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Beskar

02-02-2010, 17:37

al Roumi

02-02-2010, 18:26

What is always interesting is the amount of wars and battles that go on. Also, what is quite depressing, is that you cannot leave the game on very fast for any real length of time, without something major happening, or something that requires your attention.

For me that is kind of the appeal of the game: waiting for events to coalesce into an opportunity for me to strike and beat something out of someone. Once I achieve a degree of omnipotence, I find it hard to sustain that interest and opportunism. I start feeling quite disencentivised when the most available conquests are in non-accepted culture regions. As in history, complacency is my downfall! Except of course that i turn off before that happens...

The Wizard

02-02-2010, 19:36

The major difference between EU3 and another Paradox favorite of mine, CK, is that in EU3 it is very unlikely for your empire to collapse once it's been set up. Especially in Europe, once you pass a certain threshold of provinces, which in that area always have a high tax base and support limit, you're basically unbeatable by anybody else, whether Latin tech or not. Which kinda saps a bit of the fun out of it. It makes late game against the AI a rush for world conquest or nothing much interesting. I'd advise you to perhaps try out a non-Western game.

In CK, meanwhile, even if your empire has stood for over a hundred years, it can still collapse overnight. Which is part of that game's appeal.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-03-2010, 00:09

Ahh that explains it, my land tradition is not that high.

Well, Still awesome. Struck at the beasts belly, attacking Flanders to draw Castille (and only castille!) into a war. They broke quickly enough, and now Granada has conquered them completely. With that done I can watch France for my opportunity to strike.
Colonized Greenland and am working down Africa. Working out well.

The Wizard

02-03-2010, 01:28

Granada? That's amazing :laugh4: I'd like to see a map :)

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-03-2010, 01:40

Not even sure how it happened..... I think Granada rebelled (it had been conquered a while ago) and used the war Castille was in to make some major gains. After I was done Castille got attacked by France, who mopped up its last few thousand troops. Then it fell into a massive rebellions, and Granada took advantage of it.

I am actually kind of scared they will turn out to be as powerful as Castille...... :laugh4:

https://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2935/eu3game2010020219342331.png

Alexander the Pretty Good

02-03-2010, 07:32

Oh wow!

Though their research is probably going to be pretty bad, no?

al Roumi

02-03-2010, 11:58

Oh wow!

Though their research is probably going to be pretty bad, no?

Can't remember what tech group Granada are in. Tbh, they are usually instagibbed in the games I have played. Seeing a reconquered al-andalus motivates me to try such a game...

Nevermind all that phil-hellenic resurgent byzantinium rot, what about restoring and reconquering the Caliphate of Cordoba whilst kicking the brutish Visigoth descendants back into the pyrenees. :D

Given the starting strength of Castille compared to that of Granada, it would take some doing! Conquering europe as the Almohads was my most enjoyable game in MTW, but that campaign starts earlier, before the rot set in and the Caliphate fractured.

miotas

02-03-2010, 12:11

I think he meant that their research would be slow because most of their provinces would be non-core.

Meneldil

02-03-2010, 12:38

Muslim is the third research group and the gap only becomes important from the middle game onward. Plus they must receive huge research bonii from their neighbhours and might have a chance to westernize at some point.

The Wizard

02-03-2010, 13:46

Granada is actually the closest of any non-Western nation to being able to Westernize at the start of the game (1399). You can Westernize right away (at least, in 3.2...). Of course, it could be different after re-appearing due to a rebellion...

Still, I've never seen this happen before. Very interesting game!

EDIT: BTW Cultured Drizzt fan, is Granada Christian, perhaps? Could happen if they rebelled from a converted province.

Alexander the Pretty Good

02-03-2010, 15:13

I think he meant that their research would be slow because most of their provinces would be non-core.

I meant being part of the Muslim tech group, but that's a good point too. By the time half of Spain cores, if they're still in the Muslim tech group they could be hurting. And westernizing will be painful...

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-03-2010, 21:41

The Wizard

02-03-2010, 22:06

Sounds like a power to be reckoned with...

In my England game I've finally decided to form Great Britain (coulda done that back in the 1480s, but waited until 1524 simply 'cause it felt wrong to see the UK flag that early... but I couldn't resist the benefits in the end). Currently I'm rapidly expanding my holdings in Brazil to try and take the whole coast of that country. At the same time, I'm shaping up for a fight with Spain. Inexplicably, they've warned me despite having an RM, and it's annoying me. They might have almost 90k more troops than me, but my navy is far stronger, and they're way over their MP, so I'm confident of being able to split their forces and beating them piecemeal. All I'm worried about is France backstabbing me, and Portugal (my ally) getting overrun. After that, taking the three Irish provinces I don't yet control, and then back to assaulting Indonesia...

EDIT: Oh, the Reformation has fired, and I'm keeping the UK Catholic. How's that for twisting history ~;)

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-03-2010, 23:27

Decided to attack france...... There armies seem to have be invincible. I need to almost double them to take them out, and even then I take huge casualties. I seem to always get horrible rolls fighting them, while they slaughter me with ease..... :brood:

miotas

02-04-2010, 00:30

You mentioned that your research is really slow right now, they probably have more advanced troops than you. They also might have better generals than you. Have you moved your sliders towards quantity at all? If you have and France has gone towards quality, then that difference in discipline could also be contributing to how superior they seem.

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-04-2010, 01:08

Maybe.... I ended up ending the war as soon as I was able to get a hold of Lothian in a peace deal. It does not slow down Frances power, but they are going to find it hard to expand now they have hit my wall of Vassals. I am going to expand overseas to get more cash.

I need to speed up my tech.....

(no I have not moved towards the quantity slider, but you are probably right about the tech things. )

miotas

02-04-2010, 10:23

Colonies are a very long term investment, and will reduce your tech quite a lot in the short term. The quickest way boost to your tech is to develop your trade.

ubik

02-11-2010, 23:08

And as far as I'm concerned, I'm not that excited about a Magna Mundi standalone game (there's already a thread about it, btw). MMP is just a patchwork of various mods pastiched into one big package, and technically not a real full-blown mod, and has all the problems coming with that. In addition, I don't like MMP's premise, because I feel it clamps on too tightly to history and doesn't give enough room for changing it. Just like Vicky and EU2.

Just to provide some detailed info on the bold part... :)

90% of the Magna Mundi mod was done inhouse, meaning during the development cycles of new versions. With the exception of Dar Zarwesitch ship names (this, as you'd guess adds real names to ships in the database), the Hiring fair and Ad Infinitum, nothingmore was imported from other mods into Magna Mundi.

In fact, Magna Mundi gave to the community two of the best mods outside its own scope: SRI and Dei Gratias. I was the one that encouraged Helius and dharper to release their work WITHIN Magna Mundi as standalone products. They deserved to be on the spotlight for their own merits. An this from November 2007 onwards. So, if anything, Magna Mundi is big enough to give light to other big mods. To this day, it continues to benefit from those modders talent in an integrated team, with distributed responsibilites and answering in a very clear hierarchy. Any newcomer who enters the team is always surprised on how we work together. Then, those who don't like Magna Mundi, may indulge themselves in SRI or Dei Gratias, now knowing their mods are being developed inside Magna Mundi. :)

As a rough estimate, I'd say 90% of Magna Mundi development is inhouse with 8 of the reamaining 10% being solely Ad Infinitum.

Jolt

02-12-2010, 01:35

MM explanation

Holy :daisy: it's ubik! :D

ubik, don't forget to make Portugal uber-powered! Your countrymen demand it so!

The Wizard

02-12-2010, 14:49

[...]

:shrug:

Regardless of any of that, I still don't like the premise of the mod. Let's agree to disagree

ubik

02-12-2010, 21:24

Cultured Drizzt fan

02-13-2010, 01:40

Got so irritated by pirates that I had to update my game, now I need to start a new England game. :tongue: problem is my allies are all useless. They don't stick by me if I start 1 little war. Very irksome.

I am guessing there is no way to get my old game updated right?

The Wizard

02-14-2010, 00:53

I did not post to debate matters of taste. Those pertain to each individual and must be respected above all.
I posted just to set some facts straight. I'd say false facts such as what you wrote annoys the sporty, old fashioned Briton inside me... ;)

Eh, I heard it from some friends of mine in the modding community who've examined your code whom I trust and respect, but I wouldn't be able to verify it. The best I can do is edit a name or so in a save game file

ubik

02-14-2010, 07:34

Your friends lied to you. And in doing so, they offended the Magna Mundi team.

I will be glad to publicly clear any issue if your friends of the modding community show themselves and level at me the the garbage you mentioned before. Unfortunately, such kind of slandering is usually the realm of coward and frustrated souls that run away from the spotlight when they risk to be exposed for what they are: liars.

It's really bad when such lies are spread and place a doubt on the roughly 20.000 hours we all devoted to this project since 3 years ago. We communicate and coordinate on DAILY basis. Matters of taste notwithstanding, we achieved our results through a combination of talent, dedication and team play. Not by clumsily glueing mods together.
I'll say it again: Magna Mundi is big enough to have given birth to two of the best EU3 mods out there: Sacra Romanum Imperium and Dei Gratia. They were not adopted by Magna Mundi. They are childs of it.

Ibn-Khaldun

02-14-2010, 15:48

First, lets calm down. ~:)

Secondly, I have been playing EU3: Heir to the Throne demo recently and I'm very happy to see that it's not as easy as the Vanilla game(also played demo) was.
Makes me want to buy the game after all these years. ~:)

ubik

02-14-2010, 20:28

EU3: HttT is the best grand strategy game in the market. You should get it. MUCH has changed since EU3 1.0

Zim

02-15-2010, 08:40

Just ordered EU3:Complete after having lost my old disks some 6 months ago. Of course, I'll be downloading HttH as soon as the game comes in. :beam:

Is HttT worth getting as is or does it need a patch or two to iron things out?

ubik

02-15-2010, 18:44

Its worth getting as is.

Zim

02-17-2010, 01:01

Just giving the HttT demo a try right now. I've gotta say, I've really missed EU3 this past year since I lost my old copy. Can't wait to start playing again.

Sasaki Kojiro

02-19-2010, 18:20

How does it compare to EU2? I'm still really loving that game.

The Wizard

02-19-2010, 21:17

It's less faithful to history and more a sandbox game.

naut

06-06-2010, 12:55

Finally got it. It's decent, with some major improvements over EUII. Yet, at the same time there is alot wrong with it.

Ibn-Khaldun

06-06-2010, 13:53

It's like CA games. Don't try the Vanilla but play the mods.

naut

06-06-2010, 16:18

Any recommendations on who to play as? I like playing as the Teutonic Order in EUII + AGCEEP, but they are much harder to play as in EUIII. Probabaly because I haven't yet got the hang of it.

TinCow

06-06-2010, 16:28

Any recommendations on who to play as? I like playing as the Teutonic Order in EUII + AGCEEP, but they are much harder to play as in EUIII. Probabaly because I haven't yet got the hang of it.

What kind of a game are you looking for? Major land wars? Peaceful expansion? Colonialism? Is there a particular part of the world you're more keen on?

miotas

06-06-2010, 17:06

Portugal and Spain are both good for getting into the game

Beskar

06-06-2010, 19:21

Which Eu3 version are you playing? (which expacs, beta patches, etc)

naut

06-07-2010, 02:38

Which Eu3 version are you playing? (which expacs, beta patches, etc)
EU3+NA+IN+HttT 4.1b

I thought I'd go the whole slog and get the complete set - I do intend to try Magna Mundi mod as well, but not just yet.

pevergreen

06-07-2010, 02:38

I'd put in the WMM. It doesnt change base gameplay, but makes it bigger and a lot more fun.

Try Leinster. :wink:

naut

06-07-2010, 13:26

Ugh. I much prefer EU2. :shrug:

Beskar

06-07-2010, 15:01

I'd put in the WMM. It doesnt change base gameplay, but makes it bigger and a lot more fun.

Try Leinster. :wink:

Is that the mod i am thinking of with the horrible "hand drawn" map?

(You can remove the hand-drawn part, that is good news.)

pevergreen

06-07-2010, 15:19

:laugh4:

Hand Drawn Map looks nice.

Beskar

06-07-2010, 15:55

Here it is, if you want to basically download and drag and drop to install it. I found their .exe to be really faulty, plus it has all the changes so it works fine with the beta patch.

http://rapidshare.com/files/396313515/mod.zip.html

Ja'chyra

06-16-2010, 18:26

So I bought the complete edition, it's hard.

Anyone got any good tips or guides? I was planning on starting as England, I would go Scotland but I reckon that would be too hard for a first try.

al Roumi

06-17-2010, 16:24

As miotas says above, I'd start a 1st game as Portugal or Castille. Get set for the brutal learning curve!

Over on the paradox forums, i see they have recently added a pdf strategy guide for HttT, I'm sure you'll find it useful. The game goes into suprising depth as well as being oddly quirky -there's alot to get to grips with.

Feel free to yell when jargon like "minting" gets too much.

Secura

06-17-2010, 16:59

England and Japan are perfect starters, principally because they're island nations with sizeable navies that all but crush those of their doorstep rivals (France/Burgundy and Manchu/Ming respectively); they're near impossible to invade in the early-game, leaving you to ensure your economy is in working order before expanding colonially or into France should the opportunity arise.

Castille and France are good for the steamroller factor, though. :3

miotas

06-17-2010, 17:49

Portugal is actually more of an "island" than England since Castille never attacks in the early game, and rarely attacks ever if you keep an alliance or good relations, and Castille is a more effect buffer against the rest of Europe than the channel is. Of course that also means Portugal's only expansion option is via colonies, whereas England can go into Europe if you so wish. If you go colonial, don't start too many colonies at once or the maintenance will cripple your economy.

Alexander the Pretty Good

06-17-2010, 18:23

naut

06-18-2010, 02:42

Portugal is actually more of an "island" than England since Castille never attacks in the early game
:grin:

My first play as Portugal. I was attacked and destroyed by Castille...

miotas

06-18-2010, 03:28

Seriously? How early was it and were you on good terms? The only time I've ever fought Castille as Portugal was a colonial conflict late in the game when we both had massive territories in the Americas.

naut

06-18-2010, 09:20

1405 or so. I owned Granada but had good relations. Perhaps they had a conquer Granada mission?

al Roumi

06-18-2010, 09:39

1405 or so. I owned Granada but had good relations. Perhaps they had a conquer Granada mission?

yah, conquering Granada is Castille's starting mission. :grin:

Edit: Not that the missions are scripted (i think), but Castille definitley gets that mission early and in almost every game I've played. One of its first moves as an AI player is always to finish the reconquista and take Granada.

pevergreen

06-18-2010, 10:58

A lot of AI castille's kill Portugal

Ja'chyra

06-18-2010, 15:22

So, I've started again, and again, as Castille.

I'm currently at 1415 and I have annexed Granada, vassalised Algiers and got Aragorn down to 1 region and Portugal down to 2.

I'm trying to get the quest to the new world idea so am concentrating on getting my trade tech to 7 when the penalties aren't too great. I'm not pulling in much money as I'm trying to keep inflation at 0 so I'm only making about 30 ducats a year. I've just been offered to make Castille an empire, should I do it?

I'm also getting a bit concerned about France and am considering allying with England.

miotas

06-18-2010, 16:19

As an Empire you will get slightly faster slider changes and your troops will have higher morale, but you will be able to support more troops as a Feudal Monarchy. The only real benefit from becoming an empire is that your title will change from King to Emperor. Here is a list of the government types and their benefits. http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Government#Heir_To_The_Throne

Do you have Httt or Complete? In Httt you will get a lot more magistrates as an empire, making it the better option.

If you are having trouble with inflation then you should probably take the National Bank idea before you consider going for the new world, establishing any colonies with income as low as that will cripple your economy. You should also hire any Master of the Mint advisors that become available since they will reduce your inflation quite a bit, allowing you to mint and still stay at 0 inflation.

pevergreen

06-18-2010, 17:22

I tend to get National bank first, with every nation. But I'm unhappy if I don't have 0.0% inflation.

Current game, I'm giving sweden a go. For such large land areas, so little income. Just took most of the Teutonic Order out.

Current plan (playing with Whole World Mod remember)

Sweden -> Scandanavia -> Prussia -> Germany -> Holy Roman Empire -> Roman Empire -> European Union

Its possible...the main thing will be getting it done before the reform making the HRE hereditary is passed, and converting primary culture from Swedish to Saxon.

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-22-2010, 03:09

Heh... remember when you all said Victoria was going to be too much for me even If I did get a grasp on EU3?

I concede that I may have been a bit gun ho in attitude towards it :laugh4: :laugh4:

I can already tell its gonna be fun, but I sense a lot of reading of manuals and wikis before I have any idea what I am doing. :beam:

But in a more related note, the sun never sets in the British empire once again!

https://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8839/eu3mapgbr1657311.png

I love how in all my games Granada ends up being actual competition for me. :tongue: keeps mucking around in the areas I am colonizing.

Tech stinks, so taking a few decades to work on that and build infrastructure. Only wars I do now are defensive wars to help vassals (which I have by the bucketful, so I have wars by the bucketful)

Beskar

06-22-2010, 21:14

Wow, what is with Persia owning the whole of central Asia?

Secura

06-22-2010, 21:31

Wow, what is with Persia owning the whole of central Asia?

Isn't that the Golden Horde? :3

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-22-2010, 21:57

Isn't that the Golden Horde? :3

No, Persia is kind of owning right now :tongue:

I really need to attack them at some point, their COT's are really cutting into my Indian trade. But man, are they tough. :no: Don't have the local force to take them on without a long fight.

I honestly don't know how it happened, unlike most of the rest of the world I have not messed with the Middle east.

edit: ahhhh looks like Persia has Iran and the golden horde has asia. They are almost exactly the same color, so its hard to differentiate between them

Ja'chyra

06-23-2010, 14:18

How do you take screenshots of the entire map?

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-23-2010, 15:35

Control+f12 is how I did it It takes a pic of the map and puts it in the games screenshot folder

Ja'chyra

06-23-2010, 17:21

Hmm, can't find the folder.

pevergreen

06-23-2010, 17:30

F12 is the normal screenshot (IN onwards) Shift+ F12 shows you and vassals etc

Screens are placed in base directory of game then in the screenshots folder. For me thats G:\EU III\Screenshots

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-23-2010, 17:38

If you have Vista or Windows 7 you will have to press Compatibility files in the EU3 folder

naut

06-23-2010, 19:04

seireikhaan

06-23-2010, 20:36

Novgorod gets too easy when you are able to form Russia. I haven't had much of challenge after I knocked out the Golden Horde.

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/57/eu3maprus15862191.jpg

https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2875/eu3maprus15862192.jpg

I'm aiming to reach the Pacific and take the remaining Tartar lands (in Crimea/Poland/Zaphrozite/Nogai/Georgia).
Ah, but the challenge of Russia isn't in taking Asia- after all, that's what you're supposed to do. The better challenge is in driving a wedge into europe. Or colonizing.

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-23-2010, 20:43

GAH! Everyone is leaving the HRE! All at the same time, and its killing my prestige. :sweatdrop: what can I do to either stop them or at the very least get some kind of revenge on them? :brood:

I end up with -100 prestige and nothing I can do about it! :bigcry:

pevergreen

06-24-2010, 05:03

naut

06-24-2010, 06:35

Ah, but the challenge of Russia isn't in taking Asia- after all, that's what you're supposed to do. The better challenge is in driving a wedge into europe. Or colonizing.
With my massive manpower and Land Tech Europe should fall easily. Colonizing not so much, my Naval Tech is ok, but I need cores on the east coast and Crimea to get the range required.

miotas

06-24-2010, 09:23

From a game I haven't played for a while, I started as Holland, got rich, became Emperor, got relations with as many of the member states as high as possible and implemented all the reforms turning my country into the HRE.

World map in 1792. One of my favourite tactics I would use to increase my army tradition and weaken my enemies without taking any infamy would be to declare war over the slightest of transgressions and force my enemy to release nations. This is actually how I first got started in the Americas, I forced Spain to release the Aztecs and Mayans, then I went and conquered them for myself.

The nation colour doesn't make for the best screenshot, but that grey in China and India doesn't belong to me, except half of Ceylon which is mine.
https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/EU3_MAP_HRE_1792117_1.jpg

The religious patchwork that is Europe.
https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/EU3_2.jpg
I have over 650 provinces, 20 vassals, almost 500 ships and an army of over a million men.

Monk

06-24-2010, 12:28

miotas

06-24-2010, 13:04

Actually, all of that infamy came from force vassalisations, I very rarely started a war without a valid cassus belli and I never took a province for more than 25% infamy. Imperialism and Holy War cassus belli's helped a lot until they ran out, the vast majority of my territory came from colonial wars cassus belli's when they turned up and of course my own colonies. All that meant that I never really had to stop taking land to wait for my infamy to drop.

I'm sure if I played again I could use what I learnt from this game to gain even more land, but lately I've been more interested in magna mundi.

EDIT: Oh, and the empire is very stable as well, only half a dozen provinces have any revolt risk, and none above 5.

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-24-2010, 16:05

Fight them.

What is your infamy?

Also, what imperial reforms have you passed?

Only have IN, not HTTT

Infamy is down at .4

and I don't have a valid cassus belli to declare war. I could use spies, but that seems like a stretch when there is literally 20 or so nations leaving.

might have to simply ride it out I guess......

Ja'chyra

06-25-2010, 14:36

Still can't find my screenshots and I don't have a compatability views button. I found my hidden HOI3 screenshot folder but no EU3 one, even under hidden folders and doing a search, weird.

miotas

06-25-2010, 14:53

See if this thread helps
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11000152

Try in:
C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Local\EU 3

Ja'chyra

06-25-2010, 17:02

Nope M, tried them but thanks for the help, I've tried the paradox forums and my google fu must be failing me.

Still, if it was easy it wouldn't be worth doing :P

Beskar

06-25-2010, 19:59

Don't save your games in programfiles, I recommend making a new folder called "Games" and installing/putting them in there. Majority of games like EU3, you can just cut and paste them over in the new folder.

ie: C:\Games or D:\Games

Secura

06-26-2010, 02:55

Beskar did this for me and it's really helped keep my files all in the same place; when I had Vista, it was splitting files into that stupid Virtual Store thing that I had no idea how to find because it was hidden away in the far reaches of My Computer. :<

Ja'chyra

06-28-2010, 12:52

So I've managed to get a game with Castille to 1460ish, I've taken over the whole of Aragon and Portugal only have their capital left, which is a vassal. I have also vassalised the whole of Ireland, I own half outright, all of England, who were taken over by Cornwall and Fez who split off from Morocco. As well as this I have 8 provinces in North Africa, 2 in Crimea and cities on Madeira, the Azores and the Canaries and 2 colonies in the Caribbean.

So far I've avoided all but small skirmishes with the French but I have a better income than them and about 10k more troops, Oh, I forgot I own half of the Brittany starting provinces as well. My prestige is about 70 odds and my reutation is sitting around -6.5 and I have changed to an empire and formed Spain.

It seems to me that the rest of the game from here on out would be too easy and I'm considering starting again to stop it getting boring.

I still can't seem to take screenshots, I'm playing with WWM, or at least I can't find them, I might have to re-install the game.

pevergreen

06-28-2010, 13:46

https://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3692/eu3mappru1555121.png

The product of about 25 mp hours so far. These guys will learn to play with inflation on and it not being on very easy eventually.

Three human players:

Great Britain
Russia
Portugal

Guess who I am.
GB/Russia are allied and helping each other out. As Portugal, I'm allied with France, we both honour the call to arms. I'm protecting Prussia, if either of the other two humans attack or mess with Prussia, I will attack them. My naval forcelimit is nearing 200, land 400. Thats without Grand Army/Navy.

Monk

06-28-2010, 13:51

Guess who I am.

The Netherlands? :grin:

pevergreen

06-28-2010, 13:58

I made burgundy release them about 100 years ago, been protecting them as well. :laugh4:

miotas

06-28-2010, 15:00

Those MP games look fun, I'd like to play one, but my internet can be temperamental on occasion.

What year are you up to?

Secura

06-28-2010, 15:38

I will attack them.

Mental note to self, do not play with pevergreen. :P

naut

06-28-2010, 18:38

pever what year? Anything later than 1600 and the guy playing as Russia is doing poorly.

Secura

06-28-2010, 22:01

And pevergreen's colonised a helluva lot if it's before 1600... o_O

pevergreen

06-29-2010, 02:54

Those MP games look fun, I'd like to play one, but my internet can be temperamental on occasion.

What year are you up to?

1555.

They are a lot of fun, its me, a guy in Vic and a guy in NSW.

Mental note to self, do not play with pevergreen. :P

:tongue: I deliberately restricted myself Iberia and the rest of the world.

pever what year? Anything later than 1600 and the guy playing as Russia is doing poorly.

Hes still new, going very slowly. He was allied with the Golden Horde for about 150 years, and Lithuania, getting dragged into their wars and not gaining anything. The guys are still getting the hang of declaring war with a CB, and the concept of war leaders. We're ignoring inflation/war exhaustion for now.

And pevergreen's colonised a helluva lot if it's before 1600... o_O

Yeah, nothing else to do. Portugal is good for it, some helpful discover missions. Only 2.3 colonists a year though, so conquering all the american tribes helped. Annual income has just topped 700, minting ~50 a month to lose about 1 a month.

Secura

06-29-2010, 09:47

:tongue: I deliberately restricted myself Iberia and the rest of the world.

That's all well and good, but your friends have to be careful where they expand in regards to the Germanic nations, lest you attack them, and colonial pursuits are largely closed off now because you own the majority of territories that the British have interest in and I highly doubt that he can throw out as many soldiers and ships as you can; I'm not sure what's left for the Great Britain player to do beyond warring with France for the next three centuries.

The Russian player has more pressing matters with what appears to be Bohemia and Byzantium eating into it's territory, so colonial pursuits are moot for him; glad to see the latter nation doing well, though... damn Ottomans usually wipe them out. :<

Yeah, nothing else to do. Portugal is good for it, some helpful discover missions. Only 2.3 colonists a year though, so conquering all the american tribes helped. Annual income has just topped 700, minting ~50 a month to lose about 1 a month.

It's really impressive that you've colonised that much in 150 years of the game, as well as unifying the Iberian Peninsula under the Portuguese flag. :3

miotas

06-29-2010, 10:15

You forget he's playing on easy without inflation. If there was no inflation you could lay down colonies like crazy.

How many developing colonies have you got at the moment, pever?

Secura

06-29-2010, 11:06

I play on Very Easy without inflation, and I've never been able to build up colonies like that within 150 years of the game.... I'd probably have about 50-60% of that. o_o'

Then again, I'm not very good at the game as-is. :laugh4:

pevergreen

06-29-2010, 13:17

You forget he's playing on easy without inflation. If there was no inflation you could lay down colonies like crazy.

How many developing colonies have you got at the moment, pever?

17-18.

I gave them the option of colonising, he didn't want to. My force limits exceeds theirs combined in both fields. If I get grand army/navy it'll just be murder.

I'm only really bothered with prussia, they can do anyone else.

naut

06-30-2010, 15:12

He's still new, going very slowly. He was allied with the Golden Horde for about 150 years, and Lithuania, getting dragged into their wars and not gaining anything. The guys are still getting the hang of declaring war with a CB, and the concept of war leaders. We're ignoring inflation/war exhaustion for now.
G.H. have to be avoided at least until you tech up land to about 12+ then you can eat them for breakfast.

pevergreen

06-30-2010, 15:49

G.H. have to be avoided at least until you tech up land to about 12+ then you can eat them for breakfast.

He's doing a bit better now.

1587

https://img69.imageshack.us/img69/961/eu3mapmp1587111.png

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-30-2010, 17:14

https://img94.imageshack.us/img94/992/eu3mappru16394131.png

Prussia game. Slowly working my way to forming Germany........ Austria is a monster I don't want to fight, and because I have not been able to project force like I could with Britain a few super nations have emerged. Unlike my Britain game this one has needed a lot more finesse and proper diplomacy.

Decided I am going to buy HTTT as well. Looks like it adds a ton to the game

Monk

06-30-2010, 18:16

:sweatdrop: Austria.

And do I spy Venice in control of the majority of Italy with NA colonies? Looks like a very fun game!

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-30-2010, 18:36

Yes, Thats Venice. :beam: They used to be a lot bigger, controlling all of Italy and a great deal of Illyria, but then they got into a fight with Austria..... :sweatdrop: Austria used to have Naples, but it rebelled a while ago.

Once I get my cores on Gabu I can start my own colonizing, but I am a bit late to the party. I need to find some way to weaken Austria. A task I dread :sweatdrop:

Alexander the Pretty Good

06-30-2010, 20:15

I'm in a similar boat with a Prussia game now at about 1540(?). I've got a respectable amount of territory (while you went west into Germany, I went a little more south and east where the conquest missions gave me cores) but I'm surrounded by super states. I've got a full-fledged Russia (from Muscovy) to the East, and they've started to eat into the Ottomans. I've got an Austria probably as powerful as yours, but while yours is one blob mine is roughly a band stretching from Northern Hungary in the east to Switzerland in the West. There's also Sweden that owns most of Scandinavia except for a bit of coast the French took from them, and Bohemia the current emperor and the closest thing I have to a rival I can actually deal with. And there's Spain and France that I can sort of ignore for now; France owns a ton of land and is about to eat Holland, and Spain has a massive colonial empire, mostly in Africa and Brazil.

It's been crazy. How do I take those screenshots again?

Cultured Drizzt fan

06-30-2010, 20:56

Ok then. Austria attacked Ukraine and now we are at war...... I was doing decently, until Denmark attacked.

I had to take out a loan to fund merc's to push Denmark back. That war ended and I am still trying to take out Austria/Lithuania. War exhaustion is at 10 for both me and austria, and I have him on the defensive. But I can't go in too far without taking huge attrition damage. :tongue: slithering around the edge and hoping to take out Lithuania to get me an opening. Wish me luck. :sweatdrop: I need it.

Ohh yeah. I missed the best part. Because I am intervening with Ukraine my only allies are Muscovy and another eastern state. You know, instead of MY allies (I have about 15 vassals. A few of them with decent armies.), who could actually CONTRIBUTE!!!!!

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-01-2010, 03:28

https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8084/eu3mappru1647851.png

Anyone see what I was successful in doing? :tongue: not much.

Its was one heck of a war.

I spent almost a year trying to block Austria and Lithuania from my land when I realized I needed to end this quickly and efficiently, delays were only hurting me.

My main force of about 45,000 Infantry (40,000 Gustavians and 5000 assorted mercenaries.) and 8000 Artillery men launched a daring push into Austrian territory. A secondary force of about 6000 Infantry and 20,000 Cavalry ran interference against the Lithuanians and stopped any sizable force from invading my core territory.

Working from my bases in Breslau I cut a path towards the Austrian capital going through Bohemian land in the process, and took what I could while trying to keep my attrition to a minimum (men were separated into three stacks. 2 of about 10,000 and one with 25,000). Austrians were scattered before me, and I used my spies to infiltrate their administration.

what I saw was about 60 individual stacks of men scattered through the nation. A few were large doomstacks, but for the most part only 1000 man units. Thats when I realized I had a chance.

My larger stack launched a attack on Wien, taking the city in days through assault. The Austrians mobilized what they could, and in days a force of 60,000 troops in all was assembled in the province to the south of Wien, and I called all the other stacks towards the Austrian capitol to support the troops there.

Wien became the key battleground of the war. It all came down to holding on to that city. The Austrians arrived to face my larger stack and one of the smaller stacks. The third was still enroute and 5 days away. I was badly outnumbered, but I had a average general and a important tech advantage (I have tech 29 while they only have tech 27.) The austrians were forced to fight a battle across a river, further giving the advantage to me. Casualties mounted and my third force arrived just in time to send the Austrians packing. The Austrians took more than 30,000 casualties in the fight, which enabled me to finally get a proper peace deal (before this point Austria had to many men to accept my demands) It was a resounding Victory, But I knew not to press my luck. I had risked everything on getting Wien, and Austria still had more than his fair share of armies sitting around. Further Lithuania had my cavalry force cornered and almost destroyed. Losing those men would mean I would have to fall back with my invasion force to stop the Lithuanians from rampaging across Prussia, and the entire battle would have been for naught. I got what I could in the peace deal and ended the war. After all, there will be a next time. I have the utmost confidence Austria will be unable to resist another attack on a minor nation, and I will be there when he does.

(The numbers may be slightly off, I can't be sure. You know what they say, the Victor writes history :beam: )

Martok

07-01-2010, 09:37

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-01-2010, 16:33

Nice job, Cultured Drizzt fan! That was fun to read. :yes:

So how long did the war last (in game time), anyway? I hear of short campaigns taking only a few months, and epic struggles lasting years in this game.

Almost 4 years, although most of that was spent in pretty useless back and forth fighting.

Monk

07-01-2010, 17:23

Almost 4 years, although most of that was spent in pretty useless back and forth fighting.

I was going to wager 3, impressive nonetheless. Who did you take to form Prussia, i'm guessing T-O? How is that game in terms of fun? I tried to do something similiar with Brandenburg but you spend the first twenty plus years of the game stuck as a vassal to Luxemborg ~:(

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-01-2010, 18:19

I was going to wager 3, impressive nonetheless. Who did you take to form Prussia, i'm guessing T-O? How is that game in terms of fun? I tried to do something similiar with Brandenburg but you spend the first twenty plus years of the game stuck as a vassal to Luxemborg ~:(

I went with the Teutonic order, and it was a lot of fun to be honest. :yes:, especially because even at my current point in the game I am challenged, something that really isn't true in my England game.

Getting to the reformation took a while, but even so it was very interesting.

I'm in a similar boat with a Prussia game now at about 1540(?). I've got a respectable amount of territory (while you went west into Germany, I went a little more south and east where the conquest missions gave me cores) but I'm surrounded by super states. I've got a full-fledged Russia (from Muscovy) to the East, and they've started to eat into the Ottomans. I've got an Austria probably as powerful as yours, but while yours is one blob mine is roughly a band stretching from Northern Hungary in the east to Switzerland in the West. There's also Sweden that owns most of Scandinavia except for a bit of coast the French took from them, and Bohemia the current emperor and the closest thing I have to a rival I can actually deal with. And there's Spain and France that I can sort of ignore for now; France owns a ton of land and is about to eat Holland, and Spain has a massive colonial empire, mostly in Africa and Brazil.

It's been crazy. How do I take those screenshots again?

Screenshots: should be f12, but I guess that doesn't work for some people.

Nice, I got a few cores from border disputes with the Russian nations, but beyond making sure none of them got too big I decided I wanted to focus west. I vassalized Tver and Novgorod just to be sure I did not have to deal with a united Russia, but I am sure you are going to have fun dealing with your own Russia :tongue:

I am dreading what France will do. The western reaches of Germany are all my vassals, so when he goes on the warpath I am going to be dragged along with my vassals.

That sounds like a awesome game, love to see the Screenshot if you can get it to work.

Beskar

07-01-2010, 20:13

Nice, I got a few cores from border disputes with the Russian nations, but beyond making sure none of them got too big I decided I wanted to focus west. I vassalized Tver and Novgorod just to be sure I did not have to deal with a united Russia, but I am sure you are going to have fun dealing with your own Russia :Tongue:.

Should do what I do. Make United Russia your vassal. Do this by vassalising Moscowy or Novograd and give them terrority from Eastern conquests so they form Russia themselves.

This is very good for completely securing your Eastern border, plus you will have a big strong Russia giving you 50% of its income, plus it provides troops for your wars, and makes sure anything from the East can threaten your empire.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-01-2010, 21:53

Should do what I do. Make United Russia your vassal. Do this by vassalising Moscowy or Novograd and give them terrority from Eastern conquests so they form Russia themselves.

This is very good for completely securing your Eastern border, plus you will have a big strong Russia giving you 50% of its income, plus it provides troops for your wars, and makes sure anything from the East can threaten your empire.

hhhhmmmmm What provinces would I have to give to Novgorod for that to happen?

Second war just erupted when Austria attacked Ukraine

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-01-2010, 22:26

https://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5059/eu3mappru1658931.png

2 more nations released. Austria is not looking so tough now :tongue: well, it looks less tough. 2nd war was a lot smoother than the first, but there was still a few key moments where My battered armies were beaten and close to being destroyed. Still, I was a great deal more prepared for the fight, and the releasing of Bohemia gave me a way to sneak into Austria's heartland. I got about 70 war score before I made the peace treaty. War exhaustion was high, and Lithuania had slipped behind my men and taken one of my cities. Unlike the second war however I think Austria was on its last legs.

In the 1st war Austrian troop levels had hovered at around 80,000 in all almost continually, even my huge victory at Wien only temporarily set them back. But this war they only had about 20,000 at the very end. :beam: Next war its going to be even easier to crush them.

Infiltrate administration has proved to be a lifesaver. At this point I only have one big fear. That Austria will inherit Lithuania (they are in a PU. :tongue: and of course Austria is leading) Lithuanian land tech is pathetic, so much so that the Lithuanian front of any war is wrapped up easily (unless they manage to sneak some armies around when I need them elsewhere.) and I am able to fight them with only my 20,000 man Cavalry stack, and a few 4,000 man infantry siege stacks (compared to the 60,000 men I need if I want to gain any ground in Austria). If Austria got access to Lithuania's resources I am pretty sure it would go back to being a huge problem. :tongue:

Secura

07-02-2010, 11:20

Screenshots: should be f12, but I guess that doesn't work for some people.

For me (default HttT settings):

F11 - Screenshot
F12 - Entire Map
Shift-F12 - Owned/Vassalised Provinces Map

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-03-2010, 03:26

Austria just collapsed into rebellions. :tongue: I should feel happy, but to be honest I am not sure where I should go now (was looking forward to a third war I guess). Lithuania is still a (quasi) threat. And I might want to form a Russian Vassal as Beskar Suggested. But I am honestly just losing steam. Getting those last few Provinces to form Germany is going to be a slog, but I feel like I want to at least accomplish that before ending my game.

Alexander the Pretty Good

07-03-2010, 05:46

https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/EU3_MAP_PRU_157526_1.png
Here's the state of the world 1575. It's a little hard to see, but that's the size of the screenshot the game gave me. :shrug:

Prussia is surrounded by the Monster Russia, the amorphous Austria, Protestant Sweden to the North, Bohemia where Bohemia should be (:P) and France beginning to eat Protestant Holland. Great Britain owns that little bit of red near the Crimea by Russia and I think the Beleares island by Spain.

Spain is going to own most of Africa and you can see them in Brazil, too. Portugal has almost all the Eastern Seabord of the US. The Mamelukes own most of the Middle East now except for Egypt, which is Spanish, but the Russian menace will probably put them down.

Japan is expanding into the mainland and might slow down the Ming(?) over there.

This is the current HTTT, so it definitely hasn't solved blobbing by any stretch of the imagination. :sweatdrop:

EDIT: Also, the countries south of me are my cute vassals Polotsk and south of them the somewhat hostile Ukrainians. Everyone with a border with me hates me, for the most part. Mostly due to going Protestant. I think Silesia is still kicking around (Bohemia keeps trying to get them to convert but they are rebuffing them; I've guaranteed Silesia as a chance to get a free shot on Bohemia if it comes to blows). I've been contemplating trying to buy better relations with France and Russia, the latter out of self-preservation and the former to offset Austria.

Meneldil

07-03-2010, 10:06

All this blobbing by 1575 is insane :( EUIII would be such a great game if it wasn't so easy for lucky nations.

johnhughthom

07-03-2010, 15:53

EUIII would be such a great game if it wasn't so easy for lucky nations.

You can turn Lucky Nations off you know.

Monk

07-03-2010, 21:15

You can turn Lucky Nations off you know.

Lucky Nations turned off creates some crazy outcomes. Austria fractured into a tri-stated minor, Wales emerging and taking over England, a super powered Novgorod and Ireland forming and taking portions in mainland europe are just a few things i've seen within the same game with luckies off. I know there's lots of Lucky supporters, but for me keeping it off is the key to a very spontaneous and fun game :yes:

Ja'chyra

07-04-2010, 07:22

He's doing a bit better now.

1587

https://img69.imageshack.us/img69/961/eu3mapmp1587111.png

How did you get enough colonists to get all those colonies by 1550?

You must have most of them as cities otherwise your economy would be in ruins. I'm only getting 1.6 colonists a year.

pevergreen

07-04-2010, 07:36

How did you get enough colonists to get all those colonies by 1550?

You must have most of them as cities otherwise your economy would be in ruins. I'm only getting 1.6 colonists a year.

2.3 or so. We're further than this now. Started colonising very early.

We've basically won. Russia by himself beat Byzantium, Portugal and GB (with Prussia and my (Portugese) vassals) beat France. My land tech is like 8 behind everyone else, so 64 thousand men of mine are beaten by 10k french troops.

I put lucky nations on Random.

Ja'chyra

07-04-2010, 14:09

Finally figured out how to take screenshots.

Now, how do I post them?

Ja'chyra

07-04-2010, 14:27

Think I figured it out.

This is me at 1517, I have started branching out in Mexico and Cuba, France has imploded but Lithuania and Milan are growing.

pevergreen

07-04-2010, 15:55

Finally figured out how to take screenshots.

Now, how do I post them?

I'd recommend going to somewhere like https://imageshack.us/ and uploading it, resize it to a smaller size if you play on a high resolution (like I do) It will give you the code to paste into here and it will show as the others do.

pevergreen

07-05-2010, 11:28

Current screens of my MP game.

https://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9707/eu3mapspa16447271.png

https://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2481/eu3mapspa16447272.png

Ja'chyra

07-06-2010, 13:16

naut

07-06-2010, 13:49

I've found so far that there are brief periods of frantic activity followed by years of improving my reputation and suppressing revolts.
Pretty much sums up the game.

miotas

07-06-2010, 14:03

Looking for some advice on what type of government to go for.

I am still playing as Castille and am concentrating on colonising the Americas and Africa but also swallowing up European and Middle Eastern provinces when the opportunity arises so I have quite a wide empire.

I went with the Empire option when I took over the Iberian peninsula but not sure whether I should be aiming for something else, advice on sliders would also be good.

I've found so far that there are brief periods of frantic activity followed by years of improving my reputation and suppressing revolts.

Administrative monarchy and Constitutional republic are both good options as they provide a significant boost to production efficiency. Noble republic is also a good choice, as you can get the benefits of a republic fairly early on, as well as retaining the ability to marry. Most republics will also give more tolerance to heretics and heathens which may be helpful, if you are going more to innovation and can't get missionaries. On that note, if you are tending to innovation, then it's a good idea to take the "ecumenism" national idea since it will completely negate the notorious "Religious civil disorder" event.

naut

07-06-2010, 14:14

On that note, if you are tending to innovation, then it's a good idea to take the "ecumenism" national idea since it will completely negate the notorious "Religious civil disorder" event.
Hmm. Good to know for my Russia game.

pevergreen

07-06-2010, 17:30

https://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8118/eu3mapmp1674161.png

Map as it stands now. GB and I did a wonderful war against france, which comprised of me sending 332 thousand men at him. For the first time, I wasn't taking hits like 20 - 4500 (I kill 20 and he kills 4500 per hit?). I put advisors to +Discipline, had my land tech as equal and I beat him up.

Soon after, Russia and I destroyed ming, who after the truce, was annexed by Russia. I think I may have to war him soon.

https://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2922/eu32y.png

The Spanish-French border for about 50 years prior to the war.

Monk

07-08-2010, 01:04

I've been playing recently, chose Burgundy since i heard they can be quite interesting. I had no idea how good of a position they, in fact, have from the 1399 start date.

They have amazing slider position, rich lands, a very impressive COT and some of the best missions outside of the western majors (Castile, England and France in particular). A few slider movements gave me full innovative so i'm way ahead of pretty much everyone in the tech race, and i don't see that changing any time soon. You also start out with the force limits to challenge the BBB next door, which i was a bit skeptical to even attempt at first but a clash seemed inevitable, which eventually lead to my proudest accomplishment in EUIII

https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x301/swcsalha/EU3_1.jpg

I'd like to say it was difficult, but it really wasn't! France got entangled in a huge war with England and Castile around 1420 and was desperately trying to fight them off. I saw an opening and took it, the climactic show-down between the doomstack of 32k french troops and my own stack of 26k took place at my capital and might have ended badly if the french had not been demoralized, tired, and a long way from home and reinforcements. The destruction of their doomstack sent the entire nation into a death spiral, pushing their War exhaustion way over the limit. After peace was concluded they suffered through decades of anarchy as they tried to scrap together an army again but completely lacked the manpower.

They attempted a comeback 10 years before this picture but ran into the English, who took all of the south-west coast from them. After that, France was a two province minor - and I took the stab and infamy hit that comes with no CB to end them once and for all. The next challenge will be uniting the southern minors while limiting influences of the foreign powers, after that, England will have to be removed from the mainland. Once that is finally accomplished, there will be the matter of the HRE to deal with. ~D

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-08-2010, 05:34

*sigh* Playing HTTT, having a lot of fun in a Ottoman game. But my luck seems to be turning against me. Getting stability hits every year it seems, and my bulky empire has a hard time bouncing back from them.

game seems much harder, though that may simply be the fact I am playing a more eastern nation than usual. (god my tech stinks....)

heh.... Love the new dynasty rules and inheritances. Easy to plan out roads that can allow you to pick up some nice PU's. (got a PU with the Horde, and just inherited another middle eastern nation)

pevergreen

07-08-2010, 06:22

I've been told that if you have a Natural Scientist (production tech investment guy) you never get hit by the 'Comet Sighted' event.

Ja'chyra

07-08-2010, 08:09

pevergreen

07-08-2010, 09:11

I still don't know how you can have so many colonies so early Pever, I am playing on medium with inflation on, does that make a difference as I only have a fraction of those provinces. I couldn't possibly have even the number of South America provinces even if I started colonising at 1399, I just wouldn't have enough colonists

Its a lot easier with very easy/no inflation. Outside of that, I doubt you could do it. Portugal got quite a few missions for me that allowed me to start early, annex all the native americans, i took the NI for 1 extra colonist a year, made sure all my CoT's were on the coast (+-.1) a year. I got 4-5 missions that said 'discover x' so I did, got 5 colonists as a reward. I didn't have to worry about anything else, as I got Castille in a PU early, then with the help of GB, annexed him. Same with Aragon. By this point, I had enough of the NA coast that it would have been impossible for any other nation to colonise at that point (France had gone full land, Aragon was my vassal and GB was a human player who didn't want to colonise) so I made sure I went for the coast first, to prevent anyone else getting a foothold. I ignored Africa/Asia. I doubt it is possible outside of a MP game where all human players are teaming up.

Ja'chyra

07-08-2010, 16:42

That makes me feel a bit better, thought I had seriously messed up somewhere

Beskar

07-09-2010, 05:30

pevergreen has it on 400 colonists per colonist mission too.

autolycus

07-09-2010, 21:02

So this may not be the best thread to ask this in, but I figured you guys might know. I'm working my way through Crusader Kings as Aragon to export into EUIII, and I can't figure out how to marry off my vassals that aren't my blood relatives. Any suggestions?

johnhughthom

07-09-2010, 22:17

You can't marry off anyone not in your court.

autolycus

07-10-2010, 02:04

They're in my court, but not my blood-relatives. I can say yes to requests for their hands, but I haven't figured out how to actively try to marry them off.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-10-2010, 03:51

Another comment:

I think I need to find some way to keep my heir quarantined, because they must be walking through plague infested land to get ill this much. :tongue:

The Ottoman Empire is shaping up quite well, only problem is Athens.... Great Britain has it, and attempts at getting it to revolt have all failed. Other than that Greece is mine, and I am just cleaning up the last 2 provinces in Turkey. Got large Vassals along all my borders, and I am controlling Arabia via vassals.

And things are looking good in europe as well Trier got HUGE just a little while ago, Took over Lorraine, Baden, and Switzerland before being taken apart. :tongue: too bad, I was rooting for him. France is a mess, and all without my intervention :beam: Sicily was close to forming Italy, but then Austria came to the Popes aid. As for the HRE, only one reform passed, and I doubt any more will be. Title of Emperor seems to get passed off like hot potato, right now its Portugal.

johnhughthom

07-10-2010, 11:00

They're in my court, but not my blood-relatives. I can say yes to requests for their hands, but I haven't figured out how to actively try to marry them off.

Oh, you can't. All you can do is hope somebody else requests them. You can marry them to somebody else in your court, I'm guessing they're useless and you just want rid of them though...

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-11-2010, 05:01

https://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1463/eu3maptur15494201.png

The world in 1549. With the western nations having fought tooth and nail to reach the top of the heap, some great powers have arisen as being more powerful than the rest;

the Iberian Peninsula has remained stable, But the Iberian Nations are expanding elsewhere, Rapidly. Portugal Picked up more than its fair share of land on the continent due to its stint as Holy Roman Emperor, now holding most of northeastern France, as well as Pommerania. Castille.....Castille took pretty much all of North africa, and most of west africa as well, giving them such a huge manpower base that they are holding steady at around 114,000 troops in all. And of Course they go and meddle with the Mamluks, putting them in contact with me. :wall: Not even sure I have a remote chance against Castille. Aragon is still around, that's its biggest accomplishment :beam:. In all my biggest two threats by far are Castille and Portugal, Nothing else comes close (although The Russia nations are closing the gap..... :sweatdrop:) I fought a successful war against both of them about 70 years ago to take Trebizon and Sinope, as well as when I took Rhodes, but this was long before they expanded this much, and for the most part I just responded to their amphibious assaults until they got tired of war. (this was before I had time to invest in a proper navy. Now THEY will be the ones in trouble at sea. :yes: None of them have more than a tiny amount of ships compared to their bulk, and my lean mean fighting machine of a fleet can take them out. Hopefully.)

Austria: Protestant nation, they decided they didn't like the Pope anymore and decided Italy should be theirs. They have their fair share of land and troops, but nothing I can't manage. The Pope took his government in exile to Wurtemburg, where they have carved out a nice little kingdom. Austria is bordering my Vassals, but unless it attacks while I am fighting another major nation I think I am fine.

Great Britain: God I love War exhaustion. I had my little war with Britain, and after 5 years of me waiting for their transports to bring 1000 man armies back and forth to be slaughtered I used spies to lower Englands stability. It did help that they were also at war with parts of France but, I got Athens and Released Munster. The combination of Low stability, War exhaustion, and war with a bunch of other nations left Great Britain with the loss of most of its power. They used to own Frances North west and West coast utterly, but lost it. They also had Tyrone Revolt, as well as Cornwall, Wales, and Scotland. Ireland formed eventually, and although GB has retaken most of the isles, they have still lost most of their bite. Can't wait to see how Ireland turns out though :beam:. During my war England had 77 Big ships, now it has 13. Much more manageable. (the War with Britain was the first one where my Fleet proved its worth, sinking any small convoys that came to my land, and sneaking back to my ports when the big 77 ship fleet came by.)

France: Still a mess. New nations get the upper hand all the time, only to lose it in the ensuing BB wars, after which the winners take a bunch of land and get BB warred themselves. Although Lorraine is a HUGE surprise, Taking a ton of land and being able to keep a hold of it for a while now.

Sweden: as you can see Sweden has come out on top in Scandinavia, and is just finishing off Norway.

Poland: Seems like a big threat on the map, but in reality not as big a problem as I thought it would be. Which is good.

The Russians: Dear god. Back when the Golden Horde was my PU they were a distant threat, fighting one another mostly and not much else. But The silly Golden Horde decided it didn't want to be under my benevolent rulership any more, and sabotaged relations so that when my king died it fell apart. Then the Horde was torn to pieces, with nothing I could do. Now I am trying to patch up this mess by forming another line of Vassals, similar to what I have along the Western front. I have fought a few wars, but Attrition really works against my armies, so I only superficially scratch them and maybe get a nation or two released. Muscovy was forced south by Wars with Novgorod, But took more than enough land from the Horde to keep it a big threat. Novgorod is the bigger enemy, and has been extremely aggressive thus far. Novgorod has an army equal to mine, muscovy a decent amount less. I completely Blame the Horde for this mess. :tongue: which has nothing to do with me not being able to inherit the huge tracks of land any more. (meh, most of it is dirt poor anyways, probably would have released most of it as vassals anyway)

and then there is the Middle east and Asia:

Timurids: Utterly collapsed. Picked a fight with me and my eastern allies, and though we did very little, the Rebels that ended up appearing slowly tore the nation apart. Notable Rebel nations:
Persia: Becoming a actual threat to my authority in the middle east, they tore chunks from the Mamluks down south and have become a real regional Power.

Mamaluks: Used to be a big kid on the block in the middle east. For a while I wasn't sure I would be able to easily take them out. Now they are simply pathetic. I declared war and got Syria released (now my Vassal) as well as took Alexandria (my CB was Subjugation from my Missions, "Bring down the mamluks"..... I still have that mission, and the CB expired and I can't go to war again without a 2 stab hit.) Thats when the Fun started. War exhaustion was high, and Peasants took over the entire nation. To give perspective the Mamluks used to stretch from Cyrene to Aleppo, and to the south they owned all of the Swahilis land and Somalia. The rebels took over and Persia attacked. Persia took the Horn of Africa and Swahili revolted. Then Castille marched in..... :sweatdrop: I watched as their armies swept through Egypt from my safe perch in Alexandria. They carved the Maluks up, taking most of the choice land. I was needless to say, Pissed. Those were MY choice territories being taken! Now the Mamluks are a sad little line on the map. they are in my SOI, but I am not sure if that will fully deter Castille. We will see.

Arabia: My little puppets, controlling the land for me via Proxy. Only one nation holds out against me, and that's Oman. The second I get a decent CB on it I am going to finish my little set down there :beam:

Caucasus: A mixture of my allies and neutrals, I may have to expand here soon if I want the manpower to Attack Castille. I have been courting the smaller Nations for Vassalage, and protecting Armenia. But little has come from it.

https://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5054/eu3maptur15494202.png

The Ottoman Empire and its Dependent States.

Expansion involved a lot of Missions. I had to fight more than my fair share of Western Nations in the process, but Frances collapse meant most of the Crusader states were there for the taking. Last few pieces to fall into Place were Cyprus and of course Kaffa. My navy has been bulked up to about 10 big ships, 10 small ships, and 20 Galleys. Which is more than enough to take out most western nations fleets.

Army is about 55,000 men, Decent number, and I am just now phasing in use of Artillery. I westernized a while ago, so my tech is bouncing back, but I have not gotten a 7 admin ruler to modernize my military. Being able to use Cultural tradition to crank out 5 star Artists was a life saver for my Stability, and I was able to follow my Westernizing up by Reforming my government to a Empire for added Magistrate goodness. The bonus to Infamy I got from despotic monarchy was nice, but I burned my infamy all off before making any changes. (got high at times, about 6 points below my limit. And again, another time where making Great men came in handy) Now I am all reformed up, moved my Capitol to Constantinople, all my provinces converted, and quite a few are changing Culture to Turkish, which is nice. I ended my membership to Genoa's trade league, and built a COT in Thrace. Right now I am laying down all the Road systems I can, as well as Post offices, and things have been going great economically. Just waiting on that 7 admin king.......

Short term goals:
1. Reach some sort of Balance of Power in the Steppe's
2. Vassalize Crimea, or annex it to complete the Crimean peninsula.
3. diplo Annex Syria soon, and patch relations with vassals afterword
4. Break Persia and Destory the COT at Fars to force more trade through Thrace.
5. Expand in the Caucasus.
5. Attack Venice and force them to hand over Crete
6. find some way to Vassalize the Mamluks
7. Finish up Road systems and build up a magistrate reserve to get some of the fun Provincial decisions for my Capitol.
8. Modernize military. All the sucky Heirs seem to live longer than they should.....

Long term:
1. Kick the Spanish out of North Africa.
2. Push back Russians
3. ????
4. Profit

And thats about it. :laugh4:

I've been told that if you have a Natural Scientist (production tech investment guy) you never get hit by the 'Comet Sighted' event.

Funny thing is I have only gotten 1 or so Comet. (ironically right after reading what you said) for the most part the Stab hits come from things like the nobles being jerks or stuff. And the choice is always too painful for me to not take the Stab hit.

I've been playing recently, chose Burgundy since i heard they can be quite interesting. I had no idea how good of a position they, in fact, have from the 1399 start date.

They have amazing slider position, rich lands, a very impressive COT and some of the best missions outside of the western majors (Castile, England and France in particular). A few slider movements gave me full innovative so i'm way ahead of pretty much everyone in the tech race, and i don't see that changing any time soon. You also start out with the force limits to challenge the BBB next door, which i was a bit skeptical to even attempt at first but a clash seemed inevitable, which eventually lead to my proudest accomplishment in EUIII

https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x301/swcsalha/EU3_1.jpg

I'd like to say it was difficult, but it really wasn't! France got entangled in a huge war with England and Castile around 1420 and was desperately trying to fight them off. I saw an opening and took it, the climactic show-down between the doomstack of 32k french troops and my own stack of 26k took place at my capital and might have ended badly if the french had not been demoralized, tired, and a long way from home and reinforcements. The destruction of their doomstack sent the entire nation into a death spiral, pushing their War exhaustion way over the limit. After peace was concluded they suffered through decades of anarchy as they tried to scrap together an army again but completely lacked the manpower.

They attempted a comeback 10 years before this picture but ran into the English, who took all of the south-west coast from them. After that, France was a two province minor - and I took the stab and infamy hit that comes with no CB to end them once and for all. The next challenge will be uniting the southern minors while limiting influences of the foreign powers, after that, England will have to be removed from the mainland. Once that is finally accomplished, there will be the matter of the HRE to deal with. ~D

Nice, I was tempted to Try a Burgundy game, and reading this I might have to give it a whirl after the Ottomans are done.

edit: ohhh yeah, remember what I said about the HRE? where I was laughing? I was wrong. DEAD wrong. Reforms are going through at a decent pace, and Hesse just became Emperor for the 3rd time.

Monk

07-11-2010, 09:25

Nice, I was tempted to Try a Burgundy game, and reading this I might have to give it a whirl after the Ottomans are done.

I highly recommend it, Burgundy has proven to be a very interesting, harrowing and fun game. I get the feeling you need a a lot of luck to take down the french as early as I did, but when it works out? It's amazing. ~D Our games seem to be advancing at around the same speed as I just hit 1540, allow me to show the fruit of my efforts.

The last screen was nearly one hundred years ago. What began as a mission to survive, coexist and outlast the mighty Kingdom of France changed in the 1460s when France was out of the picture. England, Aragon, Castile, Naples: They were all encroching into the south of France, taking advantage of the lack of a strong centalized nation to protect the minor powers. I had to change my game plan:

The world of 1549 -
https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x301/swcsalha/EU3_MAP_FRA_1549825_1.jpg

The Kingdom of France had to be reformed if the southern states were to be brought into the fold. If the English and Spanish kingdoms were to be driven out, so that's what I did. Even with the added cores on a great deal of my rivals pushing them back was not an easy task, the most stubborn of which proved to be Castile, who still to this day commands the second largest army in the world. It's been a long road to this point, my tech advantage has disappeared somewhat but I still hold a 3 tech lead, which i'm using to batter down anyone who doesn't fall in line before I lose it.

Europe is in chaos, the reformation shook the very center of the Empire and for the past 40 years various nations have been at war over matters of religion more often than land. The electorates of the empire cannot agree upon whom to elect, nearly completely split down the middle in terms of which faith is the true one. During a vote deadlock in the 1520s the crown passed to the nation with the most prestige up for vote, Me. Though i've lost favor with the electorates since I've been fighting for religious unity for thirty years, it's a war i'm winning, but it's been costly.

https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x301/swcsalha/EU3_2.jpg

While my realm is the most tolerate society in Europe through the use of national ideas and passing acts that allow more freedoms regardless of faith, the rest of the empire is not. Austria and Poland stand as the last truly powerful Catholic nations in the east amidst a sea of the Reformed and Protestant nations. And they've been a thorn in my side for decades! For now, I am content to build my strength in Italy, as you can see from the first screen. I hold Milan in a Personal Union and have a number of allies and vassals in the north. Meanwhile, Austria is gaining power with every province they take from the Ottomans. It won't be long before they start closing the gap.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-11-2010, 19:21

Nice!

I have been wondering, how the heck do you get a multiplayer game going? Is there like lobbies or something?

Beskar

07-11-2010, 21:19

Ask people you know, or post on forums.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-11-2010, 23:12

ahhh cool. Need to find some games then, seems like it would be fun.

also, Short Term Goal checklist:
1. Still working on the Steppes. Slowly building some vassals
2. Annexed after failing to honor our alliance
3. not done yet, but hopefully soon
4. To busy elsewhere to worry about Persia
5. Crete rebelled and I quickly gobbled him up
6. Castille DOW'ed me, and I managed to take back much of the Mamluks land. I got rid of my mission, so vassalizing them is no longer a major concern
7. Road system done.
8. Finally got a 7 Admin king!!!!!!! Hurrah! Now as soon as I am all ready for the Stab hit I can finish up my modernization

Update:
Modernization is done, and the rebel wacking that ensued is likewise complete.
Arabia is finally fully vassalized. Oman made the silly mistake of attacking Yemen, thinking I was too busy in an epic war with Castille. Sadly they were wrong.
Mamluks Vassalized, got the mission again :tongue:
That leads me to the double whammy. Persia got themselves in a war with Castille over Somalia, and Persia was badly beaten in the war. I took advantage of Castilles weakness to attack them. :beam: Unlike earlier in the game I now have a tech lead over Castille, and against my modernized armies and better cavalry Their armies were routed again and again (my generals are excellent as well, another benefit from rebel whacking and Battlefield Commissions.) I swept over North Africa and Castillan possessions in Egypt. I couldn't push it any farther because Attrition was wearing me down, but I managed to take all of Castilles land in Egypt, and I am in a good position to follow up that victory when the Truce expires. Castille is huge, but the fact it has to garrison such a huge empire makes my victories easy for the most part.

I sold some of the Egyptian provinces back to the Mamluks if they were poor enough, and I think they will be a decent ally in future wars. However, I kept a few and now have much of the Nile delta as well as Judea. (extra .5 missionary means its time to increase Innovative! See if I can't get a tech equal to some OPM's in Europe!! :laugh4:)

pevergreen

07-13-2010, 09:38

Just to match everyone else, I've been playing a game with all default settings (so normal for everything, except random nations - lucky) 29th april beta patch etc

I picked Brandenburg. Plently of new stuff to check out with the beta, its been fun.

I may do a huge writeup when the game ends, but for now: state of the world at 2nd Jan, 1549

https://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2104/eu3mapbra1549121.png

Alternate version:
https://img199.imageshack.us/img199/125/eu35u.png

Funny picture of France attempting to attack anyone.

https://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9707/eu34.png

Me + Vassals and Prussia, who is under a PU with me. (They were formed by the TO, I want to be prussia, therefore PU)

https://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6539/eu3mapbra1549122.png

pevergreen

07-13-2010, 15:24

August, 1600. The last few decades have been under the rule of a genius (7/8/9 stats)

It has been mostly rebel bashing, slowly converting (0.4 missionaries a year) and a few small wars to get the cores given to me by boundary issues.

Say hello to Prussia. ~:wave:

https://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6979/eu3mappru16008151.png

England and Scotland have solidified their holding in the Isles, with GB holding just one province on there.

All of the Isles are colonising. Aragon just got put under a PU with Spain, so that will be a big blob again soon. Still, Ottomans are my main concern, I think I'll hit them next time they attack Lithuania (they just finished a war with them, they took 5-6 provinces)

The Pope is my vassal. Take that Catholics! (as is Poland)

I was wondering who that was up in Iceland...would you believe that it is...The Knights!

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-13-2010, 16:05

Whoa..... Thats a lot of Vassals. Makes me feel slow. :laugh4:

Whats going on in Ireland? And how much of your land is cored? Did you Diplo-annex most of your land?

pevergreen

07-13-2010, 16:20

I formed the HRE then modded myself back to prussia, because I like the colour and Prussia more than HRE.

All of it will become core in 15 years.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-13-2010, 16:47

I formed the HRE then modded myself back to prussia, because I like the colour and Prussia more than HRE.

All of it will become core in 15 years.

ahhh Ok, that makes more sense. Cool.

decimator22

07-14-2010, 02:18

pevergreen

07-14-2010, 02:22

Just recently started playing EUIII for the first time as Castille and have formed Spain. I've mostly got the hang of it. Although Morocco and France have been a pain, attacking with massive armies.
If I might say pevergreen, your empires are always :jawdrop: impressive.

:laugh4: Thanks, but I'm finding it a lot more difficult with normal infamy and 50 year cores (the way its meant to be played)

My expansion was halted for about 150 years due to my inability to get in any war without Bohemia and/or Lithuania coming in. I couldn't support more than 30k troops, even as Emperor. I just honoured calls, let myself gain the authority and let them lose/fight them off (Each time, half the empire joined in.) Reform after reform, and now I'm big enough to cause some damage.

decimator22

07-17-2010, 21:01

You're quite the machiavellian politic.

Here is my Spanish Empire.
https://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd337/decimator22/EU3_MAP_SPA_1607225_1.jpg
I have been at war with Great Britian for a very long time and have taken almost all of their colonies, however they won't sign peace. :( During the war with GB I was attacked by a French coalition and a Muslim coalition. I was almost taken down but thankfully they started battleing between themselves and made peace with me. I want the colonies of GB in America but they won't accept, I'm pretty confident I can defeat them. However my war exhaustion is very high and paritcular rebellions are coming up everywhere. So what should I do? Continue the war until GB accept peace or go for a more moderate peace and retry later when my war exhaustion is lower. I'm near 1600 and GB is more or less the only protestant country, with the great mayority being catholic.

pevergreen

07-18-2010, 16:10

It depends what the warscore is for what you want.

If you can get say, half the colonies right now, do it, let your war exhaustion drop, and get them next time.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-18-2010, 17:19

I would say go with what Pever says, If you can get a decent amount of their colonies now then do so. War score can be a real killer, and its doubtful England will be Going anywhere, and if at first you don't succeed.

Just had the most lucky Holland game I possibly could! :laugh4: I got 2 border disputes with Utrecht and Friesland within months of each other, and was able to attack them both with only interference of Brabant. It all meant I formed the Netherlands by about 1420, and could pick up the rest of the Netherlands cores without any Infamy. :laugh4: I dominate every known market, and my tech is ridiculously high compared to Europe, and the ahead of time penalties and a decent Master of Mint means I am actually turning in a profit in monthly income. Its fun and easy, and for now everything seems to be going my way.

Greyblades

07-18-2010, 18:03

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-18-2010, 18:08

Hey pev how did you get the country names to show up like that?

I heard on the EU Forums that it only happens in the new beta patch, although I don't know for sure.

Monk

07-19-2010, 00:49

I heard on the EU Forums that it only happens in the new beta patch, although I don't know for sure.

Yup, it was one of the features added in one of the beta patches. It's a great touch.

decimator22

07-19-2010, 01:51

Well I had enough warscore for the colonies however they continued to refuse. Then for the better or the worse Sweden got myself into a war with a coalition of protestant minors led by GB. In which almost immediatly they offered white peace, which I accepted. The particularist were driving me nuts spawning all over the place. I needed some rest! However GB has been at war against a Swedish led coalition, then a French one, and is now fighting a Holland led coalition. This has weakened it and when I'm fully recovered I will attack once more. Due to other events, I'm at narrowmind +5, so I'm pretty backwards technologically. Anyone know how to catch up quickly?

al Roumi

07-19-2010, 10:45

Research = money therefore you need Peace -at least for a bit anyway.

Get your infamy right down, giving your merchants a better compete chance. Stop colonising/missionaries, spend less money on your military upkeep and focus on 1, getting your inflation down and 2, pumping everything you can into 1 or 2 (depending on how behind you are) priority techs.

That said, if you want to take a longer term view, you could do things like building manufactories/universities, shifting your sliders (if you need to keep narrowminded, you could move other sliders to compensate for some tech), take a few income increasing national ideas, or good old expansionism -capturing (and coring) rich provinces or COTs. If you are England, why not try to open up trade with the East? Getting friendly with whover own the main Chinese COTs and opening their markets will help you alot (assuming you are moving towards freemarket on the slider),a nd may give you an edge over European competition.

decimator22

07-19-2010, 15:18

I'm actually Spain. With peace I make more or less 500-600 each year. Thanks for the tips. I'll try them and see if I can get the Ming to open their CoT and I'll also concentrate on spending money on naval techs.

al Roumi

07-23-2010, 12:41

naut

07-23-2010, 13:00

I'm reading great book on the history of the mediterranean "The Middle Sea" by John Julius Norwich which has inspired me to start a new EU3HTTT game. I'm thinking of playing either Byzantium or Venice... any advice or suggestions from Orgahs?
Byzantium is a struggle. Play the Jan 1405 start, Timur is dead, and the Ottomans are facing revolts. Blockade the straits and retake the Greek Balkans. Trade. Etc.

seireikhaan

07-23-2010, 13:05

Venice is definitely an easier play than Byzantium. Personally, I'd say if you want to give the Byzantines a shot, the easiest way is to cheaty-face it. Start as the Timurids in 1399, who start at war with the Ottomans. Focus all military might on 1) impeding the Ottomans from vassalizing small neighbors, and then 2) Beating them up as badly as possible. When they've been beaten up, save, load up the game as the Byzantines, and go for it. I've tried playing a legit Byzantium, and... its very, very difficult.

naut

07-23-2010, 19:27

Much inflation, interest and war exhaustion later:

https://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5672/eu3mapbyzall.jpg

https://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3276/eu3mapbyzvassal.jpg

Managed to blockade the straits and play cat and mouse with a Ottoman stack and a Rebel stack till I had captured all the Ottoman's European holdings. Wallachia took Bulgaria. Sued for peace. Georgia meanwhile dominated Candar (sic?). Then a series of defensive wars to protect my allies, namely Epirus, taking Albania, Naxos and Janina (sic?) from Venice. Hungary got distracted with Balkan wars, so I took Bulgaria who had managed to revolt from Wallachian rule. Royal marriages paid off and Moldavia is in a personal Union with me. Ottomans declared war on me. Annexed the last Candar province. Can't expand into my Greek holdings as Castille is the Catholic defender. I managed to fend them off once while fighting Venice, but that's too insane for my tastes. I love the national decision to raise 15,000 men for -8 war exhaustion and +1 Decentralisation and +2 Aristocracy, really saved me from a lot of hassle.

Martok

07-23-2010, 23:32

pevergreen

07-24-2010, 02:21

1399, start as Castille/France or England. They tend to be the easiest.

Monk

07-24-2010, 05:19

All right. So taking advantage of the Paradox sale that's going on this week, I finally decided to get EU3. I picked it up off Amazon last night (I gotta have my boxed copy!). While I'm waiting for it to get here, though, I figured I might as well ask a few questions:

1.) Bearing in mind that I've never really played any Paradox games before, which nation would you guys recommend I start out with, and/or which starting date? (Sorry, I know I've asked this one before, but I can't remember what was recommended.)

Any input in this regard would be welcome!

Step 1 is to read all instructions and play through the tutorials, even though the expansions changed a lot (i assume you bought EU3 Complete) it still gives a very basic understanding of the game. Secondly, try your first few games with inflation off. I know its kinda gamey but trust me, having inflation off makes learning the basics a lot easier. Second, as pever said, try one of the major powers of the time like England or Castile. They are very newbie friendly.

2.) Are there any particularly obvious things I should be doing in the early game (that aren't necessarily spelled out in the manual and tutorials)? Likewise, are there any obvious "noob" mistakes I should avoid?

Yes. Take it slow. You've got 400 years from the 1399 date to accomplish what you want to. The biggest mistakes I made were blobbing up too quickly and getting a seriously bad reputation, which caused a lot of headaches from BadBoy wars. Also on the same note don't let yourself get discouraged. Losing a war might have a ton of short term consequences and may even block off long term routes - but there is still plenty of time to bounce back.

3.) I'm going to get the HTTT expansion as well; however, I'm curious about the merits of ordering it from GamersGate as compared to Impulse. I'm admittedly something of a Stardock fanboy, so my natural impulse (no pun intended) is to purchase it from the latter, but I've heard that the former tends to be faster/better about making patches available.

If you're more comfortable with Impulse then by all means. It won't matter since if you sign up on the Paradox forums and enter your registration info (cd key typically) you'll get access to the EU3 tech support forums, which contain the beta patches you won't be able to get any other way. Paradox doesn't release official patches very often, but they release beta patches quite frequently.

pevergreen

07-24-2010, 16:28

I will echo Monk's second statement. I've finally learnt that its ok to do long term goals. Its actually an inbuilt problem I have, I have patience, but when I want to achieve something, it better be done soon. I had finally gotten myself ok with taking out x country over the next hundred years, then I started playing multiplayer with those (see many posts ago) guys, who wanted to play at half infamy/no inflation/very easy.

We put the beta patch on and now we keep disconnecting, so I havent played for a while.

Ja'chyra

07-24-2010, 16:39

I would disagree about starting with no inflation, you'll end up with 2 learning curves.

Also, expect to resign and restart the whole game at least 5 times before you pick up the intricacies.

Castille is a good choice for a first game but before you unpause guarantee Navarra, you might also want to restart until you get good advisors but that might be cheating :oops:.

pevergreen

07-24-2010, 16:47

Luck Manipulation isn't considered cheating (SDA standard)

Xiahou

07-24-2010, 17:15

When I started playing, I picked a nation that interested me and dove right in. I just kept the EU3 Wiki site handy for when I didn't know what something was or how to do something. I was wiped out in my first attempt, but by my second try I had a good enough grasp of the basics to be able to flourish.

naut

07-25-2010, 09:29

I will echo Monk's second statement. I've finally learnt that its ok to do long term goals. Its actually an inbuilt problem I have, I have patience, but when I want to achieve something, it better be done soon.
Same. This becomes even stronger in me when there are cores in neighbours that run out by a certain date. Then I'm driven to take them, no matter the consequences.

When I started playing, I picked a nation that interested me and dove right in. I just kept the EU3 Wiki site handy for when I didn't know what something was or how to do something. I was wiped out in my first attempt, but by my second try I had a good enough grasp of the basics to be able to flourish.
:thumbsup:

Monk

07-26-2010, 00:58

I played around with some Horde nations and was really surprised in how different they are from the settlers. It's such a different game, purely focused on conquest and looting as well as their successian crises that pop up each time your leader dies. Of course I knew all that, what I didn't know is that each time you win a seige in hostile territory you actually lose war exhaustion and gain prestige and legitimacy. So in a sense, the more you loot and plunder the more war you can conduct. Just dont take too many non-cores! :laugh4:

Here's the result of my experiments. The mighty Timur reaches the Aegean Sea!
https://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x301/swcsalha/EU3_6.jpg

miotas

08-01-2010, 15:04

https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/eu3/EU3_MAP_SPA_168711_1.jpg
From my recent game as France. It's 1687, it may not seem impressive compared to most eu3 games, but I playing Magna Mundi and it's really hard. I expanded too quickly early on and had plenty of unrest, but I finally managed to get that somewhat under control when my colonial options opened up, I changed a national idea and I inherited Holland, at which point my administration was overwhelmed and my country fell into full on civil war. I released the Dutch as the Netherlands to focus on my French provinces and 80 years later I've only just recently crushed the last rebels and paid off all my debts, now I'm focusing on trying to get down my awful inflation.

https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/eu3/EU3_MAP_FRA_168792_1.jpg
The most interesting thing that's happened though is Spain inheriting Portugal. The funny thing is that the former Portuguese empire was probably more powerful than the current Spanish empire. It will be interesting to see if they can hold the new empire together, considering they were having trouble holding the previous empire together.

Monk

08-08-2010, 02:24

Playing nations outside of western culture isn't something I do a lot so i picked the Ottomans for a first go. I read online that this was a very militaristic game choice and I could expect top be fighting expansionist wars from start to finish, whoever wrote that was dead on as it's been a hectic bid for survival. It's so odd playing a game constantly hovering on 0 or +1 stability, but that's what I was in for, which isnt even mentioning the westernization and military reforms I would need.

Before I started I decided on a few ground rules: Infamy can never at any point reach 0. Historically the Ottomans expanded at an incredible speed in the 1500s and i wanted to try to keep pace. There was no way I could, but i wanted to try.

Secondly, Inflation can at no point pass 5%. While inflation isn't really a problem until you hit 10%, i wanted to make this game my first game where I totally controlled it from the start. An economy that passed 5 or 6% inflation before 1500 would mean failure, right now I sit as the only "great power" with absolutely no measure of inflation. Overall I think i did pretty well. ~D

The world of 1554

https://img695.imageshack.us/img695/122/otto1m.jpg

https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/671/otto2m.jpg

Westernization is done, Military has been reformed and I'm nigh unstoppable.

The western powers have been desperate to curve my expansion. First it was Castile in North Africa who were not at all happy to see me meddling in what they considered their sphere. The Castilian navy proved a formidable foe, but unfortunately their army was not in the same league as mine. Then, England tried their hand at curving my expansionist (some say, powermongering) ways when I invaded Malta. They are the few who have had success, and managed to contain me rather well. But unfortunately for the west their strength failed at the most crucial time, the Italian Wars, The French lead coalition of the Italian states against me.

The first war for Italy saw Naples fall, southern Italy switch hands to me but not much more than that. Fighting reached a bloody stalemate on Sicily and around Genoa so both sides agreed to call a cease fire. Around ten years later, France threw my merchants out of their Centers of Trade - It made me angry, so Monk smash! In the ensuing fighting central Italy, along with Rome, fell and France's King was soundly crushed in Nice.

Elsewhere in the world - The Golden Horde have collapsed due to a civil war but not before decimating the Russian states. Sweden stepped in and established rule over the broken states but is struggling under crushing inflation and massive revolts.

Poland-Lithuana fell apart, replaced by the four states of Ukraine, Mazovia, Prussia and Potolsk, all of which are very poor and struggle with each other for dominance. I've had my eye on it for some time, keen to smack down whoever rises from their wars. Prussia i fear won't last long, inflation is on the rise and they rely entirely on foreign mercenaries for their standing army.

Saxony (yes, the one province minor Saxony!), at one point, took over almost all of Eastern Europe but fractured and fell apartt. Despite that, they are still a decent power in the region alongside Bohemia and Austria - the latter of which have been fighting each other off and on for decades. It was that preoccupation that allowed France to begin building a base of power in Italy, only to have me come and completely push them out again.

And believe it or not? All of this is Lucky Nations - historical. It's been a crazy ride!

Alexander the Pretty Good

08-23-2010, 16:55

I've been playing an HTTT England game (1399 start, all values default because I keep forgetting to turn lucky nations off). I was mostly interested in improving my land combat game, inspired by one of the tutorial AARs featuring England. You get tons of great missions at the start which helps, too. It took about 60 years of hard fighting to beat down France and Burgundy. Several times I was on the verge of beating one of them and the other would attack, and I'd need to white peace with the first, or at least just get them to revoke cores on my land. Try as I might I could never get the "Occupy Paris" mission in a war that I could actually achieve that; by the time I could do that without Burgundy intervening I think the mission wouldn't fire anymore. So I just took Paris because I have a core on it. :P Then I formed Great Britain.

Managed to break up France enough that the various component parts had been fighting with each other off and on, with me only sometimes intervening. I was going to start thinking about colonies (which I find pretty tedious, to be honest) and then out of the blue I inherited the Netherlands (don't remember when exactly, it was around the time I got the Counter reformation - yeah, I stayed Catholic). That made things pretty easy, since they owned most of what they have default cores for. It also lead to me being the HRE for a good while, managed to institute the reform that says no fighting among HRE members (and it kills your mil tradition!). Fought a war with Bavaria over something and liberated them, managed to vassalize the Pope, which came in handy.

I was also way ahead of my neighbors in military research so wars were a cakewalk. Stay on the defense until I had mashed up their armies then roll over their provinces. I took most lvl1 forts in less than a week. But I think I have the most artillery in the world, so maybe that's it. Artillery is wonderful, even in battle.

Anyway, during this time Portugal has colonized most of North America (I managed to grab most of the Caribbean, South Africa, and New Jersey :D). They've also moved their capital to one of the northern seaboard provinces (abnaki??) and they're starting to kick Castille around on the mainland. I figure I'm up next for a war with them (especially since they've hated my guts since I liberated several provinces from Aragon as the HRE and they joined to defend Aragon). Two colonial wars later (the second far more successful than the first) and I've got Lisboa from them (I now have 5 CoTs, 4 of them coastal), I've liberated a few of the native nations from them, and Gibraltar is making a play at the Spanish homeland.

The only other thing of note is that Austria is a monster and Scandinavia formed. The latter is a paper tiger; they have like 40% inflation. The former though has territory that stretches from a border with my Netherlands (yikes!) to Persia. Their standing army is 4x time and their manpower reserves are 3x. I've spied them into -3 stability and they didn't lose a single province to rebellion because they have troops everywhere. And somehow they're the only other nation on Earth that's kept up with my military research, which is normally 5 levels or more ahead of everyone else who matters. It's 1663 and they're the only threat to me. I don't really want to deal with them. :P

The world in 1663:
https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/th_image001.png (http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/?action=view&current=image001.png)

Great Britain, allies and vassals on the European mainland:
https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/th_resized003.png (http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/?action=view&current=resized003.png)

Portuguese North America (note plucky British and native thorns in the Portuguese side):
https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/th_resized004.png (http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/?action=view&current=resized004.png)

The Caribbean:
https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/th_resized005.png (http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/?action=view&current=resized005.png)

South Africa:
https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/th_resized006.png (http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/?action=view&current=resized006.png)

Our East Indies base of operations (had a mission for it plus I could form the East India Company which is quite the nifty decision):
https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/th_resized002.png (http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj294/hellbender38/EU3/?action=view&current=resized002.png)

Ibn-Khaldun

09-02-2010, 15:15

Monk

09-02-2010, 15:49

I just bought EU3: Complete. It's one of the games I always wanted but never had the time or extra money to buy it. Anyway, when I opened the new game screen I was overwhelmed by the choices. In demo I was able to play only western nations(and if you mod a bit then the others as well) but now all nations were available and I just couldn't choose which one to pick!
So, any suggestions when to start and what country should I pick first?

Castile 1399, it's a very easy game with lots of options for you to spread your wings. Grenada serves as a nice target as well. Be careful in your African invasions however, it isn't hard to botch the landings against Morroco.

Alexander the Pretty Good

09-02-2010, 16:18

Castile 1399, it's a very easy game with lots of options for you to spread your legs. Grenada serves as a nice target as well. Be careful in your African invasions however, it isn't hard to botch the landings against Morroco.
That may be true, but if you own Castile + Granada, you'll also have the manpower to botch two or three landings before your people start getting really upset. :P

Beskar

09-03-2010, 01:00

England is very good, simply because no one can hit you since you have the biggest navy at the start. You will however, might have to forfeit your lands on Mainland Europe, but no one can cross to the isles, which allows you to easily bring in Scotland and Ireland under your wing.

Ibn-Khaldun

09-04-2010, 19:17

I started 2 campaigns: Castille and Byzantine Empire.
As Castille I managed to expand a bit in North Africa and currently having quite enjoyable game.
However, as Byzantine Empire I'm about to fall. I managed to annex Achaea but because they were allied with Sicily, Aquileia and Genoa I faced constant naval invasions. In the end I managed to get a white peace but just as this war ended another one started. My ally Bosnia was attacked by Hungary and I was dragged into that war. So, currently I have no navy(Sicily destroyed it), war weariness is quite high and I can't get my armies to the front because Ottomans don't give me permission to go through their land. I also can't get out of that war with white peace.

Motep

09-05-2010, 17:30

I reccomend the burgundians. trial by fire, more or less.

Edit: Yay torrent

naut

09-13-2010, 18:47

Ok. Sweden is impossible in MM. Seriously, who made it that hard? Just as the war was turning in my favour I went bankrupt and got hit by massive revolts. Didn't help that Oslo withstood 1300+ days of siege!!!

Vladimir

09-14-2010, 00:02

Are you using it with HTTT? The out-of-box version seems rather bland.

naut

09-14-2010, 08:58

Are you using it with HTTT? The out-of-box version seems rather bland.
Yep. Magna Mundi just makes it ridiculous. From Laplanders revolting to Finns revolting to starting at war with both Denmark and Norway. Ugh.

Motep

09-26-2010, 04:42

I have query....my version of HTTT keeps killing my income, and killing my naval focelimits. And I honestly dont get it. Any ideas?

Ibn-Khaldun

09-26-2010, 11:10

Have you checked the national/provincial modifiers?

Alexander the Pretty Good

09-26-2010, 17:29

What nation are you?

miotas

09-28-2010, 07:31

I have query....my version of HTTT keeps killing my income, and killing my naval focelimits. And I honestly dont get it. Any ideas?

The thing eating up you naval forcelimits, and possibly your income as well, is most likely coastal pirate defences, which you can enact or disable in the national decisions. If you are a trading sea empire like portugal or england, then they are a good thing, the hit to your taxes will be less than what you would lose through piracy and the naval forcelimits can be recovered by building anchorages and taking the grand navy NI. If you are playing as a land empire like france or ming on the other hand, then just ditch the national defences by going to the national decisions, and just implement extensive defences on the provincial level.

Motep

09-29-2010, 01:49

Income = ?
navy = rebels at capital

LeftEyeNine

02-27-2011, 21:14

Monk

02-27-2011, 21:33

Um, sorry to resurrect this but I got a problem.

I got EU III Complete via Impulse yesterday, installed a couple of minutes ago however have fallen in doubt since it says v1.3 for the version of game.

The Complete Edition is supposed to include Napoleon's Ambition and In Nomine on top of EU III and the wikipedia article on EUIII (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Universalis_III) says that those expansions are in v2.2 and v3.2 respectively.

How can I make sure that I got a complete edition or not please ?

EUIII's menu will always display the highest installed expansion pack, i believe the highest "Complete" gets you is In Nomine. That should be displayed somewhere on your main menu after you've entered the game. You can also double-check your version of the game by looking at the bottom left-hand of the screen, once you've entered the game.

LeftEyeNine

02-27-2011, 21:35

It says 1.3 at the bottom left.

I've been cheated by Impulse ? :inquisitive:

Monk

02-27-2011, 21:39

It says 1.3 at the bottom left.

I've been cheated by Impulse ? :inquisitive:

I highly doubt their intention was to cheat you, the Impulse page for EUIII - Complete clearly shows all three games included with the bundle. If you purchased complete but were only credited with the base game, you should raise your concerns with Impulse.

edit: said expansions when i meant games. EUIII has so many iterations it gets confusing x_x

LeftEyeNine

02-27-2011, 23:41

Thanks, Monk. I'll see to this tomorrow.

Beskar

02-28-2011, 14:15

EU3 Complete is the base game with In Nomine and some other one.

It doesn't include Heir to the Throne or Divine Wind.

I believe the picture is some guy on a horse with a flag? It has been a while since I played the base game.

LeftEyeNine

02-28-2011, 18:37

They have completed the missing expansions today by themselves. :happy:

Monk

02-28-2011, 22:09

They have completed the missing expansions today by themselves. :happy:

Glad to hear that LEN. :thumbsup:

Furunculus

03-10-2011, 15:12

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/europa-universalis-iii-chronicles

Greyblades

03-11-2011, 15:44

You know I realy wish they would just make one game to cover all of history.

Beskar

03-14-2011, 05:13

You know I realy wish they would just make one game to cover all of history.

History is never the same, it is constantly changing.

Monk

03-14-2011, 06:02

You know I realy wish they would just make one game to cover all of history.

EUIII is as close as they are to that and, surprisingly, they've continued to support it even after all these years. If they keep releasing expansions for EUIII, i will take that in the place of a single all encompassing game.

Or better yet: EU4. But with how many improvements EUIII has received, i dunno if an EU4 will be forthcoming anytime soon. :laugh4:

tibilicus

04-12-2011, 01:05

Got this game back in the steam Christmas sale but only recently decided to play it. So far I'm enjoying it but I have a couple of rookie questions.

First order of business, I started an Austria game, conquered a fair few smaller German states, my prestige was rising, I could field big armies and then, before you know it, my prestige was declining rapidly and uncontrollably. I don't quite understand the interface so can't see why. I was noted as being "very untrsutworthy" and had few allies but still, could this purely account for such decline?

Secondly, I've started a game as Brandenburg, any advice? I'm playing HTTT and was wondering what I can do up until the point I can ditch the pointless union with Luxembourg.

Finally, trade agreements. I tend to sign a lot thinking them akin the civ type trade agreements. Apparently they're bad however? Anyone want to break down why in simple terms?

Monk

04-12-2011, 01:28

Finally, trade agreements. I tend to sign a lot thinking them akin the civ type trade agreements. Apparently they're bad however? Anyone want to break down why in simple terms?

They reduce competition between your merchants lowering your overall efficiency, which, i think, means less money made from trade?

First order of business, I started an Austria game, conquered a fair few smaller German states, my prestige was rising, I could field big armies and then, before you know it, my prestige was declining rapidly and uncontrollably. I don't quite understand the interface so can't see why. I was noted as being "very untrsutworthy" and had few allies but still, could this purely account for such decline?

A lot of factors can kill your prestige Check your badboy rating, in HTTT that's infamy. There's also a base-line decay that will eat away at your prestige even if you're rolling strong. Mouse over your prestige count in the upper left to see the various factors at work.

Secondly, I've started a game as Brandenburg, any advice? I'm playing HTTT and was wondering what I can do up until the point I can ditch the pointless union with Luxembourg.

This is going to sound cheap but: Start the game after the union ended in real life. Which was somewhere around 1410 iirc. You can literally do nothing except, maybe, get lucky here and there and build your power. The game is dreadfullu dull when you're stuck in that union, worse yet, the union might continue for decades.

I once cranked up the speed and just let the game run. I ended up stuck in the union until 1430... :no:

tibilicus

04-12-2011, 14:10

For prestige it says something like my two advisers give me +0.5% prestige, I get a little for being part of the HRE and some for some cardinals. I have a base decay of +5% which is obviously killing it. I just can't work out how to gain more prestige. I really don't want to abandon another game because my prestige level becomes ridiculous.

Is there also a way to lower infamy? Currently my level is ok but it seems there's no way to actually expand properly because even with a casus belli I still acquire infamy.

Greyblades

04-12-2011, 16:53

You can gain prestiege by winning wars and doing missions, try to make sure your wars dont end up with you taking loads and loads of land or you'll end up with an even worse problem of having a high infamy.
As for infamy you either have to wait it out or release nations as vassals.

Alexander the Pretty Good

04-13-2011, 02:41

They reduce competition between your merchants lowering your overall efficiency, which, i think, means less money made from trade?
Correct. Also, if a CoT is full of people you have trade deals with, you can't kick them out and trade there. Ditto for trade leagues - you don't compete within them (which to me is kind of dumb).

This is going to sound cheap but: Start the game after the union ended in real life. Which was somewhere around 1410 iirc. You can literally do nothing except, maybe, get lucky here and there and build your power. The game is dreadfullu dull when you're stuck in that union, worse yet, the union might continue for decades.

I once cranked up the speed and just let the game run. I ended up stuck in the union until 1430... :no:
Got a Brandenburg game where I just broke the union (I think the 1410's). Still a pretty uncomfortable position.

tibilicus

04-15-2011, 10:29

Skullheadhq

04-15-2011, 15:54

Ibn-Khaldun

04-15-2011, 16:18

I'm quite disappointed in Divine Wind. I bought it thinking it has the same system requirements that EU3. However, it seems I need newer videocard to play it. Gah.. There goes my 10 euros.. ~:( Back to HttT then..

Monk

04-15-2011, 20:54

Well as Brandenburg I've managed to become the economic powerhouse of Europe, expand my Borders and cripple France into a third rate power. I have a couple oh questions in regards to converting religion however. The main reason for converting to Protestantism would be to form Prussia but I'm also excommunicated which is a massive pain. More importantly however, how can I deal with the -5 stability drop? For some reason if stability dropped in the early game, I would regain the lost level within a year or two, now it takes about 10 years. Is there any reason for this? I can't even seem to invest money from the budget into stability.

I can't really convert until I work out how to handle the stability. Especially with opportunistic Catholics like Bohemia and Burgundy on my doorstep..

Create a +stability advisor with your cultural power. Anything level 3 and above will provide a good boost to your stability research. In order to put things into stability you have to take away from something else, as I'm sure you've noticed. It's also impossible to invest in stability if you're capped at 3.

And there's no way to "handle" the huge stability hit other than slogging your way through it. Converting your nation is gonna be a rough ride if you go down that route. and isnt a decision to be taken lightly. :yes:

I'm quite disappointed in Divine Wind. I bought it thinking it has the same system requirements that EU3. However, it seems I need newer videocard to play it. Gah.. There goes my 10 euros.. Back to HttT then.

There were many graphical upgrades to DW, most notably the Vicky2 style map.

Ibn-Khaldun

04-15-2011, 21:03

There were many graphical upgrades to DW, most notably the Vicky2 style map.

I know that. However, since I can run HOI3 without problems I thought I can do the same with Divine Wind as well.

Monk

04-15-2011, 21:06

I know that. However, since I can run HOI3 without problems I thought I can do the same with Divine Wind as well.

Yes I was really surprised by how much more DW required of my system, compared to HTTT. :confused: I could run Vicky2 fine but then EUIII felt a little sluggish. I haven't played since my Hindustan unification game, so i'm unsure if they've done further patches for that.

Zim

04-16-2011, 14:26

Ran into an odd bug playing. I started a game as Tachibana to unify Japan. I was doing pretty well, even became Shogun, then "Japan" (the emperor in Kyoto) is inherited by Korea. Suddenly all the Daimyo factions revert to regular factions and the unique Shogun interface is gone. I even managed to get "Japan" released again but it didn't fix things. I think I may have a save from before it happened, although I hate to revert to older saves for anything but crashes.

And on that subject DW seems to have trouble exiting to windows for me when I finish. I've had to use the task manager to close the program.

vnnv

05-07-2011, 17:37

I've been playing DW recently and I have a question: My country(Vietnam) just diplo-annexed my Ayutthaya vassal. However, nearly all buildings in their provinces - constables and armories - except the fort, disappeared. Does anyone know if it's a bug or just normal?

Who am i?

05-08-2011, 08:44

Alexander the Pretty Good

05-08-2011, 13:36

It's working as intended but it's still ridiculously stupid.

Crazed Rabbit

05-08-2011, 16:57

Wait, so you have to entirely rebuild all provinces annexed? That's no fun.

CR

vnnv

05-08-2011, 20:55

Thanks fro the reply, I've just tested with France and it's indeed normal. So.. do you guys modify the save game or keep playing like that?

Beskar

05-09-2011, 02:09

It doesn't happen if you have a core on the province.

However, there was a mod a while back which made it affect the AI only.

Snowhobbit

05-09-2011, 09:15

Given how insanely powerful the top level buildings are, it seems quite reasonable.

And why would you want to disable it for the player only? If anything it's the AI who is hurt most by it. :D

Beskar

05-10-2011, 01:02

Given how insanely powerful the top level buildings are, it seems quite reasonable.

And why would you want to disable it for the player only? If anything it's the AI who is hurt most by it. :D

It completely breaks the game if they are not destroyed and the economy goes into melt-down. If anything, the game is balanced with it being destroyed.

Since it is a person having a pet peev about having to rebuild, it would unbalance it in their favour more, but it wouldn't destory the game.

tibilicus

06-13-2011, 15:33

Skullheadhq

06-13-2011, 16:05

Beskar

06-13-2011, 19:29

Did you type in the right IP address?

tibilicus

06-13-2011, 19:32

By ip adress I'm assuming it meant the hosts IP address which we both tried to no avail. The message game not found simply kept popping up.

Skullheadhq

06-13-2011, 19:53

By ip adress I'm assuming it meant the hosts IP address which we both tried to no avail. The message game not found simply kept popping up.

The hamachi ip? The one that starts with a 5?

a completely inoffensive name

06-26-2011, 11:47

Just got EUIII Chronicles on a sale. Been playing it a bit and I think I got the hang of it somewhat. It really isn't that complex and the tutorials actually helped a lot. The only thing I was having a problem with was constructing buildings. I couldn't make any buildings for 20 years (playing as portugal) and then when I finally asked Subotan, he told me that since the grand campaign starts in the mid 1300s, stuff is still pretty backwards for a while. Then I saw that indeed, I needed tech level 4 for my basic buildings and it wouldn't be until the mid 1400s that I could reach that. SO I guess I will just start a new campaign as Castille and spend my time pushing the islamic states from the Iberian Peninsula.

Centurion1

06-26-2011, 18:39

yeah its got a steep learning curve but then it gets really easy. my favorite factions are munster, byzantines, teutonic knights, and the one port nation on the baltic.

Beskar

06-26-2011, 23:19

yeah its got a steep learning curve but then it gets really easy. my favorite factions are munster, byzantines, teutonic knights, and the one port nation on the baltic.

I will tell Latvia you said that about them! (Riga in-game)

Skullheadhq

06-27-2011, 11:14

Maybe we could do a .Org EU3 multiplayer game once.

The Wizard

06-28-2011, 11:47

Has anyone ever tried MP? Me and a friend have been trying to play recently with no luck. We've registered our games, are using the same version of the steam version of the game and still nothing. Apparently you can't use to metaserver if you don't have the latest EU3 (DW) but we can't even connect via IP address. All ports are open firewalls disabled ect ect so has anyone got any idea why it still wont work and the game is constantly "not found"?

Make sure you both have the same checksum (visible in the lower left corner of the main menu). It differs depending on what version you're running; if you don't know, ask on the official Paradox forums in the EU3 tech help forum. For the latest DW beta patch (21/6) it seems to be FSCV.

Other than that it could be a problem with router ports. Can't help you on that but I do know it's been a problem when playing MP before, for me.

Just got EUIII Chronicles on a sale. Been playing it a bit and I think I got the hang of it somewhat. It really isn't that complex and the tutorials actually helped a lot. The only thing I was having a problem with was constructing buildings. I couldn't make any buildings for 20 years (playing as portugal) and then when I finally asked Subotan, he told me that since the grand campaign starts in the mid 1300s, stuff is still pretty backwards for a while. Then I saw that indeed, I needed tech level 4 for my basic buildings and it wouldn't be until the mid 1400s that I could reach that. SO I guess I will just start a new campaign as Castille and spend my time pushing the islamic states from the Iberian Peninsula.

Make sure you concentrate all your tech investments in one area at a time (so don't spread out your sliders over all tech areas). If you don't you'll fall behind rapidly. Capturing large shares of trade (send merchants to COTs) is a great way to quickly ratchet up your investments.

a completely inoffensive name

06-29-2011, 00:18

I have been playing on easy with normal inflation. I got rid of grenada and have converted the population to christianity. Got to gov tech level 4. And my stability is rocking at 3 right now. Idk what else to do though. Every time I declare war on morroco or aragon my stability drops down to 1.

Rhyfelwyr

06-29-2011, 01:50

Make sure you concentrate all your tech investments in one area at a time (so don't spread out your sliders over all tech areas). If you don't you'll fall behind rapidly.

So this is why I am always a couple of levels below everyone else of the same tech group?

As for Castile, I found a good way to go is to consolidate the Iberian peninsula, then just colonise the entire New World. Then use your huge base of funds/manpower from there to take Europe.

The Wizard

06-30-2011, 11:10

Rhyfylwr: Yes. Try expanding your hold on all major COTs, and then concentrating your increased investments in one area at a time. Once you finish researching that level, go on to your next priority. So, for example, you want Government Tech level 4 in the beginning of the game? Put all investment on that till you reach it, then switch over to, for example, Land Tech level 4.

As an aside, colonies on other continents don't really give you a lot of manpower (MP), because of the "Distant Overseas" modifier (-50% MP). And make sure you have enough big ships and light ships (carracks and barques in 1399), because you need to have an equal amount of both combined for 100% tariffs, which is a simulation of the problem of smuggling.

I have been playing on easy with normal inflation. I got rid of grenada and have converted the population to christianity. Got to gov tech level 4. And my stability is rocking at 3 right now. Idk what else to do though. Every time I declare war on morroco or aragon my stability drops down to 1.

That's because you lack a casus belli (CB). Starting a war without one leads to a War of Aggression, which costs you two stab, two points of war exhaustion (WE), and some badboy (BB; called infamy ingame), too. Bad idea.

Remember that the larger your empire grows, the more a level of stab will cost (because more provinces means more investment -- this goes for all tech investments: this is why you will always see one province minors with the most advanced tech). For large empires, starting wars of aggression is really out of the question due to the drop in stab, which will heighten revolt risk (RR), lessen your tax income, give you less merchants/diplomats/spies etc, and just make the game harder. Meanwhile it's much harder to regain stab for a large empire.

So, get a CB before you attack anyone. Shouldn't be too hard. Warn Aragon, guarantee something you expect Aragon to attack in the near future, send Aragon an insult so it might attack you, embargo it for the same reason, or fabricate a claim through your spies. Try getting a royal marriage (RM) with Aragon and claiming their throne, to force a personal union (PU).

As for Morocco, become papal controller and declare a crusade on it, and you will get the Holy War CB. The same happens if you manage to become Defender of the Faith (costs you 500 ducats and you need the highest prestige among Catholics, however, plus the position must be vacant). The strategies I named for Aragon also work for Morocco, of course (except claiming the throne because you can't arrange an RM with Muslims). And finally, you sometimes just get a mission granting you a CB on Morocco (or Aragon).

For a list of possible CBs and what you need to get them, see here (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?448575-Heir-to-the-Throne-Casus-Belli-Guide) and here (http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Casus_belli).

miotas

07-01-2011, 12:03

Centurion1

07-01-2011, 23:47

if you want to be way way ahead of everyone else in europe play as holland. Formt he netherlands and you will often be 30 years of tech ahead.

The problem is you are surrounded by the big blue beast that is france. Also france and austria are annoyingly powerful as to make the game very frustrating, especially france.

Alexander the Pretty Good

07-02-2011, 04:10

Burgundy will probably kill you first, unless you get lucky and France murders them.

In which case you have to fight superfrance.

Centurion1

07-03-2011, 03:13

nope burgundy goes down very very quickly right away if you are holland. the only hard part is finding a way to split from the weaker half of your dependency (i think luxembourg) And monster franc is often willing to ally with you. then you just build up over seas till you can take them.

also you will literally be rolling in gold.

The Wizard

07-03-2011, 12:44

Having the tech sliders spread out wont cause you to fall behind. The only time I ever put all my research into one tech is when the next NI is close and I want it quickly, or when I want to get to the next level of troops or ships before starting a war.

What will cause you to fall behind is having a large number of poor provinces, early colonies are a particular offender. Colonial powers prior to about 1650 or so, when the colonies start to make some good cash, will often be behind in tech. The highest tech countries usually have just a few, rich provinces.

To be honest, on the subject of tech, that's not my experience. If you want a distinct tech advantage you will certainly have to put all your investments in one tech area at a time. As for the colonies, in my current Holland -> Netherlands game (now in 1618), I own a large colonial empire with many wrong culture, wrong religion provinces (the reason they don't produce that much income), but I'm tech leader, only slightly behind one-province minors (OPMs) with lots of trade. It really is a case of proper investment and boosting it through trade. And, of course, if you have colonies, making sure you max out your tariffs as much as possible.

if you want to be way way ahead of everyone else in europe play as holland. Formt he netherlands and you will often be 30 years of tech ahead.

The problem is you are surrounded by the big blue beast that is france. Also france and austria are annoyingly powerful as to make the game very frustrating, especially france.

Only if you trade a lot, and put 5 merchants in all the biggest COTs and keep them there. Your small size will do the rest. Trading really is the only option for small countries to get some kind of an advantage.

If you are really frustrated by Le Blob and the Great White Blob, you can turn off Lucky Nations when you start a new game (under options, select "none" under the header "Lucky Nations"). This will take away several advantages a lucky AI nation has, such as incredible leaders and monarchs, good dicerolls in battle, few rebellions even under maxed out WE and RR, etc. When Lucky Nations is set to "historical," a set amount of nations will have the Lucky modifier, namely France, Austria, England, Sweden (I think), Portugal, Castile, etc.

If not, just ally with one of them. That's what I did in my current Netherlands game. To get France off my back, I just allied them. They're also handy in wars with Austria :laugh4:

tibilicus

07-03-2011, 13:28

miotas

07-03-2011, 14:57

Saw something odd in my current Austria game. The reformation has hit and I want to convert my reformed and protestant provinces back to Catholic. The problem is my missionaries have a -11% chance of converting. Why is this and how do i rectify it? by -% I'm assuming I have a less than 0 chance of converting which isn't useful..

After a province converts you will see a province modifier that gives something like -25% convert chance. It's called religious tensions or something and it lasts a decade or so. You get the same modifier if you have one of those annoying events that gives +400 colony size in exchange for the colony converting. Sending a priest with that modifier in effect is a huge waste, you just need to wait until things settle down a bit.

Taking the religious national ideas "Church Attendance Duty" "Divine Supremacy" and "Unam Sanctum" will slow the spread of the reformation, unless you embrace it in which case "Church Attendance Duty" and "Unam Sanctum" will speed up the reformation.

tibilicus

07-08-2011, 19:20

Really been enjoying HTTT so I just want to know from the people here, is Divine Wind worth buying? What does it add to the game and is it a general improvement on HTTT?

Monk

07-08-2011, 21:36

Really been enjoying HTTT so I just want to know from the people here, is Divine Wind worth buying? What does it add to the game and is it a general improvement on HTTT?

I think so, yes. Especially if you ever want to play a non-European faction as it completely changes the dynamic of the eastern games. Japan now has to deal with unification via the Shogun, China must deal with internal factions vying for the throne, and the horde factions are completely revamped. The Timurids/Golden Horde are now automatically at war with all their neighbors - peace is achieved by paying the hordes yearly tribute, otherwise they will just as soon as attack you as anyone else.

Skullheadhq

07-09-2011, 13:14

Really been enjoying HTTT so I just want to know from the people here, is Divine Wind worth buying? What does it add to the game and is it a general improvement on HTTT?

I'd suggest waiting for 5.1. The horde system is broken. I regulary see the Golden Horde in Croatia.

tibilicus

07-09-2011, 18:23

I'd suggest waiting for 5.1. The horde system is broken. I regulary see the Golden Horde in Croatia.

Any news on when such a patch is due? It's just with the Steam sale I can get 33% off which is nice so if it's soon I'm more than happy to buy it and wait to play it once it's patched.

miotas

07-09-2011, 23:38

I heard that the latest beta patch fixed hordes, but I haven't played it yet so I'm not sure.

Monk

07-10-2011, 02:41

I heard that the latest beta patch fixed hordes, but I haven't played it yet so I'm not sure.

The Hordes are having a hard time in my 5.1 game as Austria. Been playing on and off for 6 weeks whenever I have some time and felt like it. GH got rocked by Muscovy - coincidently.. so did the Ottomans. :dizzy:

Skullheadhq

07-14-2011, 13:49

The Hordes are having a hard time in my 5.1 game as Austria. Been playing on and off for 6 weeks whenever I have some time and felt like it. GH got rocked by Muscovy - coincidently.. so did the Ottomans. :dizzy:

Never saw that happen until ~1500 when the hordes fall behind technologically. In the 1400's the hordes dominate the east.

Centurion1

07-14-2011, 21:34

Tuuvi

07-16-2011, 02:46

i have the complete version i suppose and i always saw the hordes getting lol raped pretty easily and never really expanding. the ottomans always get ridiculously sized but then they get lol raped because of inferior tech (tech between nations in this game is so euro centric playing against any other nation is just a hassle)

That's one thing that really bugs me about EU III. When I first got the game I really wanted to play as an American Indian civ because I'm fascinated by their history, so the first campaign I tried was a Maya campaign in 1300. That's when I found out that the tech level for all the American factions is 0 and they're basically unplayable. Not to mention the political situation is completely inaccurate, in 1300 the Inca hadn't started building their empire yet and the Maya were never united as a single state, for example.

I think I lot of fun gameplay could be had in the Americas, but instead Paradox chose to represent them as being good for nothing more than getting steamrolled by the Europeans.

Sarmatian

07-16-2011, 14:51

That's one thing that really bugs me about EU III. When I first got the game I really wanted to play as an American Indian civ because I'm fascinated by their history, so the first campaign I tried was a Maya campaign in 1300. That's when I found out that the tech level for all the American factions is 0 and they're basically unplayable. Not to mention the political situation is completely inaccurate, in 1300 the Inca hadn't started building their empire yet and the Maya were never united as a single state, for example.

I think I lot of fun gameplay could be had in the Americas, but instead Paradox chose to represent them as being good for nothing more than getting steamrolled by the Europeans.

The earliest game start date is 1399, and yes, most areas outside Europe, even some inside, are underrepresented. Based on the amount of love received from the devs it's western Europe, eastern Europe, Middle East and North Africa, Far East, Americas and sub-saharan Africa, although after DW, Far East might be ahead of Middle East.

It's not always fair, but it would have been impossible to represent everything 100% accurately. American nations are interesting if you want a REAL challenge.