Mafia IX: Triumph of the Mafia [Concluded]

The sun crept ever lower into the sky, a sign that voting for the day was nearly complete. The villagers of the Frontroom had been a lively bunch for the entire day, taking up their task with gusto and flinging around accusations like there was no tomorrow. For some of them, this would be the truth.

One of the earliest of such accusations was directed at Diamondeye. Some people initially questioned the validity of this accusation, especially considering the fact that the accusation was made up entirely of rhetoric and no actual information or evidence, but it was popular nevertheless. As a matter of fact, it was only in the middle of the day when Diamondeye gave a defense of himself that the votes started shifting elsewhere. Soon, Renata appeared to be in very hot water. As a matter of fact, the votes were even tied at one point.

"All right..." Chief of Police Lemur muttered to himself, looking alternatively at his watch and the setting sun. "Voting will close in five seconds... four... three..."

"WAIT!" shouted one villager, and then another right after him. "I don't like my vote! Move me into the 'abstain' column!" The other villager shouted his like-minded change just as time expired. Renata breathed a huge sigh of relief. Diamondeye groaned.

"Okay, Diamondeye," Lemur said, "Step right up to my new execution platform. It's still somewhat under construction to be able to handle more... elaborate... methods of death, so right now it's just a platform. But it'll still suffice." He paused, leafing through his binder. "Ah, yes, before I'm to execute you, it's customary that the condemned is allowed a set of last words. So, uh, any last words?"

"Not really," Diamondeye said, the gravity of the entire situation still not fully clear to him. "Uh, sorry, I guess, and good luck catching the two mafiosi since you screwed up with me."

The entire (suitably large) crowd gathered in, as if they have been conditioned to expect an elaborate and cool execution. However, they were to be denied, as Lemur simply took out a pistol and unceremoniously blasted Diamondeye in the head.

"What?" said Lemur as the crowd started to mutter with disapproval. "I'm still new to this Chief of Police stuff! Give me some time to get on my feet and cook up some really creative executions! They'll be awesome, I promise! But... uh... let's hope we never have to use them and that you were on-target with your choice today, and all that jazz. Good night, folks!"

Day 1 tally:

Diamondeye: 6 (khaan, Beefy, ATPG, TinCow, Renata, Kage) :skull:
Renata: 5 (Diamondeye, Joooray, Winston, atheotes, Sasaki)
Yaseikhaan: 3 (Secura, AVSM, Split)
Psychonaut: 1 (Centurion)
Centurion1: 1 (Beskar)
White_eyes:D: 1 (Psychonaut)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Methos)
Csargo: 1 (pevergreen)
Beefy187: 1 (woad&fangs)
atheotes: 1 (Csargo)
TinCow: 1 (Thermal)
Beskar: 1 (Double A)
A Very Super Market: 1 (Subotan)

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Still alive: (31)
Yaseikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Csargo
johnhughthom
Askthepizzaguy
Beefy187
Methos
White_eyes:D
Sigurd
Kagemusha
Subotan
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Joooray
pevergreen
Renata
atheotes
shlin28
Winston Hughes
Double A
Centurion1
Chaotix
Thermal Mercury
Cultured Drizzt fan
Ibn-Khaldun
woad&fangs
Psychonaut
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow
Reenk Roink

Killed:
Crazed Rabbit
Andres

Executed:
Diamondeye

Abstained: 5 (Chaotix, Ibn-Khaldun, Reenk, shlin, White_eyes)
Didn't vote: 3 (johnhughthom, Sigurd, Captain Blackadder)

Congratulations on surviving your first full phase. It is now Night 2! Orders in 24 hours, please.

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Originally Posted by Methos

I realize this is going to look suspicious, but I'm heading out for work soon, so will more then likely miss the update.

Unvote: Renata

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Originally Posted by Methos

Good point. Vote: Sasaki

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DiamondEye:6
Renata: 5

Scumbuddies with Renata.

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Originally Posted by atheotes

Actually, that is a pretty good argument ...mainly because in a game like this where there are no power roles or night actions and people can continue to participate in discussions, the kill choices could be random and it would not make a difference.
unvote:Diamondeye; vote:Renata

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There's a possibility atheotes just saved his partner-in-crime Renata from death... abstaining instead of revoting looks a bit more innocent, does it not? And he could just vote for DE if someone voted for Renata.

Oh, hello paranoia, I didn't notice you creeping up on me like that.

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Originally Posted by Double A

There's a possibility atheotes just saved his partner-in-crime Renata from death... abstaining instead of revoting looks a bit more innocent, does it not? And he could just vote for DE if someone voted for Renata.

Oh, hello paranoia, I didn't notice you creeping up on me like that.

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atheotes voted renata :inquisitive:

Well my theory just went down the drain...

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Originally Posted by Double A

There's a possibility atheotes just saved his partner-in-crime Renata from death... abstaining instead of revoting looks a bit more innocent, does it not? And he could just vote for DE if someone voted for Renata.

Oh, hello paranoia, I didn't notice you creeping up on me like that.

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:laugh4: you should rest your eyes...perhaps get some sleep

Im sorry but id rathe ta scumm buddy of renata form the simple rason i llike feamales miore.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

DiamondEye:6
Renata: 5

Scumbuddies with Renata.

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You're just upset because I accused you. :smartass:

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Originally Posted by Methos

You're just upset because I accused you. :smartass:

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You didn't accuse me.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Congratulations on surviving your first full phase.

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Not funny :mean:

He voted you; does that count?

Yeah I think I'm going to stick around, that is allowed, right?

Also, too bad about the wasted lynch. I'm thinking Yaseikhaan has something to explain. Renata, too. And Beefy.

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Originally Posted by General Handkerchief

As per tradition, the game will start with a night phase. Unfortunately, this means two people will die before they even get the chance to cast one vote. Sorry, but it works better for the story that way, and unlike in other games, you can still heavily contribute to the town's effort by careful analysis of the thread.

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I would hazard a guess that you're still allowed to help the town ascertain who the scum are if you're dead... you're just not permitted to vote. :3

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Yeah I think I'm going to stick around, that is allowed, right?

Also, too bad about the wasted lynch. I'm thinking Yaseikhaan has something to explain. Renata, too. And Beefy.

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Did I miss something, or were you not confirmed as town?

Also, you missed Methos.

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Originally Posted by Secura

I would hazard a guess that you're still allowed to help the town ascertain who the scum are if you're dead... you're just not permitted to vote. :3

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Correct, you're more than encouraged to contribute after death. :yes:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Correct, you're more than encouraged to contribute after death. :yes:

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Problem is, everyone will dislike you for doing a Kagemusha, even if you was a townie.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

Problem is, everyone will dislike you for doing a Kagemusha, even if you was a townie.

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Well, it's more encouraged in this game because being dead lifts any pressure of being lynched off you and gives you a different perspective of the game; without any power roles, the town needs all the help it can get anyway. :3

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Originally Posted by Beskar

Problem is, everyone will dislike you for doing a Kagemusha, even if you was a townie.

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Everyone will not dislike you for contributing your thoughts after death. As a matter of fact, it's quite possibly the single greatest reason that keeps the game lively in the endgame.

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Originally Posted by Renata

Also, you missed Methos.

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Interesting, since we discussed this via IM and I explained why I was withdrawing my vote against you. Are you saying that I was wrong to withdraw it?

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Originally Posted by Renata

Did I miss something, or were you not confirmed as town?

Also, you missed Methos.

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Originally Posted by Methos

Interesting, since we discussed this via IM and I explained why I was withdrawing my vote against you. Are you saying that I was wrong to withdraw it?

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Allow me to point out that even if GH missed the reveal - or has decided not to do reveals - the simple amount of kills will give away whether we've caught a mafia.

Also allow me to point out to those oblivious enough to not notice the first time; Renata is way too hyped up and playing unnatural compared to her usual style. I'm suspicious of her.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Allow me to point out that even if GH missed the reveal - or has decided not to do reveals - the simple amount of kills will give away whether we've caught a mafia.

Also allow me to point out to those oblivious enough to not notice the first time; Renata is way too hyped up and playing unnatural compared to her usual style. I'm suspicious of her.

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Each mafioso gets one kill per night, unless one of them is lynched in which case the remaining mafioso gets two kills per night. This means two townies will die every night, no matter what (unless all mafiosi are lynched, meaning that the game is over and thus there will be no more kills ).

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Not so much. Although you not seeming to realize that is a plus mark for you, maybe.

Someone should ask Methos why he unvoted me.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

Allow me to point out that even if GH missed the reveal - or has decided not to do reveals - the simple amount of kills will give away whether we've caught a mafia.

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I do not reveal after death, and there will be two kills every night regardless of whether there are two mafiosi alive or merely one. Sorry. :laugh4:

-edit- Beaten to the punch.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Everyone will not dislike you for contributing your thoughts after death. As a matter of fact, it's quite possibly the single greatest reason that keeps the game lively in the endgame.

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Yes, and just to clarify- it is always a better idea to listen to the dead players. Especially at the end of the game. Dead players are definitely the ones to listen to. Except for Kage. (unrelated to shadow fort, btw)

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Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan

Yes, and just to clarify- it is always a better idea to listen to the dead players. Especially at the end of the game. Dead players are definitely the ones to listen to. Except for Kage. (unrelated to shadow fort, btw)

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A small point: it's important to different between dead players who were killed at night and those who were lynched during the day. In this game, anyone who dies at night is a guaranteed townie, and they can be trusted to be working for a town victory. Lynched dead are probably townies as well, but it's possible that one (and only one) of them could be a mafioso, particularly the longer the game goes on. So, lynchees still need to have their advice weighted with that in mind.

So, we shouldn't lynch anyone? That way we are sure all dead people are townies? :beam:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

I disagree.

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Funny you should use random org as the example, given that it isn't completely random (such as when it gives me 4 8's in a row on the card generator... :juggle2: ) .

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Funny you should use random org as the example, given that it isn't completely random (such as when it gives me 4 8's in a row on the card generator... :juggle2: ) .

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That kinda proves that it is random...

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Originally Posted by Subotan

That kinda proves that it is random...

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By repeatedly giving the same card over and over again? :thinking:

No matter how often you get a card the odds of it coming up again next time are exactly the same.

I think the odds of getting 4 8's in a row from a card deck would be 3.50127797 × 10-5*, if I had a calculator I could check the math. But crazier things have happened. I got 10 heads in a row flipping a coin and seven 6's in a row rolling a die.

*times 13 if you want odds of getting 4 in a row of no particular card