Re: Greek place/tribe names
[QUOTE=Laevex]
Thrace = Thraikia
Thracians = Thraikes (plural)
Thracian (n.) = Thraix (singular)
Thracian (adj.) = Thrakios (singular) and Thraikioi (plural)
Scythia = Skythia
Scythians = Skythai/Skythes?
Scythian (n.) = Skythes (singular)
Scythian (adj.) = Skythios/Skythikos (singular) Skythioi/Skythikoi (plural)
Seleucid Empire = Arche Seleukeia
Seleucids = Seleukeioi Seleukidai=From Seleukos
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%A3...B4%CE%B7%CF%82
Seleukideis=from Seleukeia
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%A3...B5%CF%8D%CF%82
Seleucid (n.) = Seleukid as above, Seleukides(singular)=From Seleukos and Seleukeus=From Seleukeia
Seleucid (adj.) = Seleukeios (singular)/ Seleukeioi (plural)
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Note that one of two of the above are highly contested, still they are better than nothing.
Hope I helped!
Best of luck with the AAR.
Re: Greek place/tribe names
keravnos that was better than any reply I expected! Thanks a lot.
My only other quieries are whether there are general rules. For example what is the difference between all the suffixes? (e.g. 'ai', 'oi' and 'es' in 'Skythai', 'Keltoi' and 'Thraikes'). There are so many words I don't know how to Hellenise. Such as 'Hellenic' and 'Boii', all the places and tribes I talk about need this treatment so it's a massive task. Is there any easy way of converting these words? Also the word 'empire' be useful. I understand that 'Arche' doesn't mean this does it? Or would 'Arche Getia' work?
If thiese questions are too big to answer then just say. I should probably get a 'Teach Yourself Ancient Greek' book or go have lessons. I just want to get my AAR consistent and sensible whithout using the modern English names for peoples and places. It's sort of a challenge I set myself.
Re: Greek place/tribe names
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Originally Posted by Laevex
keravnos that was better than any reply I expected! Thanks a lot.
My only other quieries are whether there are general rules. For example what is the difference between all the suffixes? (e.g. 'ai', 'oi' and 'es' in 'Skythai', 'Keltoi' and 'Thraikes'). There are so many words I don't know how to Hellenise. Such as 'Hellenic' and 'Boii', all the places and tribes I talk about need this treatment so it's a massive task. Is there any easy way of converting these words? Also the word 'empire' be useful. I understand that 'Arche' doesn't mean this does it? Or would 'Arche Getia' work?
If thiese questions are too big to answer then just say. I should probably get a 'Teach Yourself Ancient Greek' book or go have lessons. I just want to get my AAR consistent and sensible whithout using the modern English names for peoples and places. It's sort of a challenge I set myself.
The general rules you speak of are 3 clauses, and a host of irregulars to boot. It takes a long time actually, and there is NO EASY way/quickfix for them. I am sorry, but that is the truth.
Hellenic->Hellenikos(singular)/Hellenikoi(plural)
Boii->Boemios/Boemioi (from present day bohemia)
I wish there was an easy way of converting those words, but I can't think of any.
Empire=Autokratoria
For Getai I would go for "Getike Basileia" meaning "Reing of Getai".
You could go with "Getike Autokratoria" as well. Lets keep "Arche" for the Seleukidai.
Thank you for a great AAR, btw. :2thumbsup:
Re: Greek place/tribe names
Wasn't Skuthioi used for the Skythians as well?
Re: Greek place/tribe names
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Originally Posted by keravnos
Empire=Autokratoria
This is a somewhat late Greek term, probably a translation of imperium, and only really applicable to the Roman empire, or specifically to the authority of a Roman emperor; Greek doesn't really have a word for "empire", unless it is arkhe which again refers to the authority of a person or city, not to an expanse of land governed by a sovereign state.
Re: Greek place/tribe names
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Originally Posted by Tiberius Nero
Greek doesn't really have a word for "empire", unless it is arkhe which again refers to the authority of a person or city, not to an expanse of land governed by a sovereign state.
Well, we didn't name the faction the Arche Seleukeia for no reason. At least one contemporary inscription refers to the whole entity of the Seleukid Empire as both a basileia and an arche/arkhe, not just the authority, and it was the deciding factor in our naming the faction.
Re: Greek place/tribe names
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Originally Posted by Tiberius Nero
This is a somewhat late Greek term, probably a translation of imperium, and only really applicable to the Roman empire, or specifically to the authority of a Roman emperor; Greek doesn't really have a word for "empire", unless it is arkhe which again refers to the authority of a person or city, not to an expanse of land governed by a sovereign state.
Absolutely right there. However the term "Autokratoria" was coined up by the greeks to describe the latin word "imperium" from which empire sprung up. As the question was which was the greek word for empire, I had to answer. I should have posted that it wasn't really used in our timeline, and only really started being used at about the time of Augustus, which is the end of EB.
Thank you, I stand corrected. :yes:
Re: Greek place/tribe names
Thanks for the really useful advice.
My AAR will be as ammended as possible now.
If any of you happen to see a mistake (I will make them for sure) then just tell me and I will try my best to correct it.
