Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

[Roy1991]

Does anyone have a list of which vanilla factions became which EB factions?
I tried to use the add_money cheat to give Pontos & Hayasdan some more money to resist the Seleucids, but it seems I need the original factions name for it to work.

I already had a look at the text files, but the only one I could figure out is Egypt (vanilla) became Qarthadast in EB.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

seleucid - Romani
greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
thrace - Epeiros
macedon - Makedonia
numidia - Ptolemaioi
romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
romans_brutii - Baktria
romans_scipii - Hayasdan
carthage - Pontos
pontus - Saka Rauka
armenia - Sauromatae
parthia - Pahlava
dacia - Getai
germans - Sweboz
scythia - Arverni
gauls - Aedui
britons - Casse
spain - Lusotannan
egypt - Qarthadastim

[Roy1991]

Thanks :smiley2:

[Eminos]

Hi.

Edit: OK you got the answer, while I was writing. TA you're to fast for me ;-)


I can give you the list, but since I'm in a hurry I recommend you to look in the EB/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat file. I've changed my mind, this doesn't take so long:

Vanilla --> EB

scythia --> Arverni
macedon --> Macedon
numidia --> Ptolemaioi
romans_julii --> Arche Seleukideia
egypt --> Karthadast
parthia --> Pahlava
carthage --> Pontos
germans --> Sweboz
britons --> Casse
romans_scipii --> Hayasdan
dacia --> Getai
greek_cities --> Koinon Hellenon
romans_brutii --> Baktria
armenia --> Sauromatae
spain --> Lusotannan
thrace --> Epeiros
seleucide --> Romani
gauls --> Aedui


Saba is simply saba. I don't remember but I'll guess they must be SPQR in vanilla. Doesn't matter.

[Maeran]

Out of random curiosity, why were the factions who were moved from their original slots (e.g. Romani, Arche Seleuca, Armenia/Hayasdan) moved?

I figure it was something about making it all work, but how?

[NeoSpartan]

seleucid - Romani
greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
thrace - Epeiros
macedon - Makedonia
numidia - Ptolemaioi
romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
romans_brutii - Baktria
romans_scipii - Hayasdan
carthage - Pontos
pontus - Saka Rauka
armenia - Sauromatae
parthia - Pahlava
dacia - Getai
germans - Sweboz
scythia - Arverni
gauls - Aedui
britons - Casse
spain - Lusotannan
egypt - Qarthadastim


hum... interesting :book:

[abou]

Before RTW 1.5 you couldn't mod cultures. Everything was moved around as a sort of compromise. Also, the Seleukid, Hayasdan, and Baktrian relationship that was wanted to be simulated could only really be done using the three Roman factions together. Hence why everything looks odd.

[Krusader]

Yeah, factions were given faction names due to non-moddable cultures.

These were the cultures:

egypt - Qarthadastim
-
seleucid - Romani
greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
thrace - Epeiros
macedon - Makedonia
-
numidia - Ptolemaioi
carthage - Pontos
-
romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
romans_brutii - Baktria
romans_scipii - Hayasdan
-
pontus - Saka Rauka
armenia - Sauromatae
parthia - Pahlava
-
dacia - Getai
germans - Sweboz
scythia - Arverni
gauls - Aedui
britons - Casse
spain - Lusotannan

[bovi]

I had been wondering why Seleucids and Romani were switched around :beam:.

[EasternScourge]

seleucid - Romani
greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
thrace - Epeiros
macedon - Makedonia
numidia - Ptolemaioi
romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
romans_brutii - Baktria
romans_scipii - Hayasdan
carthage - Pontos
pontus - Saka Rauka
armenia - Sauromatae
parthia - Pahlava
dacia - Getai
germans - Sweboz
scythia - Arverni
gauls - Aedui
britons - Casse
spain - Lusotannan
egypt - Qarthadastim
Interesting.Always wondered why Bactrian generals would sometimes say phrases I heard playing vanilla RTW (like "Imperator").Though I would like to know where Saba came from.Was there just an empty faction space avaible?

[Wolfman]

The Senate Faction slot I believe?

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Yes, it was the Senate slot. It was renamed so no hidden coding for the Senate would do weird things.

[Tiberius of the Drake]

that makes sense. It would be quite annoying if Saba suddenly started spamming full stacks and built huge cities with money that couldnt be gotten from anything humanly possible...(if you didnt notice i hated the senate in the vanilla:furious3: )

[revan1013]

Hate to necro a dead thread, but I keep getting "Faction type not recognized", even when I type in the vanilla names.

Any ideas why this might be the case? And is there any other way to do it?

[QuintusSertorius]

Did you use the correct syntax?

add_money romans_scipii, 20000

The comma is important.