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Reverend Joe
12-27-2006, 06:52
I have no idea if this has been posted yet; normally, I would try to see if it is already known, but when I looked at the number of bug threads I immediately freaked out. No way in hell am I wading through all that.

I was testing the Spartiai Hoplitai in a custom game to see how they preformed against regular classical hoplitai, when I noticed this:

https://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9311/1qq0.gif
The spear is backwards. That, or the Spartiai had a very strange style of fighting.

Again, if it is know, I apologise, but I was trying to help.

Also, he sword is visible when the spear is lowered, but I seem to recall that being an incurable bug.
MSB
12-28-2006, 19:02
It's not a bug (or at least I don't think it is). I thought that that was a bug when I first saw the Successor Light Cavalry, but all Greek units (without Phalanx) have double ended spears. If you look more closely then you will see that.
BigTex
12-28-2006, 22:17
The real bug is lower down in the pic. The spartiate Hoplitia carries his sword and spear in the same hand at the same time. I believe the butspike poking is intended.
NeoSpartan
12-29-2006, 00:01
Actually its 2 bugs you have here...

1st the sword and the spear.
2nd the the long part of the spear is in the back instead of the front.
---yes the spear did have 2 points, but it was held 6 feet from the hand out, and 2 feet from the hand back.
---also the front tip was longer than the back tip of the spear.

Look the following pics, thats how the spear should be held by ALL Classical Hoplites.

https://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/Neospartan/RomeTW2006-12-2817-41-37-50.jpg

https://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/Neospartan/RomeTW2006-12-2817-38-23-96.jpg

SEE the lenght of the spear.




p.s Is there anyway EB can get a Spartan Royal Guard unit???? There was only one unit at any one time (maybe 2 'cause Sparta had to kings, but I don't think that was the case in EB's time frame)
NeoSpartan
12-29-2006, 00:18
on the subject of Classical Hoplites... but not related to this thread.

I think if you put them in HOLD position, they fight better. I need to run some more tests, but I has Merc hoplites hold off a Carthagenian general, and in a test the Spartans held off the Gaestrae preatty good.
Teleklos Archelaou
12-29-2006, 01:17
From our latest internal build patch: here is a quick shot of Spartiates and Macedonian hoplitai haploi fighting it out.

https://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1024/overhandspearjm3.th.jpg (https://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=overhandspearjm3.jpg)
NeoSpartan
12-29-2006, 03:14
now thats better :2thumbsup:
MarcusAureliusAntoninus
12-29-2006, 04:54
Hoplitai Haploi are non-phalanx?
BigTex
12-29-2006, 07:50
From our latest internal build patch: here is a quick shot of Spartiates and Macedonian hoplitai haploi fighting it out.

https://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1024/overhandspearjm3.th.jpg (https://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=overhandspearjm3.jpg)

Finally nice to see hoplitia haplio without thos huge pikes. Was getting quite irritating seeing them slaughter hoplites en mass. Beautiful.