how to make the 'bardic circle' act like an academy?
As the topic says, I want the barbarian bardic building (the upgrade of the tavern) to act like a Roman educational building. I want barbarian governors to get a few more traits and colour, and I figure listening to stories of great deeds and history all day might teach a thing or two, so while the implimentation is crude it's not as bad as, say, slapping the same trait giving properties on a sewer building. :tongueg: Besides, once I know what I am doing I plan on refining the traits the building gives to more suitable items than engineering.
Looking at BI's export_descr_character_traits I can guess how it is done: a simple copy and paste of an existing trigger and a few alterations. What I don't know is what the bardic building is called in these files. I am also unsure as to whether I could just copy and paste one of these triggers, rename it barbarian_education, change the building and then actually have it work.
Also, I'd like to know how to make night battles more likely. I've not had a single one. Perhaps making it possible for a general to do them at 2 stars instead of 3? I do like the way command stars are hard to get now, so I don't want that to change.
EDIT: You know, I should definitely also ask what half the trigger lines mean! I suppose there is a faq listing these that someone can point me to? :looks hopeful: For example, what actual in-game traits are affected by "PhilosophySkill" or "StrategySkill" or any of those other nice, generic tags. I can guess some, but unanticipated side effects are Not Pleasant and I really do not have very much time to test or trial and error my way through this. I don't want the barbarians to turn out as Romans in all but name and picture.
Re: how to make the 'bardic circle' act like an academy?
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
Looking at BI's export_descr_character_traits I can guess how it is done: a simple copy and paste of an existing trigger and a few alterations. What I don't know is what the bardic building is called in these files. I am also unsure as to whether I could just copy and paste one of these triggers, rename it barbarian_education, change the building and then actually have it work.
Yes, one way to do it is to copy the Education trait trigger and modify it. Here's an example of what you could do:
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Trigger education2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition IsGeneral
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists = bardic_circle
and CultureType barbarian
Affects Warlord 1 Chance 20
Affects TacticalSkill 1 Chance 20
Affects Noctophilia 1 Chance 10
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
Also, I'd like to know how to make night battles more likely. I've not had a single one. Perhaps making it possible for a general to do them at 2 stars instead of 3? I do like the way command stars are hard to get now, so I don't want that to change.
The above example also gives a chance of 10% to developing the ability to fight night battles after spending time in a bardic circle.
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
EDIT: You know, I should definitely also ask what half the trigger lines mean! I suppose there is a faq listing these that someone can point me to? :looks hopeful: For example, what actual in-game traits are affected by "PhilosophySkill" or "StrategySkill" or any of those other nice, generic tags. I can guess some, but unanticipated side effects are Not Pleasant and I really do not have very much time to test or trial and error my way through this. I don't want the barbarians to turn out as Romans in all but name and picture.
In order to understand what a trait does you need to look at its effects (in blue):
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Trait PhilosophySkill
Characters family
NoGoingBackLevel 1
AntiTraits Ignorance, Rational, Guardian, Idealist
Level Philosophically_Inclined
Description Philosophically_Inclined_desc
EffectsDescription Philosophically_Inclined_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Effect Management 1
Effect BribeResistance 10
Level Philosopher
Description Philosopher_desc
EffectsDescription Philosopher_effects_desc
Threshold 3
Effect Management 2
Effect BribeResistance 15
Level Abstruse_Philosopher
Description Abstruse_Philosopher_desc
EffectsDescription Abstruse_Philosopher_effects_desc
Epithet Abstruse_Philosopher_epithet_desc
Threshold 4
Effect Management 3
Effect BribeResistance 20
Re: how to make the 'bardic circle' act like an academy?
Don't forget that academies also affect ancillary generation, so if you want those effect too, look in ancillary files too.
Re: how to make the 'bardic circle' act like an academy?
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
What I don't know is what the bardic building is called in these files.
The buildings are listed with both their internal and external names in (bi\)data\text\export_descr_buildings.txt. Just search for the in-game building name and you'll find the internal name in curly brackets nearby.
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
You know, I should definitely also ask what half the trigger lines mean! I suppose there is a faq listing these that someone can point me to? :looks hopeful: For example, what actual in-game traits are affected by "PhilosophySkill" or "StrategySkill" or any of those other nice, generic tags. I can guess some, but unanticipated side effects are Not Pleasant and I really do not have very much time to test or trial and error my way through this. I don't want the barbarians to turn out as Romans in all but name and picture.
The top half of EDCT.txt lists the trait "tree" names. Each of these has one or more levels, which are given the same name in EDCT as in-game except with spaces removed (they don't have to be, in principle, but the trait authors followed this thoughtful convention universally). Handily, the effects of each level are listed right there as well.
Re: how to make the 'bardic circle' act like an academy?
I see ... I think. :gring: Time will tell if I really do, or just think I do. I did manage to get my few building edits right first time, and my rebel spawn edits, so there is hope.
Ancilleries were on my plan too, just a few steps along as they seem a little more difficult to me. I suppose that's because the text file for them looks intimidating.
Re: how to make the 'bardic circle' act like an academy?
Once you get the hang of the coding files, it isn't that hard.... It's basically a pseudocode(if you know C++). ~:)
Who knows, we might see Frog: Total War, a total Frog conversion for RTW BI. ~D
