Removal of Brutii and scipii

[Upxl]

Hi,

I've been trying to outmod the Brutii and scipii by removing them from the descr_strat and donating their regions to rebels (provincial campaign).

So far no luck.
The provincial campaing loads but as soon as I end turn it CTD.

I tried this in the past with succes but now their must be something I'm overlooking.

Does any of you more experienced modders have any idea how to do this?

it's the v1.6 (BI update)

[Arakorn-eir]

Can a less experienced modder answer? :P

I might have some theories, but just so we won't get any confusions, you mean that you have 1.5, instead of 1.6? Because 1.5 is Rome, and 1.6 is BI where the Roman Families are NOT present.

Try adding the -show_err switch to your shortcut. (Desktop: Locate RTW shortcut, right click, properties, add to target line:


-show_err)

[Squid]

Did you remove them from the list of factions available (they can't anywhere in the playable, unlockable or unplayable list)?

[Upxl]

sorry it's the 1.5.

I meant the update came from BI.



Can a less experienced modder answer? :P

Pleas be my guest. :2thumbsup:

-show_err doesnt show anything.
It never did and I have no clue why.




Did you remove them from the list of factions available (they can't anywhere in the playable, unlockable or unplayable list)?

yes they're completely removed.

[Makanyane]

When campaign loads turn Fog of War off and scroll around and make sure you can view all the provinces you took off Brutii & Scipii - if it CTD's when you scroll over province you may have problem with the combination of faction creator and default rebel / sub faction rebel type - don't ask me why but it seems that RTW has problem with some combinations.

(I'm just guessing on that as at end of turn map tends to scroll to view movements)

[Upxl]

When campaign loads turn Fog of War off and scroll around and make sure you can view all the provinces you took off Brutii & Scipii - if it CTD's when you scroll over province you may have problem with the combination of faction creator and default rebel / sub faction rebel type - don't ask me why but it seems that RTW has problem with some combinations.

(I'm just guessing on that as at end of turn map tends to scroll to view movements)


I can scroll around fine.
The provinces are rebel as they should be and without any troops in them.

The ctd happen as soon as I pres the end turn button.

Still no error report.

[Upxl]

This is the strat file.

I only removed the brutii and scipii and moved their settlements to the rebels.










campaign imperial_campaign
playable
romans_julii
end
unlockable
egypt
seleucid
carthage
parthia
gauls
germans
britons
greek_cities
end
nonplayable
romans_senate
macedon
pontus
armenia
dacia
numidia
scythia
spain
thrace
slave
end...


...

faction romans_julii, comfortable caesar
superfaction romans_senate
denari 5000
settlement
{
level large_town
region Etruria

year_founded 0
population 4000
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks militia_barracks
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type port_buildings port
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Umbria

year_founded 0
population 3500
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
}

character Flavius Julius, named character, leader, age 47, , x 89, y 82
traits GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 3 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Austere 1
ancillaries aged_retainer
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman triarii exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman archer exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Lucius Julius, named character, heir, age 31, , x 91, y 80
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , GoodAdministrator 3 , Energetic 2
ancillaries freeman_clerk
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Quintus Julius, named character, age 29, , x 96, y 82
traits NaturalMilitarySkill 3 , GoodAttacker 1 , Energetic 1
ancillaries drillmaster
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman city militia exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman city militia exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Sextus Antio, diplomat, age 29, , x 93, y 78
traits GoodDiplomat 3

character Decius Curtius, spy, age 29, , x 95, y 83
traits GoodSpy 4

character Oppius Clausus, admiral, age 29, , x 86, y 78

army
unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character Vibius Julius, named character, age 28, , x 88, y 81
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , GoodAdministrator 2 , MathematicsSkill 1
ancillaries merchant
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character_record Amulius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Manius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Decius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Marcus Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Faustina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Poppaea, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Alypia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Claudia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 28, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Fadia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 13, alive, never_a_leader

relative Flavius Julius, Faustina, Lucius Julius, Quintus Julius, Vibius Julius, end
relative Lucius Julius, Poppaea, Fadia, Decius Julius, Marcus Julius, end
relative Quintus Julius, Alypia, Amulius Julius, end
relative Vibius Julius, Claudia, Manius Julius, end


faction romans_senate, comfortable napoleon
denari 5000
settlement
{
level city
region Latium

year_founded 0
population 7500
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type core_building governors_palace
}
building
{
type defenses stone_wall
}
building
{
type amphitheatres stone_amphitheatre
}
building
{
type barracks city_barracks
}
building
{
type missiles practice_field
}
building
{
type smith blacksmith
}
building
{
type market forum
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms+2
}
building
{
type hinterland_mines mines+1
}
}

character Decius Maxentius, named character, leader, age 60, , x 95, y 71
traits GoodCommander 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Austere 1
ancillaries doctor
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman princeps exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman princeps exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman triarii exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

character Marcus Maxentius, named character, heir, age 30, , x 93, y 73
traits GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 2 , PoliticsSkill 1 , GoodAdministrator 1 , Intelligent 1
ancillaries bodyguard
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman triarii exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

character Flavius Nepos, diplomat, age 30, , x 96, y 69
traits GoodDiplomat 5

character Servius Maxentius, named character, age 36, , x 94, y 69
traits GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , PublicFaith 2 , GoodAdministrator 1 , Intelligent 1
ancillaries scribe_ancillary
army
unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman velite exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman hastati exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman princeps exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit roman triarii exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character_record Gaius Maxentius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 11, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Lentulus Maxentius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Publius Maxentius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Honoria, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 50, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Licinia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Marciana, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 34, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Papiria, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 5, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Prisca, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 19, alive, never_a_leader

relative Decius Maxentius, Honoria, Servius Maxentius, Marcus Maxentius, Prisca, end
relative Marcus Maxentius, Licinia, Publius Maxentius, Gaius Maxentius, end
relative Servius Maxentius, Marciana, Lentulus Maxentius, Papiria, end


faction macedon, fortified napoleon...

...

}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Apulia

year_founded 0
population 4500
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type equestrian stables
}
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type port_buildings port
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Bruttium

year_founded 0
population 4300
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Campania

year_founded 0
population 4800
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks militia_barracks
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
building
{
type hinterland_farms farms+1
}
}

settlement
{
level large_town
region Sicilia_Romanus

year_founded 0
population 3500
plan_set default_set
faction_creator romans_julii
building
{
type barracks muster_field
}
building
{
type core_building governors_villa
}
building
{
type defenses wooden_pallisade
}
building
{
type hinterland_roads roads
}
}

settlement
{
level village
region Sahara

year_founded 0
population 400
plan_set default_set
faction_creator carthage...

}
As you can see very basic changes.

[Atilius]

What did you do to the formerly roman armies in the Brutii and Scipii provinces? The rebel faction cannot own some units that are in these armies; Triarii are one example. If you haven't done so already, you might remove all units but Hastati and Velites from these starting armies.

[Upxl]

Was one of the first things I did ofcours.

I wonder if it’s the version of the game what makes it crash.

Because when I mod’d this some time ago it was still v1.3 or something similar.

[Arakorn-eir]

Yes, Pre 1.3 (with 1.0-1.2) some things were much easier, such as make all factions playable (add them to playable), as when in 1.3 and later you needed some tga's in the campaign folder too.

This might have something similar as the reason, though I cannot figure out what. :(

[Atilius]

Because when I mod’d this some time ago it was still v1.3 or something similar.

That's a killer. Among other things, the way initial diplomatic stance is assigned changed. You need to start from the vanilla 1.5 descr_strat.txt or use a merge tool.

[Upxl]

That's a killer. Among other things, the way initial diplomatic stance is assigned changed. You need to start from the vanilla 1.5 descr_strat.txt or use a merge tool.


I didn't start from the modefied 1.3 version updated it and try to mod it again.

It is the 1.5 vanilla I'm working from.

[putch88]

deleted the families, armies, agents, admirals
"cut" & "paste" the settlements to another faction (in your case it should be the rebels or another faction if you like)

you can also, instead of deleting the armies, agents, admirals, change the names from brutii,scipii faction to names of rebel faction (you can find the names in descr_names on /data folder)

make the brutii,scipii unplayable in descr_strat file and DON'T DELETE THEM for the file...and also remove the superfaction....

it should stay like this in descr_strat file:

faction romans_brutii, comfortable napoleon
denari 5000

faction romans_scipii, comfortable napoleon
denari 5000

put the -show_err in the end of the path for the shortcut game, it will show why it crashed an error


hope it helps....good luck

[Upxl]

Brilliant,

It works.

I would like to thank everyone helpful enough to participate in this here problem especially “Putch” for bringing the much-needed answer.

I love you guys! :iloveyou: