What would you sell?

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02-28-2009, 15:47
Polemists

What would you sell?

So we all have seen the starting map and regions and read 3-4 campaign previews (Ottomans, Sweden, and Austria)

One mechanic the AI seems to use this time around, is appeasment. Where as before all tributes meant was maybe you don't get attacked this turn, now they seem to lead to alliances, technologies, cities and tangible benefits.

So whether it's a situation like with Austria where the Ally swoops down to save you from military invasion or something like Sweden where you are given technologies that propel you forward.

What would you give up/sell to move your nation forward?

A city?
A army?
A technology?

Feel free to be as loose or specific as you want, and as always give your reasons :)
02-28-2009, 16:18
Lemur

Re: What would you sell?

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Originally Posted by Polemists

So we all have seen the starting map and regions and read 3-4 campaign previews (Ottomans, Sweden, and Austria)

Okay, I've seen the Swedish campaign report stickied at the top of this page, and the Prussian just got linked, but I haven't seen Austria and the Ottomans. Directions, please?
02-28-2009, 22:18
Fisherking

Re: What would you sell?

Remember next time you can make your poll multiple choice. I would give different thing depending on the situation and benefits.
02-28-2009, 22:21
Sir Beane

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I can't pick any one thing so I voted Gah! :tongue: But I'd be prepared to sell all those things if the price and situation were right.
02-28-2009, 23:39
Monk

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Okay, I've seen the Swedish campaign report stickied at the top of this page, and the Prussian just got linked, but I haven't seen Austria and the Ottomans. Directions, please?

I believe there was an Ottoman recap posted on TWC a few weeks back, i've lost the link however. It wasn't a CA posted report, it was one that a reviewer posted IIRC and got copy+pasted.
03-01-2009, 01:06
Monk

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For any interested the second Prussian report installment has been posted. Looks like he's going more write up with less Q+A, it's still a good read! head on over to Yuku if you're interested!
03-01-2009, 02:04
peacemaker

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Well, normally if I had a colony I would neglect it, so....I'd give that up in a heartbeat given the fact that I probably won't have one anyway.
03-01-2009, 03:29
Ishmael

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I went technology, especially if you're going for an alliance-you lose nothing, and you help your ally tech up-win win!
Course, if I had a little festering colony somewhere I wouldn't hesitate to give it up.
03-01-2009, 03:40
A Very Super Market

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But your allies will be able to backstab you more efficiently if you give them tech...
03-01-2009, 05:34
Polemists

Re: What would you sell?

Austria=Prussia my bad, in guides.

And yes Ottoman campaign guide is at alot of sites. It was posted by a turkish site and has been translated elsewhere, including TW forum center.

I think for me, I'd probably give up everything but a city..i'd just rather lose it in battle then give it up..even if it cost me.
03-01-2009, 06:14
Monk

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Originally Posted by Polemists

Austria=Prussia my bad, in guides.

And yes Ottoman campaign guide is at alot of sites. It was posted by a turkish site and has been translated elsewhere, including TW forum center.

I think for me, I'd probably give up everything but a city..i'd just rather lose it in battle then give it up..even if it cost me.

I would give up techs and money but never a city. Only if I could get something really good back for that city would i consider trading it, like military techs or an alliance.
03-01-2009, 07:25
Polemists

Re: What would you sell?

I guess if it was vital sure.

Still I'd rather give up a few provinces in the Colonies before any of my main euro cities.

That's the reason I'm partially tempted to capture something in India or North America, not cause I want to stay there, but just so I have a bargaining chip later down the line.
03-01-2009, 07:29
Monk

Re: What would you sell?

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Originally Posted by Polemists

I guess if it was vital sure.

Still I'd rather give up a few provinces in the Colonies before any of my main euro cities.

That's the reason I'm partially tempted to capture something in India or North America, not cause I want to stay there, but just so I have a bargaining chip later down the line.

Good point, colonies might provide that ace in the hole when you are in desperate need of an alliance, or new techs. The Prussian Report has me very anxious about ETW, especially with all the diplomatic manoeuvrings that is seemingly to be had!

I believe territory is probably the most valuable commodity to be had, and I think the AI thinks that way too. Your plan could very well be sound, Polemists! :yes:
03-01-2009, 07:45
A Very Super Market

Re: What would you sell?

Where is the option "Your body"?

Aren't there factions with only one city on Europe? Colonies would have to be the main territory trade things.
03-01-2009, 11:25
Sir Beane

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I sometimes take cities specifically so I can trade them in for better ones, or use them to get a really good alliance or trade deal. Just take somehwere you don't want or need and then use it as a big shiny bargaining chip :2thumbsup:.
03-01-2009, 11:54
Polemists

Re: What would you sell?

Which makes me ponder what to take..

I really want the Carribean for my own, so that's out.

India if I can take something I'd sell, only because I doubt I can hold a hindu, muslim nation for very long.

North America is tempting but a real fighting ground and i'm not sure I could get that many troops over.

Maybe something in the ivory coast..or another trade route.....hmm.

I guess the most susceptible nation to strike is spain...but early on I fear spain's reltation would be unkind :laugh4:
03-01-2009, 11:56
Sir Beane

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Originally Posted by Polemists

Which makes me ponder what to take..

I really want the Carribean for my own, so that's out.

India if I can take something I'd sell, only because I doubt I can hold a hindu, muslim nation for very long.

North America is tempting but a real fighting ground and i'm not sure I could get that many troops over.

Maybe something in the ivory coast..or another trade route.....hmm.

I guess the most susceptible nation to strike is spain...but early on I fear spain's reltation would be unkind :laugh4:

Take France, then sell it to Savoy or some other tiny faction. They'll thank you later :2thumbsup:.

Try taking and selling Iceland, or some of the North African provinces. Or maybe some Central American ones.
03-01-2009, 12:02
Greyblades

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If I took france it would be too valauable to even consider trading. It would be a testiment to the fact that im not messed with.
03-01-2009, 12:04
Sir Beane

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Originally Posted by Greyblades

If I took france it would be too valauable to even consider trading

Imagine how much trouble it could cause you in the form of rebellions and uprisings though. You might find you can't spare the peace-keeping forces and need to get rid of it fast.

Plus its full of French people. :clown:
03-01-2009, 12:04
Polemists

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Somehow I don't think France is going to be much of a push over in this time frame......i'd keep your eyes on Corsica.
03-01-2009, 12:08
Sir Beane

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Originally Posted by Polemists

Somehow I don't think France is going to be much of a push over in this time frame......i'd keep your eyes on Corsica.

If they don't go over you just aren't pushing hard enough :tongue:.

I'm not sure whether or not to try and hold North America. Seems like India is safer and more lucrative...
03-01-2009, 12:10
Polemists

Re: What would you sell?

You know what I wonder.

If you conquer say England, France or Spain in Europe.

Do they keep the colonies?

Do you get thier colonies?

Do they instantly rebel?

Do they become a emergent faction?

Or does the legacy of of the nation carry on in the other territories?
03-01-2009, 12:11
Greyblades

Re: What would you sell?

Just remember; North America became host to the powerfullest contry in the world, India didnt.

^Most colonies would probably become hell-bent on retaking their homeland or die trying.
03-01-2009, 17:52
Beskar

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Originally Posted by Sir Beane

Plus its full of French people. :clown:

*sells France to Sir Beane for that reason*

Being honest, not sure what I would sell. If I was going to sell anything, it might be some troops I would be getting rid of anyway. For example, in Rome:Total War, I made some units just to garrison cities at different settlement populations, so selling them would be fine.

Probably the only thing I would sell is resources/money, or possibly attack on a nation, if that attack can serve in my interest if they are a minor nation which means nothing in the grand scale of things.

If I was going to sell a province, it would have to be a province I don't want. For example, if I was Britain and i ended up with a province in the middle of Europe due to a war where I had to conquer some one. Instead of trying to invest into it and possible allow it to be the target of others. I could possibly sell it to a nearby nation which is in Alliance with myself to keep/gain support with them for my advantage.