Britannia Hotseat Campaign:OOC thread

[Zim]

1. England-Zim
2. Ireland-Phonicsmonkey
3. Wales-Roadkill
4. Scotland-deguerra
5. Norway-Cheetah

Rules:
-I'll be setting up a console enabled game, allowing me to change passwords if something happens, but I'm hoping not to have to.
-Regardless, I will need everyone's passwords (pm them to me) in case a turn must be skipped or played by a subtitute.
-I'd like players to complete their turns within 48 hours of it being uploaded by the player before them, or to notify me if circumstances require them to have more time.
-Behind the scenes negotiation and diplomacy is encouraged. However, If you want to make a public ingame pronouncement, doing it in this thread is fine. If enough people want to negotiate in the open, or just threaten eachother or gloat over victories, I can start an in character thread.

Save naming convention:
Britannia-1-1

Britannia for the campaign name, first 1 for the turn number, and the second number signifies which player is up.

e.g. England goes first, when I finish my turn I will save and upload as Britannia-1-2. Britannia, first turn, second player.

[Zim]

First order of business: Would anyone like an In Character thread to make proclamations, public negotiations, brag about victories, etc.?

[Privateerkev]

Sure, I just wouldn't expect anyone to use it for a few turns so it could wait.

[Zim]

I'll wait a bit then. It just occurred to me that A. at least one of the older Roman hotseats was full of public diplomacy as well as secret pm diplomacy, and B. In real history, many alliances and deals were open, as well as many being secret. I figure it might add a bit to the roleplaying of the game, especially if players could taunt eachother over battles and such. :yes:

[_Tristan_]

Why, oh why did I have to be offline yesterday evening ? ~:mecry:

I would have joined... only too late...


Good luck on that PBM, have fun...



PS : Sorry for the hijack...

[Zim]

Sorry, Tristran. If it makes you feel better, I'm the faction with all the bullseyes on his back this time. :clown:

After our current round of Kingdoms hotseat games ends, I'm hoping we'll start another playing different factions. Another Britannia one will definately be on my list. :yes:

[Privateerkev]

I would definitely be up for playing the same campaigns over again but I'd prefer a different faction each time where possible. :yes:

[gibsonsg91921]

have a world council, like the diet of kotr but more like united nations. you can mock each other, etc. all the diplomats go to rome or something

[phonicsmonkey]

Gentlemen, I will be ready to play the first turn this evening after work, in about 8 hours or so..

I'm really excited, like a child before Xmas

[Zim]

I should be able to play either as soon as Roadkill posts in this thread saying he's ready to start, or after the 24 hour period ends, about 4ish your time. Let's see how quickly we can get the first two faction's turns in. :2thumbsup:

[RoadKill]

I'm ready.

[phonicsmonkey]

Damn I wish I had Kingdoms installed on my work computer



:idea2:

[Privateerkev]

Me too. But I work for an IT department at my university and they are pretty picky about what goes on their computers.

But I'm glad we're going to be under-way soon! :2thumbsup:

[phonicsmonkey]

lol - I think attempting to install M2TW or any computer game on my work PC would be a certain way to get myself fired pretty quickly....much like spending all day surfing computer game forums....erm

[Zim]

Ok, I'm going to set up the game and start playing. :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

My turn is done. :2thumbsup:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-1-2.zip

Phonicsmonkey, you're next.
Roadkill, I still need your password in case you need someone to sub for you some time.

[phonicsmonkey]

I should be able to get to it in the next couple hours...

[Zim]

Sounds good. Looks like we'll get at least two factions' turns in a few hours, maybe three if Roadkill does his, too. :D

[phonicsmonkey]

done and done

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-1-3.zip

[Zim]

We did it! Two turns in a couple hours. :2thumbsup: Depending on where in Canada he is, it might be too late for Roadkill to do his tonight, but that's still pretty good just starting out.

[Cheetah]

Away till saturday afternoon.

[Shahed]

Hey guys ! Thanks for the headsup Zim. Keep me in mind if you need a sub.

[RoadKill]

Where do i unzip the save to? I can't find my britannia folder.

EDIt: NVM FOUND IT. I should be done.

But i'm confused after I'm done all my stuff do i just click next turn and save it? or what.

[Zim]

Yeah, it took me a while to find the kingdoms folders the first time I did one of these games, :sweatdrop: . I guess you noticed they're in the "mods" folder.

The best thing to do is hit end turn, then when the screen asking for the next player's password comes up, hit escape and save the game. That way, the next person doesn't have a chance to see what you're up to. :yes:

[RoadKill]

How do I upload the save?

[RoadKill]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/?C=M;O=D

I don't know how to upload the direct link to the save, but I uploaded it into the PBM directory just sort the dates and its at the top.

[Zim]

You can upload it here in the filespace the ORG is kind enough to provide. :2thumbsup:

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Uploaders/pbmupload.php

[Privateerkev]

I have the save but I'm beat and I drank a lot. I'll get to it when I wake up tomorrow. Since Cheetah is out till saturday anyways, I figure it's not a big deal. :beam:

[Zim]

No big deal at all, although I wish I'd been drinking tonight. ~:cheers:

[Shahed]

I'm torn between going to a Pilsner Urquell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilsner_Urquell) pub or to a sushi bar for some Swanotsuru (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake) ! ...


:juggle2:

:clock:

~:idea:

Well... SAKE IT IS !!! BANZAI !!!

[Privateerkev]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-1-5.zip

Here is the save for Cheetah. :2thumbsup:

[RoadKill]

We need a IC thread.

[Zim]

We need a IC thread.

Done. :yes:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=1772120#post1772120

[Cheetah]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-1-6.rar

Done! :2thumbsup:

ps. it is .rar, hope it is fine

[Privateerkev]

rar's are fine.

But for our naming convention, it should be Brittania-2-1 which means Brittania game, 2nd turn, 1st player.

Not a big deal now since you put up the link for Zim to take but something to keep in mind for the future. :yes:

[Zim]

That file type is fine. :yes:
I'm off on a half day trip, but I should be able to get to this tonight.

[Cheetah]

But for our naming convention, it should be Brittania-2-1 which means Brittania game, 2nd turn, 1st player.


Sure.

Also, an hour ago I would have said that it will be a very peaceful game. However, I just got a rather harsh message from someone *khm*, so things could be more interesting than they seemed. :2thumbsup: ~;)

[gibsonsg91921]

i will follow this with great interest, the international council seems quite intriguing.

[Privateerkev]

Also, an hour ago I would have said that it will be a very peaceful game. However, I just got a rather harsh message from someone *khm*, so things could be more interesting than they seemed. :2thumbsup: ~;)

Medieval 2 Total Peace seems boring. Brittania is not big enough for 5 kingdoms so it was inevitable that there would be clashes. The more I play these, the more it is pounded home just how important the first few diplomatic moves are. They really set the tone for the rest of the game. :yes:

Also, I like to incorporate history into how I play these hotseats and the real King Alexander was not very patient with the Norse when it came to those islands. :no:

No matter what, it should be fun. :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

Ok, I am taking the save. I might take a little while(less than a day) with it. With all those settlements and less money than I'd like I think a bit of planning is in order. :yes:

Thanks gibsonsg91921, I thought it would add an interesting element to the game. Of course, it has no power, except maybe that of popular opinion. But I think it will be a fun way to air grievances in the open, make public deals, and maybe just threaten/insult eachother. :clown:

[Zim]

Roadkill,
I can get a diplomat to the bridge east of Cardiff, but none are close enough to reach any of your armies or settlements. Hopefully he can reach one next turn(maybe you have a diplomat that can meet him?). We'll have to delay the settlement giving one more turn.

[Zim]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-2-2.zip

All done. Sorry about the wait. I tried to play the save earlier and I kept getting a graphics error. One cleaning of the cd and restarting of the computer later, everything was fine!

I want to congratulate everyone on getting a whole turn done so quickly. If we can keep up the pace, I think it will stay exciting for everyone. :2thumbsup:

[phonicsmonkey]

I will get to this tonight...

[gibsonsg91921]

wait, so is ozzman even in this game at all? it presents an interesting idea about teams in hotseats, for diplomacy if nothing else

[Zim]

wait, so is ozzman even in this game at all? it presents an interesting idea about teams in hotseats, for diplomacy if nothing else

Nope. I asked Cheetah and he said he hadn't given permission for Ozzman to post on his behalf.

I just had a funny and completely impractical idea, succession hotseat. :clown:

[Privateerkev]

A Roleplaying Hotseat game is completely possible. We did it with the Grand Campaign in KotR.

I don't think I would like to play such a game though. I prefer things come about organically in the game. Also, I think people should be able to run their factions any way they want. They don't even have to roleplay. It's pure multi-player and anything goes, except for a couple of basic rules.

Just my opinion. If others want to play hotseats this way, they are more than welcome to start one. Or if Zim wants to turn this game into that, he can, but I'll be bowing out if that happens.

Just not the kind of game I want to play.

[Zim]

I didn't say that I was changing the nature of this game, just that the idea hit me when I saw Gibson's post. :clown:

Wasn't there a mini KOTR for the Teutonic campaign once? That would have been interesting to try, although at the time I didn;'t really notice it, not having even gotten into KOTR itself.

[Privateerkev]

Yeah, there was an attempt to get a Teutonic multi-faction Succession game started. I think it is in permanent limbo at the moment.

I don't think your idea is impractical at all. It would just have to be thought out and have a good group of role-players to bring it off.

[gibsonsg91921]

maybe tho, like ozzman did, there could be multiple representatives who debate about the your kingdom during the downtime while you wait for the save.

[Privateerkev]

There would have to be a system of rewards/punishments. Otherwise, what's to stop Ozzman from getting Cheetah involved with a war with Ireland? Which basically would have happened if we took Ozz seriously.

Basically you'd have to have something like the Count system set up. And avatars for characters. But there are no battles to fight. So there is less incentive for players to join and get attached to characters. Not saying there is no incentive but you'd have to think up different carrots and sticks.

[Zim]

maybe tho, like ozzman did, there could be multiple representatives who debate about the your kingdom during the downtime while you wait for the save.

I think this might make it a bit hard on the people who are actually playing the game. One of the nice things about Kingdoms Hotseat games is that the turns go quickly. We go through multiple turns in a day, sometimes. There aren't many factions, and few rebel settlements means players can get right to struggling with eachother directly. Having people join factions as "representatives" would bog things down, I think.

If any players want to do something like that, they could create their own "Diet" type thread and invite a few people to play with them, but I'd like to keep the offical Council thread to the five actual players. That way username recognition remains high, making it easy to recognize whish kingdom the posting player is ruling, and the thread won't become too large from all of each faction's members debating eachother.

That's not to say I wouldn't join a game like that, I just don't think I'd care to run it.

[gibsonsg91921]

interesting theories. also, it would be difficult to keep people from other kingdoms from watching your secret dealings in your diet threads.

[Privateerkev]

Yeah, if people want to make a totally non-binding thread where they just comment on the direction of games IC, they can. I am not sure how much fun it would be but the option is there. I just don't want them to be binding or influential on the current games unless those GM's agree. What Ozzman did was try to change the course of the politics of the game without having a real stake in it. To me that is unfair to Cheetah and should be discouraged unless it is agreed to beforehand.

I agree with Zim that one of the perks with these Hotseat games is their relative ease and quickness. True, some of us pour a lot of time into storyline and character development but these things are completely optional. If you want, you can play your faction completely OOC and just ignore the IC PM's from other players. Adding massive amounts of bureaucracy would bog the game down to the point where it would not be as much fun for me.

If more people want to get involved with these games, then I would encourage them to start up more games. The demand seems to be there. A lot of people would be more than happy to play in more than one game at once and you don't need all of the slots filled up by players anyways. Also, if your the GM, you can make the game as complicated and layered as you wish.

Me, I prefer the simplicity of just letting people play their factions how they want within the bounds of as few rules as possible. :yes:

[gibsonsg91921]

perhaps an enlightenment-style salon in which various people discuss politics in a nonbinding atmosphere? it could be hosted by a totally third party person, with irish, english, scottish, welsh, and norwegian aristocrats chatting and perhaps getting into heated debates? haha

it could be a neat way for people who are interested but dont have the time to play (ie, like myself) to join the game

[Zim]

That would be fine. I could start a thread like that if you'd like (or you could :yes: ). I'm not sure participation would be very high, but it wouldn't hurt to try it. If it took off it would be interesting. I've noticed at least a few people follow these games anyway.


perhaps an enlightenment-style salon in which various people discuss politics in a nonbinding atmosphere? it could be hosted by a totally third party person, with irish, english, scottish, welsh, and norwegian aristocrats chatting and perhaps getting into heated debates? haha

it could be a neat way for people who are interested but dont have the time to play (ie, like myself) to join the game

[Privateerkev]

perhaps an enlightenment-style salon in which various people discuss politics in a nonbinding atmosphere? it could be hosted by a totally third party person, with irish, english, scottish, welsh, and norwegian aristocrats chatting and perhaps getting into heated debates? haha

it could be a neat way for people who are interested but dont have the time to play (ie, like myself) to join the game

I personally see no problem with that as long as it is made clear to all five actual players that they can completely ignore this thread at will. It would be up to the individual players if they wish to be influenced by the talk that goes on in the salon.

That way, it adds flavor, allows people to get involved without committing too much time, and avoids making the salon attendee a "side-seat-player". I don't want to bog down the actual game.

I don't want people sitting on their turns because they are waiting for "salon diplomacy" to happen or are bogged down with requests from people who don't even play the game.

Also, there should be a certain amount of demand for this so we're not doing this just for one or two people. Otherwise it will just die from neglect.

[Zim]

PK,
No worries. No matter what there will still be a 48 hour limit for turns, unless a valid excuse is supplied. "I want to see what the rumor-mongers say about Wales' intentions" shall not be considered a valid excuse. :clown:

[gibsonsg91921]

The idea is that the salon debates will have nothing to do with the actual politics. Anything anyone says is not politically binding, it could just be Norwegians mouthing off at Welsh for whatever reason but that doesn't mean the King of Norway and the King of Wales aren't friends. I'll start it up.

EDIT: It's up. I got the idea cuz in AP Euro this week we're having an Enlightenment Salon in character and we have to portray our particular enlightenment figures. I'm Voltaire! haha

[phonicsmonkey]

I like the idea of the salon - be interested to see whether you get much takeup...

[phonicsmonkey]

roadkill, you're up

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-2-3.sav

[gibsonsg91921]

well, so far no interest. u guys can post too if u like, just be careful of what u say

[gibsonsg91921]

looks like it aint catching on. o well, i tried haha

[Zim]

I'd give it another day or so, just in case. I made a post in there to make sure the thread doesn't slide off of the first page any time soon.

To my fellow players, I wouldn't take anything from that post as bearing on the actual game, I just quite literally pulled it out of nowhere while trying to think of something interesting to say. :clown:


looks like it aint catching on. o well, i tried haha

[gibsonsg91921]

To my fellow players, I wouldn't take anything from that post as bearing on the actual game, I just quite literally pulled it out of nowhere while trying to think of something interesting to say. :clown:

And that's the point of the salon thread, to have reactions in a non-hostile environment (that may become a tad hotter as it goes on, if it goes on) and to discuss things.

[Privateerkev]

To my fellow players, I wouldn't take anything from that post as bearing on the actual game, I just quite literally pulled it out of nowhere while trying to think of something interesting to say. :clown:

Yeah, what I say in the salon thread has nothing to do with the faction I play in the game. In fact, to be fair, I am playing it as really anti-Scottish. :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

That Milanese trader seems to attribute more guile to me than I'm capable of. I wish I could expertly play all the factions against eachother. :clown:

[Privateerkev]

No one said that the people in the salon had to be right! :laugh4:

[Zim]

No one said that the people in the salon had to be right! :laugh4:

Indeed. It's much more fun when they aren't . :clown:

It's nice to see some non-players in there. Some of the ideas they have are pretty interesting.

[gibsonsg91921]

im glad its becoming a little more popular, this could be an interesting idea after all

[Privateerkev]

im glad its becoming a little more popular, this could be an interesting idea after all

Well I figured the players could help breath new life into it. But we have to be careful and walk a fine line when we play separate characters. I'll try not to put in any really in-depth information that I got IC from letters or anything.

I figure it should just be self-righteous academics debating about things they think they know a lot about. :beam:

[RoadKill]

Sorry for the delay taking save, and will be up in a sec.

[RoadKill]

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Uploaders/pbmupload.php#test

Done, too bad you have to autoresolve everything.

[phonicsmonkey]

I hear you about auto-resolve - such a shame we can't actually fight one another on the battle map

but still, what a great way to play, I'm so glad I got involved!

:2thumbsup:

[Privateerkev]

Cheetah's up:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-2-5.zip

[Zim]

Alright, I play in two more turns. :2thumbsup:

Things definately seem to be heating up, in a way that would be impossible if these games were played more quickly. :clown: I'm glad we did the Council thing, it has added an extra dimension to the game.

[Privateerkev]

I had a lot of fun writing the "Alexander goes mad" post. :2thumbsup:

As for heating up, yeah it's getting good. I think the speed is just about right. Going quickly helps keep interest up but leaving enough time for diplomacy allows all of the layers and schemes to come about.

I'm really starting to get hooked on these hotseat games. SP is just starting to seem really stale now. I keep starting SP games but I get bored and never finish them.

But with hotseats, I get giddy with anticipation over playing a single turn. :beam:

[Zim]

I can see why you liked that one. :laugh4:

Yeah, every once in a while I start an SP game, but I haven't been able to keep one going since I entered my first hotseat game here. I thought not being able to play battles would lessen the fun a little, but I haven't even noticed (even in the Crusades game, the only one where I've had any battles. :clown: ). SP Europa Universalis 3 can hold my attention a bit longer (I have a game going on where I'm trying to make Wales a superpower), but not much longer.

These things are addictive, expecially the diplomacy. The challenge of both working with and against other human beings makes a huge difference, as does the chance to roleplay.

Next few turns in this will likely set the tone of the early game, and the next few of the Teutonic game will see some real action. I can't wait. :2thumbsup:

[RoadKill]

You can thank me for heating things up. Hahaha

[gibsonsg91921]

this is really fun to watch. tchyeah!

[Privateerkev]

OOC: Yah, Zim sorry, for all the confusion. It is because I played the save before we we got all these agreements done, but i didn't upload it, but then after we had all this discussion I played the turn a second turn, but then with my stupidity. I uploaded the previous save instead and the right one so, I had to play it IC, haha sorry.

While I'm not the GM, I feel strongly about this. You should play your turn exactly once!

You should not reload and play part or all of the turn again. Make your choices and deal with what happens.

An exception is if the game crashes or something.

Zim should feel free to weigh in or give his own rules for this specific PBM.

[Zim]

I have to agree. Turns should only be played one time anyway. I committed a gaffe of my own in one of the games (won't say which! :clown: ) and you just hav to roll with it.

At any rate, no harm was done, and you used the old save ayway. No harm, no foul :2thumbsup:

Look at it this way, it makes Anglo-Welsh relations more...interesting.

[gibsonsg91921]

Hey, you guys seem like you have no lives and want more gaming fun on your plate! :clown:

Check out the Multiplayer Tournament (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=96510) if you want to try your hand online. You can't get enough Medieval 2 Total War. If you have never tried online, that's ok, most everyone I know hasn't.

And so I'm not hijacking the topic, I agree with PK and Zim. Some of the screw-ups are just more interesting anyways.

[Zim]

Unfortunately, I don't have the internet connection for that kind of thing. :sweatdrop:

I think it's pretty much been settled that reloading is not allowed. No need for everyone to chime in that they agree. 3 of the 5 players here are new to hotseat games, and when I first started I had to ask to see if I could reload to make an adjustment regarding an agent move (obviously, I couldn't ~;p).

Any future rules concerns should be pmed to me first. As the GM, I'm the one who has to be the badguy and tell people what they can't do. :clown:

[Privateerkev]

Any future rules concerns should be pmed to me first. As the GM, I'm the one who has to be the badguy and tell people what they can't do. :clown:

Gotcha! :bow:

[Zim]

Now on a lighter and possibly off-topic note, between turns in the hotseat games I've been playing Europa Universalis 3. I thought I would see if I could make Wales a first rate power. :beam:

After several brushes with death and two wars, the first of which I lost any chance to gain a foothold in my preferred colonization spot(South America), and the second of which lost me one of my home territories, almost all of my colonies, and 90% of my yearly income, I've finally started to recover.

All bow down before my mighty Empire!

It stretches through the mighty northern end of Wales in Europe.
https://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2424/image003zs9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

Then, on the west coast of North America, I control all from the thriving metropolis of New Jansylvania (Don't ask what happened to the old one :sweatdrop: )

https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9440/image001cz1.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

to the frozen, desolate backwater of Ludwigistan in the north.

https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1290/image002lz0.jpg (https://imageshack.us)


:laugh4: Bwahahahahaha! Tremble before my mighty Empire!

[Cheetah]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-3-1.rar

It is up. Sorry for the delay.

[Zim]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-3-1.rar

It is up. Sorry for the delay.

No delay, you were well within the deadline. :yes:

[phonicsmonkey]

yo, I'm moving house this weekend - should have my computer set up at the new place by saturday night, but I'll have no internet connection there until at least monday

I have my usb key with me at work - if you get the save uploaded today (ie. in the next 8 hours or so) I'll be able to dl it here, take it home, play, and upload from work on monday..otherwise we'll just wait until monday, so no hurry

[Zim]

Doings have been afoot in the Crusades campaign, but not that its over ,I'll download the save now, and I promise to have it done in, say, two hours?

Is that good? :yes:


yo, I'm moving house this weekend - should have my computer set up at the new place by saturday night, but I'll have no internet connection there until at least monday

I have my usb key with me at work - if you get the save uploaded today (ie. in the next 8 hours or so) I'll be able to dl it here, take it home, play, and upload from work on monday..otherwise we'll just wait until monday, so no hurry

[phonicsmonkey]

fine by me - like I say, no hurry, just wanted to let you know in case I dropped off the radar for more than 48 hours - technically I'll be exceeding the deadline this turn as I probably won't be able to get it uploaded until monday

[Zim]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-3-2.zip

Done!

The deadline is more of a "I need to know if you need more time within 48 hours" than a strict deadline to finish the turn. :yes:

[phonicsmonkey]

I have it on my usb key - if my wife allows it I may be able to play it this evening and upload it before we move tomorrow..don't hold your breath though, I have lots of boxes to pack

:no:

[Zim]

I see you Phonicsmonkey. :clown:

Any word from the missus?

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is up!

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-3-3.sav

now to appease mrs monkey....

[RoadKill]

Uhh... Problem Zim. You have men in your fort and i can't return to my own land... So I'm gonna have to lay seige to it...

[Zim]

Uhh... Problem Zim. You have men in your fort and i can't return to my own land... So I'm gonna have to lay seige to it...

Go ahead and take it with your catapults (did you reaad my pm the other day?).

King Henry will take it that the men in the fort occupied it without his permission, and the Welsh are free to go through it. :yes:

We will renegotiate the ceasefire next turn.

[Zim]

Ok, we're rapidly nearing the 48 hours mark. :yes:

[Privateerkev]

Roadkill is online but in the Gameroom.

[Zim]

He's been online a lot the past couple days. I'm hoping he'll check the throneroom and see that post. Otherwise I may need to find a sub tomorrow.
:sweatdrop:

[Privateerkev]

You could just shoot him a PM...

:laugh4:

[Zim]

I prefer not to if I don't have to. It seems more like hounding the person then. :clown: I guess I will, he only has a few hours, technically.

[RoadKill]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/?C=M;O=A
Phew! Made it Sorry for the delay.

[Privateerkev]

It's up for Cheetah

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-3-5.zip

[Cheetah]

Done. I love this turn. :2thumbsup: It is started. ~;)

Unfortunately, I cannot upload the savegame for some reason; I will try it later today.

[Zim]

I don't suppose you could email it? Will it not upload at all, or just not to the PBM filespace?

Edit: Starting your war with a bang, Cheetah?


Done. I love this turn. :2thumbsup: It is started. ~;)

Unfortunately, I cannot upload the savegame for some reason; I will try it later today.

[gibsonsg91921]

It's heating up. Oh, baby.

[Cheetah]

I don't suppose you could email it? Will it not upload at all, or just not to the PBM filespace?

Edit: Starting your war with a bang, Cheetah?

Yeah, with a Big Bang!

And no it is not uploading at all. It has to wait for tomorrow. Sorry.

Also, phonicsmonkey, sorry I mixed up the name of your king in the council thread. In retrospect I think it fits the norse, I mean what would they care about the name of your king, when he is dead anyway. ~;p ~;)

[phonicsmonkey]

Hey no worries cheetah, I plan on spelling King Haakon's name wrong on his gravestone too...:smash:

[Cheetah]

Monkey, you have exceeded your quota. To answer your question, all were wiped out. My angry vikings cut them down. ~;)

[phonicsmonkey]

Cheetah, hark at the words of the ancient prophesy:

'O Feidelm Prophetess, how do you see our host?’

‘I see it blood-stained, I see it red,’ said Feidelm and she spoke as follows:

I see a fair man who will perform weapon-feats, with many a wound in his flesh. A hero's light is on his brow. His forehead is the meeting-place of many virtues.
In each of his eyes are the seven jewel-bright pupils of a hero. His spearpoints are unsheathed. He wears a red mantle with clasps.
His face is beautiful. He amazes women-folk.This lad of handsome countenance looks in the battle like a dragon.
Like is his prowess to that of Cú Chulainn of Murthemne.I know not who is this Cú Chulainn of fairest fame, but this I do know, that by him the army will be bloodily wounded.
I see a tall man in the plain who gives battle to the host. In each hand he holds four small swords with which to perform great deeds.
He attacks with his gáe bolga and also with his ivory-hilted sword and his spear. He can ply them on the host. Each weapon as he casts it has its own special use.
This man wrapped in a red mantle sets his foot on every battle-field. Across the left wheel-rim of his chariot he attacks them. The distorted one kills them. I see that he has changed from the form in which hitherto he has appeared to me.

He has moved forward to the battle. Unless heed be taken, there will be destruction. I think that it is Cú Chulainn mac Súaldaim who now comes to you.

He will lay low your entire army. He will slaughter you in dense crowds. Ye will leave with him a thousand severed heads.

The prophetess Feidelm does not conceal your fate.

[Zim]

Any luck with the save, Cheetah?:clown:

[Cheetah]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-4-1.rar

It is up!!! :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

Got the save and should upload the new one in a while. :yes:

Save is up! Britannia-4-2.zip

Giving what's been going on in the Teutonic thread, I feel I should clarify a few things in case they come up later.

-Subs have full access to the old saves of the faction they're subbing for to look around before making a turn. This will help them determine the situation for the faction they're subbing for.

-Subs should not make any drastic changes in the actions of the faction they're subbing for (i.e. attacking the faction's long time ally, unless they knwo the original palyer waws planning to).

-If you do think someone improperly used a save and sent you information you shouldn't have, please do not forward it in it's entirety to me if it includes your faction's plans or those of your allies. I don't want to know, and it would be almost impossible for me to pretend that I didn't read the information. Just tell me in vague terms what they did (this guy got into Scotland's save and gave away troop positions, etc.) and I'll figure something out.

[phonicsmonkey]

sorry, this is probably my fault but if you're posting the save can you put it in a new post next time?

only I was looking out on the forum page for a new post in this thread - didn't occur to me that you might edit your old one...so I missed this

anyways, I'll get to it tonight

[Zim]

On my computer with wireless it gives a url for the save when I upload, but with my dial-up computer it doesn't, so I just posted the name of it. It's in the PBM filespace, hit "view", then the most recently updated thing twice.

Best I can do, I've been banished form the comp with wireless (it's in the kitchen) while cooking is being done. :sweatdrop:

[phonicsmonkey]

lol @ King Henry banished from the kitchen

that's fine, I don't really need the URL, I can look it up on the upload page like you said

but if you could create a new post (rather than editing the old one) then the thread gets bumped to the top of the forum page and I know there's an update that I need to check...

is that ok? just means I don't have to keep scanning the thread for edits...

[Zim]

:laugh4: I was confused earlier when Gibson editted a post of his to add a save for our Frozen Crusade game. I think in both cases the poster was unsure whether double-posting was ok. I'll do it anyway from here on in, noone's warned me for it yet.

[Ferret]

check out the Imperial Library then, TC's made a lot more than 2 posts in a row there :clown:

oops, better get out of this thread. I know you never wanted me in here as you started it right in the middle of the night in England :clown:

[phonicsmonkey]

:2thumbsup:

[Zim]

check out the Imperial Library then, TC's made a lot more than 2 posts in a row there :clown:

oops, better get out of this thread. I know you never wanted me in here as you started it right in the middle of the night in England :clown:

:help: He discovered our secret plan to exclude anyone anywhere near GMT from our game (cheetah slipped through somehow. :clown: ).

We'll have to let loose the Austrian Crusader Ninjas to get him!

P.S. I figured it would take a day or two to get all the players we needed. I was pretty surprised we had five so quickly.

[Ferret]

:help: He discovered our secret plan to exclude anyone anywhere near GMT from our game (cheetah slipped through somehow. :clown: ).

We'll have to let loose the Austrian Crusader Ninjas to get him!

P.S. I figured it would take a day or two to get all the players we needed. I was pretty surprised we had five so quickly.

:laugh4: fair enough, but remember the Franconian Lutheran ninjas are far more effective so I'm hardly worried :clown:

Even if I had joined I would certainly end up being annihilated by you for the third time, of course it will happen in the Teutonic one soon, I've seen your giant armies hiding behind trees!

[Zim]

We're on opposite sides of the map in that game and Tristan is annihilating me. :clown:


:laugh4: fair enough, but remember the Franconian Lutheran ninjas are far more effective so I'm hardly worried :clown:

Even if I had joined I would certainly end up being annihilated by you for the third time, of course it will happen in the Teutonic one soon, I've seen your giant armies hiding behind trees!

[Privateerkev]

Crusading German Mediaval Ninjas!!!!!


:7ninja:

On a more serious note, I agree that the the new save should be posted in a totally new post, even if it means "double posting". I have noticed people not get to their save for awhile since they didn't check for edits.

As for the rules, double-posting seems to be ok, spam is not. So, as long as it is not "spam", your good.

[Zim]

Then from here on I shall double post!

Since the subject of how much time can be given for people to play their saves has come up in another game, and the holidays are upon us, I need to ask a question.

How many of you will have some trouble playing between the start of next week and New Year's Day?

If more than half the players are going to be out of comission for that week and a half, I'm thinking of doubling the amount of time people have to play saves to 4 days (or even more). If all of them (but me, I have no life and I'm free :clown: ) we may go on hiatus. If only one or two can't make it, then I'd like to see if they could find a sub. :yes:

[phonicsmonkey]

I was just thinking about that

I will probably be able to play a turn or two on either xmas eve, xmas day or boxing day

but I'm leaving for hong kong on the 27th and I don't get back 'til the 3rd Jan

I would REALLY rather not have to hand over to a sub, but if that's the ruling I guess I'll live with it

[Zim]

Well, that's about ten days from now. We'll see what happens. :yes:
If enough people are having problems over the holidays, I'll definately lengthen the time limits. That's what I'm trying to check about. :yes:

[phonicsmonkey]

here's the save

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-4-3.zip

[Zim]

You're up, Roadkill.

[deguerra]

hey phonicsmonkey, (was Sinan at first, your avatars look similar, and hes always hanging about here being unproductive :P)

just to let you know, if you need a sub i'm more than willing. zim knows im not the kind of person to screw around with your faction, and if you leave me some precise instructions im sure it wouldnt be too great of a problem

[phonicsmonkey]

hey, thanks for the offer deguerra - I'll definitely take you up on it if the GM rules that way...:2thumbsup:

[Zim]

I don't mind if you set up subs in advance. It makes things easier. :yes: deguerra is certainly trustworthy. Ireland would be safe in his hands for a turn.

[phonicsmonkey]

sure, but I won't sub unless I have to because I'm having too much fun playing the turns myself :2thumbsup:

[RoadKill]

Hey guys, I am in need of a sub. I will be away for christmas vacation for a week. I'm terribly sorry.

[Zim]

That's fine. What days do you need the sub, Roadkill?

[RoadKill]

The 23rd to the 29th of December.

[Zim]

Ok, if you play your current turn soon, there's a fair chance you won't come up again until after the Holidays. I expect everyone to go a bit slower next week, and will be lenient on turn times.

In the Grand Campaign hotseat, France comes early, though. Would you mind if I or a sub you trust took your first turn if it comes up then? Just leave instructions and they'll be followed. :yes:

[RoadKill]

Okay, I'll do the this turn a little bit later, need to finish some homework first.

[deguerra]

otherwise, again, Id be happy to

[Zim]

I don't want to post in the Tuetonic hotseat thread, since I figure the next player will be more likely to check the thread if he notices the guy before has the last post. Thus, I'll do this here.

The Teutonic game is moving! Better yet, since the same player is going for the Crusade hotseat, that means that one will be moving as well!

Woot! :jumping:

Now that that's out of my system...I may be taking you up on your sub offer, deguerra, if Roadkill can't get to his turn soon. :sweatdrop:

[deguerra]

send me a PM. I would be able to do it around about 18 hours from now, when I get home from work.

[Zim]

Ok, that'll give him about a full day to play his turn. I guess the homework took too long, but it's more important than the game, anyway. :yes:

[RoadKill]

Done but sorry to busy to put up the link, but it is in the pbm upload folder.

[Privateerkev]

Alright, I'll go find it. I'll play it "soonish". :yes:

[Privateerkev]

Here it is. Some stuff happened. PM's and/or Council post coming shortly.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-4-5.zip

[Cheetah]

Done. Just cannot upload it. :clown:

[Cheetah]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-5-1.rar

It is up. :2thumbsup:

[Zim]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-5-2.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

yo wales, you are up boyo

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-5-3.zip

[Cheetah]

It is RK and he is on holidays, or not? IMO we should ask the sub to step in.

[Privateerkev]

Hopefully Zim and RK worked something out for Wales. We'll see what happens.

[Zim]

Roadkill is supposed to be out after tomorrow (the 23). If he cant play by then, the sub will take of it. :yes:

[RoadKill]

Sorry, I don't think I can take it as I have to pack and prepare for the trip, so the sub can step in. I'll pm him the orders. Wait who is my sub?

[Zim]

deguerra's offered to do it if you'd like. :yes:

[deguerra]

yeh im up for it roadkill just let me know what you want

[deguerra]

Im taking Wales' save now. Would it be reasonable to propose an alliance with Scotland, given they are now in the same war, or am I going too far there as a sub?

[deguerra]

right. im told scotland is unsure, so ill leave it for now and get on with things. ceasefire with england apparently. save will be here in a jiffy

[phonicsmonkey]

personally I would leave it alone deguerra, roadkill can do that when he's back if he wants to - wales won't be disadvantaged in the meantime by keeping the status quo

thanks for subbing in so the show can go on!

[Zim]

Bwahaha...my evil plan is coming to fruition! :skull:

Actually, the old ceasefire just had to be destroyed when Wales needed to go through one of my river forts to get his army back into his territory after we made our deal. :yes:

[deguerra]

here it is gents:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-5-4.rar

hope .rar is ok, didn't propose the alliance, as yeh i figure it doesnt really matter. will pm roadkill telling him what ive done and PK that scotland is up. Zim, you are already neutral with wales, so no ceasefire necessary.

edit: roadkills inbox is full...guess itll have to wait until he comes back. just for reference, roadkill, I have a list of things I did, just let me know if you want to see it

[Cheetah]

It is Privateerkev then me! ~;)

[Privateerkev]

It is Privateerkev then me! ~;)

And now it's you! :beam:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-5-5.zip

[Cheetah]

And now it is me!!! :laugh4:

... nobody likes me in this campaign ... :no:

[Privateerkev]

... nobody likes me in this campaign ... :no:

It's because we fear you. :yes:

The Norse have to raid. And no one wants the Norse to raid them. So...

[Cheetah]

The Norse have to raid only if you force them. Refuse the most reasonable compromise and they have no choice but to raid. Give them enough settlement to settle and they will. ~;)

[Privateerkev]

The Norse have to raid only if you force them. Refuse the most reasonable compromise and they have no choice but to raid. Give them enough settlement to settle and they will. ~;)

If you noticed, there are very few "rebel" settlements in this game. Only 4 and they are all weak and poor. The Norse need to take something from someone or raid someone. Hence, we fear you... :beam:

[Cheetah]

*khm* The norse needs only two of those rebel settlements an one decent sized city somewhere. :beam:

I know the last criteria can be problematic. :sweatdrop: But there is that thing called diplomacy ... :inquisitive: or is it called war? I am confused :laugh4:

[Zim]

bump.

How goes it, Cheetah?

[Cheetah]

Not very well I have to say. Someone sank my fleet with my catapults on it. :clown:

[Privateerkev]

Not very well I have to say. Someone sank my fleet with my catapults on it. :clown:

:evil:

Well, technically, it was accidentally a team effort... :2thumbsup:

[Cheetah]

The villains will technically and accidentally pay for it. :clown:

[Zim]

When will such payment occur? :clown:

[Cheetah]

As soon as the circumstances permit the delivery. ~;)

[Zim]

I just wanted to know if you had a chance to play the save yet. :clown:


As soon as the circumstances permit the delivery. ~;)

[Cheetah]

I know, I know. :clown: The last sentence holds for both situation. ~;)

BTW, already played it. Just ... :clown: .. will try it today.

[Zim]

Ok, we are approaching the 4 day mark, or double the amount of time granted per turn. I think double the limit is fair for over the holidays. Come 23:00 hours (PST) Norway will have one half of a day to get the save uploaded or provide a name for a sub. If the latter, then the sub will have an additional 24 hours to finish.

Sorry, but I have to draw a line eventually. :sweatdrop:

[Cheetah]

As I said I have already done the turn. Just cannot upload it from home. Since I was at home in the last 5 days for some reason :clown: I just could not upload it. However, I will do it today.
Sorry for the delay.

[Zim]

As long as you can get it in the next day, that's fine. :yes: But now that Christmas is over, I don't think I can allow any more 4 day turns.

[Cheetah]

I will get it today.

[Boyar Son]

I wish I could play with you guys :furious3: :furious3: :furious3:

But I'm always too late for a hotseat campaign:furious3: (and I need to know how to play one and dowload the save game....:no: )

[Zim]

Playing a hotseat game is pretty easy, with most of the work being done by the person first setting it up. :yes:

If you'd like, I could set one up for you. We'd need at least a few more players, though. Also, if someone drops out of another hotseat you can take their place.


I wish I could play with you guys :furious3: :furious3: :furious3:

But I'm always too late for a hotseat campaign:furious3: (and I need to know how to play one and dowload the save game....:no: )

[Boyar Son]

I doubt someone'll drop out...

But set one up? for me? this kind act wont be forgoten!

But who's gonna join....

[Zim]

You'd be surprised, just look how different the current players in the older Multiplayer Grand Campaign game are from the original list.

It's hard to say whether another game will fill up quickly. The current ones did. If most of the people here are in as many games as they want, it could be hard. If some aren't and/or some more players missed out on the last couple, it could be easy. Assuming it's allowed, putting a new game in the Multiplayer thread instead of here might get more people.

Which campaign interests you most? One of the Kingdom's ones, or maybe the regular Grand Campaign?

[Boyar Son]

Kingdoms. Maybe britannia. Dunno how to post a save and load one tho...

[Zim]

There's a sticky thread in the Throne Room showing where you can upload files. Just click on the link in the first post there, hit "browse" to put your save in, and upload. To download a file, his "view" there to see the list, and look for the save you need by name.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=29005

[Boyar Son]

um.. really I cant find the save just 'britannia TW' is that it?

and to download you mean click the save thats posted?

[Cheetah]

It is up! :2thumbsup:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-6-1.rar

Once again, sorry for the delay.

[Zim]

Well, there is no save yet. The game has to be set up first. :clown:

For convenience we generally post the next player's save in the OOC threads for these games.


um.. really I cant find the save just 'britannia TW' is that it?

and to download you mean click the save thats posted?

[Zim]

All done.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-6-2.zip

[Privateerkev]

Ironically, I have not been ejected from here even though I claim the same right to roleplay as I wish.

Regardless, I am out because I refuse to play with someone who refuses to communicate with me through PM's.

[Zim]

Ok, I guess we've lost a player. I'll leave the position open for a few days before turning Scotland into an AI faction.

[deguerra]

umm, while I regret PK leaving, I'd be up for Scotland.

[phonicsmonkey]

I have it

I can play it now but might not be able to upload it until later - I'm in the hotel lobby and I have to go out for a dim sum feast and boat tour of hong kong harbour shortly

sucks to be monkey!

:beam:

[Zim]

Oh, how I pity thee, Phonicsmonkey.

Or is that envy? :clown:

Anyway, I would like to welcome deguerra to the game. I can send you stuff on the diplomatic situation via pm later tonight. Of course, you can take the faction in any direction you want now. :yes:

[deguerra]

yeh cool. I am fairly up to date with the up-front diplomacy, but any update would be appreciated.

Take the faction in any direction I want ey....MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:clown:

[RoadKill]

Guess whos back?

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, here it is

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-6-3.sav

I'd just like to point out that it's 4.45am in hong kong and I've been drinking for three days solid now - never let it be said that the monkey is not committed to the game

:2thumbsup:

[Zim]

Welcome back, Roadkill. You only missed one turn, in which nothing really happened in Wales. The war between the Norse and Ireland, Scotland, and England has solidified a bit. However, with the entry of a new Scottish player, deguerra, I suppose that could change. :yes:

I take it the laptop idea of yours worked out, Phonicsmonkey? :beam:

P.S. deguerra has now been notified via pm of everything he needs to know to play Scotland. :thumbsup:

[gibsonsg91921]

Dang, I would have taken it if deguerra hadn't.

[deguerra]

well I'll keep you in mind as a sub, and/or if I run out of steam, ok?:2thumbsup:

[gibsonsg91921]

nice!

[deguerra]

no worries :D

just like to ask which number Scotland is. Ive downloaded the save and figured out that its currently Wales' turn, but thats about it.

[Zim]

no worries :D

just like to ask which number Scotland is. Ive downloaded the save and figured out that its currently Wales' turn, but thats about it.

You'll be next. Scotland has turn #4. :yes:

[Cheetah]

So?

[Zim]

So..... ~;)

I'll send Roadkill a pm right away. He probably didn't notice it was his turn.

Since it seems to be working well in the Grand Campaign game I think from here on in we'll pm the next person in line when a save goes up. :yes:


So?

[Cheetah]

Fine with me. Also, we could switch to 24 hrs deadline IMO. It works in the grand campaign.

[RoadKill]

Done, but the forum wont let me post the link again so the next in line is gonna have to ravage through the uploader

[phonicsmonkey]

hey, I'll definitely pm the next guy in line from now on

but although I haven't taken longer than 24 hrs to play a turn so far, I think it would be challenging for me in some circumstances - can we stick to 48?

I think I've shown my commitment by playing my turn while on holiday in hong kong...

[deguerra]

think im the next guy, for future reference, roadkill. will do mine later today

[Zim]

The main reason the turn limit is so short in the other game is that with 17 players, we have to work hard to keep things moving. Since most players here are pretty quick, but at least one would have difficulty with a 24 hour limit, I think we can get by with the old 48 hour one. Since we're pming the next plyer in line, things should go quicker. :yes:

[deguerra]

sorry I took a while, Norway (Cheetah) is up:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-6-5.rar

I'll PM him as well

[Cheetah]

I will upload the save today.

[Cheetah]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-7-1.rar

It is up.

[Zim]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-7-2.zip

Ireland's up.

[phonicsmonkey]

wales is next

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-7-3.zip

[phonicsmonkey]

by the way, did everyone get sick of using the council / story threads, or is there just nothing to say right now?

I was enjoying them but I won't post again until somebody else does...

[deguerra]

:beam: my bad, I haven't even looked at them in ages. I suppose with all-out war declared, theres not that much to say at the moment.

[Zim]

I think the war kind of stopped people from making any more statements.

[RoadKill]

Save upload, once again my stupid internet won't let me upload link so next person in line is gonna have to ravage it through the uploader. Sorry but I don't really know why it won't let me post it.

[phonicsmonkey]

Hi roadkill - what browser are you using?

usuing firefox, after I upload the save I hit the "View" button on the uploader screen which takes me to the list of uploaded files

then I find the file I just uploaded, right-click on it and choose "Copy Link Location" (I think in IE the equivalent is "Copy Shortcut")

then I just right click in my post here and paste the link...

sorry if you tried this already, just trying to help out

:2thumbsup:

[Zim]

Here it is. Don't forget to zip the files, we could get in trouble otherwise. :sweatdrop:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-7-4.sav

[deguerra]

ok, i'll keep in mind that roadkill can't upload, but could you PM me from now on Roadkill? Thanks.

Will get onto it when I get home from work (about 2 hours)

[deguerra]

Norway is up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-7-5.rar

Will PM Cheetah.

[Cheetah]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-8-1.rar

England is up.

[Zim]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-8-2.zip

Ireland is up.

[phonicsmonkey]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-8-3.zip

wales, get to it

[Zim]

Ok, it's been five days now. I don't want to skip a turn. Is anyone allied with Wales that can sub? As his nearest and largest neighbor I'm not sure it would be proper for me to do it.

[phonicsmonkey]

I am allied with him but I feel uncomfortable subbing as it would give me a look at his settlements and armies...

I will do it though if the GM wants me to and we can't find a disinterested party to do the job

[phonicsmonkey]

sorry to double-post but I just had a bright idea - Zim, why don't you check the recruitment thread and pm a couple of the guys from there who said they wanted to play hotseat games?

[Zim]

Ok, I'll see if deguerra can do it, and also check the recruitment thread. I'll pm Roadkill too in case he can get to it before it's subbed.

That's a good idea, checking the recruitment thread. Hopefully someone there doesn't mind just playing one turn.

Worst comes to worst, I can do it.

[deguerra]

I'd be happy to sub, just let me know

[deguerra]

right. norway is up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-8-5.rar

Will PM Cheetah as well.

Roadkill, I didn't do much, just made some building orders really.

edit: DAMNIT I KEEP FORGETTING THIS. Zim could you please let me know the rules regarding adoption in both this and the grand campaign game? thanks

[Zim]

There aren't any. Adopt as many or few generals as you wish. :yes: A no adoption rule would be almost impossible to enforce and I don't really think it will unbalance the game. Besides, it's not even really an exploit.


right. norway is up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-8-5.rar

Will PM Cheetah as well.

Roadkill, I didn't do much, just made some building orders really.

edit: DAMNIT I KEEP FORGETTING THIS. Zim could you please let me know the rules regarding adoption in both this and the grand campaign game? thanks

[deguerra]

good good (Y). I've been getting a few candiates as Scotland, because I've got many more provinces than generals. But that being said I like to wait for really good ones, and even then I try to keep the family tree as pure as poosible :P

[Cheetah]

I will upload it today.

[Cheetah]

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-9-1.rar

It is up.

[deguerra]

Good work cheetah, I am glad you are capable enough to keep this war interesting :D

Just as a heads up guys, I will be gone for about 3 weeks in a week. I am going houseboating from next monday til friday. I will be there for the weekend and am them going to visit family in Germany for 2 weeks. As there are so few players in this hotseat I figure that will mean missing a few turns at least, so some sort of long-term sub would be good. Any ideas as to whom?

[phonicsmonkey]

there's a chap in the hotseat recruitment thread who was interested in getting involved - letting him sub for you would be a good way to blood a new hotseat player

alternatively you could approach somebody in one of the other hotseats and see if they have time to take on a new one for a few weeks

[deguerra]

Yeh I was thinking of him as well. May PM him sometime today

[Zim]

Sounds good to me. I was talking to him a bit about the Grand Campaign game, in which Ignoramus may or may not be able to continue (Ignoramus is going to take a shot at seeing if at least the campaign map will play on his family's older computer). I think he'd be a good sub.

If he's not able Boyar's Son has also expressed interest in subbing or playing a hotseat game.

I'd start a new one but I think I have too many already. :clown:

[deguerra]

feel free to ask him Zim, otherwise I will contact him sometime this week

[Zim]

Ok, I sent him a pm, and forwarded it to you. :beam:

[Zim]

Finished my turn, should be able to get the save uploaded in a few hours.

[Zim]

New save up.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-9-2.zip

Lesson learned: Cavalry, even knights, really suck in autocalc. I fought a battle against a Norse army with 2:1 odds in my favor, and if it weren't for friendly fire on the part of Norway's force, losses on both sides would have been even.

[phonicsmonkey]

here's the save, wales is next

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/Britannia-9-3.zip

I pm'd roadkill...but is he around or do we need a sub?

[Zim]

Sorry for the...wow, quadruple post, but I wanted to bring something up. In the Grand Campaign hotseat, we decided that it was ok to do the surround and destroy thing to agents, because it is hard to enforce a ban on it and it seemed to be realistic for a whole army to search out and capture a spy or assassin.

Recalling this I used the tactic to take out a spy, only realizing after that we hadn't talked about it in this game.

Is everyone ok with this? I can use the console to bring back the spy, I think.

[phonicsmonkey]

ha ha, I ruined your quadruple post attempt

I think it's a bit cheesy but I'll go with it if other people want to use it - and considering it has already happened probably best just to leave it legal

[Zim]

Curses, all I have is a triple post now. :clown:

Those are my thoughts. I allowed it in the other game because almost everyone (who said anything) wanted to.

Edit: Just out of curiosity what events in Australia does your sig refer to?

[Zim]

Roadkill is around, but has trouble sometimes getting to his turns. I'm not really sure what his situation is regarding internet access.

[phonicsmonkey]

sorry, very culturally specific of me, I forget that cricket is of zero interest to much of the world...

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/story/0,,2236891,00.html

the Indian PR people were claiming that harbhajan had in fact said "maan ki" which means "your mother"

[Zim]

They're burning effigies over it? :clown:

I find it amusing that "your mother" is less offensive than the racial slur. I might actually be angrier if that's what I thought someone said to me. :clown: