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GeneralHankerchief
10-18-2007, 03:35
Nice effort khaan, and you make good points, but I'm afraid the only way that my overinflated ego will change my decision is if I see the final status list detailing everyone's roles.
Also, most of your defense is WIFOM, and I said from the start that I would be inactive this game so there would be little point in you killing me off.
Beefy187
10-18-2007, 07:17
Bah... I hope Factionheir is the mafia then ill be right.
There was only one kill... that means someone was saved and both doctors active?
Wouldn't the block be cancelled if the doctor got killed?
I am just asking...
And it would be time for Dutch to reveal his partner.
pevergreen
10-18-2007, 08:58
Frankly, I am rather surprised the mafia killed Tran. I was going to vote him this round, I though he seemed the most suspicious to me.
Vote: FactionHeir
With DG, GH, and Kage apparently innocent, and obviously I know I myself am innocent. Therefore, that leaves us with only one choice, FactionHeir.
And if you people want a reason as to not vote me, I do have at least one: look at the games I have been mafia in. I have always attempted writeups, with the exception of one mini game in which Sapi did all the writeup. Furthermore, all of my writeups have followed a theme with the assailant. No such thing in this game, and I don't think Ichi would go out of his way to make sure that there wasn't any writeups if the mafia wished so. Heck, just look at the most recent mini-game I was in, I had a common assailant, a common weapon of choice, heck, even had a common word used in all of the kills. Lastly, GH, look back at the games I was mafia and measure your lifespan in those games compared to this one. When I've been mafia, I've always had you killed off early.
Ichigo has said he did a few of the kills.
And it would be time for Dutch to reveal his partner.
That would be useful if kamikhaan or FactionHeir were his partner, since they are the only ones left who are not confirmed innocent...
EDIT: @the townies who are still alive: DO NOT TRUST SIGURD.
That would be useful if kamikhaan or FactionHeir were his partner, since they are the only ones left who are not confirmed innocent...
EDIT: @the townies who are still alive: DO NOT TRUST SIGURD.
If Dutch's partner was Tran, then we know that kamikhaan or FactionHeir is the remaining mafioso.
If Dutch's parner is Kage, then we also know that either kamikhaan or FactionHeir is the remaining mafioso.
However if Dutch's partner is kamikhaan, then we know FactionHeir is the Mafioso.
If Dutch's partner is FactionHeir, then Kamikhaan is the Mafioso.
Either way, the town should know that they don't vote for Dutch's partner. That's why Dutch should name him.
The town should push both kamikhaan and FactionHeir... let's see who makes a mistake.
I am not going to help there as you obviously can't trust me.
What I have said is nothing but good advice.
If Dutch's partner was Tran, then we know that kamikhaan or FactionHeir is the remaining mafioso.
If Dutch's parner is Kage, then we also know that either kamikhaan or FactionHeir is the remaining mafioso.
However if Dutch's partner is kamikhaan, then we know FactionHeir is the Mafioso.
If Dutch's partner is FactionHeir, then Kamikhaan is the Mafioso.
Either way, the town should know that they don't vote for Dutch's partner. That's why Dutch should name him.
Nope, Dutch should only name his partner if it's kamikhaan or FactionHeir. We already know Dutch, GH and Kage are innocent.
FactionHeir
10-18-2007, 10:59
If it helps at all, I'm not Dutch's partner but a normal patient. So if we believe Husar, Kagemusha and GH are innocent leaving only khaan. If Husar lied however, or got an inconclusive/false result, it could be Kage or GH too.
As I am quite clueless who would be the mafia, I'll vote:khaan because I think his response was suspicious. Too many coincidences in it.
I guess it is up to khaan then...
If he claim to be Dutch's partner and Dutch confirms, then FactionHeir is the last Mafioso.
seireikhaan
10-18-2007, 13:00
Nor am I Dutch's partner. I am just a patient.
I'm starting to think it's FactionHeir, he was named as a suspect by both mafiosi shortly before their lynch and he even says I may be a liar. :whip:
Khaan's argument however could be planned, with Holmes being his partner he might have gotten advice on how to act differently since Holmes knows his typical mafia behaviour. :inquisitive:
Dutch_guy
10-18-2007, 13:18
There was only one kill... that means someone was saved and both doctors active?
Wouldn't the block be cancelled if the doctor got killed?
If someone was saved, we'd be notified in the exact same way as we were when Husar was saved.
I think the one kill is due to only the serial killer being alive, as any other mafioso still alive would be able to kill 2 players each night.
:balloon2:
And if you people want a reason as to not vote me, I do have at least one: look at the games I have been mafia in. I have always attempted writeups, with the exception of one mini game in which Sapi did all the writeup. Furthermore, all of my writeups have followed a theme with the assailant. No such thing in this game, and I don't think Ichi would go out of his way to make sure that there wasn't any writeups if the mafia wished so. Heck, just look at the most recent mini-game I was in, I had a common assailant, a common weapon of choice, heck, even had a common word used in all of the kills. Lastly, GH, look back at the games I was mafia and measure your lifespan in those games compared to this one. When I've been mafia, I've always had you killed off early.
Yes, all well and good.
Execept for the tiny detail that you had the master of writeups on your team. That Kommodus was guilty and there was still no writeups, speaks of no-writeup as a strategy.
Not Killing GH would also strengthen your alibi when you would need it; like now :yes:.
I think the one kill is due to only the serial killer being alive, as any other mafioso still alive would be able to kill 2 players each night.
:balloon2:
Sorry M8 the serial killer is dead... :yes:
FactionHeir
10-18-2007, 13:21
If someone was saved, we'd be notified in the exact same way as we were when Husar was saved.
I think the one kill is due to only the serial killer being alive, as any other mafioso still alive would be able to kill 2 players each night.
:balloon2:
Wrong. Ichigo did say that the game would end if only townies adn the SK were alive. Now can we be sure you are not mafia?
Dutch_guy
10-18-2007, 13:28
Sorry M8 the serial killer is dead... :yes:
Ah, I see...
Wrong. Ichigo did say that the game would end if only townies adn the SK were alive. Now can we be sure you are not mafia?
I missed that. I don't know why that would suddenly make me a mafioso, but then again you would know how to fit the profile.
And yes, you can most certainly be sure. As Hepcat can vouch for me, and he's a confirmed innocent. Conveniently forgot about that, didn't you ?
:balloon2:
GeneralHankerchief
10-18-2007, 13:28
Okay, Dutch is starting to creep me out a bit.
We need this thing to happen:
- Hepcat to come in and confirm his actual doctor name.
Until then, Dutch could just be playing a major prank on us all. Convenient that Tran was probably the other "doc" and was killed before he could reveal. It might just be an elaborate setup.
I'm sticking with khaan for now, but I don't believe that we can discount Dutch as an innocent yet until someone vouches for him.
Dutch_guy
10-18-2007, 13:45
We need this thing to happen:
- Hepcat to come in and confirm his actual doctor name.
Agreed.
I'm sticking with khaan for now, but I don't believe that we can discount Dutch as an innocent yet until someone vouches for him.
I really do not like the way FH seemed to have conveniently forgotten about Hepcat's role, his reveal, and how he would prove me innocent with a mere post in this thread.
:balloon2:
seireikhaan
10-18-2007, 13:58
Yes, all well and good.
Execept for the tiny detail that you had the master of writeups on your team. That Kommodus was guilty and there was still no writeups, speaks of no-writeup as a strategy.
Not Killing GH would also strengthen your alibi when you would need it; like now :yes:.
Yes, all well and good.
Except for one tiiiiny detail. What kind of mafioso votes for his partner 6 rounds in a row, including helping get him lynched, as I did against Kommodus throughout the game?
Yes, all well and good.
Except for one tiiiiny detail. What kind of mafioso votes for his partner 6 rounds in a row, including helping get him lynched, as I did against Kommodus throughout the game?
WIFOM...
I remember being mafia in a small game with Tran. I almost convinced the townies to lynch him in the very first round.
Hepcat told me that dutch_guy was a doctor even before dutch_guy revealed, that's why I repeatedly called dutch_guy innocent.
I think FactionHeir tries to throw a lot of suspicion around into every possible direction. First the detective who got killed may be lying, then the doctors, one of whom got kiled may be lying...I guess everybody but FactionHeir is lying? :inquisitive:
Yes, all well and good.
Except for one tiiiiny detail. What kind of mafioso votes for his partner 6 rounds in a row, including helping get him lynched, as I did against Kommodus throughout the game?
Why didn't you use this as your defence instead of the "there were no writeups, hence I can not be Mafioso" ?
BTW: I have lynched partners in crime too. Ask Orb.
Hepcat told me that dutch_guy was a doctor even before dutch_guy revealed, that's why I repeatedly called dutch_guy innocent.
I think FactionHeir tries to throw a lot of suspicion around into every possible direction. First the detective who got killed may be lying, then the doctors, one of whom got kiled may be lying...I guess everybody but FactionHeir is lying? :inquisitive:
You have read your investigations closely haven't you Husar? I mean, there are no ambiguity in them?
The innocent are clearly innocent. There is no .. "Kagemusha has not killed [yet]" or "GH was in bed last night"
hmm?
You have read your investigations closely haven't you Husar? I mean, there are no ambiguity in them?
The innocent are clearly innocent. There is no .. "Kagemusha has not killed [yet]" or "GH was in bed last night"
hmm?
I got a Pm saying that you killed Waldinger in the first night and after that our gamemaster was a bit lazy, I either got guilty or innocent and often he didn't even PM it but told me in private chat. So the only chance of "misinterpretation" would be that our dear gamemaster told me something wrong in the first place, though I doubt it.
GeneralHankerchief
10-18-2007, 14:55
Right, so it appears that we have narrowed down the list to khaan and FH.
Khaan is WIFOMing like crazy and FH is throwing suspicion around.
It comes down to two things for me: FH's coolness under pressure when people were joke-voting him, and khaan's out-of-nowhere defense of me a few rounds back.
Therefore, I think it is:
https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8075/11126015596b53093dbmwn6.jpg
kamikhaan
Kagemusha
10-18-2007, 15:04
Dutch Guy can you explain one minor thing. Why didnt you protect Husar after he revealed himself?
Dutch_guy
10-18-2007, 15:10
Dutch Guy can you explain one minor thing. Why didnt you protect Husar after he revealed himself?
This was due to a mis communication between me and my partner, we both sent in different names and thus cancelled eachother out. I was more or less absent that round, and only discovered my mistake when it was too late.
It comes down to two things for me: FH's coolness under pressure when people were joke-voting him, and khaan's out-of-nowhere defense of me a few rounds back.
Hmm we disagree, I think we need to lynch FactionHeir.
Time to put my money where my mouth is then, vote: FactionHeir.
:balloon2:
Hehe... if FactionHeir was mafia, I'll be so happy :laugh4:
FactionHeir
10-18-2007, 17:57
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not. Of course you have no way of knowing whether I am or not until you lynch/kill me, but its just a game anyway.
Kagemusha
10-18-2007, 18:26
Well it seems that the doctors messed up badly. But i have confirmation from Husar that Dutch Guy is innocent. So Vote Factionheir.
FactionHeir
10-18-2007, 18:36
You do realize that Husar didn't confirm Dutch innocent but merely said that Hepcat told him? We don't know whether Hepcat is a doctor or not though, since he hasn't verified it.
Anyway, its fine by me. Just means town wins a turn later (if you finally decide to get khaan next turn).
It's either you or khaan and there will be no other voting round I think. We have a 50/50 chance of winning and most of my old teachers would say we will choose the wrong answer. ~D
It's not surprising though, judging by the pace of the game before this last round.
And most of the arguments like Kommo and Sarathos calling you suspects can be interpreted both ways. I'm really undecided, there are pros and cons for both of you, only you two know who of you is guilty but then that's always hard to prove.
FactionHeir
10-18-2007, 19:25
Why wouldn't there be another voting round if GH, Dutch and Kage are still alive and khaan is mafia? He can't kill 3 at once, can he?
Why wouldn't there be another voting round if GH, Dutch and Kage are still alive and khaan is mafia? He can't kill 3 at once, can he?
If we lynch a townie tonight and the mafia always has 2 kills, the next day there will be only 2 players left: the mafioso and one townie.
However, if we lynch a townie and the doctor protects a mafia target, we still might win this game, because then it'll be 2 townies and 1 mafioso... :juggle:
The thing I don't quite get is that the mafia only killed Tran this round. Dutch_guy said they didn't receive a confirmation that they saved someone like they have before.
I can't see why GH or Kage didn't buy the bucket.
Any thoughts on this?
Okay, Dutch is starting to creep me out a bit.
We need this thing to happen:
- Hepcat to come in and confirm his actual doctor name.
Until then, Dutch could just be playing a major prank on us all. Convenient that Tran was probably the other "doc" and was killed before he could reveal. It might just be an elaborate setup.
I'm sticking with khaan for now, but I don't believe that we can discount Dutch as an innocent yet until someone vouches for him.
Dutch_Guy is innocent, he is one of the guardian angels. So be nice to him. ~D
The thing I don't quite get is that the mafia only killed Tran this round. Dutch_guy said they didn't receive a confirmation that they saved someone like they have before.
I can't see why GH or Kage didn't buy the bucket.
Any thoughts on this?
They killed Tran and blocked the other guy (khaan or FH) in case Tran wasn't the doctor and the doctors would try to protect Tran?
FactionHeir
10-18-2007, 20:41
In that case I retract my accusation of dutch_guy. Hepcat confirmed you are innocent :bow:
FWIW, I think I'd vote khaan were I still alive and able to. :shrug:
khaan:2(GH,FH)
FH:3(khaan,DG,Kage)
Voting ends in 15 minutes
woad&fangs
10-19-2007, 02:36
And?
Octo-Squid Victory
We've been fooled by the host :shame:
seireikhaan
10-19-2007, 02:46
Hmm, am I the only one to notice that Ichigo didn't say, "PM's please"?
Sarathos
10-19-2007, 03:10
Hmm, am I the only one to notice that Ichigo didn't say, "PM's please"?
But that should be a given. If someone is lynched and the game is not over there are obviously mafia left who need to send in orders.
Do you just need reminding Khaan..... :smoking:
Sarathos
10-19-2007, 03:12
Anyway, if im counting correctly there are only 3 town left.
Come on town...win
GeneralHankerchief
10-19-2007, 03:41
Assuming FH was innocent we'll have three people left. I'm willing to bet that khaan is one of them.
Husar has vouched for Kage, myself, and Dutch, the only other liv'uns.
Unless this is an elaborate strategy concocted by Husar to protect his final buddy and he, a mafioso, was offed by the serial killer, the only real suspect left is khaan.
Nice try, bud, the numbers just didn't work out in your favor in the end.
seireikhaan
10-19-2007, 03:48
Assuming FH was innocent we'll have three people left. I'm willing to bet that khaan is one of them.
Husar has vouched for Kage, myself, and Dutch, the only other liv'uns.
Unless this is an elaborate strategy concocted by Husar to protect his final buddy and he, a mafioso, was offed by the serial killer, the only real suspect left is khaan.
Nice try, bud, the numbers just didn't work out in your favor in the end.
My, my, I defend you and help save your butt, and this is the thanks I get? Utter hostility and paranoia? But don't worry, I'll accept your apology when the game is over.:yes:
GeneralHankerchief
10-19-2007, 03:57
And I will gladly give one if I'm wrong, but I don't think I'm wrong.
Sarathos
10-19-2007, 05:39
Well first the game must end, just focus on that first guys...
Unless this is an elaborate strategy concocted by Husar to protect his final buddy
Wouldnt that mean you might be mafia GH....
FactionHeir
10-19-2007, 09:00
I told you I wasn't mafia.
Beefy187
10-19-2007, 09:17
Aww.. Ok chop me up and burn me alive.. Steak for everyone!!
Shlin can clean someones house for free:laugh4:
Why should we "assume" FH is innocent???
I'm still not convinced :2thumbsup:
FactionHeir
10-19-2007, 17:28
Because according to Husar we lynched 3 of 4 scum already?
Some games don't end before the end of a nightphase, wasn't that introduced by GH as realism mode?
Did Ichigo say whether it would work like that or not?
And FH, I never said we have 4 scum, I never knew how many mafiosi or serial killers there are/were, I just got three guilty results, the rest was based on assumptions and my humble tries at analyzing the game rules. For all I know everybody we lynched could have been a serial killer. ~D
Dutch_guy
10-19-2007, 17:57
Seeing as to how the game proceeds, it seems FH wasn't one of the bad guys.
Also, I will protect myself tonight - with the aid of my partner.
:balloon2:
Deadline will close in about 2 hrs and 15 mins because I doubt I'll be on after that.
GH was ground up and served in the Hospital's kitchen in the hamburgers they served for lunch.
Still alive:
Kagemusha
Dutch_Guy
Kamikhaan
GeneralHankerchief
10-20-2007, 00:02
Yeah, figured that would happen. Hey khaan, at least you got your semi-revenge.
Dutch! Kage! Finish it!
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 00:03
Vote: Dutch Guy. Methinks DG has been fooling us all along. Where is this partner? Why did he never speak up? His partner can't be Kage, since that would mean that there were no mafiosi left. Plus, the 'saintly' name now seems a little too fitting for the role.
I guess kamikhaan is our man then, I don't see how Hepcat could be guilty and why he would lie concerning dutch. And I found Kage innocent.
The only possible way for khaan to be innocent would be an evil twist in which dutch was a traitorous doctor who worked for the mafia but that would sort of have resulted in the doctor role being useless, so that's unlikely IMO.
Vote: Dutch Guy. Methinks DG has been fooling us all along. Where is this partner? Why did he never speak up? His partner can't be Kage, since that would mean that there were no mafiosi left. Plus, the 'saintly' name now seems a little too fitting for the role.
That's a possibility but why was Hepcat lead astray? Hepcat could hardly be guilty since he was killed and the serial killer was already dead. Though it might explain why dutch "accidentally" sent in the wrong name when he was supposed to save me and why he didn't name the other doctor.
I think it's time for dutch to name the third doctor role and the other doctor should confirm that. There isn't any danger at all in doing that now.
Kagemusha
10-20-2007, 00:09
Vote kamikhaan. Dutch is vouched by Hepcat and Husar and Khaan isnt by anyone. Unless there is some evil twist, voting Khaan is the only reasonable option.:whip:
I think it's time for dutch to name the third doctor role and the other doctor should confirm that. There isn't any danger at all in doing that now.
:laugh4:
There is no 3rd doctor role. It was all an elaborate deception.
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 00:14
And furthermore, protecting yourself, DG? How convenient. Should he have actually been doctor, he should have protected GH, obviously. Afterall, if he was doctor, from his perspective, then he should have felt that either I was mafia and would go after GH for 'pinning' me, or because whoever else was mafia would do so to frame me. Either way, GH should've been the obvious protection. Look now, we've got 3 people left, and therefore is the last round of play. Either the mafia gets lynched and the town wins, a townie gets lynched and the mafia win. If he was the doctor, it should've been clear who the target was going to be, and should've protected him. Combined with the earlier, "I sent in the wrong name" deal, it should be clear that DG is in fact not a doctor, but a mafia scum.
There is no 3rd doctor role. It was all an elaborate deception.
I was actually curious since you named only yourself and dutch at first so I thought you might not know about a third doctor or something, but since you can hardly have been guilty and have no apparent reason to lie, i think dutch is innocent, so it has to be kamikhaan. khaan also seems to forget that you vouched for dutch and I haven't seen him explain why you would lie about dutch's innocence.
And furthermore, protecting yourself, DG? How convenient. Should he have actually been doctor, he should have protected GH, obviously. Afterall, if he was doctor, from his perspective, then he should have felt that either I was mafia and would go after GH for 'pinning' me, or because whoever else was mafia would do so to frame me. Either way, GH should've been the obvious protection. Look now, we've got 3 people left, and therefore is the last round of play. Either the mafia gets lynched and the town wins, a townie gets lynched and the mafia win. If he was the doctor, it should've been clear who the target was going to be, and should've protected him. Combined with the earlier, "I sent in the wrong name" deal, it should be clear that DG is in fact not a doctor, but a mafia scum.
Just accept it kamikhaan, it's all over for you. At least you lasted longer than I did as mafia in the Beer and Old People game(getting killed in the first round).
:2thumbsup:
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 00:30
Hepcat has been murdered.
Ah, but can you be sure Hepcat wasn't taken down by a serial killer? Note that there is not even a basic description like the other kills. I think our serial killer was still alive at this point, and took him down. Which explains how Hepcat can vouch for Dutch Guy, since they are both mafioso.
GeneralHankerchief
10-20-2007, 00:36
Ah, but can you be sure Hepcat wasn't taken down by a serial killer? Note that there is not even a basic description like the other kills. I think our serial killer was still alive at this point, and took him down. Which explains how Hepcat can vouch for Dutch Guy, since they are both mafioso.
It was a good effort, man. But really, it's not swaying anybody.
Husar, how many guilty results have you received and who were they for again?
Ah, but can you be sure Hepcat wasn't taken down by a serial killer? Note that there is not even a basic description like the other kills. I think our serial killer was still alive at this point, and took him down. Which explains how Hepcat can vouch for Dutch Guy, since they are both mafioso.
I got Sigurd, Kommo and Sarathos as guilty, with three mafiosi and the game ends after they're all dead. So it's impossible that the serial killer was still alive at this point unless we had three(yes, Hep would have had to be the second mafioso to die or the game had been over after his death) and I kinda doubt that.
Ok, I have to say I might have screwed up a bit but to prevent that I revisited my PM box and looked up the result on Kagemusha, the PM actually says he appeared to be innocent, I didn't put too much thought into it since all other results were quite clear so I thought this ine would be clear in the sense that it included the word innocent but maybe Ichi had some sort of roleplaying in mind at the time and maybe Kage was the mafioso who didn't send any kills in round two?
It's rather late for that I know, but not too late.:sweatdrop:
Just thought it might be useful for consideration. Ichi didn't say my results were vague or could be incomplete(unlike Sigurd in the Midgard Saga) so I assumed they would be reliably true and since Kage's result had the word innocent in it...
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 01:05
Unvote: DG
Vote: Kagemusha
Based on Husar's last couple posts.
GeneralHankerchief
10-20-2007, 01:06
Husar, did you tell Kage anything aside from the fact that he was innocent? Did you contact him at all before you found out he was apparently innocent?
-edit- Just like to add that khaan probably changed his vote because he realized that Dutch (his former target) was the swing vote and obviously wouldn't vote for himself.
Husar, did you tell Kage anything aside from the fact that he was innocent? Did you contact him at all before you found out he was apparently innocent?
Oh noes, wrong question, he kinda knew everything from round one. ~D
I will oficially allow all of you to hate me now if he turns out to be mafia.:creep: :tomato2: :hide:
edit: Ichi just said in the chat if the mafia didn't kill in a night they'd still show up guilty so maybe we should stick with khaan.
Sarathos
10-20-2007, 03:18
I think Khaan is the best option because he is to intent on getting Dutch_Guy lynched. Although, are we even sure DG is a medic..???
Death Vote:Kamikhaan
Oh.. the suspense is unbearable. :beam:
I think Khaan is the best option because he is to intent on getting Dutch_Guy lynched. Although, are we even sure DG is a medic..???
Death Vote:Kamikhaan
Since we all know you're guilty that has to be an attempt at saving kamikhaan I guess. :inquisitive:
Dutch, where art thou? Come on man, vote kamikhaan !
Dutch_guy
10-20-2007, 12:59
Wasn't near a computer yesterday, am now:
vote kamikhaan
:balloon2:
GeneralHankerchief
10-20-2007, 14:58
:smoking:
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 15:51
Eh, never mind.
If no one minds I'll close the lynching early since it doesn't seem like it's going to change. Does anyone have any problems with that?
I don't have a problem with that.
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 22:01
Meh, go ahead.
I'll give it about half an hour then I'll close voting.
There was a man standing in the room of Dutch_Guy. He stood in the darkness and lit his cigarette.
With the lynching of khaan, Kagemusha was home free he had killed an entire hospital full of patients. He was pleased with his accomplishments, but was sad that he had no one to share the victory with.
His partners, Kommodus and Sarathos, had both been killed earlier in the week. Kage was pleased with his victory and as he left the hospital burst into flames killing everyone who was left inside.
Sign ups:27
Stig
Waldinger
Hepcat=St. Catherine able to protect someone every even numbered night, not able to be killed when protecting someone
Beefy187
gibsonsg91921
greaterkhaan
FactionHeir
CA
Andres
pevergreen
Sigurd=Harold Shipman=Serial killer able to kill someone ever even numbered night
Brave_Sir_Robin
Zain
Caius
Sarathos=John Bodkin Adams= Can incompacitate someone every odd numbered round as well as killing someone.
Omanes
Craterus
Kagemusha=Baruch Goldstein=May kill someone every even numbered night without fear of detection
shlin28
GH
Husar=Physician-Galen-able to investigate one person each night. Can survive one kill attempt.
Warmaster Horus
Dutch_Guy=Andrew Avellino=Able to protect someone every odd numbered night, not able to be killed when they are protecting someone
Tran
Kommodus=Harold Shipman= May kill someone every odd numbered night without fear of detection
CR
Xiahou
Mafia Victory
Thanks for playing
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 22:31
Alright, townies, you wanted me lynched, you got it.
https://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6164/failuredr9.jpg
Ugh, so Kage appeared innocent not because he was idle, but because he actually killed someone? :dizzy2:
Oh well, congratulations. :sweatdrop:
Beefy187
10-20-2007, 22:33
Heh I was on the right track...
I see Kage had a special special role:laugh4:
Thanks for the game Ichigo. I enjoyed it:2thumbsup:
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 22:37
Oh, and good game, mafia.
And thanks to Ichigo for hosting it.
And no thanks to the town for listening to conventional logic.:wall:
I did not expect that, too busy hounding after FH :beam:
Congrats mafia :bow:
Guess we have ourselves to blame for not analysing more thoroughly an ambiguous investigation result. Sorry khaan :embarassed:
Thanks for hosting Ichigo :2thumbsup:
And no thanks to the town for listening to conventional logic.:wall:
Hmmm, I remember someone who misinterpreted his investigation results in a previous game... :stupido2:
I believe it was a certain Greaterkhaan.
:jester:
Don't be too harsh on your fellow townies ~;)
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 22:48
Hmmm, I remember someone who misinterpreted his investigation results in a previous game... :stupido2:
I believe it was a certain Greaterkhaan.
:jester:
Don't be too harsh on your fellow townies ~;)
Heh, except there's one difference: townies actually responded when I found out that one, as opposed to the town ignoring it in this one. Plus, that game shoulda served as an example to investigate any results that aren't 100% clear on guilty or innocent.
There, I win the argument.~;p
GeneralHankerchief
10-20-2007, 22:56
Oh jeez.
Kage, once again you continue your mastery of the town when Mafia. Your move in contacting me at the beginning of the game was brilliance. The one bright spot was me being too lazy to pass the message onto someone else like you suggested. :laugh4:
khaan:
I'm sorry.
I sucked. My intuition is worthless. You were innocent. You were right. I was wrong. The next time you defend me I should take it for what it is worth and not get all paranoid. I am ashamed at my level of suckitude and am doubly ashamed that it was you that my worthless intuition pointed out.
Does that suffice? :tongue:
Anyway, this marks my last Mafia game for a while. Thanks for making it a fun experience!
Dutch_guy
10-20-2007, 22:58
Damn, didn't see this one coming. And all because we misinterpreted a single investigation result, and I still don't quite see how we were able to do that.
I even protected Kage, at one point...
:balloon2:
seireikhaan
10-20-2007, 23:06
khaan:
I'm sorry.
I sucked. My intuition is worthless. You were innocent. You were right. I was wrong. The next time you defend me I should take it for what it is worth and not get all paranoid. I am ashamed at my level of suckitude and am doubly ashamed that it was you that my worthless intuition pointed out.
Does that suffice? :tongue:
Quite.:beam:
Anyway, this marks my last Mafia game for a while. Thanks for making it a fun experience!
Aww. Hope you get back in time for my game.:yes:
I sucked. My intuition is worthless. You were innocent. You were right. I was wrong. The next time you defend me I should take it for what it is worth and not get all paranoid. I am ashamed at my level of suckitude and am doubly ashamed that it was you that my worthless intuition pointed out.
My intuition said khaan was innoocent, but I would have never expected such a twist in my investigation results, I have to say though that I made a big mistake by revealing to Kage, maybe I shouldn't have sent any PMs at all, kommo would probably have died without me PMing you. :shrug:
Anyway, this marks my last Mafia game for a while.
Same here.
And congrats again to Kage for exploiting my stupidity to the fullest extent. :sweatdrop:
Beefy187
10-20-2007, 23:51
Aww cmon... We managed to lynch 3 of the scums thanks to you Husar. If we had 1 more night we couldve won
Better luck next time ey townies?:clown: Congrats mafia for their victory:balloon2:
This will also mark my last game for a while. Catch you guys later.
Dang, this is not good for we townies.
:laugh4:
I'm sorry kamikhaan, but you have to admit that you did start to sound rather desperate and outrageous when you tried blaming Dutch_Guy and I.
So congratulations to Kagemusha. It was a good game.
And thanks to Ichigo for hosting it. :2thumbsup:
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
I knew it...
woad&fangs
10-21-2007, 02:50
Can I ask why I was killed in the first night? Either way, good game Kommodus,Kagemusha, and though it pains me to say it, Sarathos.
Sarathos
10-21-2007, 03:12
BOO YAH!!!!!!!!!!!! First time as mafia and what a victory. Great work Kage for finishing it, sorry I couldnt of helped. You too Kommo good stuff
Better luck next time town....
Ouch Waldinger......:(
woad&fangs
10-21-2007, 03:19
Sarathos, how painful is it to unzip your member?
Sarathos
10-21-2007, 03:21
Oh not too bad.....
Kommodus
10-21-2007, 03:40
Great game, guys - especially Kagemusha, Mafioso Extraordinaire! Honestly, he almost single-handedly won this game for the team. He expertly got on the side of the town's detective, Husar, very early in the game, and deftly manipulated things from there. Way to go, buddy - you unquestionably deserve the credit for this one! :bow:
The townies should not feel bad about being defeated. How could they have known that Husar's investigation result on Kage was false? All of Husar's other investigation results had been accurate, and there was no reason not to trust this one. Sure, it was worded slightly differently - and things might have gone differently had Husar noticed this and brought it to the town's attention sooner - but ultimately it probably would've ended the same way due to Kage's expert play.
GH, you now know exactly how I feel after Mafia VII. It's painful to have your trust in what you considered a virtual certainty dashed. But I don't think you really have much to be ashamed of - it happens to the best of us. :shakehands:
Regarding my performance: as usual, mediocre mafiosery. :shame: I have one thing to say in my defense. Notice my role:
Kommodus=Harold Shipman= May kill someone every odd numbered night without fear of detection
That was not how my special ability was described in my initial PM, however, which read:
You are Harold Shipman, you are one of the physicians posing as a patient and killing them. You have the ability to avoid investigations by the Physician every odd numbered night.
My partners Sarathos and Kage both had correctly-worded PMs, which indicated they could kill every other night without fear of detection. Because mine was worded differently, containing no mention of whether I was active or not, I thought my power worked differently. Therefore, on the night I was investigated (I think night 5), we decided the safest course of action would be for me to be idle. Kage told me I would be investigated; had I known how my ability really worked I would've done the opposite.
Granted, I probably would've been lynched eventually anyway - that kamikhaan had me pegged pretty early on a badly blundered post. But I thought I had managed to recover reasonably well, and might have made it a few more rounds, had Husar not found me guilty.
So if the townies felt a bit fooled by the game host, the mafia were too. :yes:
Nevertheless, Ichigo did an excellent job hosting overall. Thanks man - kudos on a successful game with some unique and interesting twists! I had a lot of fun. ~:cheers:
After being lynched, and especially after Husar had outed me and Sarathos, I decided to not post at all, making my guilt obvious. This was deliberate, as in order to protest my innocence I would've had to bring Husar's results into question. This I did not want to do, as Husar was the best alibi for our only remaining player, Kagemusha.
So, nice game everyone! Husar, you played great as the detective, nailing the serial killer as well as two mafiosi. I don't think much more could've been expected of you. And once again, Kagemusha - you are a true expert! I hope I never have to face you from the other side of the divide. :2thumbsup:
Beefy187
10-21-2007, 05:12
My crazy psycology experiment almost worked :sweatdrop:
I agree with yopu on most points Kommo, however it was my own stupidity and not that much Kage's genius why he got close to me...I contacted him :laugh4:
I also wanted to investigate him later but he urged me to do it in round 2 so I could be sure that he's innocent, I understand now why that was, in round 3 or 5 he had turned up guilty. :laugh4:
On the other hand, that's why I wasn't killed early on I guess, it's good to have a mafia friend. :sweatdrop:
Kommodus
10-21-2007, 17:31
I agree with yopu on most points Kommo, however it was my own stupidity and not that much Kage's genius why he got close to me...I contacted him :laugh4:
So I was told... out of curiosity, why did you pick Kage to contact? It was really a stroke of luck for our team. :laugh4:
On the other hand, that's why I wasn't killed early on I guess, it's good to have a mafia friend. :sweatdrop:
Yes, we figured that we could use the situation to our advantage by letting you live. It didn't work out quite like we planned... we knew I was going to be investigated round 5, and we thought I'd turn up innocent, but as I noted earlier, I turned up guilty because I was idle.
So I was told... out of curiosity, why did you pick Kage to contact? It was really a stroke of luck for our team. :laugh4:
Sigurd. :sweatdrop:
I think Sigurd is quite a good player and I had picked him or noone as contact if he hadn't turned up guilty. Now Kage voted for Sigurd and there was no reason for a mafioso to vote for another mafioso in round one where most people just guess anyway. Of course I didn't know Sigurd was the serial killer, should've thought about that possibility but I think I was too afraid of him being mafia for some reason. :laugh4:
Kagemusha
10-21-2007, 21:13
Thanks for the game guys!:2thumbsup: I must say this game was one of the hardest i have ever played. We were really lucky because Husar contacted me in the start. This gave us valuable information trough out the game. Also getting rid off our competition, Sigurd during first round could not have been better for us. Now to the hard part.
As some of you know, i am pretty active on the chat and i talk a lot with Husar there, who i would like to consider my friend. It was very hard to me to keep my cool and not say anything stupid during all those days we talked in the chat. Its hard to deceive a friend, but of course this is just a game. Game of deception.Thanks for Ichi, my mafia friends,Serial Killer, doctors,townies and our detective Husar (I think you played great game as detective, my special ability was like made for deceiving detective and i think, i would have contacted someone probably also as detective with the guilty result on night one. You just had really bad luck that i was a mafioso.) Finally, it was pleasure killing you all.~:wave:
I guess the game would have been different had Husar investigated in another order. If he had investigated Kage first and me second I would have been the innocent and Kage the guilty one.
That is why I asked if your investigations could be ambigious Husar.
Had you investigated me on even nights I might have been innocent. :beam:
It was me who got you Waldinger.. ya know, payback is a :furious3:. I was going to make a story of a revengeful serial killer taking out all past "enemies".
Unfortunately it became the shortest story ever. :wall:
Craterus
10-26-2007, 21:39
Tssh. You guys screwed up. :wink:
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