Der Hammer is gay

Thomas Hitzlsperger comes out of the closet, as the first high-profile player to come out since Justin Fashanu.

With Brian Clough dead and buried, it's looking quite likely that Hitzlsperger will survive. While I'm happy that society has progressed so far as to allow footballers to come out, I'm a little disappointed that he didn't come out until after he retired. While it could be as simple as him not feeling comfortable enough with his homosexuality yet, it could be a sign that the dressing room behaviour hasn't changed since medieval times. Particularly as the FA's recently hired "inclusion-guy" feels homosexuality is gross.

Still, a good day.

We had a gay guy play rugby with us and we didn't murder him, HE EVEN LIVED WITH US.

Can I get a Matthew Shepard peace prize now?

Good for him. Why is it an issue. I'd have no problem sharing a shower with a gay, that he's gay doesn't automatically mean he's attracted to you. FACT, I am probably the only orgah who can claim he shared a bed with a gay Marrocan convict on leave in a trailer.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Particularly as the FA's recently hired "inclusion-guy" feels homosexuality is gross.

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I'm not sure that's the best metric to judge gay acceptance by. I mean, I think homosexuality is gross (at least the male kind; as for the other ...), and I'm fully in favor of equality and acceptance of gays. Or maybe I'm just a closet homophobe living in denial?

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Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

I'm not sure that's the best metric to judge gay acceptance by. I mean, I think homosexuality is gross (at least the male kind; as for the other ...), and I'm fully in favor of equality and acceptance of gays.

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Same. It's just called being hetero. I really don't care if someone is gay but if I see men kissing I am all ewwwww. That is my problem though and I am not going to make it theirs. They can do what they want, but I am eewwwww, I can't help that despite not having any bad intentions.

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Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

I'm not sure that's the best metric to judge gay acceptance by. I mean, I think homosexuality is gross (at least the male kind; as for the other ...), and I'm fully in favor of equality and acceptance of gays. Or maybe I'm just a closet homophobe living in denial?

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He did put it into far more biblical language than that. Words I can't be bothered to remember, thus leading to my simple summary of "gross". It wasn't quite the Allahu-Akbar-chopofftheirheads-stuff, though.

Why it's an issue, frags? No idea. All I know is that it is a huge issue in football, as Fashanu was frozen out and bullied by Clough before eventually committing suicide.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Same. It's just called being hetero. I really don't care if someone is gay but if I see men kissing I am all ewwwww. That is my problem though and I am not going to make it theirs. They can do what they want, but I am eewwwww, I can't help that despite not having any bad intentions.

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Gotta love them lesbos though. Provided that they're not fat.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Why it's an issue, frags? No idea. All I know is that it is a huge issue in football, as Fashanu was frozen out and bullied by Clough before eventually committing suicide.

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I don't understand that either really. If I would have to make a wild guess it would be that being so intolerant towards gays is a form of homosensuality.

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Originally Posted by rvg

Gotta love them lesbos though. Provided that they're not fat.

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This is ok?

I can't rag on Mexicans but this is ok?

I mean it's not surprising the lot of you get your idea of lesbian sex from porn but this is just sad. You're a grown man, and this is what you think. This is sad.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

This is ok?

I can't rag on Mexicans but this is ok?

I mean it's not surprising the lot of you get your idea of lesbian sex from porn but this is just sad. You're a grown man, and this is what you think. This is sad.

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Reminds me of a conversation I had with someone - saying how this guy didn't "get" Lesbians.

As in - per definition - they have no interest in you.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Thomas Hitzlsperger comes out of the closet, as the first high-profile player to come out since Justin Fashanu.

With Nigel Clough dead and buried, it's looking quite likely that Hitzlsperger will survive. While I'm happy that society has progressed so far as to allow footballers to come out, I'm a little disappointed that he didn't come out until after he retired. While it could be as simple as him not feeling comfortable enough with his homosexuality yet, it could be a sign that the dressing room behaviour hasn't changed since medieval times. Particularly as the FA's recently hired "inclusion-guy" feels homosexuality is gross.

Still, a good day.

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Does anyone know who Sheffield United's caretaker manager is now that Nigel Clough is reported to be dead and buried?

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Does anyone know who Sheffield United's caretaker manager is now that Nigel Clough is reported to be dead and buried?

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Damn it! Fixed.

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Same. It's just called being hetero. I really don't care if someone is gay but if I see men kissing I am all ewwwww. That is my problem though and I am not going to make it theirs. They can do what they want, but I am eewwwww, I can't help that despite not having any bad intentions.

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I shared a flat with a gay guy for a year and what I can tell you is, that you get used to it. In the end, it is not more awkward, when the 2 people making out passionately next to you while you are making breakfast, are dudes.

Funny side note, I just realised why this guy just needs a nickname: Even for me as a native German, Hitzlsperger is not that easy to pronounce ;)

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Originally Posted by GenosseGeneral

I shared a flat with a gay guy for a year and what I can tell you is, that you get used to it. In the end, it is not more awkward, when the 2 people making out passionately next to you while you are making breakfast, are dudes.

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Probably. But I find it a bit awkward to be listening to people having passionate sex in general really, no matter their preference. I am a bit old-fashioned with some things I guess, I like discretion.

I think most of the times we are all prudes. I raise my eyebrows in distaste whoever those involved are eating eachothers faces off, it isn't restricted to the sex of the individuals involved.

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Originally Posted by Tiaexz

I think most of the times we are all prudes. I raise my eyebrows in distaste whoever they are eating their faces off, it isn't restricted to the sex of the individuals involved.

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Raising an eyebrow doesn't harm anyone no? Hardly the butterfly-effect. I just don't feel comfortable when people get too comfortable. Have some class.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

This is ok?

I can't rag on Mexicans but this is ok?

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How's that Matthew Shepard peace prize looking on the mantelpiece?

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Originally Posted by Fragony

Raising an eyebrow doesn't harm anyone no? Hardly the butterfly-effect. I just don't feel comfortable when people get too comfortable. Have some class.

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Moving the goalposts.

PDA is PDA, it has nothing to do with orientation.

With the latest revelation, I am just interested in how he got his nickname..

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

This is ok?

I can't rag on Mexicans but this is ok?

I mean it's not surprising the lot of you get your idea of lesbian sex from porn but this is just sad. You're a grown man, and this is what you think. This is sad.

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I don't believe he was being serious.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

This is ok?

I can't rag on Mexicans but this is ok?

I mean it's not surprising the lot of you get your idea of lesbian sex from porn but this is just sad. You're a grown man, and this is what you think. This is sad.

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I don't believe he was being serious.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Moving the goalposts.

PDA is PDA, it has nothing to do with orientation.

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Did I say otherwise?

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

With the latest revelation, I am just interested in how he got his nickname..

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Perhaps you should find out. :wink: