Why Does Australia Get To have an Anti-Gay Prime Minister and an Interment Camp?

Yet no one wants to bring ol'redhead up on crimes against humanity?

Grandstanding worthy of Snowden

She is an atheist too.

She isn't so much anti gay as anti marriage. She lives with her defacto husband.

One of her key ministers is the Deputy Leader in the Senate Penny Wong. Senator Wong recently had a child with her partner Sophie Allouache.

So on that side of things it isn't a clear cut case.

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On illegal immigration. Both sides of politics are keen to plunge to the lowest common denominator.

I for one am looking at doing a double protest vote for the Greens as they are one of the few mainstream parties who have humane policies... wacko everywhere else but might as well give the joint to hippies not 'ists.

Hilariously, Strike, you are already out-of-date...

Any Aussies have any thoughts on the return of Kevin???

I, wasn't, out, of, date, when, this, was, posted.

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Hilariously, Strike, you are already out-of-date...

Any Aussies have any thoughts on the return of Kevin???

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Well it has pretty much ensured that the Libs can't take over the Senate (as I expect Kevin will increase the Labor vote by a few percent, but not enough to win the election), so we should have a Labor/Greens check in that house. That will at least do away with the worst of the Mad Monk's legislation.

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Well it has pretty much ensured that the Libs can't take over the Senate (as I expect Kevin will increase the Labor vote by a few percent, but not enough to win the election), so we should have a Labor/Greens check in that house. That will at least do away with the worst of the Mad Monk's legislation.

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minority governments are pretty unstable I cannot see the voters plumping for one a second one.

Quite a lot of voters spilt their votes between parties. One set for the local MP another for the Senate.

It can be bad if you are a moderate to have both houses being majority controlled by on party by a large margin. They start with reasonable changes then they charge off into mandates from the public to do any odd little party line trick.

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Hilariously, Strike, you are already out-of-date...

Any Aussies have any thoughts on the return of Kevin???

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We have had two labor governments for two successive terms in government. For each term Labor has replaced its Prime Minister which was elected by the Australian people (and with much help from the minor parties such as Greens and Independents). They cannot govern or manage themselves, therefore how do they manage the largest operation/business in Australia which is government. Simple answer - they dont. WE will feel the effects of this mismanagement over the next two decades, and pay for it.

Kevin is a "show pony". He was made the leader of the Labor party to win the 2007 election, he has been made leader again to restrict damage to labor party after this election. Following the election there is a strong possibilty he will be replaced again. No matter who the leader is, its the team he leads that counts. And the team has shown its worth (Zero), that wont change.

Six years of Labor = has been like watching a bad movie

Parliament: wherever you go, there you are; non-stop drama

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an yet Abbott is seen as a blue tie wearing budgie smuggler

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We have had two labor governments for two successive terms in government. For each term Labor has replaced its Prime Minister which was elected by the Australian people (and with much help from the minor parties such as Greens and Independents). They cannot govern or manage themselves, therefore how do they manage the largest operation/business in Australia which is government. Simple answer - they dont. WE will feel the effects of this mismanagement over the next two decades, and pay for it.

Kevin is a "show pony". He was made the leader of the Labor party to win the 2007 election, he has been made leader again to restrict damage to labor party after this election. Following the election there is a strong possibilty he will be replaced again. No matter who the leader is, its the team he leads that counts. And the team has shown its worth (Zero), that wont change.

Six years of Labor = has been like watching a bad movie

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This is false. Voters elect their federal representative who in turn participates in the election of their party leader and then the leader of the party who can cobble together a majority can be elected Prime Minister by the Parliament. We do not vote for party leaders, unless those leaders happen to be our representative. This is emphatically not a Presidential system. At best an argument could be made that we elect a Party, but that Party still internally decides on its leader.

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This is false. Voters elect their federal representative who in turn participates in the election of their party leader and then the leader of the party who can cobble together a majority can be elected Prime Minister by the Parliament. We do not vote for party leaders, unless those leaders happen to be our representative. This is emphatically not a Presidential system. At best an argument could be made that we elect a Party, but that Party still internally decides on its leader.

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Conversely - the party puts forward a Leader and Shadow Cabinet. In so far as we elect a party against a manifesto - we assume they will govern somewhat as advertised.

If a part has a habit of changing leaders, that should make them un-electable because you've precious little idea what you might be getting.

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Conversely - the party puts forward a Leader and Shadow Cabinet. In so far as we elect a party against a manifesto - we assume they will govern somewhat as advertised.

If a part has a habit of changing leaders, that should make them un-electable because you've precious little idea what you might be getting.

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Yet in this case the party manifesto has remained largely constant and a lot of this is little more than window dressing.

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Conversely - the party puts forward a Leader and Shadow Cabinet. In so far as we elect a party against a manifesto - we assume they will govern somewhat as advertised.

If a part has a habit of changing leaders, that should make them un-electable because you've precious little idea what you might be getting.

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it's never stopped people before so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say your incorrect here

people often like to vote for there party "we always vote for X" i dont see it's as crucial as you think

but what if anarchism...?