Rome - Season 2

[Dayve]

I found a website yesterday that streams all 10 episodes in perfect condition of Rome season 2, i thought i would post it here since everybody i have told who i knew would be interested in this didn't even know they had started making the second series yet... I just stumbled upon it 2 days ago by chance and nearly wet myself when all 10 episodes worked perfectly.

I won't put a link here because i think it might be against the rules or something, but if you want it then PM me and i will gladly send it, but be quick, as of now all 10 episodes work perfectly... As it is with these streaming websites, 2 days from now half may not work due to legal reasons...

The link also has the entire series 1 too, i'm not sure if all those work as beautifully as season 2 though as i haven't tried them... I fully intend on buying season 2 on DVD as i did with season 1, but it hasn't even aired on TV here yet, let alone released on DVD.

Or if a moderator were to PM me and tell me it was ok to put the link in this post...

[AngryAngelDD]

yeah nice tv-series

but it´s sad they ended the series after the second season.
it had much potential.

[mAIOR]

It also was extremely expensive... That's the main reason not to make further seasons. It was a miracle they made the second season as it is.


CHeers...

[Nick.Altman]

It also was extremely expensive... That's the main reason not to make further seasons. It was a miracle they made the second season as it is.


CHeers...

I saw both seasons in one week a month ago. Fracking great searies! Awsome show! Titus Pullo the man, Ray Stevenson! :2thumbsup:

[neoiq5719]

yeah nice tv-series

but it´s sad they ended the series after the second season.
it had much potential.
what? there wont be a third one?

[Warmaster Horus]

Apparently not.
There was a petition online as I remember, but I forgot the link.

[I of the Storm]

Highly improbable that there will be a third season. Apart from the money issue the story has simply been told! Most of the protagonists are gone and, even more important, Octavian has won. End of story. What else is there to tell?
No, I think it had a nice ending and shouldn't be continued. It would be bad...

[Warmaster Horus]

At the beginning it was the story of Pullo and Vorenus. They could go back to that.
Or, go further in time.
Rome:69AD, the year of the four emperors. Or the conquest of britain, or the various major plots. Plenty of possibilities.

[I of the Storm]

Oh, I see what you mean. New cast, new story, new setting. Simply "more Rome". Well maybe, if the figures at HBO are satisfying, there may be hope for that.

[The Celt]

Highly improbable that there will be a third season. Apart from the money issue the story has simply been told! Most of the protagonists are gone and, even more important, Octavian has won. End of story. What else is there to tell?
No, I think it had a nice ending and shouldn't be continued. It would be bad...
NERO!!!! WE WANT NEROOOO!!!!!!:furious3: But seriously yeah I like how it ended even though they left it pretty open just incase. Like even though Vorenus is in a bed we never actually see him die, we've got Cloe's son living with Pullo, Octavian's got a lot of work to do whilst his mother and Wife get into a scuffle ect. They ended it rather well but they certainly made sure that, given the chance to come back, they'd have some things to work with.:juggle2:

[Dayve]

How can they make a third installment and change all the actors and storyline? I had a hard time following season 2 because a lot of actors from the first were gone and i missed them, especially Caesar, and that new lad they got to play Octavian got on my nerves...

Season 2 was good, but nowhere near as good as the first...

[neoiq5719]

Well i guess it should be like the total war games. Rome is over so let´s move on to the Knights period huh?

[I of the Storm]

True, there are some loose ends but I think they should let it be. I'd be happier with a completely new HBO/BBC coproduction of that intensity on a completely different historical subject. If Rome sells good, which I hope it will do, and this TV-profile is profitable then all of history is theirs to use. Stories always have a perfect moment for them to end, and they caught it with Rome. Continuing it would most likely cause some disappointment, I'm afraid.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Like even though Vorenus is in a bed we never actually see him die...
I noticed that too. Seems like they didn't want to definately kill him off. Maybe the love of his family will cure him or something stupid. :laugh4: And after all, if Titus Pullo can survive things like pottery stuck in his brain, why couldn't Vorenus survive a little stomach wound? :smash:

[Beefy187]

Its gonna be extremely expensive but..
ill love to see Rome season 3 about 2nd punic war
I love Hannibal:yes:

[Incongruous]

Going back in time?
Thats a new spin on things.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

The BBC didn't screen series two, after the first series got slammed so badly over here.

If the Beeb had screened the second series they'd probably never have been able to make another historical drama, ever.

[Redmeth]

Why was it slammed? I heard the critics enjoyed and had good ratings.
Too much sex? Or violence? I mean for the standards of the Roman world I think they'd view it as a Nickolodeon type of show, I think they did their best and did not go over the top (the gladiatorial fight near the end of the first series is just superb).
There was a lot of sex in the second season especially towards the end. So back to the original question what made the brits (you're in Uk right?) so mad at the show?

[Grey_Fox]

A lot of the problem is because the beeb cut out a lot of the politics from the first two episodes which they joined into one, yet kept all the sex in, their reasoning being that British people would already know the causes of the civil war.

But I haven't seen any of the reviews, that's just what I've heard.

Wiki says that the been haven't confirmed an airing date yet, but if they refuse to show it it'd be bollocks if you look at it since it was a coproduction between the beeb and HBO and the beeb gets their funding via taxes so why shouldn't the public be able to watch what they pay for?

[Dayve]

Probably a bunch of 80 year old Catholic women writing in to protest because it had 30-40 sex scenes in it...

So what? The point of the series is to show people what the Romans lived like, and you cannot show how the Romans lived without showing their love of sex... Besides, sex always was and still is the most important thing that exists to the human race, without it the species would die.

Boggles my mind as to why people are so damn offended by it. The show is clearly not to be watched by anybody under 18 due to the violence and sex, and it is given clear warning of this before the show starts so that parents can send their children to bed or whatever they do with them to get them out of the way... I see no reason why adults have to stop the second series from airing... If it's not your taste, don't watch it... Doesn't give you the right to stop other adults from watching, as somebody else here said, what their tax money paid to make!

[The Celt]

Well they did go OTT even by Roman standards once and awhile. Like when Vorenus wrecked that statue of a Roman Goddess(not sure which one) and said "I frack Juno(I think) up the arse! I am a son of Hades!!" or something silly like that. Now, I know fair and well that the Romans were pretty superstitious folks(Heck, back then everybody was.) do you really think those guys would've just stood there in awe? I don't. I think they would've clobbered Vorenus to death right there on the spot for insulting the gods. First, by destroying the avatar of a goddess, then claiming he's the son of the God of the dead? Sorry, but that really smacks of "Hollywoodism" to me.
And just for comparison's sake, lets see you go to Italy and bang up a likeness of the Virgin Mary claiming you were the anti-Christ. Doesn't sound so cool now does it?:laugh4:

Now don't get me wrong ROME was a fantastic show, but come on its HBO people! Don't take everything you saw in that show as showing "what the Romans lived like":2thumbsup:

[Dayve]

Well they did go OTT even by Roman standards once and awhile. Like when Vorenus wrecked that statue of a Roman Goddess(not sure which one) and said "I frack Juno(I think) up the arse! I am a son of Hades!!" or something silly like that. Now, I know fair and well that the Romans were pretty superstitious folks(Heck, back then everybody was.) do you really think those guys would've just stood there in awe? I don't. I think they would've clobbered Vorenus to death right there on the spot for insulting the gods. First, by destroying the avatar of a goddess, then claiming he's the son of the God of the dead? Sorry, but that really smacks of "Hollywoodism" to me.
And just for comparison's sake, lets see you go to Italy and bang up a likeness of the Virgin Mary claiming you were the anti-Christ. Doesn't sound so cool now does it?:laugh4:

Now don't get me wrong ROME was a fantastic show, but come on its HBO people! Don't take everything you saw in that show as showing "what the Romans lived like":2thumbsup:

Vorenus had lost his wife and his kids... He was a little bit peeved with the gods at that point, as you would be with yours if you have any and if they had allowed that to happen to you... Would you not? I don't think he cared what gods he offended...

And don't forget that those men were little more than murderers and thugs and savages and while they may have been a little superstitious as everybody naturally is, at the end of the day they were pretty much just barbarians living in Rome... They murdered senators and rich men just for their money. That scene wasn't over the top at all.

What was over the top was Pullo and Vorenus killing 15 experienced Roman soldiers all armed with sword and shield, while they had just a sword...

[The Celt]

Vorenus had lost his wife and his kids... He was a little bit peeved with the gods at that point, as you would be with yours if you have any and if they had allowed that to happen to you... Would you not? I don't think he cared what gods he offended...

And don't forget that those men were little more than murderers and thugs and savages and while they may have been a little superstitious as everybody naturally is, at the end of the day they were pretty much just barbarians living in Rome... They murdered senators and rich men just for their money. That scene wasn't over the top at all.

What was over the top was Pullo and Vorenus killing 15 experienced Roman soldiers all armed with sword and shield, while they had just a sword...
How were they any more "barbarian" then the senators? And it doesn't matter what happened to Vorenus to cause him to act out, like they'd really give a frack. It was very OTT.:shame: Read some credible books on ancient Rome and you'll see why. I agree on that last comment tho, Pullo and Vorenus were way to overpowered throughout the series, and at times it was really hard to suspend my disbelief.:sweatdrop:


As for the sex scenes....damn......they make The Sopranos look tame.:shame:

[Dayve]

How were they any more "barbarian" then the senators? And it doesn't matter what happened to Vorenus to cause him to act out, like they'd really give a frack. It was very OTT.:shame: Read some credible books on ancient Rome and you'll see why. I agree on that last comment tho, Pullo and Vorenus were way to overpowered throughout the series, and at times it was really hard to suspend my disbelief.:sweatdrop:


As for the sex scenes....damn......they make The Sopranos look tame.:shame:

Because they lived in squalor and murdered people for a living. My statement still stands. Everything Vorenus lived for was taken away, and if it were me i would be just as disillusioned with my gods as he was.

[The Celt]

Because they lived in squalor and murdered people for a living. My statement still stands. Everything Vorenus lived for was taken away, and if it were me i would be just as disillusioned with my gods as he was.
So what?Again, I'd doubt they'd care. How do you know some of those men hadn't lost someone close to them as well? If it were me in that situation, I'd say something like "What makes you think your so special? You were a rich statesmen once! We were always poor! You had much when we had nothing!! We've been suffering down here longer then you have!" :furious3:
So he lost his family? So what? :whip: I'm sure some of those men lost their families in the civil war or other conflicts, hence why they were in the Aventine in the first place!(Save the Mob bosses and those who were born there, and those guys probably lost a few of their parents/siblings at an early age anyway.)
You could also argue that maybe their faith was one of the few things they had left, and Vorenus just took that and fracked it in their faces. Don't think that would be the best thing to do in a RL situation. :juggle2: But then again, I'm not the writer!

But I digress, its just a TV show by HBO, I really shouldn't be looking THAT deeply into the plot. Besides, they had a guest writer come on the show every episode this season so its not the entire show thats at fault.:2thumbsup:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Vorrenus would have been tried and very publically executed for that offence. Painfully. No question of that at all. There are also the massive and deliberate changes to history and I'm sorry to tell you this but the Republic Romans had the same attitude to sex as the Victorians. Stiff upper lip in public at all times, raunchy in private but not with the wife. If any of that got out is was seriously embarressing, Caesar and Pompey were both shamed and mocked for their various indiscretions.

Real or imagined.

[Brightblade]

My whole issue with the series was... lack of CGI battles!!! argg...

[CrownOfSwords]

Problem is that the show was way too expensive to make, and they already dealt with the peroid of Roman history most people are familiar with. I don't think they believe as many people would be interested if they shifted to a different time peroid. I'd love to see it shift to the punic war peroid or even later to Atilla the hun.

[The Celt]

Vorrenus would have been tried and very publically executed for that offence. Painfully. No question of that at all. There are also the massive and deliberate changes to history and I'm sorry to tell you this but the Republic Romans had the same attitude to sex as the Victorians. Stiff upper lip in public at all times, raunchy in private but not with the wife. If any of that got out is was seriously embarressing, Caesar and Pompey were both shamed and mocked for their various indiscretions.

Real or imagined.
See thats what I always figured. But when most people think of the Romans they think of the decedent "Lorica Segmenta" Romans who have women dancing half naked covered in wine whilst their husbands roll around on the floor giggling in their Togas!:inquisitive: Thanks for backing me up PVC!:2thumbsup:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

See thats what I always figured. But when most people think of the Romans they think of the decedent "Lorica Segmenta" Romans who have women dancing half naked covered in wine whilst their husbands roll around on the floor giggling in their Togas!:inquisitive: Thanks for backing me up PVC!:2thumbsup:

Yep, naked wenches, Lorica Segmentata, things took a real dive sometime after Tiberius.

[abou]

Tiberius? You cut it off that early?

[The Celt]

Yep, naked wenches, Lorica Segmentata, things took a real dive sometime after Tiberius.
It got better with Constantine though!:book:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Tiberius? You cut it off that early?

Yes.

Constantine wasn't great, best of the worst really.

Hadrian was okay, Trajan, Marcus Auralius, but then he spawned Commodus and didn't have him killed.

[The Celt]

Yes.

Constantine wasn't great, best of the worst really.

Hadrian was okay, Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, but then he spawned Commodus and didn't have him killed.
Oh show some pity for poor Commodus, its not his fault he was a paranoid schizophrenic! Was he not merciful? WAS HE NOT MERCIFUL!??! :laugh4:

Yeah Marcus Aurelius was one of the greatest though IMHO.

Back on topic:I was wondering about that outfit Brutus was wearing before he took a bath in that lake a few episodes before the battle.(Can't remember the name) Now I'm not an expert on Roman outfits from that time but it looked very much like a 17-19th century Ottoman robe or something and it kinda stood out to me.:oops:
Also, wasn't Atia much older and had already remarried by the beginning of Season 1? This whole thing she had with Anthony got on my nerves after awhile cause we hardly got to see him with Cloe until the last few episodes! :wall:

[Ardu]

Here in the Netherlands season 2 finished some time ago on television. However after 2 episodes in season 2 on prime time, they moved it later up the evening to start at 23:45, not because there was too much sex in it ( Dutch people tend to not make that great a deal about that stuff ) but simply because the ratings were too low. I guess a lot of people only watch these kind of shows when there's at least 2 battle scenes in every episode, over the top graphics and some over the top emotional hollywood drama in it...

I absolutely loved the second season. In my opinion this is the first series of all series and films about ancient Rome, that not only showed the events that happened back then, but also gave a real good insight in roman mentality and attitude towards honour, sex, love and violence. All previous shows and and films made about Rome always showed some cheesy victorian love story and an attitude towards honour and violence based on christian morality...

To view Romans and highly superstitious is a big mistake. By Caesar's era a lot of people had long stopped believing in all these myths about the gods. Especially in the upper echelons of society a weak form of Deism, ( there's probably something out there, but all the old stories are most likely ridiculous ) or even Atheism could be found in abundance. Testimony to this are the amount of followers all the philosophical disciplines had ( stoics, cynics, epicureans etc. ) Romans were pretty open minded about gods. ( The problems they had with Christians and Jews were not so much that they had their own god, many people had, the problem was that they refused to acknowledge any other gods and the sectarian character these religions had. ) This kind of attitude can't be found in Europe again till the enlightenment age ( 18th century ).

Roman attitude about sex was also very lax and can't be compared with anything later on. Even in a secularist society like we have today, you can still see a lot of evidence of a christian morality towards sex. I found scenes like the one where Marcus Antonius fucks a slave because he feels like and the scene where Octavianus looks for a wife typical ( *hey, who is that girl, is she from a good family? I want her to be my wife, make the arrangements* ).
Divorce rates were very high in ancient Rome and a lot of marriages were political ( wives of Pompeius are a good example ) .

If you look at old popular roman writers like Catullus, Horatius, Martialis, who were a bit like the cartoonists and column writers of todays newspapers you often see them using words like penis and cunt more often in one sentence than they're used in an entire hollywood film. These words often have double meaning. Like Catullus famous, *the sparrow of my girl* where sparrow means both cunt and is the name for the actual bird, just like the word *gladius* which means both sword and penis...

Indeed, there were a lot of roman writers who stressed a return to the old values and marriage fidelity, as a cure against decadence. The fact that they stressed a *return* to those values also points out that these values were not too common in their contemporary society. Tacitus looks with admiration to the marriages and the monogamist attitude in Germanic societies that are not yet corrupt and decadent. More often is meant by this *return to the old values* , however, a return to the old Roman militaristic tradition, bravery and honour, in contrast to the wealthy, complacent, smug aristocrats in Rome. This, attitude is also beautifully captured when Octavianus announces his wish to restore Rome to it's ancient glory and values, while everyone around him pretty much ignores this moral offensive...

[Al-Masri]

I really dont think a Season 3 is needed since I Clavdivs pretty much covers that period unless they want to remake that.

[dumuzi]

Dont know why we think the Romans were all prudish. There's really no literary evidence to support this interpretation. In fact Cato the elder--the famous moralist--exhorted young men to use prostitutes in moderation as a vent for their sex drive. If anything their attitude towards sex was anti-Victorian: very unromantic and starkly pragmatic.