Koinon Hellenon Victory Conditions

Playing 1.1
In another thread this was addressed but there was only one response. I am looking for confirmation. KH VC; script or map?

For KH, the Overview victory conditions map doesn't match the script victory conditions you get when you click "?". The script lists a modest number of cities and those cities get outlined on the campaign map.

Is this the real victory conditions (those 16 cities + destroying Mak and Epeiros) or do I follow the map?

The script is the only truth in the EB world.

Ignore both I say, use the "Koinon Hellenon Victory Conditions" trait your faction leader has.

The only way to be really certain is by checking the EBBS_script.txt

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Originally Posted by Hax

The only way to be really certain is by checking the EBBS_script.txt

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Is this true for EB 1.2 as well? The "KH Victory Conditions" for the FL seems to match the highlighted cities when you click "?". Or does the EBBS_script.txt take precedence (and where exactly is it located)? Thanks.

In that case, it's most likely correct. To be sure, do check the EBBS.

Why stop there? Go for the entire world!

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Originally Posted by Hax

The only way to be really certain is by checking the EBBS_script.txt

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Sorry to be dumb, but where exactly is this file? There's an EBBS_script folder (6,972 MB or something) but I can't find the EBBS_script.txt, or wherever the victory conditions are supposed to be. Thanks

.../data/scripts/show_me/EBBS_SCRIPT.txt

Thanks Hax. I presume this is the one for KH:

";--------------------------
; KOINON HELLENON
;--------------------------
monitor_event CharacterTurnStart FactionType greek_cities
and CharacterIsLocal
and I_NumberOfSettlements macedon = 0
and I_NumberOfSettlements thrace = 0
and I_SettlementOwner Arse = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Emporion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Massalia = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Karali = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Lilibeo = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Messana = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Syracuse = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Arpi = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Capua = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Taras = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Rhegion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Apollonia = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Pella = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Demetrias = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Thermon = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Athenai = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Chalkis = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Mytilene = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Korinthos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Sparte = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Kydonia = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Rhodos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Salamis = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Byzantion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Pergamon = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Sardis = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Halikarnassos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Kyrene = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Chersonesos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Pantikapaion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Sinope = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Trapezous = greek_cities
and I_CompareCounter victory = 0

console_command create_building Terhazza hinterland_victory

console_command victory greek_cities

terminate_monitor
end_monitor"

You'll notice that Karali is mentioned, but I didn't hold it at game's end. Check out these thumbnails:

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Originally Posted by Jive

Thanks Hax. I presume this is the one for KH:

";--------------------------
; KOINON HELLENON
;--------------------------
monitor_event CharacterTurnStart FactionType greek_cities
and CharacterIsLocal
and I_NumberOfSettlements macedon = 0
and I_NumberOfSettlements thrace = 0
and I_SettlementOwner Arse = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Emporion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Massalia = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Karali = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Lilibeo = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Messana = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Syracuse = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Arpi = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Capua = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Taras = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Rhegion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Apollonia = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Pella = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Demetrias = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Thermon = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Athenai = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Chalkis = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Mytilene = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Korinthos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Sparte = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Kydonia = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Rhodos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Salamis = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Byzantion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Pergamon = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Sardis = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Halikarnassos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Kyrene = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Chersonesos = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Pantikapaion = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Sinope = greek_cities
and I_SettlementOwner Trapezous = greek_cities
and I_CompareCounter victory = 0

console_command create_building Terhazza hinterland_victory

console_command victory greek_cities

terminate_monitor
end_monitor"

You'll notice that Karali is mentioned, but I didn't hold it at game's end. Check out these thumbnails:

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I have the similar question. I have finished several carthage campaigns and achieved victory screen. In all of these campaigns, I didn't capture sidon which is required for carthage victory in EBBS_txt. So I wonder how can one be certain of the faction objectives exactly.

I forgot which version of EB I was playing but a while back, I got very surprised when the VC screen popped up and I only conquered thrace,epirus and macedonia.

Thanks guys. Checked the Faction Leader to make sure; he also says Karali is an objective. This is a puzzler, but I suppose it adds a little to the mystery of the game. Sorta like an Arapaho (Navajo?) blanket--there was always a little imperfection somewhere to demonstrate the impossibility of perfection.