So how will the US respond?
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So how will the US respond?
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Harsh words for the killers, condolences to the families that suffered losses, and a few drone strikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherking
This being the run up to election, do you think the Ds can get off that easy without it hurting their chances?
I know yesterday there had already been some sniping. With one killed it was tragic. This brings it to a whole new level.
The new level being drone strikes in Libya. More people are going to be killed but it won't have a strong effect on the election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherking
there wont be Drone strikes - who would the US bomb?
The Libyan Government didn't support the so called Militamen and in fact tried to stop them, bombing them would be a diplomatic nightmare.
The US will demand the heads of the Militamen (rightfully so) and it will be the reactions of the Libyan government which will determine what happens next
If they crack down and capture/kill the Militia responsible then the US probably wont do anything - if they drag their heels or do nothing then they are going to find themselves in a lot of diplomatic problems... and then the US may consider a Military response
We should learn in a few hours. I don’t think the administration can sit on it.
One view on the matter.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...at-does-he-do/
All I can see him doing is him boosting US security in embassies in predominantly Muslim nations. I mean, there really isnt much more that he can do besides demand that the leaders bring whoever did this to justice.
Also, the Muslim world needs to chill out. Seriously.
I doubt the political will exists anymore for any military action in Libya. The disappointment with the results of the intervention before preclude the possiblity of a second, methinks.
lol Obama has has condemnded the attacks. It isn't very nice aparantly.
OK, seriously, what are you smoking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
Drone strikes against a US ally? How do you think that would go down with other allies?
That isn't going to happen, the most proactive thing the US can do is offer to send CIA/FBI bods in to "assist with the investigation".
Ask PakistanQuote:
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
Or rather, don't ask, just do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catiline
Indeed
Dont ask, dont tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvg
Yemen, Pakistan...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
Ibid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
All of this talk of force assumes we have good intel, which is news to me. Note that overwhelming force without good intel looks a lot like this.
Anyway, here's the trailer for the film that caused the riots and assassinations. Looks like a substandard student film, honestly. Haven't angry rural subliterate mobs heard of the Streisand Effect?
Obvious and clumsy use of greenscreen, badly dubbed sound ... the people involved in this should have their creative license suspended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntgzoE7rU9A
What he should do? Help the authorities and normal Muslim to helps spread moderate believe and help counter extremism, especially the violent kind. Also try to help young people in the US who are vulnerable to extremists seeking them out. It might not provide a feeling of sweet vengeance but the only way to improve the situation. Violence has proven not to work, something that even children could predict, and is only detrimental. Unless you want to commit the largest genocide of yet, violence will not work. Of course trying to help who was responsible, by sending over some detectives wouldn't hurt.
Expanding the usage of drones will not only help you lose your last Muslim allies, likely many more will quit. And let's be honest most aren't really that into the way the US of A's military has been operating, nor been that supportive of most of the USA's military interventions.
Edit: also how difficult is it to make at least a somewhat comprehensible and coherent trailer? I understand acting might be not on par with professionals, nor will a script be as good. But at least make a trailer be more than just complete randomness.
Think about it though.... a world without muslims... but yeah, you're right. Going apeshit on Libya will accomplish nothing at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
Oh could we only bring the Arab world back to days of Polytheism. When did they only stole cattle and did little raids. But war? No, they'd just bribe you off most of the time. Also camel archers vs M1A2's would be quite a sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvg
It's not an Arab thing, it's a muslim thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
Considering how effective they are, I'd put my money on the camels in the long run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
Tricky tricky...
Seems a bit weird if USA would attack Libya, when you just got the government they have in position. But at the same time, it's not like USA to let things like this go unpunished.
I guess the bible belt is screaming for blood and crusades?
The Romney campaign seems eager to prove ... something ... with this attack. Not at all clear what he thinks he's going to score by jumping on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
Republican Mitt Romney slammed the Obama administration's handling of foreign affairs after attacks on U.S. diplomatic missions in Egypt and Libya as foreign policy pushed to the front of the presidential campaign.
Romney branded the administration's early response to the attacks as "disgraceful" in a statement the former Massachusetts governor released before confirmation that the American ambassador had been killed. [...]
Romney pounced on news of the attacks, trying to seize an opportunity to criticize President Barack Obama on an area where voters see him as a stronger leader. Polling shows Americans trust Obama more on foreign policy and national security — areas where Republicans traditionally have an edge in public opinion. [...]
Romney said in his earlier statement that he was outraged by the attacks and the administration's early response seemed to sympathize with the attackers. "It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks."
France attacked LibyaQuote:
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
He actually has a point there. I agree that our response was disgraceful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Fragony, with your history of writings things that can only be described as lunatic, coupled with what seems like an inability to understand simple facts (like with Mein kampf), you really really REALLY have to elaborate more than that when you try to make a point come across.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I love how in the statement, rather than invoking the 1st and 2nd amendments, we get a subtle condemnation of the film and filmmaker.
A guy in a country of 300 million people made a bad film that hurt someones feelings. So, change the channel, retards. Using this justification, all of Egypt should burn because the Egyptian restaurant in Houston gave me diarrhea.
Sorry but it's trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
I must be blind, I'm not seeing the mention of the filmmaker, even in passing. Help me out here. Here's the text of the two statements, one by President 44, one by SecState.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
Ok, see. When normal people are asked to elaborate, they don't add that what they said is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I am trying to make you understand why it's very VERY hard to take what you write seriously. You have some good, if uncomfortable, points at times, I grant you that. However, as long as you keep debating like a pre-schooler you will find that very few bother to listen to what you say, no matter if you are right or wrong.