MRE's for ME

Alright so here is the scenario. I'm seventeen years old and a serious athlete. I swim and play football competitively and the year i graduate high school i am probably going to go to college with a scolarship for either one. (sorry if this sounds obnoxious). Well im about 187 and 6'2. I need to gain some weight over this summer, preferably around 15-20 pounds. So i workout religiously and can bench 225 lbs. 11 times, squat 425 lbs., and hang clean 215 lbs., and my forty yard dash is 4.6 seconds. Sorry for all the background information but its actually important. Now my numbers are fine for a high division three school or a d2 school but id like division one (the big boys). I have begun getting calls from coaches and when they hear my weight they are a little disappointed. So obviously i need some more weight. since hgh is not on my list (i like my personal property man sized thank you) and creatine is a sham i think im gonna take a high whey, high carbohydrate diet and i read that mres contain double the normal amount of carbs and nutrients. So i figure i might as well get a head start on my eating habits (im gonna serve like everyone in my family after college) and supplement my diet with these.

So any thoughts suggestions, alterations, please i want to see if there are any other options or if this is a good course to take (sorry for all the statistics above)

dang, you are in amazing shape... im 17 as well and doing only 2/3 of what you are doing...
pity i cant think of anything else to gain weight other than lift more weights, drink protein shakes, and eat pie.

Seems to me that Strike or Swordmaster would be the people to talk to ...

What's your daily calorie intake?

What position do you play?

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Seems to me that Strike or Swordmaster would be the people to talk to ...

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Where is that eatin' machine when you need him?

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

Alright so here is the scenario. I'm seventeen years old and a serious athlete. I swim and play football competitively and the year i graduate high school i am probably going to go to college with a scolarship for either one. (sorry if this sounds obnoxious). Well im about 187 and 6'2. I need to gain some weight over this summer, preferably around 15-20 pounds. So i workout religiously and can bench 225 lbs. 11 times, squat 425 lbs., and hang clean 215 lbs., and my forty yard dash is 4.6 seconds. Sorry for all the background information but its actually important. Now my numbers are fine for a high division three school or a d2 school but id like division one (the big boys). I have begun getting calls from coaches and when they hear my weight they are a little disappointed. So obviously i need some more weight. since hgh is not on my list (i like my personal property man sized thank you) and creatine is a sham i think im gonna take a high whey, high carbohydrate diet and i read that mres contain double the normal amount of carbs and nutrients. So i figure i might as well get a head start on my eating habits (im gonna serve like everyone in my family after college) and supplement my diet with these.

So any thoughts suggestions, alterations, please i want to see if there are any other options or if this is a good course to take (sorry for all the statistics above)

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Built for Football and swimming? Must be in shape tbh. I used to swim but decided if I wasn't going to make it past county or into nationals there was no point.

Anyway back to the point, sounds like your on the right track for putting weight on, just make sure you keep you diet clean whilst putting on weight. Big difference between putting on weight through extra calories and putting on weight by eating c***.

BTW I take it if you intend to put on weight (even if it's muscle) you're gearing yourself towards that football scholarship. Someone I used to swim with played football and rugby. After he seriously put on muscle from rugby though all his times started to slow down. Your probably aware of this though.

Anyway good luck with adding the weight.

Personally, when training up for weight gain I recommend 2 things, a whey shake or 2 after workouts and a big plate of pasta and meat a couple of hours before them.

Yeah tibilicus, i am a little better at swimming but im not really feeling it anymore. And swordmaster, i use high whey protein shakes now. (not sure what its are called but i get like a gallon jug of powder which costs around 35-40 bucks at the navy exchange). A drink before my morning run and before my workout. I also eat pasta like you said as a coach once told me that it was high in carbohydrates. My diet isnt crap, i mean i eat crap sometimes (okay maybe alot :sweatdrop:) but i do have a relatively good blend of food. Recently however ive been eating more meat and laying off the veggies as much, which is actually pretty hard for me. Someone asked what my calorie intake is per day and id have to say around 5000 a day (not exactly sure) off season and around 5500 during my two seasons. I mean not Michael Phelps but its ok. I figure with further supplementation i want to reach 7500 calories a day. Our schools trainer said that as long as i maintain my current exercise routine(like 2 hours during school year and 3 during summer every day) i shouldn't get pudgy.

Oh and i play outside linebacker, wide receiver (looking for defense at college i like dishing out damage not receiving it.)
12 sacks, 33 tackles, 4 interceptions, and 39 completions, 8 touchdowns
(not telling you the school because we uh... are in a really good conference and sorta sucked this year (yeah we got crushed 3-7 :smash:)

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

Alright so here is the scenario. I'm seventeen years old and a serious athlete. I swim and play football competitively and the year i graduate high school i am probably going to go to college with a scolarship for either one. (sorry if this sounds obnoxious). Well im about 187 and 6'2. I need to gain some weight over this summer, preferably around 15-20 pounds. So i workout religiously and can bench 225 lbs. 11 times, squat 425 lbs., and hang clean 215 lbs., and my forty yard dash is 4.6 seconds. Sorry for all the background information but its actually important. Now my numbers are fine for a high division three school or a d2 school but id like division one (the big boys). I have begun getting calls from coaches and when they hear my weight they are a little disappointed. So obviously i need some more weight. since hgh is not on my list (i like my personal property man sized thank you) and creatine is a sham i think im gonna take a high whey, high carbohydrate diet and i read that mres contain double the normal amount of carbs and nutrients. So i figure i might as well get a head start on my eating habits (im gonna serve like everyone in my family after college) and supplement my diet with these.

So any thoughts suggestions, alterations, please i want to see if there are any other options or if this is a good course to take (sorry for all the statistics above)

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I'm assuming American football.

6'2 187 pounds seems ideal for a WR. I would say your numbers match some of the boys at Texas Tech(And They were a really good football team! ~;) ). What position do you play? Any D3 school probably won't give you much in the way of help like the FCS or FBS schools will. Remember college recuiting is a crapshoot and you will probably need to send tapes to schools and sell yourself. Even here in Texas (More teams than anywhere else) Good guys fall through the cracks all the time. Stay on top of things.



Don't try to get all fancy with MREs just eat, eat and eat. Then sleep. Then lift. Then eat eat eat. I had six eggs in my omlete today. Are you really trying to gain weight or are you just telling yourself you are?

I also wouldn't worry about fat intake, If you are working and trying to gain put a stick of butter in everythig and order that second peice of cake. Coaches don't care how you look just how you play. Not to mention you will look a ton better with 20lbs on your frame.


Edit: Show me your diet as it is right now. Cals and protien is all I need, everything else is a non-issue.

Current Diet

Morning
Whey Shake
Eggs (4), Sausage (3 links), Bacon 5 strips), Potatoes (half a frying pan), milk (two glasses). About two full plates. Then i have a bagel for the road.
(i eat that almost every day unless my dad makes pancakes)

Lunch One
I eat whatever the school is serving (so like a plate of fries, 2 burgers, and about half my friends food) Drink a gatorade

Lunch Two
So my second lunch is because i have a free period. The free period allows me to eat in the cafeteria. So i eat my lunch from home which is usually like two sandwiches (big twelve inchers, salami, ham, corned beef, bologna, pastrami, and whatever cheese we have), then a bowl of pasta i made the night before and Tupperwared. And im just a little boy so i have chips and a little debbies lol Oh and i only drink water cause im usually close to practice or lifting.

Snack
This is around 5 when football ends and im at home. I eat another bowl of pasta and have a whey shake again.

Dinner
Depends on what my parents make but its usually two FULL plates with, meat a guaranteed, and usually rice, pasta salad, and bread. I drink milk.
(for example last night i had an entire t-bone, 19 ounce steak, pasta, and half a loaf of french bread. Oh and a Caesar salad with a delightful vinagrette tee-hee)

I also take extra protein equaling 500 calories in totally legal vitamins

(sorry for the vagueness but ive been working on my summer diet and the school years a little hectic. The only problem with being my age is that i eat what my parents make me and they dont put up with "alternative" diets)

Sure this isnt what youre looking for but im not sure of the numbers. Id say from what you just read it is around 4900 calories. (just rummaged trhrough my fridge and pantry and read boxes)

Out of interest how are you guys managing to find the money for all this food?

I can only afford about 3000- 3500 cals worth if I eat "clean"..

Uh well im only seventeen but i imagine that my food bills arent too outrageous. We are middle class so food has never been short and there are only two kids and the other is a 13 year old girl. We also get to shop on base at the commissary so prices are lower there. To be honest im sure they are higher than most peoples but we arent going like organic or anything.

(probably why my parents want me to get an athletic or academic scholarship so badly)

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

Current Diet

Morning
Whey Shake
Eggs (4), Sausage (3 links), Bacon 5 strips), Potatoes (half a frying pan), milk (two glasses). About two full plates. Then i have a bagel for the road.
(i eat that almost every day unless my dad makes pancakes)

Lunch One
I eat whatever the school is serving (so like a plate of fries, 2 burgers, and about half my friends food) Drink a gatorade

Lunch Two
So my second lunch is because i have a free period. The free period allows me to eat in the cafeteria. So i eat my lunch from home which is usually like two sandwiches (big twelve inchers, salami, ham, corned beef, bologna, pastrami, and whatever cheese we have), then a bowl of pasta i made the night before and Tupperwared. And im just a little boy so i have chips and a little debbies lol Oh and i only drink water cause im usually close to practice or lifting.

Snack
This is around 5 when football ends and im at home. I eat another bowl of pasta and have a whey shake again.

Dinner
Depends on what my parents make but its usually two FULL plates with, meat a guaranteed, and usually rice, pasta salad, and bread. I drink milk.
(for example last night i had an entire t-bone, 19 ounce steak, pasta, and half a loaf of french bread. Oh and a Caesar salad with a delightful vinagrette tee-hee)

I also take extra protein equaling 500 calories in totally legal vitamins

(sorry for the vagueness but ive been working on my summer diet and the school years a little hectic. The only problem with being my age is that i eat what my parents make me and they dont put up with "alternative" diets)

Sure this isnt what youre looking for but im not sure of the numbers. Id say from what you just read it is around 4900 calories. (just rummaged trhrough my fridge and pantry and read boxes)

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Is this every day? You don't miss anything? For 1 week you should wake up and write down anything you put in your mouth. What kind of milk are you drinkning? What does your routine look like? Ae you doing anything else to expend precious calories?

This raises more questions than it answers, with your numbers and age it really means one of two things. 1. You are deadicated beyond belief and began lifting at a young age and the tolls of seasons of sports have not stopped you 2. You're a gentic freak who lifts really hard and what I say really doesn't matter. (jk but not really)

To have a 2.5 BW squat at 17 ( I assume) is impressive, very impressive. ESP. for someone who also swims. Because contray to popular beleif swimming isn't helping your legs squat.

The best athlete I ever knew was 5'6 166, ran a 4.3, Benched 300, Squatted 505 and Cleaned 275. He now plays Tailback at Georiga Tech. But TBH the numbers don't really mean much in football, it's all about how play on the feild. 6'2 187 running a 4.6 40 is good enough for D1 WR. I would worry more about my football skillz at this point. Keep trying to gain weight but I played with tons of guys who looked awesome on paper and couldn't hack on the feild (Not saying you can't just saying) Thousands look good in pads few can use them.

Honestly the answer is simple, Keep upping your calories until you start gaining, add butter and olive oil to EVERYthing. If thats your honest diet Everyday

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Out of interest how are you guys managing to find the money for all this food?

I can only afford about 3000- 3500 cals worth if I eat "clean"..

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Cripiling debt I eat everything, clean or not. I buy store brand stuff ummmmmm I eat everything ~;) Taste isn't the most important thing to me calories are :smash:

Well i mean my lift coach is really stringent about our squats. i just recently got that squat number. It was weird because it was a very recent jump. it actually isnt that impressive. My friend who is 3 inches shorter than me and weighs 210 can squat 505 (or more) i think. Well for milk i drink 2%. I have distinctions like i said i eat different things for dinner and i only make the same breakfast because it has become an almost ritual. I am just a very regimented person. I started lifting at age 13 and have done so religiously. i just enjoy the competition. I mean the only like solid part of my meal is the whey, and my pasta snacks. My numbers aren't even the best in my league (which is hyper competitive). Like for example on one team !5! kids went division one. Thats a very good percentage of starters. As i said i am a better defensive player and i want to play outside linebacker. I will be hitting running backs like your friend so im gonna need a little more heft. Thanks for all the tips, help. And i agree swimming doesnt improve my squat. It does improve my cardiovascular though and i believe it assisted my 40 time (which one coach told me was my strong point) Just for the record to be a GOOD d1 receiver i have been informed by University of marylands strength and conditioning coach, wake forest, uc california, and navys coaches ill need at least a 4.4!!!!


(for a taste of my league look up the name of jelani jenkins, i took that boy straight up and uh...... got wrecked) You can also look up the name Brian Westbrook, both went to top schools in my confrence.

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

Alright so here is the scenario. I'm seventeen years old and a serious athlete. I swim and play football competitively and the year i graduate high school i am probably going to go to college with a scolarship for either one. (sorry if this sounds obnoxious). Well im about 187 and 6'2. I need to gain some weight over this summer, preferably around 15-20 pounds. So i workout religiously and can bench 225 lbs. 11 times, squat 425 lbs., and hang clean 215 lbs., and my forty yard dash is 4.6 seconds. Sorry for all the background information but its actually important. Now my numbers are fine for a high division three school or a d2 school but id like division one (the big boys). I have begun getting calls from coaches and when they hear my weight they are a little disappointed. So obviously i need some more weight. since hgh is not on my list (i like my personal property man sized thank you) and creatine is a sham i think im gonna take a high whey, high carbohydrate diet and i read that mres contain double the normal amount of carbs and nutrients. So i figure i might as well get a head start on my eating habits (im gonna serve like everyone in my family after college) and supplement my diet with these.

So any thoughts suggestions, alterations, please i want to see if there are any other options or if this is a good course to take (sorry for all the statistics above)

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187lbs at 6'2" is too light for a swimmer? I was a competitive swimmer from infancy through freshman year of college, including captain in HS, and I never broke 160lbs at 6'0" while I was active. Sure, I was swimming at a D3 school, but I wasn't exactly a light-weight. 187lbs seems like it would be just fine for a swimmer of your height. If you're fit and have good technique, I don't see what weight would have to do with it. The only weight you want as a swimmer is muscle mass. Simply bulking up by itself seems like it would be counterproductive. Football is another matter, of course.

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Well i mean my lift coach is really stringent about our squats. i just recently got that squat number. It was weird because it was a very recent jump. it actually isnt that impressive. My friend who is 3 inches shorter than me and weighs 210 can squat 505 (or more) i think. Well for milk i drink 2%. I have distinctions like i said i eat different things for dinner and i only make the same breakfast because it has become an almost ritual. I am just a very regimented person. I started lifting at age 13 and have done so religiously. i just enjoy the competition. I mean the only like solid part of my meal is the whey, and my pasta snacks. My numbers aren't even the best in my league (which is hyper competitive). Like for example on one team !5! kids went division one. Thats a very good percentage of starters. As i said i am a better defensive player and i want to play outside linebacker. I will be hitting running backs like your friend so im gonna need a little more heft. Thanks for all the tips, help. And i agree swimming doesnt improve my squat. It does improve my cardiovascular though and i believe it assisted my 40 time (which one coach told me was my strong point) Just for the record to be a GOOD d1 receiver i have been informed by University of marylands strength and conditioning coach, wake forest, uc california, and navys coaches ill need at least a 4.4!!!!


(for a taste of my league look up the name of jelani jenkins, i took that boy straight up and uh...... got wrecked) You can also look up the name Brian Westbrook, both went to top schools in my confrence.

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I would like to see videos of the squats! I like impressive lifts helps my own game!

OK then yea 187 is small for a line backer.

Brian Westbrook of the Eageles?

As for the last comment bout the 40 time. That is straight up bull. Idk if the coaches were listening to you or what but the 4.4 40 is the most overinflated stat there is and anyone college coach should know that. Maybe thats why the State of Texas crushes skulls in college football.

The fastest reciver at the NFL combine clocked in at 4.3 with MANY of the guys clocking in at 4.5-6. I don't understand those comments brotha. Coaches were always more intrested in tape than paper.

They may think you're inflating so IDK.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

OK then yea 187 is small for a line backer.

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For D1, aren't most OLBs around 220-230lbs? Granted, you have some time to bulk up, especially if you redshirt the first year. Any experience as a safety? If you want to play defense, that might be your spot until you can get the weight on.

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For D1, aren't most OLBs around 220-230lbs? Granted, you have some time to bulk up, especially if you redshirt the first year. Any experience as a safety? If you want to play defense, that might be your spot until you can get the weight on.

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Tech has a guy playing OLB who is 6-3 207. He'd be at the light end of the spectrum but it wouldn't be to much of a stretch. But yes S looks like a better fit for our friend.

Yeah i meant brian westbrook of the eagles.

Nah i am more than happy with my forty time and im not really feeling the receiver spot anymore. Sure ill try to get some tape. i think my friend has a video of an older player doing like 500-something (the bar bends) so ill try to get that.

Well i mean someone said i should not look at bulking for swimming. Yeah im really losing interest in swimming it just doesn't hold the same appeal anymore. Ill switch to safety if i Have to but id rather not. I mean im only a junior in high school. I still have one more year of high school football and then lets be honest ill have a year to bulk up my college frosh year (i definitely wont be playing d1 football as a freshman). I hate switching positions, my freshman year i was a d lineman then an inside linebacker. My sophomore year i was a linebacker and our strong safety. I finally just asked my coach for outside linebacker and its been a good match for me.

Oh i don't think the coaches were disbelieving of my numbers. I did an official combines so my numbers are all legit, i really think they were trying to intimidate me to improve in any way i can. and i have plenty of gametape out and sent to coaches who asked for it.

Oh and didn't Michael crabtree (of Texas tech) get something crazy like a 4.34? I also believe calving Johnson got like somewhere near there (these are the best of the best however.

The answer is in the title. Make sure you drink a lot of water or you won't poo for a week.

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Originally Posted by Centurion1

Yeah i meant brian westbrook of the eagles.

Nah i am more than happy with my forty time and im not really feeling the receiver spot anymore. Sure ill try to get some tape. i think my friend has a video of an older player doing like 500-something (the bar bends) so ill try to get that.

Well i mean someone said i should not look at bulking for swimming. Yeah im really losing interest in swimming it just doesn't hold the same appeal anymore. Ill switch to safety if i Have to but id rather not. I mean im only a junior in high school. I still have one more year of high school football and then lets be honest ill have a year to bulk up my college frosh year (i definitely wont be playing d1 football as a freshman). I hate switching positions, my freshman year i was a d lineman then an inside linebacker. My sophomore year i was a linebacker and our strong safety. I finally just asked my coach for outside linebacker and its been a good match for me.

Oh i don't think the coaches were disbelieving of my numbers. I did an official combines so my numbers are all legit, i really think they were trying to intimidate me to improve in any way i can. and i have plenty of gametape out and sent to coaches who asked for it.

Oh and didn't Michael crabtree (of Texas tech) get something crazy like a 4.34? I also believe calving Johnson got like somewhere near there (these are the best of the best however.

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Crabtree didn't run.....And he was excpected to get a 4.5 tops.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers Those are the times for all the guys. You would be the second fastest LB in the NFL combine this year.

Honestly with your stats you should be on Rivals lol. But srsly you have a NFL type saftey body. Already.

You are GOOD at football right:laugh4:

Oh duh of course im good (not to sound inflated). i have been getting calls from d1 coaches. I do think they want me to switch to safety but i really dont want to. Im just not that good at the spot. id rather play d2 linebacker than d1 safety (may sound weird but its true). when coaches call me they say they like the form they saw on the film. My cousin was a division 2 player and he ran a 4.5???? I have a kid on my team, hes pretty small but he ran a 4.51 and hes only a sophmore. i dont know i cant argue with your records but i know ive seen faster times than that. see the thing is i think i may lose a little speed off my 40 with the weight increase. yeah i know about as long as its muscle blah blah blah, but thats a pretty sudden weight gain over a couple of months and i think ill be a little awkward. Oh and correction i got retimed for the 40 by my coach and i only got a 4.6 We ran it 4 times too so i think the first time was a lucky fluke (maybe a good start which ive literally seen shave a second off your time)

Do you play in Baltimore County? Or Annapolis?

Just curious. I played football & lacrosse at Archbishop Spalding in the Catholic League and you are mentioning U of M and Navy so it makes me wonder.

Wahington area. i play in the wcac, we ironically played bishop spalding i think, arent you guys in Baltimore????

Whoa, I go to the University of Maryland. You should come here to play cornerback or wideout.

do you play football at the university of maryland??? I liked your coach, isnt and i really liked your defensive coordinator he was an awesome linebacker in his day i think

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do you play football at the university of maryland??? I liked your coach, isnt and i really liked your defensive coordinator he was an awesome linebacker in his day i think

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I'm way, way too light for football. I can't get above 170 lbs. easily. I know members of the football team though.

My preferred activity is Parkour.

Yeah ive been thinking about maryland and ive been getting some calls. But i honestly am interested in going out of state (especially if the i get a sports scholarship). Im originally from san diego, california so im not really all that into maryland. Ive been looking at USF, Texas A&M, Cornell (im not a muscle bound automaton), and alot of the UC schools.

Oh looked up parkour, uh woooowowowow, not really weird but its a pretty crazy "sport" from the pictures i saw

If you ever come to Maryland, PM me, I'll tell you where we meet.