I always build the Jupiter temples.
What advantages do the others have?
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I always build the Jupiter temples.
What advantages do the others have?
I don't think all the factions have access to all the different temples. Julii have Ceres, Bacchus and ..... one more.... Not jupiter.....
Actually, it is Jupiter and probably it's the best temple for the Julii.
Octavius, there's a temple guide here with the info you're after. I'll be adding extra data when I have some spare time, namely the stats for the priests plus what traits you can get from each temple.
Temples to Bacchus are a hoot, literally... They are known in the files behind the game as Temple_of_Fun....
Leaving a family mamber in a settlement with these temples will result in Drink and Girls VnVs turning up...
hic...my whole family were drunkards when i played the Julii...hic! ~:cheers:
*Ringo*
Once the temple guide (which is great, by the way) is fleshed out, it'll be more obvious, but the temple of Jupiter is really wonderful. It won't give any bonuses to your units, but it has a *huge* assortment of really beneficent traits that it slowly gives to any general placed in the town. You'll have brilliant, six-star, six-management, six-influence leaders at a minimum with the bigger temples.
The temples do seem to be balanced in interesting ways -- the Bruti's Mars temple, while great for your soldiers, just *destroys* your family members with its anger traits.
Any good sides to the Bacchus Temple???
hic... the wine?... hic
Except for the Scipii. Their temples are all awesome, with plenty of good points, and practically no drawbacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by TomPaine
actually, i try to build at least one version of all three temple types available to the faction. once you combine priests from all three: you've got a rather strong improvement for any general/governor. i believe, even the bachus priest is actually pretty good.
About the only good side to Bacchus is that it provides the greatest public order benefit at Pantheon level for the Julii, plus the Priest of Bacchus is a decent ancilliary.
Unfortunately the vices Bacchus temples tend to produce in governors do limit their uses: you could have a single city with a Temple to Bacchus governed by an otherwise useless leader, and everytime he gets a new Priest of Bacchus as a follower, have another leader visit and take the new priest.
Ceres isn't that much better, it does boost population growth but it then gives the weakest public order bonus of the Julii temples, so you run the risk of disorder due to squalor, etc.
Jupiter is really the only Julii temple without any flaws.
As for the Brutii and Mars, that can be handled with a similar method to the Julii and Bacchus, although the troop production benefits make them far more useful. Designate a city as a troop producer, assigning an otherwise useless governor - perhaps giving him a retinue with ancilliaries that benefit troop production - and then keep all your other leaders away! You get lots of boosted troops and most of your leaders aren't total fruitloops.
Juno and Mercury are both solid temples, with no flaws, which one you pick is a matter of preference. You perhaps don't want too many Mercury, needing to keep your income reasonable to avoid getting an excessive treasury which can gain your leaders various vices.
The Scipii have the best overall Roman temple selection in my opinion. Place Temples of Neptune where you want to build your fleets, with the side benefit of armour and weapon bonuses to troops as well. Temples of Vulcan become your equivilant to the Brutii's Mars, without messing up the governors at your main troop producing cities, and Temples of Saturn provide great generic temples, with the added benefit of armour and weapon bonuses when you hit Pantheon level.
mars doesn't make governor's loopy. it grants two characteristics -- anger and lively.
Anger is slightly bad (-1 influence, up to -2 as it progresses). Lively is one of the best virtues in the game (movement, construction, management bonuses)
priest of mars (+2 command) is also a really nice ancillary.
Rome itself never seems to have a temple of any sort. How weird is that? It should at least start with an awesome Jupiter Optimus Maximus, by Jove!
The priest from that temple is pretty good...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Insane
In the Julii campaign I just finished, I had a Bacchus, Ceres, and two Jupiter temples in my core cities (Mediolanum, Patavium, Ariminum, Aretium). I built a Ludus Magna in each and then rotated governers through them once they gained the priest for the temple in that city.
Works like a charm. Fantastic training regimen for governors.
Actually, for Jupiter, there is a vice line that actually increases population discontent along with increasing law... For cities on the borderline of happiness, a governor with this line can actually push them into the red zone...
Really? I hadn't found that one yet. Is that one of those +unrest +law effects? Still, I don't find that as bad as all those anger traits that go along with the Mars temples.
I've been meaning to mod it so the Romans have all nine of their temples, and the Greeks get all of theirs, and so on to the Barbarians and what not.
The Ceres line comes in handy in the lightly populated northern lands, where the cities are struggling to grow.
And I agree that the Scipiones have the nicest temple-line. Vulcan practically everywhere, Saturn in the farthes outposts and neptune in you navy center (Syracuse for me). I don't think Vulcan gives anger-vices.