Screwing With World History for Fun and... Well, Only Fun:

Does anyone here like really messing with world history in this game? For instance, as the Turks, I plan on (once I take the rest of Egypt, in about four or five turns) sending an emissary to England and bribing any rebel armies I find. I plan to conquer the Brittanic Isles completely by 1150, and instate a Muslim religion. That completely screws up the evolution of history as we know it, folks. ;)

Anyone else? I call these little bases "Strongholds". They hold no real purpose, but they are fun. And I guess they do help you somewhat, although they sort of split your Empire.

Fun thing to do but it's all tedious :sweatdrop:. In Total war though, history is often rewritten, for example, you'll definitely march into Constantinople well before 1453. :laugh4: Or did they occupy it before that? Just not permanently? Not sure, but I think the Byzantines lost Constantinople quite a few times (like in the Crusades?).

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Originally Posted by Crian

Fun thing to do but it's all tedious :sweatdrop:. In Total war though, history is often rewritten, for example, you'll definitely march into Constantinople well before 1453. :laugh4: Or did they occupy it before that? Just not permanently? Not sure, but I think the Byzantines lost Constantinople quite a few times (like in the Crusades?).

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The Turks assaulted Constantinople a good number of times, but only the last attempt succeeded. However, Constantinople had been taken before, during the fourth crusade, when a pretendent to the Byzantine throne promised to pay off the crusades debts if they installed him. The crusaders did so, but the newly-made emperor found that the treasury was empty. Also, he had promised to make the Byzantine Empire Catholic, something that did not fall well with his subjects, as did the Venetian influence in this affair. The crusaders lost patience, stormed the city (when installing the pretendent the sitting Emperor had not put up much of a fight) and founded the Latin Kingdom. I don't know how the city was restored to the "Byzantines", but it was, at least until the Turk took it from them permanently.

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Originally Posted by Ludens

I don't know how the city was restored to the "Byzantines", but it was, at least until the Turk took it from them permanently.

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It was basically some bunch of soldiers (around 600 men IIRC) that was close to Constantinople when most of the garnision and the ruler (Baldwin II) rode out in a campaign to fight the Bulgars (IIRC). They knew that Baldwin II wasn't exactly popular so because of some reason they decided to sneak into the city. They succeeded and it triggered a rebellion that kicked out the former garnision.
When Baldwin II came back after his campaign he found the city in enemy hands and had lost his kingdom.

It really shows the importance of walls and a loyal population inside those.

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Originally Posted by Ironside

It was basically some bunch of soldiers (around 600 men IIRC) that was close to Constantinople when most of the garnision and the ruler (Baldwin II) rode out in a campaign to fight the Bulgars (IIRC). They knew that Baldwin II wasn't exactly popular so because of some reason they decided to sneak into the city. They succeeded and it triggered a rebellion that kicked out the former garnision.
When Baldwin II came back after his campaign he found the city in enemy hands and had lost his kingdom.

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Intesting. Thanks for sharing :book: .

The Byzantine Empire split into 3 successor states after the loss of Constantinople. One of these, the Empire of Nicaea, would retake Constantinople in 1261.