : Ouch ! It's certainly exciting when the AI manages to pull us in this kind of traps ; unfortunately, it happens so rarely I suspect it's more by dumb luck on its part than by any kind of deliberate behavior.
Oh, and welcome to the .org...
@Rebellious Waffle : you wouldn't happen to have a savegame with the ninja sith lord of hell still alive ? Coz I'd like to have some fun driving him in a one-man terror campaign ... (never happened upon such a phenomenal character myself)
Rebellious Waffle
06-19-2007, 19:29
No, unfortunately he was sent to the pyre by an inquisitor immediately after the battle with the Dismounted Feudal Knights. He was fun while he lasted, though...
Mine has to be the Battle of London Bridge in my French campaign. I had successfully united all of France and secured an alliance with The Holy Roman Empire, Venice (Who were keeping Milan Busy) and Spain so i felt i was secure on all fronts.
This was pre-patch so an English invasion of France was out of the question so i decided to secure the whole of the United Kingdom and turn them into cities and make some serious florins. I had decided to send three full stacks of the finest french soldiers of the time (Dfk's, Volgue, Feudal and mailed knights, Sergeant spearmen and crossbow men)
All three armies landed near the forest south-west of London and a spy proved the city to be defended by a general some spear militia and a few Mailed Knights. This was a job for my young in-experienced prince to take some glory by taking the enemy capitol while the other armies moved up towards Nottingham and Wales to take out the troop producers before the English had time to react.
Everything is going fine London is under seige from the south and my two stacks are closing in on their targets. Everything seemed quiet no resistance no troops in the field i was guessing the scottish were proving tough in the north. Ended the turn feeling quite pleased with myself and planning what to do with all the money i would get from taking the cities. On the next turn the smile was wiped from my face as there was a full stack in the Wales region and lots of little stacks near nottingham which would make a full stack if joined. The thing that really surprised me was there was a full stack of the finest English Knights and Infantry sat next to London threatening my young prince. I decided to lift the seige and (Not sure if i moved back across the bridge or i was already sieging from that side) and wait for them to attack me. Ended the turn by starting production of another stack in the Motherland as i sensed England alone was going to be a tough nut to crack nevermind Scotland.
As soon as it got to the English turn they merged the stack from Nottingham and obviously recruited some more men in London and 3 armies attacked my young Prince from the North side of the bridge. I thought what the hell im going for a last stand and imagined the outrage of the kingdom if my prince was to die (My inner role play coming into action once again) I formed my men tight to the bridge with crossbows at each side of the bridge spears blocking the end of the funnel and my swords behind them to plug any gaps. My cavalry was about 100 metres away from them ready to charge when they inevitably broke. The English wasted no time and stormed the bridge with horse and foot (Amazingly there was no longbows or they could of butchered me without even crossing over) I could not believe i was being so lucky to receive one of about 10 real battles id had before i installed the patch (Usually the Ai would send 1 unit at a time onto my spear wall) I zoomed right into the action after about 5 minutes of bloodshed and was happy to see my spears were holding and the swords were cutting down anyone who got near them. About 10 minutes later the fight was still going on and my numbers were falling but stupidly one of their generals leading the first stack charged the Volgue and was promptly cut down this lead most of the army to rout back across the bridge which must of slowed down the other army which was moving with the garrison of london to finish my infantry of. I decided to move my men back and let them get some ground on my side of the river when i thought what the hell im not going to beat them muscle to muscle again and charged all my knights and the prince towards the bridge and into them. I Don't know if they tried to turn and hold their north side while i attacked or just plain ran but every single man turned and my men cut them down like daises and plowed through everyone capturing about 1000 men and killing anyone who fought on.
The aftermath was amazing and i really wish i had a screenshot or saved the battle because although id lost most of my foot the horst just butchered the entire army and left about 20 men alive who could not even garrison the city again as they merged into the peasant population leaving the city empty and a free catch. My prince survived the battle and got almost every single trait and retinue ever. His command went up about 6 stars and he got a Dread Knight and a Berserker if i remember correctly.
I ended up taking the whole island with the other two stacks in about 10-20 turns and i feel this battle was the best one i had ever fought in so far!
Kaidonni
06-19-2007, 23:03
Just today I decided, for a single turn, to leave an army destined for rebel busting (just in case any rebel army spawned on my territory) without a named general. I took Prince Simon of Sicily back to my capital a few paces away...
What happens next turn? That army of mine has turned rebel! LOL! I leave Captain Viaro alone for one moment and he betrays me! Suffice it to say, whatever god he worshipped only has to do the deciding now...:laugh4:
imnothere
06-20-2007, 06:49
was taking over Edinburgh from Scotland with minimum casualties.
then decided to minimise it even further by charging my 2nd general with his double-silver stripes in order to save up some cash. afterall, me thought, what can happen to him? the only unit he is charging is a scottish general, with only 2 bronze stripes, same number of men. and he is used to charging units by him and his mates... etc...etc...
you guess it, both generals got free tombstones :sweatdrop: dont even ask me how, was so sad that nearly quit the English campaign.
i guess i am unlucky in life AND in game.
Rebellious Waffle
06-20-2007, 13:36
Heh, that's funny. Actually it's a deliberate change from RTW. In Rome, routers running back into the city could be chased through the gates by pursuers, resulting in the loss of the city. In M2, if there are enemy units anywhere near, the gates will not open to let the routers in. In your case, the gate was already open, but closed when the pursuers came near. I'm sure they AI wound up losing the city anyway, but it made sallying somewhat more of a gamble in RTW. If you did more than fire from the walls at the besiegers, you ran the risk of allowing the enemy into the city. Now, that won't happen, although you can lose units outside that won't make it back in.
Er...
::Looks back at sieges::
Yeah.
I've taken at least half a dozen cities that way in M2TW. The trick is to get your cavalry into the mob of routers and pace them, then halt once you're through the gate. The mob moves on, you don't, and you win the gate by default since no enemy units are nearby and you've got a gaggle of soldiers on the other side.
pike master
06-21-2007, 04:22
well it brought tears to my eyes.
tears of joy
the day i finally got lucky enough to get a multiplayer game to work:laugh4:
Labareda
06-21-2007, 06:56
Sailing to Cairo (from Rome) with my French General and a seige army.
Blasting down the walls, wading through the Egyptian defenders with the aim to the city with minimal losses. Retreating in order to minimise casualties. Sacking Cairo:laugh4:
General Dies of the pox !
My fiancé decides to take an interest in my game and sits on my knee. It is my ardent wish to display valour and strategic genius before the watchful gaze of my beloved.
The Mongol's arrive with a stack full of Kahn's guard and as I am deploying my troops along the broken walls of Cairo I realise the flaw in my plan. The walls are holier than his hatness.
:wall:
Despite gritty defence from my Scott's guard, glorious charges of Chivalric Knights and the yelled of enthusiasm of my fiancé, I am totally overwhelmed by the Mongols and Cairo falls once more. :shame:
Vlad_Impaler
06-23-2007, 07:45
The ignominious death of my greatest general, Harry the Terrible. In his middle years he built up a reputation for savagery by purging the Iberian peninsula of dastardly Spaniards and putting all the Moors to the sword and torch. He took pleasure in hunting down fleeing peasants, and often let the archers get in some extra practice that way. Flaming ammo, of course.
After earning his full complement of Dread he took on two Crusades. Hoping to purify his soul, he instead found lots of new victims to mangle, enslave, etc. In spite of winning both Crusades, he still had 8 Dread when he earned the Warlord of Terror title. A small grin crept across my face. Harry, the improbably named Warlord of Terror was over sixty and on the far eastern edge of the map. Some leftover Turks from a recent conquest were nearby, 213 of them to be exact. Harry and his remaining 23 guards took them on. A night battle, raining or course, with flaming arrows falling all about and a mixed bag of rabble and elites coming uphill through the dense woods. Harry ignored the arrows and charged the spears. They took one look at his towering rage and fled before his fury. All of them ran on contact, some just before. A catapult crew scattered at the receiving end of a decent charge. The archers were no trouble and died quickly, the others were mopped up in detail. Checking the map for any stragglers, I noticed a little red arrow a ways behind me. I direct the Warlord of Terror in his unstoppable might to return and wipe them out.
With a fizzling, hissing *splat*, Harry was no more. The remaining four men of the catapult crew had returned and got off a very lucky shot against my dozen or so remaining horsemen charging toward them.
Rest in peace, Harry , Warlord of Terror. If the digital St. Peter gives you guff, drag him through hell naked behind a chariot.
The historian
06-24-2007, 19:29
Had some too bad you can;t view the battle replay there are some great one's i'd save.
Marshal Murat
06-24-2007, 23:49
I was the English, and I had just defeated the French. Then
WHAM
A Portuguese army lands in Ireland and besieges Dublin.
I'm naturally very angry, so I muster my Feudal Knights, Longbowmen (Levy, Armored, and King!!) and some billmen.
It was the best battlefield, wide open plain, storm clouds rolling over.
My longbowmen rush to the flanks of the Portuguese, line up in front of the billmen, and rain arrows onto the Portuguese. The archers decimate the sitting Portuguese soldiers, and I eliminate the entire crossbow screen. Then the knights charge, my billmen follow close behind, and mass slaughter follows.
:2thumbsup:
DeathBUA
06-25-2007, 00:08
Holding Antioch as the Venetians and it getting sieged by the Mongols, I remember I had about 1500 defenders in the city, which had ballista towers but not cannon towers yet...The defenders were a mix of venetian archers, venetian heavy infantry, some crusader knights and crusader sergeants and a 8 star general.
They attempted to take the town with 3 full stacks, including the Khan, and his heir to the throne and another 8 star general. Night battle of course.
They had no artillery but instead charged with multiple rams. I destroyed 2 before the 3rd made it to the gate. By this point my computer was straining to keep decent frames as all 3 Mongol armies were waiting to charge in once the gate was down. By some stroke of luck my ballista tower shot and killed the Khan just as the gate was destroyed by the ram. They charged into the breech, HA's Khan's Guard, infantry, everything. The slaughter was tremendous! My computer literally was running maybe 5 frames a second for about half an hour as my venetians put up a heroic defense and my archers continued to rain arrows upon them, until running out of ammo I charged them into the fray.
Just when I thought all was lost slowly at first than faster and faster white flags of rout popped up on the mongol units. I charged in with my general and that broke their back, they fled I ran them down killing and capturing hundreds. The final toll left me with about 500 men left and yet I had killed 4,900 Mongols!!!!
After that I rushed in reinforcements from Acre yet they didnt attack me again for almost 10 turns. By then I was rebuilt AND had cannon towers. :beam:
When I brought a full stack of Dvor Cavalry and Cossack Musketeers +mercs and annihilated three full stacks of Timurids incl Elephants! But then four more came and the Timurid saga extended for another 50 years...
imnothere
06-28-2007, 07:55
Sailing to Cairo (from Rome) with my French General and a seige army.
...
My fiancé decides to take an interest in my game and sits on my knee. It is my ardent wish to display valour and strategic genius before the watchful gaze of my beloved.
The Mongol's arrive with a stack full of Kahn's guard and as I am deploying my troops along the broken walls of Cairo I realise the flaw in my plan. The walls are holier than his hatness.
:wall:
Despite gritty defence from my Scott's guard, glorious charges of Chivalric Knights and the yelled of enthusiasm of my fiancé, I am totally overwhelmed by the Mongols and Cairo falls once more. :shame:
:laugh4: man, this would be embarassing. while my generals have the habit of impaling themselves on the nearest peasant's pitchfork, at least i can :wall: in silence and reload.
just tell her that there was a BIG BUG (not the insect variety) in the game and you need to download the patch for it. coz blah-blah-blah and blah-blah-blah. then get her drunk, and then take her out or anything else that would make her forget.
otherwise, just say that you need to spend more time with her anyway :sweatdrop:
ainamacil
07-09-2007, 21:09
First campaign in M2TW here, but there already so many memorable moments.
The first is really a series. I managed to get the panicked Moors to give me Granada as part of a peace deal to get me off their backs. It was a good idea for them to do so- I was just miles from Marrakesh with a very unhappy 7-Star King Henry the Merciless. Well, I never ended up making a push into Africa, and wars with the ever-persistent and backstabbing Milan, HRE, and Denmark (plus the recently-arrived Hungarians- lousy dogs!), combined with my alliance with Spain, kept me from connecting the Iberian dots, so to speak. Portugal is still holding on, and indeed, holds most of Iberia. They routinely assault me in Granada. With militia, and sometimes, if they're feeling particularly-uppity, a ram or two. My 6 archer militia, 2 billmen, and general's bodyguard have repelled at least five assaults now, and virtually without effort. They're keen on just letting the Portuguese saunter on up under heavy arrow fire and get cut to pieces, time after time. I'm inclined to endorse that strategy, frankly. :laugh4:
Then, of course, is the time I cornered the Milanese heir in a slightly-wooded field with 4 ribaults and some longbowmen. It was a little bit like the end of the last battle in The Last Samurai. I watched his unit cut to pieces, laughing the whole time. He deserved it.
And finally, perhaps my favorite. King Henry The Merciless (now back in London) joins a crusade, sails all the way to Jerusalem and takes the city in a crushing victory, for which he earns the sobriquet "King Henry the Crusader" and "big ups" from the Pope. Said Pope immediately dies, and being unable to vote for the new one, King Henry loses much esteem, and moreover, within a few turns, goes from being King Henry the Crusader and sitting pretty in the world to King Henry the Liar and languishing in a Jerusalem castle for the rest of his life. Oh, and his son turned out to be a dip. Poor Henry.
One of the only, if not the only one, battles where I was forced to withdraw my forces. All of my men but a few near depleted units withdraw. My eight command general gets sniped by a flaming trebuchet shot.
Tschüß!
Erich
as for now it will be my landing in Sicily right into hiden enemy king' army. thank you god for english palisades :2thumbsup: also siege of paris on 1.1
My best moment in the game was in my last long campaign playing the English. I had conquered most of modern day France, was allied to Spain and was mostly occupied with setting up camp in the holy lands. The only true annoyance was Milan, whose empire spanned up to the southeast of France, southern Germany and Switzerland. They were constantly sending fulls stacks on my French cities, besieging up to 4 cities in one single turn. Obviously this made it somewhat hard to develop my economy in those areas, and the best of my army was already engaged in the far east. Each time I tried to build up an army to go slaughter those ugly Milanese swines in their homelands, it was ambushed by danes or redirected back to my lands in order to save some attacked city.
After years of this terror, I accidently noticed I had a 34 year old snobby princess who'd been sitting in Toulouse for 18 years (would be nice if the game told you when a princess has her "coming of age"). She had no hearts (actually if the game permitted she would have been in the minus) but proved to be of great strategic importance!
I sent her out to Milan, where General Antonio The Honourable was governing. I though, "bah, why not.." although her chances in success were about 11%. And what do you know, I had a five star general in the middle of my most hated enemy's land. I immediatly recruited the 2 pavise crossbowmen and 1 band of spearmen available there. Milan sent a half stack full of spearmen and various cavalry to me. Heroic victory... and so on... I conquered Milan, Venice and a couple other of tows in the area. By that time the Milanese were sending their troops back home to try and stop the carnage, but it was already too late. A few turns later and Milan was no more.
Now THAT is what I call memorable! ;)
Another enjoyable part was, later in that same game, when the Timurids invaded the Holy Lands and I decimated most of their 8-9 star generals with a couple assassins.
Empirate
08-24-2007, 16:46
The first time I had to face the Mongols and Timurids was in my Hungarian M/VH campaign (this was 1.1). I had joined a crusade to Antioch because I could, and actually ended up taking it after fighting three original Mongol armies with my crusaders and an allied Sicilian crusader army (great battle, low framerate though...).
From Antioch, I defended myself against the Mongols for a while and took Acre and Jerusalem through more crusading. The Mongols were still running strong when all of a sudden the Timurids showed up. We ended up in a nice and bloody three-way war of attrition. The Mongols were the first to go, and I brought my best generals and armies to the Near East. I didn't quite dare lay hand on the Timurid main force, but after defending Acre and Antioch in numerous sieges, I saw an opening and decided to attack a lone stack. I had pulled together the very best troops I had anywhere in the area, and the only good general remaining to me. I wanted to use these to surgically remove straggling Tim stacks. Somehow my spies must have missed the two OTHER Tim stacks that showed up as reinforcements...
This, however, was also the first time I ended up defeating the Tims in the open field! I was lucky in that I had the high ground, and I immediately pounded the first Tim army with lots of PavXBows. They charged, and their charge quickly broke on my walls of Pavese Spearmen countercharging from on high. I pulled back and awaited the rest of the massive Tim forces. It was a long, drawn-out battle, I had to watch all the approaches to my hill fortress constantly, and was charged time and again, though never on a massive scale. Instead, the AI looked to cut off single units and wipe them out. All the while, my PavXBows took a heavy toll on the Tim mounted and foot archers, but received quite a beating in return. Luckily, only one unit of elephants was in all the three Tim stacks, and these were driven off with lots of XBow bolts. Still, things began to look grim. My general had to charge in once, twice, a third time, then I wasn't able to withdraw him anymore: I needed his men fighting the Tim infantry and a few remaining heavy cavalry. My PavXBows had long stopped firing, some because of lack of ammo, some because they were engaged in melee. I used them as shock-absorbers and countercharged with my few precious heavy melee infantry. My Royal Banderium underperformed (again...) and was mostly routed in battle with Tim heavy infantry. My Hungarian Nobles did quite well, but had suffered very heavy losses. Units began routing, even though I had taken out about 70% of the Tim troops. Even my general routed once, taking almost all my forces with him, but the enemy were too tired to pursue uphill and chose to start shooting a little more. I was able to reform most of my remaining, depleted forces, only about 250 men all in all (huge unit size...). The Tims still had approximately 600 men, though tired and battered.
Then, suddenly, I get the message saying that my reinforcements are entering the battle! I've never been more relieved. The first reinforcement unit to arrive was their general, who, while still green, had almost 30 fresh bodyguards. These alone were enough to engage and rout the last remaining Tim cavalry. After that, my two generals double-teamed each and every Tim unit in turn, routing all of them. Heroic victory, about 4,500 Tim dead, along with close to 1,000 of my own. After this I knew the Timurids can be beat in the open field!
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