Lets show CA who all wants China: Total War!

Hey, this is the Sword of Cao Cao, leader of the revolution for China Total War. First let me outline the game idea here that we agreed upon not to long ago.

- Contrary to the name it's not just China, it focuses on China but in reality it is all of the great Oriental Warrior Nations. Something that CA has completely ignored with Mongolia and Japan being the exception.

-Factions are:

India
China
Mongolia
Japan
Korea
Siam
Burma
Vietnam
Cambodia

* On a side note China could be divided into seperate factions like Rome, i.e. The Qin, the Zhou, the Shang.

Minor Factions

Phillipines
Indonesians
Okinawans
Nepalese
Tibetans
Ainu

- Time Period

The first game would be from the Warring States perio to say, the Fall of the Jin Dynasty. The expansion would cover the Medieval/Dark Ages era of the Far East.

- Unit Variety

This is where China shines so bright. So much unit variety! Lets looks at what we can have with tihs awesome game.

Fire Oil Cabinets (basically Chinese siege flamethrowers)

Bombs, Landmines, Gunners, Rockets

Fire Lances
The many, different kinds of Indian War elephants.

Booby traps, poison dartmen, smaller but more jungle adapted elephants

Vicious headhunters and withdoctors from the jungles of Vietnam, Phillipines, and Indonesia.

The huge and armed to the teeth citadels of China and India.

The many differnet sects of fanatical Sohei, ninja, and of course the famous samurai and all of the samurai varieties from Japan!

The rather large, bristling-with-all sorts of nasty weapons, chariots of China and India!

All of the biological and chemical warfare weapons and techniques invented by the Chinese and Indians!

The famous Mongol horse archers and Chariot archers from the steppes!

- Terrain Variety

This game would have probably the biggest variety in geography than any total war game to date! Lets take a look:

The barren steppes and freezing deserts of Mongolia

The blazing deserts and jungles of India

The rainforest of Indonesia and the beaches of the Phillipines

The majestic land of China with her huge and grand cities, great citadels and rolling hills

The plains, forest and mountains of the Land of the Rising Sun

The deep dark and haunted jungles of Vietnam

- What would make this so different and grander han previous total wars?

Like I said the unit variety, the geographical variety, the huge map and exotic locations, the culture.. And the great technological revolutions in ancient China and India. You would have guns as well as explosives and chemical/biological warfare. While at the same time having melee troops, great warriors, cavalry, all that good stuff! And of course the fact that the Far East has been almost completely ignored, (with the exception of Japan and Mongolia) would finally get her worthy due. Remember the Far East is responsible for huge wars and great innovations in warfare. Dont leave them out before progressing to the gun powder age!

- Religions

Confucianism
Taoism
Buddhism
Shinto
Animist
Hindu
Islam
Christianity
Judaism

With all those different faiths, at differnet periods, can you imagine the warfare and huge impact this would have upon the game and your entire empire?

- RPG qualities

Many players have expressed want of RPG elements in the TW series, with books like Romance of the Three Kingdoms, the Hindu myths, and the legendary samurai, the far east would be the best place to stick some RPG elements!

So now that I've shown you just a little abut how great a game like this would be, (and on the .com theres another revolutionary for a game like this who has had quite some success!) what do you guys think?

It would be such a pwn

not unless its part of a broader Eurasia: Total war set between 750-1450 AD.

And just why is that necassary? We've already done Europe 2 times offical, and countless times when it comes to mods.

I'm all for it. Especially because there would be thousands of Years of History to choose from and so much Things could change while the Game. And... 1000 Elephants ~D (anybody here read this Discworld Book with "Holy Wood", dont know how it's named in English)

Just wanted to say that I'm back thanks to the glorious might of KukriKhan!

All for it.

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Originally Posted by Salazar

I'm all for it. Especially because there would be thousands of Years of History to choose from and so much Things could change while the Game. And... 1000 Elephants ~D (anybody here read this Discworld Book with "Holy Wood", dont know how it's named in English)

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My vote lies with a worldwide game... Total: Total War... but China's good.

Listen, CA are debating NTW and american civil war and MTW2, so really Imperial Total War (a combination) or MTW2 are the only options. Maybe a China Total War can come after.

american civil war??
oh, no...

eurasia: total war would be great...
the idea to have an alliance of some powerful european factions and the chinese to crush the golden horde on two fronts is really fascinating...

no no no, not civil war...

Ah, just go here

A china thingy should be europe and asia, and not just china (eurasia therefore) and north africa as well. It should really have the chinese families as well. (Ming, Song, so on)

Go China Total War!

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Originally Posted by Samurai Steve

And just why is that necassary? We've already done Europe 2 times offical, and countless times when it comes to mods.

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errr, because that's what I want..............?
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Originally Posted by Peregrine_Tergiversate

errr, because that's what I want..............?
:inquisitive:

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There's no arguing with that, gotta hand it to you. :laugh4:

I think that the best place for this idea is in a mod.

No it isnt. You read what kind of things tihs will have? Fire Oil Cabinets, Fire Lances, Landmines, Thunder Crash bombs, rediculously large scale battles? That kind of stuff requires a GAME.

I'm still for an Imperial: Total War covering the entire world...and pretty much every faction or country from 1492-1880s. The Sengukou(?) period in Japan would be going on at the exact same time as the European Nations fought over the New World and the Spice Trade...I do realise that such a game could possibly create a lot of clutter and do chaos to realism, but thats half the fun. I think different nations should have different respectability...Nations could be judged by culture/Religion/Government...and if you so choosed you could change the government at your will giving it a very civilization feeling...but at the same time a monster interface and almost unlimited possibilities, imagine the British invading Japan during their civil war period instead of invading regions in india. Anyway I'm getting ahead of myself...I'm a dreamer of sorts. :laugh4:

Anyway, if not that I'm all for a Chinese Total War...as long as there is a sequel I'll probably keep playing...unless it sucks.

There are so many who dont realize just how fun a Warring States Total War would be,it would be on a massive scale! Qin army, Han,Zhao,Wu ect., Also hordes of Steppe tribes including the Xiong Nu. Then so much more to cover.

As a southerner, no Civil War please.. barf! NTW and MTW2 would be better.

I second that! I don't care what the next sequal is...as long as it doesn't have anything to do with just the civil war...3 or 4 factions at best just sucks. Its obvious my national pride is waning, and to think 4 more months until Basic Training :whip:

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Originally Posted by The Sword of Cao Cao

Just wanted to say that I'm back thanks to the glorious might of KukriKhan!

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Since I cant edit my post as Samurai Steve, I'll make an update.

China would not just be one faction, in the first one (not my propsed expansion) which will start out in the warring states period, the Chinese factions will be:

Qin
Han
Wu
Zhao
Yan
Chu

These were the 6 contenders of Warring States China.

That is the most stupid idea i ever heard of...
there were threads like that in MY spamming times here(something like a half year) and if CA did'nt made so fore, they are not going to make.

Wait... what? Dude I dont get what your calling stupid here.

The problem I see with including the South Pacific and the whole of South East Asia is that there simply was not a high intensity of interplay between these regions during this time period. Europe/NA/Asia Minor is a frequent subject simply because, historically, there was a HIGH intensity of movement, exchange an warfare between the various cultures of those regions.

You simply can't invent that same richness and intensity of interplay between all of the cultures and factions and regions you list. The only time period where this could possibly work would be the first half of the Twentieth Century, what with European colonization, Native independence movements, and the Rampaging Japanese.

Feudal Japan worked great as a game. Warring States would be an awesome game. If someone could compile and annotate a complex history of SouthEast Asian feudal conflicts, that might work too, same with India (India could be alot of fun).

Of course, a Total War game taking place entirely on Hawai'i might be fun if the proper research could be compiled.

DA

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P.S.: As far as Amir-- the Mods let one slip through?

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Originally Posted by The Sword of Cao Cao

Wait... what? Dude I dont get what your calling stupid here.

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stupid, that people were sending this idea (not that i say its not a great idea) before half a year already, and if CA people did'nt post replies then about it, i see no reason why they would start now.
though i still think its a great idea.
but people really need to understand that if until today they ignored they will probably just keep ignoring and make a there own idea.

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Originally Posted by amir

stupid, that people were sending this idea (not that i say its not a great idea) before half a year already, and if CA people did'nt post replies then about it, i see no reason why they would start now.
though i still think its a great idea.
but people really need to understand that if until today they ignored they will probably just keep ignoring and make a there own idea.

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Even if that is true, there is no need to go around insulting people and call it 'the most stupid idea I ever heard'. Though CA probably is going to follow its own path, it is not forbidden to suggest them one.

I support the idea of a China: Total War, though one might want to limit the scale. I suggest the Warring States period. There wasn't much influence from outside then, so CA can keep the theater limited to China alone.

Hmm, though at first I didn't think much of that period (in terms of a TW game), your first post has convinced me.

I'd love to see such a game, hopefully with truly massive citadels and cities.

Crazed Rabbit

Hehe, looks like I have natural marketing skills...

And yeah, this is around the 4th times a big poll has been held to show CA just how many people want China. And there is an absolutely huge topic about it at the .com. That guy has alot of support and wants a game like tihs as much as we do!

I voted "yes" only because I would have zero interest in N:TW.

eww American Civil War? Please say no, I'd rather have another improved MTW2. So like, for ACW, all you do is line up your troops and fire? yes that was a bit exaggerated, but I'd like to keep these total war games to historic times when melee combat was still the main way of fighting and not getting lines of ppl to reload their muskets while the front lines shoot